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Title: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: shangri la 1 on May 12, 2013, 02:27:11 AM
PRIVATEERING TOUR 2013 [C 13]
(http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3012.0;attach=885;image)
Location:- http://www.sportpaleis.be/nl   Mark Knopfler:  http://www.sportpaleis.be/nl/kalender/2012-2013/mark_knopfler
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Previous Concert:- http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php/topic,3037.0.html
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31songs now played on this tour
ANTWERP  Home town of AMIT CHAIRMAN POTTEL    -   --         ANTWERP  Home town of AMIT CHAIRMAN POTTEL    -   --           
                         
SET LIST ANTWERP
Different from last Concert in RED
01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
04. Father and son
05. Hill farmers Blues
06. I dug up a diamond
07. I used to could
08. Romeo and Juliet
09. Sultans of swing
10. Gator blood
11. Haul away
12. Postcards from Paraguay
13. Marbletown
14. Telegraph Road
15. So far away
16. Piper to the end

Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: man on a track on May 12, 2013, 08:17:23 AM
Today DotdS...!?  :think
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Love Expresso on May 12, 2013, 09:56:21 AM
Why is the set list white since a few days? And why is I Dug Up A Diamond not red?

LE
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: cannibals on May 12, 2013, 02:18:47 PM
Going to Antwerp with my dad. I am hoping for 5.15 AM-Kingdom-Two Crows- and also Redbut Tree would be nice.
Also all the DS classics are great! Hope he is not going to skip the sultans like he did before............  :wave
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: dmg on May 12, 2013, 02:24:37 PM
Why is the set list white since a few days? And why is I Dug Up A Diamond not red?

LE

I think it's perhaps because some people were getting it confused with that days set. 

Diamond isn't in red maybe because it was yesterdays set?
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Pottel on May 12, 2013, 03:18:52 PM
heading to the Sportpaleis. should be there biggest show to date on this tour
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Dutchessy on May 12, 2013, 03:33:24 PM
heading to the Sportpaleis. should be there biggest show to date on this tour

ENJOY! to all who are going tonight
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: cannibals on May 12, 2013, 04:31:04 PM
heading to the Sportpaleis. should be there biggest show to date on this tour


Almost sold out. Only tickets left with side view, next to the stage..  :wave
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Marikablue on May 12, 2013, 07:50:03 PM
Redbud Tree tonight ?  8)
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: dmg on May 12, 2013, 07:58:36 PM
Redbud Tree tonight ?  8)

Didn't really work last time did it and they seemed to give up on it pretty quickly.  I wonder if they've found a different arrangement for it? :think
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: herlock on May 12, 2013, 08:04:37 PM
Redbud Tree tonight ?  8)

Didn't really work last time did it and they seemed to give up on it pretty quickly.  I wonder if they've found a different arrangement for it? :think
Very nice tune though, but too short, need to be expanded the same way Marbletown was :D
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: dmg on May 12, 2013, 08:05:54 PM
Redbud Tree tonight ?  8)

Didn't really work last time did it and they seemed to give up on it pretty quickly.  I wonder if they've found a different arrangement for it? :think
Very nice tune though, but too short, need to be expanded the same way Marbletown was :D
LOL :lol
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Hophead on May 12, 2013, 08:07:15 PM
Redbud Tree tonight ?  8)

Didn't really work last time did it and they seemed to give up on it pretty quickly.  I wonder if they've found a different arrangement for it? :think
Hope it works..and I also hope they try to keep "I dug up a diamond" in the sets..what a gem!
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: herlock on May 12, 2013, 08:11:10 PM
Redbud Tree tonight ?  8)

Didn't really work last time did it and they seemed to give up on it pretty quickly.  I wonder if they've found a different arrangement for it? :think
Very nice tune though, but too short, need to be expanded the same way Marbletown was :D
LOL :lol
I'm serious !
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Jules on May 12, 2013, 08:12:35 PM
Picture sent bu Pottel
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Love Expresso on May 12, 2013, 08:15:02 PM
I thought the same - they had some little drumming in it in 2012 - when the song seems to be over, it should start again with some more rhythmic drumming and some pedal steel soloing, at least 2 minutes more... :-)  I don't think we will hear it again..

LE
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Marikablue on May 12, 2013, 08:17:45 PM
I thought the same - they had some little drumming in it in 2012 - when the song seems to be over, it should start again with some more rhythmic drumming and some pedal steel soloing, at least 2 minutes more... :-)  I don't think we will hear it again..

LE
Let's see........ ;)
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Jules on May 12, 2013, 08:50:00 PM
Sent by Pottel

What it is
Corned beef city
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: ds1984 on May 12, 2013, 08:51:21 PM
What it is Corned beef city ?  ;D
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Jules on May 12, 2013, 08:57:49 PM
Also by Pottel
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: holaknopfler on May 12, 2013, 08:58:07 PM
01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Marikablue on May 12, 2013, 09:00:05 PM
01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
WOW, that can't be true  :o :o
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Jules on May 12, 2013, 09:03:24 PM
Message from the future...  ;D

01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
04. Father and Son
05. Hill farmer blues
06.
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Nito on May 12, 2013, 09:16:34 PM
I bet for:

01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
04. Father and son
05. Hill farmers
06. Kingdom of gold
07. I used to could
08. Romeo and Juliet
09. Sultans of swing
10. Gator blood
11. Haul away
12. Postcards
13. Marbletown
14. Speedway
15. Telegraph
16. So Far Away
17. Piper to the end

Good night :wave
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: crimmer on May 12, 2013, 09:45:00 PM
anymore updates??
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: dmg on May 12, 2013, 09:46:52 PM
Don't tell me they're off already?  Plane to catch? ;D
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: holaknopfler on May 12, 2013, 09:49:26 PM
Didn't receive anything more from Pottel
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Love Expresso on May 12, 2013, 09:50:07 PM
low battery as usual...  ::)

LE
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Jules on May 12, 2013, 09:50:20 PM
Me neither
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: holaknopfler on May 12, 2013, 09:51:31 PM
Pottel should get that Duracell thing, which you can plug in and add 5 hours extra battery time :thumbsup
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Marikablue on May 12, 2013, 09:52:15 PM
Don't tell me they're off already?  Plane to catch? ;D
Nice set indeed............but not among the longest so far  :think
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: herlock on May 12, 2013, 09:55:50 PM
Pottel should get that Duracell thing, which you can plug in and add 5 hours extra battery time :thumbsup
Maybe he was the victim of the first infamous "finger of death" of the tour ? :D
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: ds1984 on May 12, 2013, 09:57:17 PM
STP! And then they suddenly all fell asleep and nobody woke up yet...
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Jules on May 12, 2013, 09:58:25 PM
Pottel should get that Duracell thing, which you can plug in and add 5 hours extra battery time :thumbsup

Late for that

 ;D

Probabley when it ends we will get a full report
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: holaknopfler on May 12, 2013, 09:59:02 PM
Pottel should get that Duracell thing, which you can plug in and add 5 hours extra battery time :thumbsup
Maybe he was the victim of the first infamous "finger of death" of the tour ? :D
Hahaha! ;D
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: holaknopfler on May 12, 2013, 10:05:57 PM
Jbaent will do the updating from now on! Pottel is back! ;D
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Jules on May 12, 2013, 10:07:27 PM
Jbaent will do the updating from now on! Pottel is back! ;D

Not sure, he just posted me "Father + hillfarmer" now, and the show probably is close to the end  ;D
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: holaknopfler on May 12, 2013, 10:10:50 PM
Jbaent will do the updating from now on! Pottel is back! ;D

Not sure, he just posted me "Father + hillfarmer" now, and the show probably is close to the end  ;D
Quite excited now what the 6th song will be!
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: dmg on May 12, 2013, 10:11:51 PM
Maybe such a great show he is mesmerised! :think

He could get Crock's jacket to charge his phone! ;D
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Jules on May 12, 2013, 10:15:30 PM
Pottel says

"same as yesterday"

Now playing Telegraph, no speedway

So "I dug up a diamond" again
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: herlock on May 12, 2013, 10:17:18 PM
Pottel says

"same as yesterday"

Now playing Telegraph, no speedway

So "I dug up a diamond" again
Argh no SAN again :( a crime !!
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Marikablue on May 12, 2013, 10:19:17 PM
Pottel says

"same as yesterday"

Now playing Telegraph, no speedway

So "I dug up a diamond" again
Argh no SAN again :( a crime !!
Also a " must be there " for me  :disbelief
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Jules on May 12, 2013, 10:20:02 PM
So far away
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Dutchessy on May 12, 2013, 10:20:59 PM
No ytc instead of speedway?? Maybe an extra encore then?
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: dmg on May 12, 2013, 10:22:19 PM
Pottel says

"same as yesterday"

Now playing Telegraph, no speedway

So "I dug up a diamond" again
Argh no SAN again :( a crime !!

Indeed.  Probably the best song of the last "proper/full" tour or this imo.  This is either laziness or maybe Mark feels he just doesn't feel up to it tonight, like he doesn't feel up to Sultans some nights;  giving his wrist a rest (taking the support into account). :think
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Jules on May 12, 2013, 10:27:37 PM
Piper to the end
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Jules on May 12, 2013, 10:29:26 PM
01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
04. Father and son
05. Hill farmers Blues
06. I dug up a diamond
07. I used to could
08. Romeo and Juliet
09. Sultans of swing
10. Gator blood
11. Haul away
12. Postcards from Paraguay
13. Marbletown
14. Telegraph Road
15. So far away
16. Piper to the end
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Marikablue on May 12, 2013, 10:34:57 PM
01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
04. Father and son
05. Hill farmers Blues
06. I dug up a diamond
07. I used to could
08. Romeo and Juliet
09. Sultans of swing
10. Gator blood
11. Haul away
12. Postcards from Paraguay
13. Marbletown
14. Telegraph Road
15. So far away
16. Piper to the end
Hopefully not to many SAN lovers in Belgium  :(
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: dmg on May 12, 2013, 10:35:02 PM
I Dug Up A Diamond.  How ironic a title for a song if ever there was one! ::)
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Jarle on May 12, 2013, 10:41:17 PM
Nice setlist, but I do miss Seattle... A bit strange since both Guy and Richard particularly mentioned this song in there diaries as a favorite to everyone in the band the day after it was played. I really do believe it is a great live song...
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Love Expresso on May 12, 2013, 10:42:19 PM
I hope Pottel is not too disappointed tonight... after all he was looking very much forward to the show in his home town...

LE
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: herlock on May 12, 2013, 10:43:34 PM
I Dug Up A Diamond.  How ironic a title for a song if ever there was one! ::)
I'm afraid the set list will pretty much stabalize to this... As Mark tends to reduce the number of songs as the tour goes by... This would mean no SAN, YTC, KOG in France... :(
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Post by: dmg on May 12, 2013, 10:46:41 PM
I Dug Up A Diamond.  How ironic a title for a song if ever there was one! ::)
I'm afraid the set list will pretty much stabalize to this... As Mark tends to reduce the number of songs as the tour goes by... This would mean no SAN, YTC, KOG in France... :(

You know him well!  Let us hope the inspiration and energy in his playing doesn't vanish too like it usually does later in the tour as it did in 2010.
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: herlock on May 12, 2013, 11:03:00 PM
I Dug Up A Diamond.  How ironic a title for a song if ever there was one! ::)
I'm afraid the set list will pretty much stabalize to this... As Mark tends to reduce the number of songs as the tour goes by... This would mean no SAN, YTC, KOG in France... :(

You know him well!  Let us hope the inspiration and energy in his playing doesn't vanish too like it usually does later in the tour as it did in 2010.
Well 2010 was special as Mark was in pain.
Usually what happens is the following trade-off:
Beginning of tour -> higher on diversity, lower on perfection
End of tour -> almost no diversity, perfect execution
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Jules on May 12, 2013, 11:17:21 PM
Pottel enjoyed the show very much, he says was better than Bremen.
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: goon525 on May 12, 2013, 11:21:24 PM
Shame that 17th song has gone MIA. It was real extra value, but I suspect we won't see it again.
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Jules on May 12, 2013, 11:47:22 PM
First time that there are no new tracks compared to the previous concert.

And the only change was to play one song less.
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Post by: dannr1 on May 13, 2013, 12:14:16 AM
Yep, they might begin to settle for this set now and taking it back into mainland Europe after some stops in the UK with some more surprises (I hope)..
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Post by: cannibals on May 13, 2013, 12:18:52 AM
Just got back. The concerts was really  :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
I really liked Haul Away, much better live! Sultans was powerfull, also very good!!
Too bad for me he did not play my favorites from the new album, Kingdom-Crows and Red But Tree.
I was also not happy with no Speedway and only 16 songs. In 2010 they also cut one out because they had a plane to catch.
Thats all there is to complaine....  ;D
The band was great tonight. Also the crowd was fantastic. There are still tickets for Zwolle, i'm thinking of going to a second concerts this tour.
Really had a great time!!
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Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on May 13, 2013, 12:39:53 AM
Worst nightmare to miss SAN imho, most powerful song of the set.
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Pottel on May 13, 2013, 01:57:43 AM
3 words: better (mark and band )then Bremen.
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Pottel on May 13, 2013, 02:03:32 AM
Bremen was great, but Antwerp was better. I cannot repeat enough that mark is in a good mood. What I do not get though, is when they have an early flying time slot, why they start their show so late?
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Pottel on May 13, 2013, 02:04:47 AM
And I wonder what it is exactly that mcgoldrick is laughing about with Ian Thomas all the time. Funny thing to watch.
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Post by: Ar (aka Enlight) on May 13, 2013, 02:34:12 AM
And I wonder what it is exactly that mcgoldrick is laughing about with Ian Thomas all the time. Funny thing to watch.

You had a good look at them during the whole show, for me it took my attention especially during " postcards from Paraguay".

Here capture of that song from YouTube and their interaction of that song in your home town.

Glad you liked it Pottel

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CgTpTGs02Q



Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Pottel on May 13, 2013, 02:40:40 AM
Where did you sit amigo?
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: cannibals on May 13, 2013, 08:32:59 AM
Bremen was great, but Antwerp was better. I cannot repeat enough that mark is in a good mood. What I do not get though, is when they have an early flying time slot, why they start their show so late?

Was this again Pottel, the same as 2 years ago????
Than it is very strange, they came up on stage now at 20:40 and off at 22:30.
If they start at 20:30 they could play a full sett. Pretty strange if Antwerp again gets short set imo, don't you think?
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: poupystar on May 13, 2013, 10:10:07 AM
I DUG UP A DIAMOND (Antwerpen 2013.05.12) :
Fullscreen it's better ;-)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGSRpaPrEtY
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Jules on May 13, 2013, 10:40:22 AM
I like the "Diamond" and I was sure that it will come a time when the setlist will be more static, but the song that changes, that we can say its "Song number 6", I dont like it to change...

I explain myself. When the changing song was "Yon two crows / Kingdom of gold", it was fine, two new songs, both of them with his own great feeling live. If you dont presence one, you will listen the other. And if you attend two or more shows in a row, the better. But if that songs are not played because thats the one that changes, and you get Tupelo or Diamond... Well, that are rare songs but you are missing the greater ones of the tour. Is nice to listen to a raritie, but the price is quite high.

I will probably use the song 11, in this case "Haul away", that I love too, but its not so essential in the tour, as the changing one.

Its a difficult thing really, to please everyone, isnt it?
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: superval99 on May 13, 2013, 10:52:08 AM
I like both Diamond and Tupelo, but they are very similar to each other and if I had to choose between them, I would go for Tupelo - the solos are just a bit more special to me.   I hope I get to hear KOG and YTC somewhere along the way too!   :) 
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Post by: herlock on May 13, 2013, 10:55:31 AM
I like the "Diamond" and I was sure that it will come a time when the setlist will be more static, but the song that changes, that we can say its "Song number 6", I dont like it to change...

I explain myself. When the changing song was "Yon two crows / Kingdom of gold", it was fine, two new songs, both of them with his own great feeling live. If you dont presence one, you will listen the other. And if you attend two or more shows in a row, the better. But if that songs are not played because thats the one that changes, and you get Tupelo or Diamond... Well, that are rare songs but you are missing the greater ones of the tour. Is nice to listen to a raritie, but the price is quite high.

I will probably use the song 11, in this case "Haul away", that I love too, but its not so essential in the tour, as the changing one.

Its a difficult thing really, to please everyone, isnt it?
+1
Title: Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: ds1984 on May 13, 2013, 11:12:25 AM
"Diamond" is one of my all time fave and did have very few opportunities to hear it live (actually two times) so I would have been delighted if I was there.

With only 16 songs performed in less than 2 hours and such a catalogue to choose from you can't please everybody.

Especially if several songs are toward or over the 10 minutes long.

So another reason to think that current Marbletown is a waiste of time.

Early 2008 version was quite a fun shorter and strong version, then it evolved and it wa still fun, although the "new part", although highly entertaining, is something that is a very common heard on the folky scene. Now extended that long it had become to "boring" state.

Same boring feel for all the first half of TR, a real sleeper part culminating with thin Richard solo where it  needs something loud and strong. Just have to wake when Mark switch to the Pensa with the hope he will not f.ck the final solo...
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Post by: herlock on May 13, 2013, 11:17:04 AM
"Diamond" is one of my all time fave and did have very few opportunities to hear it live (actually two times) so I would have been delighted if I was there.

With only 16 songs performed in less than 2 hours and such a catalogue to choose from you can't please everybody.

Especially if several songs are toward or over the 10 minutes long.

So another reason to think that current Marbletown is a waiste of time.

Early 2008 version was quite a fun shorter and strong version, then it evolved and it wa still fun, although the "new part", although highly entertaining, is something that is a very common heard on the folky scene. Now extended that long it had become to "boring" state.

Same boring feel for all the first half of TR, a real sleeper part culminating with thin Richard solo where it  needs something loud and strong. Just have to wake when Mark switch to the Pensa with the hope he will not f.ck the final solo...
Hey, Marbletown is the only extended stuff, like TOL used to be, so let's keep it that way ! :)
As for TR, I like Istanbul a lot, despite the "karaoke mode": energetic, with a bit of synth, fantastic solo, feels back to 2005.
Even the karaoke mode is a bit better than usual: no guital, but Jim' tries his best to make up for it jamming the piano ! :)
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Post by: ds1984 on May 13, 2013, 11:29:41 AM
I like the piano but hey I am a guitar man  ;)
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Post by: Pottel on May 13, 2013, 12:33:53 PM
And he did eff up the start of the TR solo in Berlin ( or was I Bremen?)
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Post by: dmg on May 13, 2013, 12:55:41 PM

With only 16 songs performed in less than 2 hours and such a catalogue to choose from you can't please everybody.

Especially if several songs are toward or over the 10 minutes long.

So another reason to think that current Marbletown is a waiste of time.

Early 2008 version was quite a fun shorter and strong version, then it evolved and it wa still fun, although the "new part", although highly entertaining, is something that is a very common heard on the folky scene. Now extended that long it had become to "boring" state.

Same boring feel for all the first half of TR, a real sleeper part culminating with thin Richard solo where it  needs something loud and strong. Just have to wake when Mark switch to the Pensa with the hope he will not f.ck the final solo...

Couldn't agree more. :clap
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Post by: JF on May 13, 2013, 01:31:22 PM
"Diamond" is one of my all time fave and did have very few opportunities to hear it live (actually two times) so I would have been delighted if I was there.

With only 16 songs performed in less than 2 hours and such a catalogue to choose from you can't please everybody.

Especially if several songs are toward or over the 10 minutes long.

So another reason to think that current Marbletown is a waiste of time.

Early 2008 version was quite a fun shorter and strong version, then it evolved and it wa still fun, although the "new part", although highly entertaining, is something that is a very common heard on the folky scene. Now extended that long it had become to "boring" state.

Same boring feel for all the first half of TR, a real sleeper part culminating with thin Richard solo where it  needs something loud and strong. Just have to wake when Mark switch to the Pensa with the hope he will not f.ck the final solo...
Hey, Marbletown is the only extended stuff, like TOL used to be, so let's keep it that way ! :)
As for TR, I like Istanbul a lot, despite the "karaoke mode": energetic, with a bit of synth, fantastic solo, feels back to 2005.
Even the karaoke mode is a bit better than usual: no guital, but Jim' tries his best to make up for it jamming the piano ! :)


what I never understood, is to "cut" the rolling river solo on guitar, but to not replace by another instrument.

in 91/92, it was "logic" : the guitar was "replaced" by the sax. you may like it or not (I like it), but at least it has a "logical" sense, that Mark did many times in many new arrangements : a special part played by a specific instrument in studio is played live by another intsrument. ok

but, since 2008, he decided to replace the guitar by...nothing. and it gives indeed the famous "karaoke" mode like Herlock said.

Mark has a 8-members band, and he hasn't got any idea to give this place to another musician ? Instaed of two cittern, it could have been a violin solo on this part ? or flute or... ok I iknow you don't like flute  ;D But I prefer having an sintrument playing somethnig, then...no solo at all

nonsense IMHO.
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Post by: herlock on May 13, 2013, 01:40:50 PM
"Diamond" is one of my all time fave and did have very few opportunities to hear it live (actually two times) so I would have been delighted if I was there.

With only 16 songs performed in less than 2 hours and such a catalogue to choose from you can't please everybody.

Especially if several songs are toward or over the 10 minutes long.

So another reason to think that current Marbletown is a waiste of time.

Early 2008 version was quite a fun shorter and strong version, then it evolved and it wa still fun, although the "new part", although highly entertaining, is something that is a very common heard on the folky scene. Now extended that long it had become to "boring" state.

Same boring feel for all the first half of TR, a real sleeper part culminating with thin Richard solo where it  needs something loud and strong. Just have to wake when Mark switch to the Pensa with the hope he will not f.ck the final solo...
Hey, Marbletown is the only extended stuff, like TOL used to be, so let's keep it that way ! :)
As for TR, I like Istanbul a lot, despite the "karaoke mode": energetic, with a bit of synth, fantastic solo, feels back to 2005.
Even the karaoke mode is a bit better than usual: no guital, but Jim' tries his best to make up for it jamming the piano ! :)


what I never understood, is to "cut" the rolling river solo on guitar, but to not replace by another instrument.

in 91/92, it was "logic" : the guitar was "replaced" by the sax. you may like it or not (I like it), but at least it has a "logical" sense, that Mark did many times in many new arrangements : a special part played by a specific instrument in studio is played live by another intsrument. ok

but, since 2008, he decided to replace the guitar by...nothing. and it gives indeed the famous "karaoke" mode like Herlock said.

Mark has a 8-members band, and he hasn't got any idea to give this place to another musician ? Instaed of two cittern, it could have been a violin solo on this part ? or flute or... ok I iknow you don't like flute  ;D But I prefer having an sintrument playing somethnig, then...no solo at all

nonsense IMHO.
Absolutely. I agree with every bit.
Now it is up to Jim's piano to do all the work, and although the piano is not at all equipped to do this alone, Jim gives some energy into it... as a secret call: "Hey Mark ! remember '96 ? I felt less alone on this part at this point, man !" 
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Post by: ds1984 on May 13, 2013, 01:54:28 PM
And remember that wonderful version on the downloadable full show provided with Privateering ultra deluxe editon  ;D
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Post by: sweetsurrender on May 13, 2013, 03:19:09 PM
I DUG UP A DIAMOND (Antwerpen 2013.05.12) :
Fullscreen it's better ;-)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGSRpaPrEtY

 I was away for the weekend to see the Stones 5oth anniversary concert with Lis. To find out right now that " I dug up a diamond" was played was such a thrill for me.  I just loveeeeeeeeeee this song.  :clap :thumbsup I hope he keeps it in the set for a longgggg time.   I love it more than Tupelo. :)
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Post by: holaknopfler on May 13, 2013, 03:29:22 PM
Another great one from IDUAD

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qsr8uhp6H8
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Post by: herlock on May 13, 2013, 04:10:21 PM
Another great one from IDUAD

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qsr8uhp6H8
Sweet ! Not as gorgeous as the 2006 RRLR DVD version with Emmylou's voice and Richard's guitar tough...
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Post by: dmg on May 13, 2013, 05:36:48 PM
Quite a poor version imo.  Mark seems to run out of ideas near the end (the guitar becoming very quiet when it should be building to a climax bizarrely), then just decides enough and goes for the final solo.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOvQ4SlU3zA
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Post by: naif on May 13, 2013, 05:45:58 PM
Yes agreed. The best one so far is sofia version IMHO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rERSD0u-EUc
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Post by: herlock on May 13, 2013, 06:04:38 PM
Yes agreed. The best one so far is sofia version IMHO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rERSD0u-EUc
Yes this is good...
I love Istanbul too, listening to it I had the impression of going back a bit to the good old Alchemy days... minus the keyboards which I love... but still great, feels like 1979 again... :)
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Post by: dmg on May 13, 2013, 07:20:12 PM
Yes agreed. The best one so far is sofia version IMHO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rERSD0u-EUc

Funny, I watched that only yesterday and thought the same! :thumbsup
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Post by: Tally on May 13, 2013, 07:41:27 PM
Holy cow, now that's a good version! Old licks mixed with some variations. Great.
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Post by: Pottel on May 13, 2013, 07:54:28 PM
I liked his sultans veeeeeeeeeerrry much yesterday, he keeps doing new stuff lick wise all the time this tour.
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Post by: MojoIglesias on May 13, 2013, 08:19:02 PM
I liked his sultans veeeeeeeeeerrry much yesterday, he keeps doing new stuff lick wise all the time this tour.

You have to admit Pottel he messed up at the end.
The thing I like about this though is: he couldn't care less
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Post by: ingridswing on May 13, 2013, 10:17:58 PM
I agree he makes more mistakes this tour, but we get new licks, variation and so on. So I can't care about it  :)
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Post by: ds1984 on May 13, 2013, 10:34:07 PM
Still early on the tour, well see by the end of may how his playing will evolve or not.
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Post by: dmg on May 13, 2013, 11:00:53 PM
I agree he makes more mistakes this tour, but we get new licks, variation and so on. So I can't care about it  :)

That's what I like too:  some new licks, variation, invention, energy and a well constructed solo that leads somewhere.  I hope this continues later in the tour but I fear for it because so far the earlier concerts have fared better in these respects imo.  He, and the band for that matter, now seem to settling into a comfort zone where they think the concerts are easy and put less effort and concentration into them.  At least that's what it looks like from the last few nights YouTube videos.
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Post by: Pottel on May 13, 2013, 11:37:17 PM
and that is the point dmg, everyone here who was not there and only base themselve on YT videos cannot judge well enough. you have to have been there,
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Post by: sweetsurrender on May 14, 2013, 04:35:14 AM
Another great one from IDUAD

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qsr8uhp6H8
Sweet ! Not as gorgeous as the 2006 RRLR DVD version with Emmylou's voice and Richard's guitar tough...

herlock, I agreed.  I meant I'm sooo excited that IDUAD was played.  I love this song veryyyyy  muchhhhhh.  Of course nothing compares to the version with Emmy. :)
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Post by: Mossguitar on May 14, 2013, 08:51:47 AM
Quite a poor version imo.  Mark seems to run out of ideas near the end (the guitar becoming very quiet when it should be building to a climax bizarrely), then just decides enough and goes for the final solo.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOvQ4SlU3zA
I couldn't disagree more! ;) Great version and great playing. The licks at the end are pretty standard, so I don't think he ran out of ideas at all. Are we listening to the same clip? Cool playing, taking risks, making small mistakes as always, a bit out of tempo sometimes, but great. I guess you wouldn't notice any of the irregularities if you were there.
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Post by: lfblaauw on May 14, 2013, 10:54:26 AM
Some reviews here:

http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/1011/Concertverslagen/article/detail/1631784/2013/05/13/Mark-Knopfler-kabbelt-in-een-uitverkocht-Sportpaleis.dhtml
http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/cultuur%2Ben%2Bmedia/muziek/130513_mark_knopfler
http://focus.knack.be/entertainment/muziek/concertverslagen/mark-knopfler-sportpaleis-a-true-sultan-of-swing/article-4000301180338.htm
http://www.hbvl.be/nieuws/media-en-cultuur/aid1384577/mark-knopfler-in-het-sportpaleis-eenvoud-siert.aspx

Lars B.
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Post by: ingridswing on May 14, 2013, 11:24:16 AM
Thanks Lars!
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Post by: Pottel on May 15, 2013, 01:41:59 AM
Dankjewel Lars!