A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: JF on July 22, 2025, 10:48:53 AM
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Just for info, I received this morning a mail from my contact at Universal France about a release of STP on 26th september
its says : "Mark Knopfler's second album is reissued on transparent vinyl for the first time on the occasion of its 25th anniversary."
the track listing is the standard one with only 13 tracks : One more matinee, but no Do America
so, I'm afraid there will be no additionnal stuff...
I hope I'm wrong...
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Are they trying to squish is down to one record? That will sound pretty horrible.
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Why won't they release a concert from this tour? I don't understand ???
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Just for info, I received this morning a mail from my contact at Universal France about a release of STP on 26th september
its says : "Mark Knopfler's second album is reissued on transparent vinyl for the first time on the occasion of its 25th anniversary."
the track listing is the standard one with only 13 tracks : One more matinee, but no Do America
so, I'm afraid there will be no additionnal stuff...
I hope I'm wrong...
Well, that's what we were used to, before someone got crazy and released the latest boxes... but makes sense they don't offer anything but resell the same under different wraps.
I also hope you are wrong.
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Are they trying to squish is down to one record? That will sound pretty horrible.
I forgot to mention, t's a 2LP edition :
Tracklist
2LP
Side A
1. What It Is
2. Sailing to Philadelphia
3. Who's Your Baby Now
Side B
4. Baloney Again
5. The Last Laugh
6. Silvertown Blues
Side C
7. El Macho
8. Prairie Wedding
9. Wanderlust
Side D
10. Speedway at Nazareth
11. Junkie Doll
12. Sands of Nevada
13. One More Matinee
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Are they trying to squish is down to one record? That will sound pretty horrible.
I forgot to mention, t's a 2LP edition :
Tracklist
2LP
Side A
1. What It Is
2. Sailing to Philadelphia
3. Who's Your Baby Now
Side B
4. Baloney Again
5. The Last Laugh
6. Silvertown Blues
Side C
7. El Macho
8. Prairie Wedding
9. Wanderlust
Side D
10. Speedway at Nazareth
11. Junkie Doll
12. Sands of Nevada
13. One More Matinee
Thanks for the information.
I guess that would be it, if there would be something else, probably your contact would know.
After being released in the studio box, the fact that it has a transparent vinyl is not enough for me, and as a 25th anniversary is too little. But I guess some of you would be happy with it.
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I guess that would be it, if there would be something else, probably your contact would know.
Yes, that's what I thought too. That's why I'm not optimistic.
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I guess that would be it, if there would be something else, probably your contact would know.
Yes, that's what I thought too. That's why I'm not optimistic.
It would be a big missing opportunity, indeed.
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Are they trying to squish is down to one record? That will sound pretty horrible.
I forgot to mention, t's a 2LP edition :
Tracklist
2LP
Side A
1. What It Is
2. Sailing to Philadelphia
3. Who's Your Baby Now
Side B
4. Baloney Again
5. The Last Laugh
6. Silvertown Blues
Side C
7. El Macho
8. Prairie Wedding
9. Wanderlust
Side D
10. Speedway at Nazareth
11. Junkie Doll
12. Sands of Nevada
13. One More Matinee
Thanks. Makes no sense to not have Do America then.
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Remember that Guy is involved in the project.
This is only a part of the plan.
I am still a little bit optimistic that Universal will put out some previously unreleased live stuff other than Dire Straits, I mean solo and NHB.
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Remember that Guy is involved in the project.
This is only a part of the plan.
I am still a little bit optimistic that Universal will put out some previously unreleased live stuff other than Dire Straits, I mean solo and NHB.
I hope so too :)
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Another supplier states all 14 tracks:
Mark Knopfler 2LP Colour Vinyl / LP1
# Title
1 What It Is
2 Sailing To Philadelphia
3 Who's Your Baby Now
# Title
1 Baloney Again
2 The Last Laugh
3 Do America
4 Silvertown Blues
Mark Knopfler 2LP Colour Vinyl / LP2
# Title
1 El Macho
2 Prairie Wedding
3 Wanderlust
# Title
1 Speedway At Nazareth
2 Junkie Doll
3 Sands Of Nevada
4 One More Matinee
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Atmos Bluray preorder again available from SDE
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Atmos Bluray preorder again available from SDE
https://www.thesdeshop.com/collections/mark-knopfler
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I guess there won't be anything more :(
https://shop.markknopfler.com/product-category/sailing-to-philadelphia-25/
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Yes with instrumental version also.
I have the double vinyl from the vinyl Box, clear looks good but is not enough to buy it again.
LE
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exactly. all tracks will be on it. also, the instrumental versions
i ordered the bundle.
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If they at least would have produced a gategold for the jubilee Edition. So it's just meh. Dolby atmos will be something nice to have though if you have the fitting equipment.
LE
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STP had a very good EPK which was very nicely done. Would have been great to have that as DVD or so. And no new liner notes apparently?
LE
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Isn't it weird there is no a cd version... Just the 2lp and the Blu-ray?
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If I understand correctly, where is the CD version?
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If I understand correctly, where is the CD version?
Exactly.
Only LP and Blu-ray
https://www.thesdeshop.com/collections/mark-knopfler
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Is clear vinyl even remotely exciting?? Genuine question (and I can’t think of a reason why I’d buy this!).
If they’d added a mixed gig then great, but without then I suspect this might lose money based on sales versus cost of creating and minimal advertising!
What’s next - in 2032, the ragpicker’s dream 30th anniversary special featuring a rare live show from the tour (2 hour Blu-ray of total silence).
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I ordered the blu-ray - https://www.thesdeshop.com/products/45-in-the-sde-surround-series-mark-knopfler-sailing-to-philadelphia-limited-edition-blu-ray-audio-copy
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Coloured vinyl is aimed to a younger new-to-vinyl audience and to collectors, plus it's the first time stand-alone release of MK's best and most successful solo album, so it's nice to have. If I had not have to box already it would be exciting news for me. I have no atmos equipment so that one will pass, but maybe it will become a thing in the next time and it is just Guy's prefered theme. Atmos is his middle name.
LE
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Even I have to admit…this is a bit disappointing given what we’ve had in recent years with the likes of DS Live and the BIA 40th set. And with a track missing from the vinyl too. It seems to me that someone hasn’t thought this through. I suppose it’s possible that the reason no live album is included is because there could be a solo live box set on the way at some point.
As with One Deep River and BIA, I might buy the Blu-ray Atmos edition even though I don’t yet have a means of listening to them (hopefully that will change at some point) but I won’t be bothering with the vinyl.
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Even I have to admit…this is a bit disappointing given what we’ve had in recent years with the likes of DS Live and the BIA 40th set. And with a track missing from the vinyl too. It seems to me that someone hasn’t thought this through. I suppose it’s possible that the reason no live album is included is because there could be a solo live box set on the way at some point.
As with One Deep River and BIA, I might buy the Blu-ray Atmos edition even though I don’t yet have a means of listening to them (hopefully that will change at some point) but I won’t be bothering with the vinyl.
I have it announced from Bravado and they say 14 tracks, so no track missing. Also the SDE Shop says 14 tracks so where does it come from that a track would be missing?
LE
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I know this is reality now; only anniversary editions, on vinyl, and Atmos versions few can listen to yet. Coloured vinyl is a collectors item, I get that, but...I waited weeks for the BiA anniversairy cd's, only to read the liner notes and that's it. Haven't used the cds a single time yet. I might sell it some years from now, IF anyone bothers to buy... The inner, spoiled child in me is screaming I WANT MORE. More old concert recordings, more behind the scenes, more merch that looks good (don't get me started on the layout on the merch on MK.com :disbelief )
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Even I have to admit…this is a bit disappointing given what we’ve had in recent years with the likes of DS Live and the BIA 40th set. And with a track missing from the vinyl too. It seems to me that someone hasn’t thought this through. I suppose it’s possible that the reason no live album is included is because there could be a solo live box set on the way at some point.
As with One Deep River and BIA, I might buy the Blu-ray Atmos edition even though I don’t yet have a means of listening to them (hopefully that will change at some point) but I won’t be bothering with the vinyl.
I have it announced from Bravado and they say 14 tracks, so no track missing. Also the SDE Shop says 14 tracks so where does it come from that a track would be missing?
LE
Sorry, yes. Just checked the Sound of Vinyl site and seen that it does in fact include all fourteen tracks.
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Even I have to admit…this is a bit disappointing given what we’ve had in recent years with the likes of DS Live and the BIA 40th set. And with a track missing from the vinyl too. It seems to me that someone hasn’t thought this through. I suppose it’s possible that the reason no live album is included is because there could be a solo live box set on the way at some point.
As with One Deep River and BIA, I might buy the Blu-ray Atmos edition even though I don’t yet have a means of listening to them (hopefully that will change at some point) but I won’t be bothering with the vinyl.
I have it announced from Bravado and they say 14 tracks, so no track missing. Also the SDE Shop says 14 tracks so where does it come from that a track would be missing?
LE
Sorry, yes. Just checked the Sound of Vinyl site and seen that it does in fact include all fourteen tracks.
Yes, I guess they just used the vinyl mix from the Box.
LE
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If I understand correctly, where is the CD version?
Exactly.
Only LP and Blu-ray
https://www.thesdeshop.com/collections/mark-knopfler
That's strange. Maybe the CD version will have a concert, but they can't release that information yet. I want to believe.
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Dream on. Where would be the unique selling point of a CD? The vinyl edition is the first stand-alone release of the album and the atmos Mix is new. I am sure you have the CD already? I guess this is what we get.
LE
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It's really strange not to include a CD with a live performance from 2001... it would have been perfect, as was done for the Brothers in Arms 40th anniversary. A missed opportunity! :disbelief
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Very strange not to include a CD with a live 2001...it would have been perfect as the Brothers in Arms 40th anniversary release. Missed opportunity! :disbelief
Exactly!
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Well, they are celebrating the 25th anniversary of a record for which they recorded 29 songs and recorded five concerts...
Logical say that a 25th anniversary should be just the same record with transparent vinyls and, as we are in 2025, let's do an Atmos mix and release a Blu-ray!
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Bruce Springsteen would do it differently :D
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Ridiculous. Only a fool would waste their money buying these re-releases that add nothing to the consumer.
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Ridiculous. Only a fool would waste their money buying these re-releases that add nothing to the consumer.
:thumbsup
Or if this isn't your thing you could invest in a nice Boswell guitar. Yet another rare limited edition.
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It's a shame that there will be no live recordings as a bonus.
Many fans think that this is his best solo album.
And the tour was great. And there were plenty of recordings...
I guess a lot of fans already have bought the solo box sets, anyway.
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As the Age of New Releases is over, we now witness the age of Keep The Catalogue Alive. There are a lot of releases the last couple of years which always never make the "fans" happy, but it's good that they are there. STP on vinyl should be available, now it is visible. I go for ATRR at Record Store Day 2026, and it will go on. New and unreleased stuff not so much...
LE
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I will skip this release. I was really hoping for a live release as bonus or unreleased songs.
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I will skip this release. I was really hoping for a live release as bonus or unreleased songs.
Same here!
A live release of this great tour would had been a dream come true for me. But now nothing but disappiontment. :-\
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Ridiculous. Only a fool would waste their money buying these re-releases that add nothing to the consumer.
:thumbsup
Or if this isn't your thing you could invest in a nice Boswell guitar. Yet another rare limited edition.
Or a set of used string set forged as a bracelet LOL
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Another missed opportunity :disbelief
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The bracelet! Need to dig out that one :) :D But seriously, I thought it was a nice idea. Unlike the horrible old posters on the website, and t-shirts of the latest tours.
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Another missed opportunity :disbelief
LOL!
Beware that we can return to that endless discussion about how bad is MK management and MK related products.
Because next MK release will be a blown up radio.
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Bruce Springsteen would do it differently :D
Sometimes I dream of a world where Mark releases even half of what Bruce does, both live shows and unheard studio stuff. It would be wonderful.
Aside from the rather odd choice of no live material, why not at least include the B-sides (Let’s See You, Camerado, Long Highway etc.)?
Come to think of it, if Guy is remixing from the original tracks, wouldn’t this be the perfect time to put out all those unreleased songs from the STP sessions? I haven’t decided yet whether I’m buying this or not, but if they had included Two Skinny Kids then I wouldn’t be able to give them my money fast enough!
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Also, I get the distinct feeling that this release will probably put paid to the chances of anything else being released this year, such as the fabled Henrik Hansen documentary and any accompanying live album / set. We’ve had the excellent Brothers in Arms 40th with the San Antonio recording this year and I’m grateful for that…but it’s hard not to feel a little downhearted with the announcement of this rather limited STP reissue. I still hold out some small hope that we might one day see a live box set of recordings from Mark’s solo career but this reissue doesn’t exactly inspire confidence!
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Bruce Springsteen would do it differently :D
Sometimes I dream of a world where Mark releases even half of what Bruce does, both live shows and unheard studio stuff. It would be wonderful.
Aside from the rather odd choice of no live material, why not at least include the B-sides (Let’s See You, Camerado, Long Highway etc.)?
Come to think of it, if Guy is remixing from the original tracks, wouldn’t this be the perfect time to put out all those unreleased songs from the STP sessions? I haven’t decided yet whether I’m buying this or not, but if they had included Two Skinny Kids then I wouldn’t be able to give them my money fast enough!
Exactly, Two Skinny Kids is the Holy Grail for me, just to be teased by the not great live recording is not enough, I bet the studio recording is great.
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A lot of negativity here, yes I would have liked more and I already own the record so don't care about that, but the Atmos/instrumental is nice to have so that's good.
Incidentally, the blu-ray of ODR appeared to be available on the SDE website yesterday.
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Disappointing release
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Bruce Springsteen would do it differently :D
Sometimes I dream of a world where Mark releases even half of what Bruce does, both live shows and unheard studio stuff. It would be wonderful.
Aside from the rather odd choice of no live material, why not at least include the B-sides (Let’s See You, Camerado, Long Highway etc.)?
Come to think of it, if Guy is remixing from the original tracks, wouldn’t this be the perfect time to put out all those unreleased songs from the STP sessions? I haven’t decided yet whether I’m buying this or not, but if they had included Two Skinny Kids then I wouldn’t be able to give them my money fast enough!
Exactly, Two Skinny Kids is the Holy Grail for me, just to be teased by the not great live recording is not enough, I bet the studio recording is great.
I wonder why Mark "hid" the songs "Two Skinny Kids" and "It's Been a While"? Why he only played them once in Nashville in June 1998.
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Disappointing release
Exactly this.. :( Seems like they are gonna milk every album now with those Blu-ray Atmos and instrumental mixes... woohoo :(
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This is purely a financial decision against a challenging backdrop in Mark's solo albums sales. It is not related in any way to the show’s performance, content or other matters happening at Universal :P
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A lot of negativity here, yes I would have liked more and I already own the record so don't care about that, but the Atmos/instrumental is nice to have so that's good.
Incidentally, the blu-ray of ODR appeared to be available on the SDE website yesterday.
Yes I saw that, too.
I agree with you and that's what I meant with the catalogue thing. We will see more re-releases in the future and as long as they keep it fresh, it's all good. I mean, last year had a LOT of new stuff, this year San Antonio, and we are still greedy and never can't get enough.
LE
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Come on, a vinyl / BR only re release can't be sactisfatory when there is so much other things in the vault.
Who will buy that stuff, collectors and MK die hard fan. Good for them.
I wonder if it is Mark's grumpy decision not to allow unreleased stuff for that album, or worse, if this just the market that will not make a more ambitious release to be profitable. I fear the later being the right answer.
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Disappointing release
Exactly this.. :( Seems like they are gonna milk every album now with those Blu-ray Atmos and instrumental mixes... woohoo :(
Remember the CD thing with BIA? Guy seems to be the driving force behind this Atmos releases and I think it's a good sign to carry Mark's legacy into a new promising format and be one of the first artists to be connected with atmos mixes. Mark was always thinking this way about techical development. He was also very early when in 2007 he re-started or give more attention to vinyl releases again, way before the vinyl boom got the attention it has nowadays.
LE
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Come on, a vinyl / BR only re release can't be sactisfatory when there is so much other things in the vault.
Who will buy that stuff, collectors and MK die hard fan. Good for them.
I wonder if it is Mark's grumpy decision not to allow unreleased stuff for that album, or worse, if this just the market that will not make a more ambitious release to be profitable. I fear the later being the right answer.
All this talk about unreleased stuff. Maybe there isn't any? Talking about the 29 stp songs, maybe they are worked in and used for later releases? If there is stuff, maybe it's just not GOOD enough?
I never understood the demand for the Madrid DVD either. Such a bad stage view, the band looking like dressed in rags, Mark's vocals really bad, nothing that would ever add a visual value to anything... I mean if any, the 2008 Show had a good stage design and a good setlist, but Madrid 2001really never should leave the vaults really...
LE
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I don't care about the outtakes that much, there's probably a good reason Mark put them aside. I would love the Madrid DVD, but it's never going to happen, which is fine with me too. However, I really can't understand why they wouldn't include the Toronto show. The only good reason would be that the recording is missing, any other excuse makes no sense. I would have bought this release 100% with a live show. Now I see no reason to buy it since I don't have the gear to play Atmos. A real shame since STP remains his best solo album. I never get bored with it, and there's no record I've listened to more than STP.
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A lot of negativity here, yes I would have liked more and I already own the record so don't care about that, but the Atmos/instrumental is nice to have so that's good.
Incidentally, the blu-ray of ODR appeared to be available on the SDE website yesterday.
It's just that STP happens to be the MK solo record with more possibilities for a real treat of a 25th anniversary box, yes, too high expectations, so high dissapoinment.
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Do I remember correctly that the album Shangri-La won the ranking here on the forum? 🙂
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I will skip buying STP because it has never been one of my favourite albums. True, there are some beautiful songs on the album, but they are outnumbered by those songs that do nothing for me. Also I don't have the means to play ATMOS and I don't really want coloured vinyl.
@ Robson. You are correct - Shangri-La did win the forum vote! :thumbsup
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I will skip buying STP because it has never been one of my favourite albums. True, there are some beautiful songs on the album, but they are outnumbered by those songs that do nothing for me. Also I don't have the means to play ATMOS and I don't really want coloured vinyl.
@ Robson. You are correct - Shangri-La did win the forum vote! :thumbsup
I don't have the means to play either LP's or Atmos, and I think I am probably in the majority. Hell, I don't even know what Atmos is except some fancy sound, which is completely unnecessary and merely a gimmick to be superseded by another in a few years. First it was Dolby Surround Sound, then Pro Logic, DTS... It's just a scam.
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I will skip buying STP because it has never been one of my favourite albums. True, there are some beautiful songs on the album, but they are outnumbered by those songs that do nothing for me. Also I don't have the means to play ATMOS and I don't really want coloured vinyl.
@ Robson. You are correct - Shangri-La did win the forum vote! :thumbsup
I don't have the means to play either LP's or Atmos, and I think I am probably in the majority. Hell, I don't even know what Atmos is except some fancy sound, which is completely unnecessary and merely a gimmick to be superseded by another in a few years. First it was Dolby Surround Sound, then Pro Logic, DTS... It's just a scam.
Atmos is a very different pair of shoes than those you mentioned. Those are indeed gimmicks. Atmos is a modular and flexible way to adapt surround sound to your speaker configuration, and to approach spherical sound, the real sound your ears capture, unlike 5. 1 or 7.1 which are quite artificial. I think Atmos is here to stay.
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I will skip buying STP because it has never been one of my favourite albums. True, there are some beautiful songs on the album, but they are outnumbered by those songs that do nothing for me. Also I don't have the means to play ATMOS and I don't really want coloured vinyl.
@ Robson. You are correct - Shangri-La did win the forum vote! :thumbsup
I don't have the means to play either LP's or Atmos, and I think I am probably in the majority. Hell, I don't even know what Atmos is except some fancy sound, which is completely unnecessary and merely a gimmick to be superseded by another in a few years. First it was Dolby Surround Sound, then Pro Logic, DTS... It's just a scam.
Atmos is a very different pair of shoes than those you mentioned. Those are indeed gimmicks. Atmos is a modular and flexible way to adapt surround sound to your speaker configuration, and to approach spherical sound, the real sound your ears capture, unlike 5. 1 or 7.1 which are quite artificial. I think Atmos is here to stay.
That's what we all thought about 5.1 at the time. I think Guy must be on commission!
It is indeed ironic the LP is transparent. They could ship an empty box because when it comes to proper extras, there's nothing there to see.
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Do I remember correctly that the album Shangri-La won the ranking here on the forum? 🙂
But SL did less good that STP.
And WII sounds like so early Dire Straits
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Do I remember correctly that the album Shangri-La won the ranking here on the forum? 🙂
But SL did less good that STP.
And WII sounds like so early Dire Straits
I checked and apparently STP won by 2 votes. SL was second favourite. ::)
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At some point i hope we will get some kind off live album like DS. Mark Knopfler live 1996-2019..... :think
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At some point i hope we will get some kind off live album like DS. Mark Knopfler live 1996-2019..... :think
That’s what I’m hoping will eventually happen. Though to stretch across Mark’s entire live career as a solo artist, it would probably have to be released across more than one volume. The one positive thing about the lack of live extras on the STP reissue is that we might possibly see a live album from the tour included on such a box set release at some time in the future.
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At some point i hope we will get some kind off live album like DS. Mark Knopfler live 1996-2019..... :think
the difference with DS years is that most of MK solo tours have been avalaible via download/USB. So I'm not sure record company will release some stuff that is already officially avalaible, even if it's not physical.
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In other news, do not want to start a new topic for this, John Illsley has released new tourdates. He will play four concerts in the Netherlands in december.
https://www.podiuminfo.nl/news/56934/Vier-exclusieve-Nederlandse-shows-voor-Dire-Straits-bassist-John-Illsley/
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At some point i hope we will get some kind off live album like DS. Mark Knopfler live 1996-2019..... :think
the difference with DS years is that most of MK solo tours have been avalaible via download/USB. So I'm not sure record company will release some stuff that is already officially avalaible, even if it's not physical.
True, though the tours prior to 2005 still don’t have official long-form releases other than A Night in London from 1996. The Kill to Get Crimson tour is also lacking any kind of official representation. We can only hope that the gaps will one day be plugged as is gradually happening with the DS catalogue now.
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In other news, do not want to start a new topic for this, John Illsley has released new tourdates. He will play four concerts in the Netherlands in december.
https://www.podiuminfo.nl/news/56934/Vier-exclusieve-Nederlandse-shows-voor-Dire-Straits-bassist-John-Illsley/
Just found this too:
John Illsley, bass player of Dire Straits, will do a live Q & A all about his band at the Stroud Sub Rooms in November.
Dire Straits - who were mainly active in the 80s and the first half of the 90s and who are also in the rock and roll hall of fame - sold more than 30 million copies of their 1985 album Brothers in Arms.
Illsley will be interviewed by the band's former co-manager and he will also perform other classic hits from the group.
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Actually it's a full tour of sorts:
https://www.johnillsleymusic.com/tour
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Actually it's a full tour of sorts:
https://www.johnillsleymusic.com/tour
Notinhg on his website about dates outside the UK.
I expect him also to play some concerts in Germany France and Belgium??
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In other news, do not want to start a new topic for this, John Illsley has released new tourdates. He will play four concerts in the Netherlands in december.
https://www.podiuminfo.nl/news/56934/Vier-exclusieve-Nederlandse-shows-voor-Dire-Straits-bassist-John-Illsley/
And this is related to the 25th anniversary of STP how exactly? :lol
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Do America is on the vynil, as far as I'm concerned, but there's no point buying that album again. no outtakes, no live tracks, why bother. and I'm also not a vynil aficcionado...!!!
Just for info, I received this morning a mail from my contact at Universal France about a release of STP on 26th september
its says : "Mark Knopfler's second album is reissued on transparent vinyl for the first time on the occasion of its 25th anniversary."
the track listing is the standard one with only 13 tracks : One more matinee, but no Do America
so, I'm afraid there will be no additionnal stuff...
I hope I'm wrong...
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This whole anniversay business is just funny. I get making a deal of milestone albums such as BIA, but STP?
And by the way, Do America ... There's a filler if there ever was one :thumbsdown
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Why not? Good reason for a re-issue.
LE
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Can we expect Golden Heart again in 2026? ;)
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Can we expect Golden Heart again in 2026? ;)
As it is the only one of Mark’s albums I don’t have on vinyl, I was hoping there might be a 20th anniversary reissue of All the Roadrunning in 2026, perhaps for Record Store Day as it is normally in April, and that is the month in which the album was originally released, so it would make sense.