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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: allen on December 16, 2009, 01:36:19 PM

Title: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: allen on December 16, 2009, 01:36:19 PM
Setlist that night:

Down to the waterline
Six blade knife
Once upon a time in the west
Lady writer
Water of love
In the gallery
News
What
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: GennT on December 16, 2009, 02:30:51 PM
So good to have a pic from this one.
I have the bootleg from this gig,It is so perfect.A must have for everyone
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: Ingo on December 16, 2009, 03:11:19 PM
Hm, I have a few pictures (from the web) which I though to be from the Old Waldorf gig, but Mark is wearing different clothes there (a red shirt). I have seen pics with this shirt before, too.

Well, I think they played two gigs a night there so both can be right of course.

You are brilliant in finding "new" old pictures it seems :)
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: Ingo on December 16, 2009, 03:15:18 PM
A bit better in quality, and you might see the amp settings...

Where is it from, maybe it exists in better resolution?
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: JeroenvG on December 16, 2009, 03:39:29 PM
You can find the image at http://www.corbisimages.com but the strange thing is that they say the picture is from 1 april 1979.

@ingo you can buy a better quality image at 2470px
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: allen on December 17, 2009, 02:47:58 AM
You can find the image at http://www.corbisimages.com but the strange thing is that they say the picture is from 1 april 1979.

Maybe that's because the second half of the latter show lasted after 00:00 on April 1st.  :-)

But who's the extra drummer here?  And is David sharing a mic with John?
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: dmg on December 17, 2009, 10:20:34 AM
John usually stood to the left of Mark, perhaps this is two images merged as is often done with a medium format camera that shoots 6x6 or square images.  This would explain the "two" drum kits.  Doesn't explain why David is there though, unless maybe he had a technical problem with his mic.
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: boboDS on December 17, 2009, 12:16:09 PM
2 images merged together?
Looks like the left drummer is blad and maybe has a beard.
And is that even David? Looks like that guy has blond hair...?
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: Ingo on December 17, 2009, 03:58:00 PM
Arrgs, I registered at Corbis and really was willing to pay to get the picture in high resolution, but they want 70,-
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: dmg on December 17, 2009, 04:10:46 PM
2 images merged together?
Looks like the left drummer is blad and maybe has a beard.
And is that even David? Looks like that guy has blond hair...?
D'oh!  Of course it's not.  I just read David above it and quite often for panoramic shots a photographer will merge 2 images. 
Well it was early and I was rushing to go to work!
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: allen on December 18, 2009, 03:44:44 AM
Ingo, more info about the support act part?    :P :P :P
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: boboDS on December 18, 2009, 11:16:15 AM
To that other picture: They are obviously jamming with the support act, something they often did during the encores.

I see, kinda surprising to me.
Then how come (if my memory serves right) it isn't captured on any early bootlegs?
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: Pottel on December 18, 2009, 05:32:54 PM
i was thinking the exact same thing bobo!
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: Ingo on December 18, 2009, 06:46:02 PM
OK, maybe 'often' is not the best word here. I have no idea how often they jammed with a support act.

At least, on these pictures it was Barooga Bandit:
http://www.motorcityrock.com/bands/barooga_bandit/barooga_bandit.html

I know that they also did a jam with Ian Gomm on  the September '79 US tour.

Maybe they did not do a jam when they recorded the show for the radio like March 31, 1979, but the pics here are from the next day April 1 (according to Corbis), but you are right, I don't know of a bootleg on which we hear them doing this.



Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: JeroenvG on December 18, 2009, 09:22:01 PM
At least, on these pictures it was Barooga Bandit:
http://www.motorcityrock.com/bands/barooga_bandit/barooga_bandit.html

So we are missing a bootleg from april 1st? Should be cool to hear this. Always thought march 31st was the only date in Old Waldorf.
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: boboDS on December 19, 2009, 12:39:07 AM
OK, maybe 'often' is not the best word here. I have no idea how often they jammed with a support act.

At least, on these pictures it was Barooga Bandit:
http://www.motorcityrock.com/bands/barooga_bandit/barooga_bandit.html

I know that they also did a jam with Ian Gomm on  the September '79 US tour.

Maybe they did not do a jam when they recorded the show for the radio like March 31, 1979, but the pics here are from the next day April 1 (according to Corbis), but you are right, I don't know of a bootleg on which we hear them doing this.

Interesting, I had the impression that MK wouldn't have been too eager to do something like this.

It still would be very interesting to hear one of these "jams".

There was a chapter in Palmers' book about Gomm I think, gotta reread that.
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: peterromer on July 03, 2010, 10:32:42 PM
Can someone clarify why this thread is sticky ?
(just wondering)  ;)
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: Simon on July 03, 2010, 11:51:59 PM
Something odd here. That's not Pick on drums either. Did I miss something?
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: localhero1986 on July 19, 2010, 10:57:54 AM
Strangeeeeeeeee, mysterious stuff there! Have to say the pictures are heavily overpriced... I've vinyl bootleg from one of the shows of that tour (Philadelphia), for the DS fanclub of Hamburg.
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: Dutchessy on July 21, 2010, 08:28:38 PM
Strangeeeeeeeee, mysterious stuff there! Have to say the pictures are heavily overpriced... I've vinyl bootleg from one of the shows of that tour (Philadelphia), for the DS fanclub of Hamburg.

I think they play done with bonaparte on that picture ;)
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: Hoops McCann on January 29, 2011, 07:46:24 PM
You can find the image at http://www.corbisimages.com but the strange thing is that they say the picture is from 1 april 1979.

Maybe that's because the second half of the latter show lasted after 00:00 on April 1st.  :-)

But who's the extra drummer here?  And is David sharing a mic with John?

I received the following email today from someone who seems to want to remain anonymous:

Quote
I joined just to make a comment about a picture from the 1979 Dire straits concert, someone asked who the second drummer is- it's a guy named Franz DeRaad, he played with Barooga/Barooga Bandit, is from my home town and that pic showed up on my Facebook homepage,

(Also mentioned by Ingo here (http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=977.msg17390#msg17390).)
Title: Re: A pic from 1979-03-31 Old Waldorf, San Francisco, USA
Post by: JeroenvG on January 30, 2011, 09:33:47 AM
Look at this poster:

(http://www.motorcityrock.com/bands/barooga_bandit/flyers/barooga_bandit_7903_ad.jpg)

and another date 09-march-1979?

http://www.motorcityrock.com/bands/barooga_bandit/barooga_bandit.html (http://www.motorcityrock.com/bands/barooga_bandit/barooga_bandit.html)

sorry to bring this up again but if the 31-march-1979 show was a soundboard, you can think that the other dates were soundboard recorded maybe too?

At least we van listen to 31 march here: http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/dire-straits/concerts/old-waldorf-march-31-1979.html (http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/dire-straits/concerts/old-waldorf-march-31-1979.html)