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Previous Tours => 2013 Privateering World Tour => Topic started by: allen on July 13, 2013, 01:49:45 AM

Title: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: allen on July 13, 2013, 01:49:45 AM
PRIVATEERING TOUR 2013 [C 56]
(http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3012.0;attach=983;image)
Location:- http://www.capannelleippodromo.it/
Mark Knopfler:- http://www.5gig.it/concerti/Mark+Knopfler-Roma
Clock @ Weather:- http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=215
TICKETS http://www.ticketone.it/an-evening-with-mark-knopfler-and-band-biglietti-roma.html?affiliate=ITT&doc=artistPages%2Ftickets&fun=artist&action=tickets&key=818448%242332663&jumpIn=yTix&kuid=461442&from=erdetaila
AMIT members attending:- http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php/topic,2573.0.html 
Previous Concert:- http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php/topic,3193.0.html
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32 songs now played on this tour
SET LIST ROME

Different from last Concert in RED

01. What It Is
02. Corned Beef
03. Cleaning My Gun
04. Privateering
05. Father and Son
06. Hillfarmers Blues
07. I used to could
08. Romeo and Juliet
09. Song for Sonny Liston
10. Postcards from Paraguay
11. Marbletown
12. Speedway at Nazareth
13. Telegraph Road
14. So Far Away
15. Piper to the End
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: Jules on July 13, 2013, 08:36:51 PM
Beware with the horses!
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: dmg on July 13, 2013, 10:15:49 PM
Beware with the horses!

Seems the racing didn't finish in time for the concert because it doesn't appear to have started yet! :o
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: crimmer on July 13, 2013, 10:49:55 PM
updates chaps???
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: Jules on July 13, 2013, 11:30:36 PM
updates chaps???

Horses for courses
 :P ;D
 :lol
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: ingridswing on July 14, 2013, 10:39:55 AM
01 Wii
02 cbc
03 cmg
04 priv
05 fas
06 hfb
07 iutc
08 raj
09 sfsl
10 pfp
11 marbletown
12 san
13 tr
14 sfa
15 ptte
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: Dutchessy on July 14, 2013, 10:44:57 AM
short set without diamond again
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: goon525 on July 14, 2013, 11:18:05 AM
At the current rate of set shrinkage the last concert will include only What It Is, a special 90 minute version of Marbletown, and So Far Away. Seriously, can anyone justify why RAH audiences, who had already had the advantage of a rather good support act, should also be blessed with 20% more songs than current punters?
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: naif on July 14, 2013, 11:26:56 AM
At the current rate of set shrinkage the last concert will include only What It Is, a special 90 minute version of Marbletown, and So Far Away. Seriously, can anyone justify why RAH audiences, who had already had the advantage of a rather good support act, should also be blessed with 20% more songs than current punters?

I don't understand Mark these days...
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: superval99 on July 14, 2013, 11:32:37 AM
At the current rate of set shrinkage the last concert will include only What It Is, a special 90 minute version of Marbletown, and So Far Away. Seriously, can anyone justify why RAH audiences, who had already had the advantage of a rather good support act, should also be blessed with 20% more songs than current punters?

Probably because they were at the RAH for 6 nights and didn't have to fly to another destination.  Also the crew didn't have to pack up each night.   :)
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: herlock on July 14, 2013, 11:39:43 AM
At the current rate of set shrinkage the last concert will include only What It Is, a special 90 minute version of Marbletown, and So Far Away. Seriously, can anyone justify why RAH audiences, who had already had the advantage of a rather good support act, should also be blessed with 20% more songs than current punters?

I don't understand Mark these days...
I don't see anything new here; if you recall the Get Lucky tour, this was pretty much the same thing: earlier shows were blessed with more songs and more diversity, whereas later ones where shorter, less innovative, but perfectly executed. In Paris I had 16 songs, with both Prairie Wedding and Coyote, and both Done With Bonaparte and A night in Summer Long ago; in N
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: naif on July 14, 2013, 11:49:29 AM
At the current rate of set shrinkage the last concert will include only What It Is, a special 90 minute version of Marbletown, and So Far Away. Seriously, can anyone justify why RAH audiences, who had already had the advantage of a rather good support act, should also be blessed with 20% more songs than current punters?

I don't understand Mark these days...
I don't see anything new here; if you recall the Get Lucky tour, this was pretty much the same thing: earlier shows were blessed with more songs and more diversity, whereas later ones where shorter, less innovative, but perfectly executed. In Paris I had 16 songs, with both Prairie Wedding and Coyote, and both Done With Bonaparte and A night in Summer Long ago; in N
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: allen on July 14, 2013, 12:10:31 PM
01 Wii
02 cbc
03 cmg
04 priv
05 fas
06 hfb
07 iutc
08 raj
09 sfsl
10 pfp
11 marbletown
12 san
13 tr
14 sfa
15 ptte

We coundn't live without you, I think.   Thanks again and again, Ingrid!
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: dmg on July 14, 2013, 12:18:08 PM
At the current rate of set shrinkage the last concert will include only What It Is, a special 90 minute version of Marbletown, and So Far Away. Seriously, can anyone justify why RAH audiences, who had already had the advantage of a rather good support act, should also be blessed with 20% more songs than current punters?

If I remember RAH tickets were about
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: Love Expresso on July 14, 2013, 12:24:58 PM
I think it's fair to say that they are really on autopilot now - I cannot blame them for it. The question is if ANY band can keep up with this schedule...
I mean it is talk about lower scale and everything but still,  60 shows, almost everytime 5 in a row, at some time there have to be any losses... So the set is stable now and I guess not very much thought is given to it anymore. They are in the sun now, playing only outdoor gigs, they enjoy now. Still on a very high level, according to the reviews of the attendants. It is right what was said about 2010, same phenomenon, shorter sets (Cordoba, Gredos 14 songs played, no set-list changes at all)

What made me more angry was what I heard the last days, can't remember where: Mark saying: "Shouting is good. It's a good therapy, not that I take notice..." referring to the "bequests". Quite arrogant if you ask me. Let them ask, maybe it heals them, (which means they are ill?)
Plus Guy Fletcher's forum answers all lately lack some respect to the people that make his forum exist - they are his guests after all. So I think they are on cloud 10 now, feeling very superior after all those auiences spending so much applause, and maybe they need some time to get back on earth post-tour... All those lines about catering and the grand hotels somewhat gets boring, whereas Guy still did not manage to deliver some entries about the technical aspects of the stage/instruments/tour etc. that has been asked for in the forum more than once...

LE

Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: herlock on July 14, 2013, 12:35:05 PM
At the current rate of set shrinkage the last concert will include only What It Is, a special 90 minute version of Marbletown, and So Far Away. Seriously, can anyone justify why RAH audiences, who had already had the advantage of a rather good support act, should also be blessed with 20% more songs than current punters?

If I remember RAH tickets were about
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: Love Expresso on July 14, 2013, 12:43:53 PM
Yeah it is funny. I agree with dmg that after reading about "the best version so far" I hurried to watch DotdS on YouTube and was slightly disappointed of it, I also found it the weakest of the available versions, the Ianto "incident" was more embarrassing than funny and Mark's singing sounded much more powerless than at the first two versions - from my point of view. But each to his own. Sometimes, one person uttering an opinion first can make a thing going, and anyone would maybe have another opinion about it without hearing it first (if you get what I mean).

I guess we can rely to Ingrid, Pottel and Co., not because they are who they are but because they attended so many shows that they maybe can judge it better than most of us... and being there is a totally different thing than watching it on YouTube later or even listening to the stick of course.
BUT Pottel can't be helped if he thinks Dream of The Drowned Submariner is just an upgraded version of The Fish And The Bird...  ;D

LE
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: herlock on July 14, 2013, 12:50:12 PM
Yeah it is funny. I agree with dmg that after reading about "the best version so far" I hurried to watch DotdS on YouTube and was slightly disappointed of it, I also found it the weakest of the available versions, the Ianto "incident" was more embarrassing than funny and Mark's singing sounded much more powerless than at the first two versions - from my point of view. But each to his own. Sometimes, one person uttering an opinion first can make a thing going, and anyone would maybe have another opinion about it without hearing it first (if you get what I mean).

I guess we can rely to Ingrid, Pottel and Co., not because they are who they are but because they attended so many shows that they maybe can judge it better than most of us... and being there is a totally different thing than watching it on YouTube later or even listening to the stick of course.
BUT Pottel can't be helped if he thinks Dream of The Drowned Submariner is just an upgraded version of The Fish And The Bird...  ;D

LE
The Ianto incident, for me, was neither embarrassing nor funny at first - it made me go through a vast range of emotions in a very short time. At first, I really believed that DODS was skipped, and I felt huge disappointement, almost desperation; then I felt intense surprise when the band stopped; then, intense joy and relief when DOTS was finally played; finally, I had a real good laughter when Mark had the opportunity to renew a bit his set of jokes and say that Ian was "dying to be introduced". Ultimately, I feel proud that I was there during such a rare incident, for such a rare song (only played 4 times !). I also like La Halle version, but I feel -like Ingrid and Isaac- that the solo was better executed in Stuttgart...
 
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: Marikablue on July 14, 2013, 01:25:51 PM
At the current rate of set shrinkage the last concert will include only What It Is, a special 90 minute version of Marbletown, and So Far Away. Seriously, can anyone justify why RAH audiences, who had already had the advantage of a rather good support act, should also be blessed with 20% more songs than current punters?

If I remember RAH tickets were about
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: Ar (aka Enlight) on July 14, 2013, 02:22:34 PM
"Ask Pottel, Ingrid, Isaac, Jeroen,... anybody who was in Stuttgart, the show was just stunning."

OK the first four people I can ask , though they already  share their enthusiasm about the Stuttgart gig ,
but how do I get in contact with the thousands of others who were there  ?   :think

@ LE
"I think it's fair to say that they are really on autopilot now....." , maybe that's why Ianto started to play PFP too soon in Stuttgart (-:


But I am set end ready to listen the Stuttgart USB now , hopefully  I am not  too strongly influenced by all the posts  ;)
 
 
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: dmg on July 14, 2013, 02:40:37 PM
"Ask Pottel, Ingrid, Isaac, Jeroen,... anybody who was in Stuttgart, the show was just stunning."

OK the first four people I can ask , though they already  share their enthusiasm about the Stuttgart gig ,
but how do I get in contact with the thousands of others who were there  ?   :think

@ LE
"I think it's fair to say that they are really on autopilot now....." , maybe that's why Ianto started to play PFP too soon in Stuttgart (-:


But I am set end ready to listen the Stuttgart USB now , hopefully  I am not  too strongly influenced by all the posts  ;)

"Good luck, see you at the end!"
-MK 1978 -  ;D
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: Marikablue on July 14, 2013, 03:31:21 PM
imo there are 2 very distinct concepts here

1. MK and the band play so well that basically any show with any setlist attended live is very enjoyable

2. the setlist is indeed very questionable. For example A lot of people are not happy about it,
especially for missing Sultans while at the same time knowing that it was played in other venues.
Sultans is not one of those song that should be alternated during the tour.
Always in or always out.
I have spoken with a lot of guys and 100% of them have the same feeling.
Then Sultans always in please  ;D
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: Ar (aka Enlight) on July 14, 2013, 07:29:14 PM
"Ask Pottel, Ingrid, Isaac, Jeroen,... anybody who was in Stuttgart, the show was just stunning."

OK the first four people I can ask , though they already  share their enthusiasm about the Stuttgart gig ,
but how do I get in contact with the thousands of others who were there  ?   :think

@ LE
"I think it's fair to say that they are really on autopilot now....." , maybe that's why Ianto started to play PFP too soon in Stuttgart (-:


But I am set end ready to listen the Stuttgart USB now , hopefully  I am not  too strongly influenced by all the posts  ;)

"Good luck, see you at the end!"
-MK 1978 -  ;D

whaha  :thumbsup

I forgot the comma after "end" ( which meant: point, final, closure of any period  :think or dot ),
I am making it worse .........you got me.....the history was in the future , pre-ordered a great MK Rotterdam 78 ticket btw  :hmm
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: naif on July 15, 2013, 09:19:51 PM
Perfect Cleaning My Gun. I think this is one of the best performance for this song. Ian doing a great and agressive job.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cusr50Dr0P8
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: dmg on July 15, 2013, 10:41:54 PM
I enjoyed that.  Thanks Naif!  I agree - one of the best performances of the song.  Great Rome audience must have inspired the whole band all night.
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: naif on July 15, 2013, 11:40:27 PM
I enjoyed that.  Thanks Naif!  I agree - one of the best performances of the song.  Great Rome audience must have inspired the whole band all night.

You're welcome dmg! Yes whole Rome concert is really good.
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: junkiedoll on July 16, 2013, 11:25:10 PM
My impressions from Roma. Incredible atmosphere

What it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf95gIgs5ZM

Corned Beef City
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9_YeQoGnJ4

Romeo ending
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBHMQYYHp18

Piper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t0jmokGPGY
Title: Re: Concert # 56:2013.07.13, Ippodromo delle Capannelle, Rome, Italy # SPOILER #
Post by: JF on July 24, 2013, 10:21:30 AM
Quote
BUT Pottel can't be helped if he thinks Dream of The Drowned Submariner is just an upgraded version of The Fish And The Bird...  ;D

I don't understand this general point of view about fish and the bird. I love that song. Very emotional melody, almost mystic IMHO.

And I love submariner too.