A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: the visitor on March 19, 2017, 08:13:03 PM
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Surely the inspiration for Two Young Lovers, Used to Could and a whole lot else, Chuck Berry passed away today.
Undoubtedly a massive influence on MK.
Rest in peace Mr Berry.
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Truly saddened by Chuck Berry's death. He was really the Rock and Roll Master!! Rest In Peace.
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Big loss
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A genius musician but apparently a real douchebag in life. At least that's what Clapton and Richards said so... RIP anyway.
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Probably. Clearly didn't stop them making a career out of the basis of his music
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A genius musician but apparently a real douchebag in life. At least that's what Clapton and Richards said so... RIP anyway.
I think you've made a couple of mistakes in the words "honest man". He was just open and straight with life. He said he writes songs for money and get paid only before stepping up on stage. And so what? All the top-level musicians actually make a living out of their music, but who can say it straight in you face? I guess, the same amount of people can create rock-n-roll almost single-handedly. So he was a hero, really.
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A genius musician but apparently a real douchebag in life. At least that's what Clapton and Richards said so... RIP anyway.
I think you've made a couple of mistakes in the words "honest man". He was just open and straight with life. He said he writes songs for money and get paid only before stepping up on stage. And so what? All the top-level musicians actually make a living out of their music, but who can say it straight in you face? I guess, the same amount of people can create rock-n-roll almost single-handedly. So he was a hero, really.
It might refer more to his history with women over the years
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A genius musician but apparently a real douchebag in life. At least that's what Clapton and Richards said so... RIP anyway.
I think you've made a couple of mistakes in the words "honest man". He was just open and straight with life. He said he writes songs for money and get paid only before stepping up on stage. And so what? All the top-level musicians actually make a living out of their music, but who can say it straight in you face? I guess, the same amount of people can create rock-n-roll almost single-handedly. So he was a hero, really.
You took it personally, didn't you? What I said was based on what Clapton and Richards stated. Apparently he treated everyone around him like shit. As for his reasoning for writing music I couldn't care less about it.
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A genius musician but apparently a real douchebag in life. At least that's what Clapton and Richards said so... RIP anyway.
I think you've made a couple of mistakes in the words "honest man". He was just open and straight with life. He said he writes songs for money and get paid only before stepping up on stage. And so what? All the top-level musicians actually make a living out of their music, but who can say it straight in you face? I guess, the same amount of people can create rock-n-roll almost single-handedly. So he was a hero, really.
You took it personally, didn't you? What I said was based on what Clapton and Richards stated. Apparently he treated everyone around him like shit. As for his reasoning for writing music I couldn't care less about it.
Exactly, you can even see an example of the douche-bag in the film "Hail Hail" when a sound engineer try to fix a problem on Chuck amp during a rehearsal. And Richards makes no secret that the project turned quite weird with Berry's behaviour.
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A genius musician but apparently a real douchebag in life. At least that's what Clapton and Richards said so... RIP anyway.
I think you've made a couple of mistakes in the words "honest man". He was just open and straight with life. He said he writes songs for money and get paid only before stepping up on stage. And so what? All the top-level musicians actually make a living out of their music, but who can say it straight in you face? I guess, the same amount of people can create rock-n-roll almost single-handedly. So he was a hero, really.
You took it personally, didn't you? What I said was based on what Clapton and Richards stated. Apparently he treated everyone around him like shit. As for his reasoning for writing music I couldn't care less about it.
I take EVERYTHING personally, don't you know :lol
No, it just feels to me weird to call somebody who you never knew a douchebag because such and such said this and that.
It's like reading the comments under every video of Buddy Rich, about him being a douchebag. Maybe he was, but it's music that matters.
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Surely there have been people throughout history whom you've never met personally but you still view them as douchebags (or evil)?
I think it's an interesting subject, and I don't think anyone is denying the impact of Chuck on rock history?
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A genius musician but apparently a real douchebag in life. At least that's what Clapton and Richards said so... RIP anyway.
I think you've made a couple of mistakes in the words "honest man". He was just open and straight with life. He said he writes songs for money and get paid only before stepping up on stage. And so what? All the top-level musicians actually make a living out of their music, but who can say it straight in you face? I guess, the same amount of people can create rock-n-roll almost single-handedly. So he was a hero, really.
You took it personally, didn't you? What I said was based on what Clapton and Richards stated. Apparently he treated everyone around him like shit. As for his reasoning for writing music I couldn't care less about it.
I take EVERYTHING personally, don't you know :lol
No, it just feels to me weird to call somebody who you never knew a douchebag because such and such said this and that.
It's like reading the comments under every video of Buddy Rich, about him being a douchebag. Maybe he was, but it's music that matters.
I partially agree with you. I mentioned Clapton and Richards because they're musicians who I really look up to, especially Eric, but the statements about Chuck's douchebagness are endless. As a musician hats off to him, but as a human being I despise him. I don't know, I can separate things but in this specific case for me the fact that he was such an asshole suppresses his music. Again, it's me, just my opinion.
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Talking about Eric, I'm not sure he has a clean track record:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018281902
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Eric Clapton? A racist? A guy who worships black bluesmen, whose band has always had at least two black musicians and has dated Naomi Campbell? That's laughable, sorry.
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That speech of him does hardly give any room for doubts that he is NOT racist, don't you think so?
But it's an old story and I think we already had a thread about it years ago.
LE
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Eric Clapton "racism" is maybe a little more complex than his infamous statement? :think
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I suppose the point is not all musicians are perfect human beings
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That speech of him does hardly give any room for doubts that he is NOT racist, don't you think so?
But it's an old story and I think we already had a thread about it years ago.
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Did he really say those things? I'd never read that. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to be around muslims these days, I'm sorry to say that in case it hurts one's feelings, but how can Eric Clapton have issues with black people? If that statement came out of his mouth that's the most incoherent thing any human being has ever said in modern history.
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... I don't blame anyone for not wanting to be around muslims these days, I'm sorry to say that in case it hurts one's feelings...
Just seeing Ed's above post now, and I hope I am not taking this out of context, but the comment really surprises me, and i believe should not go by unchallenged.
I don't have a problem being around Muslims now, or ever.
By following the logic that all Muslims share the guilt of the extremists among them, one may not want to be around any Christians either.
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... I don't blame anyone for not wanting to be around muslims these days, I'm sorry to say that in case it hurts one's feelings...
Just seeing Ed's above post now, and I hope I am not taking this out of context, but the comment really surprises me, and i believe should not go by unchallenged.
I don't have a problem being around Muslims now, or ever.
By following the logic that all Muslims share the guilt of the extremists among them, one may not want to be around any Christians either.
Please can we keep religion and politics away from AMIT, which is a music forum first and foremost. These things can easily escalate, especially in the present climate.
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... I don't blame anyone for not wanting to be around muslims these days, I'm sorry to say that in case it hurts one's feelings...
Just seeing Ed's above post now, and I hope I am not taking this out of context, but the comment really surprises me, and i believe should not go by unchallenged.
I don't have a problem being around Muslims now, or ever.
By following the logic that all Muslims share the guilt of the extremists among them, one may not want to be around any Christians either.
Please can we keep religion and politics away from AMIT, which is a music forum first and foremost. These things can easily escalate, especially in the present climate.
Agree!
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I also read that Clapton was trying actually to be sarcastic and ironic with that speech, but as he was quite drunk, it went wrong...
I don't think so. Eric came back at least once on the subject in an interview, explaining his view.
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... I don't blame anyone for not wanting to be around muslims these days, I'm sorry to say that in case it hurts one's feelings...
Just seeing Ed's above post now, and I hope I am not taking this out of context, but the comment really surprises me, and i believe should not go by unchallenged.
I don't have a problem being around Muslims now, or ever.
By following the logic that all Muslims share the guilt of the extremists among them, one may not want to be around any Christians either.
I meant that given all the exposure it's natural that some people are scared of muslims, don't you think? I don't blame them as well as I don't blame anyone for being scared of anything. I'm scared of heights and open sea. A fear is not necessarily reasonable. I'm sorry if anyone got offended but I think one would be digging too deep if it felt offensive.
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Can we please stop talking politics and religion here on AMIT? The past learns that it practically always gets out of hand and topics or users have to be removed. I don't come here to read politics and please don't tell me 'Then you don't read it' since this is a Chuck Berry topic.
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Can we please stop talking politics and religion here on AMIT? The past learns that it practically always gets out of hand and topics or users have to be removed. I don't come here to read politics and please don't tell me 'Then you don't read it' since this is a Chuck Berry topic.
I was just explaining myself, don't wanna be branded racist. And to be honest I don't really see why my comment was turned into a political view anyway. I guess I'll have to measure and filter my words from now on - if there will be any.
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I removed all my messages off topic, sorry :-[
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I apologize for going off-topic, I fully agree that this site should be politic-free and I am sorry for going down that road. These are very troubling times, and I have become rather sensitive.
Ed, I also sincerely apologize for misunderstanding your meaning and for replying in a way that was unfair to you.
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I apologize for going off-topic, I fully agree that this site should be politic-free and I am sorry for going down that road. These are very troubling times, and I have become rather sensitive.
Ed, I also sincerely apologize for misunderstanding your meaning and for replying in a way that was unfair to you.
That's ok, dear. It's a very sensitive subject and easy to misunderstand. Your DM was very kind as well, thanks for that.