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Title: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: knopflerized on October 04, 2013, 05:14:07 PM
What do you think of the new sticks ? Blue is weird for a MK strat...But I'm sure I will buy one "sigh"
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/937991guitarsblue2.jpg)
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: dmg on October 04, 2013, 06:04:25 PM
Don't know why they didn't "stick" with red.  Did they run out of red paint?  Maybe they should have made a nice Gibson  LP or the National instead.
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 04, 2013, 06:07:51 PM
Oh dear thats a bit pants!!
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: knopflerized on October 04, 2013, 06:08:30 PM
Don't know why they didn't "stick" with red.  Did they run out of red paint?  Maybe they should have made a nice Gibson  LP or the National instead.

Marketing ! Red , we almost all have at least one... Gibson or National would cost money to create... Blue.. they just change the paint and that's it !
 White would have been better (to me) as MK use a white strat on this tour... Blue... is well... never mind I'll get one too !
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Masiakasaurus on October 04, 2013, 07:58:57 PM
Speaking of blue guitars, does anyone know if Mark still uses that beautiful pelham blue Les Paul?

Regarding the stick, marketing is probably it!
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: knopfling on October 04, 2013, 08:02:54 PM
"Can't get no fancy notes on my blue guitar" . . .
Yeah, blue is odd, but I'll get one.
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Love Expresso on October 04, 2013, 08:04:27 PM
Surprised to read all those somehow negative responses to the new blue sticks. They are just sticks anyway, no real guitars... so my first reaction, when I saw the MK news mail at work this afternoon, was "hey, nice, good idea!" It is just funny that the chose another colour. A new guitar style would not have been so great for me because these are still Privateering shows.  So now these blue are the "Privateering tour encore concert sticks". Maybe they will do les Pauls or Nationals at the next tour, that would be cool.

Really considering ordering one stick. Maybe I will wait for the concert reviews first, but the first show should be very good anyway.

LE
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Love Expresso on October 04, 2013, 09:28:07 PM
(http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/MK_guitars_fender11b.jpg)

 ;)

LE
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Masiakasaurus on October 04, 2013, 09:38:50 PM
And there we have it!  ;D
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: yontwocrows on October 04, 2013, 10:06:21 PM
(http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/MK_guitars_fernandes3.jpg)
 :clap
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: foma on October 04, 2013, 10:20:06 PM
Advertise said that The Stick is shaped like Mark's favourite guitar, but nothing about the colour :)
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Lis on October 04, 2013, 10:30:28 PM
Oooohh!  ...I will buy the blue one now for sure!!!  ;)  Thanks yontwocrows!!!  :wave
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Jarle on October 04, 2013, 11:10:48 PM
Love this one:

(http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/MK_guitars_fender09b.jpg)

 :)
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Lis on October 04, 2013, 11:35:36 PM
... ... and thank you, Jarle!!  ;)
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Pottel on October 05, 2013, 01:38:41 AM
(http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/MK_guitars_fernandes3.jpg)
 :clap

wow, nice pic, that i, for one, never saw before...thnx!!
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: sweetsurrender on October 05, 2013, 05:55:25 AM
"Can't get no fancy notes on my blue guitar" . . .
Yeah, blue is odd, but I'll get one.

 :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

What song is that from. It bothers me now I can't recall it.  >:(
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: sweetsurrender on October 05, 2013, 05:58:39 AM
Oooohh!  ...I will buy the blue one now for sure!!!  ;)  Thanks yontwocrows!!!  :wave

me too.  After all those pics of Mark with the blue guitar.   ;)

I think blue is nice after all I already have red.  :)
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: sweetsurrender on October 05, 2013, 05:59:38 AM
(http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/MK_guitars_fernandes3.jpg)
 :clap

wow, nice pic, that i, for one, never saw before...thnx!!

neither have I.
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Love Expresso on October 05, 2013, 07:54:50 AM
"Can't get no fancy notes on my blue guitar" . . .
Yeah, blue is odd, but I'll get one.
What song is that from. It bothers me now I can't recall it.  >:(

One World, sweetsurrender.

LE
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 05, 2013, 09:28:02 AM
Gonna have to order at least one of these unique Blue Strats but will wait until the set lists materialise.....

Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: yontwocrows on October 05, 2013, 11:04:27 AM
They can paint the sticks in whatever colour they want and I'm sure Mark has played a guitar in that colour  ;)
But more important is the content of the sticks not their colour, let's hope the band is on fire.
Btw the blue guitar i posted was used on some stuff of the LOG Album, i suppose the picture is from that period. The fabulous Ingo has written something about it here : http://www.mk-guitar.com/2008/09/29/japanese-vintage-guitars-the-situation-in-the-late-70ies-early-80ies/ (http://www.mk-guitar.com/2008/09/29/japanese-vintage-guitars-the-situation-in-the-late-70ies-early-80ies/)
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: dmg on October 05, 2013, 12:03:23 PM
Gonna have to order at least one of these unique Blue Strats but will wait until the set lists materialise.....

The marketing folk will love hearing this!
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: dmg on October 05, 2013, 12:06:05 PM
They can paint the sticks in whatever colour they want and I'm sure Mark has played a guitar in that colour  ;)
But more important is the content of the sticks not their colour, let's hope the band is on fire.
Btw the blue guitar i posted was used on some stuff of the LOG Album, i suppose the picture is from that period. The fabulous Ingo has written something about it here : http://www.mk-guitar.com/2008/09/29/japanese-vintage-guitars-the-situation-in-the-late-70ies-early-80ies/ (http://www.mk-guitar.com/2008/09/29/japanese-vintage-guitars-the-situation-in-the-late-70ies-early-80ies/)

It's perhaps supposed to represent the new blue Pensa but they only have one design, hence the blue Strat design. ???
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 05, 2013, 12:13:07 PM
Gonna have to order at least one of these unique Blue Strats but will wait until the set lists materialise.....

The marketing folk will love hearing this!

And looking forward to hearing the content on it!!! ;)
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: yontwocrows on October 05, 2013, 01:19:19 PM
They can paint the sticks in whatever colour they want and I'm sure Mark has played a guitar in that colour  ;)
But more important is the content of the sticks not their colour, let's hope the band is on fire.
Btw b
'the blue guitar i posted was used on some stuff of the LOG Album, i suppose the picture is from that period. The fabulous Ingo has written something about it here : http://www.mk-guitar.com/2008/09/29/japanese-vintage-guitars-the-situation-in-the-late-70ies-early-80ies/ (http://www.mk-guitar.com/2008/09/29/japanese-vintage-guitars-the-situation-in-the-late-70ies-early-80ies/)

It's perhaps supposed to represent the new blue Pensa but they only have one design, hence the blue Strat design. ???

Yes, changing the shape would be far too expensive. I think the marketing guys don't think deelpy about it, but I love the blue Pensa. First i was irritated by the colour, but you can't get it out of your head. Its a very attractive one, isn't it?
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Ingo on October 05, 2013, 02:30:44 PM
(http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/MK_guitars_fernandes3.jpg)
 :clap

wow, nice pic, that i, for one, never saw before...thnx!!

neither have I.

That's a blue Fernandez with Seymour Duncan pickups. Mark used it around the time of Love over Gold, I think on Infidels (e.g. "I and I" ?)  and Local Hero (e.g. "Smooching"??). John Suhr once told me that some of his favourite MK guitar sounds were played with that guitar.
(BTW, you will soon find an almost identical guitar (a "Blackie" ) in my MK guitar shop at http://mk-guitar.com/shop/)

Mark always liked blue guitars (the blue Schecter Dream Machine that Hal Lindes played on stage was also his), and I heard that he wanted his Fender signature Strat to be available in hot rod red and sonic blue (which Fender did not want for some reason).

Blue guitars are great, but I personally don't like the blue USB stick, the red one looks much more detailed and realistic, and simply better (just my 2c)


Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: yontwocrows on October 05, 2013, 03:24:14 PM
b
Blue guitars are great, but I personally don't like the blue USB stick, the red one looks much more detailed and realistic, and simply better (just my 2c)

I prefer also the red one. i would love to have a National-guitar-usb stick, a pensa mk and a gibson one.  ;D
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 05, 2013, 05:59:50 PM
They can paint the sticks in whatever colour they want and I'm sure Mark has played a guitar in that colour  ;)
But more important is the content of the sticks not their colour, let's hope the band is on fire.
Btw b
'the blue guitar i posted was used on some stuff of the LOG Album, i suppose the picture is from that period. The fabulous Ingo has written something about it here : http://www.mk-guitar.com/2008/09/29/japanese-vintage-guitars-the-situation-in-the-late-70ies-early-80ies/ (http://www.mk-guitar.com/2008/09/29/japanese-vintage-guitars-the-situation-in-the-late-70ies-early-80ies/)

It's perhaps supposed to represent the new blue Pensa but they only have one design, hence the blue Strat design. ???
Yes, changing the shape would be far too expensive. I think the marketing guys don't think deelpy about it, but I love the blue Pensa. First i was irritated by the colour, but you can't get it out of your head. Its a very attractive one, isn't it?


Ah the Blue Pensa! I think straight away of the 2nd night at the RAH when the Blue Pensa came out in readiness for 'KOG' and boy did it look and sound the part. I'm a Strat man as you all know but boy that Pensa is something else.....Blue or Brown!!
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: knopfling on October 05, 2013, 07:27:27 PM
SWEETSURRENDER, "can't get no fancy notes on my blue guitar" is from "One World" on BIA. "Can't get no antidote for blue ooh oohs."
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: JF on October 05, 2013, 10:11:06 PM
I believe he also played a blue mex strat at the 2002 gigs.

Ingo was faster than me about the fernandes.  ;)

I have this pic in a french magazine from around late 80ies
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: sweetsurrender on October 06, 2013, 05:17:11 AM
"Can't get no fancy notes on my blue guitar" . . .
Yeah, blue is odd, but I'll get one.
What song is that from. It bothers me now I can't recall it.  >:(

One World, sweetsurrender.

Thanks LE and knopfling.  I've been humming the notes, but never got to the part One  World. !  :)

LE
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Ingo on November 18, 2013, 04:40:10 PM
(http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/MK_guitars_fernandes3.jpg)
 :clap

A similar Fernandes 57 vintage Strat is available in my online shop: http://mk-guitar.com/shop/fernandes-revival-japanese-vintage-strat-p-103.html. Don't miss a great chance to acquire an affordable true vintage guitar of great quality with a really sweet sound (listen to Smooching (?), Jokerman (?); I and I (?)...).
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: JF on November 18, 2013, 10:26:45 PM
Ah yes smooching.....one of my top tones ! I love this tune, and this sound...gorgeous !
I always thought it was the red schecter....
same for for jokerman, and I don't know why but I and I was the sunburst schecter in my head....
so you think that it could be this fernandes ?
I can't remember if it can't be seen in  the background of the studio during the Indidels sessions (video clips for example ) ?  :think
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Ingo on November 20, 2013, 12:12:22 PM
Ah yes smooching.....one of my top tones ! I love this tune, and this sound...gorgeous !
I always thought it was the red schecter....
same for for jokerman, and I don't know why but I and I was the sunburst schecter in my head....
so you think that it could be this fernandes ?
I can't remember if it can't be seen in  the background of the studio during the Indidels sessions (video clips for example ) ?  :think

Of course you can never be sure about which guitar was played on which track unless it is confirmed in some way.

Years ago John Suhr told me that he regularly was in the studio to service Mark's guitars when they recorded in New York (1982/83: Love over Gold, Local Hero, Infidels. The Fernandes can be seen on the picture with all guitars during LoG recording at the Power Station studio), and he told me that for him Mark got some of his nicest sounds on the Fernandes with Seymour Duncan pickups.

I think all the Japanese vintage Strats from the era sound extremely warm and have a different tone from e.g. the Schecters. And the songs mentioned sound rather "Japanese" to me but of course I can be wrong.

Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Ingo on November 22, 2013, 09:48:49 AM
You can listen to the sound of the Fernandes in these two videos:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBW3dUGHAU8

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPtFkylLtPU

It has a unique tone, a different kind of "sustain" (e.g. in the second video with all clear sounds) something I believe to hear in Jokerman and I & I, and such.
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: yontwocrows on November 22, 2013, 11:01:01 AM
Wow, great sound!
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: JF on November 22, 2013, 12:44:21 PM
great !  :thumbsup
gorgeous tone
I love the first one
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: Ingo on November 22, 2013, 02:01:06 PM
Yeah, the nice distortion comes from the Hotcake (Mark will know why he uses this one...)
It does not cut treble/bass and boost mids like other overdrives, and might seem less creamy for this reason, but in fact it is great to add all kind of subtle distortion as the clean sound is not compromised. And when you turn up the gain, there is a lot of distortion, more than with a typical tube screamer.
Title: Re: New Stick for the US tour...
Post by: sweetsurrender on November 22, 2013, 03:22:23 PM
Really really nice.  I LOVE it !!!! :thumbsup :thumbsup :clap :clap :clap :clap

Almost sound like MK.