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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Guitarman1972 on January 11, 2014, 02:36:49 PM

Title: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: Guitarman1972 on January 11, 2014, 02:36:49 PM
It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming:

part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l1F_8DEAbs
part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2icVV5saTY
part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwqesj2v0pk

Always thought the iniative/idea came from Dylan himself, when you read alot of articles why Knopfler was asked. This interview makes clear that was not the case.
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: Pottel on January 11, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
kept watching, then saw a vid on chet atkins with leo kottke, from there went to doc watson, from there to vince gill, and then stumbled on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVYx5wUhhEE
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: Pottel on January 11, 2014, 03:49:53 PM
the solo is awesomely beautiful
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: superval99 on January 11, 2014, 04:02:21 PM
the solo is awesomely beautiful

I remember sitting through the whole of that show on TV purely for that small glimpse of MK!    Seeing him perform was so precious in those days.    :)

Thanks for the clip, Pottel.
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: Guitarman1972 on January 11, 2014, 04:15:25 PM
One thing often leads to another!  ;D

Btw Vince Gill is an amazing guitarplayer. His Oklahoma Borderline solo is awesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9858hw77vQ4
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: Pottel on January 11, 2014, 04:50:21 PM
and then stumbled to It might get loud....very interesting documentary, if you love guitar..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y9KEtiQ8CM
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: dustyvalentino on January 11, 2014, 05:56:35 PM
I have that CMA awards on vhs somewhere,  would be about 94?

Funny seeing MK playing through that cheap Crate amp - I have one of those!

Can't remember seeing that strat before either?
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: Vesper on January 11, 2014, 07:02:40 PM
kept watching, then saw a vid on chet atkins with leo kottke, from there went to doc watson, from there to vince gill, and then stumbled on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVYx5wUhhEE

Nice one Pottel!
Great song, smooth solo and Mark looks typically pre-solo period!

BTW, does anyone know what guitar that is?
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: JF on January 11, 2014, 07:49:22 PM

BTW, does anyone know what guitar that is?

never seen it before

looks like a pensa-shur-schecter strat

pesna-shur for the headstock
schecter for strat-look and potis

most likely borrowed from Gill's gear, or maybe from TV staff ?
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: Dear Old Thing on January 11, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
I remember sitting through the whole of that show on TV purely for that small glimpse of MK!    Seeing him perform was so precious in those days.    :)

Thanks for the clip, Pottel.

Exactly the same here, Val.. a friend recorded it from some pay-tv-station back then if I remember correctly, gave me the vhs and I was searching and searching directly the next day after it was broadcasted in Germany...

DOT
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: Pottel on January 12, 2014, 10:29:55 AM
95
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: vgonis on January 12, 2014, 11:30:08 AM
Wexler also states it, on his fine autobiography Rhythm and the blues on page 292. He had just come off recording Communique and thought that it would help Dylan put the new songs  together. Dylan's answer was in the lines "Mark does me better than anybody", so he must have heard of him. From other sources I remember reading that Dylan had seen DS live and the suggestion was mutual, but anyway. Wexler, although he admitted that DS was his most lucrative production after the Atlantic years, he doesn't share many details from his days with DS, maybe a page total in all the book, and most of it while referring to other incidents, like Dylan...

As for the videos, thanks Pottel & Guitarman! Amazing videos that I haven't seen before! Vince is a maestro of the guitar. No wonder MK brought him in during "The bug"  sessions. His style is fluent and unique and totally suits the song. (which regardless, is one of my least favorites from OES)

I had seen  It might get loud and it was a big disappointment to me. I expected more, both information wise, and playing. We have three amazing players and we just don't hear them play their stuff. Maybe because each one has his different and distinctive style...
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: Ingo on January 12, 2014, 02:32:28 PM
Yes, this is as I heard about it before. JW (plus BB) produced Communique, JW's coming project was Slow Train Coming, he suggested MK (and Pick Withers) to Dylan, Dylan went to see the band in the Roxy on their first US tour and was impressed...
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: Pottel on January 12, 2014, 08:14:09 PM
isn't there even a picture of the band meeting bob when he came backstage that night?? 29.03.1979
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: vgonis on January 12, 2014, 08:44:14 PM
Where? Where? You little teaser!  :)
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: JF on January 12, 2014, 10:01:43 PM
isn't there even a picture of the band meeting bob when he came backstage that night?? 29.03.1979

according to Oldfield's book, there were a lot famous people that night at the Roxy : Ron Wood, Keith Richards, Rod Stewart, Dave Mason, Linda ronstadt, Bette Milder, J. Browne....what an audience !
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: dmg on January 12, 2014, 11:39:39 PM
isn't there even a picture of the band meeting bob when he came backstage that night?? 29.03.1979

according to Oldfield's book, there were a lot famous people that night at the Roxy : Ron Wood, Keith Richards, Rod Stewart, Dave Mason, Linda ronstadt, Bette Milder, J. Browne....what an audience !

Oh no, not Rod Stewart! ::)
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: dustyvalentino on January 13, 2014, 08:43:48 PM
MK has done a couple of good collaborations with Rod, Sailing with the Burns 12 string and If I Had You with weird effects on the guitar. :)
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: Dear Old Thing on January 13, 2014, 08:58:00 PM
Don't get what you say? If there's a pun in it I don't understand.. ? Please! Sure enough MK never collaborated with Rod Stewart?

LE
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: dustyvalentino on January 13, 2014, 09:23:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABepa14FsG8&feature=youtube_gdata_player


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb8HtuEfrjk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 :)
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: JF on January 13, 2014, 09:57:59 PM
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb8HtuEfrjk

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ooq7WPqd5s
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: Dear Old Thing on January 13, 2014, 10:00:44 PM
Thank you, both!
Never knew about these two tracks to be honest, you live and learn...

I guess I misunderstood Dusty, I thought with "Sailing" he meant STP and with If I Had You he meant DS's If I Had You...

LE
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: dmg on January 13, 2014, 10:02:02 PM
Don't get what you say? If there's a pun in it I don't understand.. ? Please! Sure enough MK never collaborated with Rod Stewart?

LE

Princes Trust Rock Gala '86.
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: Pottel on January 13, 2014, 10:11:17 PM
true, i also thought If i had you from the ep, was flabbergasted, never heard of that...lol....
that solo is so recognisable...scary...
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: vgonis on January 13, 2014, 10:19:53 PM
Sailing live from Princess trust though, not from that video. The original recording was a hit before MK joined the rock star club... And If I had you, just the same name...
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: vgonis on January 13, 2014, 10:20:35 PM
I found this while searching the net: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/neilmccormick/100008357/mark-knopfler-solves-bonos-back-problems/
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: dustyvalentino on January 13, 2014, 10:33:34 PM
Sailing live from Princess trust though, not from that video. The original recording was a hit before MK joined the rock star club... And If I had you, just the same name...

The Princes Trust one is in my first link, I just can't embed properly. :)
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: vgonis on January 13, 2014, 10:54:21 PM
They seem to wok fine now Dusty! Thanks!
Title: Re: It was Jerry Wexler's idea to ask Knopfler for Slow Train Coming
Post by: JF on January 15, 2014, 08:14:56 AM
wow ! never sen this before

strange to see the burns baldwin during this era !

and at the end of the clip, it seems to be Ray Cooper, but on drums, not on percussion as usual