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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Pottel on September 11, 2014, 10:46:20 AM

Title: 1985.08.16 show
Post by: Pottel on September 11, 2014, 10:46:20 AM
little article also mentioning the straits show in san antonio,...yes, that one...
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/weekender/2014/09/best-springsteen-and-worst-vanilla-ice-municipal-auditorium-concerts/
Title: Re: 1985.08.16 show
Post by: dmg on September 11, 2014, 12:37:42 PM
Thanks very much for that Pottel.  Great information there and I will listen to that bootleg with some of those thoughts in my head now.
Title: Re: 1985.08.16 show
Post by: JF on September 11, 2014, 06:34:56 PM
yes thanks Pottel. I think the words describe very well what was attending a DS gig at the time (I imagine so..)

and nice picture with Mark playing with a pick, so must be during expresso love
Title: Re: 1985.08.16 show
Post by: Jules on September 11, 2014, 11:37:29 PM
yes thanks Pottel. I think the words describe very well what was attending a DS gig at the time (I imagine so..)

and nice picture with Mark playing with a pick, so must be during expresso love

Or tunnel of love.
Title: Re: 1985.08.16 show
Post by: JF on September 12, 2014, 07:51:44 AM
yes thanks Pottel. I think the words describe very well what was attending a DS gig at the time (I imagine so..)

and nice picture with Mark playing with a pick, so must be during expresso love

Or tunnel of love.

no, because :

1) tunnel of love was played on the sunburst strat, not the red one
2) I don't think that he uses a pick on Tunnel of love. I think he makes a "virtual" pick with his nails during the 1st part of the song, in the same way he does for the intro of so far away. I mean live. of course in the studio version, he uses a pick for the rhythm part.
Title: Re: 1985.08.16 show
Post by: ds1984 on September 12, 2014, 09:40:21 PM
yes thanks Pottel. I think the words describe very well what was attending a DS gig at the time (I imagine so..)

and nice picture with Mark playing with a pick, so must be during expresso love

Or tunnel of love.

no, because :

1) tunnel of love was played on the sunburst strat, not the red one
2) I don't think that he uses a pick on Tunnel of love. I think he makes a "virtual" pick with his nails during the 1st part of the song, in the same way he does for the intro of so far away. I mean live. of course in the studio version, he uses a pick for the rhythm part.

Mark does not use pick live on SFA  :hmm
I think he does, if I remember well I would tell you that I saw him use one at the RAH in 2008/2010.
And this the place you can't hardly be closer from him anywhere else...
Title: Re: 1985.08.16 show
Post by: JF on September 12, 2014, 10:19:50 PM
Mark does not use pick live on SFA  :hmm
I think he does, if I remember well I would tell you that I saw him use one at the RAH in 2008/2010.
And this the place you can't hardly be closer from him anywhere else...

to be more accurate about SFA live :

- 1985 : no pick, Jack Sonni playing the intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JutL-jqCjw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JutL-jqCjw)

- 2001 : no pick but intro played by Mark with his nails, while Richard playing acoustic. and then rest of the song with fingers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFwUrUhn0rs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFwUrUhn0rs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ajFxn8aSM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ajFxn8aSM)

- 2005 : idem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEEriSqsBwE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEEriSqsBwE)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atREWPHKmd0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atREWPHKmd0)

- 2006 : pick, both on intro and rest of the song  ala shangri-la
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY2IBfsamkY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY2IBfsamkY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw0r1QubJ3s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw0r1QubJ3s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6PKCaup7Os (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6PKCaup7Os)

- 2008 : idem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lPprRltS9s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lPprRltS9s)

- 2010 : pick ditched, fingers again, intro played with nails
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlMOqqbFzi4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlMOqqbFzi4)

- 2013 : idem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2SNy2dgKHk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2SNy2dgKHk)
even at the RAH :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZilWK7bqnuY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZilWK7bqnuY)

you can believe that it's a pick but it is not, it's his nails.
he does this things very often when he wants more power, e.g. at the end of MFN, or Private investigations, or during the break of TOL.

If Mark uses a pick live he kept it during the whole song (expresso love, shangri-la, fizzy and the still, SFA in 2006-2008, let it all go, TLWNF, TMTS, etc...) I never saw him alternate pick and fingers in the same song, EXCEPT for news/PI final in 80-81, he took the pick just for outro (at 4:18) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLgiVZyras4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLgiVZyras4)