A Mark In Time
Previous Albums => Tracker (2015) => Topic started by: surferboy on February 11, 2015, 09:13:32 PM
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The remaining Tracker song "Hot Dog" will be available as an exclusive bonus track from mediamarkt.de:
http://www.mediamarkt.de/mcs/product/Mark-Knopfler-Tracker-%28Exklusive-Edition---Bonustrack-Hot-Dog%29-Pop-CD,48353,463477,1844929.html?langId=-3
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Is it a physical cd or mp3 download? I don't understand Deutsch...
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Hmmm, buying the same songs again and again. Well, last time he offered 1 song exclusively from itunes and opne from amazon. Let's hope this is a physical release.
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Yes, it is a physical CD
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ordered it. curious....
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Hot dog is also "exclusively" available at Saturn in Germany.
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Sadly only for German customers.....
Tried to order it but they can't deliver it in The Netherlands
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Hot dog is also "exclusively" available at Saturn in Germany.
Saturn and MediaMarkt are the same ;)
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Hot dog is also "exclusively" available at Saturn in Germany.
Saturn and MediaMarkt are the same ;)
...mother company...
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Hot dog is also "exclusively" available at Saturn in Germany.
Saturn and MediaMarkt are the same ;)
...mother company...
Technically, yes you're right
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Should we be surprised ?
After all, the Tracker "Europe" tour is a Germany tour ::)
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Joint MK fans have decided that there will be a limited amount of applauses on the coming tour.
Applauses after each song, spontaneous cheers and callings for extra songs will only be limited to Germany.
For the rest of the tour, applauses will only be given after SOS is played. In Scandinavia, only one select member of the crowd will be allowed to give applauses. This is restricted to outdoor shows only.
And oh, if MK and the band are in the mood they might opt for the Deluxe Supportive Pack. If the setlist contains at least six crowd requests the crowd will not only cheer throughout the show but they will be stomping the ground and rolling the Mexican wave as well. The Deluxe Supportive Pack is however limited to a maximum of 5 shows per tour and year.
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Ridiculous, both, sorry to say. :disbelief
LE
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Ridiculous, both, sorry to say. :disbelief
LE
100% agree with LE
"Time in the sun" and "Your perfect song" for Get Lucky and Privateering were already extra bonus son in exclusive for Germany in 2009 and 2012, so this is not new at all. At least we can have this extra song in phisycal format instead of an mp3... although we are going to need a German helping hand for this...
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That's just stupid. Why release a song in only one country..? It makes no sense at all and it stimulates piracy, because people refuse to buy the same album twice for only one song. And I am not saying I encourage it, I do not at all. I don't understand it at all. Really strange decisions, because people will get to hear the song anyway.
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That's just stupid. Why release a song in only one country..? It makes no sense at all and it stimulates piracy, because people refuse to buy the same album twice for only one song. And I am not saying I encourage it, I do not at all. I don't understand it at all. Really strange decisions, because people will get to hear the song anyway.
Regular Germans and rest of the world fans won't know that there is a difference, and will buy the cd anyway, is just us, die hard fans, who know about it, and cares...
Maybe is a way to avoid German buying imports, offering the chance of buying the same cd but with one more song that only Germany edition has.
When STP in the USA had "Do America" instead "One More Matinee", Universal UK decided to release, just for the UK, the two songs in the cd, having three editions, the most complete only for the UK, with "Do America" only for the USA, and "One More Matinee" for all over the world editions, except USA...
Marketing things... Getting our money for nothing.
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Whis is why I will not have any Tracker CD at all. I don't need to buy 4 versions to get it all. At least they put bonuses of Deluxe Edition on 1CD!
I'm going to buy some hi-rez version in alac, if they will put it out (and I think they will do), and the rest I'll get with the magic of the internet! :wave
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With the Tracker box it's the same like with the Get Lucky box and the Privateering box, so we should know it by now.
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I really don't see the point in all the bonus tracks. There are room for three or four more songs on the "normal" CD, so if the songs are good enough for release, why don't put them there? If you think that an album is meant to be an album, where the songs are put together for a reason, are these bonus songs a part of the story? I get a feeling that something is unfinished with all these extra tracks here and there. I would rather that Mark decided which songs should be released, and that he made a complete album out of these songs. If there were a lot of tracks left, I think it would be better to release them later, in another setting, and not in addition to the normal release. It is just confusing. What is the track list for Tracker?
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I really don't see the point in all the bonus tracks. There are room for three or four more songs on the "normal" CD, so if the songs are good enough for release, why don't put them there? If you think that an album is meant to be an album, where the songs are put together for a reason, are these bonus songs a part of the story? I get a feeling that something is unfinished with all these extra tracks here and there. I would rather that Mark decided which songs should be released, and that he made a complete album out of these songs. If there were a lot of tracks left, I think it would be better to release them later, in another setting, and not in addition to the normal release. It is just confusing. What is the track list for Tracker?
Another part of the story is that gems like 'River Of Grog' would be almost digged in obscurity just because it's a bonus track!
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How I wish they had release so many bonus tracks from STP, it's been said that many great songs were left out, like Pyroman, Bonafide, Two skinny kids and many more...
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Any way is more decent that forgotten in who knows which drawer...
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I will go for the Tracker Saturn Deluxe Edition then.
I get 5 Bonus Tracks at least. So if anyone is interested and orders the Tracker Box
PM me. Then Hot Dog vs. Oklahoma & Time will ;)
Do not forget to use the Saturn newsletter to get a EUR 5 discount on orders above EUR 30.
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I will go for the Tracker Saturn Deluxe Edition then.
I get 5 Bonus Tracks at least. So if anyone is interested and orders the Tracker Box
PM me. Then Hot Dog vs. Oklahoma & Time will ;)
Do not forget to use the Saturn newsletter to get a EUR 5 discount on orders above EUR 30.
So Saturn calls it Deluxe Edition and Media Markt had only the Hot Dog track? Have you seen a track list from saturn? And how long is Hot Dog? Would be a more-than-80-minutes-CD then? Hm..
LE
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Cool thanks. Good bye amazon. ;D
LE
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I think that the whole thing has been discussed many times. Yet, the points made can all be summarized to this: Since the physical object (CD or Vinyl) are declining in sales, the record companies seek ways to make fans buy the same product multiple times.
Having said that, the same companies never paid the artists well enough for the sales and always treated their customers like wallets and never as lovers of music. So it is peculiar that only a few well known artists (Radiohead, Thom Yorke, Darren Hayman etc) prefer to break the bonds with the big companies, offering a special super deluxe edition for the fans and a "normal" issue for the rest. The rest of the artists just follow the companies' strategies. 4 or 5 different editions with extras in each and every one, clearly targeting the fans.
Usually the extra songs were used for the deluxe edition (usually issued as anniversary edition) , the B side of singles or in some cases EPs between albums. MK has not issued commercial physical singles for his Privateering and Get Lucky
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The Hot Dog Deluxe version on saturn.de is cheaper than the normal Deluxe Edition with 15 tracks. With 2 Euro shipping I pay the same for Hot Dog included than on Amazon without.
Btw Hot Dog must be in the Top 3 of the silliest song names MK has ever released. I bet the song is crap. ;)
LE
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Not too sure about the theory of making the fans buy the same Album multiple times, vgonis. I guess it is more like a wider product variation nowadays to get more people's attention really. They know how easy you can get a track for free on the internet. I agree however that the biggest and most expensive thing should have all songs in it. Plus the big retailers have the power to say give us something special or we won't offer your product at all. So they get a little song here and there. Most of the time not the best ones.. yes I know Early Bird is great.
LE
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True,
but which titles complete this list? Just curious
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He is not the first one!
http://youtu.be/kFeuBBG5yIQ
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Sounds hugely like pro-American title, something like 'Do America', which is by the way rarest MK song which I ever played on any occasion.
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Sounds hugely like pro-American title, something like 'Do America', which is by the way rarest MK song which I ever played on any occasion.
:hmm
Are you seriously thinkin' that Do America is pro-American title?
To me this sound as much pro-American as Back In The USSR was pro-Soviet.
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Both shops have the same cds at the same price.
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Yes, and both only send out parcels within Germany. How nice... :-[
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Any German friends?
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Yes, and both only send out parcels within Germany. How nice... :-[
Very nice indeed. :clap
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Yes, and both only send out parcels within Germany. How nice... :-[
Very nice indeed. :clap
If it's exclusive for Germany, unfortunately, makes sense... :(
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Yes, and both only send out parcels within Germany. How nice... :-[
Very nice indeed. :clap
If it's exclusive for Germany, unfortunately, makes sense... :(
Before long Mark Knopfler albums will be sold only in Germany and most of his European tour dates will be there too. Oh, wait... :think
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I guess it will show up on ebay and other sites offering international shipping.
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Yes, and both only send out parcels within Germany. How nice... :-[
Very nice indeed. :clap
If it's exclusive for Germany, unfortunately, makes sense... :(
Before long Mark Knopfler albums will be sold only in Germany and most of his European tour dates will be there too. Oh, wait... :think
And once those 20 German dates have sold out there will be one night only at the RAH. But the fans won't make it since they spent all their money on Lufthansa tickets and hostels.
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Yeah isn't it great to have something new to bother about Germany almost every second day... bravo, guys
:disbelief :disbelief
Is there anyone around here really considering to buy the 16-track-Deluxe-Box honestly or is it just another nice opportunity to bash the Deutschen? Who is thinking I get it from friends or illegal or via internet somewhere else anyway? I think it is not the best way to utter such nonsense as the crap that has been written here already and at the same time hope for any "German friends" to help out...
For heaven's sake, this tour has around 55 dates, and Germany has always had 10 or 11 or 12 shows from the very beginning since the earliest Dire Straits days.. so there is nothing unusual here. The most surprising thing for me is that I really take a piss about it and try to explain it here - you know, some of the folks assembled at this thread will NEVER stop to moan and lament - for example the view of another 16th track, another new MK song has not brought up ANY happy post, only lamenting....
Well done!
LE
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LE, they probably just tease. And anyway, I asked for any German friends to help out (I already got one!)
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OK Fans.
I will help out
I go to Media Markt or Saturn and will buy a CD for everyone who wants one.
You can pay me by PayPal and I will sent it out to you.
Shipping post are: EUR 3.50 unregistered and EUR 5.90 registered (recommended)
So no problem.
It is then EUR 25 per Deluxe CD incl. German Curry Wurst Hot Dog Version included.
Mark just told me if I sell more than 50 to any of you he will do a 13th german gig in Frankfurt's Jahrhunderthalle
;D ;D ;D ;D
So, PM me please
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They will moan and lament if the post is not at their homes early enough..
LE
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Of course it will be their second CD for sure. Or maybe third tracker version
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Great and generous offer from you, steinei. Respect! :thumbsup
LE
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THX LE
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Oh come on, I was being sarcastic! Tough crowd around here.
;D
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No problem.
Us too. :P
This time Mark really does 1 or 2 gigs too much here in Germany as the ticket sales are not that good as
in the past years.
But normally he plays here 11 gigs to 8500 fans each. So 100.000 in whole Germany. So why not play a lot here???
He also plays 4 norwegian concerts.
4 gigs 5 mio people
12 gigs 80 mio people
everythings okay I think
anyway. ticket sales suffer a bit here. Maybe when Tracker is out...
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My sincere apologies if anyone got offended. The ceiling can't be that low around here nowadays?
But isn't it quite obvious that the thing about MK and Germany anno 2015 is reaching humorous proportions and we're all having a laugh about it?
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Well if you look at the number of shows in UK considering its size, I dont think 12 German shows is too much. (but I'm quite surprised he only plays 2 French cities this time)
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LE, there's nothing against you or against Germany.
Personally I love Germany, I have german relatives and I'm going to several shows in Germany.
I don't like the marketing strategy -tour and records.
Not because you have too much but because we think we are a fifth wheel.
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Well if you look at the number of shows in UK considering its size, I dont think 12 German shows is too much. (but I'm quite surprised he only plays 2 French cities this time)
12 German shows is a fair number but only 4 in France (and much less in surrounding cities like Luxembourg, Basel, Brighton, Monaco ) that's really low.
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Well if you look at the number of shows in UK considering its size, I dont think 12 German shows is too much. (but I'm quite surprised he only plays 2 French cities this time)
12 German shows is a fair number but only 4 in France (and much less in surrounding cities like Luxembourg, Basel, Brighton, Monaco ) that's really low.
Its all very strange, I've been to every Brighton gig since 2001 and they always look sold out. Before that I went to Bournemouth and again it was rammed. I would love to know the thinking behind this tour.
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:clap :wave :clap :thumbsup
OK Fans.
I will help out
I go to Media Markt or Saturn and will buy a CD for everyone who wants one.
You can pay me by PayPal and I will sent it out to you.
Shipping post are: EUR 3.50 unregistered and EUR 5.90 registered (recommended)
So no problem.
It is then EUR 25 per Deluxe CD incl. German Curry Wurst Hot Dog Version included.
Mark just told me if I sell more than 50 to any of you he will do a 13th german gig in Frankfurt's Jahrhunderthalle
;D ;D ;D ;D
So, PM me please
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Bravo Steinei for your kind gesture! As I mentioned before I believe that the CDs will eventually pop up on ebay, discogs and various sites, that ship worldwide. Such special versions rarely are decisions straight from the artist, so no reason blaming MK, the Germans or the universe conspiring against everybody else. I would say there are many reasons for such releases. For example, if there was motive enough, other countries would issue similar special editions. Let's not forget that profits from record sales are down to almost zero for most artists. They make a living from live shows. (my radio plays cannibals! coincidence!)
Universal does a little trick for some years now, issuing special editions in many country of the world (that estimates that would boost the sales). So collectors from all over the world will have to buy dozens times a CD with minor differences but almost always no extra or hard to find tracks.
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To anyone offended by my comment I apologise. It was meant in jest and was merely a jibe at the mismanagement of the tour, nothing to do with the wonderful people or country of Germany whatsoever.
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:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Rumor reported by the Wall Street Journal:
A special edition in France will include a song called 'Baguette'
A special edition in Italy will include a song called 'Pizza and Spaghetti'
A special edition in Greece will include a song called 'Dire Straits'
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
In Italy, we could also get an extra bonus track, only in selected music shops that will never be revealed, with the remixed version 'Mafia and Calcio and Pizza and Spaghetti' , .....just to remind of the first song of the album 'Laughs And Jokes And Drinks And Smokes'
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You laugh here, but it could be seriously a cool idea. I remember Paul McCartney's thing when he created a country-voting system, when there was a vote in each country on which songs people want to hear the most, and he played this exclusive setlists in each country in his concert schedule. For instance, Ukraine voted for
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Just a joke from steinei.. Let us all not be too sensitive of our own country. I mean: everybody in the world thinks all Dutch people are stoned on weed 24/7 and that all of us are farmers, eat 5000kg of cheese each year, and have tulips everywhere. So let's be friends together and talk about our wonderful passion!
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Just a joke from steinei.. Let us all not be too sensitive of our own country. I mean: everybody in the world thinks all Dutch people are stoned on weed 24/7 and that all of us are farmers, eat 5000kg of cheese each year, and have tulips everywhere. So let's be friends together and talk about our wonderful passion!
Now, now, holaknopfler, don't hide either your grass or cheese. We want them both. We will imagine you are whatever you want and probably we will see tulips, roses and all flora when we get stoned. And certainly we will become friends, but I fear we won't even care about our common passion.
@foma. The Rolling stones do this voting thing for many years. Greece had voted for "She's a rainbow" and they obliged!
And Bon Jovi, Michael Jackson, Scorpions and many pop artists have released special editions for Greece with the songs that had become hits in Greece. Beatles did that first, in the late 70ies, by issuing different compilations for USA and UK.
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Just a joke from steinei.. Let us all not be too sensitive of our own country. I mean: everybody in the world thinks all Dutch people are stoned on weed 24/7 and that all of us are farmers, eat 5000kg of cheese each year, and have tulips everywhere. So let's be friends together and talk about our wonderful passion!
Yeah. Was only joking of course. But not everyone here likes joking. So I removed my post.
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OK. Let's get back to Bonus tracks again.
I am selling some things for a friend of mine.
On ebay.de
Privateering Bonus tracks CD, if anyone is interested in having the Bonus Tracks: Here is your Chance
A Life in Songs DVD
Brothers in Arms Falklands CD, One Track
Just have a glimpse...
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OK. Let's get back to Bonus tracks again.
I am selling some things for a friend of mine.
On ebay.de
Privateering Bonus tracks CD, if anyone is interested in having the Bonus Tracks: Here is your Chance
A Life in Songs DVD
Brothers in Arms Falklands CD, One Track
Just have a glimpse...
Lovely. If the BiA was cheaper I would consider it. Why not post them at "for sale" thread.
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Sure I did that also.
See PM
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Hi Vgonis,
Here is your Chance is a bonus track in Privateering? At now I never heard that.
??? ??? ???
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Steinei means that if you want the bonus tracks included in the box set, you have a chance of buying it now from him. :wave
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Thanks
:thumbsup
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Can we buy this somehow outside Germany but in the EU ?
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Can we buy this somehow outside Germany but in the EU ?
The physical object from amazon UK, it, fr, es.
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Don't see where I can buy this on amazon? If anyone could PM me to assist it would be appreciated.
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Can the moderators do something about this discussion happening in two threads?
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Continue in the song topic:
http://amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=4099.0 (http://amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=4099.0)
This one will be locked