A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => One Deep River / The Boy => Topic started by: Jules on January 30, 2024, 11:59:12 AM
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Fat Chance Dupree 4:15
Fat Chance Dupree
Had it in for me
The cause of which I never could divine
Well they say it had to be
Some kind of fear or jealousy
Anyhow, I did not see it at the time
Now Fat Chance Dupree
Was a trapper same as me
Could have been a reason I suppose
In the winter he'd come down
From his mountain hunting grounds
But I never wanted any part of those
But who knows why
I wish I knew
We feel the things we feel
Do the things we do
Yeah who knows why
I wish I knew
We feel the things we feel
Do the things we do
Kitty Mary used to come around
The most beautiful woman in town
We'd keep each other happy now and then
She did let fall that Chance Dupree
Might try to waylay me
In the cottonwoods down by the river bend
I thought: Come on if you're comin'
Come on Fats
Come on if you're comin'
Good luck with that
Now Fat Chance Dupree
Was lying in wait for me
Which I took to be considerable unkind
I took his weapon from his hand
Which made him understand
He should not have took the path he had in mind
But who knows why
I wish I knew
We feel the things we feel
Do the things we do
Yeah who knows why
I wish I knew
We feel the things we feel
Do the things we do
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maybe a song about multiple hurricanes back in 2009/2010 hitting Dupree (South Dakota) or a song about the movie Badlands...?
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Guitarist Cornell Luther Dupree?
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Guitarist Cornell Luther Dupree?
I like this trope.
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A guy called Bill Labounty played in a band called Fat Chance. He was also friends with someone called Robbie Dupree. Not saying this is the background, but Mark can make the strangest and obscurest connections and write songs about it.
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Am I the only one, or does anyone else really like this one? I’m not saying it’s a masterpiece or better than any of the tracks on the main album, but there is something about this one that keeps me coming back to keep listening again. Lovely little song, I say.
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I don't like this one...
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I like it, not a favorite, but a good one. I would had included it in the record for sure.
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Who, what is Dupree?
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Am I the only one, or does anyone else really like this one? I’m not saying it’s a masterpiece or better than any of the tracks on the main album, but there is something about this one that keeps me coming back to keep listening again. Lovely little song, I say.
It's a grower for certain. I just took the time to listen to it a couple of times. I just could not get out of the Janine loop. :lol Nice playing from Greg Leisz and cool background vocals by the boys. Now I try to figure out what it's about.
LE
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Who, what is Dupree?
He is a trapper who came down from the Mountain. It's a Wild West scenario, the music implies a Saloon scenery to me. There is even a Kitty Mary, the most beautiful woman in town. If it is a metaphor and for what, I haven't yet worked out.
LE
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This really is a good one, really like it. I found myself whistling it at work yesterday which is a good sign.
From the same family as Stand Up Guy. Should have been on the album as a nice variation.
LE
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This really is a good one, really like it. I found myself whistling it at work yesterday which is a good sign.
From the same family as Stand Up Guy. Should have been on the album as a nice variation.
LE
I like this a lot too and agree it should have been on the album, together with The Living End and also Along a Foreign Coast.
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I love this one, 4 of the 5 CD bonus songs are really excellent and all very different style wise. It makes a great EP.
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Am I the only one, or does anyone else really like this one? I’m not saying it’s a masterpiece or better than any of the tracks on the main album, but there is something about this one that keeps me coming back to keep listening again. Lovely little song, I say.
It's a grower for certain. I just took the time to listen to it a couple of times. I just could not get out of the Janine loop. :lol Nice playing from Greg Leisz and cool background vocals by the boys. Now I try to figure out what it's about.
LE
Yes. I only saw the answer today. Thank you. Finally we can listen to the album with lyrics.
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Fantastic tune, listened in full quite a few times this morning and absolutely love this 'Secondary Waltz' like tune...very funny too...
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This film/story must have been what inspired the song: https://libwww.freelibrary.org/digital/item/60872
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Golly, how on earth did you find that?
It's amazing that you should have found it, and even more amazing that KM should watch a film from 1915 and then go and write a song about it. It seems that he really loves America, because for most people watching a film like that in our day would just be a waste of time.
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KM?
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Knopfler, Mark ;)
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That's what I suspected :)
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MK, of course. :)
My keyboard actually types backwards sometimes. Dunno why!
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"Fat Chance Dupree"
Fat Chance Dupree
Had it in for me
The cause of which I never could divine
Well they say it had to be
Some kind of fear or jealousy
Anyhow, I did not see it at the time
Now Fat Chance Dupree
Was a trapper same as me
Could have been a reason I suppose
In the winter he'd come down
From his mountain hunting grounds
But I never wanted any part of those
But who knows why
I wish I knew
We feel the things we feel
Do the things we do
Yeah who knows why
I wish I knew
We feel the things we feel
Do the things we do
Kitty Mary used to come around
The most beautiful woman in town
We'd keep each other happy now and then
She did let fall that Chance Dupree
Might try to waylay me
In the cottonwoods down by the river bend
I thought: Come on if you're comin'
Come on Fats
Come on if you're comin'
Good luck with that
Now Fat Chance Dupree
Was lying in wait for me
Which I took to be considerable unkind
I took his weapon from his hand
Which made him understand
He should not have took the path he had in mind
But who knows why
I wish I knew
We feel the things we feel
Do the things we do
Yeah who knows why
I wish I knew
We feel the things we feel
Do the things we do
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This film/story must have been what inspired the song: https://libwww.freelibrary.org/digital/item/60872
Thank you for the tip:)
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Golly, how on earth did you find that?
It's amazing that you should have found it, and even more amazing that KM should watch a film from 1915 and then go and write a song about it. It seems that he really loves America, because for most people watching a film like that in our day would just be a waste of time.
I'd actually love to see this film, but I've got NO CLUE where Mark was able to watch it ...
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Can't stop listening to this one :clap
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This really is a good one, really like it. I found myself whistling it at work yesterday which is a good sign.
From the same family as Stand Up Guy. Should have been on the album as a nice variation.
LE
Yes, that's right, the same family as Stand Up Guy:) Maybe this song even takes place at the same time. I really like this song.
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This story is really fascinating. I know what the first question I would ask MK :)
Jean and Pierre are Canadian trappers, but also in league with moonshiners in the north woods, and carry illicit whiskey concealed in their loads of furs. In Jean's cabin there is a hiding place for the jugs until the regular weekly trip to the trading post with furs, when they are transferred to a secluded hut, a step further on to the settlements. Pierre is in love with Marie Dupree, the daughter of his partner, Jean. Marie is a capricious coquette, really in love with Paul Marr, a member of the mounted police, though she torments him without mercy. She has only contempt for the trapper, Pierre. When Marie meets Hugo Sinclaire, a recruit in the police, she forgets the more quiet Paul, and imagines herself deeply in love with the newly-met officer. Her father discovers her secret meetings with Hugo, and forbids her to see him. Hugo has only been amusing himself with Marie, and openly boasts of his conquest in the guard room of the post. Paul comes to the girl's defense, and only the interference of others prevents serious trouble. When Marie fails to meet Hugo as usual he goes to her father's cabin and surprises Jean in the act of concealing the jugs of illicit whiskey. He attempts to capture Jean, and in the struggle the trapper is injured, and as he is falling to the floor he fires at Hugo. From the inner room where she has been made a prisoner by her father Marie hears the shot and tries frantically to release herself. Hugo goes to her assistance, but as he reaches the door he is shot and killed by Pierre, who has crept to the window and has taken the opportunity to rid himself of his rival. When Jean regains consciousness he finds the body of Hugo and imagines himself to be the murderer. In terror he drags the body to the road, and then returns to sink before the shrine of the Virgin in prayer. Hugo's body is found by the police, who, remembering Paul's quarrel with the dead man, accuse him and cause his arrest. Marie learns of Paul's peril and hurries to Father John, a priest, for advice. Under his urging, Jean confesses the crime, and Paul is liberated. Pierre, returning alone with a cargo of skins and whiskey, is set upon by a party of half-breed renegades and badly wounded. He is brought into the post by the police, just as Jean is being led away. Dying. Pierre confesses to Father John that it was he who killed Hugo and that Jean is innocent. That evening Jean kneels before the shrine with the priest, promising to give up his connection with the moonshiners. In the moonlit woods. Paul takes Marie in his arms.
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The definition of the word"divine" as a verb was so unexpected to me. It is interesting to learn about its etymology:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/divine
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Who, what is Dupree?
He is a trapper who came down from the Mountain. It's a Wild West scenario, the music implies a Saloon scenery to me. There is even a Kitty Mary, the most beautiful woman in town. If it is a metaphor and for what, I haven't yet worked out.
LE
Kitty Mary is his wife! I think it's wonderful and beautiful he added this line... Such a beautiful little song, definitely one of my favourites
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Who, what is Dupree?
He is a trapper who came down from the Mountain. It's a Wild West scenario, the music implies a Saloon scenery to me. There is even a Kitty Mary, the most beautiful woman in town. If it is a metaphor and for what, I haven't yet worked out.
LE
Kitty Mary is his wife! I think it's wonderful and beautiful he added this line... Such a beautiful little song, definitely one of my favourites
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I didn't suspect that but It makes sense (albeit it makes not much difference). The wife cheats on you with every man in town is not much of a wife anyway.
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This song stays in my head like an unwanted guest.