A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Dutchessy on September 21, 2012, 08:10:33 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01mqp1r/Soul_Music_Series_14_Brothers_in_Arms/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01mqp1r/Soul_Music_Series_14_Brothers_in_Arms/)
Radio docu about Brothers in arms!
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John Illsley with interesting stuff at 8 and 16 minutes!
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Including a part of this cover. I didn't know this cover (thanks to my mobile app Shazam now i know)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrJM8AKnCtQ
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Thanks Dutchessy! Sounds interesting!
But also thanks for this strong DIALECT - from all Brits, couldn't they have chosen someone I might have been able to understand at least ONE single sentence in a row...
But I realized I didn't listen to the album version of Brothers In Arms for ...years... gave me literally goosebumps, so unexpected. Great tune.
So what was this guy talking about all the time?
LE
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Thanks Dutchessy! Sounds interesting!
But also thanks for this strong DIALECT - from all Brits, couldn't they have chosen someone I might have been able to understand at least ONE single sentence in a row...
But I realized I didn't listen to the album version of Brothers In Arms for ...years... gave me literally goosebumps, so unexpected. Great tune.
So what was this guy talking about all the time?
LE
Don't know exactly, about the meaning and impressions of BIA, about war and funerals, but i love the parts with John! While he's demonstrating the bass playing in BIA. And the piano part is awesome too!
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"My name is John Illsley, and Mark and I formed Dire Straits in 1976..."
You see, David??
1976, huh??
LE
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OMG ;D :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gerr99h0nS8
Also Walk of Life by the same finnish vocal group (not in the docu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Vvp5HS90k&feature=relmfu
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Thanks Dutchessy! Funnily enough, my brother rang me yesterday for a chat and asked me if I had heard the programme on BBC Radio 4 about BIA. Of course I hadn't, but now thanks to you I have heard it.
LE - The person with the very strong accent was from Northern Ireland and I'm afraid that even I had difficulty in understanding him! I did understand parts, though, and he was talking about an estrangement between he and his brother, who he hadn't spoken to for many years and his hope that they would be friends before one of them died. Also there was an army chaplain talking about using the song at funerals, etc.
It has made me listen to the song again right away! :)
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Thank you, Val!
I love the part where this piano man exactly explains to us why this song is soo genious! What he says about the harmony thing is so true.
That deep a capella voice is not fitting (if you ask me) - but very interesting how many different people are inspired by this.
LE
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Thank you, Val!
I love the part where this piano man exactly explains to us why this song is soo genious! What he says about the harmony thing is so true.
That deep a capella voice is not fitting (if you ask me) - but very interesting how many different people are inspired by this.
LE
Yes, there is also a very great (IMO) cover by Metallica (also not in the docu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsKREdCoezg
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Don't miss Gregorian's cover on Brothers in Arms.
Really my all-time favorite MK-cover ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j5vib8obek
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Talking about goosebumps...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mXOW61J97A
;)
LE
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"My name is John Illsley, and Mark and I formed Dire Straits in 1976..."
You see, David??
1976, huh??
LE
I'm so glad. Very good year. ;D
There was a guy in my class at uni from Belfast and I never understood him until 2nd year so don't worry LE! I remember he stayed in this amazing flat in Hanover Street, Edinburgh with remote control operated curtains and lights! Comedian Frank Skinner rented it during the festival apparently. You've got me reminiscing now... ::)
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But I realized I didn't listen to the album version of Brothers In Arms for ...years... gave me literally goosebumps, so unexpected. Great tune.
Yes I have always prefered the studio version. I find Mark's playing more subtle, and it fits more the song IHMO
Sometimes, live, he's playing a little bit "too much"
however, if I had to choose live versions, I'd go for Mandela, Toronto 2001 (TRD bonus disc), Basel 2007 (AVO sessions), but that's all
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"My name is John Illsley, and Mark and I formed Dire Straits in 1976..."
You see, David??
1976, huh??
LE
Maybe he refers to the first gig they did together. If memory serves, John replaced the bass player in a Cafe racers gig, right ?
So in his memory, he met Mark in 1976, and they started to play together, and thinking of forming a band...
So, at least, we can be grateful to David to have made John meeting Mark (or vice versa) possible :D
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I don't know if this has been posted before or not; I don't know whether it can be heard in all countries or not; and I don't know when it will be removed from the BBC website. Meanwhile, here's the programme in question:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01mqp1r
I can only say that it's playing for me as I type this, though I can't hear to the end as I have to get up early in the morning and it's late here.
MODIFICATION: It's available for one year. Here's the "blurb" that goes with the broadcast:
Brothers in Arms
Soul Music, Series 14 Episode 4 of 5
Availability:over a year left to listen
Duration: 30 minutes
First broadcast:Tuesday 18 September 2012An exploration into the enduring appeal of the Dire Straits classic, Brothers in Arms.
Although thought to have been written by Mark Knoffler in response to the Falklands war in the mid 80's, it's a piece that people now associate with many other conflicts ; military, personal and social.
Dire Straits bass player, John Illsley explains why it remains such a special piece for the band, while Marines chaplain, Nigel Beardsley, recalls the important part it's played in the lives of so many soldiers in Iran and Afghanistan and why it's now often heard at military funerals.
The Irish playwright, Sam Millar describes why he based a very personal play around the song and Snuffy Walden, music director of the hit American TV show, The West Wing, talks about how the series writer, Aaron Sorkin insisted on it being used in its entirety during a crucial episode.
Prof Alan Moore of Surrey University explains how it's Knopfler's brilliant use of harmony that gives the song the sense of yearning that has made it into one of the most enduring pop songs of the last century.
Producer: Lucy Lunt.