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Title: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jbaent on June 19, 2010, 01:33:57 AM
Trying to move forward, as faster as possible, there is a new song waiting!!!!!!

To the top, please (its already June 19th LOL)

  ;D
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jbaent on June 19, 2010, 01:53:21 AM
And I hope its not R
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jimbobaby on June 19, 2010, 12:15:10 PM
According to Guy its a song that has been played on a previous gtour so that puts paid to the SFFTC or new song written on the road ideas.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: allen on June 19, 2010, 12:15:26 PM
New song   Jose Brihuega   Cadiz, Spain   19th June 2010:

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Sorry Doc for being so impatient about the song that the band is rehearshing. Was that song played on another tour? Thanks

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yes
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: marky49 on June 19, 2010, 10:40:21 PM
Fish and Bird
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: El Macho on June 19, 2010, 10:53:12 PM
The Fish and the Bird?

Cool... I would have preferred The Man's Too Strong !
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: holaknopfler on June 19, 2010, 11:12:39 PM
Preferred, pff, are we going all again folks?

Fish and the Bird is a great song to listen and must be fun for the guys to play! :D
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: El Macho on June 19, 2010, 11:25:57 PM
Of course I love this song !
It's nice to see the setlist change a little bit!
I know they rehearsed The  Man's Too Strong in 2008 and it's one of my favorite song...
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: herlock on June 19, 2010, 11:29:55 PM
Is it confirmed ?
Nice to see some changes, even if "The Fish and the Bird" is not KTGC's best song by far, I still can't understand why this and the dull TLWNF were chosen to represent an album featuring Punish the Monkey and We can Get Wild... oh well.
Man's too Strong would makes me hysterical - I did not think much of the song on the album until I saw (and heard) Wembley'85 version. Awsome !! with Mike and John the sound would be stunning...
C'mon ! let's do MTS tomorrow ! :)
And please, stop bashing Rudiger - I would love to have it as well.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: holaknopfler on June 19, 2010, 11:40:39 PM
I have to say:P I would scream like an idiot if we got MTS haha:P
Better than fish and the bird though. I like it!
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Pottel on June 20, 2010, 12:16:51 AM
man no,...no friggin fish and birdie..
it is a death point in the show...no guitar, no flow...
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dmg on June 20, 2010, 12:46:10 AM
man no,...no friggin fish and birdie..
it is a death point in the show...no guitar, no flow...

I agree.  Got to be an all time low;  possibly the worst song in his worst album.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: holaknopfler on June 20, 2010, 12:55:00 AM
Worst? I'm getting a feeling that i don't like to post anymore or read it on amit. Only complaing to mark. I'll better go away if it goes on like this..
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jbaent on June 20, 2010, 01:05:18 AM
Lars, everyone has his own opinion, and everyone is entitled to express themself, if you don
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jbaent on June 20, 2010, 01:08:50 AM
man no,...no friggin fish and birdie..
it is a death point in the show...no guitar, no flow...

I agree.  Got to be an all time low;  possibly the worst song in his worst album.

I understand that other people don
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jbaent on June 20, 2010, 01:12:36 AM
Isaac made a kind of game in his facebook about a new song played today...

he didn
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: holaknopfler on June 20, 2010, 01:13:14 AM
Jbeant, i can't stand the word worst and mk in one sentence, thats all!;)
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jbaent on June 20, 2010, 01:14:24 AM
Jbeant, i can't stand the word worst and mk in one sentence, thats all!;)

I do ;-)

But sometimes when I wanna go naive, I use the term "the less"  ;D
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: holaknopfler on June 20, 2010, 01:15:32 AM
Hahaha:p you made me laugh loud!:)
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jbaent on June 20, 2010, 01:17:49 AM
Hahaha:p you made me laugh loud!:)

That
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: holaknopfler on June 20, 2010, 01:19:37 AM
That's true! I would call it the most terrible thing that could happen to a human after mk smashing his national..
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: allen on June 20, 2010, 03:26:21 AM
The Fish and the Bird was played during this show, confirmed by Issac.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: sweetsurrender on June 20, 2010, 06:02:41 AM
KTGC is actually a nice album with lots of gems.   With the exception of TLWNF and the "fish and the bird", they are not quite my taste for songs from Mark.  I hope MK will play "we can get wild" and "punish the monkey" next tour around.

I Love "Rudiger" What a beautiful and moving song!!!
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Kay Edvin on June 20, 2010, 08:17:54 AM
Can someone please confirm the whole setlist?
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Holger_MK on June 20, 2010, 08:44:47 AM
Good morning friends. Here is the complete setlist from Leipzig:

Border Reiver
What It Is
Sailing To Philadelphia
Coyote
Prairie Wedding
Hill Farmer's Blues
Romeo & Juliet
Sultans Of Swing
Done With Bonaparte
Marbletown
The Fish And The Bird
Speedway At Nazareth
Telegraph Road

Brothers In Arms
So Far Away
Piper To The End


GL replaced by F&B.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Kay Edvin on June 20, 2010, 08:51:29 AM
Thank you Holger! :)
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jbaent on June 20, 2010, 09:21:28 AM
If the fish take the prairie place, and Donegan take the Get lucky place in the set, we will have a setlist with at least one song per MK solo cds (except the one with Emmylou)
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: xxFordiexx on June 20, 2010, 09:42:14 AM
man no,...no friggin fish and birdie..
it is a death point in the show...no guitar, no flow...

I agree.  Got to be an all time low;  possibly the worst song in his worst album.

I understand that other people don
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Tally on June 20, 2010, 10:29:54 AM
And now the tour is even more similar to the 2008 shows. I quite like The Fish on album, but live it's just a standstill.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: herlock on June 20, 2010, 10:37:15 AM
Interestingly I always seemed to regard KTGC as one of Mark's weaker albums but last week at work while I was driving around  I stuck the Album on and hadn't heard it for a while.  Low and behold Mark has done it again to me like time and time again, the album is absolutely brilliant. In my opinion i really don't think Mark writes any bad albums even if you think at the time he has. Upon listening again there are things you never heard before it is just sublime.

I just think it a mood and preference thing IMO. 

Now the tour is a different thing alltogether lol. Because I can categorically say that the GET LUCKY tour is by far one of Mark's best ever, in fact I prefer it much more than the KTGC one  ;D
100% agree with you. KTGC is quite a nice album - I find it better than SL.
Although I would much more welcome the ressurection, from 2008, of "Postcards from Paraguay" rather than Fishie and Bordie. Postcards is fantastic live and I miss it. I thought it would be the one to come back to live. Well, Guy said "songS" with an "S", right ? ;)
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jimbobaby on June 20, 2010, 11:27:57 AM
What an anticlimax!  ??? All that excitement about a new song and its, wait for it, the fish and the yawn.  An ok song on te album as far as it goes, but, as others have said, the album is very much a mood thing.  Live, this song is a excuse to go to the loo or buy a beer.  Yawn.  It also de,mands very little playing on MK's part.  I know this band is brilliant, but I'd like to hear a bit more of MK please.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Rollergirl on June 20, 2010, 11:44:28 AM
Worst? I'm getting a feeling that i don't like to post anymore or read it on amit. Only complaing to mark. I'll better go away if it goes on like this..

I'm with lars on this. Don't worry (or rather do worry!!  ;D), I have no intention of stopping to post or read but sometimes, it gets sooo negative. Mostly the comments on the setlist are from people who weren't even there! WHo was there last night, what do YOU think of the fish and the brd? How was it? I bet you loved it!

I know on the "other forum" you couldn't say anything that was slightly negative without your post being edited and that's not good at all, but sometimes it feels like we're are falling into the other extreme here and it's sooo boring. Life is too short to be moaning about things like this me thinks.

Yours faithfully- The President of all things positive.   ;D
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: localhero1986 on June 20, 2010, 11:49:54 AM
Well, actually I thought Sonny Liston would be back again... ::) :lol Fish & Bird is ok with me. :)
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dmg on June 20, 2010, 12:03:47 PM
A few points:

First of all it's already been said but I was going to say it too: what an anitclimax.
Secondly, I personally only make criticism of MK or any of him music here among good like-minded folk such as yourself so this is my only opportunity to get anything off my chest.  I never criticise him anywhere else and still think that even his worst is far better than anything else in the charts today.
Third, and back to the real topic here, maybe a new arrangement for Fish?
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Holger_MK on June 20, 2010, 12:11:15 PM
Well, I was at the show and I must say that I didn
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Justme on June 20, 2010, 12:24:11 PM
I do love the pipes, so fish and chips could become a great one.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: nando on June 20, 2010, 12:29:55 PM
can
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dmg on June 20, 2010, 12:34:03 PM
Seems they're only doing it to give Mike more to do.  They've given him more in Speedway, played WAM every chance they get and given him a lot to do in that and also A Night In Summer all just to accommodate him.  His presence in the band is starting to annoy me.  He's a great musician and probably a very nice guy but like John done in 2008, Mike is now taking over in 2010.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Holger_MK on June 20, 2010, 12:41:13 PM
Yes, thats true. I wasn
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jimbobaby on June 20, 2010, 12:41:55 PM
Worst? I'm getting a feeling that i don't like to post anymore or read it on amit. Only complaing to mark. I'll better go away if it goes on like this..

I'm with lars on this. Don't worry (or rather do worry!!  ;D), I have no intention of stopping to post or read but sometimes, it gets sooo negative. Mostly the comments on the setlist are from people who weren't even there! WHo was there last night, what do YOU think of the fish and the brd? How was it? I bet you loved it!

I know on the "other forum" you couldn't say anything that was slightly negative without your post being edited and that's not good at all, but sometimes it feels like we're are falling into the other extreme here and it's sooo boring. Life is too short to be moaning about things like this me thinks.

Yours faithfully- The President of all things positive.   ;D




The reason I didn't go this year was a combination of the dates just not fitting with my travelling/holiday commitments and the fact that, having seen MK 30 odd times, I had a feeling that the set list would be formulaic. Had the set list shown some much needed variation I would have moved heaven and earth to be there.  Now, I have purchased several of the SImfy recordings.  They are excellent and I am really enjoying listening to MK and his excellent band.  But, I am sorry, I come on this forum because we are allowed to praise and criticise in equal measure.  The music as played on this tour is brilliant, but the setlist /running order is pretty much what it has been for the last decade and, for me, that falls short of what I'd like. Notwithstanding the fact that I wasn't there last night, I don't think it is rocket science to imagine what TFATB would have sounded like - after all I heard it several time on the last tour - and it is a dull song that, to me adds nothing to the overall vibe of this setlist and, in fact detracts considerably from the mood set by either GL or even the new version of DG which it has replaced. This band has practiced TMTS and OES so why not throw one of them in just for a bit of variety and to cheer us up.

So.  Sorry if you think I am being negative.  I have been pretty positive about lots of things on this tour and still regard MK as a living legend whose music I have played just about every day.  But he doesn't get everything right .  

Sorry too if you find reasoned criticism "soooooboring" but I bet its more interesting than just reading review after review that says everything is brilliant when it isn't.  If this was just an arselickers forum I wouldn't bother coming on.  The fact that we can all say what we are feeling is what makes it interesting.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: ds1984 on June 20, 2010, 12:58:49 PM
Personal opinion : to bad that "Get Lucky" was remplaced by "Fish & Bird"

MK set list is like going to casino.



Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Pottel on June 20, 2010, 02:20:48 PM
this is a free forum. nothing bad has been said in this thread at all. let's notget over sensitive.
if you are affected by certain more negative coments, then avoid that particular thread. if you want sunshine and love and peace and no one ever says one negative word (about MK) and no setlist info, there is always the MKnews site.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Rollergirl on June 20, 2010, 02:44:07 PM
exactly, a free forum, this is why one can moan about the set list but it also means that one can moan about the moaners. and of course, you are entitled to moan about my moaning about the moaners, and I will moan about your moaning about... eeerrr, I've lost track  ;D.

The problem with the negative comments is that they pop up where you least expect them too! I was doing what you suggested and ignore the negative comments (or rather moan to myself about them) but when I saw Lars's  moan about the moaners, I thought I'd let him know he was not on his own.


Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Pottel on June 20, 2010, 02:46:40 PM
moanmoanmoan.... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Rollergirl on June 20, 2010, 03:45:42 PM
 ;D  :lol  ;D
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: ds1984 on June 20, 2010, 04:11:02 PM
Well once we have said how satisfied and pleasantly surprised we are, then come the time of "but it could have been even better...". And so on.

Perfection can be also a very depressive feeling, meaning that "you can't improve anymore".

So, I don't regret to attend that insane number of shows even if my dreamed setlist will probably never see the light.

Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jimbobaby on June 20, 2010, 08:14:59 PM
Moan moan monety moan.  Gosh I feel better for that ;D
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: goldenheart96 on June 20, 2010, 09:56:04 PM
Well, I know "Fish and the Bird" has a very, hmm, soothing effect, but I actually like that song! It shows how MK's singing has improved and it has atmosphere. If I had been in Leipzig, I would have liked the surprise.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Millionaire Blues on June 20, 2010, 10:13:55 PM
Fish and the Birds is  a truly beautiful song.....thank you MK for playing it again!!!!!!

xx
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dmg on June 20, 2010, 11:06:10 PM
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit you two! :o
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: holaknopfler on June 20, 2010, 11:16:24 PM
I like it too. You're not alone(:
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Mossguitar on June 20, 2010, 11:20:09 PM
exactly, a free forum, this is why one can moan about the set list but it also means that one can moan about the moaners. and of course, you are entitled to moan about my moaning about the moaners, and I will moan about your moaning about... eeerrr, I've lost track  ;D.

The problem with the negative comments is that they pop up where you least expect them too! I was doing what you suggested and ignore the negative comments (or rather moan to myself about them) but when I saw Lars's  moan about the moaners, I thought I'd let him know he was not on his own.



I very much agree with you and Lars! AMIT, the world,s best MK forum, has since the tour started become the dullest. It's boring to read on and on that you don't like the way the set lists change or don't change when you haven't even been there. But of course, we are all free to make a dull forum. (I know many of you think people like me are boring, people who seem to like all MK does these days. I'm not one of those. I'm just trying to balance things a bit).    
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 20, 2010, 11:54:50 PM
Surely everybody saying that they were happy with the same set being played all the time would also be boring?
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Mossguitar on June 21, 2010, 12:25:07 AM
Yes of course, Dusty, but that's not the case here, is it. My point is, when you're checking out the forum to read reviews from the concerts, all you find is people writing that they don't understand why MK play music that nobody likes. But I've said this before, so I guess I'm boring most of you now. And you can't be that bad, because I'm finding myself checking out this site many times a day ;)
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Pottel on June 21, 2010, 12:44:08 AM
Yes of course, Dusty, but that's not the case here, is it. My point is, when you're checking out the forum to read reviews from the concerts, all you find is people writing that they don't understand why MK play music that nobody likes. But I've said this before, so I guess I'm boring most of you now. And you can't be that bad, because I'm finding myself checking out this site many times a day ;)
that is not true mossguitar. do check out ANY of my show comments for the past 11 shows i went to? like just now for cologne...
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Mossguitar on June 21, 2010, 06:53:07 AM
I know, Pottel, but I am talking about the ones that has not been to the concert and goes on and on about the setlist...
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jimbobaby on June 21, 2010, 10:06:32 AM
I know, Pottel, but I am talking about the ones that has not been to the concert and goes on and on about the setlist...


Presumably that remark was aimed at me. Two things:

1.  If you actually read my posts properly you will see that I have been quite balanced in my views about the setlist.  In my "reflections from someone who wasn't there" post you will see that I said that the setlist has a decent flow and complemented the playing and excellent versions on some songs that don't work on the album.  I am loving my symfy recordings.  But only a fool would suggest that this setlist is fresh. A number of people who have reviewed the concerts very positively have mentioned a tinge of regret that, whilst brilliant, what they have seen has, by and large, been a repeat of what we have seen many times before.

2.  I fail to understand how the fact that I wasn't there disqualifies me from having an opinion.  I have heard 6 of the shows from this tour in their entirety nad have been at more MK shows than I care to remember.  I know exactly what it will have been like.  The fact that the setlist was a factor in my non-attendance makes my opinion very valid thank you very much.


Oh, and a third thing - plenty of people who did go are making comments about the setlist!
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: ds1984 on June 21, 2010, 10:06:49 AM
I know, Pottel, but I am talking about the ones that has not been to the concert and goes on and on about the setlist...

Another good reason to stay away from the setlist as long as first show has not be attended   ;)

Edit 1 : or of course listening to a recording from the current tour

Edit 2 : take any artist, people will always complain about the setlist because :

a) too much obscure song played and not enough big hits I was in for
b) opposite situation : plays only the hit but not this beautiful under rated one I was in for
c) don't make any change so boring
d) opposite situation : dawn I couldn't attend yesterday show and he did play MY song but not tonight


Basic thing I have to remember is how do I feel leaving the venue.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dannyjun on June 21, 2010, 11:03:08 AM
I know, Pottel, but I am talking about the ones that has not been to the concert and goes on and on about the setlist...

Another good reason to stay away from the setlist as long as first show has not be attended   ;)

Edit 1 : or of course listening to a recording from the current tour

Edit 2 : take any artist, people will always complain about the setlist because :

a) too much obscure song played and not enough big hits I was in for
b) opposite situation : plays only the hit but not this beautiful under rated one I was in for
c) don't make any change so boring
d) opposite situation : dawn I couldn't attend yesterday show and he did play MY song but not tonight


Basic thing I have to remember is how do I feel leaving the venue.


Yes, ds1984, it is true. I think you mentioned four very common "problems" of people attending non-classical concerts...

And MK is, in fact, very smart man. He actually knows that there are some hard-die fans who get a bit bored with all those songs played over and over again and again...
But, he also knows, that the most of people who go to his concerts are NOT his hard-die fans, they are people, who know mainly DS
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dannyjun on June 21, 2010, 11:10:44 AM
I know, Pottel, but I am talking about the ones that has not been to the concert and goes on and on about the setlist...


Presumably that remark was aimed at me. Two things:

1.  If you actually read my posts properly you will see that I have been quite balanced in my views about the setlist.  In my "reflections from someone who wasn't there" post you will see that I said that the setlist has a decent flow and complemented the playing and excellent versions on some songs that don't work on the album.  I am loving my symfy recordings.  But only a fool would suggest that this setlist is fresh. A number of people who have reviewed the concerts very positively have mentioned a tinge of regret that, whilst brilliant, what they have seen has, by and large, been a repeat of what we have seen many times before.

2.  I fail to understand how the fact that I wasn't there disqualifies me from having an opinion.  I have heard 6 of the shows from this tour in their entirety nad have been at more MK shows than I care to remember.  I know exactly what it will have been like.  The fact that the setlist was a factor in my non-attendance makes my opinion very valid thank you very much.


Oh, and a third thing - plenty of people who did go are making comments about the setlist!

Jimbobaby, I think I pretty much understand your feeling. Everyone can have opinion.
I think there is no member of this forum who would just critise. If you say that the concert is awesome, that MK
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 21, 2010, 11:19:28 AM
I think all this stems from disappointment really.

Who here can honsetly say that if it was up to us to choose one song to add to the set, even one that had been played live before, that we would have chosen Fish and the Bird?

I bet nobody.

So a lot of us are disappointed. It's not really a favourite of mine but I thought it sounded OK on the KTGC tour. I'm glad it wasn't played in the one show I attended however.

I also share the concern that the set is now being moulded around the two "folkies". I don't have a problem with them being on the tour, but their role should be to complement MK, not the other way around.

A question, what guitar does Richard play on Fish and Bird? Last year it was teh famous red Schecter but I assume they didn't bring it this time?
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: ds1984 on June 21, 2010, 11:39:14 AM
I also share the concern that the set is now being moulded around the two "folkies". I don't have a problem with them being on the tour, but their role should be to complement MK, not the other way around.

I don't know how to express this correctly at right level in a foreign language but I fully understand that. I mean Mark has a bunch of wonderful musician on stage and I was glad that Mike was staying for the whole tour. But on the other hand I did somewhat feel a bit of what I call the "OES over crowded stage syndroma" : I mean instead of enjoying Mark playing straigh for 2 hours this turns out to become "enjoying attending Mark enjoying himself share and let a lot of playing to others".
Hopefully we are not treated with a never ending 10 minutes plus drum solo by Mr Horsepower...so not a big deal on this matter.
 


Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 21, 2010, 11:43:02 AM
I don't know how to express this correctly at right level in a foreign language but I fully understand that. I mean Mark has a bunch of wonderful musician on stage and I was glad that Mike was staying for the whole tour. But on the other hand I did somewhat feel a bit of what I call the "OES over crowded stage syndroma" : I mean instead of enjoying Mark playing straigh for 2 hours this turns out to become "enjoying attending Mark enjoying himself share and let a lot of playing to others".
Hopefully we are not treated with a never ending 10 minutes plus drum solo by Mr Horsepower...so not a big deal on this matter.
 

Yeah, but MK's a pensioner now and can't play so intensely so I don't really mind other people taking solos to take the heat of him. My concern is that the set itself is shaped to accomodate his backing musicians, they should in fact be accomodating the set. If there's no place for Mike on, say, You Don't Know You're Born then don't dump the song, just tell Mike to go take a piss and come back for the next song.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jimbobaby on June 21, 2010, 12:22:32 PM
Danny - thanks for your support mate ;D

Dusty - I agree with you - the folkies have added a lot, but in the process have taken a little away.  I do like the overall sound of this band thgough, setlist notwithstanding.

The debate about die-hards versus old DS fans in attendance is an interesting one.   I'm not actually convinced that the argument that the audience is made up largely of people who want to hear the DS songs is as true as it might have been say two tours ago.  DS are a long time dead now and MK is a recognised solo artist albeit with a reduced fan base.  He's given up all the "voice and guitar of DS" stickers on CDs now.  I can understand why MK feels he has to/wants to play the DS stuff (milestones in peoples' lives etc)  but I think he could now get away with just playing SOS, R&J and BIA as the core "classics" (even R&J is dispensable in my book now but obviously not in Mark's cos he's played in in every gig since he wrote it!).  He broke that mould when he dropped MFN.  I can't see why he feels the need to trot out TR now, much as I love it unless he just enjoys it or feel it fits this band.  It does take up a big chunk of time ands SFA is nice but throwaway.  I actually think he might lose a few regulars after this tour unless there is a bit of a change of direction on the next one.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Pottel on June 21, 2010, 01:04:39 PM
he really seems to enjoy playing SoS and Romeo and stuff, so i guess they are simply not "overplayed" enough in his opinion.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jimbobaby on June 21, 2010, 01:33:10 PM
I could (and do!!) listen to SOS virtually every day of my life so If I'm not bored with it.... ;D  R&J though.  That's just a bit harder.... ::)
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jimbobaby on June 21, 2010, 01:45:23 PM

Yeah, but MK's a pensioner now and can't play so intensely so I don't really mind other people taking solos to take the heat of him. My concern is that the set itself is shaped to accomodate his backing musicians, they should in fact be accomodating the set. If there's no place for Mike on, say, You Don't Know You're Born then don't dump the song, just tell Mike to go take a piss and come back for the next song.
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Hey Dusty, there's a thought - "you don't know you're born" - another pretty obscure album track that I bet would sound fabulous live if given the "coyote " treatment.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 21, 2010, 02:03:03 PM
Hey Dusty, there's a thought - "you don't know you're born" - another pretty obscure album track that I bet would sound fabulous live if given the "coyote " treatment.


Yup, one of my favourites and now one of the few tracks from Ragpickers that hasn't been played live! But no chance of it being played as there isn't a Uilean pipes part in it.  :-\
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dmg on June 21, 2010, 02:51:28 PM
Hey Dusty, there's a thought - "you don't know you're born" - another pretty obscure album track that I bet would sound fabulous live if given the "coyote " treatment.


Yup, one of my favourites and now one of the few tracks from Ragpickers that hasn't been played live! But no chance of it being played as there isn't a Uilean pipes part in it.  :-\

Oh, I'm sure Mike could play over the guitar outro on it and spoil it all for us! ;D
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: localhero1986 on June 21, 2010, 02:59:05 PM
Actually, I wonder why Mike didn't play the uilleann pipes in BIA. Would have been a nice addition / change for Matt's accordion.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: ds1984 on June 21, 2010, 02:59:30 PM

Yeah, but MK's a pensioner now and can't play so intensely so I don't really mind other people taking solos to take the heat of him. My concern is that the set itself is shaped to accomodate his backing musicians, they should in fact be accomodating the set. If there's no place for Mike on, say, You Don't Know You're Born then don't dump the song, just tell Mike to go take a piss and come back for the next song.


Hey Dusty, there's a thought - "you don't know you're born" - another pretty obscure album track that I bet would sound fabulous live if given the "coyote " treatment.

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I bet that one will be the one from TRD album that will make the next tour (and justify that I will attend several MK nights again).
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Mossguitar on June 21, 2010, 03:30:36 PM
I know, Pottel, but I am talking about the ones that has not been to the concert and goes on and on about the setlist...


Presumably that remark was aimed at me. Two things:

1.  If you actually read my posts properly you will see that I have been quite balanced in my views about the setlist.  In my "reflections from someone who wasn't there" post you will see that I said that the setlist has a decent flow and complemented the playing and excellent versions on some songs that don't work on the album.  I am loving my symfy recordings.  But only a fool would suggest that this setlist is fresh. A number of people who have reviewed the concerts very positively have mentioned a tinge of regret that, whilst brilliant, what they have seen has, by and large, been a repeat of what we have seen many times before.

2.  I fail to understand how the fact that I wasn't there disqualifies me from having an opinion.  I have heard 6 of the shows from this tour in their entirety nad have been at more MK shows than I care to remember.  I know exactly what it will have been like.  The fact that the setlist was a factor in my non-attendance makes my opinion very valid thank you very much.


Oh, and a third thing - plenty of people who did go are making comments about the setlist!
No, it was not aimed at you in particular, and, hey, I'm just expressing my feelings here. Just as you all are. I don't think there should be anything wrong with that. Nothing wrong with criticizing the setlists either. I just found the posts boring. And I said so. But you are not writing to please me, so go on writing what you want. Nothing personal. And I'm still here, so it can't be that bad ;)

By the way, I like the new direction of this thread, and I agree with most of you. Of course I would't choose The Fish And The Bird or Done With Napoleon if it was up to me. Of course I want to hear TOL or at least The Man's Too Strong instead. And I agree with those who mean that the members of the band has a to big influence on the set. "You Don't Know You're Born" is a great song which deserves to be played live. On the other hand, when I attended the concert in Oslo, I couldn't have cared less about what he was playing. It was all pure joy. And the sound was brilliant from the first note.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 21, 2010, 03:56:23 PM
Just listened to the Simfy recording of Fish and the Bird from Leipzig, very nice version, I enjoyed it. :)

But I would have enjoyed You Don't Know You're Born more. ;)
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: herlock on June 21, 2010, 04:16:52 PM
Hey Dusty, there's a thought - "you don't know you're born" - another pretty obscure album track that I bet would sound fabulous live if given the "coyote " treatment.

Yup !! It's similar to Coyote but only nicer. I didn't like Coyote before, but now I love the live version. So YDKYRB should be fab...
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jimbobaby on June 21, 2010, 06:19:11 PM
No, it was not aimed at you in particular, and, hey, I'm just expressing my feelings here. Just as you all are. I don't think there should be anything wrong with that. Nothing wrong with criticizing the setlists either. I just found the posts boring. And I said so. But you are not writing to please me, so go on writing what you want. Nothing personal. And I'm still here, so it can't be that bad ;)

By the way, I like the new direction of this thread, and I agree with most of you. Of course I would't choose The Fish And The Bird or Done With Napoleon if it was up to me. Of course I want to hear TOL or at least The Man's Too Strong instead. And I agree with those who mean that the members of the band has a to big influence on the set. "You Don't Know You're Born" is a great song which deserves to be played live. On the other hand, when I attended the concert in Oslo, I couldn't have cared less about what he was playing. It was all pure joy. And the sound was brilliant from the first note.
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Hey MossG  No hard feelings mate.  Just a bit of banter.  ;D ::)
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dannyjun on June 21, 2010, 10:00:34 PM
Danny - thanks for your support mate ;D

Dusty - I agree with you - the folkies have added a lot, but in the process have taken a little away.  I do like the overall sound of this band thgough, setlist notwithstanding.

The debate about die-hards versus old DS fans in attendance is an interesting one.   I'm not actually convinced that the argument that the audience is made up largely of people who want to hear the DS songs is as true as it might have been say two tours ago.  DS are a long time dead now and MK is a recognised solo artist albeit with a reduced fan base.  He's given up all the "voice and guitar of DS" stickers on CDs now.  I can understand why MK feels he has to/wants to play the DS stuff (milestones in peoples' lives etc)  but I think he could now get away with just playing SOS, R&J and BIA as the core "classics" (even R&J is dispensable in my book now but obviously not in Mark's cos he's played in in every gig since he wrote it!).  He broke that mould when he dropped MFN.  I can't see why he feels the need to trot out TR now, much as I love it unless he just enjoys it or feel it fits this band.  It does take up a big chunk of time ands SFA is nice but throwaway.  I actually think he might lose a few regulars after this tour unless there is a bit of a change of direction on the next one.

Maybe, but still he is recognized by MANY people as the voice and guitar of DS  ;) And what to say, SOS, MFN, WOL and many more are so well known...there is not so famous "hit" from his solo career...
Actually, in my opinion if he would really play what he wants, he would just play setlists like the Boothbay 2006 was. I
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dannyjun on June 21, 2010, 10:12:27 PM
by the way, somebody posted this to GF:

Hi Doc, finally we discovered the "new" song you played last night :-))) Wow... that's really fantastic, I couldn't imagine a better song !!! Ahh ahhh ahhh oHHH oHH oHHH.....Great rock song....Cheers





eh... :lol
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dmg on June 21, 2010, 10:17:15 PM
by the way, somebody posted this to GF:

Hi Doc, finally we discovered the "new" song you played last night :-))) Wow... that's really fantastic, I couldn't imagine a better song !!! Ahh ahhh ahhh oHHH oHH oHHH.....Great rock song....Cheers





eh... :lol
Sounds like something I would do but I'm not guilty of this lowly sarcastic wit on this occasion! :disbelief
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: ds1984 on June 21, 2010, 10:47:07 PM
This is limit disrespecful.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: holaknopfler on June 21, 2010, 11:13:58 PM
Please correct me if i'm wrong, and i hope that i' m not going to upset anyone. This has something to do with fish hasn't it?
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Mossguitar on June 21, 2010, 11:30:54 PM
No need to correct you, lars ;)
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: goldenheart96 on June 21, 2010, 11:33:24 PM
This is limit disrespecful.

It absolutely is. I don't think this is funny at all. It makes me cringe to think that the guy who sent this to Guy (no pun intended) actually claims to be a fan...
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: holaknopfler on June 21, 2010, 11:34:12 PM
If i were Guy, I had banned him from my forum. SO disrespectful. If you don't like the song, ok! But you can't say it in this way to the performer himself.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Pottel on June 22, 2010, 12:24:41 AM
you are exaggerating Lars.
it is called sarcasm, not worth banning someone for.
there have been far worse posts then that.
why are you trying to be so restrictive on everything?
why should someone not be "allowed" to say their opinion about a specific song to the performer (part of it)??
we do pay to go to the shows, buy the simfy recs., buy the cd's...we do have the right to air our opinion.
nothing more, nothing less.

Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jbaent on June 22, 2010, 12:52:52 AM
I understand that after some days telling they were rehearsing a new song, if they just read in the forums they
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: herlock on June 22, 2010, 02:13:57 AM
you are exaggerating Lars.
it is called sarcasm, not worth banning someone for.
there have been far worse posts then that.
why are you trying to be so restrictive on everything?
why should someone not be "allowed" to say their opinion about a specific song to the performer (part of it)??
we do pay to go to the shows, buy the simfy recs., buy the cd's...we do have the right to air our opinion.
nothing more, nothing less.


it seems that GF, Pottel and myself have something in common: advocacy of total freedom of speech. Although i would not allow myself to write to GF in this way. I allow myself to write casually here about the setlist, but on GF forum I try to be positive and respectful. He does not like setlist questions, so what's the point anyway ? But that's just me - i don't want to piss Guy off while he is nice enough to speak to me. I have no authority to d
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dannyjun on June 22, 2010, 10:33:01 AM
you are exaggerating Lars.
it is called sarcasm, not worth banning someone for.
there have been far worse posts then that.
why are you trying to be so restrictive on everything?
why should someone not be "allowed" to say their opinion about a specific song to the performer (part of it)??
we do pay to go to the shows, buy the simfy recs., buy the cd's...we do have the right to air our opinion.
nothing more, nothing less.


it seems that GF, Pottel and myself have something in common: advocacy of total freedom of speech. Although i would not allow myself to write to GF in this way. I allow myself to write casually here about the setlist, but on GF forum I try to be positive and respectful. He does not like setlist questions, so what's the point anyway ? But that's just me - i don't want to piss Guy off while he is nice enough to speak to me. I have no authority to d
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: ingridswing on June 22, 2010, 10:36:23 AM
I agree Herlock. I am absolutely for total freedom of speech. But I would never send a post like this to GF either, disappointed or not. But he aired his disappointment and the Doc is always answering the right way
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 22, 2010, 10:46:25 AM
Listened to KTGC for the first time in a while today.

It's my least favourite MK album but I still enjoyed listening to it (except In the Sky, which is a terrible, terrible song). Just about any MK is good MK. :)

But it struck me that The Scaffolder's Wife (which along with Fizzy and the Still is one of the standout tracks on the album for me) could suit this band, Mike and John playing their whistles and pipes where the flute is on the record.

Guy, if you are reading, please make this happen!
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: herlock on June 22, 2010, 11:09:27 AM
I agree Herlock. I am absolutely for total freedom of speech. But I would never send a post like this to GF either, disappointed or not. But he aired his disappointment and the Doc is always answering the right way
French philosopher Voltaire said (approximate translation): "I hate your ideas, but I will fight to death so that you have the right to express them". Freedom of speech is a dying concept in today's politically correct world. Yet it is worth preserving. I'd rather keep my "ennemies" inside rather than pushing them outside ;)
Actually I like this forum very much. I am relatively new to it, the site is very well organized, I have never read the rules until recently, only to find out that they are common sense and that I was naturally complying to them already. But sometimes common sense is not at all common :) It is nice to see admininistrators like Pottel applying the rules in a pragmatic rather than dogmatic way. Better the have strong rules applied liberally, rather than the other way round ;)
I admire Guy for not censoring any comment. I'm pretty sure the temptation is very strong sometimes. Or the one to say "go f*** yourself". That"s courageous indeed.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: herlock on June 22, 2010, 11:13:09 AM
Listened to KTGC for the first time in a while today.
It's my least favourite MK album but I still enjoyed listening to it (except In the Sky, which is a terrible, terrible song). Just about any MK is good MK. :)
But it struck me that The Scaffolder's Wife (which along with Fizzy and the Still is one of the standout tracks on the album for me) could suit this band, Mike and John playing their whistles and pipes where the flute is on the record.
Guy, if you are reading, please make this happen!
I guess we fans can never totally agree. I find "In the sky" to be a gem. Maybe it's my nostalgia for Chris Wite's sax :) The terrible one for me on KTGC is TLWNF (although the live version is not that bad). This opener kind of set a "dull" tone to the album, much unlike "Border Reiver" or "What it is". Yes, the Scallolder"s wife is nice; so is Hear Full of Holes. My absolute favorite is Punish the Monkey, the one which, together with Silvertown Blues, really deserved a live treatment !! Oh well...
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 22, 2010, 11:22:52 AM
Not really a fan of TLWNF either, but can listen to it.

In the Sky is just a really bad, sixth form love song for me, deserves to be on a James Blunt album.

Most of the album is "OK" but nothing to get excited about.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 22, 2010, 11:26:03 AM
Actually I like this forum very much. I am relatively new to it, the site is very well organized, I have never read the rules until recently, only to find out that they are common sense and that I was naturally complying to them already. But sometimes common sense is not at all common :) It is nice to see admininistrators like Pottel applying the rules in a pragmatic rather than dogmatic way. Better the have strong rules applied liberally, rather than the other way round ;)

And we like having you here Herlock!

I think I speak for all the Editors when I say that we would rather not have any "rules" at all, but unfortunately you can ocassionally get people who just want to make things difficult.

Fortunately MK fans are generally a very reasonable bunch and I think I am correct in saying that we have only ever had one ocassion where we have had to enforce the "rules" and that time the individual in question had to be banned. A very, very unpleasant situation for all us Editors to deal with but in the end we were left with no other choice.  :-\
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Giulio70 on June 22, 2010, 12:36:03 PM
Well, here it's the guilty   ;D
Sorry guys, I'm from Italy I understand 70% of what you're saying about me.

When I wrote to Guy my purpose wasn't to offend him or the band, but to be sarcastic in order to
let him now that the 90% (i think) of the fans didn't appreciate the famous "new song"....and
that's certain and without doubt that almost everybody didn't like MK choice of playing this song.

So...

This is limit disrespecful.


If I would have been disrespecful, like you say, I could have wrote more...but mooooore than this  >:(



This is limit disrespecful.

It absolutely is. I don't think this is funny at all. It makes me cringe to think that the guy who sent this to Guy (no pun intended) actually claims to be a fan...


Yes I'm a fan, probably more than you because I have the courage to say to Guy what I think  >:( And I don't think It's funny too..it was not my purpose



If i were Guy, I had banned him from my forum. SO disrespectful. If you don't like the song, ok! But you can't say it in this way to the performer himself.

Maybe a person who tells honestly and with sarcasm his tough must be banned in your opinion ? Or you're better than me to say this, you stay in
silence and accept whatever...?




you are exaggerating Lars.
it is called sarcasm, not worth banning someone for.
there have been far worse posts then that.
why are you trying to be so restrictive on everything?
why should someone not be "allowed" to say their opinion about a specific song to the performer (part of it)??
we do pay to go to the shows, buy the simfy recs., buy the cd's...we do have the right to air our opinion.
nothing more, nothing less.



Thank you Pottel you're perfect in line with me  :)
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jbaent on June 22, 2010, 01:04:32 PM
Maybe the problem is when we think we have the right opinion... and opinion is like asses, everybody has one  ;D
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Waterline Man on June 22, 2010, 01:12:31 PM
Maybe the problem is when we think we have the right opinion... and opinion is like asses, everybody has one  ;D

LOL,but in different shapes & sizes :o :o
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 22, 2010, 01:24:58 PM
and opinion is like asses, everybody has one  ;D

And most of them are pretty shitty.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: jimbobaby on June 22, 2010, 01:53:56 PM
Free speech rules I say!  That's why this forum is a fun place to be.  We can all have oiur little bouts of self pity or sarcasm but we always kiss and make up in the end.  I personally wouldn't send Guy an arsey message even if I agreed with the content (which I do on this occassion) simply because he puts himself out to provide the service and deserves good manners - He does however have a very keen sense of humour and sarcasm and engages in both if you strike the right tone.  On other occasions his silence speaks volumes.  Nuff said methinks.

Now for the free speech bit.  I think TLWNF is one of MK's loveliest songs.  It cheers neme up to end.  The arrangement is a bit odd with the often repeated title at the start but there is some lovely laid back guitar work and the melody is great.  Id much rather hear it live than TFATB or even TSW which is not my cup of tea but I agree that it would be rifght up this band's street.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: herlock on June 22, 2010, 02:35:24 PM
Well if I were to exercice my right to free speech with Guy (which I will not do, again  I want to respect his way of thinking), I would certainly say that they are a bit conversative with all these "no questions about setlists", "don't publish the set lists", "no requests", etc. C'mon, it's just a list of songs ! They are no secret anyway... and even knowing by heart what to expect I could still be blown away by the Paris gig.
I would also say that fans would truly find it wonderful to have one (not 10 like the BOSS, just one) slot reserved for a "new" song every night. It seems that they started in this direction with the Get Lucky/Monteleone/ANISLA/Fish & bird slot; if this could be generalized to give us recordings of "Postcards from Paragay", "The man's too strong", "Setting me up", "On Every Street", "So Far From the Clyde"... and I'm only talking about songs they rehearsed, I'm not even talking about the martyr song which did not derserved to be burried alive, aka Tunnel of Love :)
Although I am not a big fan of the Shangri-La album I feel that "Postcards from Paraguay" is a great song, a great highly from 2008, sadly mssing. It would make up my day. Maybe they could also resurrect "Boom, like that", not a bad rocking song, even if its dry compared to Border Reiver or even Cleaning My Gun... it was only played in 2005. But at least we have the Denver recording.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: herlock on June 22, 2010, 02:36:13 PM
And we like having you here Herlock!
Thanks man :)
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: koobaa on June 22, 2010, 05:58:15 PM
Listened to KTGC for the first time in a while today.

It's my least favourite MK album but I still enjoyed listening to it (except In the Sky, which is a terrible, terrible song). Just about any MK is good MK. :)

But it struck me that The Scaffolder's Wife (which along with Fizzy and the Still is one of the standout tracks on the album for me) could suit this band, Mike and John playing their whistles and pipes where the flute is on the record.

Guy, if you are reading, please make this happen!
I rate this album very high in MK's catalouge. It's almost a concept album and it has an incredible atmosphere with some really fantastic songs on  it, my favorite being Behind With The Rent. Just listened to the 2010 version of The Fish And The Bird and I think it's awesome! Addition of pipes really made it special.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Mossguitar on June 22, 2010, 07:17:20 PM
Free speech rules I say!  That's why this forum is a fun place to be.  We can all have oiur little bouts of self pity or sarcasm but we always kiss and make up in the end.    .
Very well said!!! That's what makes this forum so great. Many thanks to the mods and the members! Free speach rules! But it has its down sides too, of course, and therefore its limits. Insults and rasism for instance. Never been a problem here, not to my knowledge, anyway. 

K2GC? I like it. Scaffolders wife and the fizzy and the still are great. I like let it all go and in rhe sky too. And the other version of behind with the rent is good. The herring and the nightingale? Like it! The rest: a bit boring. 
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: joanzimm on June 22, 2010, 08:35:23 PM
I haven't been on AMIT in almost a week and I just read all 7 pages of this thread.  All the sarcastic references to The Fish and the Bird were hysterical.  How about the Cod and the Crow :disbelief

Actually, I like the song very much when listening to KTGC but it didn't excite me when it was revealed as the 'new song' in the setlist. 

Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Love Expresso on June 22, 2010, 08:36:49 PM
Btw, I never found this (in)famous sentence at Guy's forum that you all are talking about for three sites now. Did he delete it or was it not put out by him?

LE
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: holaknopfler on June 23, 2010, 12:01:32 AM
Sorry. For my idiot acting here. I'm a bit jealous, i can't go to the gig in amsterdam. My excuses to everyone. It wasn't meant bad. I hope you understand. Lars.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Pottel on June 23, 2010, 12:04:49 AM
no problemo lars..
why can you not go to the show in amsterdam?
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: holaknopfler on June 23, 2010, 12:06:36 AM
School, i'm in the last part of the year, i can't miss one single hour of those days:( i was very sad when i heard it i couldn't go. But we have simfy, amit, and youtube(sorry:p)
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: Knopflerfan on June 23, 2010, 12:14:50 AM
What a shame for you, still at least you have the 'simfy' recordings which are a real bonus for those unable to go..
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: holaknopfler on June 23, 2010, 12:16:07 AM
Jup, i buy them all from hamsterjam!;D;D
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: rmarques821 on March 26, 2020, 10:58:17 PM
Sorry for resurrecting a 10 year old topic, but on this night Mark played arguably the best Telegraph Road of his life. An incredible 4.30 minute solo, with thunderous twiddly bits at the very end.
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on April 16, 2020, 03:09:33 PM
Sorry for resurrecting a 10 year old topic, but on this night Mark played arguably the best Telegraph Road of his life. An incredible 4.30 minute solo, with thunderous twiddly bits at the very end.

Just listened to the official recording, it's great indeed!

For me the best TR is Madrid 2005, absolutely out of this world. Best Strat sound ever and Danny is incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbP3ELVdAjc
Title: Re: Concert #55:2010.06.19, Arena, Leipzig, Germany
Post by: dmg on April 16, 2020, 05:33:00 PM
Sorry for resurrecting a 10 year old topic, but on this night Mark played arguably the best Telegraph Road of his life. An incredible 4.30 minute solo, with thunderous twiddly bits at the very end.

Just listened to the official recording, it's great indeed!

For me the best TR is Madrid 2005, absolutely out of this world. Best Strat sound ever and Danny is incredible.


Love that version too except for the tone - worst Strat sound ever!  So thick and unclean - so unlike Mark!  His most Strat-like sound IMHO was in If I Had You.  Beautiful.  This sounds horrible to me.  I'm so glad he changed back to the Pensa for TR in Milan.