Post by: Pottel on October 28, 2019, 08:53:44 AM
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Post by: wakeywakey on October 28, 2019, 09:25:42 AM
Did not know BIA was one of the sounds pink Floyd was aiming for when they were making momentary lapse of reason!
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Many amateurs have gone for the BIA sound so why shouldn't they :P
Post by: Pottel on October 28, 2019, 09:33:47 AM
Dude, talking about the Floyd here....Did not know BIA was one of the sounds pink Floyd was aiming for when they were making momentary lapse of reason!
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/pink-floyd-momentary-lapse-of-reason-over-egged/
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Many amateurs have gone for the BIA sound so why shouldn't they
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Post by: Jules on October 28, 2019, 09:49:15 AM
Did not know BIA was one of the sounds pink Floyd was aiming for when they were making momentary lapse of reason!
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/pink-floyd-momentary-lapse-of-reason-over-egged/
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I guess it has something to do with 100% digital recording. I think BIA was the first one to be recorded like that, and as "momentary" was recorded in Gilmour's boat, probably digital recording was easy than analog for them.
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on October 28, 2019, 10:14:43 AM
Post by: Jules on October 28, 2019, 10:32:22 AM
Many years ago I read somewhere what Waters thought about the PF Gilmour-area: he said something like, it almost sounds like Dire Straits (in a bad way, he was very negative). I'll try to find it, I think it was somewhere in the early 90's.
It's usually negative, even Guy and other DS members talk not good about that era. It was the start of the digital recordings and they were experimenting, it sounded great for that time, as it was cool, but years later they realised that it didn't sound that good, and they went back to analogue recordings, mixed with digital.
Post by: dmg on October 28, 2019, 11:28:28 AM
Many years ago I read somewhere what Waters thought about the PF Gilmour-area: he said something like, it almost sounds like Dire Straits (in a bad way, he was very negative). I'll try to find it, I think it was somewhere in the early 90's.
It's usually negative, even Guy and other DS members talk not good about that era. It was the start of the digital recordings and they were experimenting, it sounded great for that time, as it was cool, but years later they realised that it didn't sound that good, and they went back to analogue recordings, mixed with digital.
It annoys me when this early digital recording era is criticised. That is not only evocative of the era but also extremely innovative too, and something DS with Neil Dorfsman were at the cutting edge in. They should be proud of it. I secretly think Guy is but pretends he isn't to promote the sonic quality of the most recent or upcoming album.
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 28, 2019, 12:51:29 PM
Post by: Jules on October 28, 2019, 01:09:04 PM
Many years ago I read somewhere what Waters thought about the PF Gilmour-area: he said something like, it almost sounds like Dire Straits (in a bad way, he was very negative). I'll try to find it, I think it was somewhere in the early 90's.
It's usually negative, even Guy and other DS members talk not good about that era. It was the start of the digital recordings and they were experimenting, it sounded great for that time, as it was cool, but years later they realised that it didn't sound that good, and they went back to analogue recordings, mixed with digital.
It annoys me when this early digital recording era is criticised. That is not only evocative of the era but also extremely innovative too, and something DS with Neil Dorfsman were at the cutting edge in. They should be proud of it. I secretly think Guy is but pretends he isn't to promote the sonic quality of the most recent or upcoming album.
I don't like most of the music did in that era. It sounds artificial, there is something about that sound that is like empty to me. Same happens with that horrible dry drums sound so typical from the 80's. It's something that apparently Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins are guilty for. Experimenting for a Gabriel record, while Phil was playing drums, Gabriel did some weird mic positioning and started to push buttons, and they find "a sound", what would be called "gated reverb", and that awful sound is on almost everything recorded at the 80's... Even the DS BIA has some of that drums sound, like in "So far away" or "money for nothing", the drums sounds very unnatural, too dry, like they were not real drums...
Yes, it was innovative, but that doesn't means it was good. Come one, just look at the fashion hair cuts of that era!
Post by: Pottel on October 28, 2019, 01:31:17 PM
Other connections, Chris White was due to go on tour with PF but got injured in a car accident or something, was in DSIS.Never knew that! Thnx!
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Post by: JF on October 28, 2019, 02:08:18 PM
Many years ago I read somewhere what Waters thought about the PF Gilmour-area: he said something like, it almost sounds like Dire Straits (in a bad way, he was very negative). I'll try to find it, I think it was somewhere in the early 90's.
I remember a french review of the division bell album
the journalist said something like that (not excatly same words but you guess the idea):
on this album Pink Floyd try to sound like Queen ersatz (a great day for freedom), neo-U2 (take it back) , pseudo-Dire Straits (coming back to life) or imitating Spingsteen (lost for words)
Post by: Pottel on October 28, 2019, 05:51:36 PM
Fuc k record reviewers lolMany years ago I read somewhere what Waters thought about the PF Gilmour-area: he said something like, it almost sounds like Dire Straits (in a bad way, he was very negative). I'll try to find it, I think it was somewhere in the early 90's.
I remember a french review of the division bell album
the journalist said something like that (not excatly same words but you guess the idea):
on this album Pink Floyd try to sound like Queen ersatz (a great day for freedom), neo-U2 (take it back) , pseudo-Dire Straits (coming back to life) or imitating Spingsteen (lost for words)
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Post by: herlock on October 28, 2019, 08:38:19 PM
Many years ago I read somewhere what Waters thought about the PF Gilmour-area: he said something like, it almost sounds like Dire Straits (in a bad way, he was very negative). I'll try to find it, I think it was somewhere in the early 90's.Did he mean the digital sound, or the music style ? I would find it surprising that Waters, as a frantic political activist, would not like Telegraph Road, Brothers in Arms, Iron Hand...
Post by: Pottel on October 28, 2019, 08:59:20 PM
Good questionMany years ago I read somewhere what Waters thought about the PF Gilmour-area: he said something like, it almost sounds like Dire Straits (in a bad way, he was very negative). I'll try to find it, I think it was somewhere in the early 90's.Did he mean the digital sound, or the music style ? I would find it surprising that Waters, as a frantic political activist, would not like Telegraph Road, Brothers in Arms, Iron Hand...
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Post by: peterromer on November 03, 2019, 12:53:52 PM
Post by: 2manyguitars on November 03, 2019, 07:57:42 PM
Many years ago I read somewhere what Waters thought about the PF Gilmour-area: he said something like, it almost sounds like Dire Straits (in a bad way, he was very negative). I'll try to find it, I think it was somewhere in the early 90's.
It's usually negative, even Guy and other DS members talk not good about that era. It was the start of the digital recordings and they were experimenting, it sounded great for that time, as it was cool, but years later they realised that it didn't sound that good, and they went back to analogue recordings, mixed with digital.
It annoys me when this early digital recording era is criticised. That is not only evocative of the era but also extremely innovative too, and something DS with Neil Dorfsman were at the cutting edge in. They should be proud of it. I secretly think Guy is but pretends he isn't to promote the sonic quality of the most recent or upcoming album.
Totally agree. BIA is another example of a knopfler creation that in terms of sound is a whole little universe. We can argue about some of the songs, or arrangements, but the sound itself, like a soft fuzzy blanket still completely envelopes me.
Like you I think it's the best example of digital era recording and still stands up to scrutiny today....
Post by: Pottel on November 06, 2019, 06:42:20 PM
Listened to it again today. Still love itMany years ago I read somewhere what Waters thought about the PF Gilmour-area: he said something like, it almost sounds like Dire Straits (in a bad way, he was very negative). I'll try to find it, I think it was somewhere in the early 90's.
It's usually negative, even Guy and other DS members talk not good about that era. It was the start of the digital recordings and they were experimenting, it sounded great for that time, as it was cool, but years later they realised that it didn't sound that good, and they went back to analogue recordings, mixed with digital.
It annoys me when this early digital recording era is criticised. That is not only evocative of the era but also extremely innovative too, and something DS with Neil Dorfsman were at the cutting edge in. They should be proud of it. I secretly think Guy is but pretends he isn't to promote the sonic quality of the most recent or upcoming album.
Totally agree. BIA is another example of a knopfler creation that in terms of sound is a whole little universe. We can argue about some of the songs, or arrangements, but the sound itself, like a soft fuzzy blanket still completely envelopes me.
Like you I think it's the best example of digital era recording and still stands up to scrutiny today....
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Post by: Jules on April 10, 2020, 03:06:45 PM
Post by: Pottel on April 10, 2020, 03:26:16 PM
There is a new connection, John Mccusker...Awesome!
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