A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Rolo on December 11, 2024, 02:07:43 PM
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I was imagining a MK Tribute Album made by different artists.
Different arrangements (of course)
So, i was thinking:
Which songs could be played? and by who?
Could be Clapton, Sting, Urban, Bruce, Brian, Frampton...?
Come on, fellas. Show me your ideas.
Song - Artists (could be more than one per song)
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I guess Clapton, Sting and Urban would do it but not Bruce. Which Brian?!
If such a thing happened I can see it coming more from the Americana side of things so maybe Jason Isbell doing BiA or Emmylou doing Romeo & Juliet. :)
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I guess Clapton, Sting and Urban would do it but not Bruce. Which Brian?!
If such a thing happened I can see it coming more from the Americana side of things so maybe Jason Isbell doing BiA or Emmylou doing Romeo & Juliet. :)
I can see Brunce singing/playing on Solid Rock or Expresso Love
The Brian that I mention is Brian Johnson. And I could imagine he singing Wild West End.
Jason on BIA and Emmyliou on RJ could be great.
Extrapoling a bit. I could imagine John Mayer playing on Once Upon A Time In The West
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I just can't see Bruce caring enough about MK to participate.
And with Brian's "unique" voice I'm struggling a bit to see what he could do... maybe MFN?
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Springsteen could pull of a pretty good acoustic version of Telegraph Road I believe.
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I just can't see Bruce caring enough about MK to participate.
And with Brian's "unique" voice I'm struggling a bit to see what he could do... maybe MFN?
Springsteen could pull of a pretty good acoustic version of Telegraph Road I believe.
The problem is anybody could sing anything, whether it will work that is the question. There is a famous video on YouTube where José Feliciano is apparently "butchering" Every Breath You Take in front of Sting, maybe just not the best choice for the song. It's so easy to ruin an MK song, though... It's tough to cover MK, that's why we're not hearing a lot of covers in the first place (this and his "amazing" popularity, of course). So an album of covers is only a dream, I'm afraid, at least in the near future.
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I just can't see Bruce caring enough about MK to participate.
And with Brian's "unique" voice I'm struggling a bit to see what he could do... maybe MFN?
Springsteen could pull of a pretty good acoustic version of Telegraph Road I believe.
The problem is anybody could sing anything, whether it will work that is the question. There is a famous video on YouTube where José Feliciano is apparently "butchering" Every Breath You Take in front of Sting, maybe just not the best choice for the song. It's so easy to ruin an MK song, though... It's tough to cover MK, that's why we're not hearing a lot of covers in the first place (this and his "amazing" popularity, of course). So an album of covers is only a dream, I'm afraid, at least in the near future.
That's why the What If is in the title. ;D
LE
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I just can't see Bruce caring enough about MK to participate.
And with Brian's "unique" voice I'm struggling a bit to see what he could do... maybe MFN?
Springsteen could pull of a pretty good acoustic version of Telegraph Road I believe.
The problem is anybody could sing anything, whether it will work that is the question. There is a famous video on YouTube where José Feliciano is apparently "butchering" Every Breath You Take in front of Sting, maybe just not the best choice for the song. It's so easy to ruin an MK song, though... It's tough to cover MK, that's why we're not hearing a lot of covers in the first place (this and his "amazing" popularity, of course). So an album of covers is only a dream, I'm afraid, at least in the near future.
That's why the What If is in the title. ;D
LE
LOL! I can't come up with a single example of who should cover what. I don't know, Frank Sinatra singing The Way It Always Starts? But Mark already did the thinking for us and thought a better singer should sing this song. Who listens to covers of Mark's songs anyway? I only listen to Gregorian's version of "Brothers In Arms" sometimes and that's it. And I only like Gregorian's version because it's so far away from the original, so the further you go from the original, the better I think.
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I just saw a couple of trailers and snippets of the upcoming Dylan movie "A Complete Unknown" where Paul Atreides DOES sing himself versions of classic Dylan songs and he does it pretty good! If that's possible, it MUST be possible to get someone to sing like Mark.
Early Tom Waits would have been good, and Tony Joe White.
LE
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I just can't see Bruce caring enough about MK to participate.
And with Brian's "unique" voice I'm struggling a bit to see what he could do... maybe MFN?
Springsteen could pull of a pretty good acoustic version of Telegraph Road I believe.
The problem is anybody could sing anything, whether it will work that is the question. There is a famous video on YouTube where José Feliciano is apparently "butchering" Every Breath You Take in front of Sting, maybe just not the best choice for the song. It's so easy to ruin an MK song, though... It's tough to cover MK, that's why we're not hearing a lot of covers in the first place (this and his "amazing" popularity, of course). So an album of covers is only a dream, I'm afraid, at least in the near future.
That's why the What If is in the title. ;D
LE
LOL! I can't come up with a single example of who should cover what. I don't know, Frank Sinatra singing The Way It Always Starts? But Mark already did the thinking for us and thought a better singer should sing this song. Who listens to covers of Mark's songs anyway? I only listen to Gregorian's version of "Brothers In Arms" sometimes and that's it. And I only like Gregorian's version because it's so far away from the original, so the further you go from the original, the better I think.
Good question.
There are a couple of good versions of Setting Me Up, from Albert Lee and Waylon Jennings
And a good Water of Love from The Judds.
I love, love, love The Everly Brothers but by the time the 80s had rolled around their voices had changed and their version of Why Worry wasn't the best. Art Garfunkel's is OK.
The Shadows doing Going Home is OK.
Acoustic Metallica BiA is quite good fun :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfPxU88Qqkg
Isbell's BiA is probably up there with the best, one of the few to have a great voice and the guitar chops to pull something like this off IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRwe9gYewEI
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LOL! I can't come up with a single example of who should cover what. I don't know, Frank Sinatra singing The Way It Always Starts? But Mark already did the thinking for us and thought a better singer should sing this song. Who listens to covers of Mark's songs anyway? I only listen to Gregorian's version of "Brothers In Arms" sometimes and that's it. And I only like Gregorian's version because it's so far away from the original, so the further you go from the original, the better I think.
Come on, Pavel. LOL ;D
Don't put MK as a untouchable artist.
I am not talking about covers perse, I am talking about (re)interpretations. Another point of view about a MK song.
As said by dusty, the are others cool versions.
I think that Albert Lee's version of Setting Me Up Stunning.
Dream, Pavel.
Could be even Bob.
This topic is fictional as a hundred other topics with tons os delusioninsms.
Say names and songs, for god's sake. ;D
ps. read my answer in a good mood. This is not a serious topic.
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Just remembered, Mary Chapin Carpenter's version of The Bug is very nice :)
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OK, here is my delusions
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We Are The Sultans - A Mark Knopfler Appreciation
Expresso Love - Bruce Springsteen
In The Gallery - John Mayer
Setting Me Up - Vince Gill & Guthrie Trapp
Brothers In Arms - Emmylou Harris & Bros Landreth
Heavy Fuel - Brian Johnson
Why Worry - Bob Dylan
Solid Rock - Joe Satriani
Money For Nothing - Ian Gillan % David Gilmour
It Never Rains - Eric Clapton & Pete Townshend
Tunnel Of Love - Keith Urban
Love Over Gold - Daniel Santiago
;D
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This is a really interesting topic!
I can't think of the songs right now, but I'd wish for Bryan Ferry, Van Morrison and maybe Joan Armatrading to join the project, in case it ever happens.
Maybe Bryan Ferry could do "Your Latest Trick".
And Ian Anderson, who wrote and sang the best Dire Straits song ever ("Said she was a dancer") :lol
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This is a really interesting topic!
I can't think of the songs right now, but I'd wish for Bryan Ferry, Van Morrison and maybe Joan Armatrading to join the project, in case it ever happens.
Maybe Bryan Ferry could do "Your Latest Trick".
And Ian Anderson, who wrote and sang the best Dire Straits song ever ("Said she was a dancer") :lol
Thanks!
I never listened Ian's "Said She Was A Dancer".
My first thought was that DK was singing it. LOL
Wich MK song you think that fit Joan and Van?
I think that Bob could sing Kingdom Of Gold too.
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Yes, I also thought about DK :)
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Isbell's BiA is probably up there with the best, one of the few to have a great voice and the guitar chops to pull something like this off IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRwe9gYewEI
As much as I like Jason Isbell, that was awful. Mark's husky vocals and elegant phrasing on the guitar are so part and parcel of BIA. Isbell here sounds like your average blues jam hack "having a go" at BIA.
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This is a really interesting topic!
I can't think of the songs right now, but I'd wish for Bryan Ferry, Van Morrison and maybe Joan Armatrading to join the project, in case it ever happens.
Maybe Bryan Ferry could do "Your Latest Trick".
And Ian Anderson, who wrote and sang the best Dire Straits song ever ("Said she was a dancer") :lol
Thanks!
I never listened Ian's "Said She Was A Dancer".
My first thought was that DK was singing it. LOL
Wich MK song you think that fit Joan and Van?
I think that Bob could sing Kingdom Of Gold too.
The whole Crest of a Knave album is just fantastic. The first time I heard "Dancer", I actually thought it was MK, it was only the accent that didn't fit (Mark would never say "daaancer").
For Van it could be "It never rains", "Love over Gold", "Baloney, "When you leave", "Let it all go" - so many possibilities for the world's best singer!
With Joan, I'm not sure. Definitely something fast and powerful, maybe "Tunnel"?
Bob could sing pretty much anything, too. Maybe a dylanised "Coyote" would be fun?
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What I think is cool is that today with AI we can give free rein to our imagination, it is capable of simulating a version of any DS or MK song solo in the voice of any of these names, from what I can tell. Today they are simulating some Led Zeppelin songs being released with the soundscape of the 50s, soon we may come across something from DS along those lines, or who knows, It Never Rains or Industrial Diseases with Bob Dylan from 1966 singing, or Skateaway with John Mayer, You and Your Friend with JJ Calle... that kind of thing. They have already done Sultans of Swing with Elvis singing. :lol
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Really? Artificial intelligence scares me more and more.
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Really? Artificial intelligence scares me more and more.
Why? All that AI is doing is replacing the existing phrasing and delivery with a new voice (i.e. timbre), it can't do a full-blown cover version of a song, merely a sneak peek of how it could sound. Because obviously, to do a complete cover, AI needs to basically become human, which is not happening. It's a fun toy to play with, but nothing more.
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It will (and is already) destroying jobs big time, especially in creative areas.
LE
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It will (and is already) destroying jobs big time, especially in creative areas.
LE
I'm sorry, but if your (not LE's) job was replaced by this rudimentary AI we are working with today, then your job was shitty in the first place. This thing can't even count the number of fingers on a human's hand; I won't trust it to replace a proper human being at this point. The fact it (sort of) passes the Turing test doesn't mean we have become slaves to a machine. It's still a stupid, overly glorified calculator that only counts faster.
If AI could really reimagine a song, and sing it with original phrasing and voice, I'd be impressed, so as anyone else. We are a long way from this though!
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I’d love to hear Clapton do "Sultans of Swing" or maybe Sting take on "Romeo and Juliet." Bruce Springsteen could totally nail "Brothers in Arms," don’t you think?
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I’d love to hear Clapton do "Sultans of Swing" or maybe Sting take on "Romeo and Juliet." Bruce Springsteen could totally nail "Brothers in Arms," don’t you think?
I think it's definitely possible, but I also think younger artists could hop on this train and cover some MK stuff. I'd kill to hear Fleet Foxes doing one of Mark's songs!
By the way, speaking of AI, apparently, this album is entirely AI-generated, with only lyrics provided to analyze. Sometimes it even matches The Beatles' melodies LOL :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecsg4VBnqN0
Again, people in the comments say we are all doomed, but I can't see it more than a fun experiment. Like, what's the ACTUAL profit from this? Sounds cool, and so what?
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I wouldn't like to hear anyone plagiarise one of Mark's songs in any way whatsoever. He's a bit of a unique artist and his songs are specifically written by him, for him. He sings and plays guitar while performing his songs and both distinctively as nobody else can do naturally.
I agree with Quizzy in that if the arrangement is changed to suit the artist then fair enough, but I'm not a fan of this at all. Also, isn't this sort of thing done when someone dies?!!!