A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: herlock on May 28, 2013, 08:54:26 PM
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Just saw that Friday's is coming to 5-DVD compilation:
http://social.entertainment.msn.com/music/blogs/blog--fridays-music-coming-to-dvd
For those who don't know, Dire Straits made a performance in the show in October 80, which can be found ont YT. This included R&J( for which we have plenty of versions on video) and, more interesting, the best version of Skateaway ever ! more energetic than on the album, quite wonderful.
Not sure, though, that it will be included. Hope that they won't be stupid enough to remove DS performance, or to include only R&J !!
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Just saw that Friday's is coming to 5-DVD compilation:
http://social.entertainment.msn.com/music/blogs/blog--fridays-music-coming-to-dvd
For those who don't know, Dire Straits made a performance in the show in October 80, which can be found ont YT. This included R&J( for which we have plenty of versions on video) and, more interesting, the best version of Skateaway ever ! more energetic than on the album, quite wonderful.
Not sure, though, that it will be included. Hope that they won't be stupid enough to remove DS performance, or to include only R&J !!
yes, on 31th october 80
I wouldn't say that it's the best version ever
I prefer the ones on tour, linked to Single handed sailor.
and I found the one from werchter 81 (legendary sliver pressed bootleg "once upon a time") much better then Fridays, even if it isn't linked to Single heande sailor anymore at the end of the tour.
About Romeo and Juliet, yes we have other video versions for sure, but noone which ends without a solo like this one, so this is a singular version IMHO.
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Just saw that Friday's is coming to 5-DVD compilation:
http://social.entertainment.msn.com/music/blogs/blog--fridays-music-coming-to-dvd
For those who don't know, Dire Straits made a performance in the show in October 80, which can be found ont YT. This included R&J( for which we have plenty of versions on video) and, more interesting, the best version of Skateaway ever ! more energetic than on the album, quite wonderful.
Not sure, though, that it will be included. Hope that they won't be stupid enough to remove DS performance, or to include only R&J !!
yes, on 31th october 80
I wouldn't say that it's the best version ever
I prefer the ones on tour, linked to Single handed sailor.
and I found the one from werchter 81 (legendary sliver pressed bootleg "once upon a time") much better then Fridays, even if it isn't linked to Single heande sailor anymore at the end of the tour.
About Romeo and Juliet, yes we have other video versions for sure, but noone which ends without a solo like this one, so this is a singular version IMHO.
I have listened to many versions of Skateaway, yet this one is my favourite. Maybe because it is the only one that made it on video. Anyway even if it is not your fav, sure you'll be glad to have it on DVD ! :)
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Just saw that Friday's is coming to 5-DVD compilation:
http://social.entertainment.msn.com/music/blogs/blog--fridays-music-coming-to-dvd
For those who don't know, Dire Straits made a performance in the show in October 80, which can be found ont YT. This included R&J( for which we have plenty of versions on video) and, more interesting, the best version of Skateaway ever ! more energetic than on the album, quite wonderful.
Not sure, though, that it will be included. Hope that they won't be stupid enough to remove DS performance, or to include only R&J !!
yes, on 31th october 80
I wouldn't say that it's the best version ever
I prefer the ones on tour, linked to Single handed sailor.
and I found the one from werchter 81 (legendary sliver pressed bootleg "once upon a time") much better then Fridays, even if it isn't linked to Single heande sailor anymore at the end of the tour.
About Romeo and Juliet, yes we have other video versions for sure, but noone which ends without a solo like this one, so this is a singular version IMHO.
I have listened to many versions of Skateaway, yet this one is my favourite. Maybe because it is the only one that made it on video. Anyway even if it is not your fav, sure you'll be glad to have it on DVD ! :)
I don't think I will buy a 5 DVD comp, only for 2 songs. I would prefer if it had been a bonus on Alchemy
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Just saw that Friday's is coming to 5-DVD compilation:
http://social.entertainment.msn.com/music/blogs/blog--fridays-music-coming-to-dvd
For those who don't know, Dire Straits made a performance in the show in October 80, which can be found ont YT. This included R&J( for which we have plenty of versions on video) and, more interesting, the best version of Skateaway ever ! more energetic than on the album, quite wonderful.
Not sure, though, that it will be included. Hope that they won't be stupid enough to remove DS performance, or to include only R&J !!
yes, on 31th october 80
I wouldn't say that it's the best version ever
I prefer the ones on tour, linked to Single handed sailor.
and I found the one from werchter 81 (legendary sliver pressed bootleg "once upon a time") much better then Fridays, even if it isn't linked to Single heande sailor anymore at the end of the tour.
About Romeo and Juliet, yes we have other video versions for sure, but noone which ends without a solo like this one, so this is a singular version IMHO.
I have listened to many versions of Skateaway, yet this one is my favourite. Maybe because it is the only one that made it on video. Anyway even if it is not your fav, sure you'll be glad to have it on DVD ! :)
I don't think I will buy a 5 DVD comp, only for 2 songs. I would prefer if it had been a bonus on Alchemy
Sure it would have been better had it been a bonus on Alchemy, but we have to live in the real world...
An maybe you'll have nice surprises with the other artists.
I bought the Live Aid 3-disc compilation only... for SoS with sax on official video !! call me crazy; but then I watched other artists too and liked some on them. Queen was phenomenal, U2 not bad at all, the who were on fire... :)
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It seems that the Dire Straits set (Romeo & Juliet and Skateway) will be released ! :) I'm so happy...
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/61299/fridays-the-best-of/
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Ok, it seems that very few of you care but...
I've just received my "Best of Fridays" 5-DVD Pack from Amazon !
And now I can really confirm it: Disc 2 features both Skateaway and R&J !! An excellent Skateaway, more dynamic than the album, and a short, intimate R&J, without and end solo, but still very nice to watch. Together with the intimate TOL from the OGWT (see the bonus track on Alchemy DVD/BD), these constitute the only official videos from the wonderful experimental On Location Tour (well, actually, from TV performances rather than actual shows, but hey, let's not be too demanding... or I will end up to demand the official release of the wonderful Dortmund'80 show !).
Now I know it may sound futile to buy 5 DVD for 2 old performances you can find on YouTube, but....how to explain... it is an official video release, and official video releases are so rare when it comes to MK, that I treasure each of them. Does anyone follow my meaning ?
Here is the video releases I own, which are part of compilation/TV shows/charity rather than actual concerts, besides the classical and well-known Alchemy/On the Night/Night in London/Real Live Roarunning:
-Live Aid, featuring both Money for Nothing (average, due to Sting being completely out of tune) and Sultans (awesome, even if slightly less than the amazing Wembley performance 3 days before. Anyway, only official sax version of SOS!).
-Music for Montserrat, featuring Money for Nothing (outstanding, very rocking, with a dream band: Eric Clapton, Sting and Phil Collins !), and Brothers in Arms (great, although I prefer On the Night version).
-Chet Atkins and Friends, featuring Why Worry (mind-blowing version with the Everly Brothers !) and Walk of Life (quite horrible synth, and anyway it's WOL, so, I don't care much).
-Chorus best of DVD, featuring early 78 performances: SOS (the DVD has a image synch problem - better order the performance from INA archive web site), Lions (wonderful even if I prefer the "bad-ass" Dormund 80 version with keyboards), Water of Love, and Eastbound Train (INA only).
-And now, the latest addition: Skateaway and R&J from Fridays !!
Would be nice if these performances would be compiled into one DVD rather than having to buy all this stuff... even if sometimes you come accross other artists you would'nt have seen otherwise... On Live Aid for instance, Queen and The Who are a really treat !
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About the OL tour, don't forget the july 5 concert done at Werchter Festival filmed and recorded for TV and radio, although not aired in complete.
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About the OL tour, don't forget the july 5 concert done at Werchter Festival filmed and recorded for TV and radio, although not aired in complete.
Yeah but it is not official, and is very short on video...
I prefer Dortmund, with the bad ass versions of DTTW, Lions and News !
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About the OL tour, don't forget the july 5 concert done at Werchter Festival filmed and recorded for TV and radio, although not aired in complete.
Yeah but it is not official, and is very short on video...
I prefer Dortmund, with the bad ass versions of DTTW, Lions and News !
I do prefer Werchter. Hope one day the whole show will be retrieved and released at least in audio format. My preference is that happens before I become full deaf ;)
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Try to get these DVD too :
Prince's Trust (86 or 87 I don't remember exactly)
Knebwoth (90), that one is really worth ;)
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:clap Great news! We featured to rough old TV version on AMIT TV 0014 here:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NenC81rzHmk
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Brilliant, I always loved marks' "choppy" playing on this one. And boy oh boy pick, best drummer ever
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Brilliant, I always loved marks' "choppy" playing on this one. And boy oh boy pick, best drummer ever
Yes indeed Pottel ! :)
Do you know why exactly Pick left ? the given explanation ("I didn't want to be a rock drummer forever") seems a bit short; nowadays it seems that he has some resentment against Mark... and Mark in interviews seems a bit embarrassed and acknwleged that Pick was very experienced, you can feel technical respect here...
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Very cool clip, thank you!! Never seen that before! Rock'n roll orchestra at its best... :thumbsup
LE
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I go along with Herlock in that I love this version of Skateaway. I don't know why, but there's just something about it. Maybe the passion Mark exudes in the performance, I don't know. :-\
Don't see this DVD on Amazon UK though.
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Exactly, there is so much passion about it !
Call me crazy but I bought these dvds just for that song... I would not have bought it just for R&J with no end solo, I think.
It was not available on amazon.fr either - I had to order it directly from amazon.com with DHL shipping. You really have to want it...
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Brilliant, I always loved marks' "choppy" playing on this one. And boy oh boy pick, best drummer ever
+1
"Hallelujah, here she comes..."
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Well, nice version, but not extraordinary IMHO
I prefer the versions of the 2nd leg of the tour : wiesbaden, luxembourg, werchter, because on this version :
1) the outro is way too short
2) there's a little greenie at 1:38
3) ok it's a detail, but I don't like the black PUs look, I far prefer the white "alchemy" look ;D :smack
the only things why I like gigs from the beginning of the MM tour are :
- single handed sailor (linked with skateaway)
- in the gallery
- les boys
but all other songs were more developped at the end of the tour (like it's often the case) :
Waterline on Werchter has the piano solo, which isn't present on dortmund
outro on Skateaway was longer
WDYTYG from Wiesbaden is a real gem, while on late 80 it was more in the 79 style
etc...
speaking of official releases, have you ever noticed that the BIA tour was for many years the only ONE with NO official release.
All other tours had at least one song officialy released, in audio or video :
- 78/79 (I know it was several tours, but in terms of DS history, musically speaking, we can count it as one tour) : live at the BBC, and Alchemy bonus
- 80/81 : TOL from dortmund on live at the BBC, then alchmey bonus, and now this version of skateway
- 82/83 : alchemy
- 85/86: ????? even no ONE song. I don't count live aid, as for me it's NOT the BIA tour, it's a charity concert which took place during the BIA tour, but not a concert "from" the tour
- 91/92 : On the night
- 96 : ANIL + the bonus disc from the SOS bestof
- 01 : the bonus disc from the TRD album, and bonus track from WAM single
- 05 : official downloads
- 06 : real live roadrunning
- 08 : ok this is another one, but until 2008, there was only the BIA tour which was ommitted
- 10 : usb sticks
- 13 : usb sticks
I always found strange that the 85/86 era, which was DS at their peak in term of commercial sucess (in term of music it's a matter of taste) was totally ignored by official release, while all other tours have at least one song officialy released :hmm
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Well, nice version, but not extraordinary IMHO
I prefer the versions of the 2nd leg of the tour : wiesbaden, luxembourg, werchter, because on this version :
1) the outro is way too short
2) there's a little greenie at 1:38
3) ok it's a detail, but I don't like the black PUs look, I far prefer the white "alchemy" look ;D :smack
I always found strange that the 85/86 era, which was DS at their peak in term of commercial sucess (in term of music it's a matter of taste) was totally ignored by official release, while all other tours have at least one song officialy released :hmm
Great post JF. The outdo is too short, but that's TV restraints of course. R&J misses some lyrics too.
I've noticed the greenie too, but it's not that bad so as to detract from the rest for me.
I like the black pick-ups! A nice contrast. ;D
I have always thought exactly the same as your last paragraph statement and it's a great pity. I think there is still a market for such a product, probably bigger than the market for a MK solo live DVD/CD. I wonder if the whole concert of Wembley 10.07.85 survives i.e. RATR and other songs not broadcasted. :think
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Well, nice version, but not extraordinary IMHO
I prefer the versions of the 2nd leg of the tour : wiesbaden, luxembourg, werchter, because on this version :
1) the outro is way too short
2) there's a little greenie at 1:38
3) ok it's a detail, but I don't like the black PUs look, I far prefer the white "alchemy" look ;D :smack
I always found strange that the 85/86 era, which was DS at their peak in term of commercial sucess (in term of music it's a matter of taste) was totally ignored by official release, while all other tours have at least one song officialy released :hmm
Great post JF. The outdo is too short, but that's TV restraints of course. R&J misses some lyrics too.
I've noticed the greenie too, but it's not that bad so as to detract from the rest for me.
I like the black pick-ups! A nice contrast. ;D
I have always thought exactly the same as your last paragraph statement and it's a great pity. I think there is still a market for such a product, probably bigger than the market for a MK solo live DVD/CD. I wonder if the whole concert of Wembley 10.07.85 survives i.e. RATR and other songs not broadcasted. :think
Of course it would be great to have Wembley'85 released, I second that ! also for the songs never broadcasted...
This being said, it is not true that the BIA tour had no official releases: we've got Live Aid... an average MFN (ruined by Sting) but a great SOS with sax... you'll tell me that Live Aid was not a proper DS show, but a TV program, and I'll say yes... but so are OGWT and Fridays for the OL tour releases ! ;)
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Live Aid may not have been a "tour show" but the versions were the same and not compromised by being cut for TV.
Sting was really poor on MFN, an otherwise great version. Not only by being out of tune but by singing the wrong lyrics at one point. He sings "custom kitchen deliveries" instead of "we gotta move these colour TVeee's." ::) He actually "sings" sorry when Mark go's into his solo!
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This being said, it is not true that the BIA tour had no official releases: we've got Live Aid... an average MFN (ruined by Sting) but a great SOS with sax... you'll tell me that Live Aid was not a proper DS show, but a TV program, and I'll say yes... but so are OGWT and Fridays for the OL tour releases !
well course, "je chipotte", but live aid is a charity concert like Mandela, prince trust, knebworth....
if DS hadn't been touring at the time, they would still have participated at the live aid.
counting live aid as part of the BIA tour would be like counting knebworth as part of the OES tour, or Montserrat as part of the GH tour...(yes I know dates don't really match, but you know what I mean).
I know I'm maniac, but on my hard disk, my bootlges are sorted by tour, and charity concerts are apart. And I sort Live aid with prince trust, mandela, knebworth, monsterrat, etc....not with wembley july 85...
No matter if it was a TV programm or not, it's the fact they were playing for a global concert, not for "them". On OGWT and Fridays, they were playing fro promoting DS album.
And, in the end, if we stay "logic", and we don't count TV programms (so no count of live aid, OGWT and Fridays) there's always the TOL version from dortmund for the OL tour release ! of course it was broadcasted for rockpop, but it a "real" DS gig, so this one counts !
Did I won ? ;D ;) :lol
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I sort my songs like that on my hard drive too JF, but funnily enough Live Aid sits in the BIA tour section for some reason. I do agree with you though! Maybe just a date thing with me. :hmm
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This being said, it is not true that the BIA tour had no official releases: we've got Live Aid... an average MFN (ruined by Sting) but a great SOS with sax... you'll tell me that Live Aid was not a proper DS show, but a TV program, and I'll say yes... but so are OGWT and Fridays for the OL tour releases !
well course, "je chipotte", but live aid is a charity concert like Mandela, prince trust, knebworth....
if DS hadn't been touring at the time, they would still have participated at the live aid.
counting live aid as part of the BIA tour would be like counting knebworth as part of the OES tour, or Montserrat as part of the GH tour...(yes I know dates don't really match, but you know what I mean).
I know I'm maniac, but on my hard disk, my bootlges are sorted by tour, and charity concerts are apart. And I sort Live aid with prince trust, mandela, knebworth, monsterrat, etc....not with wembley july 85...
No matter if it was a TV programm or not, it's the fact they were playing for a global concert, not for "them". On OGWT and Fridays, they were playing fro promoting DS album.
And, in the end, if we stay "logic", and we don't count TV programms (so no count of live aid, OGWT and Fridays) there's always the TOL version from dortmund for the OL tour release ! of course it was broadcasted for rockpop, but it a "real" DS gig, so this one counts !
Did I won ? ;D ;) :lol
On Audio maybe, but not on video: unfortunately TOL from Dortmund (wrongly labebled as OGWT 1981 on the "Live at BBC" album) was not released on video ! the whole concert should have been.. and the audio release is quite terrible... mono sound with no great quality...