A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Banjo99uk on November 28, 2022, 07:27:12 PM
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This looks interesting, apparently it includes some rare recordings from BIA tour.
https://legendsseries.direstraits.com/
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Another toy guitar for the bargain price of £247.50.
Absolute fucking tat.
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Another toy guitar for the bargain price of £247.50.
Absolute fucking tat.
so it’s not on your Christmas list then. I was more interested in the BIA tour recordings.
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So, the first official publication of live recording from the BIA tour will be in mp3 as a bonus.
And with Mark approval.
Sad.
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So, the first official publication of live recording from the BIA tour will be in mp3 as a bonus.
And with Mark approval.
Sad.
Not even that. 32GB ‘Brothers In Arms’ engraved USB key, which includes ‘Best Of’ recordings from past Mark Knopfler tours: [list to come][/list]
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So, the first official publication of live recording from the BIA tour will be in mp3 as a bonus.
And with Mark approval.
Sad.
Not even that.
32GB ‘Brothers In Arms’ engraved USB key, which includes ‘Best Of’ recordings from past Mark Knopfler tours: [list to come]
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The link says:
32GB ‘Brothers In Arms’ engraved USB key, which includes ‘Best Of’ recordings from the Brothers In Arms tour.
RARE PERFORMANCES, CURATED FOR YOU
Mark Knopfler’s career is studded with moments of musical magic that fans the world over can’t help but put on repeat. Now, with Mark’s exclusive approval, The Legends Series is providing access to the most intimate, the most memorable and the most coveted performances of his solo career.
This unique 32GB engraved USB key will arrive pre-loaded with ‘Best Of’ recordings in MP3 format from the 1985/86 Brothers In Arms world tour. You’ll also receive downloads of your choice of five shows from the MarkKnopfler.com tour archive.
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I now see, the Dire Straits store and the Mark Knopfler store have different versions of it :think
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A bargain at twice the price :disbelief
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Are they kidding with that price ?!!! :o
And we don't even know which shows !
If it's to get yet another version of Wembley '85 or Sydney '86 ... ::)
Let's have rarities for a change :
How about MK and JJ Cale - Sweetwater Cafe, San Francisco ?
We all know it was recorded ...
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The positive thing is that the curated tracks form the BIA Tour will eventually turn up on YouTube.
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This is taking the piss. Seriously. Fans have been asking, nay, begging, for official recordings from that tour since forever, and when they finally become available, they're in mp3 format on a USB stick plus you have to buy a 250 GBP toy guitar to get them. Mark and his mysterious ways. I am excited that this is actually happening, but the format and way of distribution are appalling.
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Agree Hunter and Skydiver, the recordings will be on YouTube eventually, but this is ...unbelievable. Yes, I know they want to make money. Then give us something we want, to an affordable price! If you want to make money, you sell what people want. How hard can it be :disbelief It doesn't matter what flowers we (my colleagues) like where I work, we order what people want so we can sell more!
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Agree Hunter and Skydiver, the recordings will be on YouTube eventually, but this is ...unbelievable. Yes, I know they want to make money. Then give us something we want, to an affordable price! If you want to make money, you sell what people want. How hard can it be :disbelief It doesn't matter what flowers we (my colleagues) like where I work, we order what people want so we can sell more!
Unfortunately as this is the second in the series the first must have sold in sufficient numbers.
As his income from album sales and touring seriously declines at least they are now realising what fans want.
Sooner or later full shows will be available to download and it is inevitable deluxe/super deluxe editions will be made.
Unfortunately in MKs world the snail decides the pace.
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I don't think the Les Paul "replica" sold well - as it's 500 pcs. limited edition and still available after all this time.
Also I highly doubt MK in signing each and every weird initiation of the merchandise team (i.e. "vintage" concert posters, t-shirts etc.).
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Another toy guitar for the bargain price of £247.50.
Absolute fucking tat.
so it’s not on your Christmas list then. I was more interested in the BIA tour recordings.
Remains to be seen what recordings they are... even if they are new, £250 is a piss take.
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£247! I thought that was a joke when I opened this thread.
Would love to hear the recordings but not sure thay they understand the priority for most people is paying the heating bill and buying food at the moment.
Cynical extortion if I am being harsh.
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£247! I thought that was a joke when I opened this thread.
Would love to hear the recordings but not sure thay they understand the priority for most people is paying the heating bill and buying food at the moment.
Cynical extortion if I am being harsh.
Seems like MK is perfectly fine with exhuming old relics and returning to the past, just as long as the fans have the wallets for it.
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Whatever the recording is we probably already have it in some form, however I would like it to go on record that this is much appreciated and more in line with what I've been expecting - much better than recycling official albums over and over. However, I can't justify forking out this sort of money.
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Whatever the recording is we probably already have it in some form, however I would like it to go on record that this is much appreciated and more in line with what I've been expecting - much better than recycling official albums over and over. However, I can't justify forking out this sort of money.
Releasing unreleased live recordings - appreciated.
Releasing them in MP3 format - not appreciated.
Bundling them with over priced tat - really not appreciated.
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I wonder if the "BIA tour live recording" is an error or not... :think
I can't believe that they would issue such gem that way.
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Everything about this initiative is an absolute joke.
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I'm really encouraged that at face value archive material is being released.
I'd be keen to understand who has been involved in the process of identifying the masters and working with them; wonder if Guy has been involved. Before that it would just be helpful to know what songs and performances we are talking about.
These tour recordings though must have more value and release appeal than as part of an overpriced fairground arcade novelty set.
They can make this right by releasing the files for download for a reasonable fee. Until then this remains a bad joke.
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I can't believe that they would issue such gem that way.
Really?! Just about everything this organisation does is crazy these days! The last thing they put out made it all the way to physical copies of an album being sold that contained the ending of a recording that was never meant to be heard by the public!
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He does not look back. Oh, wait....
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This wasn't done by MK.
Just approved but it's not it's idea but from the people who run the fan community site, the official sites of MK and DS.
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Exactly as I wrote a few messages before.
It has nothing to with MK and honestly I never felt that MK’s decisions are based on money.
It was never his main driver. PC management and all surroundings - that’s a totally different story.
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Mark has the power of vetoing any unpublished live recording made by Dire Straits.
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Just approved
So MK approved the £250 toy guitar, OK then, good to know.
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Mark has the power of vetoing any unpublished live recording made by Dire Straits.
He has the power to veto anything being sold in his name on his website, so we know he is happy with the £250 toy guitars.
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Actually there are two boxes with the national mini guitar:
One says "Mark Knopfler" and contains a usb with three programs of the Sirious Xfm radio programme titled British Grove.
The other says "DS - BIA" and includes a best of the BIA tour.
So, die hard collectors would have to buy both!
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Whatever the recording is we probably already have it in some form, however I would like it to go on record that this is much appreciated and more in line with what I've been expecting - much better than recycling official albums over and over. However, I can't justify forking out this sort of money.
Releasing unreleased live recordings - appreciated.
Releasing them in MP3 format - not appreciated.
Bundling them with over priced tat - really not appreciated.
:thumbsup
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"...and includes a best of the BIA tour"
Do we know what?
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"...and includes a best of the BIA tour"
Do we know what?
Says so here: https://legendsseries.direstraits.com/
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I read this. I thought they listed the exact concerts.
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Did you guys see this though?
This unique 32GB engraved USB key will arrive pre-loaded with ‘Best Of’ recordings in MP3 format from the 1985/86 Brothers In Arms world tour. You’ll also receive downloads of your choice of five shows from the MarkKnopfler.com tour archive.
I only see MK solo tours on the site. Maybe they eventually will make available DS shows too?
Edit: The formatting on this forum is crazy sometimes, especially when you copy and paste from other sites.
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Did you guys see this though?
This unique 32GB engraved USB key will arrive pre-loaded with ‘Best Of’ recordings in MP3 format from the 1985/86 Brothers In Arms world tour. You’ll also receive downloads of your choice of five shows from the MarkKnopfler.com tour archive.
I only see MK solo tours on the site. Maybe they eventually will make available DS shows too?
That means the downloads are for the currently available MK concerts on their site.
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Another toy guitar for the bargain price of £247.50.
Absolute fucking tat.
I agree what a load of crap!
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Did you guys see this though?
This unique 32GB engraved USB key will arrive pre-loaded with ‘Best Of’ recordings in MP3 format from the 1985/86 Brothers In Arms world tour. You’ll also receive downloads of your choice of five shows from the MarkKnopfler.com tour archive.
I only see MK solo tours on the site. Maybe they eventually will make available DS shows too?
That means the downloads are for the currently available MK concerts on their site.
Seems the most likely interpretation. One may always hope. As is always the case with MK ;D
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However, there is something everyone is getting confused here.
The thing you are buying is the guitar replica. The usb with whatever content is a bonus, not the item you are buying, so the bonus can't be more exclusive than the item, otherwise they would sell it as a main product, not including it as a bonus.
I understand everyone wants to get new stuff, me too, but the price is not for the bonus, but for the guitar.
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However, there is something everyone is getting confused here.
The thing you are buying is the guitar replica. The usb with whatever content is a bonus, not the item you are buying, so the bonus can't be more exclusive than the item, otherwise they would sell it as a main product, not including it as a bonus.
I understand everyone wants to get new stuff, me too, but the price is not for the bonus, but for the guitar.
The price is for the entire package you are buying.
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However, there is something everyone is getting confused here.
The thing you are buying is the guitar replica. The usb with whatever content is a bonus, not the item you are buying, so the bonus can't be more exclusive than the item, otherwise they would sell it as a main product, not including it as a bonus.
I understand everyone wants to get new stuff, me too, but the price is not for the bonus, but for the guitar.
Yes, I think that is clear to everyone. The sad thing is that they do have recordings and are willing to sell them, but to get them you need to buy an expensive replica / toy guitar. In which I have zero – 0 – interest. It's just wrong to treat faithful fans like this.
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First, again, they are not selling the usb with those recordings, they are selling the guitar, and...
No, you don't need to buy the guitar to get them, there will be other way, kind of...
The first mini guitar, the Gibson, it had an usb with compilation of soundboards of all MK tours where the soundbards were available to purchase. Those compilations are on the MK YouTube account so anyone can listen to them without having to buy the guitar because, it was a bonus, not the product.
I guess they would upload videos like those to the official YouTube channel sometime, so just keep stay tuned to their social media as they announce those videos there.
And don't worry, as you are not missing a thing, we all have those recordings!
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Maybe it's a language barrier thing here ...
But we agree: They are not selling the USB stick and the mp3s. They are an added bonus. However, so far the only way of getting those mp3s is to buy the guitar. So, I don't know. It sucks big time any way you look at it.
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Whilst we might have heard the recordings before I am interested in what kind of quality that they will appear in. You would hope that there is a general quality bar threshold that the record company would require to reissue these recordings. Even more interesting if they have somehow accessed master tapes to remix.
These sets spring to mind:
Wembley 85 Soundboard - issued on Westwood One vinyl LPs. Top quality
Houston 85 - again issued through American Radio network LPs, top quality
San Antonio - this seems to rest as a master with Westwood but not issued on LP - recently issued in top quality as a CD bootleg you can get for about £12 from Amazon and before that as the 'Secrets in the Closet' bootleg
Sydney 86 this has been issued as a bootleg, recently on vinyl from a pre-broadcast source.
What would be interesting if there are other shows - some from New York 85, the very early part of the tour or December 1985 that came to fruition. Unlikely but we can live in hope.
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I insist that they are uploading those audio files to the YouTube account, and that all those MP3 are from recordings we already have in better formats so if you don't buy the guitars you are not losing a thing.
Can't understand that feeling and I don't think it's a language barrier thing. Those bonus are not anything that valuable at all by themselves as we all have it already. They are valuable as a bonus for those who buy the guitar, those who don't, are not losing anything that special.
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Maybe it's a language barrier thing here ...
But we agree: They are not selling the USB stick and the mp3s. They are an added bonus. However, so far the only way of getting those mp3s is to buy the guitar. So, I don't know. It sucks big time any way you look at it.
https://legendsseries.direstraits.com/
The word "bonus" is not used at any time.
They are selling a package containing the following for £247.50:
BROTHERS IN ARMS EDITION
Limited-edition 1:4 scale replica National O Resonator guitar, nestled in an embroidered guitar case
32GB ‘Brothers In Arms’ engraved USB key, which includes ‘Best Of’ recordings from the Brothers In Arms tour.
Frameable 3D Brothers In Arms 8″x10″ print
Brothers In Arms Lanyard
Brothers In Arms Laminate
Brothers In Arms Retro Pin
Guitar Display Stand
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Maybe it's a language barrier thing here ...
But we agree: They are not selling the USB stick and the mp3s. They are an added bonus. However, so far the only way of getting those mp3s is to buy the guitar. So, I don't know. It sucks big time any way you look at it.
https://legendsseries.direstraits.com/ (https://legendsseries.direstraits.com/)
The word "bonus" is not used at any time.
They are selling a package containing the following for £247.50:
BROTHERS IN ARMS EDITION
Limited-edition 1:4 scale replica National O Resonator guitar, nestled in an embroidered guitar case
32GB ‘Brothers In Arms’ engraved USB key, which includes ‘Best Of’ recordings from the Brothers In Arms tour.
Frameable 3D Brothers In Arms 8″x10″ print
Brothers In Arms Lanyard
Brothers In Arms Laminate
Brothers In Arms Retro Pin
Guitar Display Stand
OK, not explicitly, but the focus is on the guitar, the main article for sale. The rest I call "case candy". ANYWAYS, I for one am not buying the dog-gone highly-collectible toy guitar to get those mp3s ;D [size=78%] [/size]
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Are they kidding with that price ?!!! :o
And we don't even know which shows !
If it's to get yet another version of Wembley '85 or Sydney '86 ... ::)
Let's have rarities for a change :
How about MK and JJ Cale - Sweetwater Cafe, San Francisco ?
We all know it was recorded ...
now that would be something, BUT, i have been hunting this for years now, was in contact with JJ's manager, to no avail. as far as i was told there was NO recording. so where did you hear this?
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Maybe it's a language barrier thing here ...
But we agree: They are not selling the USB stick and the mp3s. They are an added bonus. However, so far the only way of getting those mp3s is to buy the guitar. So, I don't know. It sucks big time any way you look at it.
what they are releasing is nothing exlusive, we HAVE those recordings in flac in our unlimited project. so for us die hard fans there is not need to buy this.
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also, am i mistaken or did they not get those recordings from the fans ( :-) ) in the first place? so in lossless?
question is to Binone and Jbaent
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Maybe it's a language barrier thing here ...
But we agree: They are not selling the USB stick and the mp3s. They are an added bonus. However, so far the only way of getting those mp3s is to buy the guitar. So, I don't know. It sucks big time any way you look at it.
what they are releasing is nothing exlusive, we HAVE those recordings in flac in our unlimited project. so for us die hard fans there is not need to buy this.
What I am expecting here is, unreleased, soundboard quality recordings from the BIA tour. Do we have these already in Unlimited? Outwith the widely shared Wembley, Sydney, San Antonio etc…
Am I clutching at straws by expecting this?
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The last concert on April 26, 1986 from Sydney would have made me very happy. Same with July 10, 1985 from Wembley Arena. Both were filmed and shown on TV
I want the whole concert, not the best.
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I mean, you can get the whole of the Sydney concert in great quality very easily.
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I mean, you can get the whole of the Sydney concert in great quality very easily.
True, but the original is the original:)
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I mean, you can get the whole of the Sydney concert in great quality very easily.
True, but the original is the original:)
From memory the latest 4K edition by binone on YouTube was sourced from master tapes from the Australian TV company so MK’s people isn’t getting anything better than that.
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Can anyone post a link to Binone’s top notch version please?
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Can anyone post a link to Binone’s top notch version please?
This is the link to that copy. I have to say it comes from a reel tape that was converted to digital with a low bitrate. The audio, for me, is the best existing. The video, upgraded with AI, can show artifacts because of the low bitrate of the transfer made from the original reel tape.
https://youtu.be/OizkvZ2xkpY
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I see GF was unaware of this release and knows nothing about the live recordings from the BIA tour. I wonder if it’s a mistake and it is live recordings from MK’s solo tours.
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I see GF was unaware of this release and knows nothing about the live recordings from the BIA tour. I wonder if it’s a mistake and it is live recordings from MK’s solo tours.
Seems pretty likely it's a mistake, as you say. Guy is pretty up to date on releases and have known about any BIA recordings.
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That's not a release. That's why they don't know about it, at least Guy.
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That's not a release. That's why they don't know about it, at least Guy.
Dude, find yourself another hobby than picking on me. Release schmelease, you know what I was trying to say.
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Mark has a recording contract that covers RELEASE of studio and live performance.
No live recording can be sold to the public without the record company approval neither.
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Dunno what to think about it. I think by this point you should be accustomed to ridiculous pricing in MK's world, I mean the guy seriously was trying to promote a 20K dollar signature guitar that was sold out to collectors before it was even announced. So a bit overpriced toy guitar is not that surprising.
More surprising to me is why not release a new album in a form of a guitar, for instance? I'd buy it. I won't buy boring CDs! When you can put digital files on that USB stick that actually outperform CD in quality, and it's the year 2022.
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Mark has a recording contract that covers RELEASE of studio and live performance.
No live recording can be sold to the public without the record company approval neither.
They are not selling a live recording, they are selling a mini guitar replica. But yes, in order to offer the bonus they need the rights of the content they are giving.
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Hats off to you, that’s SUPERB!! Thank you!!
Can anyone post a link to Binone’s top notch version please?
This is the link to that copy. I have to say it comes from a reel tape that was converted to digital with a low bitrate. The audio, for me, is the best existing. The video, upgraded with AI, can show artifacts because of the low bitrate of the transfer made from the original reel tape.
https://youtu.be/OizkvZ2xkpY
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I have confirmation of whats on the USB stick.
01 Ride across the river
02 Expresso love
03 One world
04 Romeo and Juliet
05 Industrial disease
06 So far away - Calypso
07 Private investigations
08 Sultans of swing
09 Why worry
10 Your latest trick
11 Walk of life
12 The man's too strong
13 Two young lovers
14 Money for nothing
15 Wild west end
16 Tunnel of love
17 Brothers in arms
18 Solid rock - with Nils Lofgren
19 Hank Marvin introduction
20 Going home
Tracks 01-04, 13-16: San Antonio, Majestic Theatre 16th August 1985
Tracks 05-06, 10: Sydney, Entertainment Center 26th April 1986
Track 07-09, 11-12, 17-20: London, Wembley Arena 10th July 1985
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How do you have that confirmation?
Not any guitar had been sent yet so it's literally impossible that anyone has it and can tell you the content.
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How do you have that confirmation?
Not any guitar had been sent yet so it's literally impossible that anyone has it and can tell you the content.
From the official website. I emailed them last week.
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I don't understand a bit. It's a fan initiative, not a label, right? But Mark Knopfler gives the green light because the information is on the official MK website. And those concerts from the BIA tour are also from the fans?
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I don't understand a bit. It's a fan initiative, not a label, right? But Mark Knopfler gives the green light because the information is on the official MK website. And those concerts from the BIA tour are also from the fans?
No.
Those concerts are from the radio and TV stations that broadcasted them originally.
Obviously if the MK fan community can use it they might had bought the rights.
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I'm surprised and glad that Mark allows it so easily.
This is a completely new situation
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I still can't believe that the '85 live recordings doesn't have a proper release from the record company.
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The concerts involved are the ones everyone else predicted a week ago: San Antonio 85, Wembley 85 and Sydney 86.
We've all listened to these a million times. Once again, nothing new here. It's just them trying to milk the cow for easy money. I would rather stick to the great (and free!) version our spanish friends uploaded on Youtube.
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I still can't believe that the '85 live recordings doesn't have a proper release from the record company.
I agree totally. I don't get how the record company doesn't buy the whole Wembley 85 to Channel 4 (I think they own the rights) and do a proper release on Blu-ray and cd of it ...
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I think these releases will come in time; but we still may have to wait a while, and as others have said, we have some great fan resources out there in the meanwhile. However, even if I have the recordings already I would like for them to be released and for MK / DS to have had an input into their releases, so they have an element of authenticity about them, plus everything that comes in a package of that nature (proper photos, liner notes etc. and the best basis of sound quality possible).
There are several outstanding shows which would have wider appeal than just the hardcore fanbase.
If you look at the catalogues of Hendrix and Bob Marley, it took several decades for unreleased material (specifically live concerts) to come forward from their estates. Probably the focus will still be on new MK solo material for the time being, if you get my drift.
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I have no time to wait for the Mk estate doing it, I won't live forever ;D ;D ;D
Even if we know these shows the fact that the record company would be able to get the master recording and give them state of the art mastering would be velcome.
The sort of thing that only a record company is able to do.
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This model-guitar + usb-stick packgage will be more desirable for fans at a much lower price combined with really interesting recordings from BIA-worldtour together. All other mentioned Live in 85 / 86 shows are wellknown to the fan-community, but what about less known shows in much better sound-quality, if it is possible in the near future, like Christchurch 1986 full show in best soundquality, or Split Yugoslavia 1985 (The Kick-off show for BIA-Tour) in best sound. ?? Im of the opinion, there are some other examples for fine live shows 1985 for that USB-Stick offer. :think
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In 1985 in order to record live shows they had to hire a mobile recording unit that was quite expensive. As far as I know they recorded none of the concerts of that tour so the only ones available are the ones that were broadcasted by radio and TV stations, that means they only can use any of those to whatever release.
Even for those TV and radio broadcasts they used mobile stations, but it was the media who paid for it. The Wembley 85 TV broadcast used the Rolling stones mobile!
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In 1985 in order to record live shows they had to hire a mobile recording unit that was quite expensive. As far as I know they recorded none of the concerts of that tour so the only ones available are the ones that were broadcasted by radio and TV stations, that means they only can use any of those to whatever release.
Even for those TV and radio broadcasts they used mobile stations, but it was the media who paid for it. The Wembley 85 TV broadcast used the Rolling stones mobile!
Yes, and it was mixed by the great Bob Clearmountain as well.
One thing that remains unclear about this release is whether these are new transfers from the original sources...or just basically taken from an internet download. :lol
The sad part is I'm sure someone official behind the band name could, with some effort and the right contacts, unearth some never before heard recordings. But they seem to put 0 effort in.
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"never before heard recordings", if they recorded something we don't know, maybe. I never heard or read they recorded anything from that tour by themselves, as they didn't had the intention to release a live album, as they released alchemy just prior to BIA already.
Some of the bootleg editions already used the best sources as possible, which are from the radio and TV stations and I doubt very much that any of the radio and TV have multichannel recordings of everything they had broadcasted along the years so, this is probably the only source for it.
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I am tempted to buy it to get clarification ;)
I wrote the management about the content of songs but never heard a thing. Guess some of you did the same.
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I am tempted to buy it to get clarification ;)
I wrote the management about the content of songs but never heard a thing. Guess some of you did the same.
The info was already posted here, from one post from Banjo and in Guy's site.
It is a mix between San Antonio, Wembley and Sydney better recordings available from pre-fm sources.
01 Ride across the river
02 Expresso love
03 One world
04 Romeo and Juliet
05 Industrial disease
06 So far away - Calypso
07 Private investigations
08 Sultans of swing
09 Why worry
10 Your latest trick
11 Walk of life
12 The man's too strong
13 Two young lovers
14 Money for nothing
15 Wild west end
16 Tunnel of love
17 Brothers in arms
18 Solid rock - with Nils Lofgren
19 Hank Marvin introduction
20 Going home
Tracks 01-04, 13-16: San Antonio, Majestic Theatre 16th August 1985
Tracks 05-06, 10: Sydney, Entertainment Center 26th April 1986
Track 07-09, 11-12, 17-20: London, Wembley Arena 10th July 1985
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I am tempted to buy it to get clarification ;)
I wrote the management about the content of songs but never heard a thing. Guess some of you did the same.
The info was already posted here, from one post from Banjo and in Guy's site.
It is a mix between San Antonio, Wembley and Sydney better recordings available from pre-fm sources.
01 Ride across the river
02 Expresso love
03 One world
04 Romeo and Juliet
05 Industrial disease
06 So far away - Calypso
07 Private investigations
08 Sultans of swing
09 Why worry
10 Your latest trick
11 Walk of life
12 The man's too strong
13 Two young lovers
14 Money for nothing
15 Wild west end
16 Tunnel of love
17 Brothers in arms
18 Solid rock - with Nils Lofgren
19 Hank Marvin introduction
20 Going home
Tracks 01-04, 13-16: San Antonio, Majestic Theatre 16th August 1985
Tracks 05-06, 10: Sydney, Entertainment Center 26th April 1986
Track 07-09, 11-12, 17-20: London, Wembley Arena 10th July 1985
Thanks jbaent
When you say better, does that mean that this release probably includes better versions than we already got ?
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Modern music technology allows for the perfect separation of any sound from even the most basic of sources. Look at some of the beatles remasters for an example. Drums, guitar, bass, etc, all on single mono tracks separated back into multi track. With some time and effort on
MKs management's part (yes I know!) The original tapes from Sydney etc could be restored back to miltitrack. Its expensive and time consuming but this is what they should do, but we all know they wont!
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Are they kidding with that price ?!!! :o
And we don't even know which shows !
If it's to get yet another version of Wembley '85 or Sydney '86 ... ::)
Let's have rarities for a change :
How about MK and JJ Cale - Sweetwater Cafe, San Francisco ?
We all know it was recorded ...
now that would be something, BUT, i have been hunting this for years now, was in contact with JJ's manager, to no avail. as far as i was told there was NO recording. so where did you hear this?
From JJ Cale himself. He said so in an old interview.
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Has anyone heard the mp3 recordings yet? If so, can you give us a review on sound quality / contrast with bootleg releases please ?
Thanks
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They are very well mixed between considering they come from different concerts, it flows naturally like one concert. Sound is excellent.
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It has light when you plug it!
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So are these examples from an - until now - unreleased source? Are they better sounding than what we are used to already?
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There are different sources for these concerts, i didn't compared with all of them and the files doesn't mention the source.
They sound excellent but, again, this is a bonus, the item is the mini guitar replica. The content of the bonus is not what matters really.
That's your opinion, others take a different view. Frankly I see a lot more questions from people about the music than the model, suggesting the music matters more to a lot of people.
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Yeah, and others have a different opinion.
If the extra stuff wasn't a factor before people decided to purchase, it wouldn't be included.
These are companies selling these things, and companies are interested in profit. Any additional items increase cost which means less profit. If they thought people would buy anyway without the extra stuff it wouldn't be included.
You are paying for the entire package, not just the guitar.
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At any rate it is a sh*tty way to treat fans. If indeed these recordings, although being well-known to the fan community, have been professionally processed and now have a lot better quality, fans should be able to get hold of them without having to buy expensive trinkets.
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At any rate it is a sh*tty way to treat fans. If indeed these recordings, although being well-known to the fan community, have been professionally processed and now have a lot better quality, fans should be able to get hold of them without having to buy expensive trinkets.
They have not been professionailly processed in a "studio recording from a record company" like any official release would be treated, so you are not losing nothing. It sounds excellent, as probably sounds the best sources of Sydney, Wembley and San Antonio we already have, maybe slighlty better but not that noticiable at all.
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Yeah, and others have a different opinion.
If the extra stuff wasn't a factor before people decided to purchase, it wouldn't be included.
These are companies selling these things, and companies are interested in profit. Any additional items increase cost which means less profit. If they thought people would buy anyway without the extra stuff it wouldn't be included.
You are paying for the entire package, not just the guitar.
You can count me in with you on that take.
Lets make a poll.
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Yeah, and others have a different opinion.
If the extra stuff wasn't a factor before people decided to purchase, it wouldn't be included.
These are companies selling these things, and companies are interested in profit. Any additional items increase cost which means less profit. If they thought people would buy anyway without the extra stuff it wouldn't be included.
You are paying for the entire package, not just the guitar.
You can count me in with you on that take.
Lets make a poll.
Let's not, nobody really cares, and Julio is the only one persisting with this take :)
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Yeah, and others have a different opinion.
If the extra stuff wasn't a factor before people decided to purchase, it wouldn't be included.
These are companies selling these things, and companies are interested in profit. Any additional items increase cost which means less profit. If they thought people would buy anyway without the extra stuff it wouldn't be included.
You are paying for the entire package, not just the guitar.
You can count me in with you on that take.
Lets make a poll.
Let's not, nobody really cares, and Julio is the only one persisting with this take :)
You never left a chance to make clear you are right, don't you?
Ok, waiting for the next one.
Never said I was right, just giving my OPINION that there was no need for a poll because you are the only person taking that view. But anyone is free to create a poll, knock yourselves out...
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I think actually I, for one – and for once – share Julio's view.
But, please, no poll. Let's settle this like men in 2022: By bickering on the internet.
;D
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The model guitar is over priced tat so the only thing of interest here are the recordings.
They could make £15 a download with each show so they would easily make more from those than the guitar.
I'm amazed that MK/DS management are leaving so much money on the table-crazy business sense!
Instead of the recordings the fans get another two fingers(MK is old school) for Christmas :disbelief
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I think actually I, for one – and for once – share Julio's view.
But, please, no poll. Let's settle this like men in 2022: By bickering on the internet.
;D
Ha! ;D
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The model guitar is over priced tat so the only thing of interest here are the recordings.
They could make £15 a download with each show so they would easily make more from those than the guitar.
I'm amazed that MK/DS management are leaving so much money on the table-crazy business sense!
Instead of the recordings the fans get another two fingers(MK is old school) for Christmas :disbelief
Agree on the downloads. Actually I think that's the product they should go for, but guess their hands are tied.
In what way?
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The model guitar is over priced tat so the only thing of interest here are the recordings.
They could make £15 a download with each show so they would easily make more from those than the guitar.
I'm amazed that MK/DS management are leaving so much money on the table-crazy business sense!
Instead of the recordings the fans get another two fingers(MK is old school) for Christmas :disbelief
Agree on the downloads. Actually I think that's the product they should go for, but guess their hands are tied.
In what way?
That they need from MK side provide them with the recordings and, you know, MK only looks forward.
Except they don’t,they have the recordings, in fact they just released them officially.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/574/takemymoney.jpg)
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If anyone still wants to buy the toy guitar they have reduced the price to "only" *checks notes*... £247.50, I guess they overestimated demand for this limited edition product.
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If anyone still wants to buy the toy guitar they have reduced the price to "only" *checks notes*... £247.50, I guess they overestimated demand for this limited edition product.
Yes, this product still perplexes me a lot. I think album releases should look something like this nowadays. I don't want CDs, give me something unique! They should've packed all these box sets, 1996—2007 and 2019—2018, and put it out with this guitar, complete with hi-res 24bit/192kHz audio on a USB-C drive, a bunch of bonuses and whatnot. THAT would sell like ice cream on a hot day. But the music industry is still driven by dinosaurs.