A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Jules on March 04, 2014, 12:02:36 PM
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Hello everybody
Some of you might know Mikel Camps, he is probably one of the biggest collectors of DS and MK stuff and in his collection there are a lot of rare items.
He just started his own youtube channel when he shows his collection. Its in Spanish but the visuals says it all to those of you who dont speak or understand Spanish.
This is the first video he uploaded, there are a few more, so if you like it, subscribe to his channel, you are gonna be shocked and amazed, for sure
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wow.
waiting for the rest now...the details...
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He is working in a video about all the versions of Sultans of swing 7" from his collection, around 40 items!
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just saw it. he is uploading a lot of video's now.
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Not a bad little collection! ;)
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Oooh, what a lot! :)
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Not a bad little collection! ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just WOW !!!!!!!! Jbaent, do you know anything about him? IS he a friend of yours ? Any little story about him will be interesting for us.
Thanks ! Really really impressive. :clap :clap
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I know him, as many others amiters, I think he reads us from time to time, and he has a facebook account if you wanna contact him.
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I know him by reputation. His "Dire Museum" (unfortunately not updated for more than 10 years) has been of some inspiration for my collection.
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Quite Impressive collection. I like his videos on particular items, so we can see what we miss in our collections. Which is pretty much everything! >:( The last one is a teaser!
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Thanks, Jbaent, for letting us know about this!
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mikel is a friendly fan, one of many i have gotten to know. he is just a bit more crazy then some of us (not all :-)))))
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Thanks Julio. And for those who missed Mikel's webpage: http://silvertown.free.fr/museu/
Although not updated for several years, offline for some time, already a great collection back in 2003.
Wishes
Allen
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Mikel's collection is awesome, and it is a showcase! Beautiful to look at. He has taken wonderful care of it. A model for all of us. My collection is decent enough, but it certainly doesn't show as great as his does!
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Mikel's collection is awesome, and it is a showcase! Beautiful to look at. He has taken wonderful care of it. A model for all of us. My collection is decent enough, but it certainly doesn't show as great as his does!
I have to say the same for my collection. For a time, I made CD covers for quite a lot of the bootlegs, until it got too many, the bootlegs belong now in the external hard drive. And I hardly listen to any of them. It gives me a good feeling that I have them. :D
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these collections are at a high level, there will be 4-5 in the world. we, poor mortals, are satisfied with much less ;D
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WOW :smack :-[ seeing that great collection makes me feel like a DS/Knopfler imposter!! :-[
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Really, a great collection that only few people can have in one place. These things are all matter of desire. And the more desire you have the more you are willing to obtain them. Having 20 different editions of each album might be a cool thing and a sign we are real fans, on the other hand, to the outside world, it might be a sign of a psychological problem. I have received numerous looks and comments from friends, for a much smaller DS/MK collection. Anyway, each one of us has many other interests in life. And since my interests in music, books, movies and photography are equally great, I have to limit my desires and my collections. But I completely understand the collectors, since I am one and I am grateful he is so open minded to create these videos for the rest of us. Maybe we should create a database (EXCEL or something plus photos) , each one of us with the things we have, so that we know what is out there and compile a definitive catalog. I have made attempts but I am always falling behind.
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Well vgonis that is a point that is easy for me because I have all of mine on a spreadsheet already! I had one made years ago when we all traded by post (for obvious reasons) and just kept it updated) so now it has all my bootlegs on it. What I don't do though is add those that are only on my HD as I always like to get them all onto CD at some point so I do have more than what is on my list.
I wish I had the methodical approach to collecting Mikel does. Mine are all over the shop - in drawers, under my bed, CD rack, wardrobe, you name it! I do amazingly know where they all are though. :hmm
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You should see my room! ;) It is a working place as well and it is 10sqm...
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i got all my bootlegs in an excel sheet too, some 9500 lines of shows, mainly knopfler, floyd, dylan and guitar, but it is really a very varied collection.
one day i should do the same for my normal cd#s
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I've never really collected interviews at all - just the music. Mark says the same things all the time anyway so there's not much point! To be honest there are a few things recently like the Phil Cunningham one and the John Illsley thing that were good and I liked the interview with Parky back in 2000 but radio interviews don't really interest me because we never get anything we don't already know. I'll listen but won't collect.
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No posters? (nor badges nor stickers for that matter??)
I am disappointed.
:o :hmm :o :thumbsup
But seriously... you gotta be shiteing me. I've got no words for this. I mean I never imagined how it would look like... all this... lost for words... I considered myself a bit (or a bit more) crazy, but this...
I mean probably I have the biggest collection in my country (no big deal I guess), all the bootlegs I could download and a few I could trade some years ago. But the official stuff... Some years ago this guy's collection would look like heaven to me probably, but now, seeing this guy having 20+ versions of all the official releases, I see it a bit crazy. More than a bit. I'm not surprised he quit those 10 years ago.
Now I say, there is one important question: is my life for me (your life for you), or is it dedicated to MK?? Because I feel this is not what matters, focusing day and night for One man's work, downloading, listening, buying, collecting, writing and reading the forum... where does it end? I think "that's a dangerous course" when someone is occupying himself/herself with someone else's life rather than with his own... I used to be a bit like this guy, now I'm glad I have moved on.
Just my 0.02$
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I don't think we should take time to analyse this. All it is is a great collection of a dedicated fan and that's it. Some people are collectors and some aren't, but we're all fans. Personally I think it's great to see large collections like this that have taken many years and a lot of effort to develop.
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I say each one with his own madness. I like his collection, probably given the time and money I would have gone there as well, yet my preferences are a bit different and I have other things that people consider a bit nutty. Each person has his own and I pretty much like his! ;)
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I don't think we should take time to analyse this. All it is is a great collection of a dedicated fan and that's it. Some people are collectors and some aren't, but we're all fans. Personally I think it's great to see large collections like this that have taken many years and a lot of effort to develop.
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well said !!!!!
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There are more videos in Mikel's youtube channel.
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Thanks, it's always a pleasure to watch.
I'm a bit surprised to see that some items, not so rare, are missing in his collection (he probably has no interest in them)
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Back in the day, I gathered a lot of Dylan "things" - releases, recordings, books, magazines, newspaper articles, posters and so on - but never really set out to collect anything and everything. Some people still do that but there are now so many "things" that it is diffcult, time-consuming and expensive. Dmg has indicated that he has narrowed his MK collecting habit down a bit and that is admirable. If anyone should choose the "anything and everything" route, please be aware of the enormity of the task. To give you some idea, maybe you would care to check out these Dylan sites:
OFFICIAL RELEASES (in all their variations): http://www.searchingforagem.com/
ALL KNOWN RECORDINGS: http://www.bjorner.com/chronologies.htm
BOOKS AND "COVER" MAGAZINES: http://michel.pomarede.pagesperso-orange.fr/CW&C/
PHOTOS: http://dylanstubs.com/pictures/index.html
DAILY NEWS: http://www.expectingrain.com/
TOURS: http://www.boblinks.com/dates.html#0609
All of the above have multiple pages and these are just a very few of the sites devoted to Dylan. Just be aware of what you are letting yourself in for.
Now, I just pick up "stuff" as I come across and keep largely to the basics (important releases and publications) and try to update my collection of old newspaper and magazine cuttings (concentrating mainly on the 1960s and 1970s). In the old days, there was something slightly romantic about getting a newspaper from some far-flung part of the world, with all their local news as well as the Dylan piece. Nowadays, it is all electronic and more mundane.
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I completely understand and agree with you. I didn't want to be critical. I try to elaborate.
The largest collection in the world of DS stuff and memorabilia is (I believe) in Italy, where there is a collector with a capital C that many of you know. It's hard to find some MK related item that is missing in this collection.
But let's take as example another collection (I allow myself to do it because it is public, online), the one by Jeroen: it's a very large collection but, of course (since he began to collect some objects more recently), it's not complete. But the items that are missing in his collection are rare or extremely rare, and this is easily understandable.
What surprises me, instead, is the fact that in the Mikel's collection there are extraordinary items (of which I hadn't even heard of), but it lacks of items easy to find and not expensive. Probably, as said, simply he has no interest in acquiring them.
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Maybe he has them, but do not present them to save time, since they are quite ordinary. Maybe he can enlighten us!
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it's possible but unlikely: among the Golden Heart collection, as example, there are some uncommon singles, some common but others, as common as the previous, are missing. Just a personal selection, I believe
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Hmmmm. Peculiar situation!
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Back in the day, I gathered a lot of Dylan "things" - releases, recordings, books, magazines, newspaper articles, posters and so on - but never really set out to collect anything and everything. Some people still do that but there are now so many "things" that it is diffcult, time-consuming and expensive. Dmg has indicated that he has narrowed his MK collecting habit down a bit and that is admirable. If anyone should choose the "anything and everything" route, please be aware of the enormity of the task. To give you some idea, maybe you would care to check out these Dylan sites:
OFFICIAL RELEASES (in all their variations): http://www.searchingforagem.com/
ALL KNOWN RECORDINGS: http://www.bjorner.com/chronologies.htm
BOOKS AND "COVER" MAGAZINES: http://michel.pomarede.pagesperso-orange.fr/CW&C/
PHOTOS: http://dylanstubs.com/pictures/index.html
DAILY NEWS: http://www.expectingrain.com/
TOURS: http://www.boblinks.com/dates.html#0609
All of the above have multiple pages and these are just a very few of the sites devoted to Dylan. Just be aware of what you are letting yourself in for.
Now, I just pick up "stuff" as I come across and keep largely to the basics (important releases and publications) and try to update my collection of old newspaper and magazine cuttings (concentrating mainly on the 1960s and 1970s). In the old days, there was something slightly romantic about getting a newspaper from some far-flung part of the world, with all their local news as well as the Dylan piece. Nowadays, it is all electronic and more mundane.
true. it is a bottomless pit, mark too, but bob is even worse to collect.
i only collect audio, hardly ever video of dylan's shows, i do not really buy books, or gadgets (of mark i do, not for bob) i collect all MK bootleg/fan recordings i can find, same shows in differentversions etc, for bob i decided to only really focus on post 87 stuff, it is simply tooo much, so i decided to focus on what i like, and no longer collect everything, of anyone..
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In the beginning the internet seemed to be a joyous occassion for all fans. But the truth is a bit different. For instance, I had a hard time finding things in Greece by MK or DS, and when I did the hard to find ones were pretty pricy. The internet in the beginning offered many things from around the world in relatively affordable prices. But once many sellers and buyers found out about internet market (ebay, discogs, abebooks etc) the prices for the easy to find items hit rock bottom, while the hard to find skyrocketed. I have almost given up searching about hard to find items for that reason. And early on, I desided that I would collect anything about MK/DS that is affordable, but mainly focus on vinyl releases. Despite that fact I have only the easy to find editions, (for example I have no South American 7'', at all-because they are overpriced). I guess it has to do with supply and demand, or to put it better in collector's terms, desire and satisfaction. But the main reason for my decision is that I love music very much to pay for overpriced items that I already have the content, when with the same money I can support and buy music from other musicians that deserve my attention.
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Not a bad little collection! ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just WOW !!!!!!!! Jbaent, do you know anything about him? IS he a friend of yours ? Any little story about him will be interesting for us.
Thanks ! Really really impressive. :clap :clap
I had the pleasure of meeting Mikel in Zurich, and then again in Barcelona... he is a very nice guy. So nice to see this collection -- and so grateful he is sharing this info with us!!! :D
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it's possible but unlikely: among the Golden Heart collection, as example, there are some uncommon singles, some common but others, as common as the previous, are missing. Just a personal selection, I believe
I saw his collection in person. He got ALL of them, peculiar or not, but he shows what he thinks its more rare.
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it's possible but unlikely: among the Golden Heart collection, as example, there are some uncommon singles, some common but others, as common as the previous, are missing. Just a personal selection, I believe
I saw his collection in person. He got ALL of them, peculiar or not, but he shows what he thinks its more rare.
Ok Julio, if you say that I have to believe it. Now we can stop this odd debate made of suppositions :) :wave
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Of course, between 2001 and 2003, if memory serves, Mikel Camps organized in Barcelona concerts of Steve Phillips, Brendan Croker, and the two of them together, in which he showed his collection to small groups of fans (obviously with a frienly connection with him), and you can be sure that you have to dig very very very very deep to find something he doesnt have. If its easy to find, he sure have it, if its hard to find, he has it too. If its impossible to find, he might take a little while to find it ;D
Seriously, he has one of the biggest collections I ever saw. I know in person three of the biggest MK collectors in planet earth, and I
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is the second one of those three the italian, whose name now escapes me? ah, no mimo, now i remember. who is the third?
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Mikel is one, the others two, are friends, so no names unless they want. :)
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is the second one of those three the italian, whose name now escapes me? ah, no mimo, now i remember. who is the third?
Yes, Mimmo is one of this three. Check the new threads as I am opening another related to him and his collection!