A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Jarle on October 15, 2013, 07:26:40 PM
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Hi, everyone!
I have finally reached the point where I have decided to buy Marks's Signature Stratocaster, but know I understand that this guitar is out of production :-\ I have e-mailed all the guitar shops that I know of in Norway, but it seems to be completely sold out all over the country. My plan was always to buy a new one, but I understand that it's more likely to get hold on a used one now since it has been discontinued by Fender. So, the question is: Does anyone now where I should look for this guitar? Preferably new, but it is okey with a used one if it's in in great shape...
Jarle :)
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Check out eBay. If you find seller with MK Strat and many photos of it
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See how this seller described the CASE, not even guitar:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Vintage-Fender-Stratocaster-Mark-Knopfler-USA-guitar-case-NEW-telecaster-/300987063569?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item46143a1d11
I constantly check eBay on MK items, so if i stumble upon MK Strat I'll write to you, Jarle!
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Thank you, Foma! Very nice of you :) As you say there are few, if any, MK Strat's on the marked these days...
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There was a Strat with something about 100 photos disassembled, with ammeter and even weighing-machine. Detailed as hell.
I bought around 10 guitars from eBay living in Russia so you will not have any problem at all. MK forgot my country, but not Norway anyway :D
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All three of mine came from ebay!! One of the most important things is that you check that the serial number 'hang tag' is present with the 'case candy' that way you know its NOT a fake or a made up special!!
The MK Strat is a delight and IMHO well worth the money!! Mind you there is no way in the world you are having one of mine!!! ;)
Yes the guitar is now discontinued and you are most likely now to get one second hand but my local guitar shop (Authorised Fender dealer) still advertises the MK - Maybe worth a phone call:
http://guitarmania.vstore.ca/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/2/products_id/417/osCsid=530606d3a66b659ceba261cbc5626a01
They have serviced all three of mine and are now experts on my MK Strat set-up!!
If you require any more info or unsure please pm me....
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There's a Finnish guitarstore called Kitarapaja (probably the most famous Finnish guitar store) which seems to have a new one in store:
http://www.kitarapaja.com/usvi.htm (http://www.kitarapaja.com/usvi.htm) (Just scroll down a bit and the MK Strat is listed there)
I think they will ship to Norway...
EDIT: Seems they have two listed, just search for it.
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They are a tad expensive me thinks.....
They equate to some
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Thank you everyone for your replies. You are all very helpful :) The two in Finland looks interesting. The used one is, according to the seller, as good as new. The price is a bit high, especially since I have to pay 25% taxes on the top of the listed price to get it over the border to Norway, and that's quite a lot. However, when it was available in Norway the list price for a new MK Strat was actually around 2000
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Just splash the cash - you only live once!!!!! ;)
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Just splash the cash - you only live once!!!!! ;)
I like it ;) So maybe I will... It often takes a lot of time to make a decision at this point, with many hours on the web, and since time is money I should just buy the expensive one now, and stop looking for something a bit cheaper :)
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A nice one is availabe here:
http://mk-guitar.com/shop/fender-mark-knopfler-signature-stratocaster-p-101.html
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All three of mine came from ebay!! One of the most important things is that you check that the serial number 'hang tag' is present with the 'case candy' that way you know its NOT a fake or a made up special!!
I wonder why someone buy three guitars that are exactly the same, same body, same neck, same pickups etc etc, and they have to be the same as MK requested that his replica has to follow his instructions...
A friend of mine bought the MK guitar and after play it, he detected many fails, sold it, and built one by himself improved. Obviously the fails were things that he didnt like it when playing that obviously MK liked...
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All three of mine came from ebay!! One of the most important things is that you check that the serial number 'hang tag' is present with the 'case candy' that way you know its NOT a fake or a made up special!!
I wonder why someone buy three guitars that are exactly the same, same body, same neck, same pickups etc etc, and they have to be the same as MK requested that his replica has to follow his instructions...
A friend of mine bought the MK guitar and after play it, he detected many fails, sold it, and built one by himself improved. Obviously the fails were things that he didnt like it when playing that obviously MK liked...
Serial Numbers !! Limited edition....Btw, I think everyone is free to collect whatever he /she wants ! ;D ;D
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....Btw, I think everyone is free to collect whatever he /she wants ! ;D ;D
Especially if it is MK-related! ;D :thumbsup
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All three of mine came from ebay!! One of the most important things is that you check that the serial number 'hang tag' is present with the 'case candy' that way you know its NOT a fake or a made up special!!
I wonder why someone buy three guitars that are exactly the same, same body, same neck, same pickups etc etc, and they have to be the same as MK requested that his replica has to follow his instructions...
A friend of mine bought the MK guitar and after play it, he detected many fails, sold it, and built one by himself improved. Obviously the fails were things that he didnt like it when playing that obviously MK liked...
Serial Numbers !! Limited edition....Btw, I think everyone is free to collect whatever he /she wants ! ;D ;D
Oh yes, if its because of that... I never thought about buy three very expensive guitars that are the same just for the numbers in the back ;D
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All three of mine came from ebay!! One of the most important things is that you check that the serial number 'hang tag' is present with the 'case candy' that way you know its NOT a fake or a made up special!!
I wonder why someone buy three guitars that are exactly the same, same body, same neck, same pickups etc etc, and they have to be the same as MK requested that his replica has to follow his instructions...
A friend of mine bought the MK guitar and after play it, he detected many fails, sold it, and built one by himself improved. Obviously the fails were things that he didnt like it when playing that obviously MK liked...
Serial Numbers !! Limited edition....Btw, I think everyone is free to collect whatever he /she wants ! ;D ;D
Oh yes, if its because of that... I never thought about buy three very expensive guitars that are the same just for the numbers in the back ;D
But again? Why not :hmm? If people feel like doing this, it's their choice ! Whatever the price, everyone does what he/she wants with his/her money !
Also all MK Strat weren't made the same year... When your a real collector you need to have a piece of them all :)
I've heard that some even don't have the initial paint , it's a mistake of manufacturing, can be collector too !
And I've been asked to sell mine just for its serial number... BUT it is not for sale :D
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100% agree with jbaent
If I had 2000
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All three of mine came from ebay!! One of the most important things is that you check that the serial number 'hang tag' is present with the 'case candy' that way you know its NOT a fake or a made up special!!
I wonder why someone buy three guitars that are exactly the same, same body, same neck, same pickups etc etc, and they have to be the same as MK requested that his replica has to follow his instructions...
A friend of mine bought the MK guitar and after play it, he detected many fails, sold it, and built one by himself improved. Obviously the fails were things that he didnt like it when playing that obviously MK liked...
Serial Numbers !! Limited edition....Btw, I think everyone is free to collect whatever he /she wants ! ;D ;D
Oh yes, if its because of that... I never thought about buy three very expensive guitars that are the same just for the numbers in the back ;D
But again? Why not :hmm? If people feel like doing this, it's their choice ! Whatever the price, everyone does what he/she wants with his/her money !
Also all MK Strat weren't made the same year... When your a real collector you need to have a piece of them all :)
I've heard that some even don't have the initial paint , it's a mistake of manufacturing, can be collector too !
And I've been asked to sell mine just for its serial number... BUT it is not for sale :D
I agree! To me, the MK Strat is the ultimate Knopfler collectors item...
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Mark uses MK Strat a lot nowadays, not to just advertise it I suppose. It's a great guitar. The main thing in Strat is the neck anyway, and MK Strat neck is more than GORGEOUS, it's just phenomenal. Frets, woods and radius choices... mmm. It plays itself. I think even better to buy just the neck (it available on eBay from time to time) and assemble the rest by your choices. RegardIng Serial... pfff, you can't play music on serial number! :)
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The main thing in Strat is the neck anyway
totally agree, so why buy specially a MK strat ? just for Mark's signature on the headstock ?
If you are going to change other parts (body, PU, bridge...) I don't see the point to buy especially THIS neck, or THIS strat.
You can buy another neck, that will we be as gorgeous as you want, even cheaper than this one, and add other specs you want to fit YOUR playing, YOUR tone, YOUR sound, in order to build YOUR guitar
IMHO your guitar has to be with your own specs, not with your idol's specs (that are not his orignals ones anyway)
precision : I'm not talking to somebody in particular, I am saying this in general, I just quoted Foma's sentence as I think it's the point about a strat :)
just my 2 cents of course, and yes everybody can spend his money like he wants ;D
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A nice one is availabe here:
http://mk-guitar.com/shop/fender-mark-knopfler-signature-stratocaster-p-101.html
Thanks, Ingo! Looks really nice! It's in the pool of guitars to consider :)
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Woah, up to me what i spend my cash on isnt it. Dont be jealous it wont get you anywhere >:( for a start one of mine my brother plays and the other two are set up completely differently! I am really pleased with them and I can confirm those including myself who have played them wouldnt want any other strat!! Each to their own at the end of the day.... No need to be rude on here about my pride and joys. Having the cash to invest in these fine guitars seemed the logical thing to do and is. All registration hang tags hand signed make these priceless to me...
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Woah, up to me what i spend my cash on isnt it. Dont be jealous it wont get you anywhere >:( for a start one of mine my brother plays and the other two are set up completely differently! I am really pleased with them and I can confirm those including myself who have played them wouldnt want any other strat!! Each to their own at the end of the day.... No need to be rude on here about my pride and joys. Having the cash to invest in these fine guitars seemed the logical thing to do and is. All registration hang tags hand signed make these priceless to me...
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I understand you being upset, thought about posting something like "hey you guys are talking about a dear member here, please be aware of that."
I guess it went away with them. Surely no offense meant, Knopflerfan! I like your attitude btw.
LE
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Woah, up to me what i spend my cash on isnt it. Dont be jealous it wont get you anywhere >:( for a start one of mine my brother plays and the other two are set up completely differently! I am really pleased with them and I can confirm those including myself who have played them wouldnt want any other strat!! Each to their own at the end of the day.... No need to be rude on here about my pride and joys. Having the cash to invest in these fine guitars seemed the logical thing to do and is. All registration hang tags hand signed make these priceless to me...
Hey Knopflerfan! If your three strats make you happy, then why not splash out, if you can afford them! :thumbsup Myself, I have a less expensive fetish - Menorcan sandals! At the moment I have twelve pairs in different colours and they make me very happy! ;D
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No need to be rude on here about my pride and joys.
Yeah, I'll keep in mind the words 'Hang tags' for all my life now :D Jealous is not good, but too much pride is not good too, that's it.
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In football, that's called "put the boot in", foma... :(
LE
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Sorry, I'm a pretty straightforward man. But let's face it... anyway, take my deep apologies, Knopflerfan. I'm a pretty daffy sometimes.
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My feeling is that what people do with their money is their own affair and if it makes them happy, well that's OK, so long as they can afford it. If Knopflerfan is happy with his strats, then I'm happy for him too! :)
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Well thanks indeed to LE, Superval & Knopflerized - you guys know how much my MK's mean to me. Im angry that a few have taken acception to my owning of three of then and I actually think now 'MYOB'!!!
And actually thinking more about the 'three the same' argument - well they look the same - granted but due to differences in age and also wood they all sound different un their own way. Anyway I love them to bits and my late father was ever so pleased I bought them as he knew how much an influence MK is on my life. I hope that your own wish should it be for an MK strat be fulfilled.
I will not let a 'minority' ruin my owning of three of MKs finest or even my happy memories of meeting MK some three weeks ago!!!
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By the way JF, the guitar WAS made to MKs spec - I have the original article with the 'pioneer' MK strat well before Mark put his signature on it..... Dont you think that I bought my three guitars as investments too?? Boy they will be worth something in years to come more than a made up special....
And I can enjoy them too!! Wooohoooo!!
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Do you know this is the first time I have ever encountered any ill feeling on here and it is all centering on basically jealousy. Im afraid Im not like that. I was brought up by a lovely mother and father - both sadly passed (Im only 38!) now if I learnt that someone had got 3 of something I would be pleased for them, I would not even dare ask why because its NOT my business! Now I am offended to think some so called MK fan has the audacity to question my owning of three MK strats!! By the way Mark himself on knowing that I own three didnt ask me Why??? Rant over and onwards and upwards with other more interesting chat!! I am not happy guys...
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By the way Mark himself on knowing that I own three didnt ask me Why???
In many ways this is the coolest sentence I have read here in a long time! :thumbsup
LE
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Just put my "A Life in Songs" DVD in - so recreative and really calming to hear Mark speaking and immerse into the story of the life of this great living artist. Especially on a rainy quiet Saturday night... have no problems to let this DVD run two times in a row... ;)
LE
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Do you know this is the first time I have ever encountered any ill feeling on here and it is all centering on basically jealousy. Im afraid Im not like that. I was brought up by a lovely mother and father - both sadly passed (Im only 38!) now if I learnt that someone had got 3 of something I would be pleased for them, I would not even dare ask why because its NOT my business! Now I am offended to think some so called MK fan has the audacity to question my owning of three MK strats!! By the way Mark himself on knowing that I own three didnt ask me Why??? Rant over and onwards and upwards with other more interesting chat!! I am not happy guys...
Good for you ! I've only got one MK strat, but I have a custom built copy of Mark's MK1 Pensa Suhr, plus 2 other "standard" Fender strats that are "copies" of Marks guitars. (plus others). If you want 3 (or more) as a fan, or just as an investment, it's nothing to do with anyone else.
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I fully agree, Knopflerfan! I actually know people who collects stamps and napkins, but no one questions that :P As i mentioned earlier, I think the MK Strat is the ultimate Knopfler collectors item, and if I had the space and money to own all of them, well, then why not :) Mark has played it a lot on stage, it is set up after his specs, it got the right color and it got his signature. Did I mention that it sounds stunning too? In my ears, anyway... I think it is one of the most beauiful guitars out there, I when I get one it will surely hang on the wall in my living room (when not played) :)
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If we are following the "find your own sound and don't play a guitar with somebody else's name on it" argument through to its logical conclusion, MK will need to get rid of His Les Pauls. He also owns more than one of these red signature models, 58,59,reissue etc.
If you are reading Mark, I'll give them a good home.
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If we are following the "find your own sound and don't play a guitar with somebody else's name on it" argument through to its logical conclusion, MK will need to get rid of His Les Pauls. He also owns more than one of these red signature models, 58,59,reissue etc.
If you are reading Mark, I'll give them a good home.
Ah, but that would not be the dustyvalentino sound then, would it? ;D
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I am amazed about how wildly some people interpretate others words... Nothing to say, very afraid about more wild overreactions :o
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Ouch !!!! :o :o :o
100% agree with Jbaent. I don't understand what was said that could be understood as offensive, insulting, agressive ?
Sorry Knopflerfan if you felt offended by my posts, but I was just giving MY point of view.
I am not jealous of anyone
I am not jealous of anything
Am I allowed to say that TO ME a fender MK sig model is not the holy grail ? that its not the ultimate collector item FOR ME ?
That I would prefer to have an old strat rather than a sig model ?
I thought that adding the IMHO acronym in a post was enough to precise that a post was "in MY opinion"
and adding "just my 2 cents" was confirming this meaning, I believe
If I can't express my opinion without being suspected to offend someone, I don't really understand the interest of a forum.
I hope it doesn't have any relation with the fact I missed your post about the bridport event, but I responded to you and explained that it was moved in "spam" folder by gmail, and that I realised this just a week later or so.
Now, speaking about the guitar, yes you are right, I know that the sig model was build according to Mark's specs, but it was his specs in 2002-2003, and what disapointed me is that he didn't try to find his early sound again. I far prefer his tone from 77-79 than his tone from the last decade, but of course it's a matter of taste, and it's my taste. So I believe that with the sig model you can approach his tone from late years, but hardly his tone from early years, like Ingo with his self-made strat.
@ Dusty, I think you can't compare a LP build in 58 or 59 (like the ones Mark plays) with a sig model build in series nowadays.
Yes Marks is playing a Les Paul, but a vintage Les Paul, not a Gary Moore, or Peter green or whatever sig model.
Must I add that its' JUST MY OPINION ? ::)
Sorry again if I offended anyone, if I felt jealous, arrogant, or whatever, that was of course not my intention.
But the strange thing is I don't see clearly what I must apologise ... ??? :hmm
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You seem to be missing my point... EVERY Les Paul is a "signature model", but MK did his own thing with it.
Same with the Gibson Chet Atkins he played in the 80s, he didn't play Chet Atkins style.
My point is, it's perfectly possible to find your own sound with a guitar built to someone else's specs. MK did it. Maybe knopflerfan is doing it to. Who is to say that he is sitting round copying MK?
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Ah yes Dusty I see your point :wave
EVERY Les Paul is a "signature model"
I admit I never saw things under this angle (sorry not sure about the english expression), but you are right, we can say that a Les Paul is a Les Paul's signature guitar.
But, I'd say that the Les Paul has become a "common" guitar in music industry and in rock history.
Of course the model has been build with les Paul's specs, but over the years it has been "transcended" by differents guitarists and different styles in order to become an iconic guitar in rock history, while in the main time it ditched the Les Paul's bequeaths.
I think that when you see or hear a Les Paul in many rock-blues-hard styles, you don't think at first ": ah yes it's the guitar "invented" by Les Paul"
the difference with a (recent) "signature" model, is that it immediately make you think to the guitarist after the guitar is named
I am not sure that Clapton or Gilmour fans would buy a malmsteen strat signature....I would find this a little bit strange, don't you think ? Even if theorotically, it could fit
Of course you can play any music style on malmsteen or beck or SRV signature.
But if you see a guitarist with an artist's signature, there is a high probability that his style is "near" the artist's style
While a Les Paul guitar player isn't automatically associated with les Paul's style, because this guitar has "over crossed" or "exceeded" the reference to Les Paul, I believe.
Sorry for my poor english....hope you get what I mean
oh, and how would you name a clapton-harrison, or a Allman, or a slash LP signature model ? a "signature's signature" model ? ;)
you are totally right about the CA model
and my post wasn't intended to talk about Knopfler Fan's style, I just wanted to talk about technical specs giving the tone (wood, PU, etc...) :)
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Knopflerfan, I think you said it well . I know what those 3 mean to you. They are your babies.
People pay respect to someone else. And about your own tune. Most people buy a guitar that suits them, and don't build one themselves. So by saying people have to do so instead of buying a guitar (signature or not) is a disqualification of a lot of people including famous artists. And I agree with Knopflerfan: it looks like jealous reactions.
If you don't understand when people do something, try to understand, don't qualify. How often do you think people ask me why so often to the same concert? Instead of trying to explain I say nowadays: do you throw away a CD after listening once?
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As you were talking about Les Paul. As far as I know Leo Fender never played the guitar.
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Ingrid, when I said that I dont understand why someone buy the same exact guitar three time, there was no jelousy at all in my phrase. I dont play guitar, I dont have any guitar, and I dont want to buy a guitar no matter if its a MK signature or he the on MK played it, its a nonsense to me having a guitar because its totally useless to me, even as a collector item, its too expensive to be considered FOR ME, so even for a MK fan, FOR ME, looks like little sense having the exact same guitar three times. If I can
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I understand you jbaent. I would kill someone (JOKE) to have a MK Fender, but I am not jealous at all if Knopflerfan has three of them. I' m happy for him that he has those guitars, because they're utterly great and sound wonderful. Just all opinions, and I couldn't make anything of jealousy out of all the post there have been posted. So eaaaasyy ladies and gents! After all we're a group of big fans who respect each other very much, although one has a different opinion on things and that's ok I think!!
:)
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I understand you jbaent. I would kill someone (JOKE) to have a MK Fender, but I am not jealous at all if Knopflerfan has three of them. I' m happy for him that he has those guitars, because they're utterly great and sound wonderful. Just all opinions, and I couldn't make anything of jealousy out of all the post there have been posted. So eaaaasyy ladies and gents! After all we're a group of big fans who respect each other very much, although one has a different opinion on things and that's ok I think!!
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And apparently with a very wild way of interpretate others thoughts.
WOW, am I so amazed...
Ps: Before someone puts into my mind and sees jelousy again, go and buy glasses. Its dissapointed, and upset what I feel, no jealousy. But if it works for you, good for you.
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Anyway, I wonder how Jarle is getting on in locating one... :think By the sound of things Knopflerfan's bought them all and there's none left! ;)
Seriously though, any updates on that Jarle? Hope you've not been put off buying one!
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Back to more important issues:
Yes the guitar is now discontinued so second hand will be the only way for Jarle.
Any luck Jarle?...
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Back to more important issues:
Yes the guitar is now discontinued so second hand will be the only way for Jarle.
Any luck Jarle?...
Well, not yet... It's an ongoing project. I am still hoping to get hold of a new one. A friend of mine who lives in Denmark contacted his local guitar store for me, and they actually said that they could deliver a new guitar within a week. I don't know why, but I guess they must have some left. If this is true I guess it is great, but I am arguing a bit over the price with myself and we haven't reached an agreement yet :P If I buy a new one in Denmark and takes it home to Norway it will end up costing me about 2500
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I'm sure we will all keep a look out for you too......
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I'm sure we will all keep a look out for you too......
That is very kind of you :)
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I don't think jbaent is jealous, I just think he can't understand why somebody would buy 3 of the "same" guitar.
Just like "normal" people can't understand why we would go and see MK play the "same" show multiple times. :)
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if one of my post (I think #20) was understood as telling someone to "build his guitar instead of buying one" (like Ingrid said), well it was totally misunderstood
my intention was never to tell anyone what to do
I was just answering to Foma, about the fact that the neck is the most important thing in an electric guitar, specially on a strat (more than on a LP where the body influences more the sound I believe), and that build a guitar (for people who want to) could be a solution.
It was an alternative, a proposition, not an obligation. I thought it was clear, obvious, but it seems not...(sorry, but I find justifications sometimes a little bit surrealistic.... : ???)
I didn't build my guitar neither. But as Foma was talking about assembling the neck with other parts, I just added some points of view about neck and guitar parts....
BTW, even if Mark didn't build his guitar in early days, he modified it quite a lot regarding PU, rotary switch, etc... more infos on Ingo's blog for peole interested
and sorry to repeat it again, but I'm not jealous either :)
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Moving on.......
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There's no MK strats on the eBay yet.
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Moving on.......
Not even close. I received a nice private message from someone telling me a good reason to have three Mk signature guitars that makes sense for an ignorant like me, and that is funny at the same time:
1st guitar, the one designed by Mk, by his specifications
2nd guitar, the one painted in the wrong red colour, that makes it different
3rd guitar, same as the first, but changing the Texas Special for Linsay Fralin pick ups to amend Mk mistake when choosing the pickups ;D
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I don't think jbaent is jealous, I just think he can't understand why somebody would buy 3 of the "same" guitar.
Just like "normal" people can't understand why we would go and see MK play the "same" show multiple times. :)
This has a very simple explanation. Its not the same show, specially this tour with the setlists changes, but really because attending multiple shows means travel, and means visiting different cities and meeting great people like Dmg and Dusty in Glasgow, Ingrid in Newcastle, Tunnel85, Dutchessy, Marijn etc in London. There are so many factors that makes every concert different that makes it impossible, for us, Knopfler fans, to compare it with the reason why someone buys three same guitars, which was explained to me by pm by someone from this Forum (see my previous post)
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Don't keep on!! We all know you don't want three MK's - well I do and have.
This is for Jarle as he wants one!
My three are all different in their own little way!!
1st MK Strat: Made in the first batch, quite heavy, it has a 'three figure' serial number and plays beautifully (Fender dealers who serviced this have not seen a finer strat!) 9's fitted to this and it is used mainly for Hank Marvin/Shadows numbers.....
2nd MK Strat: Made two years later than 1st, still three figure serial number and is a lot lighter than the 1st MK, which indicates a difference in wood. (Has 10's fitted to this and used for MK/my own material)
3rd MK Strat: Made four years later than the 1st MK, and has a four figure serial number. again this strat is heavy but has such a solid/warm sound - 10s fitted to this one and my Bro looks after this one!! ;)
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The fact that I dont want three Mk guitars doesn't mean that its not interesting to me, which is what motivated my first post about it, why you bought the three. Funny that it took so many posts and fights to know.
Its also strange that some are lighter than the others. If the guitar was designed under Mk specifications, the woods etc has to be the same, if they change from one batch to the next of guitars, then they are not following the exact specifications from Mk, because well, Im ignorant but I guess that same pieces of the same wood must weight the same. Doesn't it?
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I reckon it depends on the type of wood it is made of? Im wondering if the first two are made of different types only the original batch one is really heavy espeically compared to the year older one.....
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Thats what I mean with the Mk specifications. As far as I.know, Mk chosed certain type of wood for the body, another one for the neck, and I think other wood for the headstock. That means that all guitars produced have to be made following that specifications. Unless they ran out of that woods and used others. I hope Mk approved that changes if the woods are not the same.
However if they changed the woods its not fair. Every person that buy a Mk signature, deserves to have the same guitar, made the same way, with the same specifications. Thats why the signature models are made (apart of make the fans to spend money that they wont if the signatures are not made)
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Jarle, its in spanish but here you have one http://www.musicalalbeniz.es/product.php?id_product=1400
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All of the MK strats have an Ash body and a Maple neck with a Rosewood fingerboard. It is a known fact that different guitar bodies, cut to the same size, out of the same species of wood, can vary in weight. (and Ash comes in different varieties!) On some guitar forums ( specifically the Les Paul Forum) it is a major talking point as Les Pauls are comparatively heavy guitars and the lighter ones are valued by players with bad backs who have to stand & play them for extended periods. ( There is also another argument about whether the tone of lighter guitars is better or worse than heavier guitars!!)
You might think with an electric guitar it's all in the pickups, but some very knowledgeable people say that the wood the guitar is made of will also affect the sound it produces. Knopflerfan clearly can tell the differences between his 3 MK Strats.
I have 3 quite different Strats: The MK sig model strung with 9's, A late 1980's (Made in Japan) Fender Strat with a Basswood body & maple neck/fingerboard, strung with 9's, and a (Made in Mexico) Fender Classic Player 50's Strat with an Alder body & Maple neck/fingerboard, strung with 10's and with the tremolo operational. the different pickups & wood combinations make them noticeably different flavours of "Strat"
- I use the MK model for solo material, the Japanese model with "Tonerider Pure vintage" pickups for early Dire Straits, & the Mexican model which has 50's "voiced" pickups for things which Mark has used his '54 Strat on or a tremolo is needed. ( Shangri La or So Far Away etc).
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Hmm, interesting. Despite not playing guitar, I like a lot all this things about woods, strings, pickups etc
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Well put 3strats, yes they are Ash. They may all look the same but thanks mainly to the wood properties they all sound slightly different - some warmer than others if you know what I mean??! Oh, the tone on the MK strat is awesome!!! And I love em!!
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Well put 3strats, yes they are Ash. They may all look the same but thanks mainly to the wood properties they all sound slightly different - some warmer than others if you know what I mean??! Oh, the tone on the MK strat is awesome!!! And I love em!!
You should send me one, as a gift, I can send you my address ;D ;D
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MK himself said when they came out that the weight can vary a lot (I think it was in the review in Guitarist magazine). Mine is a very early one (received Sept 03), had the wrong colour and is very light.
When they came out they said they were "swamp ash".
Another way to use three of them would be top have them set the same as MK.
1. Light strings, no tremolo arm, as used on Sultans, if we ever hear it again.
2. Heavy strings, tremors as used on Postcards.
3. Lipstick pickups, as used on Forever Young with Mr Bob.
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The one with lipsticks pickups was also a Mk signature? I always thought it was a regular Strat, not the Mk nor the vintages ones...
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http://www.mk-guitar.com/2012/01/24/mark-knopfler-signature-strat-with-lipstick-pickups-played-on-forever-young-duet-with-bob-dylan/
Sig according to Ingo, and he is usually correct!
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http://www.mk-guitar.com/2012/01/24/mark-knopfler-signature-strat-with-lipstick-pickups-played-on-forever-young-duet-with-bob-dylan/
Sig according to Ingo, and he is usually correct!
If Ingo says that, no discussion then ;)
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Where to WIN a Fender Stratocaster signed by Mark Knopfler
Good Luck all!
(U.S. addresses only, sorry) to avcontests@theonion.com for a chance to win. ARV of the guitar is $800, but the autograph is priceless. Contest ends Nov. 1, 2013; winner will be contacted by e-mail on or about Nov. 2, 2013.
http://www.avclub.com/articles/enter-to-win-a-fender-stratocaster-signed-by-dire,104613/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=Default:1:Default
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Some in the states, here is an early one.
http://www.gbase.com/gear/fender-stratocaster-2003-red
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Hmm, interesting. Despite not playing guitar, I like a lot all this things about woods, strings, pickups etc
if you are interested in this kind of things, you should take a look regularly at Ingo's blog :wave
there's a lot of informations about differents woods, different PUs combinations, wiring, differences for PU between years, decades, etc..
for example he made a test by removing the color finish, and found that it affected the sound :
http://www.mk-guitar.com/2009/01/02/guitar-refinishing-nitro-vs-poly-and-how-to-remove-a-polyester-finish/ (http://www.mk-guitar.com/2009/01/02/guitar-refinishing-nitro-vs-poly-and-how-to-remove-a-polyester-finish/)
or the different fender colors :
http://www.mk-guitar.com/2009/01/06/red-redder-the-reddest-fiesta-dakota-candy-apple-hot-rod-and-more-fender-colours/ (http://www.mk-guitar.com/2009/01/06/red-redder-the-reddest-fiesta-dakota-candy-apple-hot-rod-and-more-fender-colours/)
or secrets of brazilian wood :
http://www.mk-guitar.com/2008/08/30/secrets-of-vintage-guitars-brazilian-rosewood/ (http://www.mk-guitar.com/2008/08/30/secrets-of-vintage-guitars-brazilian-rosewood/)
or about "unburst" Les pauls :
http://www.mk-guitar.com/2008/11/27/sunburst-and-unburst-les-pauls-from-the-late-50ies/ (http://www.mk-guitar.com/2008/11/27/sunburst-and-unburst-les-pauls-from-the-late-50ies/)
or specs about 61 vintage strats
http://www.mk-guitar.com/2010/02/24/features-and-specsof-a-61-vintage-stratocaster/ (http://www.mk-guitar.com/2010/02/24/features-and-specsof-a-61-vintage-stratocaster/)
or how identify a pre-CBS model
http://www.mk-guitar.com/2010/03/01/how-to-identify-an-original-pre-cbs-fender-stratocaster-body/ (http://www.mk-guitar.com/2010/03/01/how-to-identify-an-original-pre-cbs-fender-stratocaster-body/)
etc etc
very informative ! :thumbsup
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MK himself said when they came out that the weight can vary a lot (I think it was in the review in Guitarist magazine). Mine is a very early one (received Sept 03), had the wrong colour and is very light.
When they came out they said they were "swamp ash".
Another way to use three of them would be top have them set the same as MK.
1. Light strings, no tremolo arm, as used on Sultans, if we ever hear it again.
2. Heavy strings, tremors as used on Postcards.
3. Lipstick pickups, as used on Forever Young with Mr Bob.
yes exactly
and the one used on sultans is the same used on Romeo & Juliet outro ('9 strings)
the one used for postcards is the same used on SFA (some gigs of the GL tour) I believe, because SFA requires heavy string and tremolo too
http://www.mk-guitar.com/2010/07/17/the-different-mark-knopfler-signature-strats-used-on-the-get-lucky-tour/ (http://www.mk-guitar.com/2010/07/17/the-different-mark-knopfler-signature-strats-used-on-the-get-lucky-tour/)
http://www.mk-guitar.com/2012/03/08/they-all-look-the-same-how-to-tell-mark-knopflers-different-signature-strats-apart/ (http://www.mk-guitar.com/2012/03/08/they-all-look-the-same-how-to-tell-mark-knopflers-different-signature-strats-apart/)
http://www.mk-guitar.com/mark-knopfler-gear-database/mark-knopfler-signature-strat-se-00000/ (http://www.mk-guitar.com/mark-knopfler-gear-database/mark-knopfler-signature-strat-se-00000/)
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Here it comes Jarle! MK Strat for sale, $1,599.99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-Mark-Knopfler-Stratocaster-Hot-Rod-Red-Rosewood-Electric-Guitar-/251367889990
UPD: Seems like he doesn't ship it outside of the US, what a nerd!
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Looks great at a nice price too! shame about shipping, but you can always ask the seller...
One thing I've realised, that has always gone unnoticed by me, is that due to the vintage specs there is NO 22nd fret as per many modern American Stratocaster models.
This is a real negative for me, simply because when playing live in certain keys, there's nothing like bending and holding the B string up a tone at the 22nd - it's a great crowd pleaser :)
My two American Strats have 22, my fiesta red MIM is a 50s model with 21 and I'm always a little reluctant to use it for loooong gigs.
Up until recently I thought all Strats had 22 frets, and that it was just a cutback on the Mexican models, but this isn't true - the true vintage designs are like the MIMs and MKs sig. :(
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Oooh Black case?? mine only have brown... Wonder when they stopped issuing brown cases with the MK's?.....
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there's nothing like bending and holding the B string up a tone at the 22nd - it's a great crowd pleaser
there's something better : bending and holding the E string up a tone at the 22nd !
I like bending up to the high E. it gives this kind of aerian floyd flavour
I remember doing it on a 21 fret neck (my first strat copy), but a little bit tricky
I read in an itw that M. Oldifield loved bending to the high G ! :o Don't know how he could achieve it. with superlight strings ? ???
BTW, the 3rd solo on Money was played by Gimour on the Bill lewis guitar, for the bend up to high F#. he couldn't have done this on his strat (21 fret), and according to Bjorn from gilmourish.com, he never played this note in any live gig.
http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=89 (http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=89)
and last but not least, the french guitarist Louis Bertignac (from the band "telephone") own the only one SG with a 27 fret neck ! :o
http://www.bertiliste.com/bertignac/matos/g-sg1.html (http://www.bertiliste.com/bertignac/matos/g-sg1.html)
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It's something I never really thought about. All 3 of my Strats ( & my Tele) have 21 frets and I tend to think that is "normal" with the 22nd fret on some models being added at the request of professional players. I have other guitars with 22 frets if needed & a PRS with 24. ;D
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I don't go up the dusty end. :)
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Here it comes Jarle! MK Strat for sale, $1,599.99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-Mark-Knopfler-Stratocaster-Hot-Rod-Red-Rosewood-Electric-Guitar-/251367889990
UPD: Seems like he doesn't ship it outside of the US, what a nerd!
Thank you, Foma! Very interesting! Seems like the seller is a guitar store in the US, Willcut Guitars. Anyone heard about them?
Edit: I have sent them an e-mail asking if they ship to Norway... Fingers crossed :)
-Jarle :)
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I am looking for you here in The Netherlands, you will here from me as soon I've found something Jarle :thumbsup
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It's something I never really thought about. All 3 of my Strats ( & my Tele) have 21 frets and I tend to think that is "normal" with the 22nd fret on some models being added at the request of professional players. I have other guitars with 22 frets if needed & a PRS with 24. ;D
There not added for professionals that's for sure!! The American standards (not the vintage reissues) and my Hwy 1 are basic models, they were my first two Strats, so I just thought it was normal. The vintage specs were a shock to me - even the wider spaced bridge is not to my taste, compared to the modern narrow spacing.
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It's done!
I bought the new one from Willcut Guitars in the US through Ebay. They were very helpfull and there was no problem with shipping to Norway. Thank you Foma for guiding me to this one, and to everybody for helping me and sharing their knowledge about this guitar. I'll let you know when the guitar arrives :)
-Jarle
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That's great news Jarle! I hope you'll be very happy with your purchase. :thumbsup
I know shipping to/from Norway can be difficult. I once bought a lens from your country and had to pay around
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It's done!
I bought the new one from Willcut Guitars in the US through Ebay. They were very helpfull and there was no problem with shipping to Norway. Thank you Foma for guiding me to this one, and to everybody for helping me and sharing their knowledge about this guitar. I'll let you know when the guitar arrives :)
-Jarle
Jarle.
I'm glad you got it, if you had not taken it I would have.
I told myself that I would check the Ebay page on the 31st, giving you time to make the deal.
If it was still there I would pull the plug on it.
Brian
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I'd like to find an old article about the guitar manufacturing.
It is from a long time guitar teach that explained that there isn't enough good wood to answer the asking for so buying a guitar was always sort of a bit ganblery. That a high price deluxe finition didn't meant anything because parts of the wood used is not a specially selected one, an entry model could sound better so the only thing to be done was play them before buying, try several ones and choose the best sounding one.
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Oooh Black case?? mine only have brown... Wonder when they stopped issuing brown cases with the MK's?.....
I think after the brown cases they had black/orange and then black/black.
Here is a video of the one that is for sale at mk-guitar.com. It sounds great and is extremely light!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBhFY6NS4kE
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Hey Ingo! It's a great Strat indeed, but I have to ask. Why it so pricey? Almost three grands for a Strat... I bought one for friend of mine for about 1500$ and Jarle just bought it for the same price, I just don't understand.
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maybe something to do with the MK not being produced any more or someone bring greedy??!! :hmm
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The price displayed in my shop includes 19% VAT which buyers from outside the EU do NOT have to pay.
At the biggest and cheapest stores here in Germany, the last price of the MK Strat was 2,290 Euros (> USD 3,100) , and this was before it was getting rare due to being out of production now.
And don't forget when buying overseas you need to add the costs for shipping, customs and VAT .
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Hey Ingo, nice Follow me home autumn 78' flavour ;)
great tone :thumbsup :clap
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Ingots The Man!! His blog is a gold mine worthy of a link from here (which wasn't popular when I asked).
If I really wanted an MK sig, I'd buy Ingos just to feed his family... Hahaaha!!! :)
Keep up the good work mate! :)
I do think as they become rarer on eBay and in guitar shops the average price WILL go up to at least what ingo is asking. Best thing that ever happened to collectors is Fender discontinuing that sig. ;)
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Ingots The Man!! His blog is a gold mine worthy of a link from here (which wasn't popular when I asked).
I second Fletch on this one
Ingo MUST be linked here :)
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For all of you collectors: in my morning newspaper there is a short article which I will duplicate here.
"GUITAR FOR SALE: The sunburst Fender Stratocaster that a young Bob Dylan played at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival when he famously went electric, perhaps the most historic instrument in rock 'n roll, is coming up for auction, where it could bring as much as half a million dollars.
Though now viewed as changing American music forever, Dylan's three-song electric set at the Rhode Island festival that marked his move from acoustic folk to electric rock was met by boos from folk purists in the crowd who viewed him as a traitor
The guitar is being offered for sale Dec. 6, Christie's said.
With a classic sunburst finish and original flat-wound strings, the guitar has been in the possession of a New Jersey family for nearly 50 years. Dylan left it on a private plane piloted by the owner's late father, who worked for Dylan's manager."
Don't have much time to save up for this! :lol
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It's done!
I bought the new one from Willcut Guitars in the US through Ebay. They were very helpfull and there was no problem with shipping to Norway. Thank you Foma for guiding me to this one, and to everybody for helping me and sharing their knowledge about this guitar. I'll let you know when the guitar arrives :)
-Jarle
Jarle.
I'm glad you got it, if you had not taken it I would have.
I told myself that I would check the Ebay page on the 31st, giving you time to make the deal.
If it was still there I would pull the plug on it.
Brian
Thanks! I really hope you get hold of one... Patience and good help was the key for me. My guitar is on a plane from Philadelphia right now, and I hope i arrives very soon :)
-Jarle
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Serial number and year??
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Serial number and year??
Occupation and purpose of visiting?? :lol
Just kidding. I think he'll give this information with the arrival information as well.
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Here's another wonderful buy. Would be great if someone from AMIT got it!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331056339109?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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Here's another wonderful buy. Would be great if someone from AMIT got it!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331056339109?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Wow. A beauty. Looks like they dropped the price down, usually you can find it for 6,000$+.
But it can't be compared with this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibson-Epiphone-Paul-McCartney-Autograph-Autographed-Texan-Aged-Signed-Guitar-/321102004353?pt=Guitar&hash=item4ac32bc081
Most rediculous thing I ever seen. From same seller, which Jarle bought MK Strat from :)
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Thanks! I really hope you get hold of one... Patience and good help was the key for me. My guitar is on a plane from Philadelphia right now, and I hope i arrives very soon :)
-Jarle
I hope I find one, I will keep my eyes open an with the forum help I might find one.
Brian
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Hey, check out this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARK-KNOPFLER-Miniature-Guitar-Frame-Dire-Straits-/251372814735
I think it's a cool MK Strat copy and it's definately worth watching! Among others this replica stands out in my opinion.
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Hi!
Just wanted to tell that my guitar arrived yesterday. Everything was in excellent shape, and it was really a joy to open that case and see that beautiful guitar for the first time :) It really is a masterpiece of an instrument. I am very happy that I finally got it, and although hanging it around my neck didn't make me sound like Mark right away, I am sure it is a step in the right direction :) The guitar is serial number SE11598, so I suppose it is built recently? Anyone understand Fender's dating system?
-Jarle
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More photos :)
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And more photos...
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Good work mate glad you are happy, the vintage profile on those necks I DO quite like a lot.
So what amp will you plug it into??? :)
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Good work mate glad you are happy, the vintage profile on those necks I DO quite like a lot.
So what amp will you plug it into??? :)
Thanks! :) Amp? Well... I have an "old" amp here which I bought together with my first Stratocaster a few years ago. It's a Vox AD30VT. It is nothing special, and I guess it's a starter amp, so I think a new one is the next on the list. I should probably to wait for my next paycheck though ;)
-J
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Hi Jarle,
So pleased you got it safely...
The only way to tell the year is by taking the neck off and getting the date from the neck! As it's a 'signature' series the serial number isn't for dating the beast!! (I gather you have the 'serial' number hangtag stamped/signed on the 4 stages of construction??)
Mine incidentally were dated when the guitars were initially serviced and 'set-up'
Fletch - you will be pleased to hear that the tremolo has been utilised on 'SE00616' this morning and it sounded awesome!!
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Hi!
Just wanted to tell that my guitar arrived yesterday. Everything was in excellent shape, and it was really a joy to open that case and see that beautiful guitar for the first time :) It really is a masterpiece of an instrument. I am very happy that I finally got it, and although hanging it around my neck didn't make me sound like Mark right away, I am sure it is a step in the right direction :) The guitar is serial number SE11598, so I suppose it is built recently? Anyone understand Fender's dating system?
-Jarle
Jarle.
I'm real glad you have received it looks real nice i'm jealous, :'( now lets see if we can find one for me.
Brian
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Hi!
Just wanted to tell that my guitar arrived yesterday. Everything was in excellent shape, and it was really a joy to open that case and see that beautiful guitar for the first time :) It really is a masterpiece of an instrument. I am very happy that I finally got it, and although hanging it around my neck didn't make me sound like Mark right away, I am sure it is a step in the right direction :) The guitar is serial number SE11598, so I suppose it is built recently? Anyone understand Fender's dating system?
-Jarle
Jarle.
I'm real glad you have received it looks real nice i'm jealous, :'( now lets see if we can find one for me.
Brian
It's such a beauty !!!! I can't play guitar. But love to have one just to look at. ;) Sure will look good on you Brian. :)
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It's such a beauty !!!! I can't play guitar. But love to have one just to look at. ;) Sure will look good on you Brian. :)
Sweetsurrender
I'm like you, I can not play one, but would look real nice on my wall.
Brian
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Here you go Brian, here are my beauties too.....
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47005/sets/72157633637364026/
Will of course help look out for one for you too....
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It's such a beauty !!!! I can't play guitar. But love to have one just to look at. ;) Sure will look good on you Brian. :)
Sweetsurrender
I'm like you, I can not play one, but would look real nice on my wall.
Brian
Brian,
The Fender MK is far too good to just stick on the wall - hopefully if you get one it may get you to start playing!!
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Here you go Brian, here are my beauties too.....
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47005/sets/72157633637364026/
Will of course help look out for one for you too....
3 babies in a row, they do look GOOD
hopefully if you get one it may get you to start playing!!
That would be the plan ;D
Brian
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Hi Jarle,
So pleased you got it safely...
The only way to tell the year is by taking the neck off and getting the date from the neck! As it's a 'signature' series the serial number isn't for dating the beast!! (I gather you have the 'serial' number hangtag stamped/signed on the 4 stages of construction??)
Mine incidentally were dated when the guitars were initially serviced and 'set-up'
Fletch - you will be pleased to hear that the tremolo has been utilised on 'SE00616' this morning and it sounded awesome!!
:) glad to hear !
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Jarle, take my congratulations! As I said
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Hi!
Just wanted to tell that my guitar arrived yesterday. Everything was in excellent shape, and it was really a joy to open that case and see that beautiful guitar for the first time :) It really is a masterpiece of an instrument. I am very happy that I finally got it, and although hanging it around my neck didn't make me sound like Mark right away, I am sure it is a step in the right direction :) The guitar is serial number SE11598, so I suppose it is built recently? Anyone understand Fender's dating system?
-Jarle
Jarle.
I'm real glad you have received it looks real nice i'm jealous, :'( now lets see if we can find one for me.
Brian
Thanks! It is really brand new with a nice built and soild case. Now it's your turn :) Have you considered contacting Willcut Guitars? The guitar is still listet at 1599$ on there webpage.
http://willcuttguitars.com/fender-guitars/stratocaster/artist
Maybe you could send them a mail and ask if they have more in stock, and if not, maybe they could get hold on one for you? Really nice people there. They will answer fast...
info@willcuttguitars.com
-Jarle
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Jarle, take my congratulations! As I said
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Jarle, my opinion is as long as you play a fender through a fender amp it will be fine!! I have an old Fender Champion and a brand new Fender Mustang at the mo and it sounds beautiful through them both...
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Twin Reverb is a dream machine indeed, but I agree with Knopflerfan, Fender Champ is very good too and it's relatively affordable.
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Maybe you could send them a mail and ask if they have more in stock, and if not, maybe they could get hold on one for you? Really nice people there. They will answer fast...
info@willcuttguitars.com
-Jarle
Jarle
Already sent them an Email, waiting on a reply.
Brian
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Maybe you could send them a mail and ask if they have more in stock, and if not, maybe they could get hold on one for you? Really nice people there. They will answer fast...
info@willcuttguitars.com
-Jarle
Jarle
Already sent them an Email, waiting on a reply.
Brian
Great! Let us know :)
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Warning, on the early ones at least the paint is liable to chip around the neck pocket when you take off the neck. :(
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Oh yes well done Dusty - you can see the paint chipped on SE00616 on my flickr page where the serial number plate is....
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Regards Amps - I can't agree that any "fender" amp will be fine. Fender mass produce almost everything now, and that was always Leo's philosophy too!
There are lots of valve amps that do the biz, depending on your needs, at affordable prices.
I own a Fender Princeton Reverb reissue which I gig with ALL the time, and I love it. Other folks don't like them.
I also have a HotRod Deville, which I used for years. It's a different beast and is kind of a budget version of the legendary Fender Twin - I love it also, but it's a monster to carry and gig with'!!
There are certainly some VERY good solid state amps these days, and if you're just mucking around at home, then yes, follow your ears... :) those Vox emulators are quite versatile buy awkward to fiddle with. I've got an Ad50vt too!! I never use it :) but the kids can haha!
I love gear talk, so many different opinions, but once your on stage and turned up loud, you play with what you've got!!
Recording, well that's a whole other debate. :)
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Cool, I havent long bought the Fender Mustang II and although its a solid amp it sounds like a valve.... The pre-programmed effects are excellent and it is capable of plugging straight into my laptop to record....it is only 40watts but boy does she kick. I have gigged with her too very happily....
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I play through a 1964 Fender Concert. I didn't realise at the time I got it, but MK has one too.
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Maybe you could send them a mail and ask if they have more in stock, and if not, maybe they could get hold on one for you? Really nice people there. They will answer fast...
info@willcuttguitars.com
-Jarle
I got a reply today, good news and bad news.
Brandon at Willcutt told me he has another MK Strat, case never opened until today.
When he opened it he found it had 5 little holes in it 1 on the front and 4 on the rear. (he says they look like they where drilled)
He said he had never seen anything like it. He sent me some low quality pics take a look and give me your opinions
Should I take it or keep looking?
It has all the tags, serial #SE11637 He has adjusted the price for the damage $1300.00 + shipping
Chow Brian
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Oh thats a shame about the holes. If its any consolation my first one i bought has 4 'dinks' on it where it had been played and knocked. I considered that it actually added character to the instrument but the drill holes I wouldnt be so sure of?? I will take a better look at your photos in the morning on the computer screen...
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That's very odd! Dings I can handle, unknown strange drilled holes??? As mysterious as the Giza pyramids!
I would not buy without some sort of valid explanation, even then you will always notice those holes and know its not 'perfect' :(
Interested to know any other explanations, you could always ask on the Strat Talk forum, there are some super nerdy nerds there, and you'll hear all sorts of opinions for an interesting story like this.
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Very weird. You could fill the holes and touch up quite easily. It depends on whether or not you are the kind of person who will always be bothered by it and whether or not you care about the discount.
Otherwise just wait, they aren't particularly rare and another will come up soon enough.
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I agree with Dusty, why not wait until a better one comes to fruition??
Its not like its an older guitar either....
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you could always ask on the Strat Talk forum, there are some super nerdy nerds there, and you'll hear all sorts of opinions for an interesting story like this.
Thats a good idea, but i'm not a member and do not want to join to ask a question and look like a leacher.
If you happen to be a member, please feel free to post the pictures and see if you get an answer.
Very weird. You could fill the holes and touch up quite easily. It depends on whether or not you are the kind of person who will always be bothered by it and whether or not you care about the discount.
No i'm not a very fussy person, and the pricing is good. Still have to think about it.
I have asked for a better quality picture, so I can get a better idea.
Brian
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Maybe you could send them a mail and ask if they have more in stock, and if not, maybe they could get hold on one for you? Really nice people there. They will answer fast...
info@willcuttguitars.com
-Jarle
I got a reply today, good news and bad news.
Brandon at Willcutt told me he has another MK Strat, case never opened until today.
When he opened it he found it had 5 little holes in it 1 on the front and 4 on the rear. (he says they look like they where drilled)
He said he had never seen anything like it. He sent me some low quality pics take a look and give me your opinions
Should I take it or keep looking?
It has all the tags, serial #SE11637 He has adjusted the price for the damage $1300.00 + shipping
Chow Brian
Hm... Shame it isn't in perfect condition. Very strange... I think I would have kept looking, although it is a very good price, but we might not look at it the same way :)
-Jarle
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I'd guess that these holes appear because of a faulty coat of lacquer.
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you could always ask on the Strat Talk forum, there are some super nerdy nerds there, and you'll hear all sorts of opinions for an interesting story like this.
Thats a good idea, but i'm not a member and do not want to join to ask a question and look like a leacher.
If you happen to be a member, please feel free to post the pictures and see if you get an answer.
Very weird. You could fill the holes and touch up quite easily. It depends on whether or not you are the kind of person who will always be bothered by it and whether or not you care about the discount.
No i'm not a very fussy person, and the pricing is good. Still have to think about it.
I have asked for a better quality picture, so I can get a better idea.
Brian
Done Brian,
Watch this thread...
http://www.strat-talk.com/forum/stratocaster-discussion-forum/258173-drilled-holes-signature-strat-any-ideas.html#post1437314
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Flectch, it seems that the pics can be seen only when you're logged in.
If you're not registered to AMIT, you can access to the link you posted on strat forum, but you can't see the pics
I think it's a little bit like my "acess to general discussion" problem :think
registered persons can see more things than simple "visitors" it seems... :think
Dan, we need some help :)
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Brian, just join, post in the intro a "hello" - attach your pics, you'll get LOADS of ideas. It's a friendly place.
I'd like to know who did those holes and why - curious!
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IF this is actually a new instrument, the dealer should be returning it to Fender. It should never have left the factory like that. (Case never opened?) .
It makes me think that someone has been sticking labels on with drawing pins :smack, or it isn't actually a new guitar ! :think
I would pass on that one even with the reduction in price.
BTW, when did they stop putting these in the brown case with the gold lining?
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Yes the case issue is interesting. Perhaps those on this forum with MK Strats with black cases can advise when they bought them to get a rough idea of a year....
The theory of drawing pins is interesting too...cant be new as it would never of left Fender like that!!
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IF this is actually a new instrument, the dealer should be returning it to Fender. It should never have left the factory like that. (Case never opened?) .
I do believe the dealer about it being new, he original told me that he did not have one in stock as he just sold the last one and
they are not being made. The following day he phoned me and said they had found this one in the warehouse.
One of the other pictures he sent me, it showed the equipment draw open in the case, the tags are there and the cord was still in a plastic bag.
I think the dealer will send it back to Fender if I don't take it.
I have asked him for a close up of the holes, once I see them I will make up my mind. The pricing is pretty good, and who knows when the next new
one will come along. Looking at one of the other pictures of the whole guitar you can badly see the hole in the front.
I have sent the pictures to fender to see what they say.
Brian
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Any developments Brian??
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Any developments Brian??
Yes, I got an Email back from Fender today at 4:54 est here is a copy
and its not very helpful, as I do not want to get the dealer in trouble
for offering to sell me the guitar, I have not replied to him yet.
The dealer told me if I do not purchase it he will be returning it to Fender.
Hello Brian,
What is the name of the dealer that has this guitar?
Matthew Hounslow
Fender Musical Instruments Corp.
Consumer Relations Dept
17600 N. Perimeter Drive Suite 100
Scottsdale, AZ 85255
480-596-7195
MHounslow@Fender.com
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The damaged Mk Stat at Willcutt Guitars is on its way back to Fender.
If Fender replace the body and stun it to Willcutt, I will think about it at that time.
So still looking, a near mint used would be my choice.
Brian