A Mark In Time

Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: qjamesfloyd on June 09, 2023, 08:56:21 AM

Title: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: qjamesfloyd on June 09, 2023, 08:56:21 AM
I have mostly been disappointed with people who interview Mark as they stick to the usual questions about Sultans of Swing, Money For Nothing etc, things he has talked about over and over again, so, with the news that Mark has contributed to a new documentary about Wily Deville, I was wondering what else about Mark's life, musical or otherwise have you either never heard him talk about, or heard him rarely talk about, here are a few of mine, minus Wily Deville, who I would have mentioned.

Comfort & Joy soundtrack, music for the Royal Wedding, Sir George Martin, Van Morrison, Cliff Richard, Phil Lynott, Holly Beth Vincent, his Hungarian heritage, the tour with Eric Clapton and Elton John, Randy Newman, Gerry Rafferty, J.J. Cale. His 1st wife, working as a lecturer, Johhny Cash playing The Next Time I'm in Town and adding a verse, Vince Gill, Playing with Paul McCartney.

These are just some things I thought of, there are bound to be more.
Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 09, 2023, 10:32:44 AM
Some of them we have talked about more than others, I seem to recall a fair bit of discission about Holly Beth on here.

I think to be fair MK has not really discussed his Hungarian heritage, unlike, say his Geordie and Scots roots.
Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: qjamesfloyd on June 09, 2023, 11:09:46 AM
I was not referring to us talking about these subjects, I was referring to Mark himself talking about them.
Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: quizzaciously on June 09, 2023, 12:30:18 PM
Some of them we have talked about more than others, I seem to recall a fair bit of discission about Holly Beth on here.

I think to be fair MK has not really discussed his Hungarian heritage, unlike, say his Geordie and Scots roots.

Mark Lawson asked MK about playing in Hungary, and he said it wasn't particularly important to him, but acknowledged the irony that they kicked out his dad and now "make sandwiches" for him. Also, Lawson asked about Jewish roots as well, and Mark said he visited a synagogue 2 times in his life, for his accountant's wedding.
Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 09, 2023, 12:35:51 PM
I was not referring to us talking about these subjects, I was referring to Mark himself talking about them.

Sorry, gotcha.
Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: quizzaciously on June 09, 2023, 12:39:52 PM
I have mostly been disappointed with people who interview Mark as they stick to the usual questions about Sultans of Swing, Money For Nothing etc, things he has talked about over and over again, so, with the news that Mark has contributed to a new documentary about Wily Deville, I was wondering what else about Mark's life, musical or otherwise have you either never heard him talk about, or heard him rarely talk about, here are a few of mine, minus Wily Deville, who I would have mentioned.

Comfort & Joy soundtrack, music for the Royal Wedding, Sir George Martin, Van Morrison, Cliff Richard, Phil Lynott, Holly Beth Vincent, his Hungarian heritage, the tour with Eric Clapton and Elton John, Randy Newman, Gerry Rafferty, J.J. Cale. His 1st wife, working as a lecturer, Johhny Cash playing The Next Time I'm in Town and adding a verse, Vince Gill, Playing with Paul McCartney.

These are just some things I thought of, there are bound to be more.

Great list. Personally, I'm not interested in his private life in the slightest, so Holly Beth Vincent and 1st wife is out of the question, but everything else is pretty cool.

I think Mark's best stories are the ones about working with other musicians, or about his songs. Because he basically met all his heroes, and then some!
Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: Robson on June 09, 2023, 01:03:41 PM
Oh yes! Only songs. This is what interests me the most:)
Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: JF on June 09, 2023, 01:18:31 PM

Personally, I'm not interested in his private life in the slightest, so Holly Beth Vincent and 1st wife is out of the question


it inspired him for writing songs though
Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 09, 2023, 01:51:17 PM
Correct, no Holly Beth, no R&J, and maybe no future for DS.
Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: quizzaciously on June 09, 2023, 02:09:47 PM
Correct, no Holly Beth, no R&J, and maybe no future for DS.

I think Mark can easily diverge the answer to this question to the fact that adverse circumstances could or even should lead to being creative, and how breaking up with somebody can lead to creating songs like Romeo. So I doubt we can get any new information there. The fact is Mark certainly turned being in dire straits into a good life for him.
Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: Robson on June 09, 2023, 04:38:21 PM
Do I remember correctly that Romeo and Juliet has been on every tour since 1980? And then MK solo as well? 

It's a concert classic :)
Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: quizzaciously on June 09, 2023, 04:45:29 PM
Do I remember correctly that Romeo and Juliet has been on every tour since 1980? And then MK solo as well? 

It's a concert classic :)

Yup, I believe it was played more frequently than even Sultans Of Swing. Fan favourite, classic, timeless song, ultimate Knopfler masterpiece.
Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: Robson on June 09, 2023, 04:47:26 PM
Do I remember correctly that Romeo and Juliet has been on every tour since 1980? And then MK solo as well? 

It's a concert classic :)

Yup, I believe it was played more frequently than even Sultans Of Swing. Fan favourite, classic, timeless song, ultimate Knopfler masterpiece.

 :thumbsup Exactly !
Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: JF on June 09, 2023, 05:40:28 PM
yes indeed, Romeo & Juliet was played more than Sultans, because it was played in 2006 and 2019 when Sultans wasn't played, and also in all gigs in 2013, while Sultans was sometimes ommissed
of course Sultans was played during 2 years before Romeo, but I don't think it was enough to reach the amount of times Romeo was played

Romeo wasn't played only during NHB tours and Bob Dylan tours

https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/une-chanson-a-la-loupe-romeo-and-juliet-de-dire-straits/#Les_versions_live
Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: Jules on June 10, 2023, 12:06:44 PM
Do I remember correctly that Romeo and Juliet has been on every tour since 1980? And then MK solo as well? 

It's a concert classic :)

Yeah, the pee break!
Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: dmg on June 10, 2023, 12:18:45 PM
Do I remember correctly that Romeo and Juliet has been on every tour since 1980? And then MK solo as well? 

It's a concert classic :)

Yeah, the pee break!

Does that mean a certain member has had a weak bladder since 1980?  :think

Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: Pottel on June 14, 2023, 10:53:14 AM
Do I remember correctly that Romeo and Juliet has been on every tour since 1980? And then MK solo as well? 

It's a concert classic :)

Yeah, the pee break!

Does that mean a certain member has had a weak bladder since 1980?  :think


was 5 back then but yes, that is correct.
Title: Re: Things Not Often Talked About
Post by: dmg on June 16, 2023, 11:37:53 PM
Do I remember correctly that Romeo and Juliet has been on every tour since 1980? And then MK solo as well? 

It's a concert classic :)

Yeah, the pee break!

Does that mean a certain member has had a weak bladder since 1980?  :think


was 5 back then but yes, that is correct.

 :lol :lol