A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: dustyvalentino on January 14, 2023, 10:58:36 AM
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Listen from about 43 mins to find out
https://open.spotify.com/episode/0VYS1O4ck6dkc87Ur0Vz37?si=4lb1TSedS-SNRC0aMCdBRA
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Why not just say rather than point people towards a service which rips off artists?
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Why not just say rather than point people towards a service which rips off artists?
Better question is... Who the hell is Cameron Crowe? :lol
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Why not just say rather than point people towards a service which rips off artists?
Better question is... Who the hell is Cameron Crowe? :lol
I was wondering that too as I've never heard of him before, but at least they acknowledged Local Hero even though they didn't seem to enjoy MK's music! Maybe he's some relation of Russell. ;)
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Wow, that's not very flattering. Why would he do that though? I'd understand if it were a Hollywood blockbuster thing with an enormous budget, but this little movie? Strange.
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Wow, that's not very flattering. Why would he do that though? I'd understand if it were a Hollywood blockbuster thing with an enormous budget, but this little movie? Strange.
Could somebody explain the situation here? I listened to it a couple of times and can't really understand what they were talking about.
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I would like an explanation of this garbled tale too! :hmm
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I would like an explanation of this garbled tale too! :hmm
Basically they badly needed a specific Peter Gabriel song tor a scene in a movie. Allegedly MK gave PG advice to squeeze as much cash as he could out of the film makers give how badly they wanted to use his song. Hence the dislike for all things MK....
Good advice if you ask me!
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Why not just say rather than point people towards a service which rips off artists?
Better question is... Who the hell is Cameron Crowe? :lol
Oscar winning screenwriter/director.
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Why not just say rather than point people towards a service which rips off artists?
As good a storyteller as I am, better to hear it from Mr Crowe himself. And said artists are of course free to remove their content if they so wish.
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I would like an explanation of this garbled tale too! :hmm
Basically they badly needed a specific Peter Gabriel song tor a scene in a movie. Allegedly MK gave PG advice to squeeze as much cash as he could out of the film makers give how badly they wanted to use his song. Hence the dislike for all things MK....
Good advice if you ask me!
Yeah, nothing wrong with that. It's tempting to use non-original songs in movies, video games and whatnot, but it shouldn't be cheap for sure. You wanna use it? YOU PAY!
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I would like an explanation of this garbled tale too! :hmm
Basically they badly needed a specific Peter Gabriel song tor a scene in a movie. Allegedly MK gave PG advice to squeeze as much cash as he could out of the film makers give how badly they wanted to use his song. Hence the dislike for all things MK....
Good advice if you ask me!
Thanks for the explanation. :)
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I would like an explanation of this garbled tale too! :hmm
Basically they badly needed a specific Peter Gabriel song tor a scene in a movie. Allegedly MK gave PG advice to squeeze as much cash as he could out of the film makers give how badly they wanted to use his song. Hence the dislike for all things MK....
Good advice if you ask me!
Yeah, nothing wrong with that. It's tempting to use non-original songs in movies, video games and whatnot, but it shouldn't be cheap for sure. You wanna use it? YOU PAY!
How about that BIA + mini guitar deal? "You want it, YOU PAY!" - the principles of squeezing money out of people don't change just because we're talking about diehard fans :)
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I would like an explanation of this garbled tale too! :hmm
Basically they badly needed a specific Peter Gabriel song tor a scene in a movie. Allegedly MK gave PG advice to squeeze as much cash as he could out of the film makers give how badly they wanted to use his song. Hence the dislike for all things MK....
Good advice if you ask me!
Yeah, nothing wrong with that. It's tempting to use non-original songs in movies, video games and whatnot, but it shouldn't be cheap for sure. You wanna use it? YOU PAY!
Yes, fair price is OK, but it's not like the movie was a Hollywood blockbuster with an enormous budget and it's not like Peter Gabriel was a starving artist who really could use the money. Mark sounds cynical and greedy here, to be honest.
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I would like an explanation of this garbled tale too! :hmm
Basically they badly needed a specific Peter Gabriel song tor a scene in a movie. Allegedly MK gave PG advice to squeeze as much cash as he could out of the film makers give how badly they wanted to use his song. Hence the dislike for all things MK....
Good advice if you ask me!
Yeah, nothing wrong with that. It's tempting to use non-original songs in movies, video games and whatnot, but it shouldn't be cheap for sure. You wanna use it? YOU PAY!
Yes, fair price is OK, but it's not like the movie was a Hollywood blockbuster with an enormous budget and it's not like Peter Gabriel was a starving artist who really could use the money. Mark sounds cynical and greedy here, to be honest.
Sorry but songwriters have been royally screwed since the inception of the corporate music business. Publishing deals for even the top selling artists were notoriously bad. You can hardly blame any songwriter for getting what they can
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I had no idea who Cameron Crowe was until I read this.
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I had no idea who Cameron Crowe was until I read this.
Plenty of people have no idea who Mark Knopfler is. Anyone who knows about films knows Cameron Crowe’s work. He literally wrote the line “show me the money” which has entered into the lexicon!
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I would like an explanation of this garbled tale too! :hmm
Basically they badly needed a specific Peter Gabriel song tor a scene in a movie. Allegedly MK gave PG advice to squeeze as much cash as he could out of the film makers give how badly they wanted to use his song. Hence the dislike for all things MK....
Good advice if you ask me!
Yeah, nothing wrong with that. It's tempting to use non-original songs in movies, video games and whatnot, but it shouldn't be cheap for sure. You wanna use it? YOU PAY!
Yes, fair price is OK, but it's not like the movie was a Hollywood blockbuster with an enormous budget and it's not like Peter Gabriel was a starving artist who really could use the money. Mark sounds cynical and greedy here, to be honest.
As it turned out, the song was used in what ended up being a famous and iconic moment in the film, Uy I don’t think either PG or MK could have predicted this at the time, Cameron Crowe could have just gone and got another cheaper song and MK’s scheme would have backfired.
Anyhoo, apart from being a funny story, the most interesting thing here is that MK and PG were apparently friends.
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were?
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were?
OK, maybe still are/ Point is, this is the only connection I'm aware of other than a photo of them together at the Brit awards:
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0465413/mediaviewer/rm2484156416
(Jealous of MK getting up close and personal with The Bangles!)
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were?
OK, maybe still are/ Point is, this is the only connection I'm aware of other than a photo of them together at the Brit awards:
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0465413/mediaviewer/rm2484156416
(Jealous of MK getting up close and personal with The Bangles!)
Cameron was married to Nancy Wilson(Heart) so he does/did have some taste!
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Cameron Crowe is a famous director with a great past in music, when he was just a child he managed to travel with Led Zeppelin to write about their tour for Rolling Stone, the story is fictionated at his film "Almost famous" which is great.
All his films have music very very well selected, he's a big fan of music with a great taste, and also a very good director.
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Cameron Crowe is a famous director with a great past in music, when he was just a child he managed to travel with Led Zeppelin to write about their tour for Rolling Stone, the story is fictionated at his film "Almost famous" which is great.
All his films have music very very well selected, he's a big fan of music with a great taste, and also a very good director.
But either way, his attitude towards MK is pretty strange, to say the least. I have a pretty unpleasant aftertaste after hearing this story, Mark wasn't THAT bad.
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Cameron Crowe is a famous director with a great past in music, when he was just a child he managed to travel with Led Zeppelin to write about their tour for Rolling Stone, the story is fictionated at his film "Almost famous" which is great.
All his films have music very very well selected, he's a big fan of music with a great taste, and also a very good director.
But either way, his attitude towards MK is pretty strange, to say the least. I have a pretty unpleasant aftertaste after hearing this story, Mark wasn't THAT bad.
He and the hosts were laughing about it and having fun, it's a funny story, don't take it so seriously. :)
By the way, it's a good podcast in general. One of the hosts was basically the first to publish the allegations against R Kelly and followed them through all the way.
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Just found this, CC rates Local Hero as his 4th favourite piece of movie music ever:
https://www.theuncool.com/journalism/cameron-crowes-top-10-or-so-music-moments-in-film/
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Cameron Crowe is a famous director with a great past in music, when he was just a child he managed to travel with Led Zeppelin to write about their tour for Rolling Stone, the story is fictionated at his film "Almost famous" which is great.
All his films have music very very well selected, he's a big fan of music with a great taste, and also a very good director.
Yes, I saw Almost Famous for the first time a couple of years ago and I noticed that there are four or five Led Zeppelin tracks used in the film, which is unusual for them as they rarely allow their songs to be used in movies. I think it's a great film - without wishing to give anything away for those who haven't seen it, it has a poignant story and a wonderful cast (I especially love Philip Seymour Hoffman's turn as Lester Bangs). Another bonus of watching this film is that it drew the rest of my family's attention to several songs I'd loved for years.