A Mark In Time
Previous Tours => 2011 Mark Knopfler & Bob Dylan Tour => Topic started by: superval99 on October 06, 2011, 06:16:27 PM
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Terry Kilburn on MK.com:
Bob & Mark tour: Important Notice - Photography & Recording
Thursday - 6th October 2011
On the current Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler Tour, photography or recording by any means will not be permitted. Please note, this policy applies to every venue on the tour up to an including Hammersmith on the 21st of November. Please respect Mark and Bob's wishes and enjoy the show.
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stealth recording it will be, or when they announce a simfy like deal i will buy that.
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This either has to do with dear old Bob frame of mind, or there is something special in the works and they don't want to spoil the surprise (to the executives who will try to sell the recordings and video afterwards). Whatever...
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Guy said plenty of surprises... ??? ???
Is that the first one ? >:( ::)
I don't know what they expect but they are making a big mistake. ;)
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its always the same ,very few that mind.Lets see how many are up on youtube in the next day or so.This has never deterred bootleggers
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its always the same ,very few that mind.Lets see how many are up on youtube in the next day or so.This has never deterred bootleggers
Crystal clear !
But now at least bootleggers are free to do either audio or video. These people have decided to set them on the same level. ;)
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it is a typical bob thing. he never wants pics, audio or video.
which does not mean that it is not possible that the mk part of the show will not end up in simfy.
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it is a typical bob thing. he never wants pics, audio or video.
which does not mean that it is not possible that the mk part of the show will not end up in simfy.
OK it's typical bob but I guess he didn't have to ask twice to get the other management's agreement. :o
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Mark has to comply with Bob rules. No discussion allowed.
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Mark has to comply with Bob rules. No discussion allowed.
Sure marks recording / photograph policy is the same,dont think there as a discusion needed?
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I only hope MK doesn't go down this route on his next solo tour. His policies have been becoming more strict as the tours go by.
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Someone take a sketchpad to the concerts and do an artists impression pls.
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:lol :lol :lol
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Perhaps on the next tour, as well as no
filming & photos allowed, maybe, as you enter
The venue, you are issued with a blindfold &
earplugs, so you can't see or hear the gig as well. :lol
Cheers BBB
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Yeah, or maybe no clapping allowed.. or only in an "appropiate and tasteful fashion"...
:disbelief
LE
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And I thought I was weird that I could only enjoy concerts only if I can have my photographic camera with me. As a matter of fact, I also prefer to record concerts, but come to think of this, I rarely have time to listen over and over again to these recordings, while photos are more practical. Still, it is their trade, their job, so they have the watermelon and the knife. (a Greek saying)
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And I thought I was weird that I could only enjoy concerts only if I can have my photographic camera with me. As a matter of fact, I also prefer to record concerts, but come to think of this, I rarely have time to listen over and over again to these recordings, while photos are more practical. Still, it is their trade, their job, so they have the watermelon and the knife. (a Greek saying)
What kind of knife do they have ? Usual six-blade knife ?
I'm glad I only have to cross the street to get an incredible choice of Swiss Army knives.
I've heard there's a stealth one. ;)
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a stealth what? recording??
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Stealth recording ? What are you talking about ? ;)
Only stealth knives.
Still hesitating between the model that has two blades and the model that has only one blade.
Maybe two blades Saturday and one blade Sunday. ::)
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recording? where? where?
Well if it is stealth it is stealth even to our ears. I am a sucker for such recordings as well, but I guess that's what sucker means...
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>>His policies have been becoming more strict as the tours go by.
On the other hand I had the impressions some fan's behaviour became more and more irritating: filming all the time, not applauding in order not to spoil the sound of their recording etc. ...
Generally, in a time where even smartphones allow full HD video recording, it becomes almost impossible to ban recording equipment from a concert so there will be lots of videos, no matter if allowed or not.
Ingo
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This is not a MK policy for this tour but BD policy.
BD being the main artist it is its policy that apply.
This is the way I understant the current situation.
Wait for the next MK tour and see what happens, at least about audio recording.
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This is not a MK policy for this tour but BD policy.
BD being the main artist it is its policy that apply.
This is the way I understant the current situation.
Wait for the next MK tour and see what happens, at least about audio recording.
What I meant was that he may use this as a kind of stepping stone to a higher level security. It's a good excuse to slip it in now at this level and make it easier for us to digest. :-\
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A long standing policy yet photos and excellent recordings always magically appear in Dylan circles, especially on European legs of a tour.
Your boys may need to step it up a bit, that's all. ;D ;D
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A long standing policy yet photos and excellent recordings always magically appear in Dylan circles, especially on European legs of a tour.
Your boys may need to step it up a bit, that's all. ;D ;D
Just have to be a tad more sleekit then folks! ???
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A long standing policy yet photos and excellent recordings always magically appear in Dylan circles, especially on European legs of a tour.
Your boys may need to step it up a bit, that's all. ;D ;D
You obviously never witnessed MK draw his finger of death in middle of a song pointing an unlucky camer at one of his shows. Even altering its own lyrics to give cue for the security where the faulty bastard is standing... ;)
(and Guy promising hard hitting his bottom)
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Dear Arabia, you are right about Old Bob. I guess it is a game he plays in order to make it look hard and to keep everybody happy. After all he has so many unreleased material in his vaults that he doesn't actually have to sing a note in his life, and still provide us with a double CD of new material every 6 months. Even in Greece it is extremely easy to get many bootleged recordings from his never ending tour onward, in affordable prices. On the other hand, MK's fans, usually try to respect MK's wishes (yes witnessing MK pointing his finger is quite a sight :D), no matter how hard it is to not record your favourite artist. :lol . I have a very hard time finding any silver prssed bootlegs of MK in Greece, and that can mean plenty of things, that it is not the time or place to analyze. However, it is easy to find many of MK's recordings. Check it out, if you haven't done it already, by pressing the caricature at the top right corner. And if you have time to spend, well we can start a topic-thread about Dylan, so that we can fully understand and appreciate his work, music, lyrics and (for many of us) voice. ;)
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Well, in 10 years or so when Mark has reached 70's, we will probably also write stuff like "Mark center stage" on the setlist descriptions, because it seems to be totally spectacular then when he moves or walks two or three steps...
LE
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A long standing policy yet photos and excellent recordings always magically appear in Dylan circles, especially on European legs of a tour.
Your boys may need to step it up a bit, that's all. ;D ;D
You obviously never witnessed MK draw his finger of death in middle of a song pointing an unlucky camer at one of his shows. Even altering its own lyrics to give cue for the security where the faulty bastard is standing... ;)
(and Guy promising hard hitting his bottom)
I think since the Kill to Get Crimson Tour in 2008 it is forbidden to record/video tape the concerts, but in the past when people were still allowed to record, Mark sent the security guard away! ........Ooohhh poor guy! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Roflbig.gif)
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Well, in 10 years or so when Mark has reached 70's, we will probably also write stuff like "Mark center stage" on the setlist descriptions, because it seems to be totally spectacular then when he moves or walks two or three steps...
LE
At least you can stop writing 'Mark sitting down' on this tour apparently ;D
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Ever since I can remenber it's been forbidden to photograph/film/record at Dylan shows.
And of every Dylan show there exist photos and recordings, most of 'em have been filmed too ever since small devices have been made available.
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Listening to the Glasgow recordings now. Dang, that's good quality for an audience recording! I'm impressed.
Just finished Sailing To Philadelphia. The outro really is reminiscent of The Long Road from Cal in terms of sound. Lovely.
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By the way, during the final solo in Hill Farmer's Blues, at about 3:40, Mark plays a repeating lick. Is that taken from Sultans? It's very familiar.
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Any possibility to get that recording via megaupload etc? I can
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full speedway at nazareth;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5edlaNvHekk
and brothers in arms with the new les paul;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=legMwFuiTi4
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Any possibility to get that recording via megaupload etc? I can
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Any possibility to get that recording via megaupload etc? I can
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Any possibility to get that recording via megaupload etc? I can
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I think since the Kill to Get Crimson Tour in 2008 it is forbidden to record/video tape the concerts, but in the past when people were still allowed to record, Mark sent the security guard away! ........Ooohhh poor guy! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Roflbig.gif)
Fieneke
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Back in 2008 I was working for a magazine, and I called the gig promoter in Greece, in order to let me pass my photography cameras, lenses and all. I received a cold ironic reply, like tell your boss to call me. I was furious, because I didn't ask for free entrance, just courtesy for a working photographer. They were doing a body search at the entrance, and I was forced to dismantle my camera and split the parts in various positions and 4 people. At last I managed to take pictures, but I couldn't properly record the event, (turns out I was too close to the speakers, in order to take the photos) and the video was crappy as well, since I gave it to a friend of mine that simply didn't care to record. But MK official site stated that it is allowed provided that you don't disturb other viewers. The back side of the ticket clearly stated that it is up to the promoter... No matter MK was pointing at this show as well...
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I think since the Kill to Get Crimson Tour in 2008 it is forbidden to record/video tape the concerts
Video forbidden but audio recording always allowed as pictures most of time (a few exception though like Montreux 2010 for example - venue did not allow any photography).
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You know I really don't get it. I am sure that very few of the people recording an MK concert with a lousy camera or cell phone, will ever care to watch it over and over again. It is just a gimmick, in order to show to their friends the next couple of days, just to show off, "I was there, look the wonders my camera-cell phone performs. " And these people are the vast majority.
The real fans are either purists, down at the gig without any device, just absorbing every note he plays (I saw many metal fans in that concert, came to see a guitar player and pick up some techniques) and then again there are people like me that just can't enjoy a concert if I can't take any pictures.
Any psychologists in the house to explain?
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Taking a picture is to keep a souvenir of the night.
I did it once but it actualy ruined the show for me as I was so aware to get the got spotfor the pic that the music itself was not the most important thing and missed somewhat a great part of the concert.
I don't take my camera since to show because my attention can be so easily detourned that I try to concentrate and focuse on the one and only thing that count for me : MUSIC!
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Perhaps you are right. But for me, it is a vice that has become a habit. I can't seem to enjoy the music if I can't have my camera. Trying to predict any possible moves is sort of a game for street photography that is deep in my brain cells, so I can actually listen to everything while doing the photos. Recording is more of a souvenir for me, even though I can't say that I spend to much time listening to the thousands of MK bootleg recordings. But believe me, I am nothing like the Japanese tourists that come to Athens, hastily going around, and actually seeing Acropolis from the photos they take. (It is just an example, I hope our rising sun friends don't get offended).
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This is just my way to enjoy a concert.
And I really need to concentrate. I remember 2002 with Baloney Again. It was problably the best versions ever performed of that tune but on one of the two nights it wa played I just started to think to something else and when I came back to it it alwas already halfway in Marks solo. I just missed the first half because I had lost concentration and was very upset toward myself about that.
But I know people able to film or taking picture during the show and enjoy the music as well. Whats apply for me does not necessary for others.
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Are there any Bournemouth recordings available anywhere? I'd like to hear Bob and Mark together. (Sound a bit like a couple of comedians; "The Bob and Mark Show".)
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i do believe we will have multiple recordings.
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But I know people able to film or taking picture during the show and enjoy the music as well. Whats apply for me does not necessary for others.
Indeed the show is much more enjoyable when you can film. ;)
Definitely a different feeling. 8)
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Well, in 10 years or so when Mark has reached 70's, we will probably also write stuff like "Mark center stage" on the setlist descriptions, because it seems to be totally spectacular then when he moves or walks two or three steps...
LE
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I LOVE taking pictures at the concerts of Mark and yet I can enjoy his music! ;D
In Amsterdam we don't have seats close to the stage so we have to stand and.......I was lucky enough to stand in front of the stage twice and take pictures. I am always careful that I don't disturb other people and especial because I am so close to the stage I am able to take nice pictures. I love it to watch them now and then, because it brings back good memories! :P Oohhh and since I have my Canon 14x zoom, I can take pics very close of Mark! ;D
In Brighton 2010 we had seats and I was able to take pics as well from row 4 centre, but after the little break some people ran to the stage and .....uuhhh before my hubby knew I was standing there as well and left him sitting on his chair! :o Oohhh well I was in front of Mark that was most important at that moment! ;D
There must be a thread here somewhere were I posted a few of those pictures! ;)
Fieneke