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Title: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 13, 2011, 08:36:36 PM
I think it's silly that no official announcement has been made and several ticket sites have the dates already released.

So this is what he have:

Munich 26.10.11 Olympiahalle
 
Oberhausen 30.10.11 K
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 13, 2011, 09:18:24 PM
Yes, maybe Oberhausen. Depands on the netherlands....
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Darling Pretty on July 13, 2011, 09:25:19 PM
Oberhausen too.

Ugly town in Ruhrgebiet.
But the CentrO is very nice to shop, have some drinks and food.
The Arena is very nice too. Just next to the Shopping malls.
One of my faves around here.

LE. Choose the NH Oberhausen opposite the Hbf or the Tryp Hotel in front of the Arena.
The Mercure Hotel is the third and last Option there.
They should all be cheap.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: JeroenvG on July 13, 2011, 09:28:01 PM
Yes, maybe Oberhausen. Depands on the netherlands....

Contacted Mojo Concerts today for The Netherlands, but when I asked about the concerts there were a lott of uuuhms so I think/hope they will announce soon.
Also contacted the HMH (Heineken Music Hall) to ask about any date in october, did it with Twitter so let's see if they react!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 13, 2011, 09:38:46 PM
Oberhausen too.

Ugly town in Ruhrgebiet.
But the CentrO is very nice to shop, have some drinks and food.
The Arena is very nice too. Just next to the Shopping malls.
One of my faves around here.

LE. Choose the NH Oberhausen opposite the Hbf or the Tryp Hotel in front of the Arena.
The Mercure Hotel is the third and last Option there.
They should all be cheap.


Hey, Steinei, besten Dank!  :lol

Genau die Info, die ich brauche von einem, der sich auskennt!

Thanks for this info, I will give the NH a try. Now the only thing I need is ... TICKETS!
Do you have any plans to go, too?

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Darling Pretty on July 13, 2011, 09:41:49 PM
Jepp.
I go as well-
Try cts later this week for tickets.
I tried NH 3 or 4 times now.
Good hotel. Last time after Iron Maiden were at the Arena in may.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 13, 2011, 09:44:57 PM
Then I am sure I see ya!

Iron Maiden and Mark Knopfler - wide range!

Just good music!  8)

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Darling Pretty on July 13, 2011, 09:50:51 PM
Yes. We will see each other.

Maiden? Just for fun. They are cool. But MK rules.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 13, 2011, 10:05:50 PM
Yes. We will see each other.

Maiden? Just for fun. They are cool. But MK rules.

We met last time, Remember? ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jabbathehut on July 14, 2011, 02:30:39 AM
bunch of uk dates up on bd offical website.Nothing for London yet though
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 14, 2011, 09:43:27 AM
For me it will be definately:
Rotterdam, Antwerp and Oberhausen.
Also thinking about Bournemouth and Glasgow.

I hope we will have the opportunity to buy pre-sale tickets

If you need a hotel it's nicer to stay at the Tryp in my opinion. There are some nice bars and restaurants and the next day you can take the train/tram back to the Central Station. Oberhausen itself is ugly, so the hotel near the CentrO is nicer to stay and enjoy a drink with other fans  :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 14, 2011, 09:44:03 AM
IT SEEMS MY OBERHAUSEN DATE IN THE FIRST POST IS WRONG ACCORDING TO THE POST OF MARKY48 AT THE OTHER THREAD...


so I edited the first post on this thread and have to cancel my hotel...  :disbelief :lol

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 14, 2011, 09:50:57 AM
What do you mean wrong, Marky says 23rd October
Oh, I see the first date mentioned was 30th and now it says 23rd
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Jarle on July 14, 2011, 09:52:08 AM
Why isn't Mark mentioned on Bob's page? Do we even know that they will tour together?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 14, 2011, 09:54:57 AM
Maybe MK has decided not to do it after all!   :o  Perhaps that's why it is not official here.   :-\
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Jarle on July 14, 2011, 09:57:23 AM
The way I see it, we still don't have anything official that he actually will join. Bob's page have shared the news of a tour, but if Mark was supposed to be on it, why dosen't it say so?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: qjamesfloyd on July 14, 2011, 11:01:46 AM
I just don't see how this is meant to work, Bob has fixed dates all through July, August, all September off, and dates through October and November, so, if Mark was to be there, it would just be as a guest, not a proper double billing tour like he did with EmmyLou, maybe Bob is recording in September, and Mark will be involved in that, remember Mark has said in the past he tours around his kids schooling, so that would only give him August to join Bob on stage.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on July 14, 2011, 11:18:54 AM
Just booked Nottingham travelodge
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jabbathehut on July 14, 2011, 11:23:48 AM
Special guest means just that.He will probably play a few songs with him each night or be a member of the band with some highlighted bits.I don't see him doing an hour on his own at the beginning of the show.This is being billed as BD show not BD and MK.
Why Mark is doing this who knows.Seems a very heavy tour schedule can see MK getting irritated early on and leaving.
Oh and no London shows ,not that i am bitter or anything
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 14, 2011, 11:25:58 AM
30 dates isn't something that should irritating MK much in my opinion. I think he needs at least 20 to get warm... He is used to do much heavier schedules, and it is all without too much far travelling. Germany/Europe is easy to do for them.

You could be right about the special guest, though.

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 14, 2011, 11:34:56 AM
Surely MK wouldn't have postponed mixing his album and delay it's release for only a small role in BD's tour, would he?   There must be more to this than we think.  Perhaps they are still discussing how much MK wil be involved before finally announcing the details officially.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jabbathehut on July 14, 2011, 12:27:44 PM
30 dates isn't something that should irritating MK much in my opinion. I think he needs at least 20 to get warm... He is used to do much heavier schedules, and it is all without too much far travelling. Germany/Europe is easy to do for them.

You could be right about the special guest, though.

LE
i am more worried about the quality of BD than MK due to the tour schedule should have made it clearer.Even so still a lot of travelling involved,hard to see why he would do it if he wasn't the main man.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 14, 2011, 02:10:17 PM
Ah, ok!

Well, Bob knows a thing or two about touring, too! But it IS surprising indeed how a 70 year old fellow is really going for this thing. Admirable.

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Jarle on July 14, 2011, 02:18:00 PM
The Danish music page Gaffa.dk writes that Bob will be touring this autumn, and that the rumors say that Mark will join him on parts of the tour... Maybe that's the case?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 14, 2011, 02:21:10 PM
parts... Hmm
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on July 14, 2011, 03:02:52 PM
If it's only parts, we're gonna be in big trouble !
Apart from Pottel, I don't see many MK fans ready to do more than one or two shows.

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on July 14, 2011, 03:06:03 PM
correct T85 :-)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Darling Pretty on July 14, 2011, 03:09:39 PM
Yes. We will see each other.

Maiden? Just for fun. They are cool. But MK rules.

We met last time, Remember? ;)

Jepp. Sure. Was a pleasure
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on July 14, 2011, 03:12:41 PM
Come on the powers that be......
WE NEED SOME CONFORMATION.... NOW!!!!

I can't stand the uncertainty anymore!!! ???

Cheers. BBB
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: marc96er on July 14, 2011, 03:18:27 PM
http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/frameset.php?frame=/dates.html

MARK & BOB: Okay, here is confirmation of the big news you've all been waiting for - Mark will be touring in Europe with Bob Dylan this autumn. Dates, countries, places and venues, plus presale and general onsale info, are on the tour dates page. (14/07/11)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jabbathehut on July 14, 2011, 03:29:17 PM
Very nice .Shame no London dates :'(
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on July 14, 2011, 03:36:08 PM
Now it's time to negociate  :P
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Silvertown on July 14, 2011, 03:46:43 PM
Mark with his own band, that
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Jackal on July 14, 2011, 03:50:44 PM
Well, whaddya know ... Will be fun to see how this will be.

Don't mean to be a party pooper, but I guess this kind of jeopardizes the chances of a 2012 tour?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 14, 2011, 04:05:19 PM
That's what I was thinking of this morning LE.
Maybe a late 2012 tour, however this is just a short tour so who knows.

Ok I can start to plan again. I think it will be Rotterdam, Antwerp, oberhausen and Glasgow ( easier then Bournemouth)

Great to have the news official
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on July 14, 2011, 04:12:07 PM
Well, whaddya know ... Will be fun to see how this will be.

Don't mean to be a party pooper, but I guess this kind of jeopardizes the chances of a 2012 tour?

Let's hope that it doesn't effect the 2012 tour. Mixing in early 2012 could mean a possible release in autumn 2012 and a consecutive tour in the summer of 2013. Oh, wait - now I should be starting to save some money for the BD/MK tour this year....
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 14, 2011, 04:28:26 PM
http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/frameset.php?frame=/dates.html

MARK & BOB: Okay, here is confirmation of the big news you've all been waiting for - Mark will be touring in Europe with Bob Dylan this autumn. Dates, countries, places and venues, plus presale and general onsale info, are on the tour dates page. (14/07/11)

HELP!   I have clicked here, but see nothing about the BD tour!    :o    Where is it, please?   
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on July 14, 2011, 04:32:44 PM
Just need tix prices now!!

Cheers BBB
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: marc96er on July 14, 2011, 04:33:42 PM
@ superval: If the direct-link doesn
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 14, 2011, 04:35:00 PM
http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/frameset.php?frame=/dates.html

MARK & BOB: Okay, here is confirmation of the big news you've all been waiting for - Mark will be touring in Europe with Bob Dylan this autumn. Dates, countries, places and venues, plus presale and general onsale info, are on the tour dates page. (14/07/11)

HELP!   I have clicked here, but see nothing about the BD tour!    :o    Where is it, please?   

Its there
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 14, 2011, 04:35:35 PM
I still can't see it!     :disbelief

All I see are the old tour dates- GL, etc!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: marc96er on July 14, 2011, 04:40:02 PM
Maybe you need to refresh your browser. Press Ctrl and F5 simultaneously when you
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: maggie on July 14, 2011, 04:43:31 PM



 click on the blue  www.markknopfler.com
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 14, 2011, 04:43:45 PM
Sorted!    I had a pop-up block on!   Phew!! ;D    Thanks everyone!   :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 14, 2011, 04:48:46 PM
Cool!

Mark with full band:
John McCusker and Mike McGoldrick, Richard, Guy and Glen as usual and the two (old) Newbies Ian Thomas on drums and Jim Cox, replacing Matt (who replaced Geraint who replaced Jim...)  So we can hope for Marbletown at least! And some new stuff. I am sure they want to test one or two new songs, it's the studio band after all!  :lol

Hannover is on the list, too! Must have missed that until now...


So Hamburg and Oberhausen for me this time!

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 14, 2011, 04:55:23 PM
Can't wait to book now!   ;D     I'm sooooooooo happy - MK and the band!! WOW   :P  :P
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on July 14, 2011, 05:00:51 PM
Can't wait to book now!   ;D     I'm sooooooooo happy - MK and the band!! WOW   :P  :P
If MK and his band, C. can join for more than one show. ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on July 14, 2011, 05:05:43 PM
Official!http://www.markknopfler.com/blogs/news/archive/2011/07/14/35490.aspx
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 14, 2011, 05:08:30 PM
Can't wait to book now!   ;D     I'm sooooooooo happy - MK and the band!! WOW   :P  :P
If MK and his band, C. can join for more than one show. ;)

Maybe, but I'll be happy with Manchester!   :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on July 14, 2011, 05:15:55 PM
I've just updated all my details including an up to date credit card
on the Official MK website, so I'm completely ready for the pre-sale.
Good job I did, cos most of my details were wrong.
Bring it on. ;D

Cheers. BBB
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 14, 2011, 05:29:13 PM
Official!http://www.markknopfler.com/blogs/news/archive/2011/07/14/35490.aspx


Lol, second time too slow pottel! ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on July 14, 2011, 05:37:05 PM
And there is this little piece of information:
"Mark says, "[...]Also, it was an honour to be asked to record one of Bob's songs on the forthcoming Amnesty International 50th anniversary album to mark his 70th birthday" "

What song could it be, did Bob release his 40th record already? Sure there is a lot of material to choose from:
http://www.bobdylan.com/songs
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 14, 2011, 05:48:59 PM
http://www.theo2.ie/event/bob-dylan-and-mark-knopfler/

Tadaaa!

Ticketprices between 60 and 90 euros!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 14, 2011, 05:56:13 PM
http://www.theo2.ie/event/bob-dylan-and-mark-knopfler/

Tadaaa!

Ticketprices between 60 and 90 euros!

I wonder if the prices will be different with MK.Com and perhaps they will vary for other venues.

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: marc96er on July 14, 2011, 06:00:45 PM
http://www.mlk.com/bob_dylan_mark_knopfler/1351-a_unique_evening_-_2011

The general German presale starts on wednesday 20.07.2011, while there
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 14, 2011, 06:28:30 PM
Here is the list on MK.com, with the venue websites. Higher prices than MK solo.
Pre sale mostly starts next week I think...

http://www.markknopfler.com/tour/
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Kay Edvin on July 14, 2011, 06:32:31 PM
I just emailed Paul Crockford and asked about if they will add more dates to the tour and if there are any plans to visit Norway.
Got this answer very quick:

"No plans to add to the tour and no plans to go to Norway. PC"

Then I will go to Stockholm I think!

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Silvertown on July 14, 2011, 06:36:20 PM
It would be nice to have some kind of estimate is it one hour set per artist or more? It can
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Chardonnay on July 14, 2011, 06:47:42 PM

According to http://www.mlk.com/bob_dylan_mark_knopfler/1351-a_unique_evening_-_2011   every Band plays one part. :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 14, 2011, 07:17:27 PM
From the Dylan forum: :disbelief

One more thing, the swedish promoter also say that they won
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 14, 2011, 07:24:14 PM
You don't think MK will go on tour with his own musicians and then only play a couple of songs. I don't think so. Just wishful thinking for the Dylan-fans who are in my opinion pretty negative.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: JeroenvG on July 14, 2011, 07:29:32 PM
Before I plan anything I want to have some more information. What is MK gonna play and what BD.
Don't want the songs but a time.

Like 1 hour MK and 1 hour BD! And 1 hour in MK time is eeehhm 8 songs? I don't like the idea!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 14, 2011, 07:30:40 PM
You don't think MK will go on tour with his own musicians and then only play a couple of songs. I don't think so. Just wishful thinking for the Dylan-fans who are in my opinion pretty negative.

Precisely, Ingrid.  Why would MK go to the trouble of gathering together all the musicians in the band from US and around UK for a short opening set!   It doesn't make sense.  
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Silvertown on July 14, 2011, 07:33:41 PM
Before I plan anything I want to have some more information. What is MK gonna play and what BD.
Don't want the songs but a time.

That is just what I feel. And we really don
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 14, 2011, 07:40:40 PM
LOL Silvertown.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jabbathehut on July 14, 2011, 07:52:36 PM
Feel like a kid looking through the window watching everyone else having fun whilst i'm stuck at home.Why no London date? and for that matter no spanish dates? :'(
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 14, 2011, 07:56:46 PM
Oh, London is always worth travelling, isn't it? What about Tattooine, why the heck did he never play there...
Sorry, couldn't resist.... Where are you from, if you don't mind?

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: marky49 on July 14, 2011, 07:59:20 PM
From the Dylan forum: :disbelief

One more thing, the swedish promoter also say that they won
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on July 14, 2011, 08:09:28 PM
From the Dylan forum: :disbelief

One more thing, the swedish promoter also say that they won
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on July 14, 2011, 08:12:00 PM
But then what's the point of this tour? And why does he postpone his album release if he will only play one or two songs with Dylan?
Dylan is like God for MK. Like Chet Atkins or Hank Marvin. That's it.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on July 14, 2011, 08:14:21 PM
But then what's the point of this tour? And why does he postpone his album release if he will only play one or two songs with Dylan?
Dylan is like God for MK. Like Chet Atkins or Hank Marvin. That's it.

Well but if he only wants to play one or two songs with his "God" he could invite him over to British Grove for a jam session...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 14, 2011, 08:22:47 PM
If one of the  songs he sings with BD is "Blind Willie McTell" it will all be worthwhile!   :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: marky49 on July 14, 2011, 08:36:13 PM
But then what's the point of this tour? And why does he postpone his album release if he will only play one or two songs with Dylan?
Dylan is like God for MK. Like Chet Atkins or Hank Marvin. That's it.

Well but if he only wants to play one or two songs with his "God" he could invite him over to British Grove for a jam session...

In the music business artists are proud 'to share the bill' with someone who is/was famous...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on July 14, 2011, 08:43:35 PM
But then what's the point of this tour? And why does he postpone his album release if he will only play one or two songs with Dylan?
Dylan is like God for MK. Like Chet Atkins or Hank Marvin. That's it.

Well but if he only wants to play one or two songs with his "God" he could invite him over to British Grove for a jam session...

In the music business artists are proud 'to share the bill' with someone who is/was famous...

True but after all it's just a nostalgia hype and a way to earn money...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 14, 2011, 08:48:34 PM
But then what's the point of this tour? And why does he postpone his album release if he will only play one or two songs with Dylan?
Dylan is like God for MK. Like Chet Atkins or Hank Marvin. That's it.

Well but if he only wants to play one or two songs with his "God" he could invite him over to British Grove for a jam session...

In the music business artists are proud 'to share the bill' with someone who is/was famous...

True but after all it's just a nostalgia hype and a way to earn money...

For MK, I'm sure that playing with Bob is far more important than the money.   It is the pride of playing with his hero that matters!   :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Jackal on July 14, 2011, 08:53:40 PM

For MK, I'm sure that playing with Bob is far more important than the money.   It is the pride of playing with his hero that matters!   :)

But if the show is split in two halves, then they don't really play together ...

I was hoping Mark would be playing alone with Dylan's band, though. At least, let's hope that he'll dump the Donegan's Gone Home setlist.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 14, 2011, 08:57:42 PM

For MK, I'm sure that playing with Bob is far more important than the money.   It is the pride of playing with his hero that matters!   :)

But if the show is split in two halves, then they don't really play together ...

I was hoping Mark would be playing alone with Dylan's band, though. At least, let's hope that he'll dump the Donegan's Gone Home setlist.

But it is expected that they will play SOME songs together!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on July 14, 2011, 08:59:47 PM
But then what's the point of this tour? And why does he postpone his album release if he will only play one or two songs with Dylan?
Dylan is like God for MK. Like Chet Atkins or Hank Marvin. That's it.

Well but if he only wants to play one or two songs with his "God" he could invite him over to British Grove for a jam session...

In the music business artists are proud 'to share the bill' with someone who is/was famous...

True but after all it's just a nostalgia hype and a way to earn money...

For MK, I'm sure that playing with Bob is far more important than the money.   It is the pride of playing with his hero that matters!   :)

I can understand how much this means to MK. But joining him for only two songs? Come on! That would be disappointing.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 14, 2011, 09:01:12 PM
Who said TWO songs - it could be more, we don't know yet.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 14, 2011, 09:02:10 PM
@Goldenheart

So you are not going then?

I will, Hamburg and Oberhausen. Looking forward to it very much.

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 14, 2011, 09:05:01 PM
I will be going, if I can get tickets.  I feel it could be something momentous, if not it will definitely be an experience I probably won't forget - for better or for worse!   ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on July 14, 2011, 09:05:40 PM
The two song thing was hypothetical, I KNOW that. But it could be true. I just followed that thought, And LE, I am not sure yet. I will probably go to Mannheim. It's MK onstage after all.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: marky49 on July 14, 2011, 09:41:19 PM
The two song thing was hypothetical, I KNOW that. But it could be true. I just followed that thought, And LE, I am not sure yet. I will probably go to Mannheim. It's MK onstage after all.

Join me again in Mannheim  :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Fieneke2 on July 14, 2011, 09:42:17 PM
Whaauww this is indeed great news, BUT I won
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on July 14, 2011, 10:39:44 PM
Ok, I do remember the stories about MK drinking cups of coffee in dozens while listening to BD in his very youth. BD surely is one of his idols. I suppose that even today touring with BD is still a real honour to him.

Hey, I Never thought of the opportunity of seeing MK live on stage in 2011 - so that is really a big surprise to me! Even if he is going to play 60 minutes doing the "usual" playlist, it's gonna be fun! I wasn't prepared for a tour in 2011, so I'm only going to make it for one show. But I'm sure that this is going to be a lot of fun, I guess the last two songs will be played by MK and BD together. And to Fieneke: Don't worry, there'll be sunshine after rain, and I'm pretty sure that there will be A LOT of videos and bootlegs of this short tour. And 2012 or 2013 we're gonna have a real MK solo world-tour to look forward to!

 :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 14, 2011, 10:41:12 PM
NO Spain!!!!

NO London!!!
 :(  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on July 14, 2011, 10:44:45 PM
NO Spain!!!!

NO London!!!
 :(  >:(  >:(


Yep, that is a real pity! Perhaps it has something to do with BD/poor record sales?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jabbathehut on July 14, 2011, 10:53:35 PM
Well you never know,maybe MK will play some standalone gigs after his stint with BD is over seeing as he has assembled the band and he doesn't seem to be in any hurry to release his new album.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on July 14, 2011, 11:27:10 PM
The two song thing was hypothetical, I KNOW that. But it could be true. I just followed that thought, And LE, I am not sure yet. I will probably go to Mannheim. It's MK onstage after all.

Join me again in Mannheim  :)

Looks like it  :) BTW I hope they will announce the fan presale ASAP! Getting a little anxious... I won't be near a computer Wed 20 at 9 when the official presale starts and my iPhone still doesnt work...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Waterline Man on July 14, 2011, 11:51:05 PM
I was just reading some of the reviews on Bobs recent gig here in Ireland on http://www.ticketmaster.ie/Bob-Dylan-tickets/artist/734972  & they werent that great to be honest.I was going to go to that gig last month as I had never seen Bob before but I'm glad that I didnt now as I'll get two in one at the Dublin gig.I cant say that its floating my boat at the moment but MK is MK & I know that I'll be itching to go the nearer it gets.The one good thing is that Dublin is the first one so the set list wont be out there.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 15, 2011, 08:11:35 AM
@Goldenheart:
There is a O2more.First Ticket pre-sale two days earlier, starting on July, 18th. Haven't worked out yet what I have to do to get them..

And on the MLK site (Marek Lieberberg Konzertagentur) there is a press-kit,

http://www.mlk.com/bob_dylan_mark_knopfler/1351-a_unique_evening_-_2011#backstage (http://www.mlk.com/bob_dylan_mark_knopfler/1351-a_unique_evening_-_2011#backstage)

click on Press-Kit.

It says that "both artists and their formations will do one half of the concert each".
So this is the first time I read a "real" information. Seems Mark will play more than two songs then.

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on July 15, 2011, 09:21:22 AM
The two song thing was hypothetical, I KNOW that. But it could be true. I just followed that thought, And LE, I am not sure yet. I will probably go to Mannheim. It's MK onstage after all.

Join me again in Mannheim  :)
me too this time, if work schedule allows me
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Fletch on July 15, 2011, 09:27:36 AM
God, I just got back from a weeks holiday to hear all this news!

I'm seriously considering flying out on my own to catch one of these shows - once in a lifetime moment I reckon! Where would be the most concentrated members of AMIT be?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 15, 2011, 09:37:42 AM
Hi Fletch,
Normally it's London, but now I can't tell which concert would be then most visited by AMIT-members.
Can someone set up a poll? But it has to be one where you can choose more dates, because I guess a lot of us won't do only one  ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Fletch on July 15, 2011, 10:45:54 AM
I've just seen all the dots on the MK website. Nottingham, Germany or Italy look appealing, lol!
I haven't the foggiest idea how to go about this, how do you buy a ticket? I've got loads of frequent flyer points that will get me there though, and I've just run the idea by my wife, and she didn't slap me or throw anything.
Are you going Ian? This is a must I reckon.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on July 15, 2011, 10:56:33 AM
Hey Fletch, i'll be going to Nottingham as it's the closest to me.
So if you decide to go (You can't miss it) ;D ;D :P then i'd be happy to meet up with you.

BTW. @ Ingrid. Me & Tina will be in Amsterdam on Sun/Mon to see Take That (not my choice, a Christmas present for the wife)!! :lol
It is at the Ajax football stadium.

Cheers  BBB
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on July 15, 2011, 11:17:44 AM
my shows:
definites:Antwerp, Rotterdam, Oberhausen
Maybes (big chance):Mannehim, M
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on July 15, 2011, 11:26:51 AM
@Goldenheart:
There is a O2more.First Ticket pre-sale two days earlier, starting on July, 18th. Haven't worked out yet what I have to do to get them..

And on the MLK site (Marek Lieberberg Konzertagentur) there is a press-kit,

http://www.mlk.com/bob_dylan_mark_knopfler/1351-a_unique_evening_-_2011#backstage (http://www.mlk.com/bob_dylan_mark_knopfler/1351-a_unique_evening_-_2011#backstage)

click on Press-Kit.

It says that "both artists and their formations will do one half of the concert each".
So this is the first time I read a "real" information. Seems Mark will play more than two songs then.

LE

Ha, as always, we have to figure out the informations by ourselves and can't rely on MKNews.com... Wonder why I'm still surprised...  ::)
'kay then, I will try that O2more thing... Who knows, maybe this will be the "fan presale", LOL!
Glad to hear about the "each will do one set" thing  :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 15, 2011, 11:31:07 AM
I asked Guy a question about sets.  His reply:

All I know is that we are going on stage first and will do our set, then Bob comes on with his band. As to whether the two shall meet...we don't know yet.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on July 15, 2011, 12:06:43 PM
I guess I'm fortunate in having two shows only 40 miles along the road but after all the build-up and excitement over MK getting on the road again, now suddenly I'm slightly less enamoured by it all.  

Firstly would have liked MK to play on Dylans songs like he did on Claptons in the late 80s as well as playing his own.  

Secondly not being a Dylan fan I'm not bothered about his set once MK is finished so I think it would be better if the songs were mixed (obviously the band would be mixed too in that case).  It would also mean we might have the problem of Dylan fans not bothered about MK arriving throughout his set taking their seats or talking etc.  

Thirdly MK's band line-up suggests the songs we will be getting and they will be sending me to sleep.  What It Is and Philadelphia are bankers, Marbletown probably too.  I really think that since they know it will be mostly MK die hards there they could play some lesser played or never before played tunes instead of being steady Eddie all the time.  Come on, give us a treat! ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: marc96er on July 15, 2011, 12:55:16 PM
@Goldenheart:
There is a O2more.First Ticket pre-sale two days earlier, starting on July, 18th. Haven't worked out yet what I have to do to get them..

And on the MLK site (Marek Lieberberg Konzertagentur) there is a press-kit,

http://www.mlk.com/bob_dylan_mark_knopfler/1351-a_unique_evening_-_2011#backstage (http://www.mlk.com/bob_dylan_mark_knopfler/1351-a_unique_evening_-_2011#backstage)

click on Press-Kit.

It says that "both artists and their formations will do one half of the concert each".
So this is the first time I read a "real" information. Seems Mark will play more than two songs then.

LE

Ha, as always, we have to figure out the informations by ourselves and can't rely on MKNews.com... Wonder why I'm still surprised...  ::)
'kay then, I will try that O2more thing... Who knows, maybe this will be the "fan presale", LOL!
Glad to hear about the "each will do one set" thing  :)

http://www.o2more.de/s/o2-more/info/was-ist-o2more/?WT.ac=navi1

I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: schmonka on July 15, 2011, 01:19:01 PM
Like others have said - im in two minds with this one...

Yes on the one hand this is MK and how often does he tour - would be great to catch him live....

BUT - you can almost predict the set list and thats dissapointing....

Decisions.... ???
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 15, 2011, 01:49:12 PM
Nigel!!! You are telling me this now  :o
I texted you.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Banjo99uk on July 15, 2011, 01:51:10 PM
Yes, what to do, what to do? Especially as the South of England only has one date.  Do I want to spend my hard earned on hearing STP etc again.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: koobaa on July 15, 2011, 02:42:09 PM
If MK does not get to play on at least few Dylan's songs this tour makes little sense to me. Two separate sets, two bands, two hours. Why bother if they don't get to share the stage? There's gotta be more to it than just two separate sets. I hope.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on July 15, 2011, 02:57:07 PM
If MK does not get to play on at least few Dylan's songs this tour makes little sense to me. Two separate sets, two bands, two hours. Why bother if they don't get to share the stage? There's gotta be more to it than just two separate sets. I hope.
Mk's set then Bob's set then Mark join Bob's band for the encores. Makes sense to me.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Jackal on July 15, 2011, 02:59:21 PM
If they play together, it's like "buy a set of gold cufflings, and get a matching gold tie clip for free".

If they don't play together, it's like "buy a set of gold cufflings, and get a garden hose for free". (Whoever is the garden hose, depends whether you're in the Knopfler or Dylan camp.)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 15, 2011, 03:07:46 PM
If MK does not get to play on at least few Dylan's songs this tour makes little sense to me. Two separate sets, two bands, two hours. Why bother if they don't get to share the stage? There's gotta be more to it than just two separate sets. I hope.
Mk's set then Bob's set then Mark join Bob's band for the encores. Makes sense to me.

Of course it makes sense, otherwise we might as well have had two separate shows entirely!   I'm sure they'll come together for encores!   ::)    I just hope the BD fans don't make a nuisance of themselves during MK's part.   :-\
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Knopflerfan on July 15, 2011, 03:54:07 PM
Personally it's going to be rude not to go and see MK as he is on my doorstep here in sunny Bournemouth, and am sure he will play along with BD otherwise there is no real point to the tour is there? I look at it this way that if the audience are true music fans they should appreciate both artists and really there shouldn't be any of 'Mark is better than Bob' or vice versa purely because they are both great in their own right!!!
Mind you if all else fails you can always have a sleep during BD's bit!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 15, 2011, 04:03:41 PM
Just noticed on the Manchester MEN site that tickets will be on sale at 9am on Monday 18th July.  No mention of pre-sale tickets on MK.Com site yet!   :-\    Maybe we book direct with the venue?   Prices are
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: schmonka on July 15, 2011, 04:05:44 PM
Just noticed on the Manchester MEN site that tickets will be on sale at 9am on Monday 18th July.  No mention of pre-sale tickets on MK.Com site yet!   :-\    Maybe we book direct with the venue?   Prices are
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 15, 2011, 04:10:04 PM
It's actually more like
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: schmonka on July 15, 2011, 04:33:17 PM
It's actually more like
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: marky49 on July 15, 2011, 04:44:09 PM
Dublin has got tickets up to 91 Euro = 80 GBP plus fee
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Waterline Man on July 15, 2011, 04:49:11 PM
Pre - sale is great but for me I've been there & done that with & without success - i was front row mid stage, 6 feet away from MK for the emmy lou tour in Dublin WOW :o :o what a treat, for GL I got front row as well but I was way over at the side of the stage :o :oThey certainly werent the best seats in the world for pre-sale even though they were front row - I'd have been better off 10 rows back anywhere in the O2.
So my point is that for me,anywhere within 10 rows of the front are fine,plus you dont have a pain in  your neck either for a week after the gig from looking up rather than down ::) ::)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 15, 2011, 05:08:09 PM
I was very pleased with my GL seats.  Dublin, Manchester and Brighton - front row just to the right of MK.  Bournemouth front row, but way over to the left, so I would have been better more to the centre, a row or two back, on that occasion.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on July 15, 2011, 05:11:20 PM
Pre - sale is great but for me I've been there & done that with & without success - i was front row mid stage, 6 feet away from MK for the emmy lou tour in Dublin WOW :o :o what a treat, for GL I got front row as well but I was way over at the side of the stage :o :oThey certainly werent the best seats in the world for pre-sale even though they were front row - I'd have been better off 10 rows back anywhere in the O2.
So my point is that for me,anywhere within 10 rows of the front are fine,plus you dont have a pain in  your neck either for a week after the gig from looking up rather than down ::) ::)
My sentiments too.  I was the same at Glasgow for the GL tour;  front row but right at the side, even beyond Richard!  Also at Lucca I was front row again but that time beyond Glenn!  The pre-sale is a bad thing in my experience when you don't know where you are sitting.  I got a ticket for the RAH from an agency in the stalls, section "O" and it was the best view of the lot.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 15, 2011, 05:40:23 PM
Guy has updated and uses the words "value" and "money" in relation with "concert" and "one hour". I find that very promising and cool. It seems the show will maybe take longer than two hours. He says he knows in fact that it won't be a two hour show.

Last time MK.com front row Hamburg, dead center (next to Isaac  :lol), London row eight or nine or something...

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 15, 2011, 06:18:32 PM
Just had email from TK announcing most of the tickets will be on sale Monday 18th July 9am!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on July 15, 2011, 06:26:45 PM
Me too, I'm probably being thick, but is it a pre sale
Or are these 9.00 on the 18th tix on sale to the general public too?

Cheers BBB
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 15, 2011, 06:28:59 PM
It seems to be the case BBB!    Maybe MK.com have a block of seats reserved? 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on July 15, 2011, 06:32:52 PM
Are MK reserved seats better than BD reserved seats?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: marky49 on July 15, 2011, 06:48:05 PM
Me too, I'm probably being thick, but is it a pre sale
Or are these 9.00 on the 18th tix on sale to the general public too?

Cheers BBB

Public sale is starting from July 20.
And, watch the time zones between continent and Britain...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on July 15, 2011, 07:31:07 PM
Just received an email from MK.com saying presale will start on July 18, 9 BST. I assume BST means British Standard Time or something; so it's 10 o'clock in Germany??  ???
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on July 15, 2011, 07:32:25 PM
Thanks Marky49.
As it happens I'll actually be in Amsterdam on the 18th,
so I hope I don't make a mistake with the time zones.
Also I won't have my laptop, only my iPhone, so I hope
there won't be a problem!
Any idea on how many tix one individual can get?
I'm hoping to get 3 tix for Nottingham UK.

Cheers BBB
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 15, 2011, 07:53:22 PM
@Goldenheart:

My e-mail from MK.com said that all German dates start pre-sale at July 18th, at 9:00 CEST which should mean Central European Summer Time which is the time we have in Germany right now. So 9:00 on Monday morning in Germany means 9:00 on Monday morning in Germany!  ;D


LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: marky49 on July 15, 2011, 07:58:53 PM
Just received an email from MK.com saying presale will start on July 18, 9 BST. I assume BST means British Standard Time or something; so it's 10 o'clock in Germany??  ???

BST means British Summer Time. Don't tell someone I'm German ... ;D But I'm used to fly back and forth between London and Stuttgart or Frankfurt. Britain is one hour behind the Continent. Don't get confused.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: marky49 on July 15, 2011, 08:04:17 PM
Thanks Marky49.
As it happens I'll actually be in Amsterdam on the 18th,
so I hope I don't make a mistake with the time zones.
Also I won't have my laptop, only my iPhone, so I hope
there won't be a problem!
Any idea on how many tix one individual can get?
I'm hoping to get 3 tix for Nottingham UK.

Cheers BBB


Four tickets is probably the limit again...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 15, 2011, 09:19:20 PM
Anybody thinking of going to GLasgow send me a PM so we can try to get seats together. :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ubhal on July 15, 2011, 09:47:56 PM
I hope to go to Glasgow Dusty. I have sent you a PM.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 16, 2011, 12:22:11 AM
 Sorry to get back to this annoying thing but look what I found at this Expecting Rain... forum: It is truly and utterly ridiculous! I could not believe what I was reading, so much ignorance and pure stupidness


...
well, mainstream can be enjoyable once in a while. But I don't think that Bob's music and performances will resonate very well with MKs audience (i.e. pop fans) and thus there will be a lot of people talking and complaining during Bob's set...


I' m afraid that's true...  

Bob 1st
means at the end of the show a giggling and talking crowd enters the venue...

Bob 2nd
means a giggling and talking crowd leaves the venue...

I want Bob! Sorry for Mr. Knopfler (I like him - but I'd never visit one of his solo-shows) - the fans are too different...

 

Oh boy, I hope these disrespectful fans/forumers will stay out of any O2 Arena in Germany or Europe I could think of. Better to see MK in an only half filled arena instead of
sharing him with this .... bunch....

However, one thing IS true: The fans are too different...

sorry, I had to post this!

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 16, 2011, 12:26:26 AM
You are right LE, I read those stupid things too over there...

And some of them are going to Rotterdam :disbelief :disbelief
If they are standing next to me, I think i'm gonna fart as hell :lol
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on July 16, 2011, 12:49:49 AM
Okay, thanks LE and marky, so I will be in front of my PC on Monday at 9 and see what happens  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Waterline Man on July 16, 2011, 02:13:50 AM
Just copied & pasted this off the MK website in relation to the Dublin gig- not cheap by any means over
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 16, 2011, 07:29:38 AM
If they are standing next to me, I think i'm gonna fart as hell :lol

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  :disbelief  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

No open flame is allowed!  :P



LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 16, 2011, 08:16:04 AM
Okay, thanks LE and marky, so I will be in front of my PC on Monday at 9 and see what happens  ;D

What annoys me is the fact that both my shows start at the same time. So for one show I will lose time. Any tricks there, apart from using to computers?  ::)

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 16, 2011, 09:00:19 AM
I noticed a few posts on the Expecting Rain forum saying that they had joined MK.com (for the tickets)!    Every day on MK.com there are hundreds of new members registering - obviously BD fans!    :disbelief
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: schmonka on July 16, 2011, 10:22:44 AM
Ive just checked the Cardiff show and saw which seats MK.com were offering for us fans.....they were in the block the FURTHEST away from the stage - actually at the very back of the hall - how rubbish is that!!!

Check which seats MK.com is offering you - you may be disappointed!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 16, 2011, 10:33:26 AM
For Manchester, it says Blocks A, B or C  Rows A to D, so that doesn't seem too bad!   
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: schmonka on July 16, 2011, 10:35:05 AM
Ive also noticed Cardiff has a "standing, General Admission" option - in my experience - standing gigs AKA rugby scrums....!

Im getting more turned off by this the more i find out....!

Why is Cardiff a Standing Gig??!!!! >:(
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 16, 2011, 11:03:17 AM
Standing tickets also for sale for Glasgow. AND tickets go on sale on Ticketmaster at 9am Monday morning, same time as mk.com.  :-\

Surley the standing area will be right in front of the stage?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 16, 2011, 11:06:31 AM
I was standing in Amsterdam and I loved it!   We were right at the stageside and had great fun.  The downside is that you have to queue all afternoon to be at the front - not good in the wind and rain, or for eating before the show!   :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: JeroenvG on July 16, 2011, 11:22:13 AM
I was reading
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 16, 2011, 11:23:43 AM
Standing tickets also for sale for Glasgow. AND tickets go on sale on Ticketmaster at 9am Monday morning, same time as mk.com.  :-\

Surley the standing area will be right in front of the stage?

I think so, that happened with the Amsterdam shows as well and I decided to buy the tickets in the general sae, as they send them to my home instead of pick them at the hall, so if anything happens and I cant attend the show I can send them to a friend etc etc

I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 16, 2011, 11:29:03 AM
I noticed a few posts on the Expecting Rain forum saying that they had joined MK.com (for the tickets)!    Every day on MK.com there are hundreds of new members registering - obviously BD fans!    :disbelief

I knew that was about to happen...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 16, 2011, 11:40:22 AM
If it's standing anyway then it doesn't really matter, just a case of elbowing your way to the front. :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Banjo99uk on July 16, 2011, 12:26:48 PM
Blimey, there's already VIP tickets on Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BOB-DYLAN-MARK-KNOPFLER-VIP-Suite-Places-MEN-Arena-/370527186021?pt=UK_Tickets_Tickets_LE&hash=item5645242c65
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 16, 2011, 01:31:59 PM
And Bob Dylan site its not offering his usual presale (nor mentioning Mark Knopfler is playing with him):

http://www.bobdylan.com/tour (http://www.bobdylan.com/tour)

However, it looks like its not a presale at all, you can purchase the tickets from Ticketmaster the same day, same time, specilly if you are buying standing tickets. If you are searching for seated tickets, check before, in some cases marknopfler.com is offering not very good seats...

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on July 16, 2011, 01:45:35 PM
And Bob Dylan site its not offering his usual presale (nor mentioning Mark Knopfler is playing with him):

http://www.bobdylan.com/tour (http://www.bobdylan.com/tour)


Assuming that they didn't forget MK (and band!) by mistake: What a bunch of ignorant ......
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 16, 2011, 01:50:21 PM
Expecting Rain is an extremely ignorant and arrogant forum.  They ridicule MK, but at the same time are quite happy to take advantage of MK.Com tickets!   I dread to think what the BD fans will be like at the concerts!    :disbelief
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on July 16, 2011, 01:51:14 PM
Yes, Dylan fans are weird... Not all of them of course but I had to work at a Dylan convention once and those were the rudest, strangest idiots I have ever met. A friend of mine is a huge Dylan fan and even he says I'm right...

Anyway, 120 Euro is a lot of money... I'd be willing to spend it on MK alone but with Dylan... That means I'll pay 60 Euro to get the worst migraine of my life  ;D
Was thinking of doing two shows, Berlin is on a Saturday, but now I'm not so sure anymore.
Ha but I'm looking forward to writing my review of the Mannheim show. Who knows, maybe I'll be positively surprised and you will all laugh at me  :lol
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 16, 2011, 01:54:47 PM
And Bob Dylan site its not offering his usual presale (nor mentioning Mark Knopfler is playing with him):

http://www.bobdylan.com/tour (http://www.bobdylan.com/tour)


Assuming that they didn't forget MK by mistake: What a bunch of ignorant ......

Someone (a Moderator) did say that the BD website is a very sloppy one, when mentioning the omission of MK!   
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 16, 2011, 01:56:17 PM
According to the Glasgow venue, the concert will run for 3 hours, so that is much better than previously thought!   :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on July 16, 2011, 01:59:14 PM
And Bob Dylan site its not offering his usual presale (nor mentioning Mark Knopfler is playing with him):

http://www.bobdylan.com/tour (http://www.bobdylan.com/tour)


Assuming that they didn't forget MK by mistake: What a bunch of ignorant ......

Someone (a Moderator) did say that the BD website is a very sloppy one, when mentioning the omission of MK!   

Ah, ok! Thanks.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 16, 2011, 03:44:22 PM
I am not a concert T-shirt guy, but hey, with these Dylan blokes around, I WANT to show that I am there for MK! I want an AMIT Shirt! Is there one possibly availabe?
I am not good at these things, I mean creating an own motive and stuff (it has to signal MARK KNOPFLER IS THE GREATEST ARTIST IN THE WORLD WHO THE F..K  IS
EXPECTING RAIN! IT NEVER RAINS! LOVE EXPRESSO)

Or something like that...

One can get childish  ::), but these guys are really a pain in the neck for me. But on the other side, they might only be a few of them.... Not every forum cummunity can be so great at this AMIT one!

3h show would be great. Even if Bob would have a bad day, I probably would not have any problem to go early and leave the venue when I am filled with 70 or 80 minutes of MK music...

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 16, 2011, 03:50:31 PM
Just one thing, though, LE - I'm sure there will be an interval of, say, 15 mins between sets, won't there?   Maybe too a bit of a break, if they come together at the end?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 16, 2011, 03:55:13 PM
LE, About the T-shirt!   The AMIT banner at the top of the page could be OK and it's not copyright!  We would need Nelly's permission, of course!   ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 16, 2011, 04:02:02 PM
Yeah, I wanted to write "90 minutes of Mark", but I hope 70 or 80 at least? Would be 10, 15 Minutes break and Bob as, we have to say it directly, headliner, has full 90 minutes - included maybe a visit from Mark for the last two or three songs - I hope unplugged, acoustic, just the two of them, doing Blind Willie or whatever...

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 16, 2011, 04:02:58 PM
3 hours  show sounds good, but there will be a break to change the gear and that will take 1/2 hour at least I think  ???
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Fieneke2 on July 16, 2011, 04:06:55 PM
You are right LE, I read those stupid things too over there...

And some of them are going to Rotterdam :disbelief :disbelief
If they are standing next to me, I think i'm gonna fart as hell :lol

OMG Dutchessy, you made me Laugh Out Loud! It's so funny!(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Roflbig.gif) ........BUT just like the MK fans, I think almost all of the BD fans are very nice people as well!

I have a few comments!

About the prices of the tickets: I also think the prices of tickets are too expensive especial because we go with 2 persons! It might not be too high when you are a fan of both artists, then you sure might have the evening of your life, but being a fan of Mark and the guys only, I am not willing to pay about Euro 180,00 till about Euro 220,00 for 1
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Fieneke2 on July 16, 2011, 04:18:10 PM
Here is an example of the set lists for the BD shows these days in the USA.
I recognize some of the songs and like them. It seems that Bob changes 3 of his songs!
It will be nice to see which songs he will play in Europe!LOL

July 14
1.    Gonna Change My Way Of Thinking
2.    Don't Think Twice, It's All Right
3.    Things Have Changed
4.    Tangled Up In Blue
5.    Beyond Here Lies Nothin'
6.    If You Ever Go To Houston
7.    High Water (for Charlie Patton)
8.    Simple Twist Of Fate
9.    The Levee's Gonna Break
10.    A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall
11.    Highway 61 Revisited
12.    Forgetful Heart
13.    Thunder On The Mountain
14.    Ballad Of A Thin Man
15.    Like A Rolling Stone
16.    All Along The Watchtower
17.    Blowin' In The Wind

July 15
1.    Gonna Change My Way Of Thinking
2.    Don't Think Twice, It's All Right
3.    Things Have Changed
4.    Tangled Up In Blue
5.    Beyond Here Lies Nothin'
6.    Sugar Baby
7.    High Water (for Charlie Patton)
8.    Tryin' To Get To Heaven
9.    Summer Days
10.    A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall
11.    Highway 61 Revisited
12.    Forgetful Heart
13.    Thunder On The Mountain
14.    Ballad Of A Thin Man
15.    Like A Rolling Stone
16.    All Along The Watchtower
17.    Blowin' In The Wind


Numbers 6 / 8 and 9 are different

Fieneke
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on July 16, 2011, 04:25:59 PM
Yes, Dylan fans are weird... Not all of them of course but I had to work at a Dylan convention once and those were the rudest, strangest idiots I have ever met. A friend of mine is a huge Dylan fan and even he says I'm right...

Anyway, 120 Euro is a lot of money... I'd be willing to spend it on MK alone but with Dylan... That means I'll pay 60 Euro to get the worst migraine of my life  ;D
Was thinking of doing two shows, Berlin is on a Saturday, but now I'm not so sure anymore.
Ha but I'm looking forward to writing my review of the Mannheim show. Who knows, maybe I'll be positively surprised and you will all laugh at me  :lol
Dylan fans ? I've been once to a Dylan show and there actually was a couple of strange idiots. Drunk people a bit too noisy. Just a coincidence, funny story.  ;)
I have the same concerns about Berlin. It was my first option as a second show but I don't like the prices.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on July 16, 2011, 04:37:35 PM
I recognize some of the songs and like them. It seems that Bob changes 3 of his songs!
Only 3 ? That's strange !  ;) I guess he is trying to get used to MK's standards.
Usually he changes up to 10 or 12 songs every night !
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 16, 2011, 05:08:11 PM
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Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Darling Pretty on July 16, 2011, 05:15:57 PM
Hmmmm.
EUR 119 for the best tix in Oberhausen and 90 mns of Bob?
Too much I think. For Mark alone. Yeap.

I will buy the best cheap tickets. They are good enough and near the beer stand. When Bob enters I can get me some. So I won't disturb his his set and the lovely fans.    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: knopflerized on July 16, 2011, 05:33:43 PM
Feeling disapointed with the tickets price...(here too)
Berlin (120
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 16, 2011, 05:38:48 PM
Feeling disapointed with the tickets price...(here too)
Berlin (120
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: schmonka on July 16, 2011, 05:51:48 PM
Sadly i dont want to que up from mid day on the day of the concert - just to be in the front - if there were reserved seats instead of standing only in my local venue then i may have gone..

BUT - it seems for me - MK.com don't have any better seating options than ticketmaster - whose tickets go on sale at exactly the same time for the exact same standing area - id hardly call this "presale". 

The price isn't really floating my boat either - thats a lot of spondoolies to see MK and BD - whose music doesn't do THAT much for me....

So - its with a heavy heart - this mini tour - ill be listening to the bootlegs and saving my hard earned cash for summer 2012...hope those that are going have a great time and i hope the set list from MK isn't as predictable as we are all suspecting...

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: knopflerized on July 16, 2011, 06:12:38 PM
Hey Nelly - Fly to Manchester!  The seats are only
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: MK4ever on July 16, 2011, 07:31:51 PM
Mark K and Bobby D, in Jyske Bank Boxen...I'll be there ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 16, 2011, 08:27:24 PM
Ok, I made my decision. Only one show for me, Oberhausen.  Because two shows means two nights in a hotel, two train tickets... No. I will be happy to go to Oberhausen, it is a Sunday, Monday is my day off, fits perfectly well, so no second show. Sorry, Hamburg, but this time you won't see me. Just too expensive.

I hope Mark will not use this as an excuse to raise the ticket prices for his next solo tour...

To be fair, to see a show with two big names of that caliber, and with the show starting at 7:30, so that three hours (or a little bit more including breaks) until
23 h possible) are realistic, is not too expensive if you compare with ticket prices of other show cases in these days. It is just too expensive for me....

And like Fienecke, I better save more money to spend it next year and see MK more than once, and MK pure and alone! With lots of Forumers around!

 ;)

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 16, 2011, 08:33:50 PM
Can anyone confirm, Oberhausen has rows A to H, devided in three blocks (1 - 3), so that means the first 8 rows? Which would be better as the Hamburg pre-sale which offers the first 10 rows? All Oberhausen seating plans I found on the net are not detailed enough to see the exact rows...

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: joanzimm on July 16, 2011, 09:44:00 PM
You are right LE, I read those stupid things too over there...

And some of them are going to Rotterdam :disbelief :disbelief
If they are standing next to me, I think i'm gonna fart as hell :lol

LOL.  I hope a fight doesn't break out in the audience!  Some of the comments over there are so ignorant.  I'm sure MK's fans will be respectful towards BD whether they like him or not.  I just hope the BD fans show MK the same courtesy. :-\
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 16, 2011, 10:00:50 PM
Can anyone confirm, Oberhausen has rows A to H, devided in three blocks (1 - 3), so that means the first 8 rows? Which would be better as the Hamburg pre-sale which offers the first 10 rows? All Oberhausen seating plans I found on the net are not detailed enough to see the exact rows...

LE

Last year there was a detailed seating plan of the konig pilsener arena. Than you could select the seats for booking (at the konig pilsener arena website in the regular sale)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on July 16, 2011, 10:11:04 PM
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Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on July 16, 2011, 10:43:44 PM
How do you find out from the venue which seats have been reserved for the pre-sale?
I rang the venue in Nottingham, and they said they go on general release on Monday at 9.00.
So is there a pre-sale or not? ??? ???
Not sure weather to book through MK site or the venue direct?
I'll just be glad when i've secured them. :)

Cheers  BBB

Btw. I wonder if there will be a Tour Programme, T.Shirts etc..... Either a joint stand or seperate stand.
I'd sure like a BD/MK Tour 2011 T.Shirt :P :P :P
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on July 17, 2011, 02:38:43 AM
About the t-shirt thing. I'd go for something like this:

(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7073/dylanp.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/33/dylanp.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sorry couldn't resist. Kidding of course  8)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 17, 2011, 03:22:17 AM
Very good but dangerous at the venues...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Darling Pretty on July 17, 2011, 09:11:59 AM
Ok, I made my decision. Only one show for me, Oberhausen.  Because two shows means two nights in a hotel, two train tickets... No. I will be happy to go to Oberhausen, it is a Sunday, Monday is my day off, fits perfectly well, so no second show. Sorry, Hamburg, but this time you won't see me. Just too expensive.

I hope Mark will not use this as an excuse to raise the ticket prices for his next solo tour...

To be fair, to see a show with two big names of that caliber, and with the show starting at 7:30, so that three hours (or a little bit more including breaks) until
23 h possible) are realistic, is not too expensive if you compare with ticket prices of other show cases in these days. It is just too expensive for me....



Like me. One show is enough. It is too expensive to see only 75 mns of MK.
U can join us LE. We are a bunch of funny guys goin to Oberhausen.
I can confirm that Oberhausen has 3 rows and they start with row A.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 17, 2011, 09:43:22 AM
Also just 1 for me ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 17, 2011, 11:26:30 AM
Ok, I made my decision. Only one show for me, Oberhausen.  Because two shows means two nights in a hotel, two train tickets... No. I will be happy to go to Oberhausen, it is a Sunday, Monday is my day off, fits perfectly well, so no second show. Sorry, Hamburg, but this time you won't see me. Just too expensive.

I hope Mark will not use this as an excuse to raise the ticket prices for his next solo tour...

To be fair, to see a show with two big names of that caliber, and with the show starting at 7:30, so that three hours (or a little bit more including breaks) until
23 h possible) are realistic, is not too expensive if you compare with ticket prices of other show cases in these days. It is just too expensive for me....



Like me. One show is enough. It is too expensive to see only 75 mns of MK.
U can join us LE. We are a bunch of funny guys goin to Oberhausen.
I can confirm that Oberhausen has 3 rows and they start with row A.

Will do! Cool, will be arriving on sunday afternoon, let's see if can meet somewhere.
There should be some other forumers around at Oberhausen it seems?

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on July 17, 2011, 11:31:08 AM
One show is never enough. We have the full band during 1H-1H30. Dont' know exactly how long ;)
Of course prices are much higher for less MK performance. Not easy in hard times !
I also believe most people, including myself, can't do an Isaac.

I will do Geneva and I'm trying to add 1 or 2 extra shows (my best chances are Glasgow, Berlin and Rome)

 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 17, 2011, 11:34:51 AM
Just one for me too - Manchester.  I think it's one of the few all-seated venues, which I'm pleased about!   No queuing!    ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 17, 2011, 01:14:22 PM
A funny picture just came into my mind of lots of forumers at 9am tomorrow all with their fingers hovering over the button!    :lol
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on July 17, 2011, 01:27:08 PM
think it will be OBerhausen and Antwerp only in the end.
too much negativism from those Dylan wankers.
and i too find the price a bit high for an as of yet uncertain performance quality and content.
so no dublin, and prolly no rotterdam either...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Fieneke2 on July 17, 2011, 02:04:15 PM

You know, I don't like the idea and it even disturbs me that the official Bob Dylan site doesn't talk about Mark and his band participating in the Tour in Europe. In Dutch newspapers I even read that Mark will be the support act!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Waterline Man on July 17, 2011, 02:17:08 PM
The more that this is going on the more I'm getting pissed off with it :-\ :-\
Firstly we have a big announcement from Guy thats leaked all over the internet before he confirms it - every dog on the street knew that it was Bob,the only thing that wasnt known was the venues & dates.
Secondly we are buying over priced tickets for a gig that we dont know how long its going to be,if they will perform as a duo or half a show each & theres nobody telling anyone what the story is.
As I have said previously Bob played here last month & theres no way he sold out the O2,he's also played here nearly every year for the past 4  or 5 & if people didnt pack the place to see him then I cant see them packing in to see half a show either  -BTW  MK didnt sell out the O2 either last year. I feel the fans are being sort of railroaded into buying pre-sale tickets as they feel that know that the diehards will scamper to buy them once they get a sniff of a show but being honest I dont see a major demand here for tickets,well not at that level anyway.
I like so many more have been to MK gigs & i 've thought I was in Madrid or somewhere in Spain such was the amount of Spainards around me at the gig,now dont get me wrong good luck to them but I cant see these guys travelling to as many gigs around Eurpoe his time as they have in the past.Even if you look on this forum,I've met a lot of forum members in the past few years either at gigs in Dublin or the UK & they are going to just one show whereas like myself they would have gone to several ones in the past.
Will I go? Yes. Will I be hovering over my pc for over priced pre-sale tickets in the morning? No.

Rant over ::)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 17, 2011, 02:18:21 PM
About Berlin, after the presale, which site will sell that tickets? My first choice is Glasgow, but I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 17, 2011, 02:19:10 PM
@ Fieneke2:
It all depends on marketing. Someone has to be the bigger one it seems. Mark is named "VERY special guest" on the ads I saw, and that would be ok with me and I am sure with Mark, too. On the other hand, my theory is still that Bob's management needed a drawing card name in Europe to sell more tickets here, and Mark obviously had no reservations against it. In this league, I think it is just a mininal difference. Mark himself would probably always attest that it was a great honour for him to be asked etc..., but someone must have done the maths and has come to think that it will pay off in the end for both of them. I have much confidence in Paul
Crockfords abilities...

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 17, 2011, 03:03:51 PM
I am very uneasy about the whole thing too, especially after reading the comments on the BD forum, where MK is constantly being ridiculed and being called "warm-up act" and "support", not to mention lots worse!   One of my biggest worries is that the BD fans will disrupt MK's performance by coming in throughout his performance and talking, etc, but the BD fans think the same about the MK fans too!   I'm sure most of the BD fans are normal people though and respect both acts, just like us!   :lol

I'm going to the concert because, first and foremost I am an MK fan and I couldn't bear not to be there to support MK and the band and because I also enjoy Bob's songs and the work he and MK  did together in the past and I feel it will be something I would regret not doing.

So, yes, I will be there at the computer at 9am tomorrow, with my finger hovering over the keys!    ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Fletch on July 17, 2011, 03:06:36 PM
I'd hazard a guess that Mark would have no issues with the tag "support act" or "special guest", the same way he has no interest in playing under the tag 'Dire Straits'?

I'm dead keen to fly over and catch a gig or two, if only for the adventure of it. On the other hand, if there are some great soundboard bootlegs, I could just as easily stay at home, lol!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 17, 2011, 03:12:02 PM
I'm going to the concert because, first and foremost I am an MK fan and I couldn't bear not to be there to support MK and the band and because I also enjoy Bob's songs and the work he and MK  did together in the past and I feel it will be something I would regret not doing.

Exactly my thoughts.

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 17, 2011, 03:13:02 PM
"Special Guest" is OK, because that means he has been specially invited by the headline act (Bob), but a support act or warm-up act is just anyone who is on the way up the music ladder and that couldn't possibly apply to MK!  
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 17, 2011, 03:24:21 PM
About Berlin, after the presale, which site will sell that tickets? My first choice is Glasgow, but I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 17, 2011, 03:36:55 PM


eventim.de

Official ticket sale starts on wednesday, 20.07.11, 9:00h german time (cest).

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 17, 2011, 03:46:14 PM


eventim.de

Official ticket sale starts on wednesday, 20.07.11, 9:00h german time (cest).

LE

Thank you Love Expresso, do you know if they send the tickets before the show, if you have to pick them there or if you have both options when you buy it?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on July 17, 2011, 04:20:33 PM


eventim.de

Official ticket sale starts on wednesday, 20.07.11, 9:00h german time (cest).

LE

Thank you Love Expresso, do you know if they send the tickets before the show, if you have to pick them there or if you have both options when you buy it?
if you go to berlin i will consider going too Jbaent...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 17, 2011, 05:54:06 PM


eventim.de

Official ticket sale starts on wednesday, 20.07.11, 9:00h german time (cest).

LE

Thank you Love Expresso, do you know if they send the tickets before the show, if you have to pick them there or if you have both options when you buy it?

Sorry, no. Last few times I used MK.com and had always good experience with it. However, when I bought at eventim last time (Emmylou tour?) I remember that
they indeed send it to you on the postal way within a few days. I do not know if they changed it in the meantime.

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Tally on July 17, 2011, 07:12:35 PM
I would not worry too much about the Dylan fans, in a 10,000 seat-arena, you will hardly notice them among the crowds.

More worrisome is the fact that we do not know whether Bob and Mark will play together. My guess is that if Dylan makes the suggestion, Mark will be glad to accept. But it's probably Dylan's call and I'm not sure we will see them together with this two-band/two-set thing. The risk is that Mark takes his band and gets out of the venue after their performance. Hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: schmonka on July 17, 2011, 08:01:08 PM
I think everyones fears can be summed up in a quote given to us to the good doctor several times on his forum...."Its not our show"....its not looking good :-[
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on July 17, 2011, 08:33:54 PM


eventim.de

Official ticket sale starts on wednesday, 20.07.11, 9:00h german time (cest).

LE

Thank you Love Expresso, do you know if they send the tickets before the show, if you have to pick them there or if you have both options when you buy it?

Sorry, no. Last few times I used MK.com and had always good experience with it. However, when I bought at eventim last time (Emmylou tour?) I remember that
they indeed sent it to you on the postal way within a few days. I do not know if they changed it in the meantime.

LE

I have ordered from eventim.de many times and they always send the tickets the postal way. Jbaent, I was thinking about Berlin too... But I'm still unsure.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: joko on July 17, 2011, 09:10:43 PM
I'll go this time only to one gig ... at Munich. Hope to meet some fans ... though I'm no big fan of BD I feel optimistic that we will get a great show and in the last third some awesome acts jointly by MK / BD ...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 17, 2011, 09:25:40 PM
I'm still going to buy through mk.com, even though Ticketmaster is probably less hassle.

I'm thinking of the next tour - the folks at mk.com decide who gets what seats, just a theory of mine but I reckon they take account of people who have been loyal customers for years. So I'll buy my standing tickets this time in the hope of getting front row again in 2013.

Also, better for MK to get a cut than Ticketmaster.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Jackal on July 17, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
Was thinking about the Berlin show, but 120 euros plus travel and accomodation is too much. I'll just wait for the Blu-ray ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on July 17, 2011, 09:45:23 PM
Was thinking about the Berlin show, but 120 euros plus travel and accomodation is too much. I'll just wait for the Blu-ray ;D


Bwahaha, good one  ;D
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. Because MK is playing with Bob effin' Dylan. That justifies a DVD  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Knopflerfan on July 17, 2011, 10:26:28 PM
Shall be ordering my tickets for the Bournemouth show via MK.COM as per usual, and it clearly says that you will have to pick up the tickets from the venue with valid ID as per the last tour...

Hope to see some 'forumites' in the 'balcony' (MK.COM allocated seats) at the BIC on the 14th October!!!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on July 17, 2011, 11:42:41 PM
I made my decision : Glasgow 8 & 9, Rome and Geneva.  :)
Berlin is not affordable  :disbelief

I probably won't order from MK.com. I like to have tix in my hands, especially when prices are high.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 18, 2011, 01:19:34 AM
Thanks for your answers. I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: sweetsurrender on July 18, 2011, 02:34:18 AM
I understood now how it feels not to be able to attend Mark's concert when he is not playing in your country.  It sucks big time !!! :'(

You guys are all sooooo Lucky.  We here in NA wish we could join in the excitement tomorrow with the presale.  Good Luck to you all !!!  This is indeed a historic tour. 

I hope there  will at least be either a Simfy recording,  DVD or both. :D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 18, 2011, 08:37:29 AM

I may be a crazy one, but I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on July 18, 2011, 09:02:03 AM
got me 2 oberhausen tix for me and Ingrid, and ingrid is getting me one fro Antwerp. done.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 18, 2011, 09:08:47 AM
Oberhausen, one for me. Done!

Now we have to wait 4 to 6 weeks to know which seats...

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Chardonnay on July 18, 2011, 09:10:02 AM
Just ordered 3 Tix for Mannheim, jippiiiieh :lol
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 18, 2011, 09:11:08 AM
Just tried to watch how the selling of Berlin was and I got this message in markknopfler.com

We're sorry, but the product you requested was not found.

Too many people trying to buy or a site failure?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 18, 2011, 09:13:15 AM
It happens the same with ALL the german dates...

May it be a mozilla firefox issue with the site?

Edit: Got the same error page with internet explorer...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Chardonnay on July 18, 2011, 09:17:17 AM
maybe everything is sold out? ::)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 18, 2011, 09:21:47 AM
OK, I think I know...

If you use the TOUR page to buy, you got that error, but if you use the TICKETS page in the store you can access...

A bit tricky in my opinion...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Kay Edvin on July 18, 2011, 09:24:04 AM
Since they are ignoring Norway, I will go to Stockholm, probably together with Jarle.
Anyone else attending the show in Sweden?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on July 18, 2011, 09:26:08 AM
Okay, ordered two tix for Mannheim and - within a momentary lapse of reason - one for Berlin, at 9 o'clock sharp. Now I'm curious which seats I will get.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 18, 2011, 09:30:12 AM

I may be a crazy one, but I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 18, 2011, 09:41:08 AM
Quite exciting. I wonder how long we'll have to queue for - and how do you go to the toilet?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 18, 2011, 09:47:21 AM
Bought 4 tix for Antwerp (1 for Pottel) and he got me one for Oberhausen  :D
Thanks pal!

Dusty, Amsterdam is always GA  and no problem with going to the toilet. People are polite enough to let you go back to your place in the queue. But I suppose we will have early entry again at standing gigs
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 18, 2011, 09:50:32 AM
Thinking of going Ticketmaster, so I have my ticket in advance - if I can't get into the venue beforehand I may lose my place in the queue.


Aaargh! Don't know what to do!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 18, 2011, 09:50:49 AM
Quite exciting. I wonder how long we'll have to queue for - and how do you go to the toilet?

We can arrange something for the queue  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 18, 2011, 09:52:58 AM
Thinking of going Ticketmaster, so I have my ticket in advance - if I can't get into the venue beforehand I may lose my place in the queue.


Aaargh! Don't know what to do!

I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 18, 2011, 09:54:20 AM
Yup, I'm going Ticketmaster too. Also seems to be a bit cheaper.

But don't want to be standing around trying to collect my ticket while others are streaming to the front of the venue...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 18, 2011, 09:55:40 AM
Ok, 5 minutes to go!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 18, 2011, 10:02:10 AM
Done! See you in Glasgow guys!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 18, 2011, 10:04:22 AM
Done!    :D   Manchester!   :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 18, 2011, 10:05:12 AM
Done! now I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 18, 2011, 10:20:36 AM
Just rely on mk.com. Worked out great in Amsterdam last year.
an if you need to sell your ticket you can mail to the management that the name has been changed.
I have had it in London and no problems.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 18, 2011, 10:21:27 AM
Booked Dublin as well. Even faster than Antwerp. Antwerp 32 secs, Dublin 23 sec, so next will be 14 secs I guess  :P
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: joko on July 18, 2011, 10:44:24 AM
booked Munich via german pre-sale ... I could choose my seats (front row) ... and they will send me the tickets next days. BTW, in the moment there are still front row seats available on Oberhausen, Berlin, Mannheim ...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on July 18, 2011, 10:58:21 AM
booked Munich via german pre-sale ... I could choose my seats (front row) ... and they will send me the tickets next days. BTW, in the moment there are still front row seats available on Oberhausen, Berlin, Mannheim ...

Hi! Did you use the 02-presale?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on July 18, 2011, 10:59:30 AM
Yup, I'm going Ticketmaster too. Also seems to be a bit cheaper.

But don't want to be standing around trying to collect my ticket while others are streaming to the front of the venue...

Exactly.  That's why I went to Ticketmaster and bought one for Glasgow on Saturday 8th. standing of course!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: joko on July 18, 2011, 11:33:32 AM
booked Munich via german pre-sale ... I could choose my seats (front row) ... and they will send me the tickets next days. BTW, in the moment there are still front row seats available on Oberhausen, Berlin, Mannheim ...

Hi! Did you use the 02-presale?

yes ...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Jana on July 18, 2011, 11:34:57 AM
2 tickets bought at 9.01 a.m. for Nuremburg (my homecity!!!) through mk.com.

I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on July 18, 2011, 11:49:59 AM
booked Munich via german pre-sale ... I could choose my seats (front row) ... and they will send me the tickets next days. BTW, in the moment there are still front row seats available on Oberhausen, Berlin, Mannheim ...

Hi! Did you use the 02-presale?

yes ...
Ah ok, thanks. This may explain why you could choose your seats while there isn't such a possibility at markknopfler.com, and the eventim sale hasn't even started yet.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 18, 2011, 12:21:47 PM
I asked PC if this means that we have to wait and have the leftovers. Damn I hate this, I am not a O2-client (not possible as a dutch inhabitant) so no way for me to get those tix in hand.
Keep you informed when and if I get an answer. I also asked for the policy about GA-tickets, I asked if there will be an early entry again.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on July 18, 2011, 01:19:44 PM
still no reply from PCM assistant on my earlier message.... :disbelief
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Waterline Man on July 18, 2011, 02:26:31 PM
I'm not trying to be Mr Grumpy :disbelief here or anything  but just for the hell of it I've just been on the mk.com website to see if I could still get a ticket for Dublin in the pre-sale & not alone can I get one but I can get four if I want them for the flat seating in front of the stage - thats 4 hours after the precious pre-sale has begun :o :o As I have said previously I will be going but I feel that the genuine fans are being railroaded into buying overpriced tickets for some gigs that wont be sold out in a month of Sundays - if that was a MK solo gig these tickets would be well gone at his stage.I dont think that MK fans are going to go & pay big money to listen to Bob for half a gig - that is the same Bob that some fans have already shelled out money to see last month - it doesnt make sense to me :o

rant over again :disbelief :disbelief 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on July 18, 2011, 02:42:14 PM
Yeah, it doesn't seem too well thought out, especially MK's role in the whole tour and the pricing policy.  Perhaps if Marks' role in the thing and how the concerts were going to pan out was more clearly maked out to people and the tickets were normail MK prices then they would be selling more tickets.  It's as if PCM were not consulted during the planning of it.

I think it would have been better having one single band with MK playing guitar on Bob's songs like he did on tour with Clapton in the 80's.  They could share then number of tunes they play and mix them up, that will stop any set of fans getting restless.  I think people would be more clear in their minds if they knew that was going to happen, but this is like two seperate gigs pushed together.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Waterline Man on July 18, 2011, 05:47:38 PM
I'm not trying to be Mr Grumpy :disbelief here or anything  but just for the hell of it I've just been on the mk.com website to see if I could still get a ticket for Dublin in the pre-sale & not alone can I get one but I can get four if I want them for the flat seating in front of the stage - thats 4 hours after the precious pre-sale has begun :o :o As I have said previously I will be going but I feel that the genuine fans are being railroaded into buying overpriced tickets for some gigs that wont be sold out in a month of Sundays - if that was a MK solo gig these tickets would be well gone at his stage.I dont think that MK fans are going to go & pay big money to listen to Bob for half a gig - that is the same Bob that some fans have already shelled out money to see last month - it doesnt make sense to me :o

rant over again :disbelief :disbelief 

Just heard the advert on the radio for the 10th time over the past few days & its being advertised here as Bob Dillion,with special guest MK,its actually the same advert that they had for Bobs gigs last month with WOL built in at the end - I know Bob may be MK's hero but the way it looks to me is that its the Bob show with add ons :o
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Darling Pretty on July 18, 2011, 05:57:15 PM
I used the o2 presale.
Very good.
For all german gigs you can get the best seats in the house.
I refused and chose the best seats of the lowest kategorie.
EUR 50 difference. A lot.

But you can better choose this option than the Mk.com one I think.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 18, 2011, 07:03:08 PM
I decided to get angry when I have received my seat numbers, not before. Who knows, why should I not be in the first (or second, don't mind) row? MK.com guarantees the first 8 rows in the first three blocks in Oberhausen f.e., and I was very early. So let's wait and see. And I don't know if it counts or if it quite naive but I wrote them a message that I'd like to have a seat in block 2, first row. When I did it last time, it worked our very precisely. Maybe customers that utter their wishes will have chances compared to the folks that do not.

@Waterline Man: I think it is not surprising that there are still Flat seats available. But I reckon that the sequence of the orders is important, too, and that the Canadians will work it out  the next days. So why shouldn't you get lucky and have a nice front row seat for Dublin? I think the chances are good.
Of course it is much more comfortable the way Steinei did it with exact seat numbers. He will not be eager to get the message, he already knows where his seat is.

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on July 18, 2011, 07:42:14 PM
I wonder how they start distributing the seats... For example, when I order at 9 o'clock sharp, do I get Row 1, Seat 1, or do I get the best one available, i.e. dead center front row?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 18, 2011, 07:56:27 PM
This is the answer of PC to my questions:

Regarding first row:
We have a limited amount of tickets this time as we are not the headline act. There will be some row one but not everybody will be able to have them.

Regarding General Admission:
There will be a separate early access as usual.

That was the mail from PC

Now let's cross fingers!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 18, 2011, 08:04:21 PM
I wonder how they start distributing the seats... For example, when I order at 9 o'clock sharp, do I get Row 1, Seat 1, or do I get the best one available, i.e. dead center front row?

Yes I wondered that too GH!   I ordered on the dot of 9am (same as usual).   Last year I had the same seat in three different venues - Row 1, just to right of centre.  Perfect!   I hope I am as lucky this time! :)

EDIT:   Just noticed that both Manchester and Nottingham are sold out of MK.Com tickets!


Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 18, 2011, 08:51:14 PM
Early access general admission? Oops.

Did mk.com buyers get in early in Amsterdam?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 18, 2011, 09:46:47 PM
Early access general admission? Oops.

Did mk.com buyers get in early in Amsterdam?

Yes, last year
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 18, 2011, 09:50:43 PM
Dusty, this is what I found at Isaac's tour blog from June 28/29 2010 in the HMH Amsterdam:

markknopfler.com ticket buyers were given the right to enter the venue 15 minutes prior to the general public, hence our late arrival time. Of course, though, we were not first; a few people were already lined?up by the markknopfler.com ticketholders
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 18, 2011, 09:55:59 PM
Crap, wish someone had mentioned this.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Fieneke2 on July 18, 2011, 10:17:06 PM
Quote myself see my message july 16-2011 in this topic:

"About pre-sale: Last year I bought the tickets for Brighton at the MK official site and everything was well arranged when we went to the venue in the evening! I bought the Amsterdam tickets through Eventim, because I also thought when I can
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 18, 2011, 11:01:38 PM
Early access general admission? Oops.

Did mk.com buyers get in early in Amsterdam?

Same in Antwerp, early access. Really relaxed.
In Amsterdam MK signed my i-Phone because I didn't have to queue early like other years  :D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 18, 2011, 11:44:32 PM
Aaah, thining of buying an mk.com ticket, and flogging the Ticketmaster ticket...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 19, 2011, 12:27:05 AM
Aaah, thining of buying an mk.com ticket, and flogging the Ticketmaster ticket...

Its true, I forgot that happened last tour with general admission tickets, but I still preffer to have the tickets in my hand before the show and entering after the people who ordered their tickets with mk.com than having to wait to pick the tickets at the box office.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on July 19, 2011, 10:09:40 AM
but we were allowed into the venue before all the rest (with the GA shows.)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 19, 2011, 10:18:47 AM
Presale for malmo and goteborg @ 4 august. Still no news about Rotterdam :-\

450-900 KR, around 97 euro max.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: guitarbrother on July 19, 2011, 10:26:33 AM
long time no post but always a pleasure to read.
i just bought two ticktes at a big local newspaper (waz). they offer a one day presale. i got two ticktes for oberhausen (second row nearly middel). i will decied after the concert whether i go to hannover aswell.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 19, 2011, 11:00:10 AM
Aaah, thining of buying an mk.com ticket, and flogging the Ticketmaster ticket...

Its true, I forgot that happened last tour with general admission tickets, but I still preffer to have the tickets in my hand before the show and entering after the people who ordered their tickets with mk.com than having to wait to pick the tickets at the box office.

Yeah, fair enough, I look forward to queuing up with you. I'll get to the front, I have sharp elbows!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: JeroenvG on July 19, 2011, 11:27:39 AM
Tickets for Rotterdam going on sale this friday. Proces are from 60.50 to 82.50

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on July 19, 2011, 11:36:42 AM
Aaah, thining of buying an mk.com ticket, and flogging the Ticketmaster ticket...

Its true, I forgot that happened last tour with general admission tickets, but I still preffer to have the tickets in my hand before the show and entering after the people who ordered their tickets with mk.com than having to wait to pick the tickets at the box office.

Yeah, fair enough, I look forward to queuing up with you. I'll get to the front, I have sharp elbows!

We can all queue up outside in the rain (probably).  I bought mine on Ticketmaster too thinking I would get to the front.  Ha-ha. :-\
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 19, 2011, 02:17:15 PM
We can made shifts at the queue  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: boboDS on July 19, 2011, 07:38:06 PM
Is anybody going to Glasgow on 9th?
Because I'm seriously thinking of flying over, but don't know if I can make it on 8th.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Rolleyway Man on July 19, 2011, 08:54:46 PM
Got my balcony tickets for Bournemouth on MK.com yesterday, 9:00AM on the dot.  Looking forward to this one.  I'd love to be closer to the action on the ground but I have no desire to stand up for three hours or more!  I may only be 25ish  but I am not 25ish in terms of my fitness  ;D.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 19, 2011, 09:35:43 PM
Not particular interesting maybe, but on Dylan.com they at least mention Mark now on the touring page. (Mark Knopfler an band will perform at all  shows in Europe.)

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on July 19, 2011, 09:57:19 PM
also, on expecting rain there is now also a nice "get to know" kind of "mark knopfler" thread, with a lot of "nice" people posting, and no obnoxious twats posting
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 19, 2011, 10:16:09 PM
Pottel, would you mind telling me where exactly I can find it or what's the name of that thread? I had a look but couldn't find it... Lots of traffic over there, much threads and forums... not too interesting stuff however...

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 19, 2011, 10:22:52 PM
For those who want to attend the Rotterdam show:

Just received an e-mail from TK via Mark-Knopfler-New.co.uk newsletter:

Advanced notification: The next show to go on presale at www.markknopfler.com will be Rotterdam. This presale is likely to commence sometime tomorrow so be alert !


It is still on TBA modus at markknopfler.com.

I thought maybe some forumers might be interested.  ;)

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 19, 2011, 10:40:12 PM
For those who want to attend the Rotterdam show:

Just received an e-mail from TK via Mark-Knopfler-New.co.uk newsletter:

Advanced notification: The next show to go on presale at www.markknopfler.com will be Rotterdam. This presale is likely to commence sometime tomorrow so be alert !


It is still on TBA modus at markknopfler.com.

I thought maybe some forumers might be interested.  ;)

LE

Whoops, tomorrow?

I'm going to Rotterdam, i had expected friday 10.00, like the normal sale on livenation.nl. I'll be alert!!
Thanks!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 19, 2011, 10:47:25 PM
You're welcome!  :)  Are you going to Oberhausen, too? We could meet, seems a lot of forumers are at Oberhausen?

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 19, 2011, 10:50:41 PM
For those who want to attend the Rotterdam show:

Just received an e-mail from TK via Mark-Knopfler-New.co.uk newsletter:

Advanced notification: The next show to go on presale at www.markknopfler.com will be Rotterdam. This presale is likely to commence sometime tomorrow so be alert !


It is still on TBA modus at markknopfler.com.

I thought maybe some forumers might be interested.  ;)

LE

Whoops, tomorrow?

I'm going to Rotterdam, i had expected friday 10.00, like the normal sale on livenation.nl. I'll be alert!!
Thanks!

EDIT:

I had the mail too, updated my creditcard things on markknopfler.com ;) I'm ready for it!!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on July 19, 2011, 10:57:43 PM
Thanks to my fellow Knopfler friend Jane from Norwich
for getting me tix for Nottingham. I was in Amsterdam
on Monday taking my wife to see Take That, so was nowhere
near a computer to book.
I also met up with Ingrid on Monday night.
We had a fantastic meal & drinks!!!
Anyone else going to Nottingham???

Cheers. BBB
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 19, 2011, 11:03:20 PM
You're welcome!  :)  Are you going to Oberhausen, too? We could meet, seems a lot of forumers are at Oberhausen?

LE

No, not this time. Way too expensive for me ;), I will do just 1 show. Last year i did oberhausen and met a lot of forum members (very nice ;))
Next time, MK solo, i think i will do oberhausen again. Maybe we can meet then? :)

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 19, 2011, 11:11:12 PM
I will also only do one show for the same reason! I am looking forward very much to it, it is indeed growing expectations in the last few days...
That's so great about this whole Bob Dylan stuff: It is really like a big bonus! The "real" tour is also in my mind for next year to come - and the Bob Show is just a Cookie Candy Sweetie dessert add-on!  - so totally unexpected and really nice!

I never attended a show in Oberhausen. Let's see if I will have some good impressions to take home with me so that I can take it onto my list for 2012! It is very easy for me to reach by train - a 2h20min ride without changing trains. So I probably will meet you there next time I'm in town!  8)
 

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on July 19, 2011, 11:58:00 PM
Is anybody going to Glasgow on 9th?
Because I'm seriously thinking of flying over, but don't know if I can make it on 8th.
I'll be in Glasgow on 8th and 9th.  :)
I 've bought tickets from Ticketmaster.
No MK.com presale this time.  :-\

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: boboDS on July 20, 2011, 12:42:55 PM
Is anybody going to Glasgow on 9th?
Because I'm seriously thinking of flying over, but don't know if I can make it on 8th.
I'll be in Glasgow on 8th and 9th.  :)
I 've bought tickets from Ticketmaster.
No MK.com presale this time.  :-\


Well, I'm still working on some things, but hopefully I'll be able to make it to one of the shows. I'll do mk.com probably, since there is supposed to be a 'sooner' entry.

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on July 20, 2011, 12:48:56 PM
Is anybody going to Glasgow on 9th?
Because I'm seriously thinking of flying over, but don't know if I can make it on 8th.
I'll be in Glasgow on 8th and 9th.  :)
I 've bought tickets from Ticketmaster.
No MK.com presale this time.  :-\


Well, I'm still working on some things, but hopefully I'll be able to make it to one of the shows. I'll do mk.com probably, since there is supposed to be a 'sooner' entry.



Or you can stand outside in the rain with the numpties! ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: boboDS on July 20, 2011, 02:58:30 PM
Is anybody going to Glasgow on 9th?
Because I'm seriously thinking of flying over, but don't know if I can make it on 8th.
I'll be in Glasgow on 8th and 9th.  :)
I 've bought tickets from Ticketmaster.
No MK.com presale this time.  :-\




Well, I'm still working on some things, but hopefully I'll be able to make it to one of the shows. I'll do mk.com probably, since there is supposed to be a 'sooner' entry.



Or you can stand outside in the rain with the numpties! ;D


what an irresistible offer :)
(had to look up 'numpty' in the dictionary, looks like a word common for Scotts, innit?)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on July 20, 2011, 03:15:41 PM
A "numpty" is just a word for a stupid person.  The word is mostly used in the west of Scotland (Glasgow area).
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 20, 2011, 03:27:52 PM
Rotterdam is GA at front! I read that at the Dylan forum. They have mailed Ahoy.
So, i'm going to order by presale at Markknopfler.com. That means ........... ;D
I hope those Dylan f*** don't know that ;) And they don't read this, right? :P

Better remove it then Dutchessy
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 20, 2011, 03:42:46 PM
Rotterdam is GA at front! I read that at the Dylan forum. They have mailed Ahoy.
So, i'm going to order by presale at Markknopfler.com. That means ........... ;D
I hope those Dylan f*** don't know that ;) And they don't read this, right? :P

Better remove it then Dutchessy

yeah, true...

done
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 20, 2011, 04:04:57 PM
 ;D ;D ;D great Dutchessy
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 20, 2011, 06:18:54 PM
NU PRESALE ROTTERDAM
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: boboDS on July 20, 2011, 08:00:15 PM
Need help people - I mean those of you who know the Glasgow venue.
I don't know which tix to get, general admission or block rows A-G (whatever that means, couldn't find layout for this show)? I mean where is the standing area located? Is it too far at back? Where can you see better from?

Was originally going for general admission, but now I'm not sure.
Thx.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 20, 2011, 08:10:12 PM
NU PRESALE ROTTERDAM

Got 2 tickets :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on July 20, 2011, 08:27:53 PM
Need help people - I mean those of you who know the Glasgow venue.
I don't know which tix to get, general admission or block rows A-G (whatever that means, couldn't find layout for this show)? I mean where is the standing area located? Is it too far at back? Where can you see better from?

Was originally going for general admission, but now I'm not sure.
Thx.

I'm going to Glasgow on the 8th and have GA tickets but even although I live just 40 miles from the venue I'm not familiar with it or indeed that area of Glasgow at all.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Camerado on July 20, 2011, 08:47:42 PM
NU PRESALE ROTTERDAM

Got 2 tickets :)

Good job!   :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Titi on July 20, 2011, 08:49:46 PM
Still waiting for french presale...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Fieneke2 on July 20, 2011, 09:30:34 PM
NU PRESALE ROTTERDAM

Got 2 tickets :)

Congrats to you, Ingrid and all the others who were able to buy the tickets!

I also got a mail from Terry and it is great that MK fans are able to buy the tickets in pre-sale, while other people who are not a member have to wait till Friday 10.00am!

As I told before we won't be able to attend this concert, BUT.....with reading all the news about Mark and these messages of the fans, you can be sure that you all are in my thoughts! ;)

Fieneke
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 20, 2011, 09:35:02 PM
NU PRESALE ROTTERDAM

Got 2 tickets :)

Good job!   :)

Yeah, 1 for you ;) 1 for me...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: knopflerized on July 21, 2011, 07:19:03 AM
Still waiting for french presale...
Could be anytime now...when you see how it happends with Rotterdam.... that scares me ! Can't book at work !
:'(
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 21, 2011, 09:59:31 AM
Stay tuned then, and for sure you will find someone to help you with tickets!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: boboDS on July 21, 2011, 10:02:38 AM
Need help people - I mean those of you who know the Glasgow venue.
I don't know which tix to get, general admission or block rows A-G (whatever that means, couldn't find layout for this show)? I mean where is the standing area located? Is it too far at back? Where can you see better from?

Was originally going for general admission, but now I'm not sure.
Thx.

I'm going to Glasgow on the 8th and have GA tickets but even although I live just 40 miles from the venue I'm not familiar with it or indeed that area of Glasgow at all.

I see. Thanks for the reply anyway. Will probably go on the 8th too.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 21, 2011, 10:08:47 AM
Still waiting for french presale...
Could be anytime now...when you see how it happends with Rotterdam.... that scares me ! Can't book at work !
:'(

I did it with my mobile phone...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ingridswing on July 21, 2011, 10:23:07 AM
Still waiting for french presale...
Could be anytime now...when you see how it happends with Rotterdam.... that scares me ! Can't book at work !
:'(

Don't worry Knopflerized, you know we have an appointment  ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: JeroenvG on July 22, 2011, 12:03:49 PM
Well first I wasn't sure about attending any concert this time. But then my brother in Law called me to go with him.
So I will be in Rotterdam and tickets are in the pocket!

Hope there are many fans (friends) to save us a spot in the front!

Greetings.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Titi on July 22, 2011, 08:47:12 PM
Stange...
No spanish date ?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on July 22, 2011, 09:14:55 PM
Stange...
No spanish date ?

Nope..

Latest news:

The next MK-Dylan presales on www.markknopfler.com will be Lille, Paris, Geneva and Zurich. These presales are likely to start tomorrow (23rd July) morning around 9 am CEST so be sharp.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: shangri la 1 on July 24, 2011, 12:34:32 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/197542.html
This, and similar reports from the US leg may explain why BD asked MK to tour with him in Europe?
We hear similar mixed feelings from our MK fans, and both artists are at similar stages in their careers but I can't ever remember reading a review where fans walked out from any of MK's concerts.
Liked the "Basil Fawlty" line from the Journo! How about that ticket price also US$193.20!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 24, 2011, 12:03:12 PM
One of the best articles I read for a long time. Apart from lots of true lines about Dylan, this piece is also good to deafen every set list question about Mark Knopfler or doubt his live quality for ever.

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on July 25, 2011, 07:16:08 AM
did i mention Things have changed is a brilliant song? :lol
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Fletch on July 25, 2011, 08:37:07 AM
Bob played the Byron Bay blues festival in Australia in April and many, many people rang in on the radio to say how his voice was gone and how they'd only realize which song was which at the end of them....

Of course a lot of these people are latte sipping tree huggers who haven't heard Bob since 1965. Bob is a gnarled old grizzly bluesman these days and he's doesnt (and never has) care about critical reaction.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on July 25, 2011, 02:41:45 PM
Bob played the Byron Bay blues festival in Australia in April and many, many people rang in on the radio to say how his voice was gone and how they'd only realize which song was which at the end of them....

Of course a lot of these people are latte sipping tree huggers who haven't heard Bob since 1965. Bob is a gnarled old grizzly bluesman these days and he's doesnt (and never has) care about critical reaction.
lol, hilarious.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 25, 2011, 03:40:37 PM
I was just reading some reviews on the Expecting Rain forum from two weekend shows - Thackerville and Texas.   They were very positive and said they were the best  for years and that Bob's voice was very good!   Here's hoping!   ;)     
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 25, 2011, 06:40:15 PM
Just imagine what they will write when they have heard MK in concert!!!!  :o :o :o
New dimensions in sound, voice and bliss...

 ;D

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 25, 2011, 08:31:10 PM
Just imagine what they will write when they have heard MK in concert!!!!  :o :o :o
New dimensions in sound, voice and bliss...

 ;D

LE

From what I have read on that forum, they wouldn't admit it, even if they thought MK was the best thing they ever heard!   They seem a very blinkered bunch!    ::)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jabbathehut on July 26, 2011, 02:24:00 AM
Says on Bob's site that more dates will be announced.Hopefully a London date or 2 as i can't justify the expense for what is half an MK show of which I will probably have heard at least half the set live before.Also says there will be a VIP package-Surely this goes against what Bob stands for or is he doing shows at 70 because he needs the money!!!!.No blame can be attached to MK as its not his tour as Guy insists.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 26, 2011, 10:09:23 AM
Says on Bob's site that more dates will be announced.Hopefully a London date or 2 as i can't justify the expense for what is half an MK show of which I will probably have heard at least half the set live before.Also says there will be a VIP package-Surely this goes against what Bob stands for or is he doing shows at 70 because he needs the money!!!!.No blame can be attached to MK as its not his tour as Guy insists.

Now you know how the rest of us feel, scattered around the UK and Europe, when MK does his promo/charity gigs in London only!  I don't know exactly where you live, but I am travelling from Leeds to Manchester on a National bus for
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on July 26, 2011, 10:40:24 AM
Says on Bob's site that more dates will be announced.Hopefully a London date or 2 as i can't justify the expense for what is half an MK show of which I will probably have heard at least half the set live before.Also says there will be a VIP package-Surely this goes against what Bob stands for or is he doing shows at 70 because he needs the money!!!!.No blame can be attached to MK as its not his tour as Guy insists.

Now you know how the rest of us feel, scattered around the UK and Europe, when MK does his promo/charity gigs in London only!  I don't know exactly where you live, but I am travelling to Manchester on a National bus for
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 27, 2011, 02:06:55 PM
A small taste of what might be in store for us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y91sd9Nv7Fo

From a couple of days ago!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Rollergirl on July 27, 2011, 02:47:01 PM
A small taste of what might be in store for us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y91sd9Nv7Fo

From a couple of days ago!

I can live with that. His voice sounds like he's swallowed a cat or some other furry animal but the band sounds good and they're nicely dressed with nice hats. I like a band who make an effort in the wardrobe department.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: marky49 on July 27, 2011, 03:29:51 PM
A small taste of what might be in store for us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y91sd9Nv7Fo

From a couple of days ago!

I can live with that. His voice sounds like he's swallowed a cat or some other furry animal but the band sounds good and they're nicely dressed with nice hats. I like a band who make an effort in the wardrobe department.

Compared to Bob's voice MK will shine like an opera singer!  :D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Tally on July 27, 2011, 04:17:58 PM
What bugs me out is that Dylan sometimes slaughters his own melodies by ending the vocal lines oddly. As some may remember, he did his 'up-singing' at the end of every line for a few years and it was horrible. This clip is something of a reminder.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on July 27, 2011, 05:14:15 PM
My god, he does sound rough now,
but in a good way, if you know what I mean.
He's still a legend in my eyes though, & the
thought of seeing him live for the very first time
Is very exciting!!!
With the massive bonus of seeing MK too!!!
I own all of Dylans cds, & I must admit that I don't
always listen to his very early music quite so much,
but I was listening to 'The Freewheelin' album
today. Absolutely amazing. Especially the song
'Girl from the north country'

Cheers. BBB
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 27, 2011, 07:42:45 PM
From the Expecting Rain forum:


To all those going to Glasgow with hopes of queuing all day to get to the barrier and be right at the very front...

Don't bother, you won't get there.

Ticketmaster are now selling "VIP" tickets, which includes:

BOB DYLAN AND HIS BAND WITH MARK KNOPFLER VIP PACKAGE

General Admission Standing ticket with Early Entry
Exclusive tour merchandise gift
Collectible laminate
Tickets despatched before the show

How much, I hear you cry?

With delivery, and service charge...

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Rollergirl on July 27, 2011, 08:23:19 PM
Doesn't sound like great value for money...

I'll buy a Tshirt separately... by the way, I wonder if they gonna have joint merchandise...


( is it me or are they blaming MK for everything over there? High ticket prices, no London show and now this, there is always one  to mention that's got to be because of MK, we don't do that here, do we? I haven't seen any comments like this on AMIT (or maybe I didn't notice them because they didn't "hurt" so much)

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 27, 2011, 08:26:10 PM
Yes, I think they do blame MK for everything, but I looked at the Bob Dylan website and they do have VIP tickets there too!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Rollergirl on July 27, 2011, 08:27:55 PM
Yes, I think they do blame MK for everything, but I looked at the Bob Dylan website and they do have VIP tickets there too!

not all of them of course but there is always one to write something like that...

did he have VIP tix on previous tours? Did MK ever have them for that matter?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on July 27, 2011, 08:36:47 PM
A small taste of what might be in store for us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y91sd9Nv7Fo

From a couple of days ago!

I'll bring some rotten tomatoes to Mannheim and Berlin  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 27, 2011, 08:39:29 PM
As far as I know, we only have the MK.com presale tickets.   It's called VIP access, which entitles us to special offers, etc.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on July 27, 2011, 10:41:14 PM
Yes, I think they do blame MK for everything, but I looked at the Bob Dylan website and they do have VIP tickets there too!

not all of them of course but there is always one to write something like that...

did he have VIP tix on previous tours? Did MK ever have them for that matter?

The RAH has boxes of course and one could say that the MK reserved seating is kind of the same thing.  However, it would have been good to know this before people went and bought their tickets and they would then have had an option.  On the other hand it's not such a great advantage in a GA arrangement anyway.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ds1984 on July 27, 2011, 10:51:03 PM
I guess that those who used the MK.com presale will have the same early entry privilege as BD VIP package purchasers.
Just my opinion but last tour most of time MK management did succeed getting it that way for us.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 28, 2011, 12:43:44 AM
A small taste of what might be in store for us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y91sd9Nv7Fo

From a couple of days ago!

Bob Dylan sings as he has someone (or something) squeezing his testicles...

My God, I saw him in 1999 and his voice was terrible but, after listen to this, my God... he sung like angels in 1999. Can we even say what he does is sing? Really?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Al on July 28, 2011, 04:54:11 AM
Or it could be something like this: http://youtu.be/gPYvz9QEqUI  Mumfords, Avetts & The Bob playing "Maggie's farm" at the end.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 28, 2011, 10:03:29 AM
Cool!

I love Mumford & Sons, but Bob Dylan is really great on this one! Never saw that. Thanks!

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on July 28, 2011, 10:07:20 AM
A small taste of what might be in store for us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y91sd9Nv7Fo

From a couple of days ago!

I do like rough voices, but that isn't exactly my cuppa to be honest.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on July 28, 2011, 10:21:44 AM
fellas, whocha moaning about?
the guy's seventy, so yes, his voice is a bit scratchy, but listen to his early 1990 performances, those were simply terrible, i think this band is so well oiled, and gifted, and the songs are brilliant (Things have changed is on replay for the past two days, as in, continiously) i don't care, the music rocks, and this new arrangement for Things have changed is awesome, here Mannheim germany, bad vid but decent sound and a ,imho, great performance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcfhbfX_t4o
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on July 28, 2011, 10:31:08 AM
Yepp, his band is great! Anyway, here is a decent performance from 1993:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG85gDjMnlY

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 28, 2011, 10:46:03 AM
I know is playing dirty but I won
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 28, 2011, 10:47:43 AM
The band is OK, but, I'm sorry, it's just not in the same league as MK's band!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 28, 2011, 10:49:44 AM
Leon Russell and Bob Dylan tour started at the US...

Guess what...

Leon Russell is the opening act, then Dylan plays his set and, thats all folks.

I hope thats not the case with Mark Knopfler, I dont know if I would resist a whole Dylan set grumbling songs for nothing  >:( I already saw Dylan once in 1999 and since then Dylan came here about three times and I didnt care to go anymore, no reason, I can even sing his songs better, and I can
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Rollergirl on July 28, 2011, 10:58:15 AM
fellas, whocha moaning about?
the guy's seventy, so yes, his voice is a bit scratchy, but listen to his early 1990 performances, those were simply terrible, i think this band is so well oiled, and gifted, and the songs are brilliant (Things have changed is on replay for the past two days, as in, continiously) i don't care, the music rocks, and this new arrangement for Things have changed is awesome, here Mannheim germany, bad vid but decent sound and a ,imho, great performance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcfhbfX_t4o

Age has nothing to do with it. I know a bunch of 70 years old who sing better than that. This sounds like my grandfather (RIP) just before he died at the age of 96, after 70 years of smoking.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: marky49 on July 28, 2011, 11:03:16 AM
fellas, whocha moaning about?
the guy's seventy, so yes, his voice is a bit scratchy, but listen to his early 1990 performances, those were simply terrible, i think this band is so well oiled, and gifted, and the songs are brilliant (Things have changed is on replay for the past two days, as in, continiously) i don't care, the music rocks, and this new arrangement for Things have changed is awesome, here Mannheim germany, bad vid but decent sound and a ,imho, great performance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcfhbfX_t4o


You've gotta be kidding, Pottel!
Just to remind you, EC is 66 years old. Check this out www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8JFwChOA74
The voice gets deeper with age but that's absolutely ok. Btw, that BD performance was in Mainz, wasn't it?

And Yusuf aka Cat Stevens, 63 years old sings 'Trouble' www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6BfP4e9m3Y. What a voice live! (And to answer your question: I've recorded all 7 European shows of him from Stockholm to Brussels)

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on July 28, 2011, 11:07:37 AM
I've got a video recording of an "Unplugged" programme from 1994 and I really love it and I have been watching it a lot lately, for obvious reasons.  BD's voice was really very listenable and the band was great - much better than any of the recent recordings I have seen lately.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on July 28, 2011, 11:12:42 AM
Somehow the 2011 BD performances keep reminding me of Tom Waits:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IxrskrY9gs
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on July 28, 2011, 11:15:05 AM
fellas, whocha moaning about?
the guy's seventy, so yes, his voice is a bit scratchy, but listen to his early 1990 performances, those were simply terrible, i think this band is so well oiled, and gifted, and the songs are brilliant (Things have changed is on replay for the past two days, as in, continiously) i don't care, the music rocks, and this new arrangement for Things have changed is awesome, here Mannheim germany, bad vid but decent sound and a ,imho, great performance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcfhbfX_t4o


You've gotta be kidding, Pottel!
Just to remind you, EC is 66 years old. Check this out www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8JFwChOA74
The voice gets deeper with age but that's absolutely ok. Btw, that BD performance was in Mainz, wasn't it?



This one's great (Tribute to Gary Moore - Still Got The Blues):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvHGh9qOb_I&feature=related
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: marky49 on July 28, 2011, 11:24:33 AM
fellas, whocha moaning about?
the guy's seventy, so yes, his voice is a bit scratchy, but listen to his early 1990 performances, those were simply terrible, i think this band is so well oiled, and gifted, and the songs are brilliant (Things have changed is on replay for the past two days, as in, continiously) i don't care, the music rocks, and this new arrangement for Things have changed is awesome, here Mannheim germany, bad vid but decent sound and a ,imho, great performance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcfhbfX_t4o


You've gotta be kidding, Pottel!
Just to remind you, EC is 66 years old. Check this out www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8JFwChOA74
The voice gets deeper with age but that's absolutely ok. Btw, that BD performance was in Mainz, wasn't it?



This one's great (Tribute to Gary Moore - Still Got The Blues):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvHGh9qOb_I&feature=related

Right, and I was there all nights...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on July 28, 2011, 03:39:09 PM
yes it was in Mainz.
tastes differ. the voice these days does not bother me, i kinda like it even, imagine.
so lemme repeat,....tastes differ.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 28, 2011, 05:45:07 PM
Not a very bad perfomance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg7QQR30PX0
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on July 28, 2011, 08:55:33 PM
Not a very bad perfomance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg7QQR30PX0
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 29, 2011, 11:29:41 PM
No matter how hard we try, its not easy to be as rude as our raining fellows  ;D

Despite the growning, I think I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ds1984 on July 30, 2011, 08:07:45 PM
Remembering EC/BD duet on Clapton and friends DVD or Tom Petty in 86, for my part I am not certain that witnessing Mark with Bob would be that enjoyable. Knowing that it would not happen would let me the opportunity to leave the venue at anytime if I find Bob set too much annoying.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on July 31, 2011, 06:38:16 PM
As days goes by by excitement about this double-header show is decreasing and decreasing...

Not only that but also talked with a friend who went to Glasgow on august last year and told me it was very very cold, almost like a standard winter day in where we live (Valencia, East Coast of Spain) so I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on July 31, 2011, 07:23:57 PM
Funny enough, my anticipation for this double header thing is growing and growing indeed! It is just to see Mark and the (new) band! Who would have thought that at the first few weeks after the tour, when we were discussing about the meaning of Guy's last diary entry and if we will ever see MK again...
And this "mini" tour (only 30 dates, something that MK handles easily at any time!  ;) ) is so to say a "dress rehearsal" for the next "real" tour..
plus the chance to maybe hear one or two tracks of the new album - before they are released officially...

Try to see it as a big surprising bonus! And if you don't like Bob Dylan's set, then at least you can say "Blimey, at least they have the heater on at this venue"...  :lol :lol

LE

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on August 01, 2011, 11:02:32 AM
As days goes by by excitement about this double-header show is decreasing and decreasing...

Not only that but also talked with a friend who went to Glasgow on august last year and told me it was very very cold, almost like a standard winter day in where we live (Valencia, East Coast of Spain) so I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Rollergirl on August 01, 2011, 11:16:23 AM

I was in Glasgow three times in the last 10 days (!) and it was beautiful very warm and sunny weather.  

by that he means it was not raining and the temperature was around 19 to 20C. That's what we call very warm and sunny over here too, but by Spanish standards, it's winter time!  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on August 01, 2011, 11:22:27 AM

I was in Glasgow three times in the last 10 days (!) and it was beautiful very warm and sunny weather.  

by that he means it was not raining and the temperature was around 19 to 20C. That's what we call very warm and sunny over here too, but by Spanish standards, it's winter time!  ;D

We call it a heatwave! :lol
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 01, 2011, 12:34:35 PM
Its true, 19 or 20 degrees is like autum here, summer here is between 35 and 42, usually 38 in ny town with high humidity.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: sak4 on August 01, 2011, 12:58:12 PM
fellas, whocha moaning about?
the guy's seventy, so yes, his voice is a bit scratchy, but listen to his early 1990 performances, those were simply terrible, i think this band is so well oiled, and gifted, and the songs are brilliant (Things have changed is on replay for the past two days, as in, continiously) i don't care, the music rocks, and this new arrangement for Things have changed is awesome, here Mannheim germany, bad vid but decent sound and a ,imho, great performance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcfhbfX_t4o


You've gotta be kidding, Pottel!
Just to remind you, EC is 66 years old. Check this out www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8JFwChOA74
The voice gets deeper with age but that's absolutely ok. Btw, that BD performance was in Mainz, wasn't it?

And Yusuf aka Cat Stevens, 63 years old sings 'Trouble' www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6BfP4e9m3Y. What a voice live! (And to answer your question: I've recorded all 7 European shows of him from Stockholm to Brussels)






John Mayall is still playing and he's over 70!  Joe Brown is 70 and still going strong, Paul Simon 70 thyis year, all good
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on August 01, 2011, 01:40:50 PM
fellas, whocha moaning about?
the guy's seventy, so yes, his voice is a bit scratchy, but listen to his early 1990 performances, those were simply terrible, i think this band is so well oiled, and gifted, and the songs are brilliant (Things have changed is on replay for the past two days, as in, continiously) i don't care, the music rocks, and this new arrangement for Things have changed is awesome, here Mannheim germany, bad vid but decent sound and a ,imho, great performance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcfhbfX_t4o


You've gotta be kidding, Pottel!
Just to remind you, EC is 66 years old. Check this out www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8JFwChOA74
The voice gets deeper with age but that's absolutely ok. Btw, that BD performance was in Mainz, wasn't it?

And Yusuf aka Cat Stevens, 63 years old sings 'Trouble' www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6BfP4e9m3Y. What a voice live! (And to answer your question: I've recorded all 7 European shows of him from Stockholm to Brussels)






John Mayall is still playing and he's over 70!  Joe Brown is 70 and still going strong, Paul Simon 70 thyis year, all good
ok, do we have 'm all now? did we not forget good ole Buddy Guy (brilliant force of nature when it comes down to performing) and BB King??
i got the point folks.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on August 01, 2011, 03:52:44 PM
I was just reading the Expecting Rain forum and they say that Leon Russell performed for under 50 mins!   The stage was then rearranged, which took 35 mins and BD performed for the rest of the time - around 90 mins and the show ended at 11pm.   I hope MK does more than 50 mins!  ::)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: schmonka on August 01, 2011, 04:13:36 PM
Im really starting to wonder why MK would interupt his album schedule and partake in a tour like this....it just doesnt seem to make sense....it certainly sounds like MK is the "warm up act"....why not just carry on - finish the album and have a full blown tour in 2012.... :disbelief
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on August 01, 2011, 04:14:22 PM
I was just reading the Expecting Rain forum and they say that Leon Russell performed for under 50 mins!   The stage was then rearranged, which took 35 mins and BD performed for the rest of the time - around 90 mins and the show ended at 11pm.   I hope MK does more than 50 mins!  ::)

Bad news  :(
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dannyjun on August 01, 2011, 04:31:43 PM
I also hope he will play more than 50 minutes, and I also still believe so  :) Is there any official site which marks MK as support act? And, if Mark would be only support act, why would we get all those emails from MKnews and MK.com and why would the MK.com site do the presale?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: schmonka on August 01, 2011, 05:25:57 PM
I also hope he will play more than 50 minutes, and I also still believe so  :) Is there any official site which marks MK as support act? And, if Mark would be only support act, why would we get all those emails from MKnews and MK.com and why would the MK.com site do the presale?

I havent come across anything that says MK is officially the warm up act - but its just a sense of what the tour will look like...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on August 01, 2011, 05:32:08 PM
<optimism>
Anyway, 50 minutes is better than nothing. Let's hope for the best.
</optimism>

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on August 01, 2011, 06:05:04 PM
To call an established artised a warm-up act is just ludicrous, inpolite and simply not done!  Therefore don't expect to see it anywhere official.

As for the time MK will have on stage, I believe BD has too much respect for MK (and vice versa) so MK will have more time than this and I'm sure they will share the stage too.  Strangely I seem to be the only one here looking forward to it the nearer it comes. :o
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on August 01, 2011, 06:20:52 PM
No, you're definitely not alone!    I am really looking forward to the concert, whatever happens! ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dannyjun on August 01, 2011, 06:43:51 PM
I am looking forward to the concert anyway too  ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: schmonka on August 01, 2011, 08:54:19 PM
To call an established artised a warm-up act is just ludicrous, inpolite and simply not done!  Therefore don't expect to see it anywhere official.

As for the time MK will have on stage, I believe BD has too much respect for MK (and vice versa) so MK will have more time than this and I'm sure they will share the stage too.  Strangely I seem to be the only one here looking forward to it the nearer it comes. :o

Please don't think those are my views - i would never call MK a warm up act - but its just the way the tour looks.....its BD tour - MK is just tagging along.....there are no plans for the duo to play with each other.....simply do their own thing....its very much an us and them thing....and hearing what the lovely chaps on the BD forum have to say....well less said the better!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on August 02, 2011, 01:07:08 PM
To call an established artised a warm-up act is just ludicrous, inpolite and simply not done!  Therefore don't expect to see it anywhere official.

As for the time MK will have on stage, I believe BD has too much respect for MK (and vice versa) so MK will have more time than this and I'm sure they will share the stage too.  Strangely I seem to be the only one here looking forward to it the nearer it comes. :o

Please don't think those are my views - i would never call MK a warm up act - but its just the way the tour looks.....its BD tour - MK is just tagging along.....there are no plans for the duo to play with each other.....simply do their own thing....its very much an us and them thing....and hearing what the lovely chaps on the BD forum have to say....well less said the better!
[/quote]
Oh no, of course I didn't think those were you're views.  I had assumed these had been read somewhere else - probably on a BD forum.  BTW I have never visited a BD forum and never intend to either;  they are entitled to their opinion, we to ours.  It seems some of them are not polite in voicing their views from what I've read here, but it doesn't mean we should lower ourselves to criticising them for it. :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 03, 2011, 07:56:59 AM
As I mentioned before, Leon Russell is just playing the opening act for Bob Dylan...

Take a look at the poster for the tour, maybe it rings the bell

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hn67UtytZNw/Tf2HdYrdsQI/AAAAAAAACLM/dXilEZoR0f8/s1600/BobDylan+leon+russell+2011.jpg)

Does it looks like the Mark Knopfler tour poster?

(http://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/images/cms/home-page/Bob&Mark-banner6.png)

I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on August 03, 2011, 08:15:46 AM
JBaent, I would not give too much on posters - the same posters that said "plays all the Dire Straits world famous hits Money For Nothing, Walk of Life and bla bla bla." Secondly, Mark is much better looking than this Russell guy and therefore earns some more stage time for sure! :-)

Mark is a much bigger act, I would never assume that he is asked to do some kind of "opening act". Of course Bob is top act, but nevertheless Mark is bigger in Europe for sure, so I am sure it will be one hour playtime at least!

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 03, 2011, 08:27:29 AM
Mmmmm, Love Expresso, I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on August 03, 2011, 08:45:35 AM
What about......

Donegans, Sonny Liston & Bonaparte??? ;D

These are dead certs!

Cheers. BBB
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 03, 2011, 08:53:10 AM
What about......

Donegans, Sonny Liston & Bonaparte??? ;D

These are dead certs!

Cheers. BBB

We are talking about 50 minutes, don
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Jackal on August 03, 2011, 08:58:03 AM
And I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on August 03, 2011, 09:04:39 AM
Just a hunch, but I reckon this is the time
To resurrect TOL!!
 :o ;D 8)

Cheers. BBB
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Jackal on August 03, 2011, 09:08:06 AM
If he resurrects anything, TOL is probably least likely  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on August 03, 2011, 09:17:25 AM
mk plays 70, bd 90.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on August 03, 2011, 09:21:47 AM
mk plays 70, bd 90.


Plus 30 for changeover = 190     Ten mins too long!   :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on August 03, 2011, 09:33:21 AM
Plus 30 for changeover = 190     Ten mins too long!   :)
Let's do MK 70 + BD 80 !
Much easier to tape.  ;)
And you'd save your 10 mins  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on August 03, 2011, 09:34:52 AM
Plus 30 for changeover = 190     Ten mins too long!   :)
Let's do MK 70 + BD 80 !
Much easier to tape.  ;)
And you'd save your 10 mins  ;D

Agreed!    ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 03, 2011, 09:45:02 AM
Optimism rules!

 ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Rollergirl on August 03, 2011, 10:32:04 AM
MK, is the support act, even GF says so, but sometimes the first act comes back and plays a song or 2 at the end of the 2nd act....
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 03, 2011, 11:55:25 AM
MK, is the support act, even GF says so, but sometimes the first act comes back and plays a song or 2 at the end of the 2nd act....

Yeah, sometimes. Leon Russell is not doing it. And if MK does it I hope its in a regular basis, not only for one or two concerts, that will be very unfair to people that went to the other concerts, and of course great for the lucky ones.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 03, 2011, 12:16:24 PM
Well they are not rehearsing together so if it does happen I guess it will more likley be at later shows.

A shame about all the negativity, I would have thought that even the BD haters would be pleased about getting to see MK live again so quickly. I know I am.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 03, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
Dont get me wrong, I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 03, 2011, 12:41:58 PM
And last... the most important of the whole thing...

I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on August 03, 2011, 12:57:37 PM
who said they are not rehearsing together??
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 03, 2011, 01:31:53 PM
who said they are not rehearsing together??

Thought Guy said that, but can't be bothered searching frankly.

And yes, Scotland is a great place.

Except Glasgow. ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 03, 2011, 02:04:47 PM

( )

And yes, Scotland is a great place.

Except Glasgow. ;)

I know this is offtopic but during my last holydays in Asturias (North of Spain) I had the impression that Scotland is probably very similar to Asturias, talking about landscapes, weather etc etc...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/atmilinko/5945875823/in/set-72157627210660590 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/atmilinko/5945875823/in/set-72157627210660590)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/atmilinko/5954587736/in/set-72157627210660590 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/atmilinko/5954587736/in/set-72157627210660590)

This is the whole album, by the way http://www.flickr.com/photos/atmilinko/sets/72157627210660590/with/5945875823/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/atmilinko/sets/72157627210660590/with/5945875823/)

I have to say that I loved it, although I live in the land of the heat, I love the cold weather and the rain  ;D

And looks like its whats waiting for me this october, isn
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on August 03, 2011, 03:16:29 PM
I've never been to Asturias and never been to Scotland. A bit difficult for me to compare.
Asturias looks great but Glasgow will be for sure the most wonderful place on earth on October 8th. 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 03, 2011, 03:17:46 PM
Aye!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on August 03, 2011, 05:01:24 PM
And last... the most important of the whole thing...

I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on August 04, 2011, 10:18:50 AM
mk plays 70, bd 90.


Have you heard anything, Pottel, or are you guessing? Sounds good, I would be very fine with this.

Actually, I am not sure if any of the involved persons have thought so intensely about these details than we do right now. I am sure nobody wasted any thought about a set list until now, or knows how long the break will be. Also if Bob & Mark play together or not is probably not decided yet. I am sure they will work out something during the tour, when they meet at soundcheck or at catering  ;) and talk about it. So the chances are not very good for the first shows to hear them playing together. I am sorry!  :lol

Guy is very silent for a few days now...

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on August 04, 2011, 10:50:32 AM
mk plays 70, bd 90.



Guy is very silent for a few days now...

LE

Probably having a family holiday!   :)     
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on August 04, 2011, 11:20:39 AM
Same reason why tours always end on July 31st.  8)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on August 04, 2011, 11:49:26 AM
i have heard it LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dannyjun on August 04, 2011, 11:55:52 AM
Really, Pottel? And, if you don
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on August 04, 2011, 12:09:15 PM
i have heard it LE

Hey, did you ask PC about it?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 04, 2011, 12:10:24 PM
i have heard it LE

Hey, did you ask PC about it?

Pottel is the tour planner.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on August 04, 2011, 12:19:20 PM
i have heard it LE

Hey, did you ask PC about it?

Pottel is the tour planner.
Hmph, then I have to withdraw my application for employment.
 ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on August 04, 2011, 01:10:07 PM
nope, not PC.
can't tell.
also, it is not from any other official (MK) source directly.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on August 04, 2011, 02:11:23 PM
Cool. Then of course we should not dig any deeper. 70 Minute would be very alright with me. It has to do with concert feel like having an opener song, middle part and finale grande... And it leaves some space for one or two new songs, as said earlier. I am looking forward to this show more and more.
Yesterday I was even thinking about a second show in Hannover, because that is also a Sunday. But the good tickets are all gone obviously, so I keep that in mind for maybe later and see what happens.

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on August 04, 2011, 07:46:30 PM
but now i am not sure anymore, maybe it is as mentioned here, 50 rather then 70.
who knows? (and that is a question, not a rhetorical question)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 04, 2011, 11:01:28 PM
Dont forget that a change of stage is needed, and that takes time...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dannyjun on August 05, 2011, 11:27:17 AM
Still, MK is very popular in all these countries, and I think it
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on August 05, 2011, 03:07:18 PM
Still, MK is very popular in all these countries, and I think it
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dannyjun on August 05, 2011, 03:16:29 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Jackal on August 05, 2011, 03:29:10 PM
Do you really think some people could be disappointed ?  ::)
120
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on August 05, 2011, 03:55:55 PM
A healthy dose of sarcasm detected.

------

Hahahaha. HAHAHAHA! Hihi.


No sarcasm at all !  ::)
Let me explain : When you'll be stuck in BD's part you'll compare to MK's part.
And then you'll realize how the 50 minutes were wonderful.
The best show of your life !

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Jackal on August 05, 2011, 04:06:59 PM
Sorry for misunderstanding you. I just thought the sentence where you can hear again and again and again WII, R&J, SOS, DWB, SAN, BIA and SFA said it all.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on August 05, 2011, 11:21:04 PM
OK, I think I know...

If you use the TOUR page to buy, you got that error, but if you use the TICKETS page in the store you can access...

A bit tricky in my opinion...

If I recall that morning correctly, then the presale started one hour earlier than announced, but the tickets were only available via the link to the shop.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 07, 2011, 12:35:57 AM
I think there are cases where some tickets are reserved to various types of presales. I read in the BD forum that there is someone doing a presale for BD fans that looks very exclusive, as they order the tickets to him...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on August 10, 2011, 08:12:02 AM
Found this on the ER forum.   I don't think they know on that forum about John's involvement with MK and the band!

http://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/167102/9

EDIT:   This has now been amended and doesn't mention John as being "support"!

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dreamsound on August 10, 2011, 10:51:31 PM
Mark supporting Bob, John supporting Mark, Mike supporting John, Phil supporing Mike, etc.... = endless show. What the hell?  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: twm on August 11, 2011, 01:33:22 AM
Well, as someone who is more of a Dylan fan than a Knopfler fan, I was certainly aware that John McCusker was a member of MK's recent touring band. 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 13, 2011, 06:10:42 PM
Looks like "raining" forumers and writting here in the end!  ;)

Welcome  :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: shooting_star_night on August 21, 2011, 08:12:17 AM
This Summer Bobs shows were shorter we still had the same amount if
songs and vibe, but the sets were quite short.

You must always place Bobs sets at 90 M as is how it's always been
even though now days 85 M is quite rare.
 
Mark is sure to get at least 70 M.

Yet something about the upcoming tour seems different. Perhaps both artists
will surprise us with something we would not expect.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 22, 2011, 01:52:09 PM

I just read this:


The Desolation Row Information Service has listed two additional rumored shows for Bob Dylan's European fall tour.

The tour is currently scheduled to resume on October 6th at Dublin's 02 Arena. On July 19, Bob Dylan's official tour page temporarily added an earlier show at the venue on the 5th, but it was removed the following day. This is still listed as a potential show for the tour.

The DRIS also reports that Dylan may play Dublin's Vicar Street on the 4th.

However, nothing is confirmed until it is listed on Dylan's official tour page.


Continue reading on Examiner.com Bob Dylan European autumn tour rumors - Dublin's Vicar Street and another at 02 - National Bob Dylan | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/bob-dylan-in-national/bob-dylan-european-autumn-tour-rumors-dublin-s-vicar-street-and-another-at-02#ixzz1VkzXVnZv

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ds1984 on August 22, 2011, 02:07:35 PM
A UK tour without visiting London would be a non sens so there will be some extra dates scheduled
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on August 22, 2011, 02:45:34 PM
I am not sure. I could think that London (if anything) is the absolute MK stronghold, and maybe even MK suggested not to go there - because it is the Bob Dylan tour after all. It would not be so great for Bob to play the Albert Hall and have 5000 regular MK fans in front of his nose. So maybe they will indeed drop London this time. However I am not sure about the usual concerts BD gives. Is he a regular in London, referring to his last tour schedules?
I found a Dylan concert in the London 02 arena back in 2009 but no show there in 2010?

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 22, 2011, 03:03:10 PM
Dylan played at the roundhouse in London (Camden) but cant remember if was after or before the o2 arena show.

By the way, the o2 in London looks like a  B I G  venue for Dylan...

I do think that they will play several dates in London, but looking at the schedule, I guess it wont be until mid-november, after the last dy scheduled, as both venues and artists have previous commitments... Anyway, I dont mind as London is not in my radar for this tour, this tour I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ds1984 on August 22, 2011, 05:00:00 PM
I would guess for a one nite only show in London in a Wembley Arena sort of.

And the fact that the audience can be filled by MK fans is the last thing that BD would care about. And I do think that there are actauly a lot of BD fans in London area and even more than MK's.

Bobby is a legend  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: twm on August 25, 2011, 12:20:38 AM
I am confident that the BD/MK tour will play London and, in my view, more than one show. They're both big there. I can't imagine a European tour by Dylan without a show or shows in London.  It's unthinkable!

Anyway, on past form, it's not just the fans in London who will go. Dylan fans will travel from all over the place to catch him in London. MK fans, too, I guess. I've certainly met MK fans from Europe and North America at his London shows and, for Dylan, from those continents and from as far afield as Australia, too.

At present, I'm down for the Bournemouth show but, if Dylan does two or three shows in London, I shall definitely be after tickets for all those (assuming it's not a vast place like the O2). At the end of a European tour, especially if there are multiple dates, we're likely to get a lot of song variation from night to night. Perhaps Mark will follow suit.

And, if they haven't played on stage together earlier in the tour, odds on they'll do so in London - unless they have a clash of egos along the way, of course.

I'd even like to think that Dylan might try out Mark's studio whilst he's here.  There may not be time because Dylan appears to prefer to get back home for their Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 25, 2011, 02:18:58 AM
I'm sure they will play London... and you
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on August 25, 2011, 09:55:43 AM
What? Please, tell us!

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on August 25, 2011, 10:00:08 AM
I'm sure they will play London... and you
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ds1984 on August 25, 2011, 10:18:23 AM
A place that Mark did not play for 23 years?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on August 25, 2011, 02:58:15 PM
A place that Mark did not played for 23 years?

Hammersmith Odeon!  That last time would be 2nd Mandela warm-up 09.06.88! ;D  What's the prize?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ds1984 on August 25, 2011, 03:06:34 PM
A place that Mark did not played for 23 years?

Hammersmith Odeon!  That last time would be 2nd Mandela warm-up 09.06.88! ;D  What's the prize?

Something like
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 25, 2011, 03:58:08 PM
You, smart people  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jabbathehut on August 25, 2011, 10:37:15 PM
and there is a nice gap in the listings of the apollo from 19-23rd Nov :) :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 26, 2011, 02:07:45 AM
Very smart, again  ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 26, 2011, 03:15:12 AM
What? Please, tell us!

LE

Cant tell bu myself, but amit members were very smart in previous posts  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on August 26, 2011, 07:52:23 AM
 ;)

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ds1984 on August 26, 2011, 09:49:29 AM
Don't forget that Wembley Stadium has availabilities and hasn't been played for 23 years either  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 26, 2011, 12:16:38 PM
Don't forget that Wembley Stadium has availabilities and hasn't been played for 23 years either  ;D

Not very smart right now  8)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on August 26, 2011, 12:22:17 PM
Don't forget that Wembley Stadium has availabilities and hasn't been played for 23 years either  ;D

2006 with Emmylou.  You slipped up! ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 26, 2011, 12:32:44 PM
Don't forget that Wembley Stadium has availabilities and hasn't been played for 23 years either  ;D

2006 with Emmylou.  You slipped up! ;D

The stadium and the arena are different things...

Wembley Arena
(http://fondosdibujosanimados.com.es/images/wallpapers/wembley-arena-812879.jpeg)

Wembley Stadium
(http://www.ceroacero.es/img/estadios/032/11032_ori_new_wembley_stadium.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on August 26, 2011, 01:38:40 PM
That's the new Wembley though since the Mandela concert, but I did misread the post.  Sorry! :-[
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: twm on August 26, 2011, 08:25:41 PM
Rumour is that there will be an announcement very soon about London shows, so I guess after this weekend. Since it is a public holiday in the UK on Monday, some time later next week seems the most likely, though previous experience suggests that there might just be slippage in making the news public. Whatever, we'll hear soon.

The other thing to remember about possible dates (as I've said before) is that Dylan does like to get back to the bosom of his family for Thanksgiving, which is the last Thursday in November.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on August 29, 2011, 05:17:14 PM
So the London dates will be the last of the tour... A pitty, it will be the first tour since 1983 that Mark Knopfler will go on tour and he doesnt play in Spain.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on August 31, 2011, 11:43:22 PM
any announcement yet??
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on September 01, 2011, 12:47:08 PM
any announcement yet??
Is it not too late to expect something   ???

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on September 01, 2011, 02:27:05 PM
any announcement yet??
Is it not too late to expect something   ???



I dont know what they are waiting for...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Rollergirl on September 01, 2011, 02:49:04 PM
any announcement yet??
Is it not too late to expect something   ???
I dont know what they are waiting for...

very strange, and also unfair to those who have already purchased tickets to other venues...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: twm on September 01, 2011, 04:06:36 PM
If you think we're all slightly unhinged, then read this and take comfort:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/sinead-makes-plea-to-bob-dylan-let-me-sing-with-you-2864336.htm

It's not just Bob to whom she makes this plea!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on September 01, 2011, 04:58:15 PM
I like this bit:

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Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on September 01, 2011, 07:31:07 PM
I like this bit:

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Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on September 01, 2011, 08:19:36 PM
I like this bit:

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Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 01, 2011, 09:34:23 PM
No, she thinks MK would only go for her if he couldn't see her face.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on September 01, 2011, 09:36:33 PM
No, she thinks MK would only go for her if he couldn't see her face.

Oh, I see. Well, she's probably right  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on September 01, 2011, 09:53:42 PM
No, she thinks MK would only go for her if he couldn't see her face.

Oh, I see. Well, she's probably right  ;D

Yes, she is...   :lol
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ds1984 on September 02, 2011, 12:28:35 AM
No, she thinks MK would only go for her if he couldn't see her face.

Oh, I see. Well, she's probably right  ;D

Yes, she is...   :lol

She has to face a bipolar disorder diagnosis so any need to say more?
I stick with her singing.
 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: shooting_star_night on September 02, 2011, 08:21:24 PM
Nothing yet; if not Saturday then most-likely Monday  ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on September 02, 2011, 09:16:17 PM
that link is not valid anymore, anyone got an alternative??
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: joko on September 03, 2011, 07:04:08 PM
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/sinead-makes-plea-to-bob-dylan-let-me-sing-with-you-2864336.html
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Waterline Man on September 03, 2011, 08:46:58 PM
This article was in Thursdays Irish Independent - maybe she forgot that she gave the interview in th efirst place ::) ::)

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/sinead-makes-plea-to-bob-dylan-let-me-sing-with-you-2864336.html


I will never as long as I live, consider appearing on the late late show again[/b]. And I might add that no apology or act of respect has been issued by either the presenter of the show, nor any one in a leading position on the show. I am tired of all this 'sinead is crazy' crap. Its a disgrace. It has caused me enormous pain in my life as an artist and has many times led me to consider ending my life. Thankfully I have four beautiful reasons not to. Those are my precious children. But no woman should have to walk around feeling like someone has driven a tree through her heart.I can honestly say that is how I felt since my conversation with the Late Late researcher

Hmmmmm - move forward to Friday night :disbelief :disbelief

There is a link to MK though - she has a child with Donal Lunny who was on the "A night in London" dvd & the Golden Heart album.


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AscNY6VmnJ4&feature=player_detailpage
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on September 05, 2011, 05:09:54 PM
any announcement yet??
Is it not too late to expect something   ???



I dont know what they are waiting for...
I don't know what WE are waiting for ...  ??? :-[ :-\
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: twm on September 05, 2011, 06:36:54 PM
London shows? Check out this listing:-

http://venues.meanfiddler.com/apollo/full-listings/?tickets_search_value=&tickets_view_type=list&tickets_search_date=2011-11

Note that is a run of 4 free dates in the right spot - a couple of days after the two Swiss shows and before Thanksgiving in the United States. This would give Dylan, his band and the American musicians in Mark's band time to get home for their traditional family get-togethers. A couple of shows could be fitted in easily.

It would also allow a bit of r'n'r time beforehand - either rest and relaxation in London or a bit of musical r'n'r together in the studio if the chemistry were right.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on September 06, 2011, 11:41:55 AM
I know it's London but the closer we get to the tour kick-off the less confident I am regarding London shows. ???

What makes me keep hoping is that I clearly recognize PCM's touch in the tour organization.
These people always a have trouble to release the last dates. 
Usually nobody really cares because who would care if French, Swiss, Italian or Spanish dates are released weeks or months later ? Or never.
London : that's unusual and surprising (and unfair !).

My theory is Bob didn't need to do London, he already played in London this year. Done. Next stop London is in 2013.
Of course, different story for MK :  London dates are the most important ones.
I think MK tries to convince Bob to add the London dates and if not possible maybe he could do it alone.  ;D 
 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: twm on September 06, 2011, 03:31:52 PM
As I said before, it is very difficult to envisage Dylan doing a European tour like this without doing at least one London show (and maybe two or three).

In terms of holding back the announcement of London dates, it makes prefect business sense - first you sell as many tickets as possible for the provincial (and continental) shows and, only after a delay to allow that to happen, do you put the London shows on sale. Maybe that's not fair to the fans but I can certainly see the logic in doing it that way. I can't answer for MK fans but I feel pretty sure that some Dylan fans, having bought tickets for the other shows, will still stump up the cash for the London show or shows, once they're announced.  It spreads the pain of paying those ticket prices, too.

In fact, the delay between announcing the main body of the tour and (assuming it happens) announcing the London show(s) only strengthens my belief that there will not be just one show in London but more than one. One show in London, particularly in the venue I cited, would sell pretty well, come what may. A second or third show would be more of a problem - hence the delay in announcing the London show(s).  I've already earmarked the money for tickets to three shows. We shall see. Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on September 06, 2011, 05:48:49 PM
Thanx twm for your comment. Gonna change my way of thinking.  ;)
Usually MK has the opposite logic. He sets UK, London and Germany first, rest of Europe comes later without any fair.
They clearly make you feel you're not their priority.  >:(

London or no London, I have to say I like Bob's strategy. This tour is a dream.
A nice big surprise, I can really save money, I have a hometown show (never have with MK), Bob plays in big cities with airports on Saturdays, it's easy to travel, you can book in advance.
What else can I say ? 8) 
Ok it's not easy and not fair for London people (I know exactly how they feel  :-[), but I would love to be in a similar situation : high chances of many upcoming shows.  ::)



Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ds1984 on September 07, 2011, 04:11:23 PM
I really don't see what is "unfair" for London people. They have every acts playing and they most probably will have this one too and maybe several nights.

Even if for once this will be a late announcement for londoners they still get a first class treatment.

Never had the chance to see DS / MK play less than 150 miles from home meaning big bucks each time. But I get fast train or plane to London and motorway as well, could be worse...


Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on September 07, 2011, 05:54:41 PM
I really don't see what is "unfair" for London people. They have every acts playing and they most probably will have this one too and maybe several nights.

Even if for once this will be a late announcement for londoners they still get a first class treatment.

Never had the chance to see DS / MK play less than 150 miles from home meaning big bucks each time. But I get fast train or plane to London and motorway as well, could be worse...

Today's situation is : no date in London. Even if there is 99% chances to have 3-4 shows vs 1% to have nothing in London, you can only speculate, pray, imagine and buy tickets for somewhere else.
I don't think it's nice and fair to let people spend money in travel expenses if you know you're going in their town.
What I call fair is to release all the dates at the same time and let people organize themselves. 



Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on September 07, 2011, 06:54:19 PM
I agree with Tunnel85, its unfair to release dates little by little, because you have to plan not only to purchase the tickets, but planes, hotels, holydays etc etc

I have an example that affected myself. When MK toured with Emmylou Harris, it was no date in Spain when the anouncement was made. Then, me and a very numerous group of friends decided to go to Dublin. We purchased the tickets, booked the flights, hotels and arranged the free days we needed at work. Then later, a date in Spain was released. After all the money spent, all the plans made, a date in Spain was anounced...

My answer was "go to hell", I ignored that date at all, it was very very unfair, so I decided to act if that date didnt exist. As far as I recall, I was free for that concert, but I refused to attend it.

And Dublin, was a very very great experience!!!!!  ;)

When the MK & BD dates were released, everything looked so similar that I decided to do the same, choose the more convenient date and ignore any future date. And thats what I did.

But any of you waiting for the London dates, hey, you have to go, its the Alchemy venue, its magic. I know, I attended a Toto show there in 2006  :D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on September 07, 2011, 07:06:54 PM
But any of you waiting for the London dates, hey, you have to go, its the Alchemy venue, its magic. I know, I attended a Toto show there in 2006  :D

jbaent, I am eagerly awaiting the London dates!    I just wish they would announce them soon, so we can book our hotel and train!   :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: twm on September 08, 2011, 01:43:29 AM
As I indicated before, the question of fairness to fans is but a small factor here and is not therefore of paramount importance. Touring is a business and the aim is to maximise ticket sales. That is not the same as saying that tour promoters, artists' managers and venue operators set out to inconvenience fans as a deliberate policy. Of course not.  From their perspective, it is an entirely rational  approach.  From our perspective, their approach is explicable.  In short, I'm not trying to justify their approach but to explain it.

And in terms of London getting more concerts by more performers than other parts of Britain, then that is not only self-evident but also entirely explicable. London is the capital city and the biggest conurbation in the country. I say this as a Londoner who, currently and for the last quarter of a century, has lived almost as far from London as it is possible to be and still be in England (almost on the Scottish border). It is not just concerts but theatre, art exhibitions and similar cultural events that are centred in London. If you want to attend these (or at least some of these), then you have to make a concious decision to go and do it. The odd thing is that, quite often, it is our friends and family in the London area who miss out on them. Because they are so close to the scene and live busy lives, they procrastinate (the "I'll do it next weekend" syndrome) and then it slips their minds and the chance has gone. As you indicate, we have to clear the space in our diaries in advance, book the travel and arrange the accommodation. Once that's done, you're committed and get on and do it.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on September 08, 2011, 09:11:08 AM
it is a business, loads of people need to live from it (and i do not mean the artists in this case) will you go to Ikea and tell them it is not fair that they sell their hotdogs for 1pound (i know crappy comparison, but it was the first thing that came up) but you have to put the sauce and pickles on it yourself?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on September 08, 2011, 10:27:05 AM
it is a business, loads of people need to live from it (and i do not mean the artists in this case) will you go to Ikea and tell them it is not fair that they sell their hotdogs for 1pound (i know crappy comparison, but it was the first thing that came up) but you have to put the sauce and pickles on it yourself?
Of course it's a business. Like in every business you have a customer vs seller situation. The customer is the one who pays... No one is obliged to buy tickets, it's only entertainment but sometimes you'd like the process to be smoother.
I like your your camparison.  No pickles and no sauce for me please.  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: schmonka on September 08, 2011, 01:17:45 PM
I have just caught up with the good Doc's comments and one stood out for me after someone asked if practice for the upcoming tour should have started...the Docs reply was no - we dont need much practice...

Now i know these chaps can pretty much turn their hand to any of the DS/MK back catalogue instantly - but to me for there not to be much practice needed suggests the set list will be Get Lucky highlights....surely if some new tunes were being dusted off - more practice would be needed?  As we all know how much MK is a stickler for perfection...!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on September 08, 2011, 01:45:20 PM
No practice needed because the equation is simple : short setlist and same core songs played anyway (SOS, R&J, WII, DWB, ....). The only "new" material could be MFN, maybe one new song or one old DS or early solo Mk back in the game. No need to practice a lot.  ;)
I wouldn't blame the band if there's no change because I really liked the GL tour. Furthermore, having a setlist ready to be played is certainly one of the reasons why they could "easily" join Bob on tour.   
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ARII on September 08, 2011, 01:49:24 PM
Not sure about that. MK tends to do the recording as a live act so they'd easily be able to run off a couple of new numbers if they wanted to. I also don't think that it takes as much practise to perform live in general these days, as the on stage sound and mnitoring is so good. 20 years ago it was so hard to hear how the tune was coming out from all parts of the band practise did make perfect but these days not so......Does anyone have any idea who Bob's got in his band these days, I haven't seen him since the True Confessions Tour when TPATHB were his rather excellent back-up.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ds1984 on September 08, 2011, 02:46:36 PM
Don't forget this is Guy view on it, and Mark has a busy schedule that may not allow him to rehearse as much as he want.

Anyway they are all top session musos, most of the probable setlist has already been played to death by the majority of the band but until the tireness factor put the thing down usually the more they play the better they are.

Add that the long rehearsal process / perfectionist reputation that Mark gained over the years is actually contradicted by how he has done things for the last decade, even going as far as to include a "ovedubless one take only" track in his lastest album.

On some aspects (L)Easy Mark would be most accurate now.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on September 08, 2011, 03:03:57 PM
Don't forget that Guy said "not much rehearsal" and not "no rehearsal"... The first tour date is Oct 6, and they start Sept 19th, so pretty much the
same schedule as always - one or two weeks, including production rehearsal.

Also, they rehearsed "The Man's Too Strong" back in 2003, so they will know how to play it this time!  :P

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on September 21, 2011, 11:54:15 AM
Question on Guy's forum:

Guy, i believe this week is rehearselweek so good luck! Any chance, (without saying the names!!! ofcource!!!), if there are any surprises on the list? Let's say a new song or one from the old days who has not been played live in many years...... Hope i dont get a aghr.... Anyway good luck, have fun and see you in sold out Sportpaleis in Antwerp!!

Guy's answer:

Yes


So, there is a surprise on the rehearsel list? Hope that it will hold to the shows ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: schmonka on September 21, 2011, 01:22:27 PM
Dont we all know guys responses yet to be just a tad sceptical?

Suspect if there is an "oldie" it will be MFN.... :disbelief
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on September 21, 2011, 01:51:33 PM
Guy could mean  "Yes, I will see you in Antwerp"  ;D

I think (and hope) MFN is back in the game but I wouldn't say it's a surprise.
My oldie bid is Iron hand. 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on September 21, 2011, 08:42:14 PM
The Man's Too Strong.

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on September 22, 2011, 11:19:37 AM
man, listening to the best Dylana album for ages, and listening to the 16min(!) epic song "Highlands"
i would wish mark and bob would play that together,...nice and jj cale like ....brilliant song..
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on September 22, 2011, 11:48:50 AM
Brilliant lyrics. About Neil Young. And Erica Jong. And hard boiled eggs. And loooong white shining legs...

 8)

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on September 22, 2011, 11:51:39 AM
I love Time Out of Mind - it's one of my favourite BD albums.   :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on September 22, 2011, 11:55:35 AM
man, listening to the best Dylana album for ages, and listening to the 16min(!) epic song "Highlands"
i would wish mark and bob would play that together,...nice and jj cale like ....brilliant song..
16min ? and jj cale like ? I like that ! Gonna try it asap.   :)
I must get deeper into dylan material. There must be a way to get out of the BWMcT / AATW / MITLB triptych.   ::)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on September 22, 2011, 12:01:09 PM
Time out of mind first.
Infidels, Slow train Coming, Love and Theft, Together through life...

also, the song Series of Dreams would sound brilliant with MArk, as would ...omg, too many songs...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: joko on September 22, 2011, 12:03:15 PM
man, listening to the best Dylana album for ages, ...

what's the title of that  album ?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on September 22, 2011, 12:20:17 PM
man, listening to the best Dylana album for ages, ...

what's the title of that  album ?
Time out of mind.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on September 22, 2011, 12:37:16 PM
man, listening to the best Dylana album for ages, ...

what's the title of that  album ?
Time out of mind.

I had an attempt to listen to that one yesterday. And Love and Theft. It is really, really difficult for me to find access. I really want to (despite what some of you might think) but it's very hard. Most songs sound dull and dusty and repetitive to me (mind you, this is my first or second impression).
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on September 22, 2011, 12:40:57 PM
man, listening to the best Dylana album for ages, ...

what's the title of that  album ?
Time out of mind.

I had an attempt to listen to that one yesterday. And Love and Theft. It is really, really difficult for me to find access. I really want to (despite what some of you might think) but it's very hard. Most songs sound dull and dusty and repetitive to me (mind you, this is my first or second impression).

Have you tried the two with MK?   Slow Train Coming is really beautiful and Infidels too.   :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on September 22, 2011, 03:12:03 PM
man, listening to the best Dylana album for ages, ...
what's the title of that  album ?
Time out of mind.

I had an attempt to listen to that one yesterday. And Love and Theft. It is really, really difficult for me to find access. I really want to (despite what some of you might think) but it's very hard. Most songs sound dull and dusty and repetitive to me (mind you, this is my first or second impression).
sorry GH, you are not a good reference when it comes down to Bob, now would it have been Paul....
:-)  ;D

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on September 22, 2011, 03:14:05 PM
tell Ol Bill
Things have changed,...
all on the last Bootleg Series double album (vol. 8 if i am not mistaken)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on September 22, 2011, 08:51:33 PM
man, listening to the best Dylana album for ages, ...
what's the title of that  album ?
Time out of mind.

I had an attempt to listen to that one yesterday. And Love and Theft. It is really, really difficult for me to find access. I really want to (despite what some of you might think) but it's very hard. Most songs sound dull and dusty and repetitive to me (mind you, this is my first or second impression).
sorry GH, you are not a good reference when it comes down to Bob, now would it have been Paul....
:-)  ;D



Where did I say I am? Everyone here knows about my struggle with Dylan. I'm trying to take him serious, because I still haven't given up I might find access one day.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Fletch on September 23, 2011, 01:31:49 AM
I really love latter day Dylan. Time Out Of Mind, Love and Theft, Modern Times, Together Through Life - great vibes and sounds. Along with Tell Tale Signs, these albums are a reminder to me of how music I hear on the radio or on idol tv shows, has lost it's way.
I heard Paul Simon and JJ Cale are opening for MK before he opens for Dylan? ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on September 23, 2011, 07:39:25 AM
Maybe underrated, but I also can recommend "Bob Dylan MTV Unplugged". Good sounding band and some rare stuff as usual, but also some of the "evergreens". Shooting Star comes to mind, great song...

Last night I thought how great it would be for the upcoming shows when Bob played first - I really fear the moment Mark goes off the stage and then we have to get "that" other artist. However big my admiration for Bob is, Mark is my all time hero. It would be a perfect evening for me if Bob opened and then Mark followed - but I know of course that this will not be possible. Pity.

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Rollergirl on September 23, 2011, 08:19:44 AM
Where did I say I am? Everyone here knows about my struggle with Dylan. I'm trying to take him serious, because I still haven't given up I might find access one day.

you didn't, we know  ;D

Yes, you have to work hard, you have to DESERVE him  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on September 23, 2011, 02:31:20 PM
Where did I say I am? Everyone here knows about my struggle with Dylan. I'm trying to take him serious, because I still haven't given up I might find access one day.

you didn't, we know  ;D

Yes, you have to work hard, you have to DESERVE him  ;D

Ugh, I feel nauseous  ;D
You mean you all know I have already given up? Well, not yet... I hope the two concerts won't put my hopes to rest. And if that should be the case, well, with some music it's like with human interactions: Either you immediately like a person, you grow into that relationship or it never happens. If scenario three should come true: Thank God there is plenty of other music to discover. I'm going to say it again, even though that sentence will crash into some walls of arrogance again: Dylan is NOT the ultimate measurement. it must be allowed to dislike him with a good reason without being made fun of.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on September 23, 2011, 02:35:51 PM
That said, I do in fact like the MTV Unplugged with Dylan.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on September 23, 2011, 08:18:43 PM
it must be allowed to dislike him with a good reason without being made fun of.

Nope.

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on September 23, 2011, 09:03:17 PM
it must be allowed to dislike him with a good reason without being made fun of.

Nope.

LE

Didn't expect any other answer from you.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on September 23, 2011, 09:21:49 PM
Just fun. Who is that guy on your avatar?  :P

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on September 24, 2011, 05:50:35 PM
Just fun. Who is that guy on your avatar?  :P

LE


Not Bob  ;D But who knows, things MIGHT change  :P
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 24, 2011, 09:43:21 PM
John has pics from rehearsal up on twittter, and he has a tele withhim.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Jackal on September 24, 2011, 10:05:42 PM
John has pics from rehearsal up on twittter, and he has a tele withhim.

Coyote up?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 24, 2011, 11:46:54 PM
Didn't want to post a potential spoiler myself, but it seems likely. :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on September 25, 2011, 10:28:31 AM
Cleaning My Gun?

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on September 25, 2011, 12:25:22 PM
Or a new song we dont know yet...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on September 25, 2011, 12:36:54 PM
Did McCusker play the Tele on CMG or Coyote? Oh dear, my memory... I'd prefer MK to play CMG as I haven't heard it live in 2010, but everything is fine with me as long as Bonaparte stays the heck out of the setlist  >:(

By the way, do you guys think MK will play seated again? I hope not... But I fear he might have found that chair very comfy...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on September 25, 2011, 12:43:59 PM
Did McCusker play the Tele on CMG or Coyote? Oh dear, my memory... I'd prefer MK to play CMG as I haven't heard it live in 2010, but everything is fine with me as long as Bonaparte stays the heck out of the setlist  >:(

By the way, do you guys think MK will play seated again? I hope not... But I fear he might have found that chair very comfy...

He definitely played the tele on Coyote - can't remember about CMG.  I heard CMG in Dublin and it sounded really great, but I like both so I don't mind.

I think he will play standing up, but I really liked him playing sitting down!   :P
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Rollergirl on September 25, 2011, 01:27:32 PM
standing or seating, doesn't matter to me, as long as I am sitting and he does his twiddly bits
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on September 25, 2011, 01:33:15 PM
And Bob does Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum...

so the circle is complete...

 ;)

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ds1984 on September 25, 2011, 07:02:15 PM
Did McCusker play the Tele on CMG or Coyote? Oh dear, my memory... I'd prefer MK to play CMG as I haven't heard it live in 2010, but everything is fine with me as long as Bonaparte stays the heck out of the setlist  >:(

By the way, do you guys think MK will play seated again? I hope not... But I fear he might have found that chair very comfy...

He definitely played the tele on Coyote - can't remember about CMG.  I heard CMG in Dublin and it sounded really great, but I like both so I don't mind.

I think he will play standing up, but I really liked him playing sitting down!   :P

Would say :
Coyote : JMcK
CMG : MK

Would add : live Coyote was a better song* than CMG so you can have not too many regrets if you missed it last tour.

* GL as well - too bad that he did not play it more often.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on September 25, 2011, 08:56:53 PM
I watched a video of Cleaning my gun, and Tim O'Brian (John McCusker substitute for the US leg) was playing the telecaster on that song, so I guess John McCusker did the same.

As far as we know MK, I bet that it will be a new song

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on September 26, 2011, 12:57:23 AM
I watched a video of Cleaning my gun, and Tim O'Brian (John McCusker substitute for the US leg) was playing the telecaster on that song, so I guess John McCusker did the same.

As far as we know MK, I bet that it will be a new song

 :lol :lol :lol

A new song - or a brand new arrangement of Done With Bonaparte!
 ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ds1984 on September 26, 2011, 01:16:01 AM
I watched a video of Cleaning my gun, and Tim O'Brian (John McCusker substitute for the US leg) was playing the telecaster on that song, so I guess John McCusker did the same.

As far as we know MK, I bet that it will be a new song

 :lol :lol :lol

So wasn't it Prairie Wedding feat. Mark on the Tele?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on September 26, 2011, 02:45:50 AM
I watched a video of Cleaning my gun, and Tim O'Brian (John McCusker substitute for the US leg) was playing the telecaster on that song, so I guess John McCusker did the same.

As far as we know MK, I bet that it will be a new song

 :lol :lol :lol

So wasn't it Prairie Wedding feat. Mark on the Tele?

The picture showed John McCusker guitars (actually a cittern, a telecaster and an acoustic guitar) not MK guitars...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on September 26, 2011, 07:08:55 AM
John on Coyote was so striking that I remember the complete performance of him on that song, he made fun of playing that vibrato part. I think on CMG his part was slightly the same, he played the same stuff more or less. And there must be somebody around here who has seen it live on stage, I know CMG wasn't played often but...

I said earlier that I hope for CMG as new opening song, so I hope of course  it will be indeed on the set list...  ;)

Another question is what's about the acoustic guitar on the right of that picture? Did John play an acoustic on the last tour? I can't remember...

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on September 26, 2011, 08:45:55 AM
saw cmg live in antwerp and quite like the power of the performance. cannot remember john vividly though
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on September 26, 2011, 05:09:01 PM
You are all wrong, the tele that McCusker will play is for a new song... You
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Justme on September 29, 2011, 06:36:59 PM
John has posted two more pics, I guess from the rehearsal:
http://lockerz.com/s/142703929
http://lockerz.com/s/142703685

You can follow John on twitter at http://twitter.com/johnmccusker .
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Fieneke2 on September 29, 2011, 08:40:35 PM

Thanks for posting these links Justme!  ;D

Fieneke
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on October 02, 2011, 10:04:42 AM
An interesting reply today from Guy:

We are all very excited about this tour which promises to be quite different. Some nice surprises too!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Rollergirl on October 02, 2011, 10:36:57 AM
yeah I just saw that. I like surprises  :). But then again it could be Guy's "marketing talk" and the surprise is just a new shirt or a new version of Done with Bonaparte  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Dutchessy on October 02, 2011, 11:50:04 AM
An interesting reply today from Guy:

We are all very excited about this tour which promises to be quite different. Some nice surprises too!


I think Tunnel of Love and 2 new songs :P
Or Mark & Bob contacted each other and decided to share the stage on some songs
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 02, 2011, 09:06:03 PM
There's usually at least one surprise... Coyote last year, all the Ragpickers stuff in 08, Why Worry in 06.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Tally on October 04, 2011, 10:35:58 AM
The last great song to be played from RPD is Fare Thee Well Northumberland, bring it on!  ;D

But variation should keep me happy.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on October 15, 2011, 05:27:41 PM
After the recent note from Bob to MK to join him in a song at Bournemouth show, I wanted to post this kind of conclusion:

- MK and Bob are both playing different concerts, without seeing each other
- MK and Bob people are travelling and sleeping in hotels separately
- MK is soundchecking with his band, it looks like Bob
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on October 15, 2011, 05:44:37 PM
Just want to add a little comment a friend of mine just e-mailed me about the respect and admiration he had for Bob Dylan...

Its about the admiration for the great songwriter that he was and still is and the honour that was that Bob asked Knopfler to join him in 1978 and 1983 to record two different records with him, producing material for a big part of what was "The bootleg series volume 3" as well.

Its about loosing a big part of that respect and admiration because the way all this "together tour" is happening and the attitude towards Mark Knopfler. Carrying someone with you and ignoring him in that way, with the only exception of the initial invitation (How it happened, by letter, by e-mail, did Bob sent a note using his manager?) and the invitation to play with his band in Bournemouth, that happened in such a curios way.


The italicized part are the comments of my friend, and I do agree in some aspects, I dont like the way they are doing the whole thing, travelling in separated buses, in different times, differents hotels, everything separated etc etc. I cant admire Dylan for this, but for his past.

Bob is Bob is not enough for me in this case. But all the comments about this thoughts are welcome and appreciated, including Dylan
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ds1984 on October 15, 2011, 06:17:06 PM
What count : what happens or the way it happens?

Obviously Mark did not see any offend or lack of respect of anything as he did positively answer each time Bob asked something.

And do you think that on the road the main bill often socialize with the opening act?
Don't forget that this is also a job and they both are into their thing : prepare and perform a show, and the whole organization is set to that. This is not a social club.



Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: holaknopfler on October 15, 2011, 06:23:15 PM
What count : what happens or the way it happens?

Obviously Mark did not see any offend or lack of respect of anything as he did positively answer each time Bob asked something.

And do you think that on the road the main bill often socialize with the opening act?
Don't forget that this is also a job and they both are into their thing : prepare and perform a show, and the whole organization is set to that. This is not a social club.




The opening act is in this case a little bit different if you see who is performing as an opening act imo!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on October 15, 2011, 06:26:47 PM
If you invite someone as a special guest to a party, you don't just ignore them, do you!   That would be very bad manners imo.  
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on October 15, 2011, 06:45:28 PM
If you invite someone as a special guest to a party, you don't just ignore them, do you!   That would be very bad manners imo.  

Has Mark ever toured with an opening act? I mean as a solo artist or in DS. Did they ride together on the bus and share hotel rooms? Did they appear on stage together every night?

Well last year he toured with Pieta and Bo and by all accounts they spent a lot of time together and the photos of them together are proof of that!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: MarkB on October 15, 2011, 07:11:26 PM
If Dylan only arrives at the venues shortly before he goes on stage and MK and his band leave before Bob has finished his set then there's no way the two men will be able to meet for a chat, don't think it's anything to do with Bob being rude or showing a lack of respect.
The reason Dylan sent a message to ask Mark to join him on stage last night surely was because Bob was not at the arena before Mark went on stage so he couldn't ask Mark in person. Seems to me as if the schedule of both men makes it impossible for the two to share a chat on the night of a show.

Bob  almost always arrives at the venues just before he is due to take the stage, one funny story that made the papers a few years ago was when the security staff backstage were given firm instructions not to let anyone in to the backstage area unless they had a security pass...needless to say Dylan himself did not have a pass when he arrived and the guard at the stage door wouldn't let him in! Dylan supposedly pleaded "but I'm Bob" but the guard still wouldn't let him in until someone intervened. Apparently Bob was more amused than annoyed.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: naif on October 15, 2011, 07:12:22 PM
Checking the bootlegs from 2009-2010 it wouldn't appear that Mark ever invited his opener, Pieta and Bo, to join him on stage.
I'm glad that 6 shows in Bob has shown Mark a hardy welcome to join him on stage  :) :)
hi arabia! I see your point but we know pieta and mark not the same thing man. we're talking about mark knopfler here not just some musician and opening act. But I have to say it's not our business if mark happy about that who we are?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on October 15, 2011, 07:22:33 PM
If you invite someone as a special guest to a party, you don't just ignore them, do you!   That would be very bad manners imo.  

Absolutely agree. To be honest, the whole "OMG Bob is a legend, if I smile at him and he decides to ignore me that's fine because well he is Bob" thing is starting to annoy me. And for me, all the explanations are lame excuses, sorry. Legend or not, he is a human being and should be aware of the term politeness. Full stop. And sending notes?? That's like emailing a colleague sitting right next to you!
If I was MK, I would be very frustrated the way things seem to turn out.
Bob toured with Paul Simon, which was kind of pointless, too, but at least they played a couple of songs together. I will never forgive Bob for ruining "The Sound Of Silence" but it was a nice gesture anyway. Also, I really liked their duet on "I Walk The Line" (first time I heard this song was on some PaulBob bootleg, thought it was a Dylan tune!).

But maybe I'm wrong and there are still some surprises coming up...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on October 15, 2011, 07:33:30 PM
Isn't it all just a business thing? Both have to bring up less input than usual (Mark 70 instead 120, Bob's set is also slightly shorter, and he gets bigger arenas filled than usual?) I am not sure about this but I think financially it is a very good deal for both of them? For example, MK should be less exhausted after these 30 shows than he would be after 30 of his "usual" shows. Costs and expenses (presale, promotion) for selling out 30 arenas in Europe seemed also to be shared. As Bob asked Mark, I still think it is a mercantile thing in the first place and has no artistic reasons - of course the name has to be a big one (like Mark's is in Europe, others are in the US).

As Guy meant, it was never planned to join the stage together, so we should leave this to them... Maybe there will develop something fine. I am sure both artists would not have any plans before the tour and both would just see how it goes, and maybe then anything could happen...

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on October 15, 2011, 07:35:34 PM
Come one, its not the same to have an unknown or not very known artist as a support act that sell a tour as a "double headed concert" with Mark Knopfler, who sold millions of records with his band Dire Straits and has a very succesful solo career. Its not a support act, both of them have around 70 minutes to play, but Bob goes last, as he
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: arabia on October 15, 2011, 07:36:09 PM
See you in 2012.

I'm thrilled to find AMIT and meet you all but I think I shall take a break here until the Dylan-Knopfler tour is over.

I look forward to yakking about the new album and hopefully the upcoming solo tour in 2012. Bye.

CHEERS! :)

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on October 15, 2011, 07:44:56 PM
Comes a bit surprising? I am sure you will have your reasons. Will you share them with us?

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on October 15, 2011, 07:48:16 PM
What was the reason to delete your questions?   ???
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: MarkB on October 15, 2011, 08:04:44 PM
Come one, its not the same to have an unknown or not very known artist as a support act that sell a tour as a "double headed concert" with Mark Knopfler, who sold millions of records with his band Dire Straits and has a very succesful solo career. Its not a support act, both of them have around 70 minutes to play, but Bob goes last, as he
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ds1984 on October 15, 2011, 08:05:30 PM
We are not inside.
We don't know how all this really happened and how it was really dealed.
Remember we got the info from Guy not Mark himself.
So Guy tells what he see but even him may not be fully aware of the story.
As simple as a private phone call between Mark and Bob would be only known by these two if none talk about.
We are just speculating.



Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on October 15, 2011, 08:07:57 PM
What was the reason to delete your questions?   ???

"Are you talking to me?"  8)

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on October 15, 2011, 08:10:02 PM
We are not inside.
We don't know how all this really happened and how it was really dealed.
Remember we got the info from Guy not Mark himself.
So Guy tells what he see but even him may not be fully aware of the story.
As simple as a private phone call between Mark and Bob would be only known by these two if none talk about.
We are just speculating.




true.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: MarkB on October 15, 2011, 08:11:36 PM
We are not inside.
We don't know how all this really happened and how it was really dealed.
Remember we got the info from Guy not Mark himself.
So Guy tells what he see but even him may not be fully aware of the story.
As simple as a private phone call between Mark and Bob would be only known by these two if none talk about.
We are just speculating.

I agree. With Bob only arriving at the venue shortly before he is due on stage there would be no time for him to speak to Mark on the night of the show. That's almost certainly why Dylan sent a message and I'm sure no offence was intended or taken.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on October 15, 2011, 08:13:39 PM
We are not inside.
We don't know how all this really happened and how it was really dealed.
Remember we got the info from Guy not Mark himself.
So Guy tells what he see but even him may not be fully aware of the story.
As simple as a private phone call between Mark and Bob would be only known by these two if none talk about.
We are just speculating.

I agree. With Bob only arriving at the venue shortly before he is due on stage there would be no time for him to speak to Mark on the night of the show. That's almost certainly why Dylan sent a message and I'm sure no offence was intended or taken.
absolutely. we all know how it is when mark is on his own tour, these guys, i mean mark and bob, they are being kept in a sort of capsule, the show is what counts. all the rest is taken care of by their teams of people.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on October 15, 2011, 08:43:39 PM
Yes, but... its not exactly the same.

Before the tour started, I expected to see some pictures of MK
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: justsayin on October 15, 2011, 08:47:16 PM
There's a story of Dylan being in the recording studio and a fairly high up music biz person giving a lengthy speech about how great Dylan was and all his accomplishments to which Dylan responded by walking past him without a word and getting on an exercise bike.  Nice?  Maybe not, but he's clearly a private person and one who doesn't care for chit chat.  That's his right as it's yours or mine, and I'm sure that's why he usually walks in the door minutes before the show and walks off the stage and into his bus.  There's also no reason to assume ANY bands on the same bill hang out, eat, travel, lodge or socialize together.  From what little I know of the music business that's a bit of a fan fantasy - most especially when the performers are all older guys, bona fide pros of any sort, much less ones with decades of success as both Mark and Bob have had.

If Mark was offended by the "note" or whatever it was, presumably he wouldn't have shown up to play.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on October 15, 2011, 08:47:56 PM
I would hope that both bands, including MK & BD would have some sort of get-together - a meal or a bit of a party, sometime during the tour.  Or will never the twain ever meet?  ???
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on October 15, 2011, 08:50:38 PM
There's a story of Dylan being in the recording studio and a fairly high up music biz person giving a lengthy speech about how great Dylan was and all his accomplishments to which Dylan responded by walking past him without a word and getting on an exercise bike.  Nice?  Maybe not, but he's clearly a private person and one who doesn't care for chit chat.  That's his right as it's yours or mine, and I'm sure that's why he usually walks in the door minutes before the show and walks off the stage and into his bus.  There's also no reason to assume ANY bands on the same bill hang out, eat, travel, lodge or socialize together.  From what little I know of the music business that's a bit of a fan fantasy - most especially when the performers are all older guys, bona fide pros of any sort, much less ones with decades of success as both Mark and Bob have had.

If Mark was offended by the "note" or whatever it was, presumably he wouldn't have shown up to play.

Yes, but back to Guy's diaries.  MK and the band do socialize, in restaurants, etc with others on the tour.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on October 15, 2011, 08:56:08 PM

If Mark was offended by the "note" or whatever it was, presumably he wouldn't have shown up to play.


No way MK
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on October 15, 2011, 09:35:48 PM
MK on stage with Bob courtesy of ER:


http://i53.tinypic.com/rit10p.jpg
 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on October 15, 2011, 09:42:37 PM
MK on stage with Bob courtesy of ER:


http://i53.tinypic.com/rit10p.jpg
 

Great, I hope some audio and/or video recordings surface soon  :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on October 15, 2011, 10:54:11 PM
MK on stage with Bob courtesy of ER:


http://i53.tinypic.com/rit10p.jpg
 
lol, just posted that same pic in the bournemouth thread..
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: BigWheelTurning on October 16, 2011, 10:03:01 AM
If you invite someone as a special guest to a party, you don't just ignore them, do you!   That would be very bad manners imo.  

Absolutely agree. To be honest, the whole "OMG Bob is a legend, if I smile at him and he decides to ignore me that's fine because well he is Bob" thing is starting to annoy me. And for me, all the explanations are lame excuses, sorry. Legend or not, he is a human being and should be aware of the term politeness. Full stop.

Dylan has been living with other people's (often unrealistic) expectations of him since the early '60's- every utterance of his was subjected to intense scrutiny, the protest movement expected his songs to change the world- not just the musical world as they did, but actually change society. At the same time, Dylan faced harsh criticism, often from these same fans when he changed artistic direction-"going electric" at the Newport folk festival in '65 provoked howls of outrage from the folkies who complained he was too loud and they couldn't make out the words (sound familiar?); producing a softer country sound in the late 60's upset those who liked the "classic electric" sound; and as for the gospel tours, that put him beyond the pale for some.
So on the one hand, unrealistically high expectations, on the other criticism if you change- is it any wonder the guy has put up barriers, for his own self preservation if nothing else? And maybe if you've been living behind barriers for so long, it can be difficult to come out from behind them. None of us has had to live with the sort of scrutiny that Dylan lives under. If the people who are on tour with him are happy to cut him some slack so am I.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on October 16, 2011, 11:07:34 AM
If you invite someone as a special guest to a party, you don't just ignore them, do you!   That would be very bad manners imo. 

Absolutely agree. To be honest, the whole "OMG Bob is a legend, if I smile at him and he decides to ignore me that's fine because well he is Bob" thing is starting to annoy me. And for me, all the explanations are lame excuses, sorry. Legend or not, he is a human being and should be aware of the term politeness. Full stop.

Dylan has been living with other people's (often unrealistic) expectations of him since the early '60's- every utterance of his was subjected to intense scrutiny, the protest movement expected his songs to change the world- not just the musical world as they did, but actually change society. At the same time, Dylan faced harsh criticism, often from these same fans when he changed artistic direction-"going electric" at the Newport folk festival in '65 provoked howls of outrage from the folkies who complained he was too loud and they couldn't make out the words (sound familiar?); producing a softer country sound in the late 60's upset those who liked the "classic electric" sound; and as for the gospel tours, that put him beyond the pale for some.
So on the one hand, unrealistically high expectations, on the other criticism if you change- is it any wonder the guy has put up barriers, for his own self preservation if nothing else? And maybe if you've been living behind barriers for so long, it can be difficult to come out from behind them. None of us has had to live with the sort of scrutiny that Dylan lives under. If the people who are on tour with him are happy to cut him some slack so am I.
well said.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on October 16, 2011, 12:20:10 PM
http://www.examiner.com/bob-dylan-in-national/bob-dylan-set-list-bournemouth-international-centre-england-october-14-2011

Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: goldenheart96 on October 16, 2011, 12:28:53 PM
http://www.examiner.com/bob-dylan-in-national/bob-dylan-set-list-bournemouth-international-centre-england-october-14-2011



Interesting they quote a post from our forum  ;D
So, did Bob really play "Blind Willie McTell" - without MK??
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jbaent on October 16, 2011, 12:34:37 PM
http://www.examiner.com/bob-dylan-in-national/bob-dylan-set-list-bournemouth-international-centre-england-october-14-2011



Interesting they quote a post from our forum  ;D
So, did Bob really play "Blind Willie McTell" - without MK??

Bob is Bob

 ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on October 16, 2011, 12:35:03 PM
Also "Knopfler...........then walked off stage"     As though he went off in a huff!   ::)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: joanzimm on October 16, 2011, 01:39:07 PM
Also "Knopfler...........then walked off stage"     As though he went off in a huff!   ::)

LOL....how else is he supposed to get off stage?!!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Rollergirl on October 16, 2011, 01:43:08 PM
Also "Knopfler...........then walked off stage"     As though he went off in a huff!   ::)

LOL....how else is he supposed to get off stage?!!

fly  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: joanzimm on October 16, 2011, 01:47:00 PM
Also "Knopfler...........then walked off stage"     As though he went off in a huff!   ::)

LOL....how else is he supposed to get off stage?!!

fly  ;D

At least he didn't limp off stage :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 16, 2011, 03:36:46 PM
http://www.examiner.com/bob-dylan-in-national/bob-dylan-set-list-bournemouth-international-centre-england-october-14-2011



Interesting they quote a post from our forum  ;D
So, did Bob really play "Blind Willie McTell" - without MK??

Yeah, hopefully Pottel feels this restores some respect for AMIT after the poor setlist showings. :)

One thing all this "interaction" with ER has shown is that AMIT is THE definitive MK forum now. :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Tally on October 16, 2011, 03:42:18 PM

One thing all this "interaction" with ER has shown is that AMIT is THE definitive MK forum now. :)


You mean there are others out there?  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on October 16, 2011, 04:08:29 PM
http://www.examiner.com/bob-dylan-in-national/bob-dylan-set-list-bournemouth-international-centre-england-october-14-2011



Interesting they quote a post from our forum  ;D
So, did Bob really play "Blind Willie McTell" - without MK??

Yeah, hopefully Pottel feels this restores some respect for AMIT after the poor setlist showings. :)

One thing all this "interaction" with ER has shown is that AMIT is THE definitive MK forum now. :)
sure did/does
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Fieneke2 on October 16, 2011, 09:26:03 PM
Also "Knopfler...........then walked off stage"     As though he went off in a huff!   ::)

LOL....how else is he supposed to get off stage?!!

fly  ;D

Haha, yeaaahhh......... flying like tarzan using a liane, meanwhile lifting up Jane who is waiting for him halfway the stage!  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Roflbig.gif)

Uuuhhhh of course I need to be Jane then! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/s83.gif)

Oooohhhhh imagine! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Grinsmiley.gif)

Fieneke
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: twm on October 16, 2011, 10:18:39 PM
Just for your information, the guy who does that Bob Dylan "Examiner" page (Harald Lepidus is his name) gets paid every time someone clicks on one of his pages. What he (overwhelmingly) does is gather bits and bits from here and there on the web and puts together a piece, sometimes without a credit or a link to the original, gives it an intriguing title to attract visitors and sits back and takes the cash. Sometimes, he spreads one of his "stories" over several successive pages to increase his take.  Not uncommonly, he puts two and two together and makes five. For example, he picked up, from John McCusker's website that John would be on the Dylan/Knopfler tour and promptly reported that John McCusker would be the support act to the two of them.  At times, he has had several links on the ER website at a time and I have complained to ER's originator, Karl-Erik, about this. If Mr Lepidus picks up something of interest to Dylan fans on the web, he should simply send the link to ER, as so many others do unselfishly. More recently than my direct complaints to Karl-Eric, there has been a topic on the ER discussion pages about Mr Lepidus and his activities, many of the comments reflecting my own views. Personally, I no longer click the links to the "Examiner" pages and would encourage others to avoid them, too.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on October 16, 2011, 10:42:27 PM
thnx for that twm....
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: twm on November 14, 2011, 11:15:03 AM
With the end of this tour now in sight, I thought I'd mention some information that someone I know has compiled.

After 27 shows, performing 14 or 15 songs per night, Dylan has performed 49 different songs.

Would someone care to work out the statistics for Mark Knopfler's sets?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: superval99 on November 14, 2011, 11:43:27 AM
With the end of this tour now in sight, I thought I'd mention some information that someone I know has compiled.

After 27 shows, performing 14 or 15 songs per night, Dylan has performed 49 different songs.

Would someone care to work out the statistics for Mark Knopfler's sets?

We must bear in mind that Mark's set is only 11 songs and he has played on 15 or 16 of Bob's songs too.   
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pyroaction on November 14, 2011, 12:45:08 PM
Sorry, it's in french but you shall undersand the percentages:
http://www.afmk.net/concert2011/setlist.php (http://www.afmk.net/concert2011/setlist.php)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: twm on November 14, 2011, 01:51:55 PM
In case anyone wonders, my comment was not intended as a criticism of Mark Knopfler but as a comment on the difference between the two performers.

Thanks for the French-compiled statistics.

Out of the 34 different songs performed by Mark over 27 concerts, 16 have been in his own set and 18 have been part of Dylan's set. That statistic, in itself, says something about their different approaches to performing. In reality, of course, the difference is even greater because Mark has not been joining Dylan on-stage for all 27 concerts but only for the more recent shows.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on November 14, 2011, 02:29:11 PM
In case anyone wonders, my comment was not intended as a criticism of Mark Knopfler but as a comment on the difference between the two performers.

Hmm...  Indeed, they are both very different performers in the live arena.  I admire Dylan as an artist but don't really see what he offers to a live audience, unlike MK.  Mark and his band are well into the actual music instrumentally, unlike Bob, and as such it's not so easy to chop and change the set.

Bob has also been touring lately, presumably with the same band so they will know the songs whereas MK hasn't been on the road since July 2010 and with a couple of changes in the line-up.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: arabia on November 14, 2011, 03:19:18 PM
http://thetwinwithin.blogspot.com/2011/11/when-mark-joined-bob-on-stage.html (http://thetwinwithin.blogspot.com/2011/11/when-mark-joined-bob-on-stage.html)

A blog off the ER front page. Handy links to MK-BD youtube clips.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on November 14, 2011, 07:52:39 PM
That's a very nice page indeed!  :o

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: ds1984 on December 12, 2011, 10:42:10 PM
Read on Guy forum :
Q : Guy, since Bob Dylan is touring almost 6 months every year is there any chance you will go on tour with Bob again in the next years... let us say in the USA......?    

A : I cannot comment on this

I guess that there is a chance that we'll see a "Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2012" thread here.



Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: twm on December 13, 2011, 12:40:05 AM
I have said elsewhere that, given how well the two bands and the two crews got on and given the evident respect the main performers showed for one another, there would seem to be a decent prospect of another BD/MK tour - as much as either individual can be predicted at all.

Amongst Dylan collectors, it is understood that he will not be appearing in Britain in 2012, so elsewhere would suggest North America. Frankly, a promoter offered such a combination would jump at it. In my view, it is the different approaches to live shows of these two artists that makes for an interesting evening's entertainment. The "mono-culture vultures" here and on ER will doubtless bleat about it but I, for one, would welcome the opportunity to see these two on the same bill again. Bring it on, I say.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Animalmysoul on December 13, 2011, 05:47:47 AM
but I, for one, would welcome the opportunity to see these two on the same bill again. Bring it on, I say.
Oh yes, i say it too  :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on December 13, 2011, 09:15:05 AM
Sorry, it's in french but you shall undersand the percentages:
http://www.afmk.net/concert2011/setlist.php (http://www.afmk.net/concert2011/setlist.php)
nicely done!
but you cannot mix the "solo" songs with the ones played with bob for this analysis, coz without the Bob songs he has played FAAARRRR less different songs.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on December 13, 2011, 04:11:13 PM
16 different songs, it's not bad for a 11-song setlist.
It's more or less what we usually have for a 15-songsetlist.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jcser on December 15, 2011, 12:29:47 PM
I know I will probably get crucified for saying this, and take into account that I have NEVER been much of a Dylan follower, but on the strength of Guy's comments alone (wherein he talks about the lack of any kind of recognition from Dylan - the 'looking away' at the meeting in the stairwell particularly bothered me), the unquestioning almost-subservience paid to him grates me like I cannot express. I don't care who he is, there is nothing gracious about him, to the point of downright self-entitlement. There are others in the field equally as crucial to the development and promotion of music - and this kind of music in particular - who have always acknowledged the input, cooperation, and musicianship of their cohorts, as well as been welcoming and gracious to their fans. There, I've said it. The bull's-eye is directly over my heart. You may now all take shots.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on December 15, 2011, 02:19:28 PM
I guess Dylan never done himself any favours by his manner toward Marks' band although we don't really know how many opportunities were afforded to him for introductions.  It does make one a little bothered though when Guy is so keen to belittle an artist like Lady Gaga when she seems to come across so well in interviews (not a fan by the way :o) yet gives so much credit to a man who ignores him. :disbelief
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Rollergirl on December 15, 2011, 03:06:52 PM
 ;D

Lady gaga and Bob dylan in the same sentence

 ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dmg on December 15, 2011, 03:13:06 PM
;D

Lady gaga and Bob dylan in the same sentence

 ;D

I absolve myself from everything!  It's Guy, it's Guy!! ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Rollergirl on December 15, 2011, 03:40:46 PM
that's true, I've checked, he said that Lady gaga's support slot was already filled that's why they opened for Bob Dylan.

Which prompted somebody else to say " I don't think we should be talking about Lady gaga's slot, and who should fill it on this forum!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: tunnel85 on December 15, 2011, 05:29:04 PM
that's true, I've checked, he said that Lady gaga's support slot was already filled that's why they opened for Bob Dylan.

Which prompted somebody else to say " I don't think we should be talking about Lady gaga's slot, and who should fill it on this forum!
Question may not be who should fill it but who has not.  ::)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: twm on December 15, 2011, 08:10:02 PM
A few comments on Dylan and others on tour:

1) it is very common for Dylan not to meet members of the other group during a tour, so it's not Mark's band is being singled out. I don't know the reason for this but, from what I hear, it is partly protection (not just in a security sense) and certainly not "personal" in respect of Mark's musicians
2) those who look after Dylan on tour can sometimes be a bit over-zealous in interpreting his wishes. He has been known to ask old friends why they didn't come speak to him, only to be told just how difficult it is to get through the layers of "security".
3) I am not sure just how bad his eyesight is (and maybe that has been resolved now) but he has commented on his own poor eyesight in the past
4) I got a phone call from a friend very recently (admittedly someone reasonably well-connected in the music business) who, in the course of the call, mentioned that he had met Dylan backstage during the most recent tour and, in answer to my question, said he had had a conversation lasting between 4 and 5 minutes.
5) I also know someone who met Dylan backstage at Hammersmith Odeon on a previous tour, along with some people from the publishing world, and said he was not only civil but very pleasant - in fact, quite humble, rather than arrogant (which has been the suggestion in previous post)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on December 15, 2011, 11:40:53 PM
Having listened to Bob on his Theme Time shows, to me there is no question that he is "arrogant" or "rude". He unfortunately just has to have that bubble around him because he is THAT famous.

Paul McCartney, Tom Cruise, and a handful of others have reached that ridiculous level of fame, and they just can't live a "normal" life because of it. It's not being rude, it's just staying sane. How would YOU cope with people coming up to you all day, every day, asking for your autograph, saying "I just wanted to say how much your music means to me"?

Like MK says, fame is a toxic by-product of success. :(
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jcser on December 16, 2011, 03:41:51 AM
I'm not attempting to beat a dead horse here, and I probably can't be induced to modify my opinion, but I was always taught that the proper response to a compliment was "Thank you". It needn't be more than that, and you can then go on your way, but seriously, by this point Dylan is attracting fans I can only imagine are not out-or-their-minds screaming loonies. At any rate, I met Pete Seeger long ago (admittedly a whole different ball of wax, but still an icon in his own right) and he could not have been more gracious to me, a perfect stranger. He spent a deal of time explaining something to do with economics to me (which rather went past me, partially because I was so in awe that he was making a special effort to communicate) and clearly he did not need to. I can quite understand a performer avoiding a fan who is making a scene, but I seem to recall, Mr Duncan, you were a little off-put by Sam Neill being a cramp somewhere you had occasion to run into him. Being super-famous doesn't absolve you of civility.

And twm, good point. I had not taken eyesight, or the lack of it, into account. You could be on to something. However, at point-blank range as they were on the stairwell, surely he could see well enough to know fellow musicians - unless he's never gotten more than a squint at them from across the room. If I hadn't heard my own share of stories about Mr Dylan, I might be inclined to give him a bye. And really, I have no personal interest in him anyway, aside from a handful of songs I happen to like. I do admit being impressed by his voluability on the "No Direction Home" video - which unfortunately I only have on VHS. I thought it an excellent history of music of that era. I do think it would be a very nice gesture on his part, at least, to meet with musicians in his tour. THEY'RE certianly not going to jump all over him.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jcser on December 16, 2011, 03:54:51 AM
http://youtu.be/o8iKJUXGOEI   I hope I don't insult anyone. I've known this song since my coffeehouse days.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: dustyvalentino on December 16, 2011, 08:26:56 AM
I can quite understand a performer avoiding a fan who is making a scene, but I seem to recall, Mr Duncan, you were a little off-put by Sam Neill being a cramp somewhere you had occasion to run into him. Being super-famous doesn't absolve you of civility.

Yes - at an MK gig!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: jcser on December 16, 2011, 09:53:50 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on December 16, 2011, 10:45:09 AM
Having listened to Bob on his Theme Time shows, to me there is no question that he is "arrogant" or "rude". He unfortunately just has to have that bubble around him because he is THAT famous.

Paul McCartney, Tom Cruise, and a handful of others have reached that ridiculous level of fame, and they just can't live a "normal" life because of it. It's not being rude, it's just staying sane. How would YOU cope with people coming up to you all day, every day, asking for your autograph, saying "I just wanted to say how much your music means to me"?

Like MK says, fame is a toxic by-product of success. :(

I totally agree with your post. Bob Dylan is an icon, he is much more than just a star, BUT then again: It was HIM who invited MK & band, not vice versa, and after the first shows it was obvious that it was running well, sold out, good fun, on stage and off stage etc, and therefore a little acknowledgment for Mark AND his band, impersonated by Guy, would have been human. twm listed some reasons, and the idea of bad eyesight was new to me, but quite interesting! :o In fact it would explain a lot of things, just think of the Forever Young clip and the question if Bob was seeing Mark's gesture or not!  I wonder if MK spills the beans about his regular meetings with Bob when he is in the studio with the band, or if he keeps it secret, because he was the chosen one...  ;)

LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: DIFFICULTTOBELIEVE on December 16, 2011, 03:35:01 PM
that's true, I've checked, he said that Lady gaga's support slot was already filled that's why they opened for Bob Dylan.

Which prompted somebody else to say " I don't think we should be talking about Lady gaga's slot, and who should fill it on this forum!

The only people I can think of who might fill Lady GaGa's slot are Stevie Wonder and Roy Orbison.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on December 16, 2011, 04:44:54 PM

I totally agree with your post. Bob Dylan is an icon, he is much more than just a star, BUT then again: It was HIM who invited MK & band, not vice versa, and after the first shows it was obvious that it was running well, sold out, good fun, on stage and off stage etc, and therefore a little acknowledgment for Mark AND his band, impersonated by Guy, would have been human. twm listed some reasons, and the idea of bad eyesight was new to me, but quite interesting! :o In fact it would explain a lot of things, just think of the Forever Young clip and the question if Bob was seeing Mark's gesture or not!  I wonder if MK spills the beans about his regular meetings with Bob when he is in the studio with the band, or if he keeps it secret, because he was the chosen one...  ;)

LE
[/quote] good, interesting question that last one, did mark spill the beans to his band afterwards?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: twm on December 17, 2011, 06:01:52 PM
It would have been difficult for Mark not to have made some comment to his band about Dylan. As for spilling the beans, what beans would there be to spill?

Do you mean things like: what did Dylan say? what did he look like? who else was there?  what was he like? what did you work together on? how long were you with him? what else was said? what did he say about us? and so on and so on? Not the most interesting set of questions to answer, really. Or do you think the band asked him for gossip about Dylan? Surely not.

Mark and Bob had met before and worked together before. I understand that Mark's then management found Dylan a little weird to deal with but, then, Dylan doesn't really operate by anybody else's rules. I know that Mark was disappointed by the way the INFIDELS album turned out and there are some amongst Dylan fans who, based on the out-takes and alternate takes of the songs from the album sessions, would agree, hearing INFIDELS as one of the great lost albums.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Pottel on December 17, 2011, 07:05:56 PM
No I just meant, did he tell ANYTHING?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: twm on December 17, 2011, 09:45:36 PM
Yes, I'd suggest. He could hardly say nothing at all.  How much he said, only he and the band know. The band seem to be reasonably approachable, so perhaps we should ask them the next time paths cross.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: Love Expresso on December 17, 2011, 10:02:46 PM
One hour until show time, in Hannover, Germany:

".....kids alright...?"

"...Hmmm Hmmm..."

"...my twins are into music, too..."

"...yeah, a son of mine is also..."

"...Is he any good...?"

"...no idea, never heard anything from him -
"...how's Lourdes?"

"...Don't know. My wife is named Kitty now..."

"..Ah, I see, blimey how time flies...."

"...Yeah, Bob, hmmm, hmmm...."

sip coffee, both.

"Mark?"

"Huh?"

"Did we meet once in a Hotel in Berlin or was that Neil Young?"

"Can't remember..."

"Hmmm, hmmm...."
 

Outside the door there is some shouting in a strange language.
Bob is wincing.


"Where are we, Mark?"

"Hamburg, Bob..."

"Hmmm, hmmm..  - Hamburg in Germany, Mark?"

"Yeah, Bob.


Bob?

May... I play a little encore at the end tonight, Bob?
I know all the words, I could sing a verse, too!"

"Next time, Mark, next time..."

"Hmmm, Hmmm."
 

...

 ;)


LE
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: twm on December 17, 2011, 11:09:15 PM
You could have transcribed it from a secret recording!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler Tour 2011
Post by: twm on December 19, 2011, 10:18:05 AM
Only tangentially relevant, but the Hammersmith Odeon may be sold:

 HMV posts challenging results, may sell MAMA Group  
HMV sales fell again in the first-half of the company's fiscal year, with losses widening - although technology sales were a highlight. The company is now considering the sale of Hammersmith Apollo and Great Escape owner MAMA Group.  

This comes from a musicbiz service. I hope it is and that the buyer does something about the sticky carpet floors. Also, I've heard that the facilities for the performers are none too good, either. Does anyone know about this?