A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: emilianomk on March 30, 2009, 12:33:16 AM
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Hi, I was passing the time on the internet and I found this
Im almost sure that this is a fake
http://www.goear.com/listen/c05c35a/get-lucky-knopfler
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Hi emilianomk
Could well be but I wonder how it could have surfaced if it is MK?
Sounds very much like MK's playing style to me?? ::)
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Hmm, well I'm going to call fake. The playing is very good and the tone is close, but the guitar is too distorted to sound exactly like MK's usual tone - quite an easy mistake to make.
Also, if you listen to the other clips posted by this user, they are of a MK tribute band.
And then when you put the user name into youtube you get videos of the band:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K13kmLvNp_c
So fake I think. :)
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;) Good detective work Dusty. I was going to follow up on the poster's other contributions but got called away for a while. :o
I have since listened to it on my best headphones and it has a strange crackle similar to that which you get from something cut onto a vinyl recording which only deepens the mystery, but I'm starting to lean towards your conclusion and say fake also... :-\
As you said, there are quite a few clips from sultans of cream on youtube also...
EDIT:- A bit more digging and now I'm convinced it is not MK... SOC has also done an extended version (overdub outro) to Hill Farmer's Blues ......same distortion.
Listen here:-http://www.goear.com/listen/97f0b7d/hill-farmer-blues-(extended)-MARK-KNOPFLER.
He also has a recording of MK's Duet contribution to that Charity album which was discussed here on another thread :-Sarah
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That's what i though, "fake" btw the melody is nice...
I wonder how fake it is... maybe he attended the last "hidden" show recorded and kept for himself the "getlucky" tune... and well no idea...
Do you think it could sound this way? or is it TOTALY fake?
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Exciting! I think it sounds great anyway! Maybe someone in SOC visited the Garrick Club that night? I actually hope so... I want to hear more of this track! :)
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If it IS fake, then I really hope the real "Get Lucky" sounds something similar! ;) This has a feeling of "Silvertown Blues" about it to me. :)
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I have a feeling that this have something to do with the real "Get lucky". Why would a cover band post a link and try to make people believe that this is "Get lucky" if it is something else? In my ears it could have been made by Mark. It sounds great. :)
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maybe he attended the last "hidden" show recorded and kept for himself the "getlucky" tune... and well no idea...
Do you think it could sound this way? or is it TOTALY fake?
Just my opinion, but I think it's totally fake. We'll see.
With the greatest of resepct to our friends in Sultans of Cream, they don't look like they would be members of The Garrick Club. They're not wearing ties for one thing.
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I thought this thread was about online dating agencies ;D
Fake or real? Time will tell! I won't listen, just in case it is real, don't want to hear anything of the new album before I get my hands on it!
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It is totally fake, and Guy is very angry, ( a friend told me) ...
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It is totally fake, and Guy is very angry, ( a friend told me) ...
True. Guy has confirmed that this has nothing to do with the real "Get lucky"...
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Well, Sultans of Cream is a famous and wonderful DS/EC tribute band, which I highly praise, respect and recommend. I've known them for years. This recording is from theirs, and I guess they didn't wanna make a fake one to fool us, it's just one way how Spanish fans express their eager to that song, even if we still have not got the chance to have a listen to that song. Like us, they knew the song title, and with their inspiring imagination to express that song with Knopfler style and in their shape.
Wishes
Allen
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It is totally fake, and Guy is very angry, ( a friend told me) ...
True. Guy has confirmed that this has nothing to do with the real "Get lucky"...
Did he confirm it on his forum page or by pm - I've looked on his site & I cant find anything about it?????
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It is totally fake, and Guy is very angry, ( a friend told me) ...
True. Guy has confirmed that this has nothing to do with the real "Get lucky"...
Did he confirm it on his forum page or by pm - I've looked on his site & I cant find anything about it?????
A friend mailed the link to Guy. He replied and said that it was totally a fake...
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This recording is from theirs, and I guess they didn't wanna make a fake one to fool us, it's just one way how Spanish fans express their eager to that song, even if we still have not got the chance to have a listen to that song. Like us, they knew the song title, and with their inspiring imagination to express that song with Knopfler style and in their shape.
I'm sorry Allen I don't agree with you, because they shared it like if it was a real MK song as they did for the extented Hill farmers blues (and maybe other songs)... MK never recorded that... or i've slept for years...
IMHO it's really stupid and they should be "punished" for that kind of behaviour
Maybe I write that because i'm very desapointed . Their melody is nice anyway ...
Cheers
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This is the same person, Nico de Cadi, who said to Guy on his forum that Sultans was a disaster on the 2008 tour. Guy's answer was "rubbish" and I would have to agree with that. He also implied that the band should practice more and leave DS songs alone!
I think this person thinks he can, perhaps, do a better job than MK! (In his dreams!) I thought the melody was nice and played in MK's "style", but to pass it off as MK's work was most definitely wrong imo!
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Yup, it's a stupid thing to do, what a bunch of cocks.
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This is the same person, Nico de Cadi, who said to Guy on his forum that Sultans was a disaster on the 2008 tour. Guy's answer was "rubbish" and I would have to agree with that. He also implied that the band should practice more and leave DS songs alone!
I think this person thinks he can, perhaps, do a better job than MK! (In his dreams!) I thought the melody was nice and played in MK's "style", but to pass it off as MK's work was most definitely wrong imo!
I know Nico, and I recall exactly what happened with that "Get lucky" thing, it was just a private joke for the spanish city mailing list, he is a goear user and thats why he uploaded it there. No intention to be searched and finded by anyone else except all the people from spanish city who received the joke mail with the link.
He is a splendid guitar player as well.
And I agree 100% with the idea of practizing more, I
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mmm, will this turn in a "sultans is not played as fast anymore" kinda discussion?
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mmm, will this turn in a "sultans is not played as fast anymore" kinda discussion?
No, it
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I'm sorry you didn't enjoy any of the "Sultans" on the tour. I really enjoyed the ones that I heard in all four of my concerts and especially the two I attended in Amsterdam. Two of my favourite performances, though, are from Red Rocks and Charlotte and I listen regularly to both of those a lot for the pure pleasure they give me, not just because I am a fan! I have listened to both of those this morning, in fact. If you don't like them, then I'm afraid that's your problem, not mine or anybody else's who happens to enjoy them. That's how it is with music! :)
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Well I enjoyed Sultans and I don't think MK had to play it - he doesn't have to play anything anymore. He's already dropped tracks like Money for Nothing and Walk of Life so he could easily drop Sultans, but he clearly doesn't want to.
As for practising, if the band had practised more, surely they would have played Sultans even more often and would be bored of it, making their playing even more "lifeless", so you're two arguments contradict each other I'm afraid. :)
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As for practising, if the band had practised more, surely they would have played Sultans even more often and would be bored of it, making their playing even more "lifeless", so you're two arguments contradict each other I'm afraid. :)
In the contrary, Sultans versions this days are full of mistakes. Some people talk about improvisation, but when you improvise there is something is needed. PRACTICE, if you don
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The version played on the GH tour was quite different. It was much longer and had the quiet part in the middle - I loved it! Then for STP tour, Mark wanted to get back to how it was in the beginning with a four-piece band, much as it is now. For some reason, though, I much prefer SOS played on this tour than either STP or Shangri-La. I was listening to Chicago 2001 the other day and there were a great many more errors there than on KTGC! Although I am a great fan, I am also very critical and don't blindly accept everything as great! ;) The fact that I like and enjoy something, is all that matters btw! ;)
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The version played on the GH tour was quite different. It was much longer and had the quiet part in the middle - I loved it! Then for STP tour, Mark wanted to get back to how it was in the beginning with a four-piece band, much as it is now. For some reason, though, I much prefer SOS played on this tour than either STP or Shangri-La. I was listening to Chicago 2001 the other day and there were a great many more errors there than on KTGC! Although I am a great fan, I am also very critical and don't blindly accept everything as great! ;) The fact that I like and enjoy something, is all that matters btw! ;)
Val, you are right, STP versions has two kinf of perfomances, one when MK play a mix all the solos from the original 1978 live version and some of the DS long version exactly in the same way always been played, and the other Sultan perfomance was one in which MK improvise. That versions are the ones full of errors, but in the versions played as always the versions are OK. The GH tour was a new idea of the song, with a more jazzistic interlude and little by little, the song goes faster and faster till the version we knoe from Alchemy, BIA tour etc etc, and it was very enjoyable.
The latest versions are played in a way that looks he
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Julio, I enjoy things because of the fact they are good and make me feel extremely happy too! I don't want to analyze the music when I'm at a concert - enjoyment is a spontaneous thing, it makes you feel good or it doesn't! :)
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Well, each to their own, personally I would prefer some improvisation with a few mistakes coming in to overly rehearsed stuff with the same solos every night. You really think MK needs to practise the scales for Sultans at the age of 59, having played it thousands of times over the last 30 years? Sorry, but I think not. :)
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Well, each to their own, personally I would prefer some improvisation with a few mistakes coming in to overly rehearsed stuff with the same solos every night. You really think MK needs to practise the scales for Sultans at the age of 59, having played it thousands of times over the last 30 years? Sorry, but I think not. :)
Listening how he get lost in the solos, playing wrong notes etc etc, I guess you are wrong ;D
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The rapturous appluase every night after Sultans would perhaps suggest that, in fact, it is YOU that is wrong, but I think seeing as music is subjective we must say simply that there is no wrong or right on this issue and that we just have different opinions. :)
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I agree with jbaent in mid, because we are fans and listening Sultans is always a pleasure, but we are fans with ears.
For me at the RAH he played very well, in Milano the final part of the song was a disaster: too slow, too mistakes and no flow of execution.
I don't agree with jbaent in one point: the Great Master of every time, need practice to play Sultans? ???
But in the other side:
- if a friend asks you "give me the best SOS live version", who of you would reccomend one of the KTGCtour version?
Marco
Sorry for my poor english, i hope you understand what i said.
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If I had to choose the best SOS of all time, then, no I wouldn't choose one from KTGC, I would probably choose Basel '92 or perhaps A Night in London, but certainly there were very good renditions on the KTGC tour, just as there were not so good ones on previous tours like STP and Shangri-La.
It doesn't seem to have anything to do with MK getting older and his fingers not being so nimble, either because I have enjoyed some of the best TR's on the KTGC tour and his fingers were flying! :)
If I wanted to hear perfection every time, I would listen to the album, but I don't very much these days. I prefer listening to some of the wonderful recordings from the various tours. They may not be perfect every time, but I find them more interesting.
I also think some folk are looking back through rose-tinted spectacles, saying MK is not what he used to be. Even the much-lauded Rockpalast was not perfect, but it was non-the-less extremely enjoyable and a wonderful show to look back on.
Whatever, the audience always seem to enjoy hearing SOS played and so do I. :) Relish the moment while it's happening! :D
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The only thing i can say it's that the KTGC tour was, for me, the best of the tree (four) last tours.
Because of Hill Farmer Blues, Postcards, Going Home, The fish and the bird, S-La, BIA and autstandings versions of Speedway and for many more reasons (Mark himself looking better).
I allways looking forward: i don't compare Mark 2008 to Mark 92, 78 ecc...to that?
Now i'm looking for the autumn, for the new album and for another marvellous tour.
but, can i say that i don 't liked the SOS version of the last tour?
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Geordieboy, I enjoyed KTGC very much too, for much the same reasons as you. It was certainly one of my favourite tours, along with the Shangri-La tour and, especially Golden Heart. Of course, you can say you didn't like SOS fro the KTGC tour, everyone is entitled to give their own opinion and we are all different.
I'm looking forward very much to the next tour, too! :D
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Of course, you can say you didn't like SOS fro the KTGC tour, everyone is entitled to give their own opinion and we are all different.
It wasn my intention to create unnecessary controversy. It was only a rhetorical question, not against you ;D
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I don't think anyone took your comments personally, Geordieboy. We all respect one another's opinions here. I think even Mark himself would be critical of some of his own performances. That is why he looks ahead. He is so good, and such a genius, that he probably knows as he is playing the song that he wants to do it differently next time.
This forum is for your being able to express you opinion. You are doing just fine. Your English is good, much better than my Italian! :)
You are welcome here and your opinions are welcome. Keep writing!
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Well, each to their own, personally I would prefer some improvisation with a few mistakes coming in to overly rehearsed stuff with the same solos every night. You really think MK needs to practise the scales for Sultans at the age of 59, having played it thousands of times over the last 30 years? Sorry, but I think not. :)
Listening how he get lost in the solos, playing wrong notes etc etc, I guess you are wrong ;D
i know what you mean julio,...but they are his songs, he can do with them what he wants, noodle around, make mistakes, most of the times it is when you try something different that you make a mistake. just my 2cents...
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The only thing i can say it's that the KTGC tour was, for me, the best of the tree (four) last tours.
Because of Hill Farmer Blues, Postcards, Going Home, The fish and the bird, S-La, BIA and autstandings versions of Speedway and for many more reasons (Mark himself looking better).
I allways looking forward: i don't compare Mark 2008 to Mark 92, 78 ecc...to that?
Now i'm looking for the autumn, for the new album and for another marvellous tour.
but, can i say that i don 't liked the SOS version of the last tour?
yup GBoy, kinda agree, great tour. no comment on the SOS performance form me.
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Geordieboy, I understand, I know what you meant and it's really nice to hear your opinions. I certainly didn't take what you said personally. :)
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This forum is for your being able to express you opinion. You are doing just fine. Your English is good, much better than my Italian! :)
You are welcome here and your opinions are welcome. Keep writing!
Many thanks for all your words.
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Looks like they have been at it again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pPk-unFJ8c
Mark Knopfler New ALBUM GET LUCKY 2009. COVER OF ONE OF THE NEW SONG OF THE ALBUM GET LUCKY WITH THE PENSA SUHR
Another You-tuber claiming to be doing a cover of one of the new songs from Get Lucky.
We
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Baloney again... ;D
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Well, I just posted a comment making my views clear. :)
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God, what a fool .He may have some guitar skills but that doesn't mean he can promote himself by doing stupid covers of songs that haven't been released yet.Shame on him.
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God, what a fool .He may have some guitar skills but that doesn't mean he can promote himself by doing stupid covers of songs that haven't been released yet.Shame on him.
Hey hey, a little respect here
He is not guilty that there are so many crazy chasers in the world, he has a goear account and he made this just as a joke to spanish fans in the spanish city mailing list, everybody laugh about it in the spanish city list. Is his fault that there are so many people looking under every stone in every dust road in the world just to find out as many scoops as possible and that this people believe themself as capable to judge something they already doesn
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jbant, we are talking about the "new" supposed Get Lucky cover that is on youtube, not the original one that was a "private" joke. :)
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Well in the words of the great Monkees song - "I'm a Believer" - isnt it against the law NOT to believe EVERYTHING you see on the internet..... ;D
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jbant, we are talking about the "new" supposed Get Lucky cover that is on youtube, not the original one that was a "private" joke. :)
I see, but, do you know the story behind that Get lucky cover anyway?
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Is this a new promo pic?
http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee132/marky66_photos/Get%20Lucky/?action=view¤t=knopfler-pic--main.jpg
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Judging from the hairline, it may be.
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looks great !!!
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GREAT picture! Now we want more 8) By the way, is there a drooling thread somewhere in this forum? Haven't looked through all the threads yet.
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http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=102.0
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Thanks for posting the link, marky. Just when I thought he couldn't get any cuter! That man just keeps getting better with age ...... in every respect. :-* :-*
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Mmm, I think it's a lovely picture, but it seems to me to resemble some of the ATRR promo pics.
Just had a look at the interview with MK and Emmylou on thr RLRR DVD and it seems to be the same room and also the Chesterfield sofa can be seen too, so I would guess that it's an old picture. ???
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couldn't agree more with Joanzimm !! Mark just looks great in that picture. He ages very well . ;) wonder what his secret is ? Actually he always looks great no matter at what age. Such a charismatic personality!!!
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You gals are funny. If you didn't know who he was and he walked past you in the street you wouldn't look twice at him!
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I think that's probably true, dusty. I remember all the hundreds of people walking right past him when he was at Hay and no-one gave him a second glance - except for me, of course! I was rooted to the spot, only six feet away from him, completely mesmerized! Yes, he was GORGEOUS!! ;)
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I saw an interesting documentary on TV the other night about music and what it does to your brain. They mentioned that women are naturally attracted to musicians, can
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I agree it look like the room interview with EH...and maybe the same blazer....
we'll have to wait for real promo pictures :D
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I can't wait for the new promo pics.
They always make great wallpaper for my computer. ;D ;)
BTW. That's the only thing i've got in common with MK...... Getting better looking with age. hehehehe.! :-*
Cheers BBB
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Ahh, thanks for the link to the Drool Section!! Holy cow, what took me so long to get there? No DROOL THEAD is complete without me, LOL! Need to thumb through 13 pages now!! ;D
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You're probably right, after carefully studying that photo -- A LOT -- I don't think it's a new promo pic either.
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Hehe, I like how you emphasize the A LOT! ;D Hmm... Maybe they just chose the same setting? Hmm...
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Roller girl. Absolutely true ! At least for me. especially a musician like MK. hehehe....
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There are a lot of topics about new album... so I decided to post here. Just checked the web:
Get lucky versions:
EU standard edition:
CD
Mercury Rec.
Cat.: 602527086712
ASIN: B002C6K86G
US edition:
CD
Warner Bros.
Cat.: 093624974628
ASIN: B002ELM5HY
Limited digipack
CD+DVD
Mercury Rec.
Cat.: 62527086743
ASIN: B0029RQE84
Delux boxset
CD+DVD
Mercury Rec.
Cat.: 602527086750
ASIN: B002DPA55A
This listing does not include vinyl, it is not announced yet.
Reffering to new promo pic. Perhaps it's taken here: http://www.royalalberthall.com/tickets/mark-knopfler/default.aspx
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So we get a CD + DVD. I would guess that it will be the EPK again.
Nice, but I had hoped for a recording of the 2008 tour in the Deluxe versions. :'(
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I just looked at Amazon.co.uk:
Get Lucky Digipack CD+ DVD Deluxe Edition
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agree with you Val, this does not make any sense at all!! Is digipack a download maybe?
and
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LOL Rollergirl - perhaps MK is distributing the Boxed Set to us personally! :o
Just looked up "digipack" and it seems that it is a cardboard gate-fold pack for CDs and DVDs!
So the
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85 quid! Crazy.
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Would be interesting to know if there is a difference between the standard US version and the european version, I mean track-wise?
Love Expresso
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Would be interesting to know if there is a difference between the standard US version and the european version, I mean track-wise?
Love Expresso
Possible, but I doubt it. I know they did it with STP, but that was what record companies were doing back then to try to convince people to pay high US/UK prices for the extra tracks instead of buying online from Hong Kong and places like that. The record industry has moved on now with downloading and stuff so I don't think MK would bother with that now.
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Would be interesting to know if there is a difference between the standard US version and the european version, I mean track-wise?
Love Expresso
I think there is not any difference. Just Warner's release for North America.
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There are a lot of topics about new album... so I decided to post here. Just checked the web:
Get lucky versions:
EU standard edition:
CD
Mercury Rec.
Cat.: 602527086712
ASIN: B002C6K86G
US edition:
CD
Warner Bros.
Cat.: 093624974628
ASIN: B002ELM5HY
Limited digipack
CD+DVD
Mercury Rec.
Cat.: 62527086743
ASIN: B0029RQE84
Delux boxset
CD+DVD
Mercury Rec.
Cat.: 602527086750
ASIN: B002DPA55A
This listing does not include vinyl, it is not announced yet.
Reffering to new promo pic. Perhaps it's taken here: http://www.royalalberthall.com/tickets/mark-knopfler/default.aspx
On this site the deluxe edition (EAN 0602527086750) is reported to be 4 Discs
http://www.lafeltrinelli.it/products/0602527086750/Get_Lucky/Knopfler_Mark.html?prkw=get%20lucky&srch=0&cat1=3&prm=
80 euro would be exaggerate for just a Lim. Ed. CD + DVD (even with dice & chips)
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This website has better offer for us ;D We will see
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I really am hoping there are 4 discs in the boxed set and that Amazon are wrong with their info! Let's wait in hope! :)
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I'm kind of curious to find out which realeases will be sold where. Last time, the special edition CD/DVD of KtGC was only sold in one store here in the US and was not sold at all in some European countries. The One Take Radio Sessions of some of the Shangri-La songs was also sold only here with a slightly different track list- the Europe edition was different. And the special edition of Ragpicker's Dream with the bonus CD was sold in Canada, but not here. This is just off the top of my head, I'm sure there are many more examples...
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Universal Music has the right to release Mark's albums worldwide including Canada and excluding US.
Warner provides MK/DS releases for US market only. All limited and special editions released by Universal are avialable in US as IMPORT only.
As far as I know the KTGC CD/DVD limited edition by Warner was deleted, but first print was sold. Canada is Universal's market.
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Well I enjoyed Sultans and I don't think MK had to play it - he doesn't have to play anything anymore. He's already dropped tracks like Money for Nothing and Walk of Life so he could easily drop Sultans, but he clearly doesn't want to.
As for practising, if the band had practised more, surely they would have played Sultans even more often and would be bored of it, making their playing even more "lifeless", so you're two arguments contradict each other I'm afraid. :)
Mark will always play Sultans even if it is just to keep those fans (most of us I presume?) happy that are lost without the 'fiddly bit' as he calls it in the last solo:-)
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I saw an interesting documentary on TV the other night about music and what it does to your brain. They mentioned that women are naturally attracted to musicians, can
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I just looked at Amazon.co.uk:
Get Lucky Digipack CD+ DVD Deluxe Edition
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Universal Music has the right to release Mark's albums worldwide including Canada and excluding US.
Warner provides MK/DS releases for US market only. All limited and special editions released by Universal are avialable in US as IMPORT only.
As far as I know the KTGC CD/DVD limited edition by Warner was deleted, but first print was sold. Canada is Universal's market.
Thanks, I didn't know that.
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the deluxe box set will contain: 2x Vinyl, Poker Chips, Craps Dice, Guitar Tab, Classic Gig Ticket, CD/DVD, Bonus CD.
From Salvador Design.
That is pretty cool
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thanks Jeroen, shit I'm gonna have to get it now, a bonus CD! The rest I can live without but I'm gonna have to get it just for the bonus CD. Although it will be nice to have some vinyl editions I s'pose. But they can keep the dice and the chips and the guitar tab (although hubby might like that, I guess that's his Christmas pressie sorted LOL)
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It depends what the bonus CD is. Presuming it is one of the 2008 concerts, if I already have downloaded it, I'll stick with the digipack at
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I'm a bit disappointed: I was waiting for a 2cd live. Vinyl is nice but I really don't need it, the same for the other goodies. I would be interested just in the Bonus cd, but will it deserve a difference of 70
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the deluxe box set will contain: 2x Vinyl, Poker Chips, Craps Dice, Guitar Tab, Classic Gig Ticket, CD/DVD, Bonus CD.
From Salvador Design.
That is pretty cool
All this for
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the deluxe box set will contain: 2x Vinyl, Poker Chips, Craps Dice, Guitar Tab, Classic Gig Ticket, CD/DVD, Bonus CD.
From Salvador Design.
That is pretty cool
All this for
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I wouldn't say it's a rip off either if you want all those bits. How much would all of that cost if you bought it separately?
Gig ticket:
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Mmmm Rollergirl, do you think it is a ticket to a gig? It seemed to me to be a copy of a classic gig ticket like the Mandela concert, perhaps!
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I don't know, that's the first thing that came to mind and would justify the price of the deluxe box. If it's only a piece of paper with no value as such (I mean, I cherish my gig tickets but only because they remind me of the gig I went to....), then
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Let's hope it's a real ticket! ;)
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I don't believe it will be a real ticket: when I've read "classic gig ticket" I thought to a copy (photocopy?) of the Alchemy ticket (but I doubt it will be). Even without the ticket the price is right:
Vinyl
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From Salvador: The ticket will be a limited edition replica from a Knopfler gig. Nice collectors item.
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Thinking along the casino line thingy,it might be a ticket from a show in Vegas - has MK played in Vegas????? ::)
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He played in Vegas in 2008.
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From Salvador: The ticket will be a limited edition replica from a Knopfler gig. Nice collectors item.
I was waiting for this: when I said "Alchemy" I was quite sure that the DS era wouldn't have been brushed up ;D
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OMG. I'm a real sucker for box sets.
Count me in. ;D
I wonder how many will be available?
I do agree it's a crazy price, but i'm a crazy knopflerholic. ;D
Most artists i like, i would probably only ever buy the standard edition, but i did buy the deluxe version, full of goodies, for the Dave Gilmour 'Live at Gadansk' box set.
And MK is the only other artist i would spend silly money on, to get the best version.
Cheers BBB
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Great news, the only thing that bothers me is the (obviously quite expensive) vinyl! I don
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I don
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I hope we find out what the bonus CD actually contains, before we order/buy. It may be an absolute must-have! On the other hand, it may be something we can do without, because as previously said it is a VERY expensive bonus CD! :-\
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maybe someone can try guy's forum??
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maybe someone can try guy's forum??
Is that your answer to everything? ;D
I think someone (many someones ;D) have asked before and the answer is either 1) I don't know 2) I can't say
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Maybe there is a (get) lucky golden ticket that entitles 5 people access to Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory! Or Markie Knopfla's Recording Studio:-)
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I just wonder how many people are actually interested in a boxset like this one. A behind the scenes DVD and a live CD from last tour is juicy stuff, but a copy of and old concert ticket? Dice? Chips? Ridiculous. Seems like the die hard fans are being screwed this time around. If that's what's needed to get some extra music, that's fine, but I suspect the sales on a deluxe box set like this one will be pretty low.
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david gilmour did something similar on his live in gdansk deluxe dvd+cd box set, i was happy to get a dg plectrum.
i think i am crazy enough to buy this set too, no matter what price. that is the price you pay for being a knopfler nut...
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That's right Pottel, the Gilmour DVD set was awesome - but he did in fact release TWO live DVDs of his last tour, Remember That Night and Live in Gdansk. The pick and the postcards were just little extras. I'm far more interested in OFFICIAL live recordings, audio and video, but MK apparently is NOT. And I think this is a big mistake, marketing-wise. IMO he needs better counselors anyway regarding promo stuff etc.
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That's right Pottel, the Gilmour DVD set was awesome - but he did in fact release TWO live DVDs of his last tour, Remember That Night and Live in Gdansk. The pick and the postcards were just little extras. I'm far more interested in OFFICIAL live recordings, audio and video, but MK apparently is NOT. And I think this is a big mistake, marketing-wise. IMO he needs better counselors anyway regarding promo stuff etc.
I wonder just how many people are aware of MKs contractual obligations to record labels and distributors etc.
I certainly am not aware of what they are but most musicians are not in total control of their music. They have no rights as to where and when something is released/distributed/published and by whom.
MK will probably be different because he is streetwise and has amassed a great deal of wealth that he can pick and choose who he signs to.
I would doubt there is anybody here that has seen a copy of a signed contract therefore no one can really criticise something if they don't understand it. Perhaps the boxed sets aren't of his doing - perhaps he will gain nothing from them other than what he is due for the mechanical/intellectual sale of 1 CD in each set and by the sounds of it this will not be many.
Whatever the reason though it will affect people's perceptions of him.
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I will pay the price and get the boxed set although the only thing I want is the music and/or video. The other stuff is junk to me ???
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yes, I think it will be lottery.... Some boxset should include a prize. Pay $200 and get lucky ;)
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Simon, you're right of course, I don't think MK is that much involved in those boxsets and how they look like. I think he doesn't even know they want to pack some chips and dice in there. BUT I do know that he doesn't seem to be very keen on live DVDs or CDs and I think that is a problem. The market is there. And people would prefer DVDs over dice anytime!
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maybe someone can try guy's forum??
Is that your answer to everything? ;D
I think someone (many someones ;D) have asked before and the answer is either 1) I don't know 2) I can't say
damn, you caught me...
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Simon, you're right of course, I don't think MK is that much involved in those boxsets and how they look like. I think he doesn't even know they want to pack some chips and dice in there. BUT I do know that he doesn't seem to be very keen on live DVDs or CDs and I think that is a problem. The market is there. And people would prefer DVDs over dice anytime!
I do think he knows about the dice and chips because Salvador once said that he send the cover and all the art to Mark and his Management for approvel.
I think that the management decided to make a box set and that Mark liked that idea.? I did mailed the management for a tracklist from the bonus cd but haven't got an answer yet.....
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I will pay the price and get the boxed set although the only thing I want is the music and/or video. The other stuff is junk to me ???
+1. Although it depends what is on the bonus CD.
MK is probably laughing his arse off. "So they want a recording of the last tour then? OK, they can have it... for and extra
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Is this a new promo pic?
http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee132/marky66_photos/Get%20Lucky/?action=view¤t=knopfler-pic--main.jpg
On the RAH site, where they are advertising tix for next year, they use this very pic.
Surely this must be a new promo pic for the 'Get Lucky' album.
The Daily Telegraph also used the pic today in their advert fot the RAH gigs in 2010.
Cheers BBB
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I will pay the price and get the boxed set although the only thing I want is the music and/or video. The other stuff is junk to me ???
+1. Although it depends what is on the bonus CD.
MK is probably laughing his arse off. "So they want a recording of the last tour then? OK, they can have it... for and extra
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Is this a new promo pic?
http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee132/marky66_photos/Get%20Lucky/?action=view¤t=knopfler-pic--main.jpg
On the RAH site, where they are advertising tix for next year, they use this very pic.
Surely this must be a new promo pic for the 'Get Lucky' album.
The Daily Telegraph also used the pic today in their advert fot the RAH gigs in 2010.
Cheers BBB
Are you guys sure? I haven't seen it before too but to me it looks more like a leftover pic from the ATRR promo shoots because the setting looks familiar (the sofa) and MK wears the same clothes.
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I will pay the price and get the boxed set although the only thing I want is the music and/or video. The other stuff is junk to me ???
+1. Although it depends what is on the bonus CD.
MK is probably laughing his arse off. "So they want a recording of the last tour then? OK, they can have it... for and extra
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I am pretty certain the picture is from ATRR. Remember the picture used for KTGC (outside theatres, etc), the one with MK sitting on a throne? That was an old one too, even though lots of new, gorgeous, pictures had been taken! I think the promo people like to kid us he is looking younger every year, LOL! I love him just as he is - they don't need to go back in time. :P
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Agree with you Val :D we love him like he is :D
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WOW! 2LP, CD/DVD, bonus CD
http://twitter.com/SalvadorDesign
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WOW! 2LP, CD/DVD, bonus CD
http://twitter.com/SalvadorDesign
Not sure why the ticket should become a collectors item. If any 'collector' wants one they can buy the box set surely?
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WOW! 2LP, CD/DVD, bonus CD
http://twitter.com/SalvadorDesign
Not sure why the ticket should become a collectors item. If any 'collector' wants one they can buy the box set surely?
Well, I suppose there will only be a limited number of box sets, so if you get lucky ;D and get one, you have a collectors item...
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I am sure I will get the box, because I like to have boxsets.
I have a couple box sets :
(http://www.what-it-is.nl/site/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/img_0695-768x1024.jpg)
I hope to add the Get Lucky box set to my collection soon. No matter what the price is.
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Well I just sprang for the preorder on Amazon. 175 US bucks. Geez. And to think, the only things I want are the cds and dvds. I'll willingly turn over any of the other stuff to some one who wants them. Jeezzz Louisssse.
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jeroen, what kind of a box is that on every street one??
also, you miss the Shine on Box by pink floyd, as well as the live in Gdansk box, and .........
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WOW! 2LP, CD/DVD, bonus CD
http://twitter.com/SalvadorDesign
Not sure why the ticket should become a collectors item. If any 'collector' wants one they can buy the box set surely?
Well, I suppose there will only be a limited number of box sets, so if you get lucky ;D and get one, you have a collectors item...
True but the only others who will want it will be those who tried and failed to buy one. I doubt it is going to send the price rocketing sky high though :-)
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jeroen, what kind of a box is that on every street one??
also, you miss the Shine on Box by pink floyd, as well as the live in Gdansk box, and .........
It is a piece off carton with a OES postage stamp and a PIN with the OES logo. I got it from my dad but I don't know where it came from. Maybe it was part of a box?
I do have the Pulse box with flashing led, does that count?
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It is a piece off carton with a OES postage stamp and a PIN with the OES logo. I got it from my dad but I don't know where it came from. Maybe it was part of a box?
Yes. Both for OES and OTN were released Promo boxes, which contained various items (not all together in the same box!): promo CDs, VHS, tape, Tourbook, stamps, pins, agenda, watch, etc. These boxes have been distribuited to Press and other media. Some examples (but there are boxes more complete):
(http://991.com/newGallery/Dire-Straits-On-Every-Street--6165.jpg) (http://991.com/newGallery/Dire-Straits-On-The-Night-Prom-413792.jpg)
I think this will be the first time that this kind of Box will be commercially available.
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I have started another topic where we can put photo's from every DS and or MK boxset. Promo or original.
So that we all can see what's available, and what we have got.
http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=622.0 (http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=622.0)
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I wonder what we will get with the Deluxe version in Germany. On Amazon you can order it for 232 Euros. That's more than twice as much as the price in UK. Probably there are more and/or other items in the box. But which one ? For that price ?
Perhaps additionaly a voucher to order tickets in presale for gigs in Germany, Swiss, Austria, ... . Similar to the proceeding at the last tour, where we had to buy a special KTGC version which contained such a voucher.
Jeroen, do you know more about that ... or somebody else ?
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Deluxe Box? Christmas before december. ;D
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I wonder what we will get with the Deluxe version in Germany. On Amazon you can order it for 232 Euros. That's more than twice as much as the price in UK. Probably there are more and/or other items in the box. But which one ? For that price ?
Perhaps additionaly a voucher to order tickets in presale for gigs in Germany, Swiss, Austria, ... . Similar to the proceeding at the last tour, where we had to buy a special KTGC version which contained such a voucher.
Jeroen, do you know more about that ... or somebody else ?
Well yes of course, with that super special overpriced deluxe version, and ONLY with that super special overpriced deluxe version, you will get a voucher for the MK fan ticket presale of course! But nobody knows, we'll only find out by accident... And since the price is so outrageous, only rich MK fans will be able to get front row tickets! Judging by the way they handled that presale last time, this wouldn't surprise me at all!
Only kidding of course (hopefully!!). Seriously, I think the price is a mistake. I am NOT going to buy a 232 EUR CD even if it contains a sweaty headband!
And I pray that if they decide to do that concert voucher thing again, they will organise things better. Otherwise I'll need a LOT of valium to calm my nerves!!
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.......Seriously, I think the price is a mistake. I am NOT going to buy a 232 EUR CD even if it contains a sweaty headband!
And I pray that if they decide to do that concert voucher thing again, they will organise things better. Otherwise I'll need a LOT of valium to calm my nerves!!
Be calm, and begin to move the furniture in the living room: for that figure surely Mark will play a private concert at your lounge ;D
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GH, 'sweaty headband'!!! Now you're talking :-*
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wonder what could be in this delux package... MK's fingers?
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.... Seriously, I think the price is a mistake ....
And I pray that if they decide to do that concert voucher thing again, they will organise things better....
let's hope.
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I found it! in this thread and in the Salvador thread there are conversations that should be in another thread that doesn
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I called amazon regarding the high price for the Get Lucky-Deluxe version (232 euro). They will check and change the price within the next 2 days, if it is a mistake. Otherwise ....
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wonder what could be in this delux package... MK's fingers?
:) very good! I like it. Nothing there for us men then!
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Well, it's extremely expensive in the US--$175.00. Something does not seem right at all. Perhaps Obama wrote the booklet. ;D It seems to me that they could make a LOT more money selling more at a lesser price. Curious--how many people do you think will indeed spring for this overpriced (and bloated) package?
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Well, I guess the management must think there is a market for this box set at the price quoted, unless it's a marketing ploy - advertise it at a really high price before release, then heavily discount it to say
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My main gripe is the fact that we have no information about what is on the bonus CD or the two vinyls and so we are ordering something blindly for a very high price. When I buy anything at all, including CDs, I like to know what I am getting.
Guy has already said on his forum that he knows what is on the bonus CD, so why are they so cagey about it? Perhaps that's the whole point about the title, we may just "get lucky" and find we have bought a treasure, who knows - time will tell! :)
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Totally agree. I think most people are presuming that the box set contains "Get Lucky" on vinyl. That the guitar tabs are for the songs from "Get Lucky" and that the bonus cd is live recordings from the last tour, but without official confirmation who knows?
I just hope those willing to fork out for the box set do not end up disappointed with their purchase.
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.....most people are presuming that the box set contains "Get Lucky" on vinyl. That the guitar tabs are for the songs from "Get Lucky".....
do you think different? we don't know what the CD bonus contains, but regarding the vinyls and the tab book I don't believe that any doubt exists
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Well, it's extremely expensive in the US--$175.00. Something does not seem right at all.
Amazon Germany ... EURO 225.00 = $318.00 ???
(even though identical ASIN)
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Well, whatever happens I'm not buying the box set. 10 years ago I would have been all over it, but I've got a kid now, more responsibilities etc and I just can't justify spending an extra 50 quid for this bonus CD when I could use it for him. Still curious to know what's on the CD though.
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.....most people are presuming that the box set contains "Get Lucky" on vinyl. That the guitar tabs are for the songs from "Get Lucky".....
do you think different? we don't know what the CD bonus contains, but regarding the vinyls and the tab book I don't believe that any doubt exists
rudiger - I am with most people, but belief is one thing, knowledge is another. As Superval asks, why are they being so cagey about it?
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I remember that every time, before a new release, they have been stingy about news. usually we know the news from other sources than the "official" ones. I think that this time, among the online music stores, there is a big confusion about the contents and the prices: I believe that the final price of the deluxe edition will be 70/90 euro. Said that, I hope to be denied and that the box will contain unpredicted stuff.
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Well, I guess the management must think there is a market for this box set at the price quoted, unless it's a marketing ploy - advertise it at a really high price before release, then heavily discount it to say
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Well, I guess the management must think there is a market for this box set at the price quoted, unless it's a marketing ploy - advertise it at a really high price before release, then heavily discount it to say
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Well, I guess the management must think there is a market for this box set at the price quoted, unless it's a marketing ploy - advertise it at a really high price before release, then heavily discount it to say