A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: dmg on April 06, 2013, 07:51:41 PM
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Not bad sound at all for that era and very interesting to say the least.
Supercharged version of Six Blade and SMU done the same way as the demo version! Very nice Waterline and Sultans (of course). Gallery and WWE sound like they are in their infancy though.
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this recording is a real gem, just listening to six blade now and too right, turbocharged and different to I have heard before...
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what can I say? I'm moved :clap
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If I was a member of Talking Heads, I wouldn't want to be going out after this! The audience were listening pretty intensely and gave the young lads a big applause.
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Great to hear this recording finally :clap
I got a 30 sec sample of this last year, also of the Amsterdam 1978Paradiso gig, and was hoping to get the full recording since then.
Unfortunately the samples I got had a much better sound quality, and the same is true for the Amsterdam gig :(
It seems both have been over-compressed (I am talking of dynamic compression, not file-size reduction) which causes a typical "headache sound". Not sure what this is about, maybe someone did not want to share it in full quality. :wave
Unfortunately undoing this compression is really hard, I might try with a so-called expander, but it is tricky :(
Ingo
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If I was a member of Talking Heads, I wouldn't want to be going out after this!
Reminds me of some little story I read somewhere (Oldfield book?):
One evening on that tour, the TH watched DS changing guitar strings before the gig, and wondered why they wasted their time with this. When DS inspected the TH instruments, they in fact all had some rusty old strings. After the tour TH had changed their mind and always had new strings since then
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after listening to this i also listened to that amsterdam recording again. both great performances.
this hans devente guy seems to be a very controversial figure. just google his name and thy will find..
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I got the samples from someone else than Hand DeVente...
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that was not why i wrote that ingo. still :-)
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I had a good laugh - "controversial" is an understatement if you ask me... Crazy!
LE
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If I was a member of Talking Heads, I wouldn't want to be going out after this!
Reminds me of some little story I read somewhere (Oldfield book?):
One evening on that tour, the TH watched DS changing guitar strings before the gig, and wondered why they wasted their time with this. When DS inspected the TH instruments, they in fact all had some rusty old strings. After the tour TH had changed their mind and always had new strings since then
yes, it is in the Oldfield book
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I wonder which more tapes have this Hans de Vente ("The Madtaper as stated in Dimeadozen")
Its strange that we had the TH shows with two songs with MK and JI playing with them and other show just the DS opening show, looks like he only recorded the TH one show and DS the other?
Or maybe that the tapes are not leaked yet or wont be?
Ingo, I hope you can work out that contact you have for a better sounding source.
Any of this old recordings are very welcome, I dream that one day we could catch one of the very early DS shows when they got to play some David songs (Sacred loving had to be played live, they recorded it for the demos, so...)
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Pottel if we are on the same page, this guy sounds like a hurt ex lover. :P
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Looks like this Hank was a TAlking Heads friend...
Is there a list of all this tapes? I read that they are numbered
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Not bad sound at all for that era and very interesting to say the least.
Supercharged version of Six Blade and SMU done the same way as the demo version! Very nice Waterline and Sultans (of course). Gallery and WWE sound like they are in their infancy though.
when I read this I expected SMU played same as the demo version, but no, it is played like on the album (the fast chicken riff), altough it has the additional verse. It sounds like played on the thinline telecaster (like on the album). The demo version sounds more the LP standard, with a phaser or so. It's slower, and doesn't have that chicken pickin' country flavour
Six blade knife is played in the demo way, faster than the album version.
Water of love is sung a little bit in the same way as the demo version (not exactly the same, but a little bit)
agree about wild west end : I've never heard it played this way before. mark is playing the rhythm part like on the album version (on the national). I wonder if he plays it on the telecaster in open tuning, or on the strat in standard tuning ?
In oldfield's book, there's some lines about the firts DS gig during summer 77, with Mark on the national on WWE, that means without solo parts.
so maybe, it was played this way until january 78 (it's not on the leeds recording), but after the album release, it was played live with david on rhythm (on telecaster) and mark on lead on srat.
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I recall a picture of Dire Straits playing with the Talking Heads in that tour, its on two books released in Spain, but in both books the picture is folded between two pages...
Does any of you have that picture in his big size without being folded?
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I recall a picture of Dire Straits playing with the Talking Heads in that tour, its on two books released in Spain, but in both books the picture is folded between two pages...
Does any of you have that picture in his big size without being folded?
is this pic you're talking about (scroll down in the article) :
http://www.mk-guitar.com/2009/03/07/mark-knopflers-music-man-hd-130-212-guitar-amp/ (http://www.mk-guitar.com/2009/03/07/mark-knopflers-music-man-hd-130-212-guitar-amp/)
according to Ingo, this pic is from summer 79, talking heads "guest" on DS gig, not from the january 78 tour with DS as opening act for Talking heads
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Yes, but the picture is incomplete, there are people at right (David and other guitar player) and at left (John and two other bassists) that are not in this pic, and you can see very clearly the folder line.
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I recall a picture of Dire Straits playing with the Talking Heads in that tour, its on two books released in Spain, but in both books the picture is folded between two pages...
Does any of you have that picture in his big size without being folded?
is this pic you're talking about (scroll down in the article) :
http://www.mk-guitar.com/2009/03/07/mark-knopflers-music-man-hd-130-212-guitar-amp/ (http://www.mk-guitar.com/2009/03/07/mark-knopflers-music-man-hd-130-212-guitar-amp/)
according to Ingo, this pic is from summer 79, talking heads "guest" on DS gig, not from the january 78 tour with DS as opening act for Talking heads
Right, that's definitely from summer 1979, both bands played at the British Rock Meeting festivals in Germany.
They also played together on the Rock Pop TV festival in December 1980: http://www.mk-guitar.com/2011/03/29/the-dire-straits-rock-pop-in-concert-tv-show-in-dortmund-1980/
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Six blade knife is played in the demo way, faster than the album version.
agree about wild west end : I've never heard it played this way before. mark is playing the rhythm part like on the album version (on the national). I wonder if he plays it on the telecaster in open tuning, or on the strat in standard tuning ?
In oldfield's book, there's some lines about the firts DS gig during summer 77, with Mark on the national on WWE, that means without solo parts.
so maybe, it was played this way until january 78 (it's not on the leeds recording), but after the album release, it was played live with david on rhythm (on telecaster) and mark on lead on srat.
And just like on the demo, the "I'd like to be free of it now" bridge in Six Blade knife appears twice (only once on the album version).
Wild West End was also the biggest surprise for me, that Mark played the rhythm part. Surprising because the demo version recorded a few weeks before was with lead guitar.
I am sure Mark played it in open tuning here, too, probably on the black Tele.