A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Almost Straits => Topic started by: jbaent on June 03, 2011, 02:57:29 PM
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Leaving behind the prejudices, it they play near your town, it really worths to attend the show:
http://www.thestraits.com/dates.php (http://www.thestraits.com/dates.php)
23rd June 2011
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My prejudices have battled to the front of my psyche. I'm definately in the camp that thinks that this band is abusing an old relationship and hoodwinking the general public. Sorry.
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Is there a strange smell in the room?? :disbelief (its horse sh*t in case anyone wonders!)
Removed image due to the frailties of some members who dont seem to acknowledge the whole stench of foul play with this "tour" and band "rebirth"
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Is there a strange smell in the room?? :disbelief (its horse sh*t in case anyone wonders!)
Errrr...I have my stomach sick now....could you share any kind of manners and remove it please???
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From the Swiss website:
A touch of Dire Straits at the Summer Sound!
With more than 120 million albums sold among the British rock band Dire Straits most successful artists of all time. The three ORIGINAL MEMBERS Alan Clark, Phil Palmer, and Chris White together with four other high-profile musicians, the band The Straits. Together they perform the opening act of Anastacia for the first time in 20 years, the greatest hits of Dire Straits. An experience which you must not miss!
"The three original members, Alan Clark, Phil Palmer and Chris White" ?? - What about Mark, John, David and Pick, weren't they the original members?
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Is there a strange smell in the room?? :disbelief (its horse sh*t in case anyone wonders!)
Errrr...I have my stomach sick now....could you share any kind of manners and remove it please???
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Val, Google translation is not that correct imho... ;D
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Of course, it was a google translation, but even so, "originalmitglieder" means "original member". :)
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Together they perform the opening act of ...
The whaaat? So I guess all those songs MK (or maybe I should say "they", but that's another topic) wrote must be crappy, because they are now only good for opening acts.... wth??
So this is where all those hits evolved, into an opening act!! Whaaat... I wonder what MK thinks about this... someone's opening act... wth...
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This is a f**king insult to MK and Dire Straits
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why all the excitement.
everyone needs to earn a living :-)
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And I am too late obviously to find out what ecactly was so "nasty" about Schmonka's pic?? Sh...t!! :disbelief :lol
The Straits.... yaaaaaawwwn.... ain't no other new themes around?? What about another good Italian cover band, there must be some more...
LE
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I feel the video below is quite emblematic of this very discussion. Just as interesting, I might add.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FzqEdnzsno&feature=related
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Well... as soon as they aren't opening act to a MK gig !
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I feel the video below is quite emblematic of this very discussion. Just as interesting, I might add.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FzqEdnzsno&feature=related
lol, but just a tiny amount! :lol
laughed my arse of....
the fast show is one of my favorites...
suits you sir!
brilliant
scorchio!
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"The three original members, Alan Clark, Phil Palmer and Chris White" ?? - What about Mark, John, David and Pick, weren't they the original members?
Did you send this to the promoters? They were who wrote that...
Maybe is just they are ignorant people, or maybe trying to sell the gig the better they can?
Promoters...
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I have a very different point of view, and I think all you know (and probably are tired of, considering the tolerance showed by many of you about this).
My point of view is that they ARE NOT Dire Straits, they are a band formed with three former members playing, with other musicians, the songs they used to play with Dire Straits, and they decided to call themselfs The Straits. Its not a bad name for a band who play Dire Straits songs, specially when three of them play with them. There are cover bands with names more close to the real one, and you know that bands...
It happens that they played a show at the RAH and it was almost full of people VERY aware that the were not DIRE STRAITS, and they were very HAPPY to listen the hits MK doesnt wants to perform, and being played but three of the musicians that already played them. I guess they enjoyed the show because they dont know this forum and are not able to embrace the REAL TRUTH that many of you show here (mode ironic off)
I think that the fact of talk about from the comfort of your home is very different that talk about it when you actually saw the band, saw the RESPECT they show to MK himself during all the show, and the care they put playing the songs for the fans.
And I do think that its a real and very good chance to people that never attended to a Dire Straits show to see Alan, Chris and Phil playing live. At least it was to me. But I
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"The three original members, Alan Clark, Phil Palmer and Chris White" ?? - What about Mark, John, David and Pick, weren't they the original members?
Did you send this to the promoters? They were who wrote that...
Maybe is just they are ignorant people, or maybe trying to sell the gig the better they can?
Promoters...
I think it was meant to have said "Three members of the original band", but once again, ambiguity....... :-\ Or something was lost in translation! ;)
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After a charity concert, The Straits are now officially a farce with this european tour.
Legally they are a cover band so there's no legal breach.
No legal breach, no, but there are things happening "out of the legal" to try to minimize the Straits presence...
But we all know they are not a real cover band
Moreover I have listened to the very good recording jbaent provided us
and I must say that while the overall band is excellent
the lead guitar is totally unlistenable which makes the overall experience pretty bad, at least to me.
Several real cover bands have better guitarists.
They are a really excellent "half-band", I
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why all the excitement.
everyone needs to earn a living :-)
Agreed. I don't have any problem with people making a living playing live music.
If anyone is stupid enough to confuse "The Straits" with "Dire Straits" then they deserve to lose their money IMO.
The only thing I disagree with is the way they tried to say that they were only getting together for a "one-off" charity gig, when thatwas clearly never the plan. Very misleading and dishonest IMO.
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My guess is they didnt have faith in that the project will have success...
Actually, I was expecting some boo at the RAH, but I was very surprised and amazed by the reaction of ALL the RAh audience during the show. That probably encouraged them to try to do more shows. When you see that what you are doing makes happy so many people maybe it worths to keep doing it.
I doubt very much that a few shows is a way to earn a life, they are proffesional musicians, to play just three summer dates doesnt looks like earn a living.
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to play just three summer dates doesnt looks like earn a living.
There are also Autumn dates to be announced. ;)
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to play just three summer dates doesnt looks like earn a living.
There are also Autumn dates to be announced. ;)
They must be VERY WELL paid to earn a living with "autumn dates"
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to play just three summer dates doesnt looks like earn a living.
There are also Autumn dates to be announced. ;)
They must be VERY WELL paid to earn a living with "autumn dates"
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Maybe they do, and you dont know it.
Maybe they do, and this is just a way to have fun and make happy many people (I cant forget the whole RAH standing up during ALL the concert)
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boring......
look at the fast show clip again pls.....all of you ;-)
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boring......
look at the fast show clip again pls.....all of you ;-)
The remedy is obvious - some exciting news from BG!
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They are far more than disappointed... but they are british, you know ;D
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I find some posts here very offensive to The Straits aka Alan Clark, Phill Palmer, Chris White and Steve Ferrone which are old MK mates and friends.
If there is something between them - I hope they will sort it out...
Let them sort it out without most of yours tricky efforts.
I read many times Guy's words to be distorted...
IMHO some posts here violate A MARK IN TIME FORUM RULES and GUIDELINES - copy/paste
Discretion/Respect
Although it is A.M.I.T.'s aim to be more accepting and tolerant of "controversial" topics than other MK forums, we ask that you use discretion when posting a message. This forum is read by many Mark Knopfler/Dire Straits/Notting Hillbillies fans from around the world daily, so what you say will be seen and read by many people. Please keep it civil, and always respect Mark and his band members, family and his associates. All discussions that are deemed by the Administrators/Moderators, to venture too far into Mark or his band members' personal/family matters will be considered inappropriate and promptly removed from the A.M.I.T. forum. The Administrators/Moderators also reserve the right to remove any posts which may in any way, be considered defamatory, and or cannot be substantiated.
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Next my step is to inform Guy how some of MK ''fans" are trying to put fuel and make intrigues using his words and believe me he would NOT be happy at all !! :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
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I'd say "Dire Strats" is far more misleading than "The Straits", if that matters...
Basically the problem here (for some of you) is that members of Dire Straits play Dire Straits songs in a band? Think about that for a second... it's absurd!
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Next my step is to inform Guy how some of MK ''fans" are trying to put fuel and make intrigues using his words and believe me he would NOT be happy at all !! :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
Slavi, don
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They are far more than disappointed... but they are british, you know ;D
What exactly does that mean? What does it have to do with being British? ::)
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What exactly does that mean? What does it have to do with being British? ::)
British Rock !! I LOOOOOVE U ALL
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They are far more than disappointed... but they are british, you know ;D
What exactly does that mean? What does it have to do with being British? ::)
Jbaent probably edited his message, because its second part originaly said something about sewing... ;D I mean suing.
And Slavi, maybe Guy already read this forum at some point and he is aware of some of our attitudes towards "Da Straights".
Btw, what in the world is Steve Ferrone doing behind the drum kit?? Or is he even there? It sound like a lifeless drummachine.
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They are far more than disappointed... but they are british, you know ;D
What exactly does that mean? What does it have to do with being British? ::)
Jbaent probably edited his message, because its second part originaly said something about sewing... ;D I mean suing.
And Slavi, maybe Guy already read this forum at some point and he is aware of some of our attitudes towards "Da Straights".
Btw, what in the world is Steve Ferrone doing behind the drum kit?? Or is he even there? It sound like a lifeless drummachine.
Yes, I read what Jbaent posted earlier! ;)
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I mean that english are polite people ;D
Its something I read about Pink Floyd members and the fights they had, using the sentence "in the english way"
Its just a funny sentence for a spanish, who is famous for not knowing what polite means ;D
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I mean that english are polite people ;D
Thanks, Jbaent! Nice to hear, except we're not polite all the time, LOL! ;D
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Speaking of Spain...
Anyone noticed Rafa Nadal and Roger Federer will meet again tomorrow at the Roland Garros Tennis Final? Great stuff, how long has it been since these both real sportsmen and gentlemen have met on the court? Looking forward to it! :D
LE
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Speaking of Spain...
Anyone noticed Rafa Nadal and Roger Federer will meet again tomorrow at the Roland Garros Tennis Final? Great stuff, how long has it been since these both real sportsmen and gentlemen have met on the court? Looking forward to it! :D
LE
Speaking of Spain...
I am off there on holiday very soon! Menorca, here I come! :D
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Cool!
Have a nice holiday, and make sure to take your Madrid, Cordoba or Gredos Simfy recording with you to enjoy it in the heat of the sun! 8)
Hope you have a great time! ;)
LE
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Cool!
Have a nice holiday, and make sure to take your Madrid, Cordoba or Gredos Simfy recording with you to enjoy it in the heat of the sun! 8)
Hope you have a great time! ;)
LE
Thanks LE! I'll be taking my MP3 player with lots of music including the Simfy Manchester and Bournemouth recordings! ;D
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Speaking of Spain...
Anyone noticed Rafa Nadal and Roger Federer will meet again tomorrow at the Roland Garros Tennis Final? Great stuff, how long has it been since these both real sportsmen and gentlemen have met on the court? Looking forward to it! :D
LE
Oh I certainly did, watched the match yesterday also, Nole should have won, and beaten the record... Yeah, great stuff :)
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Nice twist, yeah
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I mean that english are polite people ;D
So Roger Waters was not very British on french radio in the mid 80's ;D
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Next my step is to inform Guy how some of MK ''fans" are trying to put fuel and make intrigues using his words and believe me he would NOT be happy at all !! :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
I would not do that. The debate is here so no need to put oil on fire on Guy's forum, moreover that he already expressed his wish on that matter.
We should assume that if everybody are here for the love of the Mark Knopfler music, there are strong different point of view of how about the legacy of his music, the Dire Straits era especialy, can be used. But in the end we should pass over them.
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Can I just point out that all English people are British, but not all British people are English (including MK). ;)
Slavi, no point threatening to go telling tales to Guy, this is a public forum, anyone in the world can read the comments.
If anyone thinks any post breaks forum rules, please report it to the administrators. :)
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Next my step is to inform Guy how some of MK ''fans" are trying to put fuel and make intrigues using his words and believe me he would NOT be happy at all !! :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
??? this is by far the most childish post on the forum :o
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Just noticed this link on Guy's forum:
"http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/9065830.Dire_Straits_to_play_Cornbury/" :disbelief
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I find some posts here very offensive to The Straits aka Alan Clark, Phill Palmer, Chris White and Steve Ferrone which are old MK mates and friends.
If there is something between them - I hope they will sort it out...
Let them sort it out without most of yours tricky efforts.
I read many times Guy's words to be distorted...
IMHO some posts here violate A MARK IN TIME FORUM RULES and GUIDELINES - copy/paste
Discretion/Respect
Although it is A.M.I.T.'s aim to be more accepting and tolerant of "controversial" topics than other MK forums, we ask that you use discretion when posting a message. This forum is read by many Mark Knopfler/Dire Straits/Notting Hillbillies fans from around the world daily, so what you say will be seen and read by many people. Please keep it civil, and always respect Mark and his band members, family and his associates. All discussions that are deemed by the Administrators/Moderators, to venture too far into Mark or his band members' personal/family matters will be considered inappropriate and promptly removed from the A.M.I.T. forum. The Administrators/Moderators also reserve the right to remove any posts which may in any way, be considered defamatory, and or cannot be substantiated.
hi slavi
i guess you mean what pensaboy wrote:
"Mark and John are disappointed as Guy Fletcher said"
maybe i am wrong, but i also remember reading that in a reply from Guy.
or do you mean something else?
people, it is hot enough as it is outside, no need to keep this thread alive any further the way it is being done.
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just a tiny amount....lol
get a grip all of you. no need to inform guy of anything, coz i doubt he loses much sleep about anything being said in this forum.
also, i see no breach of AMIT rules as of yet, just the same people from both sides that keep posting their, same, opinion and getting more or less excited.
can we just focus on what this forum is about, "Mark"?
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I had the chance to talk with many of the members of the band, and they were very sad because MK was not happy about it. I really thing they respect a lot what the band was and this is their way to show that respect, offering to the fans that are still there the chance to listen to that songs that Mk doesnt wants to play anymore (I think Alan stated something similar in his site).
By the way, this thread must be moved to "Almost Straits" as well.
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so they confirm thatMark himself is not happy with it?
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Guy himself mention that they were "dissapointed", wich I think its a very soft word. But yes, some of the members of the straits mentioned that, I didnt dare to ask them if they asked to Mk directly and what he said about it.
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Next my step is to inform Guy how some of MK ''fans" are trying to put fuel and make intrigues using his words and believe me he would NOT be happy at all !! :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
I think he'll be interested,NOT ::)He'll probably run off & tell MK & neither of them will speak to me ever again :'( :'(Oh sh**e they dont even know me :lol :lol Be afraid people,be very afraid.
As LE 8) says,ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ;)
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... coz i doubt he loses much sleep about anything being said in this forum.
Guy strikes me as a complete Internet forum nerd! I mean how many other professional semi-famous musicians bother to update and answer on their own Q&A consistently?
I reckon he reads every word on AMIT and that's why he's so cryptic with his answers most of the time (so he doesn't give the game away). Wasn't there some recent thing where some of you thought he must've read something or other?
Anyway, Hello Guy!!! You probably DONT lose much sleep, but I bet you get a laugh reading our rubbish!?
Get a lifer indeed. :)
Oh, no comment on The Straits. It's getting real old, but I do enjoy reading everyone's opinions! ;D At least Alan Clarke isn't sh!tting on my lawn, ha ha!
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Agree that the arguments are mostly being re-hashed now, this thread seems to a carbon copy of the other one.
Maybe we should have a poll of AMIT members, to see who thinks "The Straits" is a good thing and who doesn't?
Also, can somebody link to where GF said that MK himself was "disappointed"? Must have missed that. I know GF himself said he didn't approve of the name, but otherwise wished them good luck.
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just search the word 'disappointed' in the Search option of his forum
and his 20th May reply to someone question will show up
Seems that this post has been removed.
If you fill "disappointed" on search blank... no comments on May 20th (first is on may 22nd and it is NOT that post we're looking for).
Mhm......
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just search the word 'disappointed' in the Search option of his forum
and his 20th May reply to someone question will show up
Seems that this post has been removed.
If you fill "disappointed" on search blank... no comments on May 20th (first is on may 22nd and it is NOT that post we're looking for).
Mhm......
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yes, he removed it, it was there till yesterday night
someone asked about Mark's feelings and the reply was 'He (Mark) and John are disappointed'
At least one of them could have changed his mind.
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/825/johnillsley.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/696/johnillsley.jpg/)
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someone spoke with Guy? PC maybe?
or someone else??
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to be noticed too is that the site Guy Fletcher is referring to
http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/
which had the news about the RAH charity show
has eventually cancelled the news even if news back up to 2008 are still there ;)
Wow. That a piece of news from Mark's official news page is retracted is pretty radical. Someone is not happy about something.
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Wow. That a piece of news from Mark's official news page is retracted is pretty radical. Someone is not happy about something.
Conflict of interest for The Straits' road manager?
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Wow. That a piece of news from Mark's official news page is retracted is pretty radical. Someone is not happy about something.
Conflict of interest for The Straits' road manager?
Dusty, Terry is not the road manager, actually he
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But when working for MK/PCM you have to make a choice about who you are advertising for.
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to be noticed too is that the site Guy Fletcher is referring to
http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/
which had the news about the RAH charity show
has eventually cancelled the news even if news back up to 2008 are still there ;)
Wow. That a piece of news from Mark's official news page is retracted is pretty radical. Someone is not happy about something.
Ssssttt!!!!!! Jackal! Shut off..... or Slavi will "inform Guy how some of MK ''fans" are trying to put fuel and make intrigues using his words and believe me he would NOT be happy at all"
Slavi ... can you please respect all opinions?
Nothing personal.. It's Just that I can't believe my eyes when I read your post.
And really... is it so surprising that "from Mark's world someone (or for sure Mark himself) is not happy about something?"
The Straits bring live on tour (sure for charity...) his music and he's disappointed? Oh... what a ungrateful person you are Mr. Knopfler...
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mmm, wrong turn people, just stick to the actual band and their tour, whoever is in it. no need to start naming, both sides that is!
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finally a newspaper (or channel) that has it's facts straight, refreshing to read.
http://www.openairguide.net/magazin/festivalnews/292/die-unverkennbare-stimme-gratis-zu-anastacia-nach-sursee
(german)
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The only thing I disagree with is the way they tried to say that they were only getting together for a "one-off" charity gig, when that was clearly never the plan. Very misleading and dishonest IMO.
Hey Slavi...
Will you pls ask to Mr. Chris White about it ?
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The only thing I disagree with is the way they tried to say that they were only getting together for a "one-off" charity gig, when that was clearly never the plan. Very misleading and dishonest IMO.
good point shoabi
Hey Slavi...
Will you pls ask to Mr. Chris White about it ?
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The only thing I disagree with is the way they tried to say that they were only getting together for a "one-off" charity gig, when that was clearly never the plan. Very misleading and dishonest IMO.
Hey Slavi...
Will you pls ask to Mr. Chris White about it ?
I won't...because it is fiddling imho and he is not responsible about the website :disbelief
@Pensaboy & Dusty - TK always removes ALL information conected with other musicians ( Pensa Day, some Italian gigs with John, Alan and Chris etc) when they are not actual already because it's not about MK...