A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: twm on February 13, 2014, 09:49:34 PM
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For reasons that are pretty obvious, I recently pulled out an old cassette recording I made of an Everly Brothers concert we attended about 25 years ago. I just got round to playing it today. By golly, their version of "Why Worry?" was something, wasn't it?
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nice, would you be able to somehow share that?
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No problem in principle but no means to do so at present. Just to warn you, though, it's not the best recording I've ever made. I've probably said already somewhere (in which case I apolgise for repeating it) but we met the Everly Brothers and the band at their hotel the next day and got our programmme signed. There's a bit of a tale to that, as well.
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well then, do tell us the tale pls...
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I am sure I have mentioned this before.
Mrs twm really likes the Everly Brothers (since her youth, in fact) and, when they came to a venue just a mile or so from where we live, there was no doubt we would go. They did two shows on the Saturday and we went to the earlier show, so that we could take our youngest along for the experience. As the show approached, we found that Ralph McTell was the support act. I had known Ralph McTell a very little bit in my youth and, since the date was 3 October 1987 and the twentieth anniversary of Woody Guthrie
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I met Pete Winfield and Phil Everly outside the Aberdeen Capitol circa 1993 (met MK and all the 96ers at the same spot in 96.)
Phil was friendly and signed my programme. Don did a runner and didn't do any autographs. :(
A couple who were there saw how disappointed I was not to have met Don and took me straight back to their house where they gave me their signed programme (complete with Don's autograph. ) :)
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TWM, if you would like to get your cassette copy into a digital format in order to share I run a small studio with equipment to do this. We could then upload somewhere and share. Let me know what you think.
Great story by the way.....
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the waterboys? always used to love that one album, as in really admiring the whole ting "Dream Harder"
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2manyguitars, at the moment, I don't have the means to transfer cassettes to digital. I have been thinking of buying a set-up that allows me to do so but have not yet done so. Your offer is appreciated and I may well take you up on it in due course, if that's OK.
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No worries TWM, just let me know if you need any help, if the recording isn't that great it may be worth some tweaking in pro tools, and putting through a decent mastering plugin.
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Thanks. Mainly, the recording is a touch dull but it sounds better if you tweak the treble up. I didn't over-record it, so it can take this without distortion. The venue is a sports hall most of the time, with very little by way of soft furnishings or curtains to absorb reverberations, so you get a slightly "boxy" sound. The inevitable clapping is close to the mike but much less intrusive than you get on some audience recordings.
The Everly Brothers part lasts about 53 minutes but the odd thing is that they are followed by Ralph McTell on the cassette. Since he opened the show and since the first part of the cassette almost exactly fits 45 minutes, this makes me think that it may not be the original master cassette but a dub. When recording, I would usually flip a cassette well before Side One ran out. As I have hundreds and hundreds of cassettes, all in boxes in the garage, I'll have to see if I can locate a master recording. That alone may take a while.
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As I have hundreds and hundreds of cassettes, all in boxes in the garage, I'll have to see if I can locate a master recording. That alone may take a while.
You'll need to rake out those uncirculated DS recordings! ;)
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---and those hillbily shows. and those dylan shows, and that Pink Floyd Games for may show, together with the UFO performances :-)
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I have made very few NHB, DS or MK recordings and those few belong to mrs twm, as they were made for her, not me. And, anyway, I don't know what's "circulated" and what's "uncirculated". I may be wrong on this but, as far as I'm aware, nothing in circulation that came from her was originally recorded by me.
As for Games For May - I wish! And I never went to the UFO club.
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Went trawling through boxes earlier today. Found the master recording of the Everly Brothers concert but it was recorded on fairly poor quality tape (probably a last minute decison to record the show, as I tended to record on good quality tape). If it sounds any better than the dub, it is marginal.
I found some other bits and pieces:
(1) an official promo cassette for "Wag The Dog", with a properly printed insert and a properly printed card "sleeve", the same 8 tracks on each side
(2) a few MK interviews from radio shows: "Stereo Sequence" 1991, "Roots" 1996, "A Good Read" 1997 and "A Song For Geordie" 1997. Don't ask what's on them as it must be years since I played them
I also came across a few "audience" recordings. Is there an on-line check-list (or similar) of unofficial DS/NHB/MK recordings that are circulating?
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I just found a brief recording on-line of MK joking about bootlegs (NHB, Sheffield City Hall, 30 September 1996) and I reckon my recording of that part of the show is better. As I recall, my recording was made from the front row of the balcony. I'm not saying that mine is better overall, because I haven't heard the whole of the bootleg, but I was pleased with it.
I have also found a radio show entitled "Mark Knopfler - An Appreciation" (1991). It was one of a series presented by Paul Gambaccini but, from memory, I don't think MK contributed.
Also, one from 1998 entitled "Reading Music" (to do with books about music) to which MK contributes something on Chas McDevitt's book on "Skiffle". Chris Barber contributes, too
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dude, TWM, we direly need these precioussssssesss..
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Please be specific, pottel. All of the things I've listed?
Also, the bootleg from NHB Sheffield 30 Sep 96 lists "Wild Theme" and I can't hear that. What is it? My tape has a brief gap in the middle of "Mystery Train". Also, it runs on after "Nadine" and you get the reading of the raffle result, with sighs from some in the audience and then cheers as someone is the lucky winner.
I've also got MK on "The Saturday Sequence" 1989 (live recording of "Feel Like Going Home" - very nice performance- with a spoken introduction by MK, part of Roger Scott tribute), the NHBs on "Country Club" 1990 and MK on the the Johnny Walker show in 1993 (but not my writing on this last cassette).
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effrything TWM!!!!
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whatever is possible....try and start with Sheffield i would say. and thnx!!
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I can remember Paul G doing a MK tribute on BBC radio 1, I had it on cassette
for years and it was the first time I heard Cosmic Square Dance. It is probably the
same show as it was about 91 and MK didnt contribute.
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I can't "do" everything. That would take too long. Also, at the moment, I can't do anything, in that I can't transfer cassette to any form of digital format.
At the moment, I'm listening on headphones to excerpts from the first night of the OES tour (Dublin, 23 August 91). This is an upfront recording, good on volume, clarity and detail. Recorded on two Maxell XLII-S cassettes, it has no audible tape hiss. The audience was pretty loud that night but, as we were upstairs and close to the speakers, it isn't intrusive during the songs. We were to one side of the stage, so the sound is stronger in one ear than the other but, apart from that, I think it would rate pretty well as an audience recording. How does that compare with what's out and about from this show?
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Very good sounding and complete recording of this first concert of the On every street world tour 1991-1992. The concert itself is very interesting because of the rarely performed songs like Iron hand, Portobelle belle, I think I love you too much, Setting me up, Wild theme (rare as a 1991 version!), The long highway and of course because it's the very first concert of the tour. This is the first ever live performance of The long highway and has an ending that is very different from the one of the Golden heart tour. Also a very rare part during Money for nothing: the song opens with the solo & drums and while that goes on and on, Mark Knopfler introduces the whole band before starting with the lyrics. Very cool and never done again after this concert! Highly recommended show!
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Just in case you want a quick transfer of cassette to digital. You can try a very simple 3.5mm stereo jack to jack, from a cassette Walkman for instance to your computers audio 3.5mm input (not headphone output). I can do this on an old iMac for instance, may need a amp boost (depends on your computer), then you record the "input" onto GarageBand or any simple recording software. It's fairly easy.
Since the destruction of the traditional cassette player, I purchased an old Sony Walkman on eBay and suddenly all those old cassettes can be plugged straight into an mp3 type jack on my Amp.
If that all sounds too complicated, Pottel needs to fly over and help...
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I don't need to pull out a Walkman, as I have an old "Beat Box" style radio, with twin cassette decks, that I've had for about 30 years close to the PC. I also have a good supply of various leads and connectors, so should be able to connect the two together, if only to see what works. . I have a PC, not a Mac, and assume that you mean the "pink" socket. Also, someone once told me to try Audacity as recording medium but I've never indulged myself. Is that a route to try?
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I don't need to pull out a Walkman, as I have an old "Beat Box" style radio, with twin cassette decks, that I've had for about 30 years close to the PC. I also have a good supply of various leads and connectors, so should be able to connect the two together, if only to see what works. . I have a PC, not a Mac, and assume that you mean the "pink" socket. Also, someone once told me to try Audacity as recording medium but I've never indulged myself. Is that a route to try?
yes but be carefull as sometimes there's only a mic input on PC soundboards (the pink one)
the line input si often "blue" (the green one is the headphones output)
if you plug into the mic input, the signal level from your cassette player will be too loud, and therefore it will be saturated. (you can put the recording level very low, but it will not be the best)
Audacity can do the recording job, as many other freewares
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If it is supposed to be on the front, I do not have a blue socket, only one pink and one green one.
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I don't need to pull out a Walkman, as I have an old "Beat Box" style radio, with twin cassette decks, that I've had for about 30 years close to the PC.
"Something we got from the Americans. It's called a ghetto blaster!"
"Q" in the film The Living Daylights just after a ghetto blaster containing a rocket launcher had blown up a mannequin! The last proper 007 film before they lost their humour and charm.
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If it is supposed to be on the front, I do not have a blue socket, only one pink and one green one.
yes, sometimes it's on the back off the PC, and sometimes there's not
it looks like this :
https://www.google.fr/search?q=line+input+PC&biw=1280&bih=902&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=hWEGU5ecFsP60gWsvICYBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ (https://www.google.fr/search?q=line+input+PC&biw=1280&bih=902&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=hWEGU5ecFsP60gWsvICYBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ)
if you don't see any, it is that your soundcard don't have one
you can try on the mic input, and let down the recording level on your recording software, but you will not get the best sound
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All PC's will have one, basically it's just the input line. It will probably be next to the socket for the headphones (line out, obviously). Line-in is usually for a microphone and may be marked as such if it doesn't have a colour.