A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: junkiedoll on February 11, 2020, 01:09:07 PM
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https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/david-knopfler-from-dire-straits-to-playing-his-own-tune/?fbclid=IwAR2tQA84jYhVCISQi7OnXU9ZaorOhn27IklFDV18ylb9KGQogiO-R-A00rM
Some interesting statements (in particular the one that he would like to play with MK again)
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Very nice interview. I think David and Mark would go along very well these days.
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David has been telling for years that he would love to play with his brother again, he sounds honest, but I believe he says that also because he knows that's not gonna happen...
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You’re right, he’s saying it because it won’t happen. And I don’t know what’s the problem here, to be honest...
Some brothers can’t live without each other, some brothers hate each other, these two obviously live knowing about each other’s existence, have a decent amount of respect and even talk occasionally judging by their words. Why they must play together I have no idea. Just because you once were a rhythm guitarist in your brother’s band? I don’t think so.
Tommy Emmanuel recently lost his big brother and all of a sudden got 20 years older. This is an example of brothers struggling to live without each other. But MK and DK certainly are OK with what they have. And both are artistically successful, with MK enjoying 1000 times more fame and success, but that’s life. There’s always someone living better than you. And worse.
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One of the best interviews with him, I really enjoyed it. Musically speaking, it would be great if the brothers played together again, not because he once were a rhythm guitarist in your brother's band, but, exactly for what they did together in the past, both in what is recorded in the first two albums, that unique sound, as well as what they did together before Dire Straits, they have the same musical roots, they lived this experience together when they were discovering music, for the music they did in the past and in the present, that is, enough reasons!
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Still I think they are both cool on their own terms. David had courage to leave and to continue, Mark had courage to “fire” his Bro and as David says in the interview wanted to continue no matter what (and who).
If you’d give an honest look, throughout DS history there was no such thing as a “second guitar player”. All major rhythm parts were either composed or straight up recorded by you know who... Mark had a rhythm guitar player simply because you can’t play two guitars at once. If he could, DS would be a power trio :lol
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The reason for their awkward (at least known to public) relationships is the same reason because they're successful — because somewhere deep they're still little kids and want to fight no matter what. It's actually very good! I know it because my older brother was always ahead of me in everything and I wanted to beat him up!
Don't tell me that Mark, who has recorded numerous guitar parts for artists whom he sometimes never met and made the guest recordings I never listened to again, the guy who recorded 20 takes while doing a little solo over Thomas Dolby's song, don't want to record something for his bro? Maybe his bro never asked, don't you think? Anyway, it's a rivalry and I love that.
With that said, no way they could play DS music together again, however, since both are "looking forward only" type of guys, they can at least create something new together, and for this there's a chance, but extremely small. And honestly I think because MK is not a fan of his brother's material. Can you come up with any other reason?
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The reason for their awkward (at least known to public) relationships is the same reason because they're successful — because somewhere deep they're still little kids and want to fight no matter what. It's actually very good! I know it because my older brother was always ahead of me in everything and I wanted to beat him up!
Don't tell me that Mark, who has recorded numerous guitar parts for artists whom he sometimes never met and made the guest recordings I never listened to again, the guy who recorded 20 takes while doing a little solo over Thomas Dolby's song, don't want to record something for his bro? Maybe his bro never asked, don't you think? Anyway, it's a rivalry and I love that.
With that said, no way they could play DS music together again, however, since both are "looking forward only" type of guys, they can at least create something new together, and for this there's a chance, but extremely small. And honestly I think because MK is not a fan of his brother's material. Can you come up with any other reason?
The reason is that they don't communicate with each other. And, judging by Mark's very cold response in the BBC 2018 interview, they don't even get along.
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The reason is that they don't communicate with each other. And, judging by Mark's very cold response in the BBC 2018 interview, they don't even get along.
Well, you can’t choose your brother, what I can say. You can choose your friends and a wife, tho ;D
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One of the best interviews with him, I really enjoyed it. Musically speaking, it would be great if the brothers played together again, not because he once were a rhythm guitarist in your brother's band, but, exactly for what they did together in the past, both in what is recorded in the first two albums, that unique sound, as well as what they did together before Dire Straits, they have the same musical roots, they lived this experience together when they were discovering music, for the music they did in the past and in the present, that is, enough reasons!
a really nice post.. :clap :clap
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By the way, so funny what David said about ruining Mark's s3x life ;D Maybe that's why Mark fired him because he could never forgive David for doing that he-he
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There had been always the typical brothers rivalry, MK wanted to achieve the higher as possible and David just wanted to have a band and play songs, not only playing but also writing songs and that, with MK and command, wasn't going to happen.
When David left DS, MK and John both played with David on his first record, even MK did a playback playing as rhythmic guitar for David for Italian tv.
Nowadays, when they are asked about what happened on DS years they say the same in different ways, that they wanted to pursue their dreams, but their dreams were different, and by what they say nowadays, it looks like both achieved what they wanted, in different levels of success, but both are happy with what they achieved.
If that happens, I can see easily both brothers playing folk songs, they have similar roots and his music had gone by very similar paths, but with very different levels of quality and creativity, obviously, but nowadays they have lots of points in common musically.
I also like when I read this David's interview, when he talks so honestly about fighting his own demons and facing all his problems, and the way he says about being happy with what he has, that there are always people who are in a better position that him, but also many that are in worse situation, so he's happy with what he has. It's the same position about how I face life, being happy with what you have and enjoy your life.
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And both brothers live on the south coast of England...
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And both brothers live on the south coast of England...
Well... one of them lives at the south coast of England, the other has a second house there ;) ;D
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And both brothers live on the south coast of England...
and approx 100 miles apart.....
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If you’d give an honest look, throughout DS history there was no such thing as a “second guitar player”. All major rhythm parts were either composed or straight up recorded by you know who... Mark had a rhythm guitar player simply because you can’t play two guitars at once. If he could, DS would be a power trio :lol
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If you look closely, you'll notice that even though Mark played most of the second guitar, still, there is David's guitar, the first two albums have his soul too, his guitar and voice are there to make that distinctive chemistry happens, there are ideas of him there, the Lions melody was David's suggestion, the magic happens especially live, when you see the mixture of the two guitars, MK and DK, that unique, indivisible texture. SOS was never the same without David being in a quartet format, compare the groove of the versions of OES tour 81/92, STP tour 2001, SGL tour 2005, KTGC tour 2008 ... In my opinion, David was the best rhythm guitarist who accompanied Mark Knopfler, I'm not talking about multi-instrumentalists like Richard, who even makes arrangements, I'm talking about the role of the rhythm guitarist, in that sense he is what Bruce Welch is for the Shadows, who knows, knows what I mean. The change in sound with the departure of David is drastic, both in the studio, especially live, the same occurred with the departure of Pick.
Anyway, whatever came, be it to rescue some songs from the first two albums of DS, or a new job between a possible partnership between the Knopfler brothers, for me it would be welcome and I believe that for many others too, they have the same musical roots , in that sense they speak the same musical language! :wave
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Well, it's just not going to happen, however much DK or anyone else wants it to happen.
MK has made this quite clear.
What strikes me as odd is that they were on speaking terms after David's departure from DS, Mark even played on David's album. But something must have happened later on, maybe in the 90s, which made him cut ties with David for good, including all his family ("cousins who have never met") and ended in such bitterness that David even tried to auction off the Höfner.
I mean you can leave a band, a family company or whatever and still speak to each other, but this is a different dimension. It could be a very personal thing that may have nothing to do with DS at all. But we'll never know, of course.
Besides, I'm not sure how good the article is... it says David moved in with Mark (and ruined his sex life), but wasn't it John's flat to begin with, David moved in and then one fine day John found Mark there kipping on the floor?
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What strikes me as odd is that they were on speaking terms after David's departure from DS, Mark even played on David's album. But something must have happened later on, maybe in the 90s, which made him cut ties with David for good, including all his family ("cousins who have never met") and ended in such bitterness that David even tried to auction off the Höfner.
I mean you can leave a band, a family company or whatever and still speak to each other, but this is a different dimension. It could be a very personal thing that may have nothing to do with DS at all. But we'll never know, of course.
David wrote a book in 1996, maybe it was critical of MK?
"Who went and wrote the oldest story in the book? Everybody pays..."
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What strikes me as odd is that they were on speaking terms after David's departure from DS, Mark even played on David's album. But something must have happened later on, maybe in the 90s, which made him cut ties with David for good, including all his family ("cousins who have never met") and ended in such bitterness that David even tried to auction off the Höfner.
I mean you can leave a band, a family company or whatever and still speak to each other, but this is a different dimension. It could be a very personal thing that may have nothing to do with DS at all. But we'll never know, of course.
David wrote a book in 1996, maybe it was critical of MK?
"Who went and wrote the oldest story in the book? Everybody pays..."
that bluff book?
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“Mark had a way of making other players feel special, he’s such a wonderful performer…anybody who plays with him feels that they’re a bit better than they really are.”
Not exactly Chris Whitten's experience, was it?
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“Mark had a way of making other players feel special, he’s such a wonderful performer…anybody who plays with him feels that they’re a bit better than they really are.”
Not exactly Chris Whitten's experience, was it?
who said that?