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Title: HAPPY BIRTHDAY VGONIS !!!!
Post by: Mona Dee on March 12, 2013, 07:04:52 AM
 :D :D :D :D :D HAPPY BIRTHDAY  :D :D :D :D :D

I hope you will have a nice day and the chance to do some marvellous photos again !!! Enjoy this day !!!

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Post by: rudiger on March 12, 2013, 07:43:55 AM
Happy Birthday!  :wave
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Post by: vgonis on March 12, 2013, 08:37:56 AM
Thank you! Very sweet of you to remember. You have added greatly to the happiness!
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Post by: ingridswing on March 12, 2013, 11:07:35 AM
Happy birthday, have a good one on it  :)
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Post by: vgonis on March 12, 2013, 11:24:09 AM
Thank you Ingrid!
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Post by: dmg on March 12, 2013, 11:59:45 AM
Happy birthday vgonis!  I had a Greek style yoghurt this morning in your honour! ;D

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Post by: vgonis on March 12, 2013, 01:02:41 PM
Thank you! You made me break a smile! Of course after taking a closer look I saw that it is a Greek style yogurt made by Mullen in Shropshire, UK.Another loss for Greek exports...  ;D   But it is actually a Grerman (Bavarian) company, so kind of a loss for UK as well.  ;)  I guess these are the results of globalization. A greek style yogurt, by a German company produced in UK.  :lol or maybe   :disbelief  or even better   :hmm  .  Cheers mate! When you come over to Greece I will introduce you to a Turkish yogurt!

By the way, is it any good? And is it a yogurt, or a yogurt based dessert?
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Post by: dmg on March 12, 2013, 01:13:12 PM
Thank you! You made me break a smile! Of course after taking a closer look I saw that it is a Greek style yogurt made by Mullen in Shropshire, UK.Another loss for Greek exports...  ;D   But it is actually a Grerman (Bavarian) company, so kind of a loss for UK as well.  ;)  I guess these are the results of globalization. A greek style yogurt, by a German company produced in UK.  :lol or maybe   :disbelief  or even better   :hmm  .  Cheers mate! When you come over to Greece I will introduce you to a Turkish yogurt!

By the way, is it any good? And is it a yogurt, or a yogurt based dessert?

It's just a yoghurt that's a little thicker than their normal M
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Post by: Mona Dee on March 12, 2013, 02:57:01 PM
I love greek yoghurt , too. I think there is more cream in it...and it is with honey and sometimes with nuts...I mean the greek yoghurt, that is made in Germany...
This is my first choice:
http://www.elinas.eu/
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Post by: dmg on March 12, 2013, 03:18:58 PM
I love greek yoghurt , too. I think there is more cream in it...and it is with honey and sometimes with nuts...I mean the greek yoghurt, that is made in Germany...
This is my first choice:
http://www.elinas.eu/

Never seen that brand over here.  I have plenty honey on my bite-sized Shredded Wheat anyway!
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Post by: nababo on March 12, 2013, 03:31:33 PM
Congratulations, vgonis.  :clap  I wish peace and happiness to you and your family!
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Post by: vgonis on March 12, 2013, 03:50:10 PM
I love greek yoghurt , too. I think there is more cream in it...and it is with honey and sometimes with nuts...I mean the greek yoghurt, that is made in Germany...
This is my first choice:
http://www.elinas.eu/
It is somehow funny! Elinas is the Greek sounding word for Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Greece)
It is like taking a piece of machinery and calling it  "German"  ;)

Congratulations, vgonis.  :clap  I wish peace and happiness to you and your family!
Thank you nababo!  No need for congratulations, really. Time goes by anyway, for everybody, either sitting or running.  ;) On the other hand congratulations are in order for you and the wonderful news.  :wave   New time to the world.   The actual birthday is the only one that counts.  :)
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Post by: Lis on March 12, 2013, 04:41:26 PM
Happy Birthday, vgonis!!!  Have a wonderful day!!!  :)
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Post by: vgonis on March 12, 2013, 05:29:17 PM
Thanks Lis! So far so good! Night falls here in Athens!
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Post by: nababo on March 12, 2013, 05:44:16 PM
Thank you nababo!  No need for congratulations, really. Time goes by anyway, for everybody, either sitting or running.  ;) On the other hand congratulations are in order for you and the wonderful news.  :wave   New time to the world.   The actual birthday is the only one that counts.  :)

Thanks again for the kind words!
And now let me ask you something completely different: how is it to you, people from Ellada, being known by everyone else as greeks and not hellenes? Is there some sort of disapointment in this?
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Post by: JF on March 12, 2013, 05:58:40 PM
I like greek yogourht with maple sirup
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Post by: Justme on March 12, 2013, 06:14:56 PM
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Post by: Mona Dee on March 12, 2013, 06:32:18 PM


Thanks again for the kind words!
And now let me ask you something completely different: how is it to you, people from Ellada, being known by everyone else as greeks and not hellenes? Is there some sort of disapointment in this?
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Interesting question ! I think most of the people know the correct name "Hellas" or  ?????? (I try to write Elada in greek letters, but it didn`t work here) ...that is the reason, that "my" yoghurt is called "Elinas" ;  people think of Greece and know, what kind of yoghurt it is.
You all call my country Germany, although my home is "Deutschland". For me that is only a matter of language.

Or does it mean more , vgonis ?
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Post by: Justme on March 12, 2013, 06:35:23 PM
Btw, a company that has been mentioned in this thread is well known to take the taxpayer's money (then called subsidies) to move the production frequently when interest margins become bigger in other countries. Some say (sounding like J. Clarkson here) that even the cows contributing milk for their products are are being fed with genetically engineered forage. In that case there is no obligation to declare trails of genetically engineered content. Mmh, you gotta love that laws made by the industry....

Sorry for bringing this up in your birthday thread, VGonis. But I couldn't resist....

 ;D
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Post by: nababo on March 12, 2013, 06:58:38 PM
You all call my country Germany, although my home is "Deutschland". For me that is only a matter of language.

Here in Brazil, we call your country "Alemanha". If we literally translated Deutschland into Portuguese, it would end up as something like "Teutol
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Post by: Mona Dee on March 12, 2013, 07:01:12 PM
Btw, a company that has been mentioned in this thread is well known to take the taxpayer's money (then called subsidies) to move the production frequently when interest margins become bigger in other countries. Some say (sounding like J. Clarkson here) that even the cows contributing milk for their products are are being fed with genetically engineered forage. In that case there is no obligation to declare trails of genetically engineered content. Mmh, you gotta love that laws made by the industry....

Sorry for bringing this up in your birthday thread, VGonis. But I couldn't resist....

 ;D

Yes, you are right, Justme. And I
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Post by: Mona Dee on March 12, 2013, 07:03:09 PM
You all call my country Germany, although my home is "Deutschland". For me that is only a matter of language.

Here in Brazil, we call your country "Alemanha". If we literally translated Deutschland into Portuguese, it would end up as something like "Teutol
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Post by: nababo on March 12, 2013, 07:09:57 PM
You all call my country Germany, although my home is "Deutschland". For me that is only a matter of language.

Here in Brazil, we call your country "Alemanha". If we literally translated Deutschland into Portuguese, it would end up as something like "Teutol
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Post by: Mona Dee on March 12, 2013, 07:22:17 PM
There was a tribe in early middleages called the "Alemannen" ..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alemanni

And there was a tribe called "Teutonen"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teutons

And  the "Germanen", means all the tribes that spoke the language German.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples
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Post by: Mona Dee on March 12, 2013, 07:29:44 PM
And now I know, where the word "Deutsch" is coming from. Honestly : I had to search it at Wikipedia, shame on me  :disbelief

The German term Deutschland (originally diutisciu land, "the German lands") is derived from deutsch, descended from Old High German diutisc "popular" (i.e. belonging to the diot or diota "people"), originally used to distinguish the language of the common people from Latin and its Romance descendants. This in turn descends from Proto-Germanic *
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Post by: dmg on March 12, 2013, 07:31:12 PM
You all call my country Germany, although my home is "Deutschland". For me that is only a matter of language.

Here in Brazil, we call your country "Alemanha". If we literally translated Deutschland into Portuguese, it would end up as something like "Teutol
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Post by: nababo on March 12, 2013, 08:27:55 PM
You all call my country Germany, although my home is "Deutschland". For me that is only a matter of language.

Here in Brazil, we call your country "Alemanha". If we literally translated Deutschland into Portuguese, it would end up as something like "Teutol
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Post by: Justme on March 12, 2013, 08:29:53 PM
Btw, a company that has been mentioned in this thread is well known to take the taxpayer's money (then called subsidies) to move the production frequently when interest margins become bigger in other countries. Some say (sounding like J. Clarkson here) that even the cows contributing milk for their products are are being fed with genetically engineered forage. In that case there is no obligation to declare trails of genetically engineered content. Mmh, you gotta love that laws made by the industry....

Sorry for bringing this up in your birthday thread, VGonis. But I couldn't resist....

 ;D

Yes, you are right, Justme. And I
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Post by: vgonis on March 12, 2013, 08:43:36 PM
Sorry for going away! Had to blow some candles!
Glad I have done so. Very interesting information about genetically mutated products and the various names of Germany.
So Romans and Latin actually play a vital part in at least one of the names of Germany as well!!!
So here is what I have written:

Nice of you to ask Nababo. There are several  ancient sources about the two names (actually there is a third but used very little nowRomi-i) , none of them better than the other, but the name/word Greek in few of these sources is related with a negative meaning. But since it has to do with sources written by the Romans, the ones that actually gave us this name, it is natural to have such a meaning. As I have mentioned all names have ancient origin (greek most probably from an old town at Viotia or a hellenic tribe) .
But it is a name, that for most people abroad has only the meaning of what they think  it describes. If they think people living here are bad, it doesn't matter how you call  us. Of course the etymology of a name has a special weight that is used by historians and some times the politicians. For instance, the Arabian and muslim world know Greece and Greeks as Younan and Yuns, a name coming from an othe ancient hellenic territory Ionia (placed in Asia Minor territory, where today is Turkey).  So in the case of Greece and Ellada, both names are justified, since in fact they have the same ancient origin.   
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Post by: vgonis on March 12, 2013, 08:59:03 PM

Time to put the children to bed. I might be back later.  If you have the time, step into my blogs for some reading about modern Greece:
http://greeceindirestraits.blogspot.gr/2013/03/a-reply-to-economist.html
Or if you don't have that much time here are some photos:
http://vassilisgonis.wordpress.com/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vassilis_d_gonis/

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Post by: GennT on March 12, 2013, 09:00:36 PM
Happy Birthday VGONIS and all the best! Have a good evening ;)
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Post by: Pottel on March 12, 2013, 09:34:55 PM
happy birthday mate!!!!
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Post by: vgonis on March 12, 2013, 09:56:45 PM
Thank you GennT and Pottel! Much appreciated!
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Post by: shangri la 1 on March 12, 2013, 11:00:19 PM
yes best wishes to one of AMIT's most active members - keep up the good work!!  :clap
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Post by: vgonis on March 13, 2013, 07:27:08 AM
Thank you SL1!
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Post by: nababo on March 13, 2013, 06:38:15 PM
There are several  ancient sources about the two names (actually there is a third but used very little nowRomi-i) , none of them better than the other, but the name/word Greek in few of these sources is related with a negative meaning. But since it has to do with sources written by the Romans, the ones that actually gave us this name, it is natural to have such a meaning. As I have mentioned all names have ancient origin (greek most probably from an old town at Viotia or a hellenic tribe) .
But it is a name, that for most people abroad has only the meaning of what they think  it describes. If they think people living here are bad, it doesn't matter how you call  us. Of course the etymology of a name has a special weight that is used by historians and some times the politicians. For instance, the Arabian and muslim world know Greece and Greeks as Younan and Yuns, a name coming from an othe ancient hellenic territory Ionia (placed in Asia Minor territory, where today is Turkey).  So in the case of Greece and Ellada, both names are justified, since in fact they have the same ancient origin.

Thanks, vgonis. For the record, I don't think you Hellenes are bad.  ;D
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Post by: vgonis on March 13, 2013, 09:35:45 PM
Thank you Nababo, for the kind words!