A Mark In Time
Previous Tours => 2013 Privateering World Tour => Topic started by: allen on July 15, 2013, 05:09:52 PM
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PRIVATEERING TOUR 2013 [C 58]
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Location:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_theatre_of_Taormina
Mark Knopfler:- http://www.5gig.it/concerti/Mark+Knopfler-Taormina
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Previous Concert:- http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php/topic,3198.0.html
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32 songs now played on this tour
SET LIST TAORMINA
Different from last Concert in RED
01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
04. Father and son
05. Hill farmer's blues
06. I dug up a diamond
07. I used to could
08. Romeo & Juliet
09. Sultans of swing
10. Song for Sonny Liston
11. Haul away
12. Postcard from Paraguay
13. Marbletown
14. Speedway at Nazareth
15. Telegraph road
16. Our Shangri-la
17. So far away
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I'm there, for holidays and for Mark ! :)
Just five minutes to walk...
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Present!!! :D
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See you there! :thumbsup
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And?
;D
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It's really a shame that they play at such a beautiful, historic and magnificent venue and don't do filming there - this SHOULD be a Blu-Ray!
LE
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It's really a shame that they play at such a beautiful, historic and magnificent venue and don't do filming there - this SHOULD be a Blu-Ray!
LE
IMO the real shame is we should have 71 Blu-Rays 8)
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It's really a shame that they play at such a beautiful, historic and magnificent venue and don't do filming there - this SHOULD be a Blu-Ray!
LE
Tell Guy...... ::)
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Im going to bet:
What it is, corned, privateering, father, hill, diamond, use to could, Romeo, sonny, paraguay, marble, speedway, telegraph, so far, piper
Let's see if I'm wrong if someone reveals the set ;D
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It's really a shame that they play at such a beautiful, historic and magnificent venue and don't do filming there - this SHOULD be a Blu-Ray!
LE
It is so beautiful.
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Im going to bet:
What it is, corned, privateering, father, hill, diamond, use to could, Romeo, sonny, paraguay, marble, speedway, telegraph, so far, piper
Let's see if I'm wrong if someone reveals the set ;D
My little bet:
CMG will be added and sonny will be replaced by Gator Blood
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Im going to bet:
What it is, corned, privateering, father, hill, diamond, use to could, Romeo, sonny, paraguay, marble, speedway, telegraph, so far, piper
Let's see if I'm wrong if someone reveals the set ;D
My little bet:
CMG will be added and sonny will be replaced by Gator Blood
I'm going to go for Sultans tonight instead of Sonny. :think
;)
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Im going to bet:
What it is, corned, privateering, father, hill, diamond, use to could, Romeo, sonny, paraguay, marble, speedway, telegraph, so far, piper
Let's see if I'm wrong if someone reveals the set ;D
My little bet:
CMG will be added and sonny will be replaced by Gator Blood
I'm going to go for Sultans tonight instead of Sonny. :think
;)
Why don't you just buy yourself a lottery ticket ? More chances to win. ;)
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Im going to bet:
What it is, corned, privateering, father, hill, diamond, use to could, Romeo, sonny, paraguay, marble, speedway, telegraph, so far, piper
Let's see if I'm wrong if someone reveals the set ;D
My little bet:
CMG will be added and sonny will be replaced by Gator Blood
I'm going to go for Sultans tonight instead of Sonny. :think
;)
Why don't you just buy yourself a lottery ticket ? More chances to win. ;)
If he plays it tonight, I will buy a ticket and I will win too! ;D
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It's really a shame that they play at such a beautiful, historic and magnificent venue and don't do filming there - this SHOULD be a Blu-Ray!
LE
Tell Guy...... ::)
I did! i even got an answer! :D which is very unusal for me.. however please feel free to make whatever you want from that one..
LE
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It's really a shame that they play at such a beautiful, historic and magnificent venue and don't do filming there - this SHOULD be a Blu-Ray!
LE
Tell Guy...... ::)
I did! i even got an answer! :D which is very unusal for me.. however please feel free to make whatever you want from that one..
LE
I'm thinking that perhaps he wouldn't be against it personally but the decision regarding the DVD/BD comes from above.
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It's really a shame that they play at such a beautiful, historic and magnificent venue and don't do filming there - this SHOULD be a Blu-Ray!
LE
Tell Guy...... ::)
I did! i even got an answer! :D which is very unusal for me.. however please feel free to make whatever you want from that one..
LE
I'm thinking that perhaps he wouldn't be against it personally but the decision regarding the DVD/BD comes from above.
Crockford
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I think that there is gonna be a dvd, but it will be the BBC concert.
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I think that there is gonna be a dvd, but it will be the BBC concert.
I don't think the surroundings of an old TV studio can compete somehow! :disbelief
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I think that there is gonna be a dvd, but it will be the BBC concert.
I don't think the surroundings of an old TV studio can compete somehow! :disbelief
Yes but its an easy comes easy goes thing, they went to the BBC to record a tv show that in broadcast last between 60 and 90 minutes, but they played a full concert of 120 minutes...
Its like the ANIL dvd.
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1.What it is 2.corned beef city 3.privateering 4. Father and son 5. Hill farmer's blues 6. I dug up a diamond 7. Gator blood 8. Romeo & Juliet 9. SOS 10. Song for Sonny Liston 11. Haul haway 12. Postcard from paraguay 13. Marbletown
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Thank you for live setlist enzo! ;D
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I think that there is gonna be a dvd, but it will be the BBC concert.
I don't think the surroundings of an old TV studio can compete somehow! :disbelief
Yes but its an easy comes easy goes thing, they went to the BBC to record a tv show that in broadcast last between 60 and 90 minutes, but they played a full concert of 120 minutes...
Its like the ANIL dvd.
And I'll bet it's cost effective too; the BBC will pay them to perform and out of it MK will get the bonus of being able to release a DVD/BD! ;D
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has just played sultans??? or is this a wined up!!!
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yes, 100% SOS
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I don't believe it for a second! ;)
BTW if it turns out to be true, I'm buying that lottery ticket! ;D
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yes, 100% SOS
I apologise. I am now predicting the set every night folks! :thumbsup
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sonny , gator blood and sultans all in one night definatley gonna order this stick I think!!!
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yes, 100% SOS
When was the last time he did that one..... 6 weeks ago.... :think
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Yuppiiii
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yes, 100% SOS
When was the last time he did that one..... 6 weeks ago.... :think
London, 1st of June.
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Real surprise! I have not expected him to play Sultans once more on this tour. I thought he really had put it to sleep. Now it hurts even more not to have a Blu-ray from this beautiful.... well, sorry, It is my theme of the day...
LE
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yeap 1st june I was there that day and what sultans , expect tonight to be brill
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I am so relieved! OMG, thought that was long gone..happyyyyyyy
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1.What it is 2.corned beef city 3.privateering 4. Father and son 5. Hill farmer's blues 6. I dug up a diamond 7. Gator blood 8. Romeo & Juliet 9. SOS 10. Song for Sonny Liston 11. Haul haway 12. Postcard from paraguay 13. Marbletown 14. speedway at Nazareth 15. telegraph road
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This must be the best gig of the tour :o
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Lucky fans there tonight. I'll bet he makes them pay with no Speedway!
As LE said, it is doubly sad there is no filming tonight now. Instead they film in an old studio when Sultans wasn't played! :disbelief
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Lucky fans there tonight. I'll bet he makes them pay with no Speedway!
As LE said, it is doubly sad there is no filming tonight now. Instead they film in an old studio when Sultans wasn't played! :disbelief
' I'll bet he makes them pay with no Speedway! '
;D
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I used to could play Sultans instead, he must have thought .
but the whole setlist is NEW! ! !...horizontal :think
yeaahhh great to see SOS back :wave
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Lucky fans there tonight. I'll bet he makes them pay with no Speedway!
Hehe...lol
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I imagine the moment when Gator Blood starts so early in the set: "What, now he skips Romeo & Juliet, too???" And then the surprise! Great idea, Mr. Knopfler.. . :thumbsup
LE
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I imagine the moment when Gator Blood starts so early in the set: "What, now he skips Romeo & Juliet, too???" And then the surprise! Great idea, Mr. Knopfler.. . :thumbsup
LE
I wouldn't be suprised if he reads this forum. When he has absolutely nothing to do of course
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I really think it's a great idea, don't get me wrong. No sarcasm tonight from my side! :D Gator Blood has always been played after Romeo, hasn't it?
LE
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This must be the best gig of the tour :o
why? Only coz sultans is back? Come on...
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I really think it's a great idea, don't get me wrong. No sarcasm tonight from my side! :D Gator Blood has always been played after Romeo, hasn't it?
LE
You're right, only in France they played it as an encore.
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This must be the best gig of the tour :o
why? Only coz sultans is back? Come on...
Yes.. I've only heard Sultans one time live, and I would like to hear it a few more times
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I really think it's a great idea, don't get me wrong. No sarcasm tonight from my side! :D Gator Blood has always been played after Romeo, hasn't it?
LE
mostly , or after Sultans, when it was played.
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This must be the best gig of the tour :o
why? Only coz sultans is back? Come on...
Yes.. I've only heard Sultans one time live, and I would like to hear it a few more times
i see. As much as I understand your personal view here, in general I do not see the point
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Maybe you can agree that this could be one of the best set-lists of the tour? Gator Blood, Sultans, Sonny Liston at the same gig, Speedway not dropped... of course those times of big surprises from April/May were also great...
LE
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Maybe you can agree that this could be one of the best set-lists of the tour? Gator Blood, Sultans, Sonny Liston at the same gig, Speedway not dropped... of course those times of big surprises from April/May were also great...
LE
That was exactly what I was trying to say! Didn't write it down precisely. Too late..
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I am missing the funny intro break of Use to Could already :'(
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This is the gig that just keeps on giving! ;D
What next? TOL in the encores... :o
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This is the gig that just keeps on giving! ;D
What next? TOL in the encores... :o
as long as it has an intro break its good enough for moi ;D
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1.What it is 2.corned beef city 3.privateering 4. Father and son 5. Hill farmer's blues 6. I dug up a diamond 7. I used to could 8. Romeo & Juliet 9. SOS 10. Song for Sonny Liston 11. Haul haway 12. Postcard from paraguay 13. Marbletown 14. speedway at Nazareth 15. telegraph road 16. Our Shangri la 17. so far away
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I hope Allen has enough RED in tha house :lol
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Thanks for the set tonight Enzo. Maybe the 2nd most interesting of the tour (after the 1st night).
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Great ! Hope to get SOS in St Julien...
Still, if in 2010 somebody had told me that one day we would all go crazy about getting SOS as a new song, I would have called him/her crazy....:)
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Great ! Hope to get SOS in St Julien...
Still, if in 2010 somebody had told me that one day we would all go crazy about getting SOS as a new song, I would have called him/her crazy....:)
Richie's birthday : setlist in St-Julien could be shortnened :disbelief or be a crazy one (with SOS ?) ...
Also the day before there will be Tina Turner's wedding party in Zürich.
I can't imagine MK being around and not going at all. He managed to be up there that week-end... :think
There was a show in Montreux in the pipeline :'( and it ended up with two shows in Basel/Zurich area :-\ next .
Crystal clear
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SOS is back !!!!!! SOS is back !!!! WoW! I almost fell off my chair. ! It used to be customary that SOS is played, now it's become so soughtafter, we fans will die to hear it played live again. What has MK done to us????? I'm so HAPPPPYYYYY :thumbsup :clap :clap
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No Gator blood, it was I used to could.
But what a surprise with SOS !!!
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No Gator blood, it was I used to could.
But what a surprise with SOS !!!
Huge surprise ! You got SOS quite often, didn't you ? ;)
Let's hope it's back for the rest of the tour. ;D
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Im going to bet:
What it is, corned, privateering, father, hill, diamond, use to could, Romeo, sonny, paraguay, marble, speedway, telegraph, so far, piper
Let's see if I'm wrong if someone reveals the set ;D
My little bet:
CMG will be added and sonny will be replaced by Gator Blood
I'm going to go for Sultans tonight instead of Sonny. :think
;)
Why don't you just buy yourself a lottery ticket ? More chances to win. ;)
If he plays it tonight, I will buy a ticket and I will win too! ;D
I hope you bought the lotteryticket. When will the winningday be? We want to gratulate you with being a rich man ;-)
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I hope you bought the lotteryticket. When will the winningday be? We want to gratulate you with being a rich man ;-)
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Well, tonight's the night for midweek lottery... :D
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No gator blood but i used to could :-[
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I hope you bought the lotteryticket. When will the winningday be? We want to gratulate you with being a rich man ;-)
Well, tonight's the night for midweek lottery... :D
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I hope you win, dmg and then Grand Hotel Timeo, here you come! :wave
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About Sultans...........it's like be able to see an old friend who has been gone for thirty years 8) 8) 8)
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Distinctly average version (notice he sings "platform soles" and not "best Kings Road")!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELhRqJWo3gQ
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Distinctly average version (notice he sings "platform soles" and not "best Kings Road")!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELhRqJWo3gQ
I thought it was fantastic! :thumbsup Well above average and I'm sure it must have been wonderful to be there and hear it in that magnificent setting! :D
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Distinctly average version (notice he sings "platform soles" and not "best Kings Road")!:
I thought it was fantastic! :thumbsup Well above average and I'm sure it must have been wonderful to be there and hear it in that magnificent setting! :D
On another listen I will revise my opinion and say it was terrible. If he is going to play it again this tour he needs to practice it more - it sounded as though he hadn't played it in 6 years never mind 6 weeks. :disbelief
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Distinctly average version (notice he sings "platform soles" and not "best Kings Road")!:
I thought it was fantastic! :thumbsup Well above average and I'm sure it must have been wonderful to be there and hear it in that magnificent setting! :D
On another listen I will revise my opinion and say it was terrible. If he is going to play it again this tour he needs to practice it more - it sounded as though he hadn't played it in 6 years never mind 6 weeks. :disbelief
One of us must have cloth ears then! :lol No, I just had a feel and it's not me! ;D
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Distinctly average version (notice he sings "platform soles" and not "best Kings Road")!:
I thought it was fantastic! :thumbsup Well above average and I'm sure it must have been wonderful to be there and hear it in that magnificent setting! :D
On another listen I will revise my opinion and say it was terrible. If he is going to play it again this tour he needs to practice it more - it sounded as though he hadn't played it in 6 years never mind 6 weeks. :disbelief
One of us must have cloth ears then! :lol No, I just had a feel and it's not me! ;D
All went well until the 2nd solo and we had inaccurate playing, licks that just weren't coming off for him, too short a build up, unimaginative and the final twiddly bits weren't perfect either. How was it "fantastic"!!! :)
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"My Taormina"
Taormina is distant only 40 km from my home. But when started the presale of tickets, 10 months before the concert, I was not sure I can go and I gave up to "privileged" tickets. Only in May, I decided, and I got tickets for the steps unnumbered.
Yesterday, around 3:30 PM, under a scorching sun, I went to Taormina and at 4:30 I was out of the greek theater. I learned that at 17.30 the theater would be closed to visitors, and that would be mounted the barricades waiting for the concert. A walk along the beautiful Taormina's Corso Umberto 1, crowded with tourists, an ice cream, and at 17.30 I was back in front of the theater. In front of me there were already about fifty people (not many thankfully). I waited patiently under the sun and I got to chat with my "neighbors". They were mostly young boys, with just some smattering on the DS and MK. The 2 hours of waiting have passed pleasantly enough, with the "highlight" when Ian Thomas approached the barriers, greeted us and also took some photos. Around 7:30 they opened the gates and there was a small race to try to occupy the most central seats. In the end it was not bad: quite central, with a great view of the stage and on the fairy-tale setting of the greek theater: the ancient ruins, the sea and Mount Etna in the background.
The environment was very quiet, ideal for following the concert (no rivers of beer!) Around me, many in their forties, but also youngs and a few gray hairs. The two hours waiting for the concert beginning are spent amiably, immersed in a stunning setting. Among my thoughts was the fact that it was the first time that Mark was playing in Taormina (and in this magnificent theater that oozes history), that yesterday the "boys" had rested and that this night they would stop to sleep again in Taormina (so no planes to take and no rush :)). The premises were good. On the other hand in the last dates the setlist was a bit limited, but even this would not have disturbed my night.
At about 9:20 pm the funny PC (and I mean it affectionately: after last night I love him too :)) has appeared on stage with a jacket (or shirt?) with the English flag and announced the beginning of the concert. There we go.
Mark - I thought - was in a good mood, greeted the audience and began with WII. Beautiful solo, with McC's violin, McG's flute and the "maestro" at the center of the stage with his red guitar. Following the excellent performances of CBC and Privateering. The band is "loose", in good spirits: it does not seem they have about sixty dates behind in the last 3 months. Begin the notes of F&S and I start to move me, and for the sweetness of the music and because I know it's the prelude to HFB, one of my favorites. And I'm not disappointed: the notes of the Gibson, Mark with his eyes closed: there is everything to be carried in the dream. Then the sweet IDUAD, reggae version, exciting.
At this point, Mark embraces again his red guitar: someone in the audience shouts "Sultans of Swiiiiiiing" Mark replied something smiling. A few seconds of waiting, the suspense grows ... begins IUTC :). Pleasant! Then the sweet notes of RaJ and, as usual, in the final solo Mark again embraces the "red." I think: "now the Gibson and go with Sonny Liston". But Mark remains on stage without changing guitar, the tension rises, it becomes anxiety ............... Mark outlines a "Thank youuuuuu". It's the confirmation: after over a month of absence SOS is back! Great excitement: maybe not a perfect rendition but that does not matter in the slightest. Surely it was a welcome surprise, a gift to his many fans in Sicily. In the end, the usual standing ovation. Now, he embraces the Gibson and starts Sonny Liston: hoarse, scratchy, "dirty". I know I'm in the minority, but I consider this song a little masterpiece, a perfect harmony between music and text: dramatic, violent, pounding. Follows the sweet Haul away, the band intro and the enthralling PFP: I looked at the public and it was hard to see someone who does not "dance" sitting :lol
Then Marbletown: I knew it was "long" but I must say that has slipped away quickly, pleasantly. When the music slowed, in mid-song, some applause started (not everyone knew it); then the "right" deserved applause, especially for John McC.
Silence! Begin the notes of Speedway: sublime! The peak when, during the final solo, to the play of lights on the stage, were added, in the background, behind the columns of the greek theater, the fireworks: of course it was accidental, but for me it was a sign, a tribute of the entire island to the "maestro", who wanted to add his notes to the two-thousand year history of the theater. A fairy tale context, unforgettable. But there is no time to catch breath, in the air resonates the "hiss" of TR. Then the Pensa, the solo: it's the apotheosis!
The band comes out in the applause of an enthusiastic audience. I count the tracks: 1,2,3 .... 15! For me, the concert could also end up here, I'm fully satisfied. But I expect at least one "encore". Then I think: "No plane to catch." You can dare with expectations. Back on stage: it is not SFA but the sweet S-LA. I'm now convinced: they will be 17! And in fact there is also SFA, which seemed to me particularly nice.
At the end Mark seems happy, even excited. Greets the audience with sweeping gestures and even comes close to the audience shaking a few hands. Now I'm sure he enjoyed it too.
The band gave us 2 hours of pure enjoyment: an unforgettable night! Thanks!
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Thank you rudiger, for that wonderful account of the Taormina concert and I'm very pleased that you enjoyed it so much. What a beautiful venue to hear MK's music! 8)
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Distinctly average version (notice he sings "platform soles" and not "best Kings Road")!:
I thought it was fantastic! :thumbsup Well above average and I'm sure it must have been wonderful to be there and hear it in that magnificent setting! :D
On another listen I will revise my opinion and say it was terrible. If he is going to play it again this tour he needs to practice it more - it sounded as though he hadn't played it in 6 years never mind 6 weeks. :disbelief
One of us must have cloth ears then! :lol No, I just had a feel and it's not me! ;D
All went well until the 2nd solo and we had inaccurate playing, licks that just weren't coming off for him, too short a build up and the final twiddly bits were just a mess. How was it "fantastic"!!! :)
Well "fantastic" is probably not the correct word, but in any case I really enjoyed listening to it and that's all that really matters to me. ;)
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Very nice review. Thanks Rüdiger!
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Fireworks during Speedway
(http://imageshack.us/a/img593/8614/s04m.jpg)
(sorry for the pic quality; actually it's not a pic ;D)
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Distinctly average version (notice he sings "platform soles" and not "best Kings Road")!:
I thought it was fantastic! :thumbsup Well above average and I'm sure it must have been wonderful to be there and hear it in that magnificent setting! :D
On another listen I will revise my opinion and say it was terrible. If he is going to play it again this tour he needs to practice it more - it sounded as though he hadn't played it in 6 years never mind 6 weeks. :disbelief
One of us must have cloth ears then! :lol No, I just had a feel and it's not me! ;D
All went well until the 2nd solo and we had inaccurate playing, licks that just weren't coming off for him, too short a build up and the final twiddly bits were just a mess. How was it "fantastic"!!! :)
Well "fantastic" is probably not the correct word, but in any case I really enjoyed listening to it and that's all that really matters to me. ;)
One thing's for sure - it was fantastic to have it back. Let us all be thankful for that!
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Distinctly average version (notice he sings "platform soles" and not "best Kings Road")!:
I thought it was fantastic! :thumbsup Well above average and I'm sure it must have been wonderful to be there and hear it in that magnificent setting! :D
On another listen I will revise my opinion and say it was terrible. If he is going to play it again this tour he needs to practice it more - it sounded as though he hadn't played it in 6 years never mind 6 weeks. :disbelief
One of us must have cloth ears then! :lol No, I just had a feel and it's not me! ;D
All went well until the 2nd solo and we had inaccurate playing, licks that just weren't coming off for him, too short a build up and the final twiddly bits were just a mess. How was it "fantastic"!!! :)
Well "fantastic" is probably not the correct word, but in any case I really enjoyed listening to it and that's all that really matters to me. ;)
One thing's for sure - it was fantastic to have it back. Let us all be thankful for that!
Amen to that and I hope it will be played when I'm at Carcassonne! :)
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Hi all,
Thanks for doing what you do... the work you guys put in on this site is wonderful. I LOVED this version of SOS... because I didn't think we would hear it again. For me it was perfect... I would love to hear TOL played live again and I'm sure we could all pick faults in what they do and how they do it but I'd just love to hear it. In case you wondered I'm a 'get a lifer' as Guy calls us... and I am so happy Mk wants to make more music and tour. This is why we are all here. I do laugh at Guy's dismay at the people with mobile devices recording stuff... the hero's that do this allow me to visit versions of songs I love from places I will never get to and be part of it. So thank you also my recording hero's! I love SOS... it's back and that's all that matters.
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"My Taormina"
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The band gave us 2 hours of pure enjoyment: an unforgettable night! Thanks!
Very Nice review :thumbsup
another nice read, glad you had Sultans!
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Rudiger, That was an excellent review. :thumbsup :thumbsup :clap I enjoyed reading it very much. And what a magnifcient venue . I've never seen anything quite like it. To top it off with SOS, now that's like a heavenly experience on earth. ;)
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Distinctly average version (notice he sings "platform soles" and not "best Kings Road")!:
I thought it was fantastic! :thumbsup Well above average and I'm sure it must have been wonderful to be there and hear it in that magnificent setting! :D
On another listen I will revise my opinion and say it was terrible. If he is going to play it again this tour he needs to practice it more - it sounded as though he hadn't played it in 6 years never mind 6 weeks. :disbelief
Agree... Previous versions this tour were much better in the 2nd solo. He hasn't played it since 1 june, is that the reason? Lack of practice/performing?
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Distinctly average version (notice he sings "platform soles" and not "best Kings Road")!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELhRqJWo3gQ
I thought it was fantastic! :thumbsup Well above average and I'm sure it must have been wonderful to be there and hear it in that magnificent setting! :D
I got goosebumps from start to finish. smiles all over. What a great surprise. I bet the stick for this show will sell like crazy. :)
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I have to agree with dmg. But also have to say it has been heard far worse... So maybe MK REALLY lost interest in the song, half-arsed trying maybe, I play it once more, some kind of hate/love relation to that song... I would prefer him not to play it anymore if the looses the interest in the song.
LE
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Nice version. I'm still in love with that song. I saw two fantastic shows.............but I really missed one song both nights ;D
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Distinctly average version (notice he sings "platform soles" and not "best Kings Road")!:
I thought it was fantastic! :thumbsup Well above average and I'm sure it must have been wonderful to be there and hear it in that magnificent setting! :D
On another listen I will revise my opinion and say it was terrible. If he is going to play it again this tour he needs to practice it more - it sounded as though he hadn't played it in 6 years never mind 6 weeks. :disbelief
I'm honestly amazed that a song quality can genuinely be based on what can only best described as terrible YouTube quality clips, sound wise.
This was certainly not the best of course but terrible?
Wait for a soundboard version.
It sounded fine for a S.H.I.T.E YouTube audio clip IMO.
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I agree about crap videos on YouTube, but a false note on a shit video might sound false on a soundboard recording, too... I listened for the second time now and the word "average" describes it perfectly imho. We have some better versions from this tour alone.
LE
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I agree about crap videos on YouTube, but a false note on a shit video might sound false on a soundboard recording, too... I listened for the second time now and the word "average" describes it perfectly imho. We have some better versions from this tour alone.
LE
A bad note?? What have we become? Lol ;-). I'll tell you what, I can bet they never even practiced the time since 1st June. In my opinion I think I'm actually just tired of the "original 4 piece" version these days
It's nothing about Knopfler's ability. Take a listen to recent versions of Speedway and telegraph road. Astoundingly technical and great.
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Hm, don't get what you mean... maybe it's too hot today... 8) Don't you think there are any?
LE
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I have listened to this version of SOS about 5 times now and I do honestly enjoy it very much. True, it's not fantastic (as I said previously) or perfect, but what is perfection? Sometimes improvisation might sound imperfect to one person, but it could be perfection to another's ears. A lot of people rate the Milan 2013 version very highly - some have said it's the best ever, but what I heard was MK making very heavy weather of getting to the end and there seemed to be some rather iffy notes in there too - or could that have been improvisation and it passed me by? :)
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Not netter or worse thn many other versions this, or any other tour. Decent, not special. Beautiful setting though! Also, the amount of people filming ( I believe I saw 3 iPads in the beginning) is unbelievable...
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Yep. It's another version of sultans. We honestly can't expect something groundbreaking each time..... We never had the privilege to hear so many versions back in the day.
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Hm, don't get what you mean... maybe it's too hot today... 8) Don't you think there are any?
LE
Ignore me LE... I'm just being boisterous :P
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I have listened to this version of SOS about 5 times now and I do honestly enjoy it very much. True, it's not fantastic (as I said previously) or perfect, but what is perfection? Sometimes improvisation might sound imperfect to one person, but it could be perfection to another's ears. A lot of people rate the Milan 2013 version very highly - some have said it's the best ever, but what I heard was MK making very heavy weather of getting to the end and there seemed to be some rather iffy notes in there too - or could that have been improvisation and it passed me by? :)
I listened to that Milan version earlier today after hearing this funnily enough and the difference is night and day. Milan is full of inspired improvisation and the solo flows along nicely leading to something instead of jumping from one crisis to the next (so to speak). Milan has a great solo. This is just small bits and bobs that aren't really coming off all cobbled together that don't really amount to a whole.
Aren't we over-analizing this though. It's only one performance of a song after all!
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I have listened to this version of SOS about 5 times now and I do honestly enjoy it very much. True, it's not fantastic (as I said previously) or perfect, but what is perfection? Sometimes improvisation might sound imperfect to one person, but it could be perfection to another's ears. A lot of people rate the Milan 2013 version very highly - some have said it's the best ever, but what I heard was MK making very heavy weather of getting to the end and there seemed to be some rather iffy notes in there too - or could that have been improvisation and it passed me by? :)
I listened to that Milan version earlier today after hearing this funnily enough and the difference is night and day. Milan is full of inspired improvisation and the solo flows along nicely leading to something instead of jumping from one crisis to the next (so to speak). Milan has a great solo. This is just small bits and bobs that aren't really coming off all cobbled together that don't really amount to a whole.
Aren't we over-analizing this though. It's only one performance of a song after all!
Ok let's troll :D
Anyway I find the highly praised 4-piece versions a bit dull...
I really miss the super-bad-ass versions of the OL, LOG, BIA and OES tour, with keyboards (yes, keyboards ! they bring power and volume nuances to the song !), sax break, even pedal steel... The Alchemy version, even without sax, is enraged, full of energy, keyboards give depth to it... the sax break of subsequent tours was a bit cheesy but sooooo cool.... even Jim's piano in 96 was great to me...
If it is to hear a 4-piece version I'd rather listen to the studio version - super clean, crystal clear, great...
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His guitar switch or something was broken during the Milan version right? Thats why its so different. Hey played it with different notes. I think he was forced due this guitar malfunction.
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His guitar switch or something was broken during the Milan version right? Thats why its so different. Hey played it with different notes. I think he was forced due this guitar malfunction.
DMG wrote: "Milan is full of inspired improvisation and the solo flows along nicely leading to something instead of jumping from one crisis to the next (so to speak). Milan has a great solo.................................."
maybe I don't get it Dutchessy....but in your opinion Marks played a great Sultans because of the fact that his guitar gear/setup malfunctioned ?
How great would he have played if his guitar was in perfect condition :think
Changing regular notes when your guitar is a bit kaput isn't a clever thing to do and make no sense , if the guitar neck point in a 90 degrees
angle to the ground.......you may wanna bend a string to reach the proper note.
so I think he played the notes he wanted to play during the Milan gig.
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Is there ever a bad version of Sultans ???? I'm thrilled just to hear it play again. :thumbsup :clap Like dmg said, maybe we are over analizing it. :)
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His guitar switch or something was broken during the Milan version right? Thats why its so different. Hey played it with different notes. I think he was forced due this guitar malfunction.
We had this before and I am not sure if this is right. "Just fixing my guitar" was said by him after Sultans - I guess it was about the next guitar for Gator Blood - he noodles around a bit to try if everything is ok and then starts into Gator Blood. That's however how I got it. Could be wrong though.
About the over-analyzing. Even if we analyze Sultans to death - we are allowed to! We are the die-hard-fans! ;D It just shows how much we all love this song! The same as you can talk for hours, days, weeks about ONE football match or ONE football scene, we can talk about this masterpieces for, let's say, the next three years? ;D
LE
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I think there's a lot to be said for the days before recordings were available! You just went to a concert and if you enjoyed it that was fine, if you didn't, well, maybe next time will be better! ::)
These days we have so many recording of all of the concerts and inevitably there are far too many opportunities for post-mortems, analysis and nit-picking! However, I wouldn't like to be without the recordings either! ;)
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I think there's a lot to be said for the days before recordings were available! You just went to a concert and if you enjoyed it that was fine, if you didn't, well, maybe next time will be better! ::)
These days we have so many recording of all of the concerts and inevitably there are far too many opportunities for post-mortems, analysis and nit-picking! However, I wouldn't like to be without the recordings either! ;)
Perfectly put Val :) That was pretty much my point.... too much opportunity to analyse every version that comes out.... Upon listening to another version of the same song it sounds fine barring one note that is off. Knopfler and many other artists have made the same mistakes over all the years.
I would just add that I'm not entirely sure that Thomas' drumming is that good on Sultans.... Shame as every other song is brilliant from him imo.
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He doesn't make the show on SOS as Danny did but Ianto is super efficient on it. As we say in french "c'est carr
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here the person who claimed to be the one who gave us Sutans that evening , was he? :think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mhNxXczcAU