A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Robson on July 28, 2021, 04:06:01 PM
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News:
https://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/solobox/
Plus – an exclusive bonus disc of studio b-sides from this period, entitled Gravy Train: The B-Sides 1996-2007
the greatest joy :)
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To commemorate the 25th anniversary of Mark’s solo career
we never released a live official album nor a live bluray concert
and we never will
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As expected, nothing new :-\
Gravy Train: The B-Sides 1996-2007 – CD6:
Small Potatoes
What Have I Got To Do
Gravy Train
My Claim To Fame
Summer Of Love
Camerado
Tall Order Baby
Let’s See You
The Long Highway
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So these "never released before" vinyl records will be made out of a digital master, right?
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Trying hard not to complain. It's actually nice that they do something. But out of coincidence they draw the line just before the pricey box sets with the super special b-sides were released...🤔
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So dissapointed... even when they add a bonus, they put something that already exists, instead of include something new... not even ONE new song...
Milking the cow.
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So dissapointed... even when they add a bonus, they put something that already exists, instead of include something new... not even ONE new song...
Milking the cow.
In the email newsletter there were also pictures of t-shirts with the title of the collection. (When clicked it led to a 404 page in the Shop.)
Who on earth would like to have a t-shirt that looks like MK's career ended in 2007?
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Well, I'm happy to have these albums on vinyl.
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Well, I'm happy to have these albums on vinyl.
But Golden Heart and ST first time ever on vinyl.
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So dissapointed... even when they add a bonus, they put something that already exists, instead of include something new... not even ONE new song...
Milking the cow.
That's true. But I have all the boxes and I will buy this one too :D
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Well, I'm happy to have these albums on vinyl.
I'd like to have them individually, not having to extract them from a box. For a collector, what is in a box belong to the box!
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I think this is ridiculous anyway. CDs in 2021? Come on... These vinyl records are most certainly transfers from digital, "remasters" made absolutely nothing to the recordings, it sounds 100% identical. So what's the point? The last time I played CD was somewhere in 2010 or so. The design is questionable, to say the least, bonuses are minuscule. Just give people a full discography in awesome packaging in 24 bits! Like The Beatles did a million years ago with their collection in the form of an apple. Jeez...
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Well, I'm happy to have these albums on vinyl.
Yep me too.
Those new t-shirts are awful though.
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We're not all into vinyl. Alas, it's no longer a let down.
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Well, I'm happy to have these albums on vinyl.
Yep me too.
Those new t-shirts are awful though.
£30 for a T-shirt. Not a chance would I pay that.
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Nothing really new. Moving on...
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News:
https://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/solobox/
Plus – an exclusive bonus disc of studio b-sides from this period, entitled Gravy Train: The B-Sides 1996-2007
the greatest joy :)
Great news. As it's announced all albums were remastered for LP and CD by by Miles Showell (Abbey Road Studios), the same guy has been responsible for Local Hero LP remastering and he was trying to find and finally found the original master tape which never used for all previous releases including original CD and vinyl.
GH is pure analogue recording (multitracks and mixdown). STP was recorded in digital and analogue. But both were mastered too bad, using HDCD. STP on DVD-Audio also sounds bad. I hope that these brilliant albums will sound better.
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So these "never released before" vinyl records will be made out of a digital master, right?
Read the Miles Showell interview. I assume he prefers to work with original masters. If there were analogue masters, he would use it.
https://superdeluxeedition.com/interview/dire-straits-and-mark-knopfler-half-speed-mastering-details-revealed/
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Thank you ustas and greetings! Nice to see you.
LE
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Well, I'm happy to have these albums on vinyl.
But Golden Heart and ST first time ever on vinyl.
I mean I will be grateful to have them. I’m happy they finally got a release.
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Thank you ustas and greetings! Nice to see you.
LE
:wave
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I think this is ridiculous anyway. CDs in 2021? Come on... These vinyl records are most certainly transfers from digital, "remasters" made absolutely nothing to the recordings, it sounds 100% identical. So what's the point? The last time I played CD was somewhere in 2010 or so. The design is questionable, to say the least, bonuses are minuscule. Just give people a full discography in awesome packaging in 24 bits! Like The Beatles did a million years ago with their collection in the form of an apple. Jeez...
I buy cds and records and play them every day.
Great to have a choice.
Don’t want them? Don’t buy them.
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News:
https://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/solobox/
Plus – an exclusive bonus disc of studio b-sides from this period, entitled Gravy Train: The B-Sides 1996-2007
the greatest joy :)
Great news. As it's announced all albums were remastered for LP and CD by by Miles Showell (Abbey Road Studios), the same guy has been resposible for Local Hero LP remastering and he was trying to find and finally found the original master tape which never used for all previous releases including original CD and vinyl.
GH is pure analogue recording (multitracks and mixdown). STP was recorded in digital and analogue. But both were mastered too bad, using HDCD. STP on DVD-Audio also sounds bad. I hope that these brilliant albums will sound better.
Hi Ustas
Thanks for the info.
Hopefully these remasters will have better dynamic range, like the original DS albums.
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News:
https://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/solobox/
Plus – an exclusive bonus disc of studio b-sides from this period, entitled Gravy Train: The B-Sides 1996-2007
the greatest joy :)
Great news. As it's announced all albums were remastered for LP and CD by by Miles Showell (Abbey Road Studios), the same guy has been resposible for Local Hero LP remastering and he was trying to find and finally found the original master tape which never used for all previous releases including original CD and vinyl.
GH is pure analogue recording (multitracks and mixdown). STP was recorded in digital and analogue. But both were mastered too bad, using HDCD. STP on DVD-Audio also sounds bad. I hope that these brilliant albums will sound better.
So great to see you Ustas! It's been an eternity!
I wonder if this release will hurt the price of rare limited LPs like "The Ragpicker's Dream". I think many people will buy this box just to resell individual LPs and especially rare ones, GH, STP, RPD, SL... It will happen for sure. The Ragpicker vinyl, which I happen to own, commands ridiculous prices. Not like "All The Roadrunning" LP though, this bad boy costs like a decent guitar!
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I wonder if this release will hurt the price of rare limited LPs like "The Ragpicker's Dream". I think many people will buy this box just to resell individual LPs and especially rare ones, GH, STP, RPD, SL... It will happen for sure. The Ragpicker vinyl, which I happen to own, commands ridiculous prices. Not like "All The Roadrunning" LP though, this bad boy costs like a decent guitar!
All The Roadrunning LP was mastered by legendary Stan Ricker and this vinyl sounds more better than CD. I never had Ragpicker's Dream on vinyl, but CD sounds very good.
Also I do not like the mastering of 2 songs from Shangri-La (CD and DVD-Audio/SACD): 5:15 and Boom Like That. Dynamic range was compressed. So there is a chance to listen it with better quality
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Seems a nice idea for die hard collectors but who else is going to buy this? In my case, I have all the CDs already and I don't have a turntable. Remastered CDs? Back in the days, I bought all the Dire Straits remastered CDs and my ears found zero difference (not saying there was no but I couldn't notice honestly).
Bonus tracks? Fans have them already and they're all available on YouTube at least.
I would have considered buying the box if they'd provided something new, and the choice is vast: UNreleased tracks, alternate versions of some songs, a proper live CD or DVD from 2001 or 2002 (the famous London shows) or 2005 (a full NYC recording for instance as parts of it already exist) or 2008 or even 2013-2015, not the best years to me but I guess it's a matter of taste ; even a film or pictures of the recording sessions would be nice, a complete book of Guy's dairies : this would be quite something!
They have everything in their hands, so why not??
In the end, the box looks good and the vinyls are a good idea but I think that it's again another missed opportunity from Mark's management to offer something really NEW to the fans and, by extension, to the "general public" too and ultimately to sell well. I always wonder who makes the final decisions, if Mark or Guy are involved in any way or not.
I still cherish the day when they decided to record and release the "Real Live Roadrunning" DVD but it was 15 years ago…
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Seems a nice idea for die hard collectors but who else is going to buy this? In my case, I have already all the CDs and I don't have a turntable. Remastered CDs? Back in the days, I bought all the Dire Straits remastered CDs and my ears found zero difference.
Unreleased tracks? Fans have them already and they're all available on YouTube, at least.
I would have considered buying the box if they provided something new, and the choice is vast: UNreleased tracks, alternate versions of some songs, a proper live CD or DVD from 2001 or 2002 (the famous London shows) or 2005 (a full NYC recording for instance as parts of it already exist) or 2008 or even 2013-2015, not the best years to me but I guess it's a matter of taste ; even a film or pictures of the recording sessions would be nice, a complete book of Guy's dairies :this would be quite something!
They have everything in their hands, so why not???
In the end, the box looks good and the vinyls are a good idea but I think that it's again another missed opportunity from Mark's management to offer something really NEW to the fans and, by extension, to the "general public" too and ultimately to sell well. I always wonder who makes the final decisions, if Mark or Guy are involved in any way or not.
I still cherish the day when they decided to record and released the "Real Live Roadrunning" DVD but it's 14 years ago…
To be completely honest... It will sell anyway. The truth is, Mark has quite a lot of wealthy fans who don't care about anything and will buy anything, so why bother. I personally know a bunch of guys who will buy it just because it's out and it's from Mark Knopfler. If it will sell anyway, there's no need to jump over your head. Combine it with Mark's "doesn'tcareness" towards fans and we should say "thanks" for we fact that we have at least that.
I'm not too excited about this release as all other boxes, but to give them some credit, Golden Heart LP and Sailing To Philadelphia LP is an AWESOME idea and something that was missing for, well, 25 years already. A great addition to the collection, at last! I always felt strange that you have vinyl for all the new MK albums, but never had it for the most "classic" ones.
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I agree that making a box to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the Golden Heart album is a strange idea. I would rather buy separate vinyl records, but there's no such option, but since all the vinyl albums up to 2007 a really rare or non-existent, you start to appreciate the idea. Also, if the album would be sold separately, it would have a distinctive LP decal design, but from the pictures, I can see we'll have just blue stickers on all the LPs. Not too personalized if you ask me, but that would make it such that old LPs would be as desirable because of the unique design, I think. So overall, it's a win-win, but speaking of unreleased material... Mark is just not that kind of a guy who releases unreleased material, we're kind of already used to that factor.
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I wonder if the UK release of the box has the STP version that came out with both Do America and One More Matinee in vinyl, or is just the same stp lp to all countries...
Same with the US box, as STP in the US had Do America but not One more matinee
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I wonder if the UK release of the box has the STP version that came out with both Do America and One More Matinee in vinyl, or is just the same stp lp to all countries...
Same with the US box, as STP in the US had Do America but not One more matinee
I got the tracklisting info from universal France, and STP includes Do America both on vinyl and CD :
https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/un-coffret-des-5-premiers-albums-studio-de-mark-knopfler-le-11-octobre/
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I wonder if the UK release of the box has the STP version that came out with both Do America and One More Matinee in vinyl, or is just the same stp lp to all countries...
Same with the US box, as STP in the US had Do America but not One more matinee
I got the tracklisting info from universal France, and STP includes Do America both on vinyl and CD :
https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/un-coffret-des-5-premiers-albums-studio-de-mark-knopfler-le-11-octobre/
If this is for all releases, they opted for the previous UK version worlwide, well done in my opinion!
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I wonder if the UK release of the box has the STP version that came out with both Do America and One More Matinee in vinyl, or is just the same stp lp to all countries...
Same with the US box, as STP in the US had Do America but not One more matinee
I got the tracklisting info from universal France, and STP includes Do America both on vinyl and CD :
https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/un-coffret-des-5-premiers-albums-studio-de-mark-knopfler-le-11-octobre/
Thanks for the link. Good to have Do America, if not for the song itself, at least for a complete album.
To be fair, I'm quite happy with all that MK and staff provided for the last 25 years -- and not to mention the DS years : albums, boxes, USB sticks of most recent tours etc.. But there are so many jewels in the pipeline, we all know it, that it's a pity that some of them don't see the light of the day on some occasions like the anniversary of the Golden Heart record.
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That artwork though.
LE
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That artwork though.
LE
Or the absence of that :lol Yes, I'm surprised, too. Reminds me of the 2005 "Best Of" compilation, but that one had a Strat. That one has nothing, but I guess that's still better than MK's face like some other compilations... Overall, to find a great cover artwork nowadays is hard, and to find an album with great artwork AND great music is almost impossible.
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That artwork though.
LE
Not transcendant but still rather good to me. Very STP-ish in style.
I've just watched the trailer. Surprisingly they didn't choose Done with Bonaparte as snippet for Golden Heart ;D and no extract from Kill to get crimson >:(
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That artwork though.
LE
Overall, to find a great cover artwork nowadays is hard, and to find an album with great artwork AND great music is almost impossible.
But you can find millions of albums with poor artwork and sh***y music ;D
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Not really sure of the market for this. Those who have a nostalgia for vinyl who also happen to like Mark's solo career... That's all.
This narrow market becomes even narrower when you consider those may not want to buy it when they already own the music in another format and/or resent the fact Knopfler fans are constantly denied anything unreleased or exciting.
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Not really sure of the market for this. Those who have a nostalgia for vinyl who also happen to like Mark's solo career... That's all.
This narrow market becomes even narrower when you consider those may not want to buy it when they already own the music in another format and/or resent the fact Knopfler fans are constantly denied anything unreleased or exciting.
Probably they base on sales of the DS studio boxes...
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Have these sold well?
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Have these sold well?
They re-issued the DS studio vinyl box, so I guess they did sold well... And they are releasing this now, so I guess yes, they sold well.
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I guess this is not the box set we were all hoping for, but the vinyl is good if your wanting them. The b-sides release is also good for me, not everyone would have bought the singles with these songs, so to have them as a mini album is great. I will buy the set as I like to have all the releases. I always buy the album's on CD, I don't care what the year is! I have a fantastic set up with great speakers, still the best way to listen for me.
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I always buy the album's on CD, I don't care what the year is! I have a fantastic set up with great speakers, still the best way to listen for me.
Me too! I do have one MK vinyl - Get Lucky, but it's such a nuisance having to turn it over after every few songs - no time to relax and enjoy! ;)
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Nice to finally be able to listen to GH and STP on vinyl! Of course not so nice that I have to buy an entire box set filled with a majority of other titles I already own on vinyl. On the other hand it's great they added a compilation of b-sides. I fully agree with most of you it could be done so much better if they included real unreleased tracks or alternate versions, but let's not complain as the DS box set didn't include nothing like that at all.
Do we know for sure the CD's are also remastered versions? I wouldn't be surprised if they just used the current masters for the CD's.
Another thing: do any you also experience problems with ordering/paying this box in the MK webshop? When I arrive at point of verifying the payment with my credit card the transaction is declined. I contacted my credit card service (ABN AMRO bank / Mastercard) and they told me there is nothing wrong with my card but the MK webshop is dodgy / not to be trusted because they seem not have inplemented double verification or such a kind of security protocol that is internationally mandatory since the start of this year.
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It's a pity there are no songs from i-Tunes
Early Bird
Time in The Sun
Your Perfect Song
Hot Dog
I know it's after 2007 but there were more great songs on the B side.
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Another thing: do any you also experience problems with ordering/paying this box in the MK webshop? When I arrive at point of verifying the payment with my credit card the transaction is declined. I contacted my credit card service (ABN AMRO bank / Mastercard) and they told me there is nothing wrong with my card but the MK webshop is dodgy / not to be trusted because they seem not have inplemented double verification or such a kind of security protocol that is internationally mandatory since the start of this year.
Well at least now there is no doubt that it really is mk.com. Anything else with the smallest idea of professionality would be a clear sign that it is not them.
LE
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Not really sure of the market for this. Those who have a nostalgia for vinyl who also happen to like Mark's solo career... That's all.
This narrow market becomes even narrower when you consider those may not want to buy it when they already own the music in another format and/or resent the fact Knopfler fans are constantly denied anything unreleased or exciting.
That’s me.
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Do we know for sure the CD's are also remastered versions? I wouldn't be surprised if they just used the current masters for the CD's.
Not sure, but promo picture says that CD are remastered: https://superdeluxeedition.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/cover-2.jpg
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This narrow market becomes even narrower when you consider those may not want to buy it when they already own the music in another format and/or resent the fact Knopfler fans are constantly denied anything unreleased or exciting.
I fall into this category.
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Darling Pretty single is already on Spotify. Says it’s remastered in 2021 and includes GT and MCTF
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Darling Pretty single is already on Spotify. Says it’s remastered in 2021 and includes GT and MCTF
"Says" is the right word, personally I found absolutely no difference in sound... Of course, you may say it's just a streaming service, even though I stream at 320kbs, but either way, certainly no eye-opening experience in remasters of these tracks. How can you improve that already was recorded and mastered perfectly anyway?
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Not really sure of the market for this. Those who have a nostalgia for vinyl who also happen to like Mark's solo career... That's all.
That’s me.
Had a picture of you in my head as I wrote that! :lol
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Not really sure of the market for this. Those who have a nostalgia for vinyl who also happen to like Mark's solo career... That's all.
That’s me.
Had a picture of you in my head as I wrote that! :lol
I think of you a lot too. :)
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Not really sure of the market for this. Those who have a nostalgia for vinyl who also happen to like Mark's solo career... That's all.
That’s me.
Had a picture of you in my head as I wrote that! :lol
I think of you a lot too. :)
Gotta admit that's quite impressive that Mark releases a whole box of 6 CDs and 11 LPs just for dustyvalentino :lol
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For me too :)
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Not really sure of the market for this. Those who have a nostalgia for vinyl who also happen to like Mark's solo career... That's all.
That’s me.
Had a picture of you in my head as I wrote that! :lol
I think of you a lot too. :)
Gotta admit that's quite impressive that Mark releases a whole box of 6 CDs and 11 LPs just for dustyvalentino :lol
You have just discovered the biggest secret ever. Universal calls Dusty before anything they release. That's why most of things released lately are vinyls.
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Cd set is fairly priced .
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Not really sure of the market for this. Those who have a nostalgia for vinyl who also happen to like Mark's solo career... That's all.
That’s me.
Had a picture of you in my head as I wrote that! :lol
I think of you a lot too. :)
Gotta admit that's quite impressive that Mark releases a whole box of 6 CDs and 11 LPs just for dustyvalentino :lol
You have just discovered the biggest secret ever. Universal calls Dusty before anything they release. That's why most of things released lately are vinyls.
Plenty of people out there who want to buy this stuff away from us getalifers.
Interest from the audiophiles:
https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/mark-knopfler-solo-albums-1996-2007-box-just-announced.1100339/
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Plenty of people out there who want to buy this stuff away from us getalifers.
Interest from the audiophiles:
https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/mark-knopfler-solo-albums-1996-2007-box-just-announced.1100339/
Interesting take on 300 copies. I know that this thing could get pretty rare, but 300 copies! That's less than The Ragpicker LPs were made, quite impressive. So I think one should think about buying this as an investment if that's true. I'm not going to because it's too expensive, but the price is fair anyway. I paid this money for a single The Ragpicker LP and now you can buy eleven records! for its price, including never released before and fully remastered.
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I don't believe there will only be 300 copies. That will be for that seller only.
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My opinion about those releases:
https://youtu.be/YgEjI5PZa78
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I personally appreciate the several efforts that have been taken to release new versions and remasters of both DS and MK. The shared links in this forum about the process for remastering Brothers in Arms and Local Hero give evidence that a great cure has been taken in the reissue of these albums and I wouldn´t expect something different for the MK albums. I have already heard the remastered versions of Darling Pretty, Gravy Train and My Claim To Fame in Spotify and could certainly tell the difference between the original versions. My first impression was: "Wait a minute this is not what I´ve heard in the past..." After a couple of listens, I found the track´s sound clearer and pristine, specifically in the midrange. Certainly there are plenty of details that will reveal in future listens and hopefully other forum members will chime in with their appreciations.
I have always wondered how, specifically, Golden Heart and Sailing would sound on vinyl. From what I heard in Spotify I can adventure that they will sound impressive.
Looking forward to hear all of these albums again,
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Since yesterday as "a new release" on Spotify. The cd single Darling Pretty including Gravy Train and My clame to fame.
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I have already booked my dose of new vinyls, I expected more in terms of unreleased, but it is the same old story, I agree with those who over the years have seen the expectation of new reissues disappointed in all respects, care and attention could make a difference. In my opinion, over the years record companies and management have diminished the appeal that the Dire Straits brand had with effects also on the MK brand, in fact if you look around, names like Pink Floyd, Queen, Fleetwood Mac, to a few, they are always supported by promotional campaigns, in fact they continue to sell. with dire straits they came out with studio collection, vinyls ok but the cd box looks like a joke, I'm afraid to reopen it as it seems fragile and coarse. I always repeat the old story to myself, why not add unreleased live shows, demos? why not?
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Because MK doesn't want to and he wants to keep it all "low profile". A man with many many issues.
LE
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I ordered the LP set on recordstore as I have awful experiences with MK.com. For those interested, I found a coupon code which gives you a 10% discount: RSSEZHEL10
https://www.recordstore.co.uk/recordstore/recordstore/The-Studio-Albums-1996-2007-Limited-Edition-11-LP-Boxset/72LO0000000
I've missed the Privateering box set, and I still have regrets so I won't be missing this one ;D
Any sign of a 2009-2018 collection yet?
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Do we know if the album vinyls in the Box are presented in gatefold double sleeves or in single sleeves?
Thanks.
LE
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Because MK doesn't want to and he wants to keep it all "low profile". A man with many many issues.
LE
IMO Its not all his fault. Something happened with record companies when he wanted to continue his solo career at the time of STP. Strange things happened, one among all is that Privateering was released one year later in america, absurd for one of his greatness....I think that record companies have put him on the sidelines since realized that Dire Straits would never come back...
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That's true. The voice and guitar of dire straits. The last time this sticker appeared on the album The Ragpicker's Dream - it's the label's job.
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I ordered the LP set on recordstore as I have awful experiences with MK.com. For those interested, I found a coupon code which gives you a 10% discount: RSSEZHEL10
https://www.recordstore.co.uk/recordstore/recordstore/The-Studio-Albums-1996-2007-Limited-Edition-11-LP-Boxset/72LO0000000
I've missed the Privateering box set, and I still have regrets so I won't be missing this one ;D
Any sign of a 2009-2018 collection yet?
Thanks for the discount code!
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Whoo, boy. Nothing like hearing again what you've heard many times before. Predictability and routine are highly underrated. People who don't appreciate boredom are missing out big time.
:disbelief
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That's true. The voice and guitar of dire straits. The last time this sticker appeared on the album The Ragpicker's Dream - it's the label's job.
If I remember correctly Mark was not happy with this sticker.
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Yes, I remember. Earlier (2000) he said in an interview that it was the label's decision. Mark didn't know about it and the album was already in stores.
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Any sign of a 2009-2018 collection yet?
if you consider that there have been box sets since 2009 (Get Lucky), I m not sure there will be a 2009-2018 collection
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Well, I'm happy to have these albums on vinyl.
Me too!! I can’t wait to have GH & STP on vinyl! I absolutely love vinyl but find that MK/DS records are so hard to find!! Especially here in NZ! ;D
This release is so special and we all have to embrace it!
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Any sign of a 2009-2018 collection yet?
if you consider that there have been box sets since 2009 (Get Lucky), I m not sure there will be a 2009-2018 collection
I expect Mark's next record to be his last and after that we will have a 2008-2022 or whenever Box with the new one included with hopefully some more vinyl bonus stuff.
LE
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Any sign of a 2009-2018 collection yet?
if you consider that there have been box sets since 2009 (Get Lucky), I m not sure there will be a 2009-2018 collection
I expect Mark's next record to be his last and after that we will have a 2008-2022 or whenever Box with the new one included with hopefully some more vinyl bonus stuff.
LE
It all depends on the title and cover picture, and especially lyrics, intuition seems to work pretty good when it comes to whether it was intended as the last one or not. The 2009–20XX collection would be nice because LPs for the newer albums, though released properly, are sometimes still hard to find.
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A great gift from MK to his fans!!
Will be special to have this collection!!
MB
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Absolutely fabulous! Order going in!!
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Well, I'm happy to have these albums on vinyl.
Especially GH & STP.....
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Well, I'm happy to have these albums on vinyl.
Yep me too.
Those new t-shirts are awful though.
T shirts aren't great but I like the turntable mat though...
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Just put my order in for the Vinyl box set and this got me thinking...
This will obviously be the first time on Vinyl for GH & STP and also the B sides. But also TRD and Shangri-la were only released as limited editions which I never had! I have KTGC on Vinyl with the added CD....
Obviously All the Roadrunning (2006) wasn't deemed good enough for a re-release??
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Just put my order in for the Vinyl box set and this got me thinking...
This will obviously be the first time on Vinyl for GH & STP and also the B sides. But also TRD and Shangri-la were only released as limited editions which I never had! I have KTGC on Vinyl with the added CD....
Obviously All the Roadrunning (2006) wasn't deemed good enough for a re-release??
Turns out Kill To Get Vinyl is also extremely hard to find, as well as every other limited one, so all the LPs are still pretty valuable and this release is a breath of fresh air (until, of course, it will be sold out). All the Roadrunning would be amazing to re-release because it's so expensive! I know a couple of guys here in Russia who are willing to sell All The Roadrunning LP for $250, but fortunately, I'm not an audiophile or a collector so I don't need it :lol
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Just put my order in for the Vinyl box set and this got me thinking...
This will obviously be the first time on Vinyl for GH & STP and also the B sides. But also TRD and Shangri-la were only released as limited editions which I never had! I have KTGC on Vinyl with the added CD....
Obviously All the Roadrunning (2006) wasn't deemed good enough for a re-release??
Turns out Kill To Get Vinyl is also extremely hard to find, as well as every other limited one, so all the LPs are still pretty valuable and this release is a breath of fresh air (until, of course, it will be sold out). All the Roadrunning would be amazing to re-release because it's so expensive! I know a couple of guys here in Russia who are willing to sell All The Roadrunning LP for $250, but fortunately, I'm not an audiophile or a collector so I don't need it :lol
KTGC on Vinyl is like you say, very hard to find and can be very expensive should you tag one down - I'm extremely thankful I did and didn't pay over the odds for it either.
TRD on Vinyl incidentally was individually numbered so that makes it highly valuable....
ATR would be great on Vinyl but I cannot see that happening anytime soon...
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KTGC on Vinyl is like you say, very hard to find and can be very expensive should you tag one down - I'm extremely thankful I did and didn't pay over the odds for it either.
TRD on Vinyl incidentally was individually numbered so that makes it highly valuable....
ATR would be great on Vinyl but I cannot see that happening anytime soon...
By the way, I do have TRD vinyl, but mine isn't numbered. Weird. And I listened to it just one time. Also weird :lol
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KTGC on Vinyl is like you say, very hard to find and can be very expensive should you tag one down - I'm extremely thankful I did and didn't pay over the odds for it either.
TRD on Vinyl incidentally was individually numbered so that makes it highly valuable....
ATR would be great on Vinyl but I cannot see that happening anytime soon...
By the way, I do have TRD vinyl, but mine isn't numbered. Weird. And I listened to it just one time. Also weird :lol
From Jeroens 'On Every Bootleg' website (Excellent reference)
Mark Knopfler's third solo album 'The Ragpickers Dream'. Strange edition; it features the blue sticker on the front mentioning that it's the limited numbered edition, but the back cover does not feature any number. Looks like they accidently put the sticker on the front cover or forgot to print a number on the back cover, or it is a promo copy.
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My RPD vynil is also not numbered ???
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My RPD vynil is also not numbered ???
Some were, some weren't it appears according to Jeroens - On every bootleg webpage.
Have you the white box on the rear where a number would be? I guess both editions are collectible!!
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My RPD vynil is also not numbered ???
Some were, some weren't it appears according to Jeroens - On every bootleg webpage.
Have you the white box on the rear where a number would be?
Yes
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My RPD vynil is also not numbered ???
Some were, some weren't it appears according to Jeroens - On every bootleg webpage.
Have you the white box on the rear where a number would be?
Yes
and also the blue sticker saying it is a limited edition NUMBERED Vinyl on the front?
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Mine has the sticker, but has no number, though there's a place for it. Anyway, personally, I don't care, I've seen numbered ones for sale and who cares, it's still a vinyl record.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BU10nauAA6M/
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Mine has the sticker, but has no number, though there's a place for it. Anyway, personally, I don't care, I've seen numbered ones for sale and who cares, it's still a vinyl record.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BU10nauAA6M/
Nice, like you say it's only a number. It's probably just as collectible as the numbered version to be honest!! :wave
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Mine has the sticker, but has no number, though there's a place for it. Anyway, personally, I don't care, I've seen numbered ones for sale and who cares, it's still a vinyl record.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BU10nauAA6M/
You have a numbered one as well?
https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=6225.0
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Mine has the sticker, but has no number, though there's a place for it. Anyway, personally, I don't care, I've seen numbered ones for sale and who cares, it's still a vinyl record.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BU10nauAA6M/
You have a numbered one as well?
https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=6225.0
A good catch Knopflerfan! I think I was wrong there because I can't remember the number and I have a pretty good memory when it comes to numbers, so if it had one I would remember it. Why I can't just look it up? Because I've lost the record somewhere :lol
I've lost it somewhere and when I find it, I probably need to sell it to someone who would really appreciate it. I only listened to it one time and bought a record player just for it. And then I sold the player, and the record is still in my possession (somewhere). This is the kind of a guy I am!
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Mine has the sticker, but has no number, though there's a place for it. Anyway, personally, I don't care, I've seen numbered ones for sale and who cares, it's still a vinyl record.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BU10nauAA6M/
You have a numbered one as well?
https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=6225.0
A good catch Knopflerfan! I think I was wrong there because I can't remember the number and I have a pretty good memory when it comes to numbers, so if it had one I would remember it. Why I can't just look it up? Because I've lost the record somewhere :lol
I've lost it somewhere and when I find it, I probably need to sell it to someone who would really appreciate it. I only listened to it one time and bought a record player just for it. And then I sold the player, and the record is still in my possession (somewhere). This is the kind of a guy I am!
:lol :lol :wave
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My RPD vynil is also not numbered ???
Some were, some weren't it appears according to Jeroens - On every bootleg webpage.
Have you the white box on the rear where a number would be?
Yes
and also the blue sticker saying it is a limited edition NUMBERED Vinyl on the front?
Yes
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My RPD vynil is also not numbered ???
Some were, some weren't it appears according to Jeroens - On every bootleg webpage.
Have you the white box on the rear where a number would be?
Yes
and also the blue sticker saying it is a limited edition NUMBERED Vinyl on the front?
Yes
Collectible!!
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Obviously All the Roadrunning (2006) wasn't deemed good enough for a re-release??
not because of that, it's because it's considered in another dimension, infact they released an official live of that tour,
both audio and video, something not even possible or conceivable for MK solo albums/tours
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I guess wether they release the other albums will depend on sales of this set.
Seeing as everyone in this thread says this set is crap I guess it will sell badly.
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I guess wether they release the other albums will depend on sales of this set.
Seeing as everyone in this thread says this set is crap I guess it will sell badly.
I'm one of those all for this Vinyl set - in fact I've pre ordered it. Fingers crossed it does actually sell well...I wonder like you if the next albums will be released dependant on this box set.
However as the other albums have ALL been on Vinyl before I wonder if this would sell?
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Obviously All the Roadrunning (2006) wasn't deemed good enough for a re-release??
not because of that, it's because it's considered in another dimension, infact they released an official live of that tour,
both audio and video, something not even possible or conceivable for MK solo albums/tours
True, but I wondered why it wasn't considered as part of the 'Studio' Albums box set? Especially as it was released in the time frame for the collection...
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I guess wether they release the other albums will depend on sales of this set.
Seeing as everyone in this thread says this set is crap I guess it will sell badly.
Not everyone. I'm waiting for this box.
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I guess wether they release the other albums will depend on sales of this set.
Seeing as everyone in this thread says this set is crap I guess it will sell badly.
Not everyone. I'm waiting for this box.
:thumbsup
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:)
I had a dream that this box was joined by the concert with The Opera House, Boothbay Harbor 20th September 2006.
Mark performed a few songs for the first and last time. A great concert.
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I had a dream that this box was joined by the concert with The Opera House, Boothbay Harbor 20th September 2006.
Mark performed a few songs for the first and last time. A great concert.
And a free DVD/Bluray of the documentary we are all waiting for!!!!!! :lol :lol
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Yes :)
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Personally I'm not too excited for this box...
Why? I've already spent some money, buying:
TRPD numbered 2LP sealed copy
Shangri la USA 2LP in NM- condition
KTGC USA 1st press with bonus CD sealed copy.
If they released GH+STP separately on vinyl i would get them instantly.. but more vinyls of same albums I already have? No, it won't happen.
Then if release the rest of the albums in a box, i won't get them either, since i already bought all boxsets of the last 4 albums and in fact they are all still unopened.
So more vinyls of these albums too? No!
So I'm disappointed they didn't release GH+STP separately this time. But OK, they want to keep milking the cow releasing same stuff over and over again....
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Confirmation of the B sides.....
A special Birthday present for dmg with 'The Long Highway' on Vinyl!!
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Personally I'm not too excited for this box...
Why? I've already spent some money, buying:
TRPD numbered 2LP sealed copy
Shangri la USA 2LP in NM- condition
KTGC USA 1st press with bonus CD sealed copy.
If they released GH+STP separately on vinyl i would get them instantly.. but more vinyls of same albums I already have? No, it won't happen.
Then if release the rest of the albums in a box, i won't get them either, since i already bought all boxsets of the last 4 albums and in fact they are all still unopened.
So more vinyls of these albums too? No!
So I'm disappointed they didn't release GH+STP separately this time. But OK, they want to keep milking the cow releasing same stuff over and over again....
Likewise I am like you although I only have KTGC (with CD) copy as unfortunately I never got hold of the numbered TRD or Shangri-la and so I'm looking forward to at last getting them on Vinyl. But to have GH & STP on Vinyl will be awesome too!!
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Confirmation of the B sides.....
A special Birthday present for dmg with 'The Long Highway' on Vinyl!!
It's been growing on me! It's maybe the 3rd or 4th best track on there now for me. ;D
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Confirmation of the B sides.....
A special Birthday present for dmg with 'The Long Highway' on Vinyl!!
It's been growing on me! It's maybe the 3rd or 4th best track on there now for me. ;D
What!!!! Really??!!!! Hahaha!
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It's a crime that The Long Highway was never released officially in any album. It's an even bigger crime that it was never played live after 1996.
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It's a crime that The Long Highway was never released officially in any album. It's an even bigger crime that it was never played live after 1996.
I think it was actually played a handful of times on the STP tour in 2001, but never since then to my knowledge. It would be good to hear live it again though. Beautiful song.
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Yes. The Long Highway was on its first few shows in 2001.
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Yes. The Long Highway was on its first few shows in 2001.
Fabulous tune, just fantastic!
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That's true. Classic Mark for me..
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That's true. Classic Mark for me..
100% classic MK
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:thumbsup
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Live recordings appear on Our Shangri-La :think Has this topic already been? If so, sorry
I know there was a series of concerts that could be officially buy, but I wonder what will be on this album.
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It turns out I was wrong about my limited edition numbered "The Ragpicker's Dream" LP because mine is actually numbered! I just found it and it has #1628.
If anybody wants to buy it from me, please DM me! Or write me to: fffoma@gmail.com
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It turns out I was wrong about my limited edition numbered "The Ragpicker's Dream" LP because mine is actually numbered! I just found it and it has #1628.
If anybody wants to buy it from me, please DM me! Or write me to: fffoma@gmail.com
Oh wow, might well message you....
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Hi all! Long time! The most wonderful thing is that every new release makes us anxious like kids, elevates us from our everyday life and brings us back here to discuss it!
I find wonderful that GH and STP are finally released in vinyl. It is a something I have wanted like Dusty. I know that this release does not offer something new apart from the format for these two releases, but I also believe that although these (vinyl) releases target the fans, due to being over 140 Euros, the price is fantastic! Imagine having his first period solo releases, all in all 11 LPs for 140 Euros. It is a bargain. And the CD price is even better, merely 35 Euros. I felt the same for the CD - Dire Straits boxset last year which was even cheaper, around 25-30 Euros. Of course for those who already have them, it might seem hard to come up with 140 Euros just to get the same old releases - just for the two first solo albums. And of course, the fact that they are remastered does not mean anything until we know if it is better sounding than the already in circulation. But imagine the music fans that will take advantage of the CD release to enjoy and discover MK's solo work. Maybe we will have some of them write here after a couple of months after the release. Anyway, music is one of the things that make life worth living. The marketing side of music will always discourage and disappoint many of us, but these releases are relatively cheaply priced.
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An additional Gravy Train B-Sides album is also a good idea.
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An additional Gravy Train B-Sides album is also a good idea.
I'm looking forward to the B sides on Vinyl along with GH & STP
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:thumbsup
There is no chronology for this album but I like it.
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It's nice to have the official stuff now on vinyl completely. But I believe any other artist would at least have put one or two (or three) really new songs onto this release.
LE
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It's nice to have the official stuff now on vinyl completely. But I believe any other artist would at least have put one or two (or three) really new songs onto this release.
LE
Would have been nice but alas it's not to be......
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Hi all! Long time! The most wonderful thing is that every new release makes us anxious like kids, elevates us from our everyday life and brings us back here to discuss it!
I find wonderful that GH and STP are finally released in vinyl. It is a something I have wanted like Dusty. I know that this release does not offer something new apart from the format for these two releases, but I also believe that although these (vinyl) releases target the fans, due to being over 140 Euros, the price is fantastic! Imagine having his first period solo releases, all in all 11 LPs for 140 Euros. It is a bargain. And the CD price is even better, merely 35 Euros. I felt the same for the CD - Dire Straits boxset last year which was even cheaper, around 25-30 Euros. Of course for those who already have them, it might seem hard to come up with 140 Euros just to get the same old releases - just for the two first solo albums. And of course, the fact that they are remastered does not mean anything until we know if it is better sounding than the already in circulation. But imagine the music fans that will take advantage of the CD release to enjoy and discover MK's solo work. Maybe we will have some of them write here after a couple of months after the release. Anyway, music is one of the things that make life worth living. The marketing side of music will always discourage and disappoint many of us, but these releases are relatively cheaply priced.
Nice to have you back!
I was listening to LoG vfrom my DS vinyl box yesterday and it really sounds amazing, hopefully these MK records are just as good.
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Hey vgonis, nice to see you back ! :thumbsup
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Thank you guys! Nice to see you all again! I am really sorry I miss out, but long hours at work, leave little time for much else. Thankfully, now, I work in a record store and cover the music part efficiently enough to not miss it at home!
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Where was available the lp box at 140 euros? Amazon Spain has it at 190 euros...
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Thank you guys! Nice to see you all again! I am really sorry I miss out, but long hours at work, leave little time for much else. Thankfully, now, I work in a record store and cover the music part efficiently enough to not miss it at home!
Well at least you are back, that's all that matters!
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Where was available the lp box at 140 euros? Amazon Spain has it at 190 euros...
181 Euro's here in the UK from Amazon UK......
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Cover with info Sticker......
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It's nice to have the official stuff now on vinyl completely. But I believe any other artist would at least have put one or two (or three) really new songs onto this release.
LE
But he is no any other artist - he is Mark Knopfler. ;)
Nothing new to all of us, isn't it?
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It's nice to have the official stuff now on vinyl completely. But I believe any other artist would at least have put one or two (or three) really new songs onto this release.
LE
But he is no any other artist - he is Mark Knopfler. ;)
Nothing new to all of us, isn't it?
Yes exactly, Don't expect too much!! :lol
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Thank you guys! Nice to see you all again! I am really sorry I miss out, but long hours at work, leave little time for much else. Thankfully, now, I work in a record store and cover the music part efficiently enough to not miss it at home!
:thumbsup
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Hey guys! I also want to order my set. Being in the EU, I assume I take the set on which it doesn't say "UK product", right?
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Hey guys! I also want to order my set. Being in the EU, I assume I take the set on which it doesn't say "UK product", right?
Where are you trying to order from?
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Hey guys! I also want to order my set. Being in the EU, I assume I take the set on which it doesn't say "UK product", right?
Where are you trying to order from?
Austria.
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Hey guys! I also want to order my set. Being in the EU, I assume I take the set on which it doesn't say "UK product", right?
Where are you trying to order from?
Austria.
I mean what store?
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Now i have ordered a BOX-Set via JPC.de.
Available according to the release-infos through JPC.de 1.10.2021.
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The 2021 remastered version of the Cannibals single + b-sides is now on Spotify.
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Hey guys! I also want to order my set. Being in the EU, I assume I take the set on which it doesn't say "UK product", right?
Where are you trying to order from?
Austria.
I mean what store?
https://shop.markknopfler.com
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The 2021 remastered version of the Cannibals single + b-sides is now on Spotify.
:thumbsup
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The 2021 remastered version of the Cannibals single + b-sides is now on Spotify.
Anybody think they can hear a difference?!
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The 2021 remastered version of the Cannibals single + b-sides is now on Spotify.
Anybody think they can hear a difference?!
"Think" is the key word here :lol
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The 2021 remastered version of the Cannibals single + b-sides is now on Spotify.
Anybody think they can hear a difference?!
"Think" is the key word here :lol
Slightly cleaner sound perhaps?? :hmm
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Now i have ordered a BOX-Set via JPC.de.
Available according to the release-infos through JPC.de 1.10.2021.
me too :-)
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And so with just 4 days to go, I'm getting quite excited about going to pick this box set up..
Here is the link to the competition on the main MK webpage...(not sure if any one has posted the link?) https://www.markknopfler.com/contest/
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And so with just 4 days to go, I'm getting quite excited about going to pick this box set up..
Here is the link to the competition on the main MK webpage...(not sure if any one has posted the link?) https://www.markknopfler.com/contest/
Wow, just 4 days? Time flies! I'm pretty sure you all will be pleased with the box. Those two first-time vinyls are worth the price of admission!
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And so with just 4 days to go, I'm getting quite excited about going to pick this box set up..
Here is the link to the competition on the main MK webpage...(not sure if any one has posted the link?) https://www.markknopfler.com/contest/
Wow, just 4 days? Time flies! I'm pretty sure you all will be pleased with the box. Those two first-time vinyls are worth the price of admission!
I was just chatting with my better half tonight about the box set and suddenly realised it is this Friday coming!!! Can't wait to get it now!!!
Am really looking forward to hearing both GH and StP on vinyl and of course the B sides too!!!
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Some people on FB have received it already.
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Some people on FB have received it already.
Good old pre-orders......
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjXilgjYQU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjXilgjYQU
Thanks Pavel, I've opted not to look at this until I've picked mine up... :wave
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjXilgjYQU
Thanks Pavel, I've opted not to look at this until I've picked mine up... :wave
Sure, I can understand. However, since I'm not going to get this release, watched the whole video :lol
It was quite nice, though I was surprised when the guy pointed out The Ragpicker and said it was recorded in British Grove Studios.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjXilgjYQU
Thanks Pavel, I've opted not to look at this until I've picked mine up... :wave
Sure, I can understand. However, since I'm not going to get this release, watched the whole video :lol
It was quite nice, though I was surprised when the guy pointed out The Ragpicker and said it was recorded in British Grove Studios.
Top of the head - Ocean Way Studios??
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjXilgjYQU
Thanks Pavel, I've opted not to look at this until I've picked mine up... :wave
Sure, I can understand. However, since I'm not going to get this release, watched the whole video :lol
It was quite nice, though I was surprised when the guy pointed out The Ragpicker and said it was recorded in British Grove Studios.
The first album to be recorded at BG was Razorlight's in 2005. KTGC was the first MK album to be recorded at BG in 2007.
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And so with just 4 days to go, I'm getting quite excited about going to pick this box set up..
Here is the link to the competition on the main MK webpage...(not sure if any one has posted the link?) https://www.markknopfler.com/contest/
Wow, just 4 days? Time flies! I'm pretty sure you all will be pleased with the box. Those two first-time vinyls are worth the price of admission!
I was just chatting with my better half tonight about the box set and suddenly realised it is this Friday coming!!! Can't wait to get it now!!!
Am really looking forward to hearing both GH and StP on vinyl and of course the B sides too!!!
:thumbsup
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In my memory the first one thing that Mark had recorded at his studio was overdubbing for BB King 80 year album duets, made after gigs in Netherlands in 2005 (I was there)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjXilgjYQU
Thanks Pavel, I've opted not to look at this until I've picked mine up... :wave
Sure, I can understand. However, since I'm not going to get this release, watched the whole video :lol
It was quite nice, though I was surprised when the guy pointed out The Ragpicker and said it was recorded in British Grove Studios.
The first album to be recorded at BG was Razorlight's in 2005. KTGC was the first MK album to be recorded at BG in 2007.
Brilliant, thanks Superval!
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In my memory the first one thing that Mark had recorded at his studio was overdubbing for BB King 80 year album duets, made after gigs in Netherlands in 2005 (I was there)
I think some of Shangrila was done there, mixing I think, but for sure "All the roadrunning" was mixed in British Grove.
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So, on the video he says he has basically done next to nothing to the original albums, as they already sounded great, which is fair enough I suppose.
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So, on the video he says he has basically done next to nothing to the original albums, as they already sounded great, which is fair enough I suppose.
Closet fan I wonder? He was basically saying that a Mark Knopfler record was quality anyway!!
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So, on the video he says he has basically done next to nothing to the original albums, as they already sounded great, which is fair enough I suppose.
He got paid ;D :lol
And cut the vinyls!
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So, on the video he says he has basically done next to nothing to the original albums, as they already sounded great, which is fair enough I suppose.
Closet fan I wonder? He was basically saying that a Mark Knopfler record was quality anyway!!
He was very complimentary, but as alluded to by Julio, he's hardly going to say that it's a load of crap!
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So, on the video he says he has basically done next to nothing to the original albums, as they already sounded great, which is fair enough I suppose.
He got paid ;D :lol
And cut the vinyls!
And hardly used any of his hi tech equipment to improve them!!! :lol
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So, on the video he says he has basically done next to nothing to the original albums, as they already sounded great, which is fair enough I suppose.
Are you suggesting that’s an example of money for nothing?
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So, on the video he says he has basically done next to nothing to the original albums, as they already sounded great, which is fair enough I suppose.
Are you suggesting that’s an example of money for nothing?
We are getting GH & StP along with the B sides on Vinyl at last! My only gripe is why couldn't GH & StP not also have been 'gatefold' editions?!
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So, on the video he says he has basically done next to nothing to the original albums, as they already sounded great, which is fair enough I suppose.
Are you suggesting that’s an example of money for nothing?
We are getting GH & StP along with the B sides on Vinyl at last! My only gripe is why couldn't GH & StP not also have been 'gatefold' editions?!
Good point. I guess they just couldn't be arsed doing the additional artwork.
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So, on the video he says he has basically done next to nothing to the original albums, as they already sounded great, which is fair enough I suppose.
Are you suggesting that’s an example of money for nothing?
We are getting GH & StP along with the B sides on Vinyl at last! My only gripe is why couldn't GH & StP not also have been 'gatefold' editions?!
Good point. I guess they just couldn't be arsed doing the additional artwork.
One presumes not....Would have been nice to have gatefolds....
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We are getting GH & StP along with the B sides on Vinyl at last! My only gripe is why couldn't GH & StP not also have been 'gatefold' editions?!
Mine arrived today, I'm listening to the B-side record now & it sounds really amazing!
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We are getting GH & StP along with the B sides on Vinyl at last! My only gripe is why couldn't GH & StP not also have been 'gatefold' editions?!
Mine arrived today, I'm listening to the B-side record now & it sounds really amazing!
Excellent! I'm picking my box set up this afternoon and can't wait!!!
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Initial comments from the Steve Hoffman forum are that the lps sound great but the new cds are horribly compressed.
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Initial comments from the Steve Hoffman forum are that the lps sound great but the new cds are horribly compressed.
Bizzare, why would they do that? I've got through the B-side record, KTGC & most of SL now. The B-side record REALLY sounded amazing on my system, maybe its the contrast from the digital files I had? It's been a great Friday afternoon & now evening :)
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There’s been a load of “brickwalling” over the last 20 years. You would think MK would care about this stuff.
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Picked the Vinyl box set up this afternoon from my local 'independant' record store. I was allowed a sneak peek as it's for Christmas from the other half...
Very impressed with the packaging and how well it came packaged...
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Picked the Vinyl box set up this afternoon from my local 'independant' record store. I was allowed a sneak peek as it's for Christmas from the other half...
Very impressed with the packaging and how well it came packaged...
:thumbsup :)
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Initial comments from the Steve Hoffman forum are that the lps sound great but the new cds are horribly compressed.
Bizzare, why would they do that? I've got through the B-side record, KTGC & most of SL now. The B-side record REALLY sounded amazing on my system, maybe its the contrast from the digital files I had? It's been a great Friday afternoon & now evening :)
I can definitely confirm this. I'm currently listen to the B-sides and I'm most impressed with the brilliant sound. Really amazing!
The CD box also came very well packed.
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Initial comments from the Steve Hoffman forum are that the lps sound great but the new cds are horribly compressed.
Bizzare, why would they do that? I've got through the B-side record, KTGC & most of SL now. The B-side record REALLY sounded amazing on my system, maybe its the contrast from the digital files I had? It's been a great Friday afternoon & now evening :)
I can definitely confirm this. I'm currently listen to the B-sides and I'm most impressed with the brilliant sound. Really amazing!
The CD box also came very well packed.
Ah, don't tease Dusty & I as we've both got just over two months until we can listen to them!!!!
Seriously though it's good to hear they are good!!
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And what about the CDs? Any comments on the CD box? ;D
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And what about the CDs? Any comments on the CD box? ;D
There are comments on Steve Hoffmann and measurements, the new CDs appear to be heavily compressed/brickwalled if that bothers you.
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My box just got in, first impressions:
- Stunning high and low frequencies, and indeed, harder compression/limiting
- Great work on the GH/STP artwork, quite amazing that all files/photos were still there
- Golden Heart sounds really fresh but I have to get used to the 'new' STP sound
- The Ragpicker's Dream always sounded dull to my ears, sadly it's not much better now
- Shangri-La always sounded superb, now it sounds even better, like you're in the room, it's amazing
- KTGC always has been one of my favorite mixes of all records in the world, but I don't think the increased compression works here
- Great packaging but a small note from MK or some kind of introduction would have been nice
- Credits for Gravy Train (the song) are partly missing ;D
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My box just got in, first impressions:
- Stunning high and low frequencies, and indeed, harder compression/limiting
- Great work on the GH/STP artwork, quite amazing that all files/photos were still there
- Golden Heart sounds really fresh but I have to get used to the 'new' STP sound
- The Ragpicker's Dream always sounded dull to my ears, sadly it's not much better now
- Shangri-La always sounded superb, now it sounds even better, like you're in the room, it's amazing
- KTGC always has been one of my favorite mixes of all records in the world, but I don't think the increased compression works here
- Great packaging but a small note from MK or some kind of introduction would have been nice
- Credits for Gravy Train (the song) are partly missing ;D
Presumably the CD box set??
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I wonder if that credits are ok...
It says that "My claim to fame" were recorded by Bennett, Cromwell, Worf, Cox and Guy... as far as we knew, by a magazine interview, this is the track were Paul Carrack, Bobby Irwin, Nick Lowe and others played...
Maybe MK recorded that song twice?... As far as I know this song was recorded for the Swan hunter documentary, which was recorded in 1993 and broadcasted in January 1994
"Gravy Train" credits are also wrong, as there is no mention to any drummer!
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Interesting. We didn’t know for sure that those guys played on it, it was just a guess.
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Interesting. We didn’t know for sure that those guys played on it, it was just a guess.
It is mentioned in a record collector magazine in 1994. Jim Cox didn't played in any single song in GH, and appears as playing in My Claim to Fame, recorded in 1993?
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Interesting. We didn’t know for sure that those guys played on it, it was just a guess.
It is mentioned in a record collector magazine in 1994. Jim Cox didn't played in any single song in GH, and appears as playing in My Claim to Fame, recorded in 1993?
I tend to think like Jbaent
as always it seems to proove that it has been done very amateurish
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Probably a mistake but no way to know.
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These are the clips of that January 1994 magazine, I just asked Guy, I guess he's gonna answer he doesn't remember or doesn't knows, or don't answer at all, but had to try.
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A great answer by Guy:
I’ll check on that, you could have a point. There is an ever present danger with releasing recordings from the distant past as documentation isn’t always readily available (we are working on that) and memories don’t always serve well.
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I could be wrong but I think there could just be something interesting on the horizon, reading into recent things Guy has said, the answer to your question contains "we are working on that" working on what? why would they be looking at old documentation? about who played on what!!
Another of his answers: "I agree and I’m certain something will come of all the footage."
Another of his answers, this time about releasing Two Skinny Kids: "No nudge required."
He seems to be drooping very subtle hints, we have now had 2 sets of vinyl releases, so they are in the mood for MK releases it seems.
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Oooooh, Guy teasing again!!
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I could be wrong but I think there could just be something interesting on the horizon, reading into recent things Guy has said, the answer to your question contains "we are working on that" working on what? why would they be looking at old documentation? about who played on what!!
Another of his answers: "I agree and I’m certain something will come of all the footage."
Another of his answers, this time about releasing Two Skinny Kids: "No nudge required."
He seems to be drooping very subtle hints, we have now had 2 sets of vinyl releases, so they are in the mood for MK releases it seems.
I like reading such considerations. My thinking becomes very positive. I miss new MK music very much.
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I don't believe a thing, I'm (we're) too used to such "gossips" that end in nothing.
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We live in hope!!! But probably another 'non-starter'...
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I enjoying the box for several days. It all sounds very beautiful :)
Do America should be on the sixth album. It would be 10:)
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I enjoying the box for several days. It all sounds very beautiful :)
Do America should be on the sixth album. It would be 10:)
Yes, I was thinking about this, too.
The box is great, but what I am missing are a few lines by the master. That would have been nice, wouldn't it?
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I enjoying the box for several days. It all sounds very beautiful :)
Do America should be on the sixth album. It would be 10:)
Yes, I was thinking about this, too.
The box is great, but what I am missing are a few lines by the master. That would have been nice, wouldn't it?
Yes, I was thinking about this, too. :)
What It Is should be Mexican version. I think I want too much. :)
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I enjoying the box for several days. It all sounds very beautiful :)
Do America should be on the sixth album. It would be 10:)
I don’t understand what you mean?
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I enjoying the box for several days. It all sounds very beautiful :)
Do America should be on the sixth album. It would be 10:)
Do America should be on 'Get Lucky' album?? Not so sure myself....
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I enjoying the box for several days. It all sounds very beautiful :)
Do America should be on the sixth album. It would be 10:)
Yes, I was thinking about this, too.
The box is great, but what I am missing are a few lines by the master. That would have been nice, wouldn't it?
Yes, I was thinking about this, too. :)
What It Is should be Mexican version. I think I want too much. :)
I do love the extra verse in the Mexican release....
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I enjoying the box for several days. It all sounds very beautiful :)
Do America should be on the sixth album. It would be 10:)
Do America should be on 'Get Lucky' album?? Not so sure myself....
I mean the B-Sides album :)
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I suppose it depends what version of STP you are familiar with. Do America was always on STP as far as I was concerned.
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The USA edition with Do America replacing One more matinee. Do America it was also the B side of the single Silvertown Blues.
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The USA edition with Do America replacing One more matinee. Do America it was also the B side of the single Silvertown Blues.
Do América was included in the UK version of stp, also One more matinee.
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I've both the UK edition and the 'Album Advance' promo copy and both have 'Do America'
The Promo copy does not have 'One more Matinee' and the 13 tracks are slightly in a different order...
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I have a European version of the STP without Do America. But I have the single Silvertown Blues and newest STP :)
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I've never liked Do America since I've discovered it, I felt it really did not belong to STP and I am used to STP without it. I don't think I would care much for it being included in the album.
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A ridiculous situation where fans around the world have a different idea in their heads of what the album is.
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I've both the UK edition and the 'Album Advance' promo copy and both have 'Do America'
The Promo copy does not have 'One more Matinee' and the 13 tracks are slightly in a different order...
That's because the promo copy is the American one, by Warner, which didn't had One more matinee and had Do America instead. The European one didn't had Do America and had One more matinee. The UK one had both songs. It was a mess of editions.
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I've both the UK edition and the 'Album Advance' promo copy and both have 'Do America'
The Promo copy does not have 'One more Matinee' and the 13 tracks are slightly in a different order...
That's because the promo copy is the American one, by Warner, which didn't had One more matinee and had Do America instead. The European one didn't had Do America and had One more matinee. The UK one had both songs. It was a mess of editions.
What a mess!!
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I've both the UK edition and the 'Album Advance' promo copy and both have 'Do America'
The Promo copy does not have 'One more Matinee' and the 13 tracks are slightly in a different order...
That's because the promo copy is the American one, by Warner, which didn't had One more matinee and had Do America instead. The European one didn't had Do America and had One more matinee. The UK one had both songs. It was a mess of editions.
Exactly! It's great that they remembered this song.
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Back to What it is and the extra verse on the Mexican release, I'm curious as to why the Mexicans were lucky enough to warrant having the extended version?
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And I think this is a one-off episode in the history of DS / MK.
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Back to What it is and the extra verse on the Mexican release, I'm curious as to why the Mexicans were lucky enough to warrant having the extended version?
Just a mistake by the record company somewhere along the line.
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Perhaps it was a mistake to skip an extra line:)
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Back to What it is and the extra verse on the Mexican release, I'm curious as to why the Mexicans were lucky enough to warrant having the extended version?
Just a mistake by the record company somewhere along the line.
Huge mistake in my books, I know it's only one verse but once you've heard it, the 'standard' album version just isn't the same!!
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Back to What it is and the extra verse on the Mexican release, I'm curious as to why the Mexicans were lucky enough to warrant having the extended version?
Just a mistake by the record company somewhere along the line.
Huge mistake in my books, I know it's only one verse but once you've heard it, the 'standard' album version just isn't the same!!
:thumbsup
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Back to What it is and the extra verse on the Mexican release, I'm curious as to why the Mexicans were lucky enough to warrant having the extended version?
Just a mistake by the record company somewhere along the line.
Huge mistake in my books, I know it's only one verse but once you've heard it, the 'standard' album version just isn't the same!!
:thumbsup
Yes, after the extended version I know exactly where they cut the "standard" one. I love the full version so much, never listen to the short one...
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Back to What it is and the extra verse on the Mexican release, I'm curious as to why the Mexicans were lucky enough to warrant having the extended version?
Just a mistake by the record company somewhere along the line.
Huge mistake in my books, I know it's only one verse but once you've heard it, the 'standard' album version just isn't the same!!
:thumbsup
Yes, after the extended version I know exactly where they cut the "standard" one. I love the full version so much, never listen to the short one...
No, I hardly listen to the 'shorter' version now either well apart from the Live 'shorter' version.....ooooh I wonder if he ever played the extra verse Live???
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Probably not. I have not heard.
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Probably not. I have not heard.
No, I don't recall hearing it either....
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Probably not. I have not heard.
No, I don't recall hearing it either....
no he never sang the extra verse, but he did replace the line "caldonia blues " by "drums beat the tatoo" or vice versa, depends on gigs
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I prefer the shorter version. The extra verse sounds creepy.
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I prefer the shorter version. The extra verse sounds creepy.
Yeah, I get that....
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Back to What it is and the extra verse on the Mexican release, I'm curious as to why the Mexicans were lucky enough to warrant having the extended version?
Just a mistake by the record company somewhere along the line.
Huge mistake in my books, I know it's only one verse but once you've heard it, the 'standard' album version just isn't the same!!
:thumbsup
Yes, after the extended version I know exactly where they cut the "standard" one. I love the full version so much, never listen to the short one...
No, I hardly listen to the 'shorter' version now either well apart from the Live 'shorter' version.....ooooh I wonder if he ever played the extra verse Live???
In fact, there is a bootleg from 2001- London 2001 (4th June 2001), Mark Knopfler mix up the lyrics of What it is a bit. He sings parts of the extra verse, which can be found on the Mexican promo single.
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Really! At this concert, William Topley sang in Sailing To Philadelphia
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Really! At this concert, William Topley sang in Sailing To Philadelphia
I was at this concert! I don't really remember much about it - we were a long way from the stage and a pair of binoculars would have been very useful! I do remember William Topley and I think Dorrie Jackson was with him too.
Actually, it wasn't the best experience I have had of an MK concert, mainly because I felt disconnected due to being so far away from the stage and also Mike Henderson was just far too loud, so much so that I could hardly hear MKs guitar at times and I was desperate to hear him!
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Maybe a question for Guy why the longer version only was released on a promo cd and didn’t made the regular StP album.
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The b sides together is great fun to listen.
If they would do that with the bonus tracks from the other albums it would also a great compilation.
Get lucky:
1. Early Bird
2. Time in the sun
3. Pulling Down The Ride
4. Home Boy
5. Good As Gold
Privateering:
6. Occupation blues
7. River of grog
8. Follow the ribbon
9. A perfect song
Tracker
10. .38 Special
11. My Heart Has Never Changed
12. Terminal Of Tribute To
13. Heart Of Oak
15. Time Will End All
16. Oklahoma Ponies
17. Hot Dog
Down the Road wherever:
18. Every Heart in the Room
19. Rear View Mirror
20. Drovers’ Road
21. Don’t Suck Me In
22. Sky And Water
23. Pale Imitation
24. Back in the day (?? Never released only mentioned in the tour book)
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Maybe a question for Guy why the longer version only was released on a promo cd and didn’t made the regular StP album.
Found this on Guy’s forum:
Dear doctor! I just listened to an extended version of What It Is from some kinda Mexican promo. The song had got an extra verse, which is very nice! But, how come it never made it to the album? And.., are there any other verses or parts of lyrics scraped from songs? Thanks!
Yes, it was edited..there were a LOT of verses. So many I lost count. It was cut simply because Mark thought it too long for the record.
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Really! At this concert, William Topley sang in Sailing To Philadelphia
I was at this concert! I don't really remember much about it - we were a long way from the stage and a pair of binoculars would have been very useful! I do remember William Topley and I think Dorrie Jackson was with him too.
Actually, it wasn't the best experience I have had of an MK concert, mainly because I felt disconnected due to being so far away from the stage and also Mike Henderson was just far too loud, so much so that I could hardly hear MKs guitar at times and I was desperate to hear him!
Nice memories superval99 :)
The American concerts were exceptional. A lot of guess.
James Taylor
William Topley
Jackson Browne
Sonny Landreth
Bonnie Raitt
Paul Franklin
Emmylou Harris
Gillian Welch and David Rawlings
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The b sides together is great fun to listen.
If they would do that with the bonus tracks from the other albums it would also a great compilation.
Get lucky:
1. Early Bird
2. Time in the sun
3. Pulling Down The Ride
4. Home Boy
5. Good As Gold
Privateering:
6. Occupation blues
7. River of grog
8. Follow the ribbon
9. A perfect song
Tracker
10. .38 Special
11. My Heart Has Never Changed
12. Terminal Of Tribute To
13. Heart Of Oak
15. Time Will End All
16. Oklahoma Ponies
17. Hot Dog
Down the Road wherever:
18. Every Heart in the Room
19. Rear View Mirror
20. Drovers’ Road
21. Don’t Suck Me In
22. Sky And Water
23. Pale Imitation
24. Back in the day (?? Never released only mentioned in the tour book)
They will not do it because B-Sides boxes have been released since Get Lucky album.
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The b sides together is great fun to listen.
If they would do that with the bonus tracks from the other albums it would also a great compilation.
Get lucky:
1. Early Bird
2. Time in the sun
3. Pulling Down The Ride
4. Home Boy
5. Good As Gold
Privateering:
6. Occupation blues
7. River of grog
8. Follow the ribbon
9. A perfect song
Tracker
10. .38 Special
11. My Heart Has Never Changed
12. Terminal Of Tribute To
13. Heart Of Oak
15. Time Will End All
16. Oklahoma Ponies
17. Hot Dog
Down the Road wherever:
18. Every Heart in the Room
19. Rear View Mirror
20. Drovers’ Road
21. Don’t Suck Me In
22. Sky And Water
23. Pale Imitation
24. Back in the day (?? Never released only mentioned in the tour book)
They will not do it because B-Sides boxes have been released since Get Lucky album.
Yes that's right, apart from 'Back in the day' all those tracks you mention have been released already.....
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Maybe a question for Guy why the longer version only was released on a promo cd and didn’t made the regular StP album.
Found this on Guy’s forum:
Dear doctor! I just listened to an extended version of What It Is from some kinda Mexican promo. The song had got an extra verse, which is very nice! But, how come it never made it to the album? And.., are there any other verses or parts of lyrics scraped from songs? Thanks!
Yes, it was edited..there were a LOT of verses. So many I lost count. It was cut simply because Mark thought it too long for the record.
I read somewhere that WII was at one time going to be a version not dissimilar in length to 'Telegraph Road'!! And again like Guy has put MK deemed it too long and so cut the majority of verses out.....
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Back to What it is and the extra verse on the Mexican release, I'm curious as to why the Mexicans were lucky enough to warrant having the extended version?
Just a mistake by the record company somewhere along the line.
Huge mistake in my books, I know it's only one verse but once you've heard it, the 'standard' album version just isn't the same!!
:thumbsup
Yes, after the extended version I know exactly where they cut the "standard" one. I love the full version so much, never listen to the short one...
No, I hardly listen to the 'shorter' version now either well apart from the Live 'shorter' version.....ooooh I wonder if he ever played the extra verse Live???
In fact, there is a bootleg from 2001- London 2001 (4th June 2001), Mark Knopfler mix up the lyrics of What it is a bit. He sings parts of the extra verse, which can be found on the Mexican promo single.
Oh wow, thanks Bruno....
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Maybe a question for Guy why the longer version only was released on a promo cd and didn’t made the regular StP album.
Found this on Guy’s forum:
Dear doctor! I just listened to an extended version of What It Is from some kinda Mexican promo. The song had got an extra verse, which is very nice! But, how come it never made it to the album? And.., are there any other verses or parts of lyrics scraped from songs? Thanks!
Yes, it was edited..there were a LOT of verses. So many I lost count. It was cut simply because Mark thought it too long for the record.
I read somewhere that WII was at one time going to be a version not dissimilar in length to 'Telegraph Road'!! And again like Guy has put MK deemed it too long and so cut the majority of verses out.....
I would love to read the other verses, even if the whole thing is not released.
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Maybe a question for Guy why the longer version only was released on a promo cd and didn’t made the regular StP album.
Found this on Guy’s forum:
Dear doctor! I just listened to an extended version of What It Is from some kinda Mexican promo. The song had got an extra verse, which is very nice! But, how come it never made it to the album? And.., are there any other verses or parts of lyrics scraped from songs? Thanks!
Yes, it was edited..there were a LOT of verses. So many I lost count. It was cut simply because Mark thought it too long for the record.
I read somewhere that WII was at one time going to be a version not dissimilar in length to 'Telegraph Road'!! And again like Guy has put MK deemed it too long and so cut the majority of verses out.....
I would love to read the other verses, even if the whole thing is not released.
But that's the magic of songwriting. I think you can write as many verses as you wish, you can write 100 verses, but the trouble is in this format you need to stop somewhere. And for this reason I'm not too interested in other verses, if Mark decided to throw it in the bin, I don't want to know it.
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Back to What it is and the extra verse on the Mexican release, I'm curious as to why the Mexicans were lucky enough to warrant having the extended version?
The extra verse actually wasn't only on the Mexican Promo CD. I have an extremely early UK Promo CDr that has the extra verse too !!
Cost me pretty much but it's a mega rarity of course.
Guess it was withdrawn at an early stage too.
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Back to What it is and the extra verse on the Mexican release, I'm curious as to why the Mexicans were lucky enough to warrant having the extended version?
The extra verse actually wasn't only on the Mexican Promo CD. I have an extremely early UK Promo CDr that has the extra verse too !!
Cost me pretty much but it's a mega rarity of course.
Guess it was withdrawn at an early stage too.
Oooh I wasn't aware of that one...Only the following examples:
*One track single: WII 'Radio Edit'
*Two track single: WII 'Radio Edit' and 'Album version'
*Three track single: WII, The Long Highway & Lets see you
*Four track Single: WII, Long Highway, Lets see you & Camerado
and of course the Mexican edition with the extra verse....
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I'm not audiophile. I don't have the best equipment. But I can hear the difference and remastered discs sound more beautiful. It's a great pleasure :)
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I'm not audiophile. I don't have the best equipment. But I can hear the difference and remastered discs sound more beautiful. It's a great pleasure :)
CD or vinyl?
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I opted for the CD box. I have DS vinyls that I collected for covers only.
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my thoughts (in french) about rhe CD box I recieved last friday :
https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/le-coffret-des-5-premiers-albums-studios-de-mark-knopfler-est-arrive/
summary :
- good sound (listened with headphoines and compared with 'old' CD versions) but nothing exceptionnal
- summer of love is the 'short' version while they released a 'long' version on the official YT channel
- shame that WII is not the extended version
- shame that STP is not the 'extended' version'(few more bars in the end solo) like the one released on the private investiagtions comp
- not exceptionnal packaging, but nice though
- 'error' on My claim to fame credits, as Julio nailed it
- B sides not in the chronological order
- and of course shame that it doesn't have bonus material (alternate takes, demos, etc..) but not a surprise knowing Mark ;D
my conclusion : it could have been far more more more and more better in terms of content, but Mark is Mark, and we have to take him like he is ;D
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Exactly! Summer Of Love. Why didn't they give 3.44 :think
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Interesting notes with regards the CD box set, thanks JF...
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my thoughts (in french) about rhe CD box I recieved last friday :
https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/le-coffret-des-5-premiers-albums-studios-de-mark-knopfler-est-arrive/
summary :
- good sound (listened with headphoines and compared with 'old' CD versions) but nothing exceptionnal
- summer of love is the 'short' version while they released a 'long' version on the official YT channel
- shame that WII is not the extended version
- shame that STP is not the 'extended' version'(few more bars in the end solo) like the one released on the private investiagtions comp
- not exceptionnal packaging, but nice though
- 'error' on My claim to fame credits, as Julio nailed it
- B sides not in the chronological order
- and of course shame that it doesn't have bonus material (alternate takes, demos, etc..) but not a surprise knowing Mark ;D
my conclusion : it could have been far more more more and more better in terms of content, but Mark is Mark, and we have to take him like he is ;D
Indeed, neither the longer Darling Pretty..! :think
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Counter argument: these are the original albums, as “god” intended…
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my thoughts (in french) about rhe CD box I recieved last friday :
https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/le-coffret-des-5-premiers-albums-studios-de-mark-knopfler-est-arrive/
summary :
- good sound (listened with headphoines and compared with 'old' CD versions) but nothing exceptionnal
- summer of love is the 'short' version while they released a 'long' version on the official YT channel
- shame that WII is not the extended version
- shame that STP is not the 'extended' version'(few more bars in the end solo) like the one released on the private investiagtions comp
- not exceptionnal packaging, but nice though
- 'error' on My claim to fame credits, as Julio nailed it
- B sides not in the chronological order
- and of course shame that it doesn't have bonus material (alternate takes, demos, etc..) but not a surprise knowing Mark ;D
my conclusion : it could have been far more more more and more better in terms of content, but Mark is Mark, and we have to take him like he is ;D
Indeed, neither the longer Darling Pretty..! :think
Oh dear, It does seem as if we've been 'short changed' somewhat.....
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my thoughts (in french) about rhe CD box I recieved last friday :
https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/le-coffret-des-5-premiers-albums-studios-de-mark-knopfler-est-arrive/
summary :
- good sound (listened with headphoines and compared with 'old' CD versions) but nothing exceptionnal
- summer of love is the 'short' version while they released a 'long' version on the official YT channel
- shame that WII is not the extended version
- shame that STP is not the 'extended' version'(few more bars in the end solo) like the one released on the private investiagtions comp
- not exceptionnal packaging, but nice though
- 'error' on My claim to fame credits, as Julio nailed it
- B sides not in the chronological order
- and of course shame that it doesn't have bonus material (alternate takes, demos, etc..) but not a surprise knowing Mark ;D
my conclusion : it could have been far more more more and more better in terms of content, but Mark is Mark, and we have to take him like he is ;D
Indeed, neither the longer Darling Pretty..! :think
Oh dear, It does seem as if we've been 'short changed' somewhat.....
Of course! ;D No we have various versions of wii, stp, dp, we can just pick the one we’d like to hear.
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I am currently listening to the STP album and its sounds very good imho
I think I heard some little details I never paid attention before, and this is the MK album I have listened to the most
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I am currently listening to the STP album and its sounds very good imho
I think I heard some little details I never paid attention before, and this is the MK album I have listened to the most
Oh JF, you are spoiling us! Personally I've well over two months before experiencing the new Vinyl....... :-\
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my thoughts (in french) about rhe CD box I recieved last friday :
https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/le-coffret-des-5-premiers-albums-studios-de-mark-knopfler-est-arrive/
summary :
- good sound (listened with headphoines and compared with 'old' CD versions) but nothing exceptionnal
- summer of love is the 'short' version while they released a 'long' version on the official YT channel
- shame that WII is not the extended version
- shame that STP is not the 'extended' version'(few more bars in the end solo) like the one released on the private investiagtions comp
- not exceptionnal packaging, but nice though
- 'error' on My claim to fame credits, as Julio nailed it
- B sides not in the chronological order
- and of course shame that it doesn't have bonus material (alternate takes, demos, etc..) but not a surprise knowing Mark ;D
my conclusion : it could have been far more more more and more better in terms of content, but Mark is Mark, and we have to take him like he is ;D
Indeed, neither the longer Darling Pretty..! :think
Oh dear, It does seem as if we've been 'short changed' somewhat.....
Of course! ;D No we have various versions of wii, stp, dp, we can just pick the one we’d like to hear.
Agreed, we can listen to various editions of the above quoted songs but when we are spending a good wedge of cash on a product we want value as in at least the album length tracks....
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Some news about the Vinyl-BOX-Set from Mark.
I have received it some days ago and the big cardboard-box looks proper with a relief printed writing on front. The records itselfs are Double-LP-Cover, exept KTGC-Album. Nice to have the B-Sides on a seperate LP and the Cover-Art-Prints are also pretty nice. I got big eyes as i have read the following inscription on the back-covers of each record: Manufactured in Czech. That means GZ-Media Pressing-plant and in the past, vinyls from that pressing plant are very bad manufactured, most of them are warped, with dust and dirt in the innersleeves. Some copies had very thin grey lines on the vinyl-surface, wich caused background-crackling, BUT not the Knopfler-BOX-Set.
It is very well manufactured, each LP is flat, no background-crackling, no warps or other hidden faults. Well done GZ-Media. The records have a very good soundquality. :thumbsup
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Some news about the Vinyl-BOX-Set from Mark.
I have received it some days ago and the big cardboard-box looks proper with a relief printed writing on front. The records itselfs are Double-LP-Cover, exept KTGC-Album. Nice to have the B-Sides on a seperate LP and the Cover-Art-Prints are also pretty nice. I got big eyes as i have read the following inscription on the back-covers of each record: Manufactured in Czech. That means GZ-Media Pressing-plant and in the past, vinyls from that pressing plant are very bad manufactured, most of them are warped, with dust and dirt in the innersleeves. Some copies had very thin grey lines on the vinyl-surface, wich caused background-crackling, BUT not the Knopfler-BOX-Set.
It is very well manufactured, each LP is flat, no background-crackling, no warps or other hidden faults. Well done GZ-Media. The records have a very good soundquality. :thumbsup
Seems you got lucky, that's good.
I'm really hoping mine are OK, some people on the Steve Hoffman forum said they sent them back because they were bad.
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Some news about the Vinyl-BOX-Set from Mark.
I have received it some days ago and the big cardboard-box looks proper with a relief printed writing on front. The records itselfs are Double-LP-Cover, exept KTGC-Album. Nice to have the B-Sides on a seperate LP and the Cover-Art-Prints are also pretty nice. I got big eyes as i have read the following inscription on the back-covers of each record: Manufactured in Czech. That means GZ-Media Pressing-plant and in the past, vinyls from that pressing plant are very bad manufactured, most of them are warped, with dust and dirt in the innersleeves. Some copies had very thin grey lines on the vinyl-surface, wich caused background-crackling, BUT not the Knopfler-BOX-Set.
It is very well manufactured, each LP is flat, no background-crackling, no warps or other hidden faults. Well done GZ-Media. The records have a very good soundquality. :thumbsup
Seems you got lucky, that's good.
I'm really hoping mine are OK, some people on the Steve Hoffman forum said they sent them back because they were bad.
Just out of curiosity, does it mean that some are good and some aren't? I'm not an expert in disc manufacturing but why and how would there be differences ? :hmm
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Well they will be made in different batches on different days etc.
One guy on Steve Hoffman said he had to mix and match from two sets before he got a complete set he was happy with.
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Well they will be made in different batches on different days etc.
One guy on Steve Hoffman said he had to mix and match from two sets before he got a complete set he was happy with.
It's weird that depending on the box that you receive, you won't get the same material. Sounds a bit unprofessional, especially when you consider Mark's quality standards.
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Well they will be made in different batches on different days etc.
One guy on Steve Hoffman said he had to mix and match from two sets before he got a complete set he was happy with.
It's weird that depending on the box that you receive, you won't get the same material. Sounds a bit unprofessional, especially when you consider Mark's quality standards.
I don't think he cares about any of this stuff, you get the impression he doesn't even know what song are on an album sometimes, like he just finishes the songs, sends them to the record company and forgets them.
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Well, he should care if the final product on the listener side differs in quality to what he produced.
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Well, he should care if the final product on the listener side differs in quality to what he produced.
That is not his concern, some people are paid to look after that.
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He should at least get pissed off about it.
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Well, he has said, after he has recorded the song, it goes of and has it's own life.
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He should at least get pissed off about it.
Probably if he is made aware about the problem.
My guess is Mark had near zero involment in that product but an Universal Music project to cash in.
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Just received my separate GH vinyl! ;D Glad someone took the effort to take a damaged box apart. :clap
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I've listened to it all now except the B-sides.
The pressing quality seems fine, I've had better but it's OK.
The actual sound quality seems to get better as the set goes on - maybe GH and STP were never recorded with vinyl in mind so that's why it doesn't sound quite right.
It's made me re-evaluate Kill to Get Crimson, it's better than I previously judged. And I think it works as a "whole album" more than any of the others. It has it's own sound.
BTW, it comes with a code to download it all in WAV.
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I've listened to it all now except the B-sides.
The pressing quality seems fine, I've had better but it's OK.
The actual sound quality seems to get better as the set goes on - maybe GH and STP were never recorded with vinyl in mind so that's why it doesn't sound quite right.
It's made me re-evaluate Kill to Get Crimson, it's better than I previously judged. And I think it works as a "whole album" more than any of the others. It has it's own sound.
BTW, it comes with a code to download it all in WAV.
It's most probably that like you say GH & StP were never meant for Vinyl so that's probably why they don't sound right - I will find out for myself in 11 days!!!!
Kill to get Crimson has always been good on Vinyl personally but I'm of course looking forward to listening to the collection next week!!!!
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Just received my separate GH vinyl! ;D Glad someone took the effort to take a damaged box apart. :clap
Excellent - Enjoy......
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Happy Knopflermas!!!!!!
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Happy Knopflermas!!!!!!
Enjoy!
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Thank you- cannot wait!!!
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:thumbsup :)
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Yeah, that Box is fine. All records are well pressed and very goodsounding. That´s my current experience with it on my hi-fi-systems. Also nice are the record-cover-artprints with embossed print.
Well done GZ-Media. GZ-Media is getting better and better in the present days. In the past they produced many faulty records, but, the company had learnt to produce pristine records, now. GZ-Media was in negative criticism in the past by the vinyl-collectors community. The BOX-Set is worth to own it. :thumbsup
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Too bloomin right the box set is great! I'm really thrilled with it....
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Well that's GH listened to and although this album was never meant to be on Vinyl I'm so thrilled to have it on Vinyl. From the opening phrase of 'Darling Pretty' which brought tears to my eyes to the fading solo notes from MK on 'Are we in trouble now' it's been a listening sensation. I maybe right in thinking I'm hearing certain instrument parts you cannot distinguish on the CD or digital copies? Dusty? All in all the MK Solo Album box set 1996-2007 journey has well and truly begun and I'm loving it!
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Can someone explain me what "an album made for vinyl" means :hmm
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When you are making music you give a great deal of thought about the medium that it will be heard on.
For example, in the early to late60s, The Beatles would have concerned themselves with how their music would sound on a mono record.
By 1996 MK and his associates would assume that most people would hear on CD, and they would be correct, and they would master their music accordingly.
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When you are making music you give a great deal of thought about the medium that it will be heard on.
For example, in the early to late60s, The Beatles would have concerned themselves with how their music would sound on a mono record.
By 1996 MK and his associates would assume that most people would hear on CD, and they would be correct, and they would master their music accordingly.
Yes, quite agree! Take for example The Shadows they recorded their early 60 records in Mono same as like say The Beatles as Dusty has mentioned. To the present day and with recording equipment having moved on as it were we can safely say that recording an album such as DTRW can be used on all sources - Vinyl, CD & Download
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When you are making music you give a great deal of thought about the medium that it will be heard on.
For example, in the early to late60s, The Beatles would have concerned themselves with how their music would sound on a mono record.
By 1996 MK and his associates would assume that most people would hear on CD, and they would be correct, and they would master their music accordingly.
Of course from the early 00s Vinyl started to make a comeback thus RD was the first MK solo Vinyl record....albeit limited edition
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I only bought a CD set and I can hear the difference too. Everything sounds great :)
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I only bought a CD set and I can hear the difference too. Everything sounds great :)
That's good. The downloads which came with the Vinyl box set (via a code) are really good too...
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Just thought it right to mention a nice piece of customer services from MarkKnopfler.com. When I received my LP box set from them I was relieved to find that my box and albums were, on the whole, undamaged, well pressed and sounding very good.
However I have say 'on the whole' as an otherwise great set was spoilt by two deep and parallel gouges on one side of Shangri-la rendering it unplayable. Whilst it was clearly a manufacturing fault rather than theirs, I immediately reported it to MarkKnopfler.com. They asked me to leave the issue with them which I did. It took a little while for them to find a solution but to their credit they persevered and a few days ago forwarded me a new replacement album. All through communication was friendly, polite and helpful.
All to often folks are (rightly) quick to complain of when they get bad service from retailers, but not always to praise when it's good. So, just wanted to say that MarkKnopfler.com did right by me and I'm chuffed. I also now have the full box set that I originally wanted :) Thanks guys!
I have no other connections with MarkKnopfler.com by the way, just very happy with their service on this occasion.
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Good to hear!
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Yes, that's a good story, though it's a testament to how fragile this medium is. I can't imagine shipping an LP record if that's not in a bulletproof case. Don't want to start a (yet another) war on formats here, just thinking... You can damage it in production, you can damage it while shipping, then again you damage it every time you listen to it, you can't store it wherever you want. Too much hussle for me.
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The flip side is, I have lots or records from the 1950s which are in mint condition and sound great :)
Where will downloads be in 70s years time? ;)
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The flip side is, I have lots or records from the 1950s which are in mint condition and sound great :)
Where will downloads be in 70s years time? ;)
Lost after HD crashed!
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The flip side is, I have lots or records from the 1950s which are in mint condition and sound great :)
Where will downloads be in 70s years time? ;)
Lost after HD crashed!
It's really funny, I actually still possess some of the ancient mp3s and WAVs from my childhood, files which travelled from many computers and hard drives. To me, it evokes the same emotions. I mean meeting the old files, even though it's technically just ones and zeroes. By the way, I'm happy to be born exactly at the time when cassettes were still popular in my childhood, I played a lot of cassettes, and I played a lot of vinyl actually, I listened to a lot of radio, and when a lot of CDs, to the point where last time I played anything of those was more than 10 years ago... In my university of film and television, we even edited some movies on old-school editing machines, where you cut the tape with the blade, and then re-attach it with some Scotch tape, it was awesome! All analogue.
Every medium is great and I love it. As long as there is some good stuff on it, I'm in!
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Ha ha, vinyl is certainly a flawed medium, but when when it is right then it is hard to beat. I don’t knock any medium as they all have pros and cons, while at the same time giving pleasure. I also have MKs music on CD but it does lend itself to vinyl, so that’s reserved for when I’ve got time to to relax back and listen properly.
I’ve always found that wear isn’t really a problem with good and well set-up playback equipment. I have albums that I bought in the 1980’s that still sound wonderful, and take heart in having my grandfathers Edison wax cylinders that still play on the phonograph at over 100 years and will never need a software upgrade!
I’d better shut up before this goes really off-thread ;D
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Hello Harry. Yes you are right with your opinion in vintage vinyl records. :thumbsup
I also own thausands of vinyls-, LP-Albums, Singles, Maxi-Singles, 78-rpm-records from 1896 upwards, and some Edison-cylinders, too. It is also very thrilling to me, to play such old records, which are more than 100 years old.
The old mono-records by The Shadows, are brilliant produced and they are sounding excellent on todays hi-fi-systems. From the 1950s on the vinyl-record-technology was on an high level.
But back to the MK and DS Vinyl-stuff. I own the vintage DS records in various versions, UK, Germany, USA, Japan and some exotic countries. But that is another obsession by myself and for my private collection.
The rate of mistakes in producing a vinyl-record was very high in the past by GZ-Media pressing-plant. The records were faulty produced, with some mistakes, like warps, scratches, bad centered records and so on. But today, they have learned from the past, and the rate of production-mistakes is getting lower. To my opinion the records from the 1950- 1980 are most well produced ones.
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Sometimes is good wait to buy with a release. Today I bought the CD box for less then 20 euros. Nice add to my collection. Hopefully I also be so lucky with the price of the second Studio box set
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CDs tend to drop in price, until they go out of print, then they rise again…
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It's a pity they didn't think about the Mexican version of What It Is.
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Maybe one day DS box. Plus a collection of studio b-sides, plus live :)
Sultans Of Swing - french edition single. Studio version of Sultans of swing which is different from the version that can be found on the abum Dire Straits.
Eastbound Train live
Real Girl live
Me And My Friends live
Making Movies live
What's The Matter Baby? live
Twisting By The Pool
Two Young Lovers
If I Had You
Posters, Badges, Stickers And T-Shirts
Think I Love You Too Much live
Millionaire Blues
Kingdom Come
There would be a lucky thirteen. But I know my dreams are too ambitious :)
ps. I also remember about Private Dancer :)
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Maybe one day DS box. Plus a collection of studio b-sides, plus live :)
Sultans Of Swing - french edition single. Studio version of Sultans of swing which is different from the version that can be found on the abum Dire Straits.
Eastbound Train live
Real Girl live
Me And My Friends live
Making Movies live
What's The Matter Baby? live
Twisting By The Pool
Two Young Lovers
If I Had You
Posters, Badges, Stickers And T-Shirts
Think I Love You Too Much live
Millionaire Blues
Kingdom Come
There would be a lucky thirteen. But I know my dreams are too ambitious :)
ps. I also remember about Private Dancer :)
I would prefer studios versions of Real Girl and eastbound train rather than live versions
and all demos would be my graal
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To Robeson and JF.
Yes, very good thoughts. I also dream of a special collection of unreleased studio and live-stuff, compiled as a fine vinyl-box-set. I also like various studio-versions of known songs, like some single, radio-edits, or extended versions of songs, too.
There is an USA-Promotional-12-inch record with three MFN versions included: LP-Version with 7:04min, Single-Edit with 4:28min and edited short version with 4:05min. Something like that, but all included on a box-set. Or tracks like Why Worry (instrumental segment) and others.
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To Robeson and JF.
Yes, very good thoughts. I also dream of a special collection of unreleased studio and live-stuff, compiled as a fine vinyl-box-set. I also like various studio-versions of known songs, like some single, radio-edits, or extended versions of songs, too.
There is an USA-Promotional-12-inch record with three MFN versions included: LP-Version with 7:04min, Single-Edit with 4:28min and edited short version with 4:05min. Something like that, but all included on a box-set. Or tracks like Why Worry (instrumental segment) and others.
to me, the differents edit versions of the same song doesn't bring anything for me.
all I want is the longest edit which includes all the others
for example, on my STP tracklist on my travel player, I put WII mexican version and STP from the PI compilation. Thus, I have the "largest" version of each song, and personnally, I don't see interest to have smaller cut versions.
imho of course :)
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Exactly! The Mexican version of What It Is should be in the box. But who remembers that?
Why Sailing To Philadelphia from PI compilation? Is it longer too? I have to check because I may have forgotten about it
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All my hopes are they release the unreleased stuff before I turn full deaf or even turning into meat for the worms.
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That's true. Sailing To Philadelphia 5.23
From Private Investigations compilation 5.50
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Exactly! The Mexican version of What It Is should be in the box. But who remembers that?
Why Sailing To Philadelphia from PI compilation? Is it longer too? I have to check because I may have forgotten about it
STP is indeed longer, Darling Pretty too btw, still the best sounding version so far (the one on PI compilation).
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Exactly! The Mexican version of What It Is should be in the box. But who remembers that?
Why Sailing To Philadelphia from PI compilation? Is it longer too? I have to check because I may have forgotten about it
STP is indeed longer, Darling Pretty too btw, still the best sounding version so far (the one on PI compilation).
I have both of these but I never listen to them.
So I would exchange these 2 for a longer fade out on "Are We In Trouble Now"
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That's true. Sailing To Philadelphia 5.23
From Private Investigations compilation 5.50
yes few more "quiet" bars in the end solo, before the snare come in
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Currently just £14.95 on UK Amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0997S8J36/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=shtv.uk-21
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Currently just £14.95 on UK Amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0997S8J36/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=shtv.uk-21
That price for Vol. 2 would be great
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Late to the party, I know, but today my Vinyl Studio Album Box 1996-2007 arrived and I am deep into listening to the records and I am utterly enthusiastic about them, especially Golden Heart and Sailing To Philaphelphia are an absolute joy and pleasure to listen to. I read a lot about the bad pressing quality, about scratches on the second side of STP, about an annoying strange sound on Baloney Again, about the Czech Company being bad and and and. So I feared I would be disappointed or so. The Box arrived in new, sealed, perfect package, but the first three albums all had damaged corners (all the same corner) but the box iteself was totally ok. The vinyls also were, thank god.
Maybe it is because I haven't listened to MK for nearly 2 1/2 years now, the first two albums sound SO fresh, so energetic and so crisp. Really great to have them on vinyl. It is a huge improvement.
My old player was getting worse and I finally decided to buy a new player last week and it turns out it was the best thing I could do. Lots of vinyl was spinned the last few days.
Btw, I love the detail they chose for the labels. STP labels especially nice. The icing of the could now really would have been if the first albums also have had made new gatefold covers, but as it was said earlier in this thread, that had meant to create new artwork which was probably to much to ask for.
The second Box by the way has annoying tight sleeves, much worse than the first Box. I imagined Guy or Mark himself fiddling around with trying to get those Privateering records back in the sleeve and imagined an ice cold Mk stare... But apart from that, both Boxes were really a good choice. Both have a Bonus disc which is nice to have.
LE
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El Macho, just wow... should be played in every store to sell record players.. fabulous sound.
LE
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Late to the party, I know, but today my Vinyl Studio Album Box 1996-2007 arrived and I am deep into listening to the records and I am utterly enthusiastic about them, especially Golden Heart and Sailing To Philaphelphia are an absolute joy and pleasure to listen to. I read a lot about the bad pressing quality, about scratches on the second side of STP, about an annoying strange sound on Baloney Again, about the Czech Company being bad and and and. So I feared I would be disappointed or so. The Box arrived in new, sealed, perfect package, but the first three albums all had damaged corners (all the same corner) but the box iteself was totally ok. The vinyls also were, thank god.
Maybe it is because I haven't listened to MK for nearly 2 1/2 years now, the first two albums sound SO fresh, so energetic and so crisp. Really great to have them on vinyl. It is a huge improvement.
My old player was getting worse and I finally decided to buy a new player last week and it turns out it was the best thing I could do. Lots of vinyl was spinned the last few days.
Btw, I love the detail they chose for the labels. STP labels especially nice. The icing of the could now really would have been if the first albums also have had made new gatefold covers, but as it was said earlier in this thread, that had meant to create new artwork which was probably to much to ask for.
The second Box by the way has annoying tight sleeves, much worse than the first Box. I imagined Guy or Mark himself fiddling around with trying to get those Privateering records back in the sleeve and imagined an ice cold Mk stare... But apart from that, both Boxes were really a good choice. Both have a Bonus disc which is nice to have.
LE
2.5 years without listening to Mark? :o :o :o
It would be like going a week without food for me.
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Well, the more than thirty years before I listened enough DS and MK for more than a lifetime.
LE
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A song like Wanderlust (with that tremolo from Richard, same as on Who's Your Baby Now) really seems to be made for playing on vinyl. Funny that back in those days around 2000/2001 vinyl was literally dead.
2026 will have 25 years STP. Maybe we will get something nice. Imagine the release politics back then would have been the same and we would have got a STP Deluxe Set.
A little voice in me keeps telling me though that the bigger the box, the poorer the music inside. So maybe it's all good as it is and was.
LE
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On Why Aye Man I really can hear the SINGLE background voices on the chorus and differentiate them much better. Acoustics really sound like they are played right before me.
Being three weeks in the US in a rented studio seemed to suit MK's music much better than hanging around at BG for years with Guy alone and .... smell tape..
LE
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Well, the more than thirty years before I listened enough DS and MK for more than a lifetime.
LE
That's quite funny. I meet quite a few MK&DS fans now and then and always get astonished by their determination to this music, their knowledge of all the lyrics and generally the ability to listen to it every day, all the time. It seems like I'm a get-a-lifer, but in reality, I barely listen to Mark's music, though I listened to it quite a lot when I was a kid, but still, in the big picture it was just another music I loved. But the fact that I spent an unhealthy amount of time listening to all sorts of music and still regard Mark as one of the best is a testament to his amazing songwriting and work ethic I think. I can't help but return to this music simply because it's great.
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On Why Aye Man I really can hear the SINGLE background voices on the chorus and differentiate them much better. Acoustics really sound like they are played right before me.
Being three weeks in the US in a rented studio seemed to suit MK's music much better than hanging around at BG for years with Guy alone and .... smell tape..
LE
I had the same thoughts.many times.
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"But the fact that I spent an unhealthy amount of time listening to all sorts of music and still regard Mark as one of the best is a testament to his amazing songwriting and work ethic I think. I can't help but return to this music simply because it's great"
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I have the same. I listen to a lot of music, very diverse, but I always come back to DS/MK with the same pleasure every day. There's something about MK's music! I can't name it.