A Mark In Time
Previous Tours => 2011 Mark Knopfler & Bob Dylan Tour => Topic started by: jbaent on July 20, 2011, 03:26:23 PM
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I just recall about many many many soundboard recordings of Bob Dylan
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I'll wait for Pottel to chip in, but my un-expert understanding is that there are very few soundboard Dylan recordings in modern times (pun intended) ie since Neverending Tour.
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To be perfectly honest, I'm not a fan of the Simfy recordings of the GL tour. I don't think the quality was top notch and the mix was pretty poor overall. There are many, many better audience recordings in recent years that are an easier listen. Of course technically soundboard are better recordings but the mix is an important factor to me.
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To be perfectly honest, I'm not a fan of the Simfy recordings of the GL tour. I don't think the quality was top notch and the mix was pretty poor overall. There are many, many better audience recordings in recent years that are an easier listen. Of course technically soundboard are better recordings but the mix is an important factor to me.
I thought the RAH recording was rather muddy, compared with the others I have, especially Manchester, which I think is wonderful, except for TR, where MK's guitar was a little low in the mix, but overall I am very pleased with them and hope they continue doing the recordings. :)
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To be perfectly honest, I'm not a fan of the Simfy recordings of the GL tour. I don't think the quality was top notch and the mix was pretty poor overall. There are many, many better audience recordings in recent years that are an easier listen. Of course technically soundboard are better recordings but the mix is an important factor to me.
I think there are very few AUD recordings that are better than soundboards (e.g. no bass loss, or certain instruments), I much rather listen to SBDs than AUDs. K2JC or Sailing (1 proper SBD, not counting the Radio FM-mix, which was quite bad imho) tours had almost no SBDs, so I think Simfy is much much better than nothing.
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I thought the audience recording from Mashantucket 2010 was better than any of the Simfy ones personally. Amsterdam 28.06.10 and L.A. 16.04.10 audience were pretty good too.
You're right though that Simfy is better than nothing but it did mean in the last tour that hardly anyone seemed to record the European leg shows. :(
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I thought the audience recording from Mashantucket 2010 was better than any of the Simfy ones personally. Amsterdam 28.06.10 and L.A. 16.04.10 audience were pretty good too.
You're right though that Simfy is better than nothing but it did mean in the last tour that hardly anyone seemed to record the European leg shows. :(
Gotta listen to those, because I just listened to few Simfys from 2010.
At least they could shout their lungs off when not recording (if they didn't fall asleep during the first half ;D )
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I LOVE the simfy recording of Amsterdam June 28-2010! It feels as if I am standing there again when I listen to the music! Since the concert we play that recording in the car, at my mobile phone when I ride on my bicycle to work and after listening again and again, I still love all the songs! :P
I hope they will continue recording the shows! ;D
Fieneke
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I thought the audience recording from Mashantucket 2010 was better than any of the Simfy ones personally. Amsterdam 28.06.10 and L.A. 16.04.10 audience were pretty good too.
You're right though that Simfy is better than nothing but it did mean in the last tour that hardly anyone seemed to record the European leg shows. :(
i did!
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I thought the audience recording from Mashantucket 2010 was better than any of the Simfy ones personally. Amsterdam 28.06.10 and L.A. 16.04.10 audience were pretty good too.
You're right though that Simfy is better than nothing but it did mean in the last tour that hardly anyone seemed to record the European leg shows. :(
Many of them were recorded, but as far as Simfy recordings existed, the audience recordings were not shared. In dimeadozen if you upload a recording that exist oficially, it gets banned, at the knopfler-tk nobody wanted to take any risk as simfy recordings are oficial.
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I thought the audience recording from Mashantucket 2010 was better than any of the Simfy ones personally. Amsterdam 28.06.10 and L.A. 16.04.10 audience were pretty good too.
You're right though that Simfy is better than nothing but it did mean in the last tour that hardly anyone seemed to record the European leg shows. :(
i did!
And you sir will forever be remembered for that by me! Too bad about Bournemouth though. :-\
These audience recordings should be allowed to be uploaded on torrent sites because although they are the same concert (therefore same content) as the Simfy downloads, they are simply not the same actual recordings. There is no reason why the audience ones shouldn't be allowed.
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bournemouth was partially recorded by me (rec. error after HFB until BIA) and shared.
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bournemouth was partially recorded by me (rec. error after HFB until BIA) and shared.
That was before the Bournemouth simfy recording was uploaded, remember that that concert was uploaded after the tour finished, with Manchester, Glasgow and some more dates from UK.
What I dont get is why Dimeadozen didnt ban that recording, maybe nobody discovered it existed legally ;D
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How much are the Simfy recordings?
I hope MK is recorded by 'our' usual suspects and I hope we
Will be able to obtain them:)
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http://simfylive.com/en/artist/3272/live-recordings/Mark-Knopfler.html
Download 14,95
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How much are the Simfy recordings?
I hope MK is recorded by 'our' usual suspects and I hope we
Will be able to obtain them:)
aaah, i already got one MK recording by good old Soomlos, hope he plans to do a show or 30....
also i will do Antwerp and Oberhausen.
Simfy or no Simfy (which i will buy of course)
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I also hope our friends from BD side will help recording. That would be great. We need as many recordings as possible.
Because of the video recording ban and also because of Simfy, I'm afraid many people from our side think there's no need to tape anymore.
So many shows from GL tour were not recorded tour.
Just think it's sad. The technology allows us to tape easily and discretely. :disbelief
Don't get me wrong : I don't blame anyone ;)
I will consider there's no Simfy and no official video recording.
And I will try to record everything possible, just in case, including BD ;) ::)
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Yes any help with Bob recordngs is needed :) I will work on my sources for help
With Mark recordings as this is shaping up to be quite an, dare I say, amazing tour and we
Are still a month a way :lol
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I also hope our friends from BD side will help recording. That would be great. We need as many recordings as possible.
Mmmm, I guess they will only record Dylan
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Imagine that MK and Bob play one or two songs every night, and that songs, every night are different songs...
Imagine harder, after the tour, all that songs are compiled and released in a cd called "Bob Dylan & Mark Knopfler live in concert"
Is it too hard to imagine?
;D
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I also hope our friends from BD side will help recording. That would be great. We need as many recordings as possible.
Mmmm, I guess they will only record Dylan
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I also hope our friends from BD side will help recording. That would be great. We need as many recordings as possible.
Mmmm, I guess they will only record Dylan
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Considering that Dylan has played around a hundred shows a year, every year, for the last more than 20 years, it may be a surprise to some MK fans to learn that almost (but not quite) all have been recorded by someone somewhere along the way. In the 20 years before that, most of Dylan's shows were recorded, too. In the earliest 10 years of his career (the 1960s), far fewer shows, proportionately, were recorded but there is still a good cross-section of his evolving style of performance. A fair number of shows are available, in whole or in part, as line recordings (as opposed to audience recordings), as well. And I haven't even begun to mention small club apperances, interviews, press conferences, radio and TV appearances, his many guest contributions, and so on, let alone the 100 radio shows (each at least an hour long) he did as a DJ. I can't imagine that his shows on this coming tour will escape the efforts of the taping community.
As to whether BD tapers will also tape the MK segments, maybe you should ask nicely.
As to whether there'll be some kind of Dylan/Knopfler bootleg release of a whole concert or more, those who perpetrate such releases won't be able to resist
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Indeed twm, i was able and lucky ennough to collect a great lot of them. I for one will ask all dylan tapers i know to also tape MK.
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Not a surprise twm ;) They do a incredible job !
A bigger surprise is to see many our MK shows were not recorded at all in 2010 (approx. the first week of UK leg and first week american leg).
Not recorded or .... not shared, that's the same issue, it just means not recorded be enough people.
We used to have a huge video taping community and I'm sure many tapers has got discouraged after the video ban.
Not easy to get back to only audio.
I wonder if I would record Mark's part if I was BD fan. ???
Why should I take a risk ?
There's no negative judgment or blame in my thoughts. Only a biased view.
As I said before, our taping habits have severely changed, at least mine. Can't imagine "normal" or open taping anymore.
Band, management, venues has become nervous, suspicious, obsessed about video taping.
Of course there are consequences for audio taping. Still "allowed" but watch you back.