A Mark In Time
Previous Tours => 2010 Get Lucky Tour => Topic started by: dustyvalentino on May 30, 2010, 10:13:54 PM
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Just had an email from our Chairman Pottel, seems Paul Crockford has confirmed that recordings from the current tour are to be made available via Simfy:
Going by their site it seems recordings come in MP3 320 kbps, some will complain but that is good enough for me.
Other artists have MP3s available on CD or USB for
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OK, future shows are up already as a pre-order!
http://simfylive.com/en/artist/3272/Mark-Knopfler.html
Says you can buy them at the venue on USB or download later. It's showing
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Yeeeehaaaa!:D:D:D I love this! F&@*#@KIN AWESOME!
I LOVE YOU MARK!! ;D ;D
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All shows or just a small part?
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Awesome news, can't wait!
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All shows or just a small part?
"Only" the European shows after RAH up so far for pre-order, but that's still 28 soundboard recordings!
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Great news, even though not as good as it there was a Blu-Ray or even a double CD..
Couple of questions, if anybody know the answers:
1/I guess, looking at the site, that there are no stupid restrictions, like Passalong used to have, on which countries you can download from ?
2/I really hope this time there won't be bloody DRMs on the files that prevent you to use them on a Ipod ? Unlike Passalong ? the site mentions such DRM in some cases...
3/Are they really soundboard recordings, i.e. given by GF ? The site mentions their professional studio team to make the recordings... in that cas that would be quality audience recording rather than soundboard !! hope not.
4/The pre-orders starts at June 6th concerts; but Pottel mentionned starting from tonight's show at RAH ? What shows exacly will be available ? all of them in retrospect ? or starting tonight ?
5/Will the shows be available right after the concert on USB, i.e. after the show you wait, queue, pay, and get the USB key of your very concert, still hot ? or do you only get USB keys for previous concerts ?
Thanks if somebody can answer !
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I found only 24 items from 2010/06/06 Merksem (Antwerp) to 2010/07/04 Budapest on the web, http://simfylive.com/en/artist/3272/live-recordings/Mark-Knopfler.html Where're the RAH download or pre-order links?
Wishes
Allen
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One more question, I think GF said on his forum that previous tour recordings were not te be issued.
Nonetheless, it would be very easy for them:
1/To re-release the 2005 digital downloads, now that Passalong went bust and that they are nowhere to be found officially,
2/To release the 2008 concerts that GF said were recorded,
3/Let's dream, to release the video of "An evening with MK" (Hurlingham 2009) which is very sweet, even if not a full live concert, and is only available on "Pay per view" on I-concerts or some telecom operators services...
What do you guys think ?
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Indeed! With cannibals and all those other great songs!
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I was not thinking of Cannibals, which reminds me of WOL, which is the only MK song I hate, because it was overcommercialized, and part of the reason why I could never get some friends of mine, big Pink Floyd fans, to consider listening to MK :)
Neither was I was thinking of TLWNF or TFATB (not the best songs from KTGC...)
I was thinking especially of:
-Postcards from Paraguay, another highlight of 2008, sadly missing this year, and the only song from Shangri-La which I really love,
-Devil's baby played only in Amsterdam
-Secondary Waltz only played in Edinbourg
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One more question, I think GF said on his forum that previous tour recordings were not te be issued.
Nonetheless, it would be very easy for them:
1/To re-release the 2005 digital downloads, now that Passalong went bust and that they are nowhere to be found officially,
2/To release the 2008 concerts that GF said were recorded,
3/Let's dream, to release the video of "An evening with MK" (Hurlingham 2009) which is very sweet, even if not a full live concert, and is only available on "Pay per view" on I-concerts or some telecom operators services...
What do you guys think ?
Hurlingham was broadcast on TV and is available in DVD quality on the tracker, so I don't need an official release of that.
But 2005 in 320kbps quality would be good, and any soundboard from 2008 would be nice too.
My memory is hazy, wasn't Secondary Waltz played at Newcastle in 2008 as well? They definitley soundchecked it, I heard it as I was waiting to go into the Meet and Greet. :)
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Devil Baby will be great too, I was at that gig!
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Great news indeed BUT... I just clicked on one of the future concerts to see the details and I can see one dissapointing message there: "Sorry, but this concert cannot be purchased in your country"
Are we going to have the same story as with Passalong concerts? :-[
One could hope that this will not happen again. Hope this is too soon to be dissapointed and they will resolve this issue.
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see my comment on the past shows in the RAH thread :-)
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I know about past shows. I meant the future shows - it looks like at the moment I'm not even able to preorder anything because the "concert cannot be purchased in your country". I remember Passalong gigs were not available to purchase in some countries, so I hope this will not be an issue again.
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I know about past shows. I meant the future shows - it looks like at the moment I'm not even able to preorder anything because the "concert cannot be purchased in your country". I remember Passalong gigs were not available to purchase in some countries, so I hope this will not be an issue again.
Great point. Being on a Mac I couldn't get the passalong recordings either.
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Great news indeed BUT... I just clicked on one of the future concerts to see the details and I can see one dissapointing message there: "Sorry, but this concert cannot be purchased in your country"
Are we going to have the same story as with Passalong concerts? :-[
One could hope that this will not happen again. Hope this is too soon to be dissapointed and they will resolve this issue.
Which country to you live in ? I'm in France, I did not go through the full process but I've been up to the form to enter my credit card number with no problem. "Country" was automatically set to France, and the choose box seems to have a preferred country list (UK, Germany, France, US, Canada, and a few others) but also below, a list of all countries in the world, starting with Afghanistan, so I would imagine they are available through the world ??
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These are MP3 so will play on a MAC.
Most silly if they aren't available everywhere, let's wait and see. Kooba, what happens if you try to download some of the stuff that's already up there, like Elton John or Kiss?
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It seems it is going to work for me. And if it works in my country, it has to work at least on Mars also.
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It's a bit curious that no announcement have been done yet on www.markknopler.com (http://www.markknopler.com) or MK News?
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No, a guy outside that venue handed out flyers... I was going to throw it away but when i read it I made a jump in the air - literally spoken!
Too tired at the moment for any review, will all be seen available - if anybody is interested...
LE
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It's a bit curious that no announcement have been done yet on www.markknopler.com (http://www.markknopler.com) or MK News?
They are just slow! ;D
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This is wonderful news!
Thank you so much, Mark! ;D
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It's a bit curious that no announcement have been done yet on www.markknopler.com (http://www.markknopler.com) or MK News?
This is where you hear the good stuff first :o :o
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So the ad says "all shows will be available at the venues as a usb flash" ... What does that mean? Is the very evening already on sale after the show?
Or are all other recent shows then available? Must be too tired to understand all that correctly....
LE
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25 Euros!!! :o Is this normal ????
Can we have a thread advising which is the VERY best concert pls ? :)
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These are MP3 so will play on a MAC.
Most silly if they aren't available everywhere, let's wait and see. Kooba, what happens if you try to download some of the stuff that's already up there, like Elton John or Kiss?
OK, I just checked if I can purchase other artists and it looks good. No probs. But I went back to MK and when entered any future date I still couldn't add it to my cart :-\. BTW, at the moment the only option available is USB. I'm sure this will improve tho. It would be ridiculous if I couldn't access only MK's gigs.
The price on this side of the pond is $38.
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I assume it's canadian $.
In swiss $, it's also 38. ;)
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About Music Networx:
Music Networx specialize in live recordings and developing innovative ways to produce, showcase and market live music. As the operator of the simfy live music portal, Music Networx provides artists, record labels and rights holders with new sales channels and markets to exploit their music.
Over the past five years, CD sales have been on the decline. Recording artists are compensating for lost sales revenues by increasing their live performance activities.
The concert market is booming. In 2007 concert revenues outsold CD sales for the first time. Interestingly, the commercial market for professional live recordings continues to be very niche. Gerrit Schumann and George Bergheim saw a gap in the market and enormous potential when they founded Music Networx AG in 2006.
Music Networx specialize in live recordings and develops and implements innovative ways to produce showcase and market live music, as the operator of the simfyLive music portal, Music Networx provides artists, record labels and rights holders with new sales channels and markets to exploit their music.
simfy live has over 200,000 registered users and offers downloads of more than 1000 concert recordings produced in-house to an average of 250,000 new visitors to their website each month.
The main simfy live catalogue comprises 250 licensed concert films, music documentaries and video compilations available in all the popular music file formats. Music Networx has started up a UK division out of London since May 2009
The live concert recordings are produced on multitrack recorders featuring signal input directly from each individual instrument and microphone on stage. A qualified team of sound engineers mix the live recordings on site in a mobile studio and then convert the songs into high quality MP3 files (320 kbit/s).
Before the encores begin, the mixed recordings are copied on to USB concert sticks using state-of-the-art duplicators. This ensures that all fans can obtain live recordings immediately after each concert at simfyLive booths without long waiting times.
The USB concert sticks are packaged in specially designed collector
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Interesting ! Glad that they are seriously adressing this market. Two point strike me though:
"Before the encores begin..." => does this mean that the encores (BIA, SFA and Piper at least in the MK case) never end up on the USB key ???
Putting "High Quality" and MP3 in the same sentence looks like an oxymoron to me. They might as well be talking about "cleanness in the dustbin". 320 kb/s is of course better than 128, but far worse than FLAC files that could easily be converted then to CDs, let alone 24/96 files for high-res audio...
Such a perfectionist as MK, with a team of highly qualified technical people such as GF and CA, should really considerer, in these days where just everybody has a high speed connection and a giantic hardisk, releasing the concerts in losseless format. They would not even need to upgrade the USB key capacity: 1GB should be enough for 130 minutes worth of FLAC files...
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Always complaining.. Be happy that we finally have recordings!
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These are MP3 so will play on a MAC.
Most silly if they aren't available everywhere, let's wait and see. Kooba, what happens if you try to download some of the stuff that's already up there, like Elton John or Kiss?
OK, I just checked if I can purchase other artists and it looks good. No probs. But I went back to MK and when entered any future date I still couldn't add it to my cart :-\. BTW, at the moment the only option available is USB. I'm sure this will improve tho. It would be ridiculous if I couldn't access only MK's gigs.
The price on this side of the pond is $38.
why $38?
that's like 30 euros, not 25
As the pre-order is only available for the recording on a USB stick, maybe the difference is to cover shipping to North America?
I assume that the mp3 download option, when it's available, will be more or less the same price wherever you are.
Herlock - according to the blurb kindly posted by ustas, if you buy the USB stick you also get a serial number which lets you download the encores later.
BTW. I notice there is a button on the Mark Knopfler Simfy page inviting you to "listen to Mark Knopfler now" on Radio Simfy, but clicking the link just brings up a message saying that facility is only available to users in Germany due to international agreements. Hopefully our German friends will let the rest of us know what is playing.
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imo if the show is perfectly recorded and mixed (as one would expect from a SBD)
the difference between a 320mp3 and a flac is almost zero.
not zero, but almost.
I used to believe that all these discussions were only for freaks and that I would only listen to mustic as MP3 files on my Iphone...
Until...
Until I listened to BIA, DSOTM and Dead Can Dance on SA-CD with a good audio system.
Until I understood what "quality audio" really meant.
But what can I do ? quality audio is dying. CDs are almost dead, SA-CD and DVD-Audio never took off... as for Pure Audio Blu-Ray, the catalog so far has... 11 titles ! great ! especially if you like classical norway music.
Long live MP3, then....
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Herlock - according to the blurb kindly posted by ustas, if you buy the USB stick you also get a serial number which lets you download the encores later.
Many thanks - I feel relieved :)
Btw, can I ask our friends who were at RAH last night if they could get their USB key in real time just like this ? I was under the impression, given Pottel's message, that the show would be available for download 48 hours later (hopefully we can get it tomorrow evening, then ??), but no mention of USB keys whatsoever...
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BTW. I notice there is a button on the Mark Knopfler Simfy page inviting you to "listen to Mark Knopfler now" on Radio Simfy, but clicking the link just brings up a message saying that facility is only available to users in Germany due to international agreements. Hopefully our German friends will let the rest of us know what is playing.
I checked the simfy Radio player. You can listening to various MK -Songs from the regular cd
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BTW. I notice there is a button on the Mark Knopfler Simfy page inviting you to "listen to Mark Knopfler now" on Radio Simfy, but clicking the link just brings up a message saying that facility is only available to users in Germany due to international agreements. Hopefully our German friends will let the rest of us know what is playing.
I checked the simfy Radio player. You can listening to various MK -Songs from the regular cd
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Always complaining.. Be happy that we finally have recordings!
Exactly, if they had made FLAC avaiable people would be complaining that they couldn't plsy them.
Fact is very few people can listen to FLAC, almost everybody can listen to MP3, stop moaning, everybody moaned about Passalong and eventually MK said "fuck it then, you get nothing". :-\
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Always complaining.. Be happy that we finally have recordings!
Exactly, if they had made FLAC avaiable people would be complaining that they couldn't plsy them.
Fact is very few people can listen to FLAC, almost everybody can listen to MP3, stop moaning, everybody moaned about Passalong and eventually MK said "fuck it then, you get nothing". :-\
I'm not moaning actually - I am quite happy to get these.
FLAC files are very easy to deal with. You got tons of free players for them, and if you want to convert them to MP3 it is very easy to do - the reverse being of course impossible.
I was not the one in the MK world to describe MP3 files as "low-quality". GF did on his forum !
Anyway, these issues are actually of little importance :)
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Most people are not geeks like us and just want to load their tracks onto an ipod, they don't want to have to download software to their computer just to burn to CD or convert to MP3.
Please people, lets not complain about the format or the price, or MK/PC might just say "they're never happy, fuck them".
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No complaints here either. I just want to get them! Especially that I won't be able to attend any show this time around.
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25 Euros!!! :o Is this normal ????
Can we have a thread advising which is the VERY best concert pls ? :)
No Fletch, I would not say this is normal! This is phantastic!! :lol :lol A complete live show is accordingly priced in my opinion. And it is great to have an
official, probably Chuck Ainlay mix from the shows I attend or will attend! That`s the good thing in only going to two shows... (he, he)
So, really looking forward to it!
LE
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Well, this is some f*cking good news! ;D ;D ;D
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Most people are not geeks like us and just want to load their tracks onto an ipod, they don't want to have to download software to their computer just to burn to CD or convert to MP3.
Please people, lets not complain about the format or the price, or MK/PC might just say "they're never happy, fuck them".
Have to agree with this. I'm not seeing MK this time around so I'm quite happy to pay more than normal for an MP3 download
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I've been sniffing around the site and other artists pages, and they usually put the shows available also in Audio CD format (obviously at a higher price). I hope they do the same with MK.
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I've been sniffing around the site and other artists pages, and they usually put the shows available also in Audio CD format (obviously at a higher price). I hope they do the same with MK.
From what I could see they were in fact MP3s stored on a CD but happy to be proved wrong.
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Why is not possible to buy MK first show at the RAH? you can look at it in the section "latest recordings", you click in "add to cart" but nothing happens :(
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PC said 48hrs later.
which is tomorrow.
also, cd does not mention being empetree.
also, i recorded bournemouth and both first RAH shows, also plan to do the next few, so for the moaning ones, there will be audience recordings.
show tonight was awesome.
saw no usb sticks...zet.
but got to meet Kate Walsh, pretty lady, nice voice, bit repetitive though.
also found Glenn's secret hideaway, where he plays the big lady every night, it really was a small (closed) room, and i wasnn't sure if it was really him, but then a crew member came and opened up and then i saw Glenn, playing. so i said hi and thanked him for the show, then i was off.
met michael mcGoldrick last night in a news agent shop at night (kensington High street and asked him to sing as well, friendly guy.
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Well, this is some f*cking good news! ;D ;D ;D
Could not have put it better myself, LH ;D
I see that the on the live dates tab there is a past live dates box which lists the UK and Ireland shows to date and the 2008 tour shows in Germany. Can we dare dream that this might mean these shows will also be available eventually?
Unfortunately the North America dates are not listed, some kind of licensing issue maybe. I seem to recall with Passalong it took quite some time for the downloads to be available everywhere due to licensing agreements in various territories.
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Hi!
I'm really happy about this MP3's.. but my question is if we can buy them only at venues or also when tour is over?
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Well, this is some f*cking good news! ;D ;D ;D
indeed! ;D
Much better than a re-worked live CD. Here you will be able to purchase just YOUR show,as it happened. And as for the issue of MP3 format, that will be good enough to listen on my ipod on my way to work.....
D-11 for me!!
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I am just hoping that the shows I have just attended will also be available soon. After all, we are told that every concert is recorded. I am keeping my fingers crossed! :)
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Albert Hall 30th May is now up,
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30% downloaded...
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Albert Hall 30th May is now up,
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Listening now.
Sounds great. Danny's toms on xxxxxxxxxxxxx really punch through.
Downloaded and copied to my ipod in minutes.
Thumbs up from me. :)
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Great news
To be able to choose lossless or even (24/96) would have been better but mp3@320 is quite decent
But most important are they DRM free?
And it is worth the waiting for them ;D
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Great news, will try to download tonight. I think I'll also try the USB "collector" one to see how it looks.
Could it be the end of audience recording (well at least for the officially recording ones) ?
And the end of all these audience noises like talky people, bad venue's sound, bass that sounds far, and after having recorded myself some 2008 shows, the end of being inattentive sometimes during the show because of checking levels, checking if all is going well with the recording stuff, etc. :lol
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WOW WOW WOW
It is complete with talking and everything! It sounds great. XXXXX gave me the same shivers as I got on Sunday evening. I am very grateful for this offer.
Wonder if Guy was involved in this... Will be hard to stay away from all the great other shows...
LE
His Post-XXXXX-talking is VERY long...
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Great news, will try to download tonight. I think I'll also try the USB "collector" one to see how it looks.
Could it be the end of audience recording (well at least for the officially recording ones) ?
And the end of all these audience noises like talky people, bad venue's sound, bass that sounds far, and after having recorded myself some 2008 shows, the end of being inattentive sometimes during the show because of checking levels, checking if all is going well with the recording stuff, etc. :lol
Audience recording and sbd are a different experience.
First of all on the sbd you hear the engineer choice that is definitively different of what you can hear in the hall. I want to tell for example that Richard sounds very nice but his part are too often very low mixed.
Second some audience recording can sometime turns very good and if not as good as a sbd feed not that far and give real listening pleasure.
Of course myself I do prefer the sbd source most of the time but not always...
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WOW WOW WOW
It is complete with talking and everything! It sounds great. xxxxxxx gave me the same shivers as I got on Sunday evening. I am very grateful for this offer.
Wonder if Guy was involved in this... Will be hard to stay away from all the great other shows...
LE
His Post-XXXXXX-talking is VERY long...
Maybe you could edit your post without setlist reference -this is not for myself as I already attended but for others....
By the way I was pleased to meet you
;)
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Sorry. OK I changed it. Didn't know there were any unspoiled people around but I learned on sunday that indeed some lucky people were able to avoid getting knowledge of the setlist. Sorry, I was a little bit inattendive ::). Because I was so excited! Boy, sounds really good....
Yep, it was great to meet you, too! :) You are a very friendly, openminded and polite chap! Maybe we meet again at some other shows in the nearer or distant future..
LE
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I have downloaded the 1st show at RAH for 14.95
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Listening to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx right now, sounds great.
MK's vocals sound slightly muffled but the headphones I have at the moment aren't the best for vocals so I'll reserve judgement until I've listened on something else.
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Audience recording and sbd are a different experience.
First of all on the sbd you hear the engineer choice that is definitively different of what you can hear in the hall. I want to tell for example that Richard sounds very nice but his part are too often very low mixed.
I agree, then I wonder if the official recording comes the FOH engineer's mix done for the venue, or another mix has been done for the "hifi" rendering.
Second some audience recording can sometime turns very good and if not as good as a sbd feed not that far and give real listening pleasure.
Of course myself I do prefer the sbd source most of the time but not always...
There again I agree, I was totally surprised how good my recording from Nantes 2008 sounds (my first ever recording).
But it has a lot to do with the recording gear (microphones above all), with the seats you have (not close from the stage, just behind the FOH engineer is a good place to be), with the people near you...
My other 2008 recordings (not released yet by lack of time) do not sound as good as Nantes. I have to find time and to check if it is worth the work compared to the other existing recordings.
On most of the audience recordings, bass doesn't really sound like rich and deep bass. I don't know how to explain what I feel. Because of the spoiler I can't say which song I have in mind.
Same thing with drums, I think it has to do with low frequencies, so the rhythm instruments.
I like audience recordings, thank you for all of the people involved, but very often the rhythm part does not sound as good as live. That's why I think soundboards are a good thing. Thanks MK, Guy (I'm sure he is involved) and PCM.
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Glenn's bass sounding good as I listen to an old favourite right now.
They seem to be DRM free, certainly I put them on my ipod no problem, I don't know how to check.
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Fantastic stuff! Listening now...That night in Albert Hall was my first time in UK. Great to have recording of that!
Silvertown
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I just checked the site and it's not available for download in the U.S. :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
If someone knows a way for the U.S. fans to get the RAH recordings, please let us know. :-[
Thank you!
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Actually I have to make a correction. Been in UK twice before...in Scotland :)
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Ok, I have just downloaded it, listening to it right now on my LG home cinema system.
Just to show you that the moaning one can also be positive, here is my review of the whole thing :)
1-The E-commercie part is a breeze. A huge step up from bloody Passalong. You don't even need to register to buy it. Information needed is reduced to minimum. Download speed is fine. No resistance whatsoever in the process. Congrats ! it seems that this is the way to go to distribute live music in today's world of high technology and low CD sales.
2-The thing is definitely DRM free. This is the advantage of MP3 over WMA - at comparable bitrates, quality is a bit less but the hassle is much less. You can put this anywhere.
3-The tracks are properly labelled. There are as many tracks as songs, seems that the band introductions have been removed, even if I have not listened to everything yet. Never mind anyway.
4-The artwork is reduced to .jpg files of the get lucky album cover. Not terribly interesting, but never mind.
5-The audio quality, I have to say, is great. Greater than expected for MP3s.
Now, here are my (constructive) suggestions to make this a perfect experience:
1-I stick to the opinion that FLAC download should be an option for those who know what they are doing, even if it is priced higher. it would cost them just a bit more storage space and bandwidth access... anyway.
2-Not labelling the tracks on the web site is a bit ridiculous: if you come here to download a concert, obviously that means you intend to know the setlist very soon :) You should be able to choose which concert suits you best. Anyway, small matter, there are other ways to know. Let's hope that the songs that did you make it in London will make it later in the tour !
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I just checked the site and it's not available for download in the U.S. :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
If someone knows a way for the U.S. fans to get the RAH recordings, please let us know. :-[
Thank you!
Now that really sucks. Seriously. I will refrain from smiling and saying that for once, the "rest of the world" is advantaged over the US... Rather, I'll say, this is a globalized world, MK is having a transatlantic career, The Internet is a village, so, please, Simfy, give us a break !!
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I just checked the site and it's not available for download in the U.S. :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
If someone knows a way for the U.S. fans to get the RAH recordings, please let us know. :-[
Thank you!
Yep, the same here in Canada >:( :(
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Try to use a europeamn proxy, or a UK one, I didn
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Try to use a europeamn proxy, or a UK one, I didn
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Try to use a europeamn proxy, or a UK one, I didn
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Ok, the purchase was really easy! The mix is rather good too, would've hoped that MK's guitar would be a bit louder, at least during solos :) Not gonna buy all of them, but couple of good ones...
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Ok, I have just downloaded it, listening to it right now on my LG home cinema system.
Just to show you that the moaning one can also be positive, here is my review of the whole thing :)
1-The E-commercie part is a breeze. A huge step up from bloody Passalong. You don't even need to register to buy it. Information needed is reduced to minimum. Download speed is fine. No resistance whatsoever in the process. Congrats ! it seems that this is the way to go to distribute live music in today's world of high technology and low CD sales.
2-The thing is definitely DRM free. This is the advantage of MP3 over WMA - at comparable bitrates, quality is a bit less but the hassle is much less. You can put this anywhere.
3-The tracks are properly labelled. There are as many tracks as songs, seems that the band introductions have been removed, even if I have not listened to everything yet. Never mind anyway.
4-The artwork is reduced to .jpg files of the get lucky album cover. Not terribly interesting, but never mind.
5-The audio quality, I have to say, is great. Greater than expected for MP3s.
Now, here are my (constructive) suggestions to make this a perfect experience:
1-I stick to the opinion that FLAC download should be an option for those who know what they are doing, even if it is priced higher. it would cost them just a bit more storage space and bandwidth access... anyway.
2-Not labelling the tracks on the web site is a bit ridiculous: if you come here to download a concert, obviously that means you intend to know the setlist very soon :) You should be able to choose which concert suits you best. Anyway, small matter, there are other ways to know. Let's hope that the songs that did you make it in London will make it later in the tour !
OK, band introductions ARE there, I just listened to them. :)
Art is different to the Get Luck cover, but I guess people will make custom stuff soon enough.
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I asked them if any of the previous MK concerts (before the RAH) will be available, and that was their answer:
Thank you for your response.
We are only recording the upcoming, current tour of Mark Knopfler. Therefore we dont offer the concerts from North America and UK.
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I asked them if any of the previous MK concerts (before the RAH) will be available, and that was their answer:
Thank you for your response.
We are only recording the upcoming, current tour of Mark Knopfler. Therefore we dont offer the concerts from North America and UK.
Somebody needs to tell them what country London is in. ;)
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Right. But they probably mean the recent uk shows before the RAH stint, don't you think?
LE
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They answered me about the fact this recordings can
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They answered me about the fact this recordings can
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They answered me about the fact this recordings can
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so only europe
Im from south america and 15 euros here are A LOT , with that money you can buy a Tv, or a dvd player here!. Anyway I was looking forward to buy it but I CANT!!!
I cant wait anymore!!!
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According to their answer, they won
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My take on it ? Go and proxy like mad with no remorse. Can anybody try and tell us whether they only block IP addresses, or if they also ban credit cards based on location ? in the latter case they should be some ways to get european virtual credit cards or something...
We won
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According to their answer, they won
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Can't speak for the other mods but I don't have a problem with anyone bending copyright rules to give MK their money. :)
One of the options is to use Paypal so I assume that would get round the credit card thing.
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Can't believe they won't do anything to resolve this. As I mentioned before, I am able to purchase / order Elton John recordings from this very site but it seems only MK's gigs are blocked. Now, this is ridiculous!
I will try it later with jbaent's link. Thanks for all your advice! Paypal should work just fine.
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Can't speak for the other mods but I don't have a problem with anyone bending copyright rules to give MK their money. :)
One of teh options is to use Paypal so I assume that would get round the credit card thing.
Not sure for paypal, they may still be able to check the underlying credit card origin. One of our American friends has to try and let us know.
Agreed about bending the rules to give MK their money. I am ready to purchase the concerts several times and send them to american people who can refund me by paypal, if needed. This could be our way of protest, which could hardly be labelled as piracy as we would actually give MK MORE money than if we do nothing !
MK himself is certainly against these stupid limitations. He expressed modern views on the Internet many times, starting with the Napster lawsuit in 2000. Now I am very disappointed that these issues are still pending in 2010. What was ennoying in 2000, was irritating in 2005 and is really unbearable in 2010.
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I am ready to purchase the concerts several times and send them to american people who can refund me by paypal, if needed. This could be our way of protest, which could hardly be labelled as piracy as we would actually give MK MORE money than if we do nothing !
Can do so too, morally this is fine with me, stupid to have geographical copyright rules these days. The internet doesn't respect such boundaries. :)
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I just downloaded the 30th May gig that I was it. Really impressed with the sound, it sounds very full, clear and loud.
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Me too!
I love it!!! Wow...Cant wait to see MK live in Norway in two weeks!
:D
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According to their answer, they won
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Excellent point regarding financial transactions. Thanks. Anyway, I've found an individual proxy server of my own now. :lol
Hmmm, I checked out one proxy server, gave no information (except of course what they grabbed) ended up with five popups and am now virus scanning the computer, cleaning cookies, etc. etc. So I'd say unless you know a proxy site is safe, don't even go there.
But speaking for this editor, there's nothing wrong with a proxy server or posting a link to one. I don't see anything even wrong with getting the concert in the US this way--other than the danger to one's own security.
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To my fellow North Americans: Beware of using an anonymous proxy server. Someone is running the anon proxy for a reason and may be collecting your sensitive information. See any of these http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dangers+of+anonymous+proxy&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dangers+of+anonymous+proxy&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=) for further discussion. Once you are informed make your own best judgement. I will not perform a financial transaction using an anonymous proxy.
Well, I guess the normal thing is connect through that proxy just to download the concert and then back to the standard connection, but, yes, you have to use your credit card ???
Maybe someone could help with a secure european proxy for our american fellows, and then try if they are not caught by their not european card...
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To my fellow North Americans: Beware of using an anonymous proxy server. Someone is running the anon proxy for a reason and may be collecting your sensitive information. See any of these http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dangers+of+anonymous+proxy&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dangers+of+anonymous+proxy&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=) for further discussion. Once you are informed make your own best judgement. I will not perform a financial transaction using an anonymous proxy.
Well, I guess the normal thing is connect through that proxy just to download the concert and then back to the standard connection, but, yes, you have to use your credit card ???
Maybe someone could help with a secure european proxy for our american fellows, and then try if they are not caught by their not european card...
If the proxy lets you use HTTPS, then you can trust that your sensitive info will not be catched. But many free proxies don't allow it.
I recommend to use the AN.ON. network:
http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/index_en.html
It's a proxy network running in volunteer sites as universities and similar, so it's fairly reliable. They allow HTTPS, so your privacy is respected. The problem is that it's usually slow, and you have to pay if you want more speed.
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so has anyone actually tried mailing PC?
sometimes that does help!
also, the US shows were far more "fan" recorded then the european ones, so it is not like there is nothing out there.
and i say that if nothing changes that we should make Spanish city (pamplina :-) allow the fan recordings from this part of the tour, that way those fans also have"something"...
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According to their answer, they won
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Geo restriction again?
I don't know if there is a better word than "stupid" to describe this.
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I am with Dusty in this! For me it's fine when people in Europe order for non-european-citizens and send them the downloaded recording or flashstick. Only restriction for me is:
The ones who do this have to do it "official", so pay for it, receive the download or stick and send it to your friend in the US or somewhere else. Only at the price which is mentioned at Simfy (and if needed some stamps).
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The 2nd show at RAH wasn't recorded??
It is not yet available in the site..
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Someone mentioned that, according Paul Crockford it tooks 48 hours to be online each show, so, today London 31th May should be available, that it isn
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Jbaent, According to the Simfy site, the next available recordings from RAH are June 2nd, 3rd and 4th! So it looks like May 31st and June 1st are missing! :-\
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Jbaent, According to the Simfy site, the next available recordings from RAH are June 2nd, 3rd and 4th! So it looks like May 31st and June 1st are missing! :-\
But May 31st and June 1st were mentiones as next available recordings also two days ago, for sure...
I think it doesn
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This is absolutely cruel for us in the U.S. I really have to get my hands on one of these. If someone is willing to order the sticks, they will also have to download the rest of the show and put them on the sticks because they don't have the whole show on them. I am familiar with simfy as I did a few of the Elton John shows that I missed to go to MK this tour (same nights).
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awww....? No 31ST? we'll see ! BTW it's great to hear again the attended show !!
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nono...
martina and i spoke to the (german) guys that actually record this stuff.
and they stand outside in a small van, connected to the FOH with a glassfibre cable, with 103 channels, and convert it straight in empeetree, even if you buy the cd, it is empeetree to cd......
they also mentioned that they are talking about getting the tapes (the band made) from Dublin on and making those available too!!!!!!!!!! meaning. also RAH the first two nights.
last but not least, and here they were unsure, they (the crew/van) would only record until the end of june (?)
but this to me does not mean that there will not be simply another team for the remainder of the tour.
also, why does noone contact pcm and propose to release ALL concerts (since the band started taping i mean, back in god knows when,...) and that we could for example split the proceeds to go to charity and the band ?? (or mark of course)
i mean, all nights in the RAH are in light of various charity organisations, we know how much this means to mark...maybe the route of hthe supertanker can be changed that way??
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I'm all for it, but why would they need us to come up with these common sense ideas ? If PC cannot move the supertanker, can we fans make a difference ?
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we can try...
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I just hope that they publish enough concerts so that at least one good version of each song played on the tour is available.
May be tough to re-release the 2005 concerts as many sites have started treating them as public domain since Passalong went bust.
The 2008 concerts would be nice to have but they do not add tremendous value over the 2010 ones (with the notable exception of Postcards from Paraguay, I still have a slight hope that it would be played this year)
2001 would be Nice, rare songs like Pyroman or Junkie Doll, but i seriously doubt that they have them. same for the fabulous 96 ones, don't think they kept what was not released on ANIL and the SoS compilation.
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Just listened to the rah 30-5 show, I like it lets say 8.5 points overall
great version of marbletown hill farmers sos and piper! , but I dont like speeday at nazareth , I cant hear ritchards guitar when enters in the solo
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Still only the 30th May show available. Does anyone know whether Simfy were recording the other RAH shows, or was it just the first one?
Interesting to discover how well the after show collection of USB sticks goes on the 6th.
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I just hope that they publish enough concerts so that at least one good version of each song played on the tour is available.
May be tough to re-release the 2005 concerts as many sites have started treating them as public domain since Passalong went bust.
The 2008 concerts would be nice to have but they do not add tremendous value over the 2010 ones (with the notable exception of Postcards from Paraguay, I still have a slight hope that it would be played this year)
2001 would be Nice, rare songs like Pyroman or Junkie Doll, but i seriously doubt that they have them. same for the fabulous 96 ones, don't think they kept what was not released on ANIL and the SoS compilation.
Not so bothered about 96 or 01 as we have some FM broadcasts from those tours, especially 96.
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I mailed them directly to tell them I
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Pottel, any explanation about why only the first night is available? You should ask them if you have the chance :)
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This has just been posted on MK.Com:
Hi fellows,
this ist Ulf from Simfy, recording each show. As you already have got it right Simfy is recording each evening to issue each show in CD quality. For some venue based reasons we were only allowed to issue the first gig of the RAH jet but are in negotioations regarding the release of the other RAH shows. Let me come back to you if there is any new information. Until now you can purchase the 1st gig using the MP3 download or USB pre order via http://www.simfylive.de/de/artist/3272/live-recordings/Mark-Knopfler.html .
USB sticks will be sold directly at the venue from around the 6th of June on. We are waiting for the flash drives to be delivered from the manufacturer.
If you pre order them now they will be sent via mail and you will get a really nice collectors box with a high quality mixed concert on it.
If you pruchase the USB sticks from the venue itself you will find most of the songs on the USB stick immediately. A few encores will be missing each night that you can download from the web the next day. A download link can be found in the flash player delivered with the device. Just click on that link, enter the download code into the web mask popping up and downoad the .zip file. If you unpack that .zip to the stick you'll find also the encores in your track list.
I hope I could answer a few of your questions. Regarding outside Europe downloads I have to see what I can do talking to our management.
Regards
Ulf
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Well that explains very clearly what is going on with the Simfy recordings.
Many thanks Superval for posting this here and many thanks Ulf from Simfy for the explanation, it really is a nice to have some straight forward answers.
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I don
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Seems to me from that reply and from Pottel's conversations with them that the Simfy people are good guys who will do their best to give us what we want. :)
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On Guy's forum regarding the availability for those of us in North America:
"I'm aware of your dilemma and will be letting you know if anything comes up. It's just that it's not been decided yet. I remain hopeful."
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Need to wait till I get paid in 2 weeks :-( Can't wait to get my hands on some recordings :-)
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To any of those wondering what to do, well I went and bought the Royal Albert Hall on the 30/05/2010 download this afternoon and we were after downloading the file onto the computer and then transferring to cd completely 'blown away' as it bought back very happy memories of last night listening to Mark and the band... JUST BUY IT YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE!!!
What excellent sound all round and of course Mark and his guitars are heard really well and backed by all the other instruments make this a pleasure to own...
My conclusion is that if they do decide to release our concert (2nd June) that will be an added bonus but at least we have the first night at the RAH on disc NOW!!!
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Just to add that after completely listening to both cd's that this is the full concert including Mark talking to everyone...
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Just to add that after completely listening to both cd's that this is the full concert including Mark talking to everyone...
That's good. Nice to hear those bits too!
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Thanks Knopflerfan! I think I'll give it a try, then at least I'll have one, even if it's not one of my concerts! :D
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knopflerfan,
You're killing me!!!! Its not an issue of if we WANT to buy, it is an issue of IF we can buy it lol....
Seriously though, I hope that they fix this soon for NA because I am not sure how much more of this I can take......
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knopflerfan,
You're killing me!!!! Its not an issue of if we WANT to buy, it is an issue of IF we can buy it lol....
Seriously though, I hope that they fix this soon for NA because I am not sure how much more of this I can take......
Sorry didn't mean to offend anyone, I'm just saying for those that can buy it - BUY IT. I really hope you will be able to order a copy soon?..
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no worries knofplerfan, diremark meant it in a funny way (or at least that is how i interpret it)
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I can understand the Spanish tracker not wanting to host the audience recordings when there are official recordings available. After all there has been plenty or conversation on this forum about the lack of MK official live recordings. If fans pick audience recordings over the official ones doesn't that just further decrease the chance of MK releasing an official live recording on CD/DVD?
Of course the affect of the availability of audience recordings would probably have a minimal impact on the simfy sales, but it is about putting the right message out.
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I don't understand what the problem is. Who needs audience recordings if there are official soundboard recordings available for download at a reasonable price?
I do however see the dilemma of our American friends. Hope there will be a solution.
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Must be collectors-disease :P
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Well, you have the legal aspect of it and the practical aspect.
Legally, it is clearly stated by MK management that audio bootlegging and sharing is perfectly legal; no notice whatsoever was given that this policy would change because of the Simfy releases; of course it would be illegal to share this Simfy releases; but an audience recording of the same show is by no means the same product, so there is nothing whatsoever preventing the tracker to put these audience recording onlines.
Now, regardless of the legal aspect, would the Simfy sales go down because of the presence of free audience recordings ? I seriously doubt so. As Pottel put it, those who make it to the Spanish city are real fans, who would be definitely buying the soundboard recordings, whether or not they have the option to find an audience reccording.
I'm in favor of sharing them. There are 3 good reasons to do so:
1/We *are* allowed to do so
2/I would not dismiss the interest of an audience recording, especially in today's world where technology allows high quality ones. An audience recording is not necessirily worse than a soundboard one. It is just a different experience. And for some, it may mean hearing again exacly what you heard in the concert room, including the crowd noise - a memory that will be cherished more, despite its imperfections.
3/Our Amercian friends deserve something. They were not treated respectfully (until now at least), so, I would have no remerse providing them with whatever is available.
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I don't understand what the problem is. Who needs audience recordings if there are official soundboard recordings available for download at a reasonable price?
I do however see the dilemma of our American friends. Hope there will be a solution.
I hardly ever listen to the Crowfly recordings from the S-L tour now because they're lossy and sound terrible (to my ears anyway). I would rather put on one of the excellent audience recordings instead but I think fans will be a little reluctant to bother taking their equipment with them if they know they can pre-order the concert.
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Regarding audience-recordings: I think they will be allowed after the tour again. So we will have them anyway. And our american friends (and other friends around the world!!) should be able to have them too, so if the problem will not be solved proper I think we can provide them by downloading it on their behalf or ordering the stick and send it to them
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I hardly ever listen to the Crowfly recordings from the S-L tour now because they're lossy and sound terrible (to my ears anyway). I would rather put on one of the excellent audience recordings instead but I think fans will be a little reluctant to bother taking their equipment with them if they know they can pre-order the concert.
They are indeed lossy, and as purist I don't really like lossy files (but last time I said that I got blasted here ;)). Still, I have RAH 2005 and it does not sound terrible to me, rather good actually, which one(s) do you have ?
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I hardly ever listen to the Crowfly recordings from the S-L tour now because they're lossy and sound terrible (to my ears anyway). I would rather put on one of the excellent audience recordings instead but I think fans will be a little reluctant to bother taking their equipment with them if they know they can pre-order the concert.
They are indeed lossy, and as purist I don't really like lossy files (but last time I said that I got blasted here ;)). Still, I have RAH 2005 and it does not sound terrible to me, rather good actually, which one(s) do you have ?
I have all of them.
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no worries knofplerfan, diremark meant it in a funny way (or at least that is how i interpret it)
That is true, I wasn't offended at all. I did mean it in a funny way. Its just killing me not having an offical soundboard right now!!! AAARRRGGG!!!!!!
Someone on Guy's forum posted that there is one available download of the RAH shows in the U.S. I for one would like to know how the heck he did it.....
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I downloaded the concert this morning from Simfy and I really LOVE IT! I can hear so many sounds I was not aware of on other recordings and the sound is beautiful. I just hope one of "mine" will eventually surface! I still think audience recordings are needed, however, especially for those concerts not available. :)
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so if the problem will not be solved proper I think we can provide them by downloading it on their behalf or ordering the stick and send it to them
Is that not breaking the law to import on the US territory music not allowed to be sold there ???
Just kiddin' ;D
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I don't know! To make it clear with an example:
If Isaac (Canadian) goes to every show and every night he buys the stick, I don't think it's illegal for him to bring it with him home.
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I don't know, I was basicaly kidding about the silly situation. Because sometimes rules maybe so complex that a workaround maybe legal or not.
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I listen to the Crowfly shows, I think in general they sound good, the only time I notice they are lossy is when the applause comes in.
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I did listen to them again after a long gap of time and they really sound flat to me. I don't know if it is because I listen these from the CD wave trancoded files I made before my HD chrashed with the original fucking DRMised wma files I paid for.
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Cheers Pensaboy - that Poster looks pretty cool! :D
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I wonder what this white box is... when I saw the flyer in London I thought it was a cd edition of the concert, but now that I read about a collector box or something like that I have my doubts.
I saw in other sites that special boxes to collect all the usb are offered, usually with all the recordings made, or special boxes with all the cds, but apparently (according to the picture) the usb is not labered with the venue / date. I hope the real stick it is.
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It looks like they are having issues with the Royal Albert Hall "brand", that probably asks for lots of money to be used, so probably the May 30th show we already have will be the only one available from London ???
I hope the Simfy Live people solve the problem, but it looks like having so many other concerts to offer, the easy step is forget about the rest of RAH shows.
A pitty, I wanted to collect all the RAH sticks :(
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Pensaboy,
thanks for the pix of teh flyer. really cool. Anybody knows about NA recordings? Any words whether they will be available ?
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Hmm, if these sticks are available right after the show, I'll buy one! :D
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do, can i now, or can i not share the recordings of the RAH (and Bournemouth) and the ones that lie ahead of me??
Allen, Pamplina??
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do, can i now, or can i not share the recordings of the RAH (and Bournemouth) and the ones that lie ahead of me??
Allen, Pamplina??
When we can confirm that simfy will definitely not release these shows, you can upload yours. Or you can join the hot discussion here: http://tracker.knopflertk.net/comments.php?type=news&id=51
Wishes
Allen
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do, can i now, or can i not share the recordings of the RAH (and Bournemouth) and the ones that lie ahead of me??
Allen, Pamplina??
I think until we have any official anouncement that all the RAH dates and the previous concerts will be released at simpfy live, we can share the audience recordings. Considering that the RAH brand make it difficult to release more than one concert and that they have many european shows to release, something tells me that they will forget about all the remaining british shows and will focuse in all the upcoming ones...
However drop an e-mail to Pamplina.
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RAH show is available in US as mp3 download for $21.99, all other European shows available as pre-order on flash drive for $36.49.
http://simfylive.com/en/shop/29388/live-recordings/Mark-Knopfler.html
RAH show sample sounds great, will have to get it.....!
Keep Knopflerin' ;)
Oops never mind not available here of course--but why is it in US funds?
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Your post is not clear, sorry - is it or is not available for download in the US ??
Thanks
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RAH show is available in US as mp3 download for $21.99, all other European shows available as pre-order on flash drive for $36.49.
http://simfylive.com/en/shop/29388/live-recordings/Mark-Knopfler.html
RAH show sample sounds great, will have to get it.....!
Keep Knopflerin' ;)
Oops never mind not available here of course--but why is it in US funds?
Ok rygman, you are adding to the problem. THE SHOWS ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD IN NORTH AMERICA. You get a message that says these are not available in your country. You can look at them and see what ones are there but it will NOT allow us to purchase them. I am tired of people popping up saying you can. If they have downloaded them it has been less than legal......
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Why wouldn't you share your own recording? It's not the SB recording by Simfy you share, it's an audience recording. During the RLRR tour the Los Angeles show was also recorded by audience, so what's the problem? ;) It's about the recording, not the show...
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Have not been here in the forum for a while as busy with other stuff ....... and WHAT a F......... great news to read, even that the Danish show is also to be bought as well.
Simply perfect ;-)
Thanks for posting this great news *ss
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Welcome back!
Today is the day where the live recordings will be back, acording to simpfy live, well, at least 48 hours later from today ;D
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Just returned from the Antwerp/Merksem concert. Sticks were indeed available for 25 Euro. Collection was very well organized and fast (less than 2 minutes wait). First 9 songs (up till SOS) are on the stick, the others will be available as of tomorrow for download.
Very nice !
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yep, was a quick and easy solution, bought one too
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Which stick was on sale ? Only Antwerp or also RAH 30/5 ?
thanks :)
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http://simfylive.com/en/artist/3272/live-recordings/3104/4809/Mark-Knopfler-Get-Lucky-Tour---Live-in-Merksem.html
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Which stick was on sale ? Only Antwerp or also RAH 30/5 ?
thanks :)
Good question, are you able to buy hust that night stick or also previous concerts?
Are that sticks labelled with the venue and ate?
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Which stick was on sale ? Only Antwerp or also RAH 30/5 ?
thanks :)
Good question, are you able to buy hust that night stick or also previous concerts?
Are that sticks labelled with the venue and ate?
Only Antwerpen, listening to it right now :D
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AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z248/iflycessnas05/MKSIMFY1.jpg)
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Really a pity for our American friends - why don't MK get all the lawyers involved in one room with no food and water, and tell them that they will get out only once they reach an agreement ? ;)
As for the USB key - can we have some details about the box that is supplied with it ? any goodies, any customization ? or this is a just a box ? thanks !
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AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z248/iflycessnas05/MKSIMFY1.jpg)
Did anyone tried the proxy sugested by Pamplina in order to buy the recordings from the US?
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I haven't because I am really cautious about using them when completing financial transactions as they do have the ability to see everything your doing....
Guy Fletcher still seems somewhat confident that Paul will fix it. Today on his forum he posted: "The problem for the US is contractual, due to Mark using a different label over there. Rest assured that Paul is trying to resolve the issue as best he can."
I am not sure how much longer I can wait!!!! (like I have much of a choice)
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I haven't because I am really cautious about using them when completing financial transactions as they do have the ability to see everything your doing....
Guy Fletcher still seems somewhat confident that Paul will fix it. Today on his forum he posted: "The problem for the US is contractual, due to Mark using a different label over there. Rest assured that Paul is trying to resolve the issue as best he can."
I am not sure how much longer I can wait!!!! (like I have much of a choice)
Maybe as long as the world outside north America had to get the Crowfly recordings back in 2005?
Better is to wait than using a non-trusted proxy.
Can I suggest doing a petition to WB that if they don't allow the simfy recording to be sold there you will boycott all their products...
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Anyone knows if the dates after the 4 july (Budapest) will be recorded by simfylive?
I'm italian and i hope that they extend this project also for the italian leg of the tour.
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Hi,
I am looking for some nice artwork to create an album cover for the Simfylive shows. I was going through some pictures but think the way the usb-box
is styled is the best way to make an album cover: White background, the chip logo and then just write Venue and date under that. So maybe somebody
could scan the box or offer that beautiful picture in another manner? I am hopeless with technique and hope somebody can help? Also hope that this
question is not inapprobiate or something...
LE
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I could do some artwork with pleasure! But i'll need the scan !!
PM me ! on my email !
Thank u
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I ordered the RAH usb, I dont know if I
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The chip logo is perfect for printable CDR's.
Here is an example :
(http://ext.xoopit.com/2/lfMy3siZon6uIhHs0qJInikKVByRBSRbN/rmm.contents.raw?sigKey=vj2jyn4&cd=a&sig=21fc3dddae379cbfebbde0eb85c86f92)
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The chip logo is perfect for printable CDR's.
Here is an example :
(http://ext.xoopit.com/2/lfMy3siZon6uIhHs0qJInikKVByRBSRbN/rmm.contents.raw?sigKey=vj2jyn4&cd=a&sig=21fc3dddae379cbfebbde0eb85c86f92)
Absolutely gorgeous !!!!!!! I lOVE IT !!!
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Do you have one big without anything written on it apart Mark Knopfler and Get Lucky tour?
I
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I have blank ones and I add or remove details or change color.
Will PM you tonight ;)
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Please, me too!
LE
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Please, me too!
LE
with pleasure. ;D
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Pls, me too !
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Tunnel , could you send me the chip logo as well ???
Thanks a lot,
Fretbol ;)
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Hey Sweetsurrender and Fretbol,
as I started this questioning thing, I thought it might be fair that I send it to you! And I hope that tunnel1985 hasn't anything against it! Please be sensible with it!
All the best
LE
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Hey Sweetsurrender and Fretbol,
as I started this questioning thing, I thought it might be fair that I send it to you! And I hope that tunnel1985 hasn't anything against it! Please be sensible with it!
All the best
LE
Of course you can forward the files :)
Indeed many people are asking and I will shortly put the files (blank ones + those I made for the US shows + a nice try for the 85's shows) in a more suitable storage location. My name appears on the current and I don't want to put such a link on a public forum.
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Did anyone received the usb stick and can say if there is or not a collector box to collet them?
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I bought it after the concert in Frankfurt. It does have a little box where it is stored in, but the box is simple white with a sticker on it. I don't know about the ones you buy online, I suppose they have the whole concert on it (I had to download the songs after song 9 the next day). If it is different I will buy another stick online. The stick itself has the casinochip printed on it, so a nice collectorsitem.
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i have a covers from London 30 May
how to insert pictures
thanks
rod
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it's ok Londres RAH covers by me
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/9545/mklondresbackfinal.jpg)
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/4631/mklondresfrontfinal.jpg)
Rod from France , no in Bercy tonight :-[
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Now that I got my USB key from Paris, and downloaded the "Encores", I am a bit surprised.
They call the file "Encores", but it is actually the full concert.
I thought the 8 first songs would be identical to the ones on the key, but they are not. They are very similar, but not identical in size. The ones on the key are timed at 22:07, the ones on the files at 23:51 yesterday night.
So, do they systematcally remix the thing ? or did they make a mistake they wanted to correct ? both sounds the same to me. Any clue ?
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Now, I have not read all 14 pages here, but I have read on the danish sites regarding MK and the concert tomorrow at Middelfart, that besides the concert itself, the stick will also include both MK solo original tracks and DS original tracks.
Is that true ?
5-6 different sites says this, and it seems obvious that they have copy/pasted it from the same source (?)...
Anyway, I will know after tomorrow and post it here unless somebody already knows about it.
cheers peter
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This is correct. Your concert will include, most probably, 11 tracks from MK solo career and 5 tracks from DS times :)
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Well, that is a very complicated way to say it: The stick will contain the show, period. When you buy the usb-stick, it is not possible in such a short time between the last song and buying to have the whole show on it. So the encores will not be on it. You will be able to download them the next day. It has never coursed any problems by anybody. Of course, the DS songs and the MK songs refer to the set list. So if you know the set list already just do a rough count. If not, do not spoil yourself any further... If you do not want to buy the usb-stick, you have also the chance to download the show.
usb-stick, 24,95
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I have problem to download the paris show from simfy.
The download is slow and when i complete i can't open it.
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I have problem to download the paris show from simfy.
The download is slow and when i complete i can't open it.
Well I think server too busy because it is taking age to get it also myself
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I can see what you mean and thanks for info, but I think some journalists here got it wrong then. They write here that these MK and DS songs are BESIDES the concert, which means that people should get the live concert PLUS some original CD tracks from MK solo and DS tracks.
We will see, but I think some will be disappointed if they are promised some original CD tracks, PLUS the live concert on the stick.
I
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Many thanks totor for those wonderful covers for the RAH...
I downloaded another show today and this had to be the Luxembourg show (08/06/10) purely because I wanted 'Why aye man', Cleaning my gun' and 'Donegans gone' and I am very thrilled with the download, I just love the intro to 'Donegans gone' espeically as I heard it live at Bournemouth and NOT the RAH...
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hi knopflerfan, nice to see you enjoying it in here.
gotten luxemburg as well. it was a great show too.
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hi knopflerfan, nice to see you enjoying it in here.
gotten luxemburg as well. it was a great show too.
Oh yes I am certainly enjoying it on here sir!!!
Yes the Luxemburg show is excellent and well recomended!!
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Just received my usb stick of London 30th May 2010.
It
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I got the same from Paris/Bercy.
I think they are a GENIUS marketing coup. I'm not trolling, I'm saying this as an entrepreneur, I think the marketing guys know what they are doing. Why ?
Would you buy, at the venue, an *empty* MK USB stick ? well, probably for some, but now if this stick is said to contain the concert you've just attended... you can't resist. You buy. I did, and I am marketing guy though :)
Why do they rush to put half of the show (please note that they tell you: up to the Encores, but they stop before that actually - never mind) on the stick before the end of the concert ? You could actually buy the stick and download the whole concert, not just the missing half, the next day. Does not make a big difference. But in that case... you would not have such an compelling argument to buy the stick. Instead of buying a 25
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In the site they are behind with the concert uploads. Until now we had every concert just the morning after, today we have the Helsinborg (two days ago) and Oslo (yesterday) is not there yet...
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In the site they are behind with the concert uploads. Until now we had every concert just the morning after, today we have the Helsinborg (two days ago) and Oslo (yesterday) is not there yet...
Seems they don't work on a Sunday. Trust religion to get in the way; the root of all evil! ::)
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I got the same from Paris/Bercy.
I think they are a GENIUS marketing coup. I'm not trolling, I'm saying this as an entrepreneur, I think the marketing guys know what they are doing. Why ?
Would you buy, at the venue, an *empty* MK USB stick ? well, probably for some, but now if this stick is said to contain the concert you've just attended... you can't resist. You buy. I did, and I am marketing guy though :)
Why do they rush to put half of the show (please note that they tell you: up to the Encores, but they stop before that actually - never mind) on the stick before the end of the concert ? You could actually buy the stick and download the whole concert, not just the missing half, the next day. Does not make a big difference. But in that case... you would not have such an compelling argument to buy the stick. Instead of buying a 25
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Agree wholeheartedly. In my view the stick has a certain souvenir aspect. And for me that deal works even better than the odd t-shirt, too.
A tshirt you can wear though, even if it is underneath a shirt or sweater because they are so crap. ;)
But the USB stick will just get thrown in my attic along will all my CDs, vinyly etc. End up listening to music almost always on my ipod now,
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Hey, I'm gonna start wearing that stick in my trouser pocket. ;)
Joking apart, I see your point, dustyvalentino, guess my USB stick will make its way into the record collection, too, and played from the computer's harddrive instead.
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A spanish fan just told me that he received his box with the usb, and the usb was empty!!!!!!!!!!
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that must be a very nice surprise
Only if you have bought a Phil Collins USB stick.
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One more question, I think GF said on his forum that previous tour recordings were not te be issued.
Nonetheless, it would be very easy for them:
1/To re-release the 2005 digital downloads, now that Passalong went bust and that they are nowhere to be found officially,
2/To release the 2008 concerts that GF said were recorded,
3/Let's dream, to release the video of "An evening with MK" (Hurlingham 2009) which is very sweet, even if not a full live concert, and is only available on "Pay per view" on I-concerts or some telecom operators services...
What do you guys think ?
Hurlingham was broadcast on TV and is available in DVD quality on the tracker, so I don't need an official release of that.
But 2005 in 320kbps quality would be good, and any soundboard from 2008 would be nice too.
My memory is hazy, wasn't Secondary Waltz played at Newcastle in 2008 as well? They definitley soundchecked it, I heard it as I was waiting to go into the Meet and Greet. :)
it sure was :-)
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I wonder why they didnt tell us this before the tour - it would have stopped a lot of 'pro' recording equipment getting through.
Also - anyone know about the earlier shows i.e. Newcastle etc. Are they likely to be released?
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Anyone know if there are gaps between each track or can they be compiled to play seamlessly?
Thanks
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Is anyone else out there unhappy with the mixing on some of the tunes from Simfy? I'm talking specifically about Speedway where Mike's whistle is far too loud and drowns out everything else. Also Richard's guitar seems to have gone AWOL. WAM is another and again it's the whistle that's overbearing, drowning out every other instrument. Is it Mike who mixes these or what!
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Is anyone else out there unhappy with the mixing on some of the tunes from Simfy? I'm talking specifically about Speedway where Mike's whistle is far too loud and drowns out everything else. Also Richard's guitar seems to have gone AWOL. WAM is another and again it's the whistle that's overbearing, drowning out every other instrument. Is it Mike who mixes these or what!
meee in every recording its the same poor ritchar i CANT hear him during speedway, but this is like this in the simify recs only or during the shows too?
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Is anyone else out there unhappy with the mixing on some of the tunes from Simfy? I'm talking specifically about Speedway where Mike's whistle is far too loud and drowns out everything else. Also Richard's guitar seems to have gone AWOL. WAM is another and again it's the whistle that's overbearing, drowning out every other instrument. Is it Mike who mixes these or what!
meee in every recording its the same poor ritchar i CANT hear him during speedway, but this is like this in the simify recs only or during the shows too?
Definitively NO, front row you can hear him play LOUD on his Les Paul
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Is anyone else out there unhappy with the mixing on some of the tunes from Simfy? I'm talking specifically about Speedway where Mike's whistle is far too loud and drowns out everything else. Also Richard's guitar seems to have gone AWOL. WAM is another and again it's the whistle that's overbearing, drowning out every other instrument. Is it Mike who mixes these or what!
meee in every recording its the same poor ritchar i CANT hear him during speedway, but this is like this in the simify recs only or during the shows too?
Definitively NO, front row you can hear him play LOUD on his Les Paul
Anywhere in the hall you can hear Richard hammer those power chords and on the audience recordings too ;D
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I wonder why they didnt tell us this before the tour - it would have stopped a lot of 'pro' recording equipment getting through.
Also - anyone know about the earlier shows i.e. Newcastle etc. Are they likely to be released?
Simon, unfortunately it doesn't appear that they will, see this post from jbaent
http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=1346.msg24345#msg24345
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They also told me that in the near future the rest of the shows after Budapest will appear as pre-order, but there is nothing yet :o
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Is anyone else out there unhappy with the mixing on some of the tunes from Simfy? I'm talking specifically about Speedway where Mike's whistle is far too loud and drowns out everything else. Also Richard's guitar seems to have gone AWOL. WAM is another and again it's the whistle that's overbearing, drowning out every other instrument. Is it Mike who mixes these or what!
meee in every recording its the same poor ritchar i CANT hear him during speedway, but this is like this in the simify recs only or during the shows too?
Definitively NO, front row you can hear him play LOUD on his Les Paul
Anywhere in the hall you can hear Richard hammer those power chords and on the audience recordings too ;D
But excepted on the Simfy pro record :(
Maybe we could petionize asking for more Richard in the mix ;)
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I wonder why they didnt tell us this before the tour - it would have stopped a lot of 'pro' recording equipment getting through.
Also - anyone know about the earlier shows i.e. Newcastle etc. Are they likely to be released?
Simon, unfortunately it doesn't appear that they will, see this post from jbaent
http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=1346.msg24345#msg24345
Shame :-(
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German recordings are better mixed...
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According to www.markknopfler.com:
All Mark's European shows are being recorded by Music Networx and are available for purchase either on a USB stick or download.
What about UK gigs? The first RAH date only is available!!
UK is part of European leg IMHO.
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We don't like to be associated with mainland Europe, we are an island here in Great Britain. ;)
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all UK sohws will be released, they are mixing the earlier ones now. RAH demands 5000 pounds fee per night for the remaining RAH shows. so that is still under discussion.
they will also record all the shows, until the end of the tour, coz earlier it was mentioned they would only remain onboard until the end of june.
and a little birdie mentioned there will be at least one show that will be filmed, in switzerland, all i can say is "...smoooooke on the waaaaaater.....a fire in the skyeee"
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all UK sohws will be released, they are mixing the earlier ones now. RAH demands 5000 pounds fee per night for the remaining RAH shows. so that is still under discussion.
they will also record all the shows, until the end of the tour, coz earlier it was mentioned they would only remain onboard until the end of june.
and a little birdie mentioned there will be at least one show that will be filmed, in switzerland, all i can say is "...smoooooke on the waaaaaater.....a fire in the skyeee"
Good news Pottel! Maybe I'll get to see a show after all.................. :lol :-X
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all UK sohws will be released, they are mixing the earlier ones now. RAH demands 5000 pounds fee per night for the remaining RAH shows. so that is still under discussion.
they will also record all the shows, until the end of the tour, coz earlier it was mentioned they would only remain onboard until the end of june.
and a little birdie mentioned there will be at least one show that will be filmed, in switzerland, all i can say is "...smoooooke on the waaaaaater.....a fire in the skyeee"
Pottel - may I ask what your source is for these terrific breaking news ? or at least, if you consider this source 100% reliable ?
Thanks
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One more question, I think GF said on his forum that previous tour recordings were not te be issued.
Nonetheless, it would be very easy for them:
1/To re-release the 2005 digital downloads, now that Passalong went bust and that they are nowhere to be found officially,
2/To release the 2008 concerts that GF said were recorded,
3/Let's dream, to release the video of "An evening with MK" (Hurlingham 2009) which is very sweet, even if not a full live concert, and is only available on "Pay per view" on I-concerts or some telecom operators services...
What do you guys think ?
Hurlingham was broadcast on TV and is available in DVD quality on the tracker, so I don't need an official release of that.
But 2005 in 320kbps quality would be good, and any soundboard from 2008 would be nice too.
My memory is hazy, wasn't Secondary Waltz played at Newcastle in 2008 as well? They definitley soundchecked it, I heard it as I was waiting to go into the Meet and Greet. :)
Yes, I've no interest in a release of the Hurlingham gig either and as the 2008 shows were almost the same as the current ones but less well played then I've no interest in their release either. Secondary Waltz was played in Newcastle and Edinburgh. I'm pretty sure it was played one of the nights at the RAH too when Joe Brown wasn't there. Does anyone remember for sure?
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all UK sohws will be released, they are mixing the earlier ones now. RAH demands 5000 pounds fee per night for the remaining RAH shows. so that is still under discussion.
they will also record all the shows, until the end of the tour, coz earlier it was mentioned they would only remain onboard until the end of june.
and a little birdie mentioned there will be at least one show that will be filmed, in switzerland, all i can say is "...smoooooke on the waaaaaater.....a fire in the skyeee"
Pottel - may I ask what your source is for these terrific breaking news ? or at least, if you consider this source 100% reliable ?
Thanks
based on many assumptions and some little birdie.
(montreux is ALWAYS taped and filmed by the festival owner)
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all UK sohws will be released, they are mixing the earlier ones now. RAH demands 5000 pounds fee per night for the remaining RAH shows. so that is still under discussion.
they will also record all the shows, until the end of the tour, coz earlier it was mentioned they would only remain onboard until the end of june.
and a little birdie mentioned there will be at least one show that will be filmed, in switzerland, all i can say is "...smoooooke on the waaaaaater.....a fire in the skyeee"
Pottel - may I ask what your source is for these terrific breaking news ? or at least, if you consider this source 100% reliable ?
Thanks
based on many assumptions and some little birdie.
(montreux is ALWAYS taped and filmed by the festival owner)
Can I add "even if they are denied right to broadcast (as for a Clapton 9x show who only allowed 1 song)" as Claude Nobs did literally spend numerous hours of efforts and money to track and save historic recordings from the early festivals that were promised to destruction.
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Pottel, there is any special reason why the reamining european dates are not anounced to pre-order in the site if they already know they are going to be until the end of the tour?
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no idea.
i don't worry though.. ;)
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Pottel, congratulations! You've got this year's Knopflerado story teller and news breaker!!! ;D ;D ;D
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In Cologne we had a little chat with Ulf from simfy, and he confirmed that all european dates will be available, except the RAH Shows. They are negotiating with the RAH at the moment, because they just want too much money, but there
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Thats great news, but I
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In Cologne we had a little chat with Ulf from simfy, and he confirmed that all european dates will be available, except the RAH Shows. They are negotiating with the RAH at the moment, because they just want too much money, but there
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Not sure if anyone else has noticed it, but one strange thing I've found about these Simfy Live soundboards is the sound of DC's cymbals. One moment they sound "bright" and then a few seconds later they sound "dull" again. I heard it in the Oslo recording at first. Perhaps it's just the way he plays.
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Not sure if anyone else has noticed it, but one strange thing I've found about these Simfy Live soundboards is the sound of DC's cymbals. One moment they sound "bright" and then a few seconds later they sound "dull" again. I heard it in the Oslo recording at first. Perhaps it's just the way he plays.
Hello Dan,
Listen to any version of 'Sultans' from this tour and you will know what I am talking about here...
Having both the RAH and Luxemburg shows courtesy of 'Simfy' and also having seen DC play on this tour, I can comment the following - Danny merely alternates between his 'Hi-hat' and his 'Ride' cymbal, thus the 'Hi hat' sound is very 'bright and 'whispy' and his 'ride' cymbal a lot duller. An example of this is If you listen to Sultans, you can hear what I am talking about as he plays the 'Hi-hat' for one verse then alternates with the 'Ride' the next.
For those that are interested DC's Hi-Hat's are 15" Zildjan 'New Beats' and the lower cymbal is placed at an angle to allow 'air' to escape - thus the magnificent 'whispy' sound he gets from them!!
Give Sultans a listen and hear those cymbal changes!!!...
Cheers
Steve
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Great news about the 'Simfy' recordings from the UK dates going to be released. I will look forward to a copy of the Bournemouth show and that awesome 'Donegans gone' from that excellent night's show!!!!
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Not sure if anyone else has noticed it, but one strange thing I've found about these Simfy Live soundboards is the sound of DC's cymbals. One moment they sound "bright" and then a few seconds later they sound "dull" again. I heard it in the Oslo recording at first. Perhaps it's just the way he plays.
Hello Dan,
Listen to any version of 'Sultans' from this tour and you will know what I am talking about here...
Having both the RAH and Luxemburg shows courtesy of 'Simfy' and also having seen DC play on this tour, I can comment the following - Danny merely alternates between his 'Hi-hat' and his 'Ride' cymbal, thus the 'Hi hat' sound is very 'bright and 'whispy' and his 'ride' cymbal a lot duller. An example of this is If you listen to Sultans, you can hear what I am talking about as he plays the 'Hi-hat' for one verse then alternates with the 'Ride' the next.
For those that are interested DC's Hi-Hat's are 15" Zildjan 'New Beats' and the lower cymbal is placed at an angle to allow 'air' to escape - thus the magnificent 'whispy' sound he gets from them!!
Give Sultans a listen and hear those cymbal changes!!!...
Cheers
Steve
Ah, there you go. Thanks for that explanation, Steve!
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No problem Dan...
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Meant to say, Danny was doing something amazing that I've never seen any drummer do before, he was doing this quick alternating thing between the ride and the hi-hat. Hard to explain, but very cool.
His overall performance was excellent (Telegraph Road stood out though) and I gladly take back my earlier comments about him and would now gladly have him in my "dream team". :)
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Meant to say, Danny was doing something amazing that I've never seen any drummer do before, he was doing this quick alternating thing between the ride and the hi-hat. Hard to explain, but very cool.
His overall performance was excellent (Telegraph Road stood out though) and I gladly take back my earlier comments about him and would now gladly have him in my "dream team". :)
I've noticed the changing last night too during Sultans. :)
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Meant to say, Danny was doing something amazing that I've never seen any drummer do before, he was doing this quick alternating thing between the ride and the hi-hat. Hard to explain, but very cool.
His overall performance was excellent (Telegraph Road stood out though) and I gladly take back my earlier comments about him and would now gladly have him in my "dream team". :)
I've noticed the changing last night too during Sultans. :)
Yes it is rather good isn't it!! DC is obviously a 'natural'!!
what earlier comments were they?
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There was a thread asking people to select their dream line up for MK's band.
Lots of people selected Danny as a very nice chap but I argued for Chad as the better drummer. However in my opinion Danny has got better and better and is now well worthy of inclusion. :)
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But a jazz drummer like John Densmore could be an interesting experience for Mark.
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But a jazz drummer like John Densmore could be an interesting experience for Mark.
Pick was eseentially a jazz drummer wasn't he?
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But a jazz drummer like John Densmore could be an interesting experience for Mark.
Pick was eseentially a jazz drummer wasn't he?
And was the reason why I have needed some time to enjoy Terry's playing.
But during the BIA tour he was just fabulous.
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But a jazz drummer like John Densmore could be an interesting experience for Mark.
Doors fan, eh? Always admired his work on Riders On the Storm.
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There was a thread asking people to select their dream line up for MK's band.
Lots of people selected Danny as a very nice chap but I argued for Chad as the better drummer. However in my opinion Danny has got better and better and is now well worthy of inclusion. :)
Chad's drumming was good but and think that Danny is far, far better.
I did like Pick, Terry Williams and finally Chris Whitten and can't choose between any of them but Danny seems to be able to suit the mood these days if you know what I mean?
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No, no, no, Chad was MK's best drummer!
LE
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I didn´t put my usb stick in my computer, so I found that there is a flash aplication to listen to the concerts, like this
(http://s2.subirimagenes.com/privadas/previo/thump_1057748usbscreen.jpg)
Link http://www.subirimagenes.com/privadas-usbscreen-1057748.html
It looks quite nice!
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I have seen the concert of Budapest (4 july) is not available for download, only usb order.
Is there any news about it??
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I have seen the concert of Budapest (4 july) is not available for download, only usb order.
Is there any news about it??
No, I mentioned the same here, but nobody answered
http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=1449.msg27134#msg27134
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Has anybody tried asking them?
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No I didn't I was wondering if anybody had.
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No I didn't I was wondering if anybody had.
I did, and after that, I received an answer telling that "everything is online" and less than one minute after, it was. It only took 5 days for Budapest show to be uploaded, but finally it is :)
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I have seen the concert of Budapest (4 july) is not available for download, only usb order.
Is there any news about it??
MP3 Download of Budapest Show is Now Available....
http://simfylive.com/en/artist/3272/live-recordings/3127/4856/Mark-Knopfler-Get-Lucky-Tour---Live-in-Budapest.html
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No I didn't I was wondering if anybody had.
I did, and after that, I received an answer telling that "everything is online" and less than one minute after, it was. It only took 5 days for Budapest show to be uploaded, but finally it is :)
Good news, thanks for checking with them for us. I am not interested in that one but it's nice to know everything is working fine (even late).
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The italian dates aren't yet available for download, only sub order...
Anybody have some news about it?
Thank you
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The italian dates aren't yet available for download, only sub order...
Anybody have some news about it?
Thank you
Simpfy people says that in 72 hours they
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The italian dates aren't yet available for download, only sub order...
Anybody have some news about it?
Thank you
Simpfy people says that in 72 hours they
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Just checked simfylive. The Italian shows are available...
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Just checked simfylive. The Italian shows are available...
Great!!! I guess I got used to have the mp3 downloads the morning after and now they are taking their time to upload them I fear they will stop. Spanish shows are the last ones, LOL
;D
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MK simfy recordings are not available in the USA, but they have offices there
http://simfylive.com/en/privacy-policy.html
And here
http://www.musicnetworx.net/home/
In selection of their clients you can see that Warner Bros are one of their clients too
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I hope that now that the tour is over, they upload the previous concerts from Ireland, Scotland and UK...
Did any of you have any news regarding this? I e-mailed them without answer yet
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I got this reply
Because of license reasons, we don't offer the recording of Mark Knopfler at the RAH London (except for 30th May). We are (most probably) being unable to offer the London recordings (after the 30th of May) in future. We haven't recorded the MK gigs of Dublin, Belfast, Glasgow, Newcastle, Birmingham, Manchester, Cardiff, Brighton or Bournemouth.
Wasn
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I got this reply
Because of license reasons, we don't offer the recording of Mark Knopfler at the RAH London (except for 30th May). We are (most probably) being unable to offer the London recordings (after the 30th of May) in future. We haven't recorded the MK gigs of Dublin, Belfast, Glasgow, Newcastle, Birmingham, Manchester, Cardiff, Brighton or Bournemouth.
Wasn
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I haven't been near to the internet for the last two weeks, but this morning I noticed that the price of USB sticks and MP3 downloads have been reduced in price. :) I have already bought RAH, Antwerp and Frankfurt, but I am now thinking of buying Locarno too. Has anyone heard the Locarno recording?
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I haven't been near to the internet for the last two weeks, but this morning I noticed that the price of USB sticks and MP3 downloads have been reduced in price. :) I have already bought RAH, Antwerp and Frankfurt, but I am now thinking of buying Locarno too. Has anyone heard the Locarno recording?
Checked in
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I haven't been near to the internet for the last two weeks, but this morning I noticed that the price of USB sticks and MP3 downloads have been reduced in price. :) I have already bought RAH, Antwerp and Frankfurt, but I am now thinking of buying Locarno too. Has anyone heard the Locarno recording?
Checked in
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Wasn
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Answer from Ulf
We already have got the files and will start mixing them within the next three weeks. It will take still a little time until the shows are done but when you calculate est. 4 weeks it should fit. Let me come back to you when things are done. Actually the mobile has just returned and I am on tour again. When I have got a little rest we'll start. Thanks for your patience - Ulf R.
Lets wait then, I really hope they don
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Answer from Ulf
We already have got the files and will start mixing them within the next three weeks. It will take still a little time until the shows are done but when you calculate est. 4 weeks it should fit. Let me come back to you when things are done. Actually the mobile has just returned and I am on tour again. When I have got a little rest we'll start. Thanks for your patience - Ulf R.
Lets wait then, I really hope they don
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Answer from Ulf
We already have got the files and will start mixing them within the next three weeks. It will take still a little time until the shows are done but when you calculate est. 4 weeks it should fit. Let me come back to you when things are done. Actually the mobile has just returned and I am on tour again. When I have got a little rest we'll start. Thanks for your patience - Ulf R.
Lets wait then, I really hope they don
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They are not going to release US shows, you know, legal issues, Warner owns Mk rights in the US, and Universal in Europe...
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They can't even sell the european show over there :disbelief
This is buissness in its gloriest manner :o
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They are not going to release US shows, you know, legal issues, Warner owns Mk rights in the US, and Universal in Europe...
What about Zimbabwe ?
Zimwhat????
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If you look here
http://simfylive.com/en/artist/3272/live-dates/Mark-Knopfler.html
There are a few 2008 dates, and also the remaining 2010 european dates, just the dates, not links to downloads or anything...
Do you think does it means anything? We know that Ulf had the remaining european dates tapes, but this 2008 dates, I don
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looks like 2008 german and (one) austrian dates only...specific reason?
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I don
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Not that strange ... I don't know what is the deal between Simfy and MK but obviously the venues have a key role in the negotiation.
I assume Ulf has nice a relationship or a global deal with the german/austrian venues. Or it's just easier for him to get the recordings / rights because it is innerhalb Deutschland.
If ever there is chance for 2008 recordings to see the light, it's very logical to start working on these ones.
I'm pretty optimistic, especially because the copyright-nightmare shows (USA-Canada 2010 and RAH 2008) are not listed. ;D
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But the recordings are supposed to be made by them. Moreover they are more of a current tour issuing company than an archival live recording scheme. But of course I would be delighted to get both 2008 Amsterdam shows in sbd quality.
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no one from simfy has said that the recordings "need to come from them"
i mean, the recordings Ulf was supposedly working on from the pre london shows were also recordings made by the band.
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no one from simfy has said that the recordings "need to come from them"
i mean, the recordings Ulf was supposedly working on from the pre london shows were also recordings made by the band.
But in the deal between MK and them were they supposed to be? That leave another one question : what was the original plan?* Why pre-London show were not recorded? An easy answer would be contractual things not cleared in time to start the recording... Just guesses
*: remember 2005...what was supposed to be and how it ended.
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no one from simfy has said that the recordings "need to come from them"
i mean, the recordings Ulf was supposedly working on from the pre london shows were also recordings made by the band.
You mean this equipment:
(http://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/images/cms/diaries/GL%202010%20Tour%20Diary%20images/Rehearsals/RehPt2DDrecordingrigs.jpg)
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no one from simfy has said that the recordings "need to come from them"
i mean, the recordings Ulf was supposedly working on from the pre london shows were also recordings made by the band.
But in the deal between MK and them were they supposed to be? That leave another one question : what was the original plan?* Why pre-London show were not recorded? An easy answer would be contractual things not cleared in time to start the recording... Just guesses
*: remember 2005...what was supposed to be and how it ended.
Yeah, 2005 was a bit of a farce in terms of the organisation surrounding the recordings and distribution. But this time around, whatever happens (or does not happen) with the UK gigs, 43 recordings from the European leg of the tour is a pretty good result.
Just got me wondering. Out of the 43 available, how many have you guys bought?
I've got 13. I only intended to buy 2 or 3, but the tempation was too great. I will also be buying a few more UK shows if and when they appear.
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I have six, but hopefully, when the UK shows emerge, I will buy the four shows I attended. I really love the ones I already have! :P
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Val - have i missed something but are more UK shows due to be released? ???
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Hi Schmonka, I don't have any UK shows, apart from RAH, but when Ulf eventually works on the recordings of the other UK and Dublin shows, I will buy the ones I attended - Dublin, Manchester, Brighton and Bournemouth. All the other recordings I have are from Europe. :)
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Hi all,
we got now Newcastle and Glasgow in Simfy. ;D
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Newcastle and Glascow are now available for purchase from Simfy:
http://simfylive.com/en/artist/3272/live-recordings/Mark-Knopfler.html?i=a7e08d3659-c5cc8eac6
Get Lucky Tour - Live in Newcastle - 2010/05/22 Newcastle $18.99
Get Lucky Tour - Live in Glasgow - 2010/05/21 Glasgow $18.99
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Great news ;D
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sweeeeetttttt.... ;D
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Nice ! Just bought them both. 11 concerts now... spending too much !
Why Aye Man (why did Simfy has to name it Why Eye Man !!) is very nice, nicer than Luxembourg I think.
Also to note, Wild Theme, which we missed so far, (and not Going Home as stated by Simfy), are quite different on both concerts, one with Accordeon, not the other one !
I'll guess we'll never have Remembrance Day and Going Home from the US shows...
But we might get Going Home, Cannibals, TLWNF, DSGTK and above all, Postcards from Paraguay, from the 2008 shows !!! yes !!!
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Great news! Dublin and the other UK shows can't be far behind! :P
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Absolutely brilliant news, and I really can't wait for the Bournemouth show to become available now!!!
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Glasgow? Wasn't that Dusty Valentinos only show? How lucky can one man be... :lol We should tell him.... Hasn't been seen around here for a while, has he?
LE
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Glasgow? Wasn't that Dusty Valentinos only show? How lucky can one man be... :lol We should tell him.... Hasn't been seen around here for a while, has he?
LE
Didnt he say his brother was getting married in some far off shore or something???? its either that or he's doing an Isaac on a Phil Collins tour :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
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he's doing an Isaac on a Phil Collins tour
He can't do that anymore, because of the restraining order ;D
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Great to finally getting also the pr
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Great news! Dublin and the other UK shows can't be far behind! :P
I would be nice to have Dublin,hopefully it will be available soon :D :D
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Unfair, I want my Simfy from the US. The ones that I attended. >:(
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Well, I could not resist and downloaded the Glasgow show this evening. Donegan's Gone alone is worth it, really cool, different to Luxembourg, the ending has something from the Sonny-Liston-Jam. Phil Cunninghams contribution is short but great. I also like that Danny starts the shaker during the introduction and Mark goes on while already playing Marbletown with Guy.. Not sure if he was about to forget him... :lol And Marbletown itself is another great version! This turns out to be Marks best live song for years...
Sound in general is good, some problems and "thunder" after Border Reiver it seems, but nice atmosphere! Now I have to listen to the rest of it!
Great to have this simfy thing! Let's hope they will put out something more...
LE
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Last night, I just wanted to listen to one or two songs, but then I was listening to the complete show at once with headphones, even Romeo, Telegraph Road and Brothers In Arms were not skipped - it was about 3:00 am when I was through.
Some observations:
Some dissonances during Coyote, but great guitar by Mark. You could see that he was "on" from this song on.
Hill Farmer: Everybody talks about goosebumps these days, at every occasion. I always thought of Goosebumps because of cold temperature and prefer more the term "shiver" as Mark used it in his first song... So I really got shivers when I heard this solo. Really phantastic.
Romeo had an unusual loud National sound, Mark was playing some interesting stuff.
Sultans was very unusual and special: Mark sang in a very "moody", rough way - which I like very much - and played some good licks. However, the very last part, the usual ending, was cut, Mark just gave a hint of the usual final. His introduction of Phil Cunningham was very nice and friendly, you could really hear how much Mark loved his appearance. So did I. Phil was on the record and therefore with them in the studio, which gives him another standing than some guests from the last tours like let's say Bonnie Raitt or Joe Brown. Mark said: "Phil played on the record, but now we gonna play some tunes that Phil doesn`t know.." with some laughter in his voice. Phil did a good job which made Mark say "Well, done, Phil!" - A very rare praise from the master in front of a great audience, notable without any doubt!
I talked about Donegan and Marbletown in my last post. Listened to both of them several times now and it is really a great 20 minutes of live atmosphere. When Mark introduces Matt Rollings and talks his usual "Food-Chain-Art-Tatum"-stuff, he mentions a new reference: The Monster Mash by Bobby Boris Pickett and the Crypt-Kickers-Five"... A nice variation and some band I never heard of before... of course...
Outstanding was also Piper to the End. I love this song in general but this version was another touching and emotional one.
Funny that I was not able to understand at least one cheer or shouting from the audience. This accent kills you I am sure. At one point Mark speaks it, too: After Bonaparte, he said to Phil "You've pleeyd beforr - one or two taimes" with a scottish accent...
Sorry for my long explanations. I short: Glasgow Show 2010: Very recommendable! ;)
LE
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They're all doing the monster mash! ;D
Could somebody explain this reference in Your Latest Trick and the concert mentioned above? Any connection or is it just a saying?
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I think it refers to the mentioned single "The Monster Mash" - from 1962. There was a dance that was orientated at the "Smashed Potatoe" dance from that era, and this dance was inspired by this song - and also called "The Monster Mash". In 1962, the BBC banned this song because it was "too morbid" with some strange sounds on it like a coffin opening and so on. So Mark maybe wanted to characterize the "morbid" atmosphere in Your Latest Trick , when Prehistoric garbage trucks Have the city to themselves Echoes and roars, dinosaurs They're all doing the monster mash
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Source: Wikipedia! ;D
This is from YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0thH3qnHTbI
LE
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Just downloaded the Newcastle show. Like Dusty, it was my only gig this tour.
The first note (MK holds it a few seconds before playing the 2nd note) on 'Going Home' literally made the hairs stand up on my neck (it always does actually!) - it was like reliving the entire show.
Hats off to Simfy and PC and Mk for making this possible. It is certainly a new concept in 'bootlegging' :-)
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LE, Thank you for your review of the Glasgow concert. I will bear it in mind to buy if the concerts I attended don't appear. In fact I may buy it anyway! :)
Tallgren, The Monster Mash was a song from the early 60's by Bobby (Boris) Pickett! :) (Sorry, I overlapped ) ;D
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It goes on and on:
At Simfy,
BIRMINGHAM AND CARDIFF are available! as Download AND also as Stick
MANCHESTER only as Stick, so far...
LE
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It goes on and on:
At Simfy,
BIRMINGHAM AND CARDIFF are available! as Download AND also as Stick
MANCHESTER only as Stick, so far...
LE
MANCHESTER is also on download
http://simfylive.com/en/artist/3272/live-recordings/3075/4739/Mark-Knopfler-Get-Lucky-Tour---Live-in-Manchester.html
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Thank yoooou! :D I'm going to download Manchester right now! ;D
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Yeah, I think they are just working on it right now! Let's have a look what is coming up next. I was coincidentally at their site at the right moment obviously! :)
However, they do not have it in their directory on the left side. There are mentioned 48 sticks, but 47 downloads, and Manchester has a 1 in brackets...
LE
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Yeah, I think they are just working on it right now! Let's have a look what is coming up next. I was coincidentally at their site at the right moment obviously! :)
However, they do not have it in their directory on the left side. There are mentioned 48 sticks, but 47 downloads, and Manchester has a 1 in brackets...
LE
On my screen number is 48 for both - or maybe Germany is excluded?
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Let's hope not. Newcastle, Glasgow and Cardiff are available, only Manchester is not. But let's not be impatient... I do not plan to download it anyway.
All the setlists are the same, apart from maybe Monteleone or Get Lucky which I have from Hamburg and London. I wonder why there is not any other
version of "Cleaning My Gun"....
LE
EDIT: They fixed it, Manchester now both available Stick and Download, in Germany also...
Cool!
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Listening to Manchester now! So far so good - just starting Sailing to Philadelphia. Sound is very good too! :)
LE, You mentioned that MK's guitar is loud for R&J on the Glasgow recording. It is the same on the Manchester recording too, in fact MK is very prominent - more so than on my other Simfy recordings! R&J is beautiful! :)
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these are the band's recordings people, let's not forget!!!
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Pottel, That is what I meant - these recordings may sound a bit different to the other Simfy recordings. Not worse or better, just different! :)
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these are the band's recordings people, let's not forget!!!
Pottel, That is what I meant - these recordings may sound a bit different to the other Simfy recordings. Not worse or better, just different! :)
what do you mean?
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these are the band's recordings people, let's not forget!!!
Pottel, That is what I meant - these recordings may sound a bit different to the other Simfy recordings. Not worse or better, just different! :)
what do you mean?
Just different! I like it! :)
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Yeah Pottel, what do you mean? ???
Underlined and bold, did I mention something wrong? You sureley agree that all those Simfy recordings are mixed slightly different as a matter of fact?
LE
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lol, no, just that these were not the simfy recs. but the ones handed over to them by the band, and therefore interesting to hear that you all find them to sound "different"
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and they had far more time for these, to be "produced"...
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Well, I am able to compare the Simfy recordings from Hamburg, London and Luxembourg with the "new" one from Glasgow, and so I am right so say that
Glasgow sounds different... ;D And better I would say. Who did the mix on these then? The FOH man, forgot his name?
LE
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and they had far more time for these, to be "produced"...
I think it shows! :) The sound is very clear, all the instruments can be heard - MK's voice feels very close. I think they did a good job! :)
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Who did the mix on these then? The FOH man, forgot his name?
LE
Dave Dixon.
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Because they sound different I would not say that both Glasgow or Newcastle sound better than those recorded by Simfy. Actualy when listening to HFB the bass line sound lower in the mix whereas on that song it is an important part to my ears. And unfortunately Richard's Les Paul "deafening power chords" are still buried in the mix during SAN but generally speaking I found that Mark's guitars sound stronger than on the Simfy. So unless I can make my own subjective mix from the multi-channel source I will be a sort of a never fully satisfied listener on that matter.
So I hope to be able to win someday a "do your own mix at BG studio" competition prize ;)
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lol, no, just that these were not the simfy recs. but the ones handed over to them by the band, and therefore interesting to hear that you all find them to sound "different"
aaaah I didn't know that
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I knew TR was amazing when I was at the concert and now I know I was not wrong! Fantastic! ;D
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The mix on TR at Newcastle really highlights Mike McGoldricks flute playing during the guitar solo (MM actually plays alongside Mk during the solo) - I had not heard it at the concert - not sure though whether it should be there or not as it occasionally overpowers MKs guitar and does not add anything to the song.
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Simon, Are you sure you mean TR, because on all the clips I have seen, Mike is playing a stringed instrument, which could be a cittern and there is no flute on my recording. Did you mean Speedway, perhaps? ;)
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Superval - I bow to your superior knowledge on this matter ;)- yes I did mean Speedway. Sorry for the confusion.
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A quick question re the Simfy downloads. Does anyone know if they are encoded in any way?
I ask this because i was able to convert them to wav files and burn to CD and i could also play the MP3s through my PC.
However when I put the MP3s onto an SD card and tried playing them through the car stereo it would not recognise the files. I tried various bitrates from 320 down to 128 and the result was the same.
Anyone else had this problem?
Thanks
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i know what you mean simon, i found it odd to hear a flute in that song, during those passages, not that it sounded bad, it was just to hear there.
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It seemed so odd because it was like the guitar solo was being mimicked or competed with on the flute. That part of the song should be the screaming guitar - not a sympathetic flute also - just my opinion of course. Sounds like MM was being made to work for his salary:-)
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However when I put the MP3s onto an SD card and tried playing them through the car stereo it would not recognise the files. I tried various bitrates from 320 down to 128 and the result was the same.
Anyone else had this problem?
Thanks
Just try to rename the files and make them shorter. I think that the file names are too long for some devices or softwares.
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Wow that sounds so logical it has to be the answer - thank you.
I am sure it will work.
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Hmm it didn't work - i still get a message saying 'data corrupted' yet i have tried various SD cards and the same method that i always use for copying MP3s to the cards.
Anyone else had this problem?
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Try to burn them on CD and listen in your car, if that works out, it must work for SD as well! Do you have the good extension, does your car read mp3 or other extensions? Maybe you can use Switch Sound File Converter (free) for changing the files.
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Well, I noticed some problems too. At home I have a Roland Sonic Cell (a sound module for keyboards) with USB slot and the possibility to play mp3's (and few other formats) via the device. For some reason, the simfy recordings can't be played (even when copied to another USB stick). :)
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I have a technical querie because I am a total computer-muppet...
So how comes: I tried this: When I go to the Simfy-page directly I will have all 48 shows as download and as stick. But when I follow f.e. the MK.COM site-link or the link on Jeroen's page (www.what-it-is.nl), it will show only 47 downloads, without Manchester. Are these links somewhat not "fresh" or what? Just curious... Please enlighten me! :disbelief
LE
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Same for me
explanation : the link are not the same
wiis.nl : http://www.simfylive.de/en/shop/29388/live-recordings/Mark-Knopfler.html
google :http://simfylive.com/de/artist/3272/live-recordings/Mark-Knopfler.html
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Try to burn them on CD and listen in your car, if that works out, it must work for SD as well! Do you have the good extension, does your car read mp3 or other extensions? Maybe you can use Switch Sound File Converter (free) for changing the files.
Yes I have tried all that Ingridswing. And I use Switch too:-)
It works for all other sounds and music - i simply convert to MP3 then laod them onto SD. But the MK ones don't do this for some reason - I am guessing it is copyright protection but its odd considering i can make wav files and distribute that way. Also i can play the mps on media player on pc.
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The file is not protected but I did not find the encoder is used to generate.
Maybe you could contact Simfy about this.
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It works for all other sounds and music - i simply convert to MP3 then laod them onto SD. But the MK ones don't do this for some reason - I am guessing it is copyright protection but its odd considering i can make wav files and distribute that way. Also i can play the mps on media player on pc.
perhaps your car stereo system needs special ( eventually LAME ) encoded mp3 files ? Analyzing the simfy mp3's shows that they are not LAME encoded .... contrary to all music which I converted in the past myself on my PC and are all playable on different mp3-players.
Try to convert with your conversion program the simfy mp3 files again to mp3 format ... so they should be encoded the same way as all your other mp3's, which were working so far.
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It works for all other sounds and music - i simply convert to MP3 then laod them onto SD. But the MK ones don't do this for some reason - I am guessing it is copyright protection but its odd considering i can make wav files and distribute that way. Also i can play the mps on media player on pc.
perhaps your car stereo system needs special ( eventually LAME ) encoded mp3 files ? Analyzing the simfy mp3's shows that they are not LAME encoded .... contrary to all music which I converted in the past myself on my PC and are all playable on different mp3-players.
Try to convert with your conversion program the simfy mp3 files again to mp3 format ... so they should be encoded the same way as all your other mp3's, which were working so far.
Interesting.
I saw that the encoder id tag was empty but did you find what encoder they are using, or at least how do you know that it is not LAME.
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I see the difference after analyzing the files with codecinstaller (freeware). On all the simfy mp3's no LAME encoding is detected whereas for all my own mp3-files LAME encoding is indicated. I'm not sure but probably this fact can be helpful.
I'm quite sure there is no copy protection on the simfy files. I've copied the files 1:1 ( without any conversion ) to two different mp3-players and all worked perfect. Simon's car mp3-player can't work with the original simfy mp3 format, but should do it IMHO after Simon converts the files the same way as he has done in the past with all his other mp3's, which were working well in the car ... at least I hope so. ;)
@Simon: what is the name of your car stereo system ?
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Try to burn them on CD and listen in your car, if that works out, it must work for SD as well! Do you have the good extension, does your car read mp3 or other extensions? Maybe you can use Switch Sound File Converter (free) for changing the files.
For Car Audio playing you could try buring them as WAV files.....that works in my car.... that approach works for me!
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Still four more shows to be uploaded, it looks like next two will be Brighton and Bournemouth. I
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I see the difference after analyzing the files with codecinstaller (freeware). On all the simfy mp3's no LAME encoding is detected whereas for all my own mp3-files LAME encoding is indicated. I'm not sure but probably this fact can be helpful.
I'm quite sure there is no copy protection on the simfy files. I've copied the files 1:1 ( without any conversion ) to two different mp3-players and all worked perfect. Simon's car mp3-player can't work with the original simfy mp3 format, but should do it IMHO after Simon converts the files the same way as he has done in the past with all his other mp3's, which were working well in the car ... at least I hope so. ;)
@Simon: what is the name of your car stereo system ?
The system is one of Audi's own branded I think. It is 3 years old which may be the problem - I will use the wav files to generate new MP3s - that should work. Thanks for all the interesting comments though.
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Still four more shows to be uploaded, it looks like next two will be Brighton and Bournemouth. I
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Using the wav files to generate new MP3s didn't work either. Eventually I burned the wavs to CD - then ripped the audio from the CD - converted it to MP3 and as if by magic! :-) Very strange way to go about it though.
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Uff! As you said, it
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The files are not in a folder on the SD card and I use a different programme to rip and burn as i do to convert. But it is something I have done for a long time without problems then all of a sudden! :-)
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Carsten, from Simfy, has confirmed me that the 4 remaining shows previous to London will be uploaded soon, and that will be all, so no 2008 concerts nor the remaining shows from the RAH.
No answer from Ulf yet ;D
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Thanks for the info! :)
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Carsten, from Simfy, has confirmed me that the 4 remaining shows previous to London will be uploaded soon, and that will be all, so no 2008 concerts nor the remaining shows from the RAH.
No answer from Ulf yet ;D
Bad news, I really want those 2008 Recs
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The good news is though that we can assume by the fact that they have gone back to do these older shows that the Simfy experiment has been a success. If sales had been poor they wouldn't have released Glasgow, so hopefully we will get these again on the next tour... if there is one. ;)
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The fact that so many live shows have been released (EDITED) could be a signal indeed for lesser live output in the next few years... I don't want to be negative, but I had that feeling earlier... Maybe Mark has fulfilled a contract and reached the number of records so that he is approaching things slower
the next years... However, it is great to have access to nearly 50 live shows, who would have thought this when the tour was announced...
LE
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The fact that so many live shows have been taken out could be a signal indeed for lesser live output in the next few years... I don't want to be negative, but I had that feeling earlier... Maybe Mark has fulfilled a contract and reached the number of records so that he is approaching things slower
the next years... However, it is great to have access to nearly 50 live shows, who would have thought this when the tour was announced...
LE
What live shows have been taken out? Don't know what you mean.
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Sorry, little mistake in my amateurish english speaking - changed it, now it is "released" .... ::)
LE
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Don't see how you reach that conclusion.
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It is just that the artist who was known for let's say "defensive" release politics suddenly comes clean with a lot of live stuff. Together with Guy Fletcher's somewhat "sad" last lines in the diary it might be possible that Mark takes a longer break this time. Of course it is just guessing.
I was thinking that everybody now is able to see how many "greenies" and little mistakes Mark produces during these shows. I did not find a single version of Sultans without mistakes for example. His perfection in former times is gone it seems. The band is really playing great and professional and has huge stake in the high quality of the Get Lucky Tour 2010.
LE
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I did not find a single version of Sultans without mistakes for example. His perfection in former times is gone it seems.
Have you listened to all 48 recordings? I am happy with most of my seven recordings and the Manchester concert is superb.
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I expected that question! :lol No, of course not all of them. Let me state that I have no problem with Mark's mistakes as long as the overall performance is good, but it is just a small hint. I do not remember any mistake in those old songs in the tours before 2001, and since then something happened with Mark's perfection obviously.
I do not prefer highly worked-on releases like "On The Night", too polished in my opinion. So I am very happy with Mark releasing his stuff in this way. It is just remarkable in my opinion, that's all.
LE
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LE, Mark has always made greenies! Even in Rockpalast there were mistakes and especially the appalling Sultans from Chicago in 2001! I think some people tend to look back through rose-tinted specs! ;D
Overall, though, the performances on these latest recordings is, imo, excellent, so I am very happy! :)
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I expected that question! :lol No, of course not all of them. Let me state that I have no problem with Mark's mistakes as long as the over all performance is good, but it is just a small hint. I do not remember any mistake in those old songs in the tours before 2001, and since then something happened with Mark's perfection obviously.
I do not prefer highly worked-on releases like "On The Night", too polished in my opinion. So I am very happy with Mark releasing his stuff in this way. It is just remarkable in my opinion, that's all.
LE
Not really remarkable, the tecnology wasn't available to release every show back in the day, we used to have plenty of live radio broadcasts etc and MK never cared about any mistakes in them.
Terrible mistake on Shangri La from NYC in 2005 (I was there, and I winced!), but that song was still released as a bonus!
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I was thinking that everybody now is able to see how many "greenies" and little mistakes Mark produces during these shows. I did not find a single version of Sultans without mistakes for example. His perfection in former times is gone it seems. The band is really playing great and professional and has huge stake in the high quality of the Get Lucky Tour 2010.
LE
Perhaps the 96ers (are they still called that?) need to have a quiet word with MK and tell him that unless he gets his guitar playing act in gear, then maybe its time they got a new lead guitarist ;D
No, of course that's not going to happen and nor should it.
Maybe the Simfy live recordings are a little too raw and this amplifies the little mistakes which you don't hear in the concert hall or on audience bootlegs. But I love them!
For every "greenie" there are a number of subtle touches from his master's fingers that would go unnoticed if not for the soundboard feeds. Roll on the next tour and more Simfy Live, please!!
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The fact that so many live shows have been released (EDITED) could be a signal indeed for lesser live output in the next few years... I don't want to be negative, but I had that feeling earlier... Maybe Mark has fulfilled a contract and reached the number of records so that he is approaching things slower
the next years... However, it is great to have access to nearly 50 live shows, who would have thought this when the tour was announced...
LE
hum...
I don't see any link between the two : releasing his live show is a subject since 2005 witht he short lived Crowfly experience. Regarding the recording contract do you mean that GL was the last album owed to Mercury?
I don't know about the current deal and sales figure but Mark not signing a new deal with a major could help him to get more freedom and avoid the nasty contractual things such as the Simfy recording unavailable to US fans.
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who knows, maybe it is a good sing that the earlier UK shows have now also been released. maybe they are still working on the US shows?
rgrds
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Just looked at the Simfy site and BRIGHTON and BOURNEMOUTH are now available! :P Just need Dublin and Belfast now. :)
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Just looked at the Simfy site and BRIGHTON and BOURNEMOUTH are now available! :P Just need Dublin and Belfast now. :)
Thanks superval - I have duly ordered the Bournemouth stick from Simfy!!!!!
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aaah bournemouth,...it ruled!!
remember us singing SFA waving and stuff, and Guy noticing it?
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Pottel, I will never forget SFA - four forumers singing and swaying together in front of MK! What fun it was! :D 8)
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Two more shows waiting... This have been a wonderful experience, I hope they do it again in the future, if any :)
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Just recieved my 'stick' from the Bournemouth show (My closest gig to home of the tour) and although I have a few of the other shows including RAH, Luxemburg, Berlin & Basel, some may say I am biased but this has to be one of the finest recordings I have heard of the tour so far.
Maybe it has made a difference with Mark's guys making the recordings but this concert recording is certainly just as we remembered it particulary with Mark's vocals and guitar dominant above the other instruments. This recording is far more bassy than any of the others giving it a bit of depth! 'Donegans gone' absolutely shines as one of my favourites from that evening and I am certainly not dissapointed with the recording of it!!
We were incidently in the 2nd row at the BIC just in front of Mark and his speaker which was awesome to say the least!!! All I can say this was money well spent and it is nice to have the gig you went to. I feel so sorry for the American guys and really wish they could release some of the American leg!! Wonder if one of those will become an official release?
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Hi knopflerfan! I am so pleased you are enjoying the Bournemouth concert just as much as I am. At the moment I am listening to the Manchester one, which I can highly recommend - it has the best TR and Marbletown I have heard so far. I'm just hoping Dublin will appear soon, because I remember it being a great concert and CMG was played too! :)
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Hi knopflerfan! I am so pleased you are enjoying the Bournemouth concert just as much as I am. At the moment I am listening to the Manchester one, which I can highly recommend - it has the best TR and Marbletown I have heard so far. I'm just hoping Dublin will appear soon, because I remember it being a great concert and CMG was played too! :)
It just brings back such happy memories of an excellent evening with the master, I also remember seeing you in the corner of the seating by the speaker!! At least we know who you are to say 'hello' next time!!
Do you agree these 'MK' recordings are far better than the originals?
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I'm just hoping Dublin will appear soon, because I remember it being a great concert and CMG was played too! :)
Cool.....
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Knopflerfan - Yes, they are very good recordings indeed, thanks to MK and crew and it is very special to have a copy of the concert you attended yourself - it makes it so much more personal, somehow! :)
Oh yes, in Bournemouth, we were on the front row, just in front of the speaker stack and I remember feeling worried that we would have ringing ears by the end of the concert, but we needn't have worried at all, because the sound was beautiful, even in front of the speakers! In fact the sound was perfect at all four of our concerts! :)
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It was a greqt first night of the tour for me, and i found it as enjoyable meeting new fans (knopflerfan, and i mean "new" to me) as well as older fans (superval, and by old...lol)
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Pottel - Brighton was the first night of the tour for you, Bournemouth was the second night - remember? ;) BTW, it's lovely to be accepted by the rest of the younger fans, it keeps us feeling young! Age is just a number! ;D You would never guess that I'm 96 next birthday, would you? :lol
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You are not!!!!!
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You are not!!!!!
Just kidding! ;)
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You are not!!!!!
Correct.
She's 97. ;)
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Belfast and Dublin are not available yet, I wonder if the gave up about MK recordings, or they would upload that two remaining shows?
Would they need any mails from us asking to see there are people that want to purchase them? Maybe they consider its not worth...
What do you think?
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I was at the Dublin concert and I would love to have a recording of such a wonderful gig, but I think these UK and Dublin concerts are so long ago now that perhaps they would not sell as well as the European concerts, when the tour was still on and people were buying USBs at the venue, or downloading when they got home. There is not enough publicity now, unless there are fans, like us, who are on a forum and aware that some of the UK concerts are now available.
I feel very fortunate that I have three out of four of my concerts, but feel very sorry for the American and Canadian fans and those who only went to Dublin or Belfast. Maybe they will turn up eventually, who knows! :-\
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I just mailed them, and it looks like if we insist, we could get the two remaining shows. I
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Thank you Jbaent. I would love the Dublin concert so I will contact them too. Did you use the Customer Service link?
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Thanks Jbaent, I'm on the case :o :o :o
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OK, I have mailed them! :)
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I have now had a reply to my email and despite having said that I have purchased all of the UK concerts I have attended and also some of the European ones, the answer was that because I am a US citizen, I am not able to purchase these concerts at the moment. :disbelief
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Did you bought them by yourself? If not, simply tell them that you have many european friends that purchased them for you, and that wasn
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Jbaent, Thanks, but the point is I am not a US citizen, I am a UK citizen! Anyway, I sent another email explaining that I am from the UK and I was then given a German email address to contact, http://www.simfylive.de/ I have now received an automated reply saying my request will be reviewed and that if the concert becomes available it will be handled solely by Music Networx :)
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Jbaent, I have been exchanging a series of emails with someone from Simfylive.de and after trying hard this is his final reply:
Hi,
just checked it again, seemst that due to some issues we are definitely not able to offer this show.
Really Sorry !
xxx
EDITED by Pottel because of privacy reasons
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Jbaent, I have been exchanging a series of emails with someone from Simfylive.de and after trying hard this is his final reply:
Hi,
just checked it again, seemst that due to some issues we are definitely not able to offer this show.
Really Sorry !
xxx
That's really too bad. I'd like him to elaborate a little on that (might find out something interesting).
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Jbaent, I have been exchanging a series of emails with someone from Simfylive.de and after trying hard this is his final reply:
Hi,
just checked it again, seemst that due to some issues we are definitely not able to offer this show.
Really Sorry !
xxx
That's really too bad. I'd like him to elaborate a little on that (might find out something interesting).
In one of his previous emails it seems he was unaware of the fact that the UK concerts had been recorded at all and I told him about the band's recordings being handed over to Simfy for us to download. I keep on hoping........ :-\
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The same happened to me. They answered me that they didnt recored Glasgow, and the rest of shows, so they wont sell them, and then I asked them "And how is that you alreay are selling Glasgow, if you didn
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Well, this topic has been death for a long time, it looks like the Simfy thing is over, and we won
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I think "at least we got 50" is slightly unterstated!
Just remember the time around tour start: What would we have said if an official live recording would have been announced? We would have all been very happy - even without video, only audio CD would have veen very much appreciated. Instead of that we really got more than half of the tour in great and complete quality. That is more than I ever expected MK to do! I am very happy with this, all those different and varying versions and great atmosphere everytime. It is really something we have to be thankful for. Other artists have done this before and more and better of course, but hey, MK is a special person, I would not have given anything if this was mentioned before the tour by some fans. My answer would have been: Yeah, would be nice, but not in MK's case, do not expect too much!"
Now we have it!
Thanks MK, thanks PC, thanks Simfy and thanks to the band for making these recordings such a pleasure.
(My theory is still:
When it was decided that Mike McGoldrick stays in the band from London on, there were possibilities checked to get him paid for another 50 shows,
so Mark said to Paul: Raise some additional money, this guy is expensive, and Paul said: Well, there IS one possibility, Mark, you know, there is the
internet, ever heard of? You can download music there....) ;D
LE
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remember that night in london LE, when it was announced? i think you were there in the queue as well right? :-)
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Yeah that's right! Those flyers were given away, I read one and couldn't believe what I saw... Then PC turned up in a very nice orange shirt and a black
suit... The weather was great as the whole day was! Hope to get there once more... And next time I will take more shows there...
LE
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Hehe, I was there too... I think I squeed hysterically and then I bumped into BBB and knopflerized ;D
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I remember the moment well!!!!!!! :D ;D
Cheers BBB
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Me too.
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Do we know if in the end these recordings have been made available to our US friends ? This situation was pretty much unbereable..
De we also know more about a possible "MK-live in Montreux" BR/DVD ? How long do Montreux staff take to negociate and release such a product, and if MK would ok it ?
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Do we know if in the end these recordings have been made available to our US friends ? This situation was pretty much unbereable..
De we also know more about a possible "MK-live in Montreux" BR/DVD ? How long do Montreux staff take to negociate and release such a product, and if MK would ok it ?
yes, very curious about that too...
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Do we know if in the end these recordings have been made available to our US friends ?
Nope.
"Sorry, but this concert cannot be purchased in your country."
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Can somebody email the Montreux people?
It's sitting in a vault! In HD!
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does anyone have the necesarry contacts to ask someone from simfy how well the recordings sold?
i am asking as guy's reply on my question was rather vague.
I would love to know for example, if there were big differences between the different shows....
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Well, I think everyone around here would go crazy if we knew before the tour started in the US that there would be ONE live recording available in Mp3. At the end, we got (what was it? over 50 shows?) soundboard quality Mp3's. Ok, it's a pity that for some fans their particular show isn't available, but to be honest, if both shows I attended were not available and only one show somewhere recorded during the tour, it would be VERY ok for me. :)
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De we also know more about a possible "MK-live in Montreux" BR/DVD ? How long do Montreux staff take to negociate and release such a product, and if MK would ok it ?
Nothing official yet but from what I know, this recording is intended to be released. Just that Madrid in 2001 was also intended to be released and to date will not.