A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: nando_5994 on December 28, 2024, 10:03:53 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhVHSi761Js
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Pity that he didn't wrote Corned Beef City at 1977
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Thrilling. It was sad to see Romeo overtake Sultans so close before the finish line.
LE
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Thrilling. It was sad to see Romeo overtake Sultans so close before the finish line.
LE
The Sultans should've been gone long before the finish line, you know how much I "love" this song ;D
To me, it's the opposite—it shows in the end a simple strumming song won over a flashy guitar-playing staple full of chops. That's the way you do it!
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Pity that he didn't wrote Corned Beef City at 1977
:lol :lol
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Thrilling. It was sad to see Romeo overtake Sultans so close before the finish line.
LE
I like both but I agree. He really should've stopped playing Romeo earlier too; 2019 versions simply have zero energy. I was watching Sonny Liston next to TOL and wondering if it was going to overtake but they both disappeared off the bottom for Paraguay. ::)
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Pity that he didn't wrote Corned Beef City at 1977
This is the song that caused my breakup with Mark.
Being a long time fan I did a long journey to witness the Privatering Tour as early as possible and I caught him in Turino, 5th or something show of the tour.
I was there on my seat and during that song I suddenly wondered why I was doing this and get him performing that kind of stuff?
Something had changed in me and it was a very bad feeling.
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Pity that he didn't wrote Corned Beef City at 1977
This is the song that caused my breakup you with Mark.
Being a long time fan I did a long journey to witness the Privatering Tour as early as possible and I caught him in Turino, 5th or something show of the tour.
I was there on my seat and during that song I suddenly wondered why I was doing this and get him performing that kind of stuff?
Something had changed in me and it was a very bad feeling.
There are much worse songs than CBC I would think. But I understand exactly what you mean. I had the same during Hamburg 2015. I sat there and had the feeling of literally wasting my time. Years later I bought a ticket for Hannover 2019 just out of reflex and pre-sale panic but couldn't be bothered to go. I just let it go, did not even try to sell it. That's when we "divorced". We got close again last year when the DS Live Box was released. :D
LE
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Pity that he didn't wrote Corned Beef City at 1977
This is the song that caused my breakup you with Mark.
Being a long time fan I did a long journey to witness the Privatering Tour as early as possible and I caught him in Turino, 5th or something show of the tour.
I was there on my seat and during that song I suddenly wondered why I was doing this and get him performing that kind of stuff?
Something had changed in me and it was a very bad feeling.
There are much worse songs than CBC I would think. But I understand exactly what you mean. I had the same during Hamburg 2015. I sat there and had the feeling of literally wasting my time. Years later I bought a ticket for Hannover 2019 just out of reflex and pre-sale panic but couldn't be bothered to go. I just let it go, did not even try to sell it. That's when we "divorced". We got close again last year when the DS Live Box was released. :D
LE
The Privateering and Tracker tour were a major downgrade compared to the great Get Lucky tour. I didn't feel the energy I had felt in 2010, the setlist choices were very questionable and even the concert audios for download sound terrible. In fact, during the Tracker tour I felt like I was watching the same show of 2013 with the addition of Broken Bones (of all Tracker songs, bloody hell).
DTRW tour I thought it was okay considering it was his last and his health/playing issues. At least he changed the setlist around and I got to hear SIlvertown Blues live, which is something I never thought would happen.
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I often read at AMIT that the 2013 is judged pretty bad but I honestly think that it was the best of the last tours. Energy level was great, set list also (not aiming to discuss it again). Mark was in great form and looked great. The change to that within two years until 2015 was drastic. As much as I love Tracker, the tour I was not as pleased with as with all earlier ones. The setlist, to get back to topic, DID evolve from 2010 to 2013 with a lot of new songs and changes (within the MK universe, that is.).
LE
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I often read at AMIT that the 2013 is judged pretty bad but I honestly think that it was the best of the last tours. Energy level was great, set list also (not aiming to discuss it again). Mark was in great form and looked great. The change to that within two years until 2015 was drastic. As much as I love Tracker, the tour I was not as pleased with as with all earlier ones. The setlist, to get back to topic, DID evolve from 2010 to 2013 with a lot of new songs and changes (within the MK universe, that is.).
LE
I've been thinking that of late too. Retrospectively the Privateering tour is the best tour since the SL tour IMHO, in terms of how good shape he was in.
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The Get Lucky tour was my absolute favourite. I attended four concerts and MK's playing was amazing, even though he was sitting down throughout.
I really enjoyed the Privateering tour too. There was a lot of energy and MK's playing was very good.
The Tracker tour was disappointing for me, especially as Tracker is amongst my favourite albums. However, I felt that some of the songs didn't transfer live as well as they could have done.
Regarding DTRW, I really enjoyed all three of the shows I attended, but it was very obvious that Mark's health was deteriorating. Even so I felt that he had ended his touring on a high.
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Nice to see (both of you Val and dmg) :) have a happy new year with much health and luck! Everybody else too, of course. Greetings! :wave
LE
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Nice to see (both of you Val and dmg) :) have a happy new year with much health and luck! Everybody else too, of course. Greetings! :wave
LE
Thank you LE for your good wishes. I hope you also have a very happy and, especially, healthy New Year. All the best to everyone on AMIT too! :wave
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Nice to see (both of you Val and dmg) :) have a happy new year with much health and luck! Everybody else too, of course. Greetings! :wave
LE
Thank you LE for your good wishes. I hope you also have a very happy and, especially, healthy New Year. All the best to everyone on AMIT too! :wave
All the very best to both of you and all the other AMITers I've had the pleasure of meeting over the years. :wave
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Just as an aside....
I agree with some of the Youtube comments. The numbers seem off and anyway it isn't an indication of the most important, valued songs in Mark's heart. For examples, the On Every Street tour played hundreds of shows (300 pus) and songs we were directly promoting (like Calling Elvis, On Every Street) were played at every show, racking up big performance numbers.
We alternated Tunnel Of Love and Telegraph Road, almost never playing both in the same show (never?), and I think we all viewed the songs as fantastic and they both went down great with the audience. So if we only played Telegraph Road half the times we played Calling Elvis, it doesn't mean that Elvis was more cherished by mark. It just means a set list is like a tasting menu. Songs are chosen to flow from beginning of the show to end, and one song compliments another.
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Chris can i ask you (if you know) why MK stopped playing TOL at some point during the OES tour?
In the beginning it was indeed on and off with TR but at a certain point TOL was dropped and sadly it never came back.....Do you have any memory why?
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No, only that we never played the two songs in the same set. So after we swapped them in and out for a while maybe Mark settled on just keeping Telegraph Road in. Maybe he thought it went down better, or he enjoyed playing it more.
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Pity that he didn't wrote Corned Beef City at 1977
This is the song that caused my breakup you with Mark.
Being a long time fan I did a long journey to witness the Privatering Tour as early as possible and I caught him in Turino, 5th or something show of the tour.
I was there on my seat and during that song I suddenly wondered why I was doing this and get him performing that kind of stuff?
Something had changed in me and it was a very bad feeling.
There are much worse songs than CBC I would think. But I understand exactly what you mean. I had the same during Hamburg 2015. I sat there and had the feeling of literally wasting my time. Years later I bought a ticket for Hannover 2019 just out of reflex and pre-sale panic but couldn't be bothered to go. I just let it go, did not even try to sell it. That's when we "divorced". We got close again last year when the DS Live Box was released. :D
LE
The Privateering and Tracker tour were a major downgrade compared to the great Get Lucky tour. I didn't feel the energy I had felt in 2010, the setlist choices were very questionable and even the concert audios for download sound terrible. In fact, during the Tracker tour I felt like I was watching the same show of 2013 with the addition of Broken Bones (of all Tracker songs, bloody hell).
DTRW tour I thought it was okay considering it was his last and his health/playing issues. At least he changed the setlist around and I got to hear SIlvertown Blues live, which is something I never thought would happen.
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Exactly my thoughts. Cannot add more to this.
That's why I also began to search new bands and musicians in 2014 and found Joe Bonamassa and many more.
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Chris can i ask you (if you know) why MK stopped playing TOL at some point during the OES tour?
In the beginning it was indeed on and off with TR but at a certain point TOL was dropped and sadly it never came back.....Do you have any memory why?
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To be fair, we know TOL was performed on the 2nd October in Barcelona which is only about a week from the last date of the tour. I think it's become a bit of a myth that it was dropped during the tour. It was actually dropped completely since he went solo (as was PI) and perhaps this is where the myth comes from.
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Chris can i ask you (if you know) why MK stopped playing TOL at some point during the OES tour?
In the beginning it was indeed on and off with TR but at a certain point TOL was dropped and sadly it never came back.....Do you have any memory why?
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To be fair, we know TOL was performed on the 2nd October in Barcelona which is only about a week from the last date of the tour. I think it's become a bit of a myth that it was dropped during the tour. It was actually dropped completely since he went solo (as was PI) and perhaps this is where the myth comes from.
Yes, Tunnel was in the set during the tour, although TR was the one most played, many nights Tunnel was played instead. It was in Barcelona, during one of the last DS ever shows the last time it was played.
During the MK solo career, was dropped permanently.
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I remember a theory that Mark stopped play TOL for personal reasons.
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I remember a theory that Mark stopped play TOL for personal reasons.
Tunnel Of Love was known to be his dad's favourite song of him, and Erwin Knopfler passed away in May 1993, so it would have made sense as a personal reason to not play it anymore afterwards.
To me it was always only a bonus when he played Dire Straits songs during his solo career. The frustration came not so much out of what he selected but from it always being the same most of the time. I never expected him to play Private Investigatons or Tunnel Of Love with the 96's. Once Upon A Time In The West was a nice surprise and fitted perfectly to the band, although the Alchemy era version stays unbeaten. Water Of Love from 1996 was a true gem. Portobello Belle as rehearsed in Munich 2001 would have been nice, too.
LE
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There are inaccuracies on the set list.com webpage, so not only am I not surprised we played Tunnel In Barcelona, but I'm sure overall we played some of the songs more often than they are stated on setlist.com.
I doubt we would have played Tunnel once during an entire European leg of the tour (maybe?), but it's likely we played it more than once over those final months.
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I attended Bremen Sept 26 1991 and Munich Oct 11 1991 and both times Tunnel was played.
I check On Every Bootleg more often than setlist sites as it is most accurate, listened to and made by a "die hard" fan. And it is more or less complete. Jeroen got highest praises from Ed ref. correctness. There you can see that Tunnel and Telegraph Road changed pretty regularly from the beginning of the tour.
LE
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There are inaccuracies on the set list.com webpage, so not only am I not surprised we played Tunnel In Barcelona, but I'm sure overall we played some of the songs more often than they are stated on setlist.com.
I doubt we would have played Tunnel once during an entire European leg of the tour (maybe?), but it's likely we played it more than once over those final months.
Most (I guess not all) of that sets in setlist.fm comes from audio and video recordings, so most of them are accurate, and I say most because sometimes these recordings are not properly labelled but just a few.
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I attended Bremen Sept 26 1991 and Munich Oct 11 1991 and both times Tunnel was played.
I check On Every Bootleg more often than setlist sites as it is most accurate, listened to and made by a "die hard" fan. And it is more or less complete. Jeroen got highest praises from Ed ref. correctness. There you can see that Tunnel and Telegraph Road changed pretty regularly from the beginning of the tour.
LE
Yes, Jeroen site is the bible in that terms.
Also is true that Tunnel was less played during the last European leg but also got played a lot, not as much as TR.
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For example on Set List.com they have 'Calling Elvis' performed fewer times than we played shows. Maybe some of the videos or audio don't start from the beginning of the show, or end before the last encore?
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For example on Set List.com they have 'Calling Elvis' performed fewer times than we played shows. Maybe some of the videos or audio don't start from the beginning of the show, or end before the last encore?
We don't know the setlists of concerts we don't have audio or video recordings. Maybe there are some that people put by memory despite we don't have recordings but we don't have all set lists...
We wish we could have all of them, of course but only the band members and crew might have the papers with them and the dates.
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There is no doubt that every OES concert started with Calling Elvis, followed by Walk Of Life. So Chris is right of course that there can't be a difference between the number of shows and numbers of these songs being played. Same goes for Romeo, Private Investigatons, Sultans and On Every Street as title track.
LE
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I don't take setlist.com for granted.
Chris is right I have seen inacuracies regarding several artists.
Jeroen is way more reliable.
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I remember a theory that Mark stopped play TOL for personal reasons.
Tunnel Of Love was known to be his dad's favourite song of him, and Erwin Knopfler passed away in May 1993, so it would have made sense as a personal reason to not play it anymore afterwards.
To me it was always only a bonus when he played Dire Straits songs during his solo career. The frustration came not so much out of what he selected but from it always being the same most of the time. I never expected him to play Private Investigatons or Tunnel Of Love with the 96's. Once Upon A Time In The West was a nice surprise and fitted perfectly to the band, although the Alchemy era version stays unbeaten. Water Of Love from 1996 was a true gem. Portobello Belle as rehearsed in Munich 2001 would have been nice, too.
LE
Guy once give the songs they rehearsed for a tour many years ago. I think it was GL tour. The man's too strong was on the list but sadly never made it to the setlist.
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I remember a theory that Mark stopped play TOL for personal reasons.
Tunnel Of Love was known to be his dad's favourite song of him, and Erwin Knopfler passed away in May 1993, so it would have made sense as a personal reason to not play it anymore afterwards.
To me it was always only a bonus when he played Dire Straits songs during his solo career. The frustration came not so much out of what he selected but from it always being the same most of the time. I never expected him to play Private Investigatons or Tunnel Of Love with the 96's. Once Upon A Time In The West was a nice surprise and fitted perfectly to the band, although the Alchemy era version stays unbeaten. Water Of Love from 1996 was a true gem. Portobello Belle as rehearsed in Munich 2001 would have been nice, too.
LE
Guy once give the songs they rehearsed for a tour many years ago. I think it was GL tour. The man's too strong was on the list but sadly never made it to the setlist.
I think the tour in question was the 2003 cancelled tour, supporting The Ragpicker Dream album.
Ultimately The Man's Too Strong was then reconsidered for the KTGC tour but Hill Framer´s Blues was prefered instead.
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I am glad we are finally getting to the bottom of this. My life will not be complete until I know how many times a song was played during a tour more than 30 years ago.
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OMG, folks.
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I am glad we are finally getting to the bottom of this. My life will not be complete until I know how many times a song was played during a tour more than 30 years ago.
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OMG, folks.
It's natural for fans to count, analyze, compare and do strange things. These are fans and I like it very much:)
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I am glad we are finally getting to the bottom of this. My life will not be complete until I know how many times a song was played during a tour more than 30 years ago.
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OMG, folks.
Arrogant.
LE
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I am glad we are finally getting to the bottom of this. My life will not be complete until I know how many times a song was played during a tour more than 30 years ago.
:smack
OMG, folks.
Well it is sort of a mix of nostalgia and fun and it just reminds me all these years on the road following Mark.
It brings me memories.
This kind of little things help to support harshness of everyday life.
I am so sorry for you that you seem to take this way too seriously.
Enjoy your life :wave
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Pity that he didn't wrote Corned Beef City at 1977
This is the song that caused my breakup with Mark.
Being a long time fan I did a long journey to witness the Privatering Tour as early as possible and I caught him in Turino, 5th or something show of the tour.
I was there on my seat and during that song I suddenly wondered why I was doing this and get him performing that kind of stuff?
Something had changed in me and it was a very bad feeling.
When I first listened MK playing the songs that became the Privateering album in 2011. I really enjoy them.
At the time, CBC was a good filler and suited very well along Privateering, Haul Away among others on that setlist.
Another point of that 2011 tour with Dylan was that was the very last time that I saw MK playing great as 2001/2002. We was way better in his playing than he was during the SL tour. The band was great too. They were 'on fire'. Even Sonny Liston (another overplayed MK song IMO) was fitted right.
In 2012, that fire went over.
I don't really remember when was my 'break up' with MK's music. I insisted on listening to him even when I was bored with his music.
KTGC was a shock, Get Lucky was a little better. They tours, in my opinion, was a disaster. Privateering is one of my favorite MK albums. After that, is all downhill. (in my opinion, folks)
However, I think that listening the bootlegs from 2010 to 2019 were my dislike for MK's work. The same setlist structure, the new songs sounded exacly as the replaced ones. Always the same thing. Thin sound, low energy... Yes, the tours made me annoyed about MK.
Privateering tour could be better. However, in my opinion, was the best MK solo tour since SL.
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Pity that he didn't wrote Corned Beef City at 1977
This is the song that caused my breakup you with Mark.
Being a long time fan I did a long journey to witness the Privatering Tour as early as possible and I caught him in Turino, 5th or something show of the tour.
I was there on my seat and during that song I suddenly wondered why I was doing this and get him performing that kind of stuff?
Something had changed in me and it was a very bad feeling.
There are much worse songs than CBC I would think. But I understand exactly what you mean. I had the same during Hamburg 2015. I sat there and had the feeling of literally wasting my time. Years later I bought a ticket for Hannover 2019 just out of reflex and pre-sale panic but couldn't be bothered to go. I just let it go, did not even try to sell it. That's when we "divorced". We got close again last year when the DS Live Box was released. :D
LE
There are much worse songs than CBC I would think. Indeed.
I think that the recent tours was 'all the same'.
They rehearsed a couple of new songs and was it. The energy on stage was the same. It means... weak.
I think MK spent a little more time thinking about the setlist on his lastest tour. Just because of his limitations and was his retirement tour.
About the boxset.
I didn't bought anything from DS/MK since my MK/EH DVD.
The MK/DS Management is pure trash.
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"About the boxset.
I didn't bought anything from DS/MK since my MK/EH DVD.
The MK/DS Management is pure trash"
Really? The last Dire Straits live box is amazing.
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Just as an aside....
I agree with some of the Youtube comments. The numbers seem off and anyway it isn't an indication of the most important, valued songs in Mark's heart. For examples, the On Every Street tour played hundreds of shows (300 pus) and songs we were directly promoting (like Calling Elvis, On Every Street) were played at every show, racking up big performance numbers.
We alternated Tunnel Of Love and Telegraph Road, almost never playing both in the same show (never?), and I think we all viewed the songs as fantastic and they both went down great with the audience. So if we only played Telegraph Road half the times we played Calling Elvis, it doesn't mean that Elvis was more cherished by mark. It just means a set list is like a tasting menu. Songs are chosen to flow from beginning of the show to end, and one song compliments another.
It's funny that, besides the 'promoting songs', the songs that MK enjoys to play are the low ranked ones.
As Ed said: - Today's Mark sell only for his fanbase.
He literally plays what he wants. However, he chooses the worse songs.
Strange that, if you listen the DTRW album, the songs that are "just there" are the songs that he choosed to play live.
I completely dislike that album. However, he could choose better songs to put on the setlist.
What intrigates the fanbase is appears that Mark records his 'promoting songs' with a completely dislike for them.
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"About the boxset.
I didn't bought anything from DS/MK since my MK/EH DVD.
The MK/DS Management is pure trash"
Really? The last Dire Straits live box is amazing.
Rainbow Theater is the best thing about the boxset.
The rest, to me, means nothing.
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What intrigates the fanbase is appears that Mark records his 'promoting songs' with a completely dislike for them.
When you are on a major global tour, you are supposed to play the songs most people want to hear. 'Most people' on a tour of that magnitude are not the hardcore fans looking to hear deep cuts. It's kind of embarrassing to be in a band on tour and NOT be playing some of the big hits.
Sure, after more than ten years Mark got tired of playing those old hits and wanted to pursue a new direction. That's understandable and fine. People usually know, from online reviews and Youtube clips, what they are going to see.
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What intrigates the fanbase is appears that Mark records his 'promoting songs' with a completely dislike for them.
When you are on a major global tour, you are supposed to play the songs most people want to hear. 'Most people' on a tour of that magnitude are not the hardcore fans looking to hear deep cuts. It's kind of embarrassing to be in a band on tour and NOT be playing some of the big hits.
Sure, after more than ten years Mark got tired of playing those old hits and wanted to pursue a new direction. That's understandable and fine. People usually know, from online reviews and Youtube clips, what they are going to see.
Yes. Of course.
For me DS and MK as solo artists are incomparable. And he is right to pursue what moves him. It's an artistic desicion.
When I said about Mark dislike his 'promotional songs', I am talking about his recent works.
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What intrigates the fanbase is appears that Mark records his 'promoting songs' with a completely dislike for them.
When you are on a major global tour, you are supposed to play the songs most people want to hear. 'Most people' on a tour of that magnitude are not the hardcore fans looking to hear deep cuts. It's kind of embarrassing to be in a band on tour and NOT be playing some of the big hits.
Sure, after more than ten years Mark got tired of playing those old hits and wanted to pursue a new direction. That's understandable and fine. People usually know, from online reviews and Youtube clips, what they are going to see.
Yes. Of course.
For me DS and MK as solo artists are incomparable. And he is right to pursue what moves him. It's an artistic desicion.
When I said about Mark dislike his 'promotional songs', I am talking about his recent works.
Dislikes? Most have been to concerts (Darling Pretty, What It Is, Why Aye Man, Boom Like That, True Love Wil Never Fade, Border Reiver)
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But interesting fact is Mark promoting the Tracker album with "Beryl" and drop it even before the first concert of the tour.
And on the next album filming a clip for Good On You Son and not performing it live at all only performed for promo shows...
I don't remember him doing this before.
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But interesting fact is Mark promoting the Tracker album with "Beryl" and drop it even before the first concert of the tour.
And on the next album filming a clip for Good On You Son and not perfiming it live at all...
I don't remember him doing this before.
Dancefloor, One Song At The Time and Good On You Son.
Good songs never played live (except on GOYS played at Abbey Road)
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MK hardly promoted his albums with touring. That was the case until let's say 2001. Since then, making albums was more or less an "alibi" or an official reason to go on tour again. Album sales declined more and more, touring got more and more relevant to earn money.
LE
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MK hardly promoted his albums with touring. That was the case until let's say 2001. Since then, making albums was more or less an "alibi" or an official reason to go on tour again. Album sales declined more and more, touring got more and more relevant to earn money.
LE
Yes, I think you are right about the promotion bit, but not about the money bit. I guess he after 2001 just went to studio to do what he loved the most, namely to play and record music. Then there was a tour, partly financed by record sales. But he didn’t have to earn money, so I guess it all was purely for the fun of it.
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Yes, he loved "the whole circle". ;D
LE
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I don't have the figure, and I don't read in Mark's mind.
So I don't know how the "money" factor was playing regarding album and touring.
But everybody noticed that despite being a kind of a "merco boy" he set a deal with VW to supply the the cars for a tour.
For sure Mark did take an "artistic" decision when disbanding the Dire Straits band and brand and gained more control over his records from TRD but I still ignore to what extend.
When talking about "promoting album" the term applies as Mark used a three steps routine : writing - recording - touring.
And each tour featured multiple extracts from his latest album in date, and generally a bunch of them where dropped as soon as on the next tour.
Of course I remember that 2008 was a bit of an exception as he performed more tracks from TRD than KTGC itself.
Regarding album promotion itself, well the more the time went the more Mark went to miminal effort on promotion on TV and radio.
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Of course I remember that 2008 was a bit of an exception as he performed more tracks from TRD than KTGC itself.
I remember meeting you for the first time at The Heineken, ds1984, and we both agreed that this was really TRD tour. ;)
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Maybe because the TRD tour was cancelled.
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Maybe because the TRD tour was cancelled.
Exactly! :)
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And it was a pleasant surprise. Including Devil Baby :wave
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Being a long time fan I did a long journey to witness the Privatering Tour as early as possible and I caught him in Turino, 5th or something show of the tour.
I was there on my seat and during that song I suddenly wondered why I was doing this and get him performing that kind of stuff?
Something had changed in me and it was a very bad feeling.
The very same happened to me when MK changed his drummer in 2011. I felt that all the energy that I liked in Mark's music vanished from that point, both live and on the records.
I went back to see them in 2019 because it was obviously the last tour and I wanted to give a proper goodbye to the man who, through his music, played such a big part in my life.
But yeah, same as ds1984, "something had changed in me and it was a very bad feeling". Today I barely listen to Mark's music, which is sad too considering the fact that I had been in love with it for decades. I hadn't came here for ages either, so hello to you, die hard fans!
The 1996 setlist was phenomenal, I don't think he had done better before and since. The 2006 was also exceptional, as the tour itself.
Considering MK's piece of work, it's a pity that all the other solo tours had such repetitive songs, especially during the second half of the show, they could've done sooo much better in my opinion. The DS tours were less repetitive, don't you think?
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Being a long time fan I did a long journey to witness the Privatering Tour as early as possible and I caught him in Turino, 5th or something show of the tour.
I was there on my seat and during that song I suddenly wondered why I was doing this and get him performing that kind of stuff?
Something had changed in me and it was a very bad feeling.
The very same happened to me when MK changed his drummer in 2011. I felt that all the energy that I liked in Mark's music vanished from that point, both live and on the records.
I went back to see them in 2019 because it was obviously the last tour and I wanted to give a proper goodbye to the man who, through his music, played such a big part in my life.
But yeah, same as ds1984, "something had changed in me and it was a very bad feeling". Today I barely listen to Mark's music, which is sad too considering the fact that I had been in love with it for decades. I hadn't came here for ages either, so hello to you, die hard fans!
The 1996 setlist was phenomenal, I don't think he had done better before and since. The 2006 was also exceptional, as the tour itself.
Considering MK's piece of work, it's a pity that all the other solo tours had such repetitive songs, especially during the second half of the show, they could've done sooo much better in my opinion. The DS tours were less repetitive, don't you think?
I think 2001 setlist is peak, just because STP, junkie doll and SaN, but 1996 in terms of guitar chops is totally peak for me.
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Being a long time fan I did a long journey to witness the Privatering Tour as early as possible and I caught him in Turino, 5th or something show of the tour.
I was there on my seat and during that song I suddenly wondered why I was doing this and get him performing that kind of stuff?
Something had changed in me and it was a very bad feeling.
The very same happened to me when MK changed his drummer in 2011. I felt that all the energy that I liked in Mark's music vanished from that point, both live and on the records.
I went back to see them in 2019 because it was obviously the last tour and I wanted to give a proper goodbye to the man who, through his music, played such a big part in my life.
But yeah, same as ds1984, "something had changed in me and it was a very bad feeling". Today I barely listen to Mark's music, which is sad too considering the fact that I had been in love with it for decades. I hadn't came here for ages either, so hello to you, die hard fans!
The 1996 setlist was phenomenal, I don't think he had done better before and since. The 2006 was also exceptional, as the tour itself.
Considering MK's piece of work, it's a pity that all the other solo tours had such repetitive songs, especially during the second half of the show, they could've done sooo much better in my opinion. The DS tours were less repetitive, don't you think?
For me it was also the drummer change. Songs like Hill Farmer's Blues, R&J or Speedway lost power. Ianto is a great drummer, but he doesn't really fit with MK's music the same way Chad and Danny did.
On the other hand, while I keep listening to his solo stuff every day, I've pretty much stopped with DS music.
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I think 2001 setlist is peak, just because STP, junkie doll and SaN, but 1996 in terms of guitar chops is totally peak for me.
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For example on Set List.com they have 'Calling Elvis' performed fewer times than we played shows. Maybe some of the videos or audio don't start from the beginning of the show, or end before the last encore?
also, Setlist is based on user input as well, which is why oddities (others may call them mistakes) pop up in those DS shows, as they do with gazillions of other artists.
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Of course I remember that 2008 was a bit of an exception as he performed more tracks from TRD than KTGC itself.
I remember meeting you for the first time at The Heineken, ds1984, and we both agreed that this was really TRD tour. ;)
aaah,...heineken music hall in 2008....good times..
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I think 2001 setlist is peak, just because STP, junkie doll and SaN, but 1996 in terms of guitar chops is totally peak for me.
A pro recording from the GH tour, mixed by Guy now, would have been amazing. Mark at his peak guitarwise. Plus he had an energy and freshness to him at the time.
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I think 2001 setlist is peak, just because STP, junkie doll and SaN, but 1996 in terms of guitar chops is totally peak for me.
....mixed by Guy now...
... or someone else with a lot of experience in doing this stuff. Imagine Chuck would get his hands (and ears) on it.. :o
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I think 2001 setlist is peak, just because STP, junkie doll and SaN, but 1996 in terms of guitar chops is totally peak for me.
A pro recording from the GH tour, mixed by Guy now, would have been amazing. Mark at his peak guitarwise. Plus he had an energy and freshness to him at the time.
I would rather have the Madrid STP 2001 audio as an official release, thankfully we've plenty of 1996 SB stuff