A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => One Deep River / The Boy => Topic started by: Jules on January 30, 2024, 11:41:39 AM
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Janine 4:42
It's the same old rodeo
Whenever it appears
The roughnecks and truck drivers
Pipeliners and engineers
Our dusty little cowtown
Turned into a boomtown fast
Guess we had to say so long
To our little town of the past
Janine my heart goes out to you
I know you've been trying
I've been trying too
Now there's big rigs on the highway
Loaded up with sand and tools
Oil rigs on the skyline
New kids in the schools
The thing about a cowtown
There's always dust
But it always rains eventually
And rain it must
Janine my heart goes out to you
I know you've been trying
I've been trying too
Janine my heart goes out to you
I know you've been trying
I've been trying too
I hope that you've been saving
A little of that boomtown pay
I hope that you've been holding on
To something for a rainy day
The thing about a cowtown
There's always dust
The thing about a boom is
There's always a bust
Janine my heart goes out to you
I know you've been trying
I've been trying too
Janine my heart goes out to you
I know you've been trying
I've been trying too
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It's the same old rodeo
Whenever it appears
The roughnecks and truck drivers
Pipeliners and engineers
Our dusty little cowtown
Turned into a boomtown fast
Guess we had to say so long
To our little town of the past
Janine my heart goes out to you
I know you've been trying
I've been trying too
Now there's big rigs on the highway
Loaded up with sand and tools
Oil rigs on the skyline
New kids in the schools
The thing about a cowtown
There's always dust
But it always rains eventually
And rain it must
Janine my heart goes out to you
I know you've been trying
I've been trying too
Janine my heart goes out to you
I know you've been trying
I've been trying too
I hope that you've been saving
A little of that boomtown pay
I hope that you've been holding on
To something for a rainy day
The thing about a cowtown
There's always dust
The thing about a boom is
There's always a bust
Janine my heart goes out to you
I know you've been trying
I've been trying too
Janine my heart goes out to you
I know you've been trying
I've been trying too
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First, thanks for sharing!
Second, where did you find it?
Third, obviously, now I wonder what that means!
;D
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No worries - it is on the lock bridge as "exclusive content", I don't know when it was added, but saw it just now.
I wonder how it sounds too!
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Another song about being in a band, but in metaphor this time?
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To me the lyrics give me an echo instantly with the songs and the sound from All The Roadrunning.. very familiar theme... Precious Voice From Heaven comes to mind as well... hmmm...
What is the "lock bridge"?
LE
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A roughneck is an oil rig worker. The song is a local hero theme about oil being disovered in a rural area causing it to become a boomtown.
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That sounds plausible, thank you. But more the US maybe than Scotland, because of "cowtown"?
LE
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Could be about Forth Worth in Texas or Calgary in Alberta. Both are nicknamed Cowtown and oil industry was instrumental in their development.
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I just love the state of knowledge of this forum.
And I keep Dusty in mind: almost all MK songs have double layers (or more) but it is very nice to understand the very first, most obvious one to begin with, before we work out the deeper meanings/levels/layers.
LE
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To me the lyrics give me an echo instantly with the songs and the sound from All The Roadrunning.. very familiar theme... Precious Voice From Heaven comes to mind as well... hmmm...
What is the "lock bridge"?
LE
The lock bridge
https://onedeepriver.markknopfler.com/?fbclid=IwAR2eP_tdAc5zFX7UdyySAEDv-MYog-1F_oGMcCzh8dxayAgPsPa-x3gndRM
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"I just love the state of knowledge of this forum"
It’s true :(
If we know the words to the song, we should hear it soon.
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To me the lyrics give me an echo instantly with the songs and the sound from All The Roadrunning.. very familiar theme... Precious Voice From Heaven comes to mind as well... hmmm...
What is the "lock bridge"?
LE
The lock bridge
https://onedeepriver.markknopfler.com/?fbclid=IwAR2eP_tdAc5zFX7UdyySAEDv-MYog-1F_oGMcCzh8dxayAgPsPa-x3gndRM
Aah, ok, thank you :smack
LE
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To me the lyrics give me an echo instantly with the songs and the sound from All The Roadrunning.. very familiar theme... Precious Voice From Heaven comes to mind as well... hmmm...
What is the "lock bridge"?
LE
Yeah, to me it just read like the metaphor of a musician who has been on the way up but is now heading the other way.
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After reading a couple of times, seems to talk about a little village that develops into something bigger, maybe industrial, but even it's changed what the village was remains in a way.
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Telegraph Road suits that theme as well. I guess
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After reading a couple of times, seems to talk about a little village that develops into something bigger, maybe industrial, but even it's changed what the village was remains in a way.
I remembered the words from the review by Gabriel David Barkin: ... stability in the face of change...
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...The thing about a boom is
There's always a bust...
:think
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A "timeless country song" it is called in a review from Mojo. Sounds promising.
LE
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If so, this song will be more American:)
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Beautiful guitar here
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Best solo of the album if you ask me. Really like this track
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To me, this is the outstanding track on the album. Among his best songs in general but for sure since 2002, sheer beauty, lovely melody, wonderful solo. Could have been on every Dire Straits album and would stand the test of time. I totally wonder why no review has mentioned this and why this is not the single.
LE
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I wonder who, or maybe (probably) what Janine is...
By the lyrics seems like is someone or something MK is supposed to be talking like in Seattle, he's not talking with the city obviously!
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It's just a Name, like Juliet or Nadine.
LE
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Got stuck in an endless Janine Loop and it struck me that Janine is the name of the (cow)town? Have we already talked about this possibility?
LE
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Got stuck in an endless Janine Loop and it struck me that Janine is the name of the (cow)town? Have we already talked about this possibility?
LE
In a way I did, when I said that Janine might be someone, or something...
This song musically makes me think about Beachcombing mixed with Donkeytown, and this last song lyrically has some resemblances as it talks about a town, and that led me to think that maybe Janine is a town which is changing...
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To me, this is the outstanding track on the album. Among his best songs in general but for sure since 2002, sheer beauty, lovely melody, wonderful solo. Could have been on every Dire Straits album and would stand the test of time. I totally wonder why no review has mentioned this and why this is not the single.
LE
Pretty much!
I’m not sure I can express how much I love this song already (my first listen of the album took ages because I had Janine on repeat for at least half an hour) and I really can’t think of a song on the last two albums—maybe more—that have hit me this hard from the first listen.
For my money there are at least three tracks on One Deep River that would have been much better singles/promo songs than what they chose, and Janine is one of them (it’s rather baffling, but there you go).
People who have made ATRR comparisons are right; there are definitely some Beyond My Wildest Dreams/Beachcombing/Donkey Town vibes—mainly musically, but lyrically as well.
In the end, it’s 100% pure, top-shelf Mark Knopfler—and who could ask for more?
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just a beautiful song
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What a beautiful song with a wonderful guitar solo by the man who still has the most elegant touch on the guitar.
One of my favourite songs on the new record. I listen on repeat.
I think Janine is the name of the town.
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I'm not the biggest fan of All the Roadrunning because Emmylou's voice isn't to my taste, and some musical choices on that album don't do it for me either. I love how after all these years Janine sounds like it is straight out of that era and works 100% for me (if only we had a solo live version of Beachcombing like he did with IDUAD...).
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Very nice song with nice guitar
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Now this is an excellent song, classic MK but still fresh. Great bass sound as well!
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An absolute MK classic.
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Just to get Janine back on the first page of the forum again. Kidding! It was my instant favorite of the new album and I’m trying not to repeat to often to give the other song listening time as well! ;)
MK’s recurring theme of change in society, people getting left behind, modernity striking. Some beautiful subtle guitar work that could’ve been extended in a live version which is sadly never coming..
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Currently one of my favourites. Wonderful song.
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A friend of mine told me a very unlikely theory for this song.
It is said that the tv series "Northern Exposure" idea was influenced by the film Local Hero, and this song seems to be the plot of Local Hero but it ends with the city sold to the oil, and the main female character, Stella, is very dissapointed. The main female character in Northern Exposure, Maggie O'Connell, was played by actrice JANINE Turner.
As I said, very unlikely and just coincidental but I found this theory funny, as I really love Northern Exposure.
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A friend of mine told me a very unlikely theory for this song.
It is said that the tv series "Northern Exposure" idea was influenced by the film Local Hero, and this song seems to be the plot of Local Hero but it ends with the city sold to the oil, and the main female character, Stella, is very dissapointed. The main female character in Northern Exposure, Maggie O'Connell, was played by actrice JANINE Turner.
As I said, very unlikely and just coincidental but I found this theory funny, as I really love Northern Exposure.
Why unlikely?
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Totally overrated song IMHO. Chorus has me reaching for the sick bag. Very nice "solo" but just when you're settling down for it it stops. Quite indicative of the album tbh, especially the title track. It does add some pace to the album though.
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Totally overrated song IMHO. Chorus has me reaching for the sick bag. Very nice "solo" but just when you're settling down for it it stops. Quite indicative of the album tbh, especially the title track. It does add some pace to the album though.
I was a bit disappointed when I heard it to be honest, but my expectations were high after hearing lots of people saying it was their favourite, and as a big country fan. But it turns out it's not particularly country, despite the pedal steel. Still a good track but not a stand out on the album for me.
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I love this song.
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My favorite Song
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To me it sounds like a wonderful Knopfler classic country song. Love it!
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Totally overrated song IMHO. Chorus has me reaching for the sick bag. Very nice "solo" but just when you're settling down for it it stops. Quite indicative of the album tbh, especially the title track. It does add some pace to the album though.
Go check the chord progression at 2:13
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240416/5176748d8f00ededa81440adfb58aaa6.jpg)
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Totally overrated song IMHO. Chorus has me reaching for the sick bag. Very nice "solo" but just when you're settling down for it it stops. Quite indicative of the album tbh, especially the title track. It does add some pace to the album though.
Go check the chord progression at 2:13
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240416/5176748d8f00ededa81440adfb58aaa6.jpg)
:thumbsup :clap
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Amazing find/link - melody of Janine in The Long Road. This is another that is the cream of the crop for me from this bunch. I can't get enough of this - the opening eases me into a song I love so much already. Fantastic.
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Amazing find/link - melody of Janine in The Long Road. This is another that is the cream of the crop for me from this bunch. I can't get enough of this - the opening eases me into a song I love so much already. Fantastic.
What a lovely track indeed. It took me a few minutes at first to find it, but actually that pause in The Long Road is a moment I love, which is why I picked it up straight away.
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What is it with this song but this is fast becoming my album favourite! It's so good and I absolutely love the guitar in this!
In fact I whipped out one of my MK strats last eve and played along!!!!
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https://youtu.be/00DYr22EDso
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https://youtu.be/00DYr22EDso
Fantastic! Should be officall clip.
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https://youtu.be/00DYr22EDso
Lovely video :)
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I really like this song, it is the one song on the album that got me, it is the type of MK song I like.
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I like the song. I believe this one is pretty much literall, about a town and ordinary residents facing the changes after the "boom times" have passed, while not the same but something between Sucker Row and Telegraph Road, and in a way My Heart's Never Changed.
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Maybe it is about a traveling rodeo of a sort, like the booth boxing from the "All Comers"...
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Which in turn puts me in a doubt it could be about touring as Dusty pointed
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It definitely have to do something with Cowtown Rodeo
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g46731-d3366395-Reviews-Cowtown_Rodeo-Pilesgrove_New_Jersey.html
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I still can't pick my favorite song from the latest album, but there are very often days when I have to listen to Janine:)
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Totally overrated song IMHO. Chorus has me reaching for the sick bag. Very nice "solo" but just when you're settling down for it it stops. Quite indicative of the album tbh, especially the title track. It does add some pace to the album though.
Go check the chord progression at 2:13
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240416/5176748d8f00ededa81440adfb58aaa6.jpg)
I'm glad somebody else noticed that. When 'The Long Road' came out I had it stuck in my head just as much as 'Janine' has been since the albums release.
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Totally overrated song IMHO. Chorus has me reaching for the sick bag. Very nice "solo" but just when you're settling down for it it stops. Quite indicative of the album tbh, especially the title track. It does add some pace to the album though.
Go check the chord progression at 2:13
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240416/5176748d8f00ededa81440adfb58aaa6.jpg)
I'm glad somebody else noticed that. When 'The Long Road' came out I had it stuck in my head just as much as 'Janine' has been since the albums release.
Loved it too, a friend had bought the vinyl and that's how I discovered the album.
It's a good, well-crafted song, ideal for a road trip.
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I really like this phrase:
The thing about a boom is
There's always a bust
It's about an economic boom followed by an economic bust. Better known as the economic cycle.