A Mark In Time
Previous Tours => 2011 Mark Knopfler & Bob Dylan Tour => Topic started by: shangri la 1 on October 09, 2011, 11:18:01 PM
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C#4 Manchester
AMIT atendees:-
Superval99, millionaire blues
Set List
Wye Aye Man
Cleaning my gun
Sailing to Philadelphia
Hill farmers blues
Song for Sonny Liston
Privateering
Done with Bonaparte
Haul away
Marbletown
Brothers in arms
So far away
Bob Dylan
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I'll be at the Manchester concert tonight, so I will do my best to send in a set-list and review after the concert, when I'm back in the hotel! :)
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Thanks superval99. We don't have enough people to cover all concerts with set list info YET! so very happy that you are helping us out. Hope you have a Great night!! :)
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Thanks Shangri la 1! :)
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Reading reviews from the shows is always exciting. The diaries by Guy and Richard are nice to read but, unfortunately, often short on the actual shows.
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Glasgow travel is already over :'(
Now it's your turn to enjoy in Manchester.
The band is fantastic ;D ;D
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I'll be at the Manchester concert tonight, so I will do my best to send in a set-list and review after the concert, when I'm back in the hotel! :)
Have fun, Val. Looking forward to your review :-*
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Very Very Likely Setlist for this evening
01 Down to the waterline
02 Lady Writer
03 Tunnel of love (8 min version)
04 Corned Beef City
05 Love Over Gold
06 On Every Street
07 Golden Heart
08 Privateering
09 Silvertown Blues
10 5.15 am
11 So Far from the Clyde
You missed out Badges, Posters, Stickers, T-shirts! Kinda describes what merchandise is available too!
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What!!!??
Why doesn't he ever play Hand in Hand!!
wish I wasn't going now! ;)
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Just to confirm I will send in the 'set-list' for the Bournemouth show when I return home after we leave during the interval on Friday!!!
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Very Very Likely Setlist for this evening
09 Silvertown Blues
10 5.15 am
11 So Far from the Clyde
OMG if only just this part could be real.
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Very Very Likely Setlist for this evening
01 Down to the waterline
02 Lady Writer
03 Tunnel of love (8 min version)
04 Corned Beef City
05 Love Over Gold
06 On Every Street
07 Golden Heart
08 Privateering
09 Silvertown Blues
10 5.15 am
11 So Far from the Clyde
You missed out Badges, Posters, Stickers, T-shirts! Kinda describes what merchandise is available too!
No way this merchandise, only 2 kind of shirts (really boring, only black with yellow Mark Knopfler and a grey one with Mark Knopfler on it). And really NOTHING else
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I thought the shirts were a lot nicer than normal but I don't usually bother buying T-shirts. More discrete and no tour dates on them which I think is pretty stupid.
The poster Dusty bought was unique to the concert we were at in that, although it was similar to the promo posters, it had the date and venue on the top which was cool.
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Very Very Likely Setlist for this evening
01 Down to the waterline
02 Lady Writer
03 Tunnel of love (8 min version)
04 Corned Beef City
05 Love Over Gold
06 On Every Street
07 Golden Heart
08 Privateering
09 Silvertown Blues
10 5.15 am
11 So Far from the Clyde
:lol
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Dear Superval, it's 9.00 pm your time, when I post this and I assume you are still listening to Mark's music! As I told in my mail, you have been in my thoughts a few times today and I am sure with the setlist mentioned in other threads, that you and your husband and all the fans have a WONDERFUL time!
I am looking forward to read your review! ;)
Ingrid how many concerts do you have to go?
Fieneke
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I saw no mention of the "running of the bulls" process this tour, anyone?
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Right. I will have to establish that in Oberhausen at the latest... ;D
LE
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Mark played Brothers in Arms tonight again... I think it's a good idea. It makes the Dylan fans forget all the songs they didn't recognize, and of course, more importantly, it is a brilliant song :)
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Mark played Brothers in Arms tonight again... I think it's a good idea. It makes the Dylan fans forget all the songs they didn't recognize, and of course, more importantly, it is a brilliant song :)
On the new or old Les Paul?
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I'd prefer Sultans instead...
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i'd prefer friggin Camerado, long highway, Gravy train or My claim to fame to Sultans ANY time....
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Thanks knopflerfan. It is much appreciated. :) Hope you enjoy the show.
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If he'd play Sultans... the entire arena will fall down.... and who would care about Dylan? No... too disrepectful...:)
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anyways, anyone back home/hotel yet??
wants setlist....
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Any word yet? :)
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low have we fallen, straight from the ER forum :disbelief:
Why Aye Man
Corned Beef City
Cleaning my gun
Hill's farmer Blues
Privateering
Sultans of swing (doubts about that one...)
Song for Sonny Liston
Marbletown
Brothers in arms
So far Away
:lol
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I had a dream: MK doing a tour with Roger Waters rather than BD...
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huh? that would so not work, imho....
(and i like Roger...even though i idolise dave...)
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low have we fallen, straight from the ER forum :disbelief:
Why Aye Man
Corned Beef City
Cleaning my gun
Hill's farmer Blues
Privateering
Sultans of swing (doubts about that one...)
Song for Sonny Liston
Marbletown
Brothers in arms
So far Away
:lol
If true next will be R&J.
Well insteat of boring Sonny Liston a good version Balooney Again would be fine . Just Mark and Guy. Or GH or GL.
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huh? that would so not work, imho....
(and i like Roger...even though i idolise dave...)
But if Roger would only perform solo material I would be 100% certain not to stay at his set.
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Well instead of boring Sonny Liston a good version Baloney Again would be fine . Just Mark and Guy. Or GH or GL.
I want a Baloney Again - Corn Beef City pairing! ;D
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huh? that would so not work, imho....
(and i like Roger...even though i idolise dave...)
Well, would not be worse than no interaction with BD.
I would live to hear TR next to Shine On, BIA next to WYWH, MFN next to Money :)
And I love *both* Roger and Dave, only both together with their respective strength and weaknesses made it so great...
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huh? that would so not work, imho....
(and i like Roger...even though i idolise dave...)
But if Roger would only perform solo material I would be 100% certain not to stay at his set.
Well, the Pros and Cons is so-so, Radio Kaos is terrible, but Amused to Death is a great masterpiece IMHO. Listen to "What God Wants part III" with Jeff Beck and see (well, listen to) what I'm talking about...
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Well instead of boring Sonny Liston a good version Baloney Again would be fine . Just Mark and Guy. Or GH or GL.
I want a Baloney Again - Corn Beef City pairing! ;D
...lost for words on that one ....lol... :lol
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huh? that would so not work, imho....
(and i like Roger...even though i idolise dave...)
But if Roger would only perform solo material I would be 100% certain not to stay at his set.
Well, the Pros and Cons is so-so, Radio Kaos is terrible, but Amused to Death is a great masterpiece IMHO. Listen to "What God Wants part III" with Jeff Beck and see (well, listen to) what I'm talking about...
[OT]
Done already once - non merci.
Sorry but musically, without Dave, Roger is just nowhere.
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Dear Superval, it's 9.00 pm your time, when I post this and I assume you are still listening to Mark's music! As I told in my mail, you have been in my thoughts a few times today and I am sure with the setlist mentioned in other threads, that you and your husband and all the fans have a WONDERFUL time!
I am looking forward to read your review! ;)
Ingrid how many concerts do you have to go?
Fieneke
Hi Fieneke, I do 4 more, total 5. Next is Antwerp
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Well instead of boring Sonny Liston a good version Baloney Again would be fine . Just Mark and Guy. Or GH or GL.
I want a Baloney Again - Corn Beef City pairing! ;D
The tour with BD would be a great opportunity to bring back to life some songs from Communiqu
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Hey everyone...left early from the gig as did hundreds more cos Bob Dylan was awful..there were a lot of angry long time fans of his slagging Bob off........quite amusing really!!!!
Setlist
Wye Aye Man
Cleaning my gun
STP
HIll farmers
Sonny Liston
Privateering
DWB
The new celtic one (ABsolutely out of this world...brought me to tears)
Marbletown
Brothers
So far away
Knoplfer was in fine form and got a great reception apart of a few dick heads from the DYlan camp......
Mike got a special mention as he is from Manchester and john mccusker looked like he was having the time of his life!!!!!
I felt sorry for Bob tonight....he is really damaging his amazing legacy with these terrible performances....i just hope he calls it a day after London...someone needs to have a quiet word.....great great songwriter and that is how he should be remembererd not a 70 year old on stage barking and howling like a dog!!!!
So proud to be an MK fan tonight as he played so beautifully and articulately and played the music he wants to....not looking back living on hype but looking forward and constantly developing...even though some of crowd were shouting for him to play songs they knew...MK stuck to his guns and delivered brilliance...
Just hope the reviews in the paper reflect the truth about what happened tonight!!!
OK bedtime
xx
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Cheers MB. Glad you had a good night!! :)
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The "new celtic one" is entitled "Haul Away". I've heard the youtube cover of it and it is an absolutely beautiful song...curious if anyone has loaded a better version of it anywhere. Anybody know?
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I don't know if you are a big BD fan MB, or have seen him much before? I have been going to see Bob since 1993, and have seen 21 shows since then, most years, the 21st being at Braehead on Saturday. That was my second MK gig, as I am a fairly new MK fan - my first was Glasgow SECC last year.
From a BD point of view, the last great show I saw, before Saturday was 2003. Before that, I saw good shows in 2000 and 1995. Shows in 2001, 2002, 1998, 1997 and 1993 were mixed to poor. After 2003, I was excited about seeing him again, but saw dissapointing shows in 2005, then a dreadful show in 2005 and decided it was time to pack it in. I saw my first show in 4 years in Edinburgh in 2009, front row. I enjoyed seeing him so close but the performance was pretty poor.
On Saturday night, I was in a very "Dylan" section, but all around me were very respectful during MK's excellent set. I, as a fan of both, loved MK's set - hearing the new songs, and some other favourites such as Hillfarmer and What It Is - and the final two of BIA and a tremendous Speedway left the hall very excited - all fans - the place was very full and most people enjoyed it.
Then Dylan came out - and as a long time fane, who has seen many shows all across the scale, I can tell you that the Braehead performance was a wonder. One of the most fun shows I have seen Dylan perform, and the best "performance" I have seen from him - out in front, muc in hand, playing the showman, performing the songs, acting them in some cases - some terrific phrasing, and great to watch. Tangled, Honest, THC - all superb. The set was tight, no filler, just as Mark's was, and Dylan was animated and loving it. Unless there has been a massive change in a couple of days I wonder if people just judge only by what they like rather than other context? It is what MK fans are accusing some of doing during Mark's set. Dylan band, with the wonderful Sexton, was sparkly and funky - loud for sure - it is a different thing to Mark's band. But full of energy and vim. Stuff like Hard Rain and Hattie were done very well, the encores really bristled. This was punky, spunky stuff with attitude from a guy of 70. The voice is the voice. I have heard it much, much worse than Saturday night. It was rough, but it wasn't mumbled and he was really expressing the lines.
Anyway - just wanted to say "hi" this is a first post for me as a Mark newbie of sorts - and I wanted to put the view of a long time Dylan fan who was knocked out, after a long period of cynicism, by what I saw the other night.
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Thanks for the set MB. No Corned Beef City tonight then?
I have been warned by a family member who is a fan of Dylan's that he is rather unpredictable. One night he can be superb and the next he can be utterly diabolical. It's really a case of getting lucky and catching him on a good night - 'good' that is in the context of Dylan as he is now!
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Hi everyone! Sorry to be so late, but I have just returned to the hotel!
I see that MB has already sent the set-list, so I won't repeat it.
Firstof all I had a lovely surprise - we were sitting next to Isaac and it was really lovely to meet him Again.
Anyway, Mark and the band were fantastic and the two new songs were beautiful - Privateering and Haul Away. I think they will soon become favourites.
Bob was terrible and I couldn't tell one song from another, except when I recognised the odd word, also he was far too LOUD! We resorted to earplugs in the end. I don't think I will bother to see him ever again!
Some people shouted "Get him off" in the middle of Mark's set and I felt so sorry for him, but Mark was dignified as ever and played wonderful guitar. Someone else shouted "Play something we know Mark"!
I will write more tomorrow, but it's 11.35pm now and I am very tired!
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Will that be your only show for this tour superval or are you coming Bournemouth again this year?
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Hi Rolleyway Man, It's my only show, but I would love to have seen Mark and the band again, but as I said, I think once is enough for Bob! :)I'm looking forward now to MK's next tour!
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Fair enoughsky ;). Don't know if you remember but I was known by my real name Mike Child on th MKNews forum - we met briefly at the BIC on the Get Lucky tour. Hopefully see you on the next one...which, with any luck, shouldn't be all that long from now!
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If I'd flown all the way from Australia for a concert and had to listen to 'fans' slagging off the artist they don't like while they perform I'd be seriously p!seed off! :disbelief
Sort of glad I didn't take the adventure now. Of course if the tour comes to Aus that's different.
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Hmm, leaving out the rocky Corned Beef City and Speedway does not seem like progression to me :-\
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Hearing people say things unsupportive of an opening act always distresses me, especially as the headliner in most cases CHOOSES who they want to open for them. 'Fans' can be asses for sure. It will piss me off if I am around any neanderthals yelling thing out at Mark when I go. Then again I'm sure it bothers the band less, as Guy himself said in his blog, it is like old times for them, trying to win over new fans...
re: Dylan, the folks I know who are going to see Bob have been thrilled with the shows thus far, those expecting Bob of a different era will always be let down. I wouldn't be surprised or put off by Dylan 'fans' grumbling in Manchester, pretty sure they did in '66 as well ;)
My hope is that by Hammersmith half the fans will come late for Bob only, half will leave early after Mark and I will be up close with room to bop around all evening in the GA shows ;D ;D ;D
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I wanted to sleep on it before I posted my comments but I
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interesting to see this different views, from both sides.
gonna listen to the dublin BD recording when i get home tonight, to form my own judgement..
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Really surprised some people have been shocked by Dylan's voice.
Its no secret hes very hit and miss now, infact hes struggled with his voice since the 90's!!
I expected the worst but was pleasantly surprised. Sounds like some folk expected Dylan of 1966 or 1975.
I mean I cant believe anyone paid
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Really surprised some people have been shocked by Dylan's voice.
Its no secret hes very hit and miss now, infact hes struggled with his voice since the 90's!!
I expected the worst but was pleasantly surprised. Sounds like some folk expected Dylan of 1966 or 1975.
I mean I cant believe anyone paid
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I wasn't expecting him to be Dylan of the 60's. I'd like to make that clear. I don't think it unreasonable though to expect top level sound and at least to be able to understand a few words.
I won't argue against anybody that says I have been a bit niaeve (sorry if that is spelt incorrectly) as you're clearly correct. I have been, accepting that fact does nothing towards removing the bitter taste from my mouth concerning this show.
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Really surprised some people have been shocked by Dylan's voice.
Its no secret hes very hit and miss now, infact hes struggled with his voice since the 90's!!
I expected the worst but was pleasantly surprised. Sounds like some folk expected Dylan of 1966 or 1975.
I mean I cant believe anyone paid
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Really surprised some people have been shocked by Dylan's voice.
Its no secret hes very hit and miss now, infact hes struggled with his voice since the 90's!!
I expected the worst but was pleasantly surprised. Sounds like some folk expected Dylan of 1966 or 1975.
I mean I cant believe anyone paid
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I'm Glad you're happy with what you've got for your money Tunnel85 but I cannot agree.
The fact is that I am a fan of both these artists. Mark Knopflers set was great, the sound was spot on and the quality was excellent.
Bob Dylan, the headline act here had a dreadful sound, maybe it's because they didn't cater for the lower (or upper for that matter) tier nearest the stage. Usually by providing the sideways facing monitors as they did with Knopfler and every other headline act i've ever seen play there. It matters not. The quality was sub standard. I paid what I consider a premium price for what should have been a premium event and the standard of sound production for the headline act ultimately meant that this was not the case. my critique of Bob Dylans performance is also not my main issue with this overall event. I don't count his performance as a bonus because I paid to see it. Had I paid to see knopfler only and then Dylan turned up out of blue and did an hour then yes, i'd be over the bleedin' moon but he didn't, I paid to see him.
What I think is a fair price to watch Mark Knopfler or Bob Dylan is neither here nor there. As far as I am concerned the service provided did not represent value for money therefore my complaint letter to M.E.N. is in the post. I have other bones of contention with the venue with regards to being 'Torch faced' about 15 times throughout the evening due to mr text in front of me. Something I pointed out to the steward in the interval only to 'torch faced' more frequently once Dylan started and i didn't even see anyone with a phone or camera anywhere near me!
All I wanted to do was go and enjoy this show, I wouldn't have shelled out for it otherwise it is easily the most I have outlayed on a live music show because I thought it would be worth it. For a number of reasons it did not live up to expectation and a number of those reasons I believe were under the control of the event organsers and venue itself. As a consumer I have a right to complain and as such I have excersised that right.
Anyway, It's done. I won't mention anything further about it. I obviously expect more for my hard earned than some people and that is fair enough. Life would be plain boring if we were all the same. ;D
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at least you were able to enjoy Mark Knopfler Straitjacket, for a lotta money yes, but at least you got 50% satisfaction innit?
;D
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Agreed ;D
I'd be happy with half my money back ;)
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Funny that on the previous few MK tours I've always wished they'd turn him up a bit! Sounds like you're turning into Victor Meldrew!
Anyway, the sound in Glasgow#1 was pretty poor where I was standing on Cleaning My Gun and Corned Beef City where MK's guitar was inaudible.
I'm not really a BD fan and only have two of his albums (guess which ones ;D) but I quite enjoyed his set. Nothing special and I wouldn't see him again but there were a few songs that were really pretty good and he was in better voice than I've heard in video clips etc.
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any comments on Things have changed? which i think is the best performed song in his setlist (this year)
and i mean comments from the MK fans, i presume the BD fans love it like i do.
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@Pottel du kommst aus Ratingen, bist du in Oberhausen bei dem Konzert dabei?
I hope MK keeps playing a good show because spending more than 100 Euros on one ticket is very expensive (for a student just like me). If Bob is "singing" like the youtube videos I would rather go. First I laughed but I must admit if it is of this kind I rather cry. :)
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HA HA, Maybe Dmg maybe...
Truth is, I'm a drummer, have been for years, as a result, If anyone needs it turning up, It's usually me. you're spot on about some of the guitar parts needing a bit more wellie but overall, it seemed pretty good for me. the support is always a bit quieter than the headline as a rule. To be expected.
you might be right tho' I did definitely feel a bit 'meldrew' last night.
Interestingly, just got a text off a good friend of mine who said he was a 'bit naughty' at the gig last night, he's got a couple of tracks that didn't turn out too shoddy.
If I can get hold of them, what's the best way to share with you guys?
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@straitjacket: depend, if you are able to create the "track splitted" and to flac converted recording, then you can upload it yourself to sites like dimeadozen, spanish city and Hungercity and the like.
if not, just burn it to a cd/dvd and send it to one of us, we can then handle it with care ....no pun intended :-)
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@snoozle:
korrekt! reihe b block 102 oder so...pl
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Some people shouted "Get him off" in the middle of Mark's set and I felt so sorry for him, but Mark was dignified as ever and played wonderful guitar. Someone else shouted "Play something we know Mark"!
The Dylan only fans better behave themselves during the gigs I attend. Otherwise I do have a vicious wife and am not afraid to use her.
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Six-blade wife?
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Really surprised some people have been shocked by Dylan's voice.
Its no secret hes very hit and miss now, infact hes struggled with his voice since the 90's!!
I expected the worst but was pleasantly surprised. Sounds like some folk expected Dylan of 1966 or 1975.
I mean I cant believe anyone paid
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Six-blade wife?
Good one ;) ;D ;D
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Back home again now - sorry for the short post last night. I'm feeling more alert now!
Last night I was so proud and thankful to be a Knopfler fan. The band and Mark played an amazing set and Mark seemed to be in a very happy and relaxed mood. His voice was very strong and I loved the two new songs! Actually on thinking of Haul Away, it reminded me of a track from one of Liam O'Flynn's albums, possibly from The Given Note (I'll find it when I have time) and it sounded really beautiful! BTW Mark's sound was perfect and, of course, no ear-plugs were needed!
One of the things that stuck in my mind was when Mark thanked Mr Bob for inviting him to tour with him and it sounded so touching, I could have cried! It would have been lovely, therefore, if Bob had also mentioned Mark being on tour with him somewhere in his part of the show, but no such luck - it was as though Mark and the band just never existed!
Anyway at the end of Mark's set there was lots of applause and a standing ovation! I'm sure they were well received!
I think the audience at the MEN was very much more leaning in the Dylan direction! As soon as Dylan entered the stage, the whole arena was on its feet and an altogether more enthusiastic vibe ensued! Regarding running of the bulls - a crowd of people rushed to the rail during the interval, but they were told in no uncertain terms by security that they had to return to their seats, which they did after a lot of argument, but did return later in the show!
It was quite obvious, when the band started to play that the sound was way, way too loud and when Bob began to sing it was ear-splitting! We had brought ear-plugs and so had Isaac and we all used them - I don't intend to get impaired hearing listening to Dylan! lol! I had absolutely no idea what the first few songs were - I couldn't hear the words and even though I wore ear-plugs, the sound was still far too loud! The first song I recognised was Things Have Changed and I did enjoy that one, as well as Simple Twist of Fate and Bob played some nice guitar solo. However, Tangled up in Blue (one of my favourite Bob songs) I didn't recognise at all until nearly the end when I just about made out the title. From then on everything just sounded the same! Same tempo, same key, in fact it might just as well have been the same song throughout the evening!
For the encore LARS and AATWT! By then I felt that some of the guitars in the band were well out of tune and sounded like a lot of crashing wrong notes! AATWT was terrible!
Behind us there were people shouting all the time "Bobby, Bobby, look at me, I'm here!" over and over again! Of course Bobby didn't look at them or, indeed take any notice whatsoever of anyone, including the audience, who he didn't interact with or acknowledge at all!
When we arrived back at the hotel, there were a lot of people there from the concert, who were long-time BD fans and they were irate! One woman said she was gutted, because she couldn't hear him because of the sound and also she didn't like the fact that he stayed behind the organ for too long! The rest also agreed, but interestingly they all said how great Mark's set had been, which was really nice to hear! In fact when we were filing out of the venue, I asked one of the officials if he had enjoyed the show and he said yes, but that Bob's sound was far too loud! He then added that Mark's sound was just about perfect and why couldn't Bob's sound guy's do that too!
For me, I think Bob has a very good band, but the sound has to be right! Mark and Bob's band are chalk and cheese. Mark, is very exposed - he is on his own basically and any even minor mistake is obvious - there is no wall of sound to hide behind as there is in Bob's band!
Anyway, I have given Bob a chance and I doubt very much if I will see him again. Certainly my husband won't see him again - he was pretty much fed up with the whole thing! He thought Bob and the band were a firm of undertakers - because of their dress! LOL!
S. A. B. E. N. A
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S. A. B. E. N. A
Nice review, thank you very much!
Any secret message here, or do I not get it right? ???
LE
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S. A. B. E. N. A
Nice review, thank you very much!
Any secret message here, or do I not get it right? ???
LE
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S. A. B. E. N. A
Nice review, thank you very much!
Any secret message here, or do I not get it right? ???
LE
Used to be aBelgian Airline: Such A Bloody Experience Never Again!
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:lol ;D
You do not exactly encourage me for my Oberhausen gig...
LE
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S. A. B. E. N. A
Nice review, thank you very much!
Any secret message here, or do I not get it right? ???
LE
Used to be aBelgian Airline: Such A Bloody Experience Never Again!
that is so mean of you.... :(
;D
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listening to Things have changed from dublin and boy i know why i love this new performace he started earlier this year, the rythm is devillish.
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S. A. B. E. N. A
Nice review, thank you very much!
Any secret message here, or do I not get it right? ???
LE
Used to be aBelgian Airline: Such A Bloody Experience Never Again!
Ah, thanks for your review anyway!
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BOB DOES NOT SPEAK TO CROWD.
Apart from band intro he simply doesn't.If you realize that in advance you may lessen your disapointment.
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S. A. B. E. N. A
Just like if u were talking about 8.10 in Glasgow ;)
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BOB DOES NOT SPEAK TO CROWD.
Apart from band intro he simply doesn't.If you realize that in advance you may lessen your disapointment.
I wasn't disappointed at all, but I did think he could have mentioned Mark being on tour with him. After all Mark had thanked him for inviting him on his tour. I feel it is just common courtesy to reply. Something like "I'd like to thank Mark for agreeing to join me on my tour". That wouldn't hurt him too much, would it?
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S. A. B. E. N. A
Just like if u were talking about 8.10 in Glasgow ;)
Exactly! ;D
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BOB DOES NOT SPEAK TO CROWD.
Apart from band intro he simply doesn't.If you realize that in advance you may lessen your disapointment.
I wasn't disappointed at all, but I did think he could have mentioned Mark being on tour with him. After all Mark had thanked him for inviting him on his tour. I feel it is just common courtesy to reply. Something like "I'd like to thank Mark for agreeing to join me on my tour". That wouldn't hurt him too much, would it?
To be honest I'd rather he play with Mark than simply mention him.
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BOB DOES NOT SPEAK TO CROWD.
Apart from band intro he simply doesn't.If you realize that in advance you may lessen your disapointment.
I wasn't disappointed at all, but I did think he could have mentioned Mark being on tour with him. After all Mark had thanked him for inviting him on his tour. I feel it is just common courtesy to reply. Something like "I'd like to thank Mark for agreeing to join me on my tour". That wouldn't hurt him too much, would it?
To be honest I'd rather he play with Mark than simply mention him.
An unnanounced apparition on stage. To the surprise of the crowd and Bob himself : "Hello dear, you invited me to open for you but what would you think of performing a duet, now?"
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:lol ;D
You do not exactly encourage me for my Oberhausen gig...
LE
Come on ! It's a great show ! You can't miss it ! "Don't you dare miss it ", it's really an appropriate slogan.
I've done two shows, I have two more coming and I'm gonna try to raise money for that one in Rome.
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Personally, I had a great time and I am not a Dylan fan. The main plus for me was seeing Mark perform with such energy again after such a long time in world weary mode. Anyone who says sitting down doesn't affect his performance is kidding themselves. On most songs anyway. And he also looks like he's having fun on stage. Maybe the fact he's only playing for just over an hour means he doesn't have to pace himself for a 2 hour show? ???
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Perhaps Bob wasn't as bad in Glasgow as he was in Manchester. Read Guy's forum and there are lots of posts saying much the same thing as I have about the Manchester gig. Also people on the MK.com forum. We can't all be wrong!
The main thing for me was that Mark and the band sounded fantastic - nothing else matters, certainly not an old man like Bob, who has hit the buffers! :)
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BOB DOES NOT SPEAK TO CROWD.
Apart from band intro he simply doesn't.If you realize that in advance you may lessen your disapointment.
but he used to, i remember this site that collected "Bob jokes" about all the silly jokes he would blurt out while on stage, and when i listen to some of the 90ies shows, he used to talk there...so what changed??
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BOB DOES NOT SPEAK TO CROWD.
Apart from band intro he simply doesn't.If you realize that in advance you may lessen your disapointment.
but he used to, i remember this site that collected "Bob jokes" about all the silly jokes he would blurt out while on stage, and when i listen to some of the 90ies shows, he used to talk there...so what changed??
He did go through a period of telling daft jokes from the stage a few years ago, and at various stages of his career he was talkative on stage but for the most part he just lets the songs do the talking. I remember an interview from a few years ago when he was asked why he didn't speak to the audience and he said something like he wouldn't know what to say!
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S. A. B. E. N. A
Nice review, thank you very much!
Any secret message here, or do I not get it right? ???
LE
Used to be aBelgian Airline: Such A Bloody Experience Never Again!
OMG VAL, you decent, sweet and lovely lady use words like this? (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/w00t.gif)......................(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Roflbig.gif)
Thank you and also MB and other MK friends and fans of BD for your reviews! I am sorry to hear that many of you didn't enjoy the performance in Manchester! It really is a pity because I know how excited you were and couldn't wait for this concert.
Although having said that, it seems that the quality of the sound and also of the performance of Bob is different every evening. It seems that it was ok Saturday, but very worse yesterday! As usual the performances of Mark are great and I am glad that many fans of BD liked the music of Mark as well. You know we all know the songs of Mark and enjoy almost all of them, but I can imagine that fans of BD who don't know the songs have another opinion. Of course that doesn't mean that they can shout and tell Mark to play something else or shout other things. They should behave and have respect for the artists who are playing! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/band.gif)
Well I am glad to hear that Mark and the guys have energy and fun. Listening to the 3 new songs and all the other wonderful songs, I can't wait for MK's Tour next year!
Quote Banjo99uk: "The Dylan only fans better behave themselves during the gigs I attend. Otherwise I do have a vicious wife and am not afraid to use her."
Haha, you make me laugh out loud! You funny guy, I am sure the Dylan fans will now behave when you and your wife are there! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Roflbig.gif)
Fieneke
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Sailing to Philadelphia from last night. I have to say - Mark's guitar playing on this one is one of the best I have heard on this song for a long time. Inspired playing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imSeyEUnV14&feature=youtu.be
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wait until you HFB from the same night Jarle...
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Thanks for posting that clip !
@Pottel, you make me curious ! Mark's guitar playting is excellent so far and I truly hope as many recordings as possible will be shared
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We have a good chance for many top recordings this time around.
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wait until you HFB from the same night Jarle...
Have you heard a recording of HFB from Manchester Pottel? Yes, it was amazing, I would like to hear that and anything else from that M/C concert, if possible! :)
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I think this reply today on Guy's forum, speaks volumes about Dylan's personality:
....how approachable is mr zimmerman?
Guy: Re. Bob, I smiled at him today, wasn't returned.
A smile in return, doesn't cost a penny - he is just ignorant, that's all! He didn't even have to say anything - just smile! ::)
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I was about to post this statement myself! I find it so cool from Guy to tell us, it shows what a strong character he is, it seems he couldn't care less about Bob or maybe has pitty with him. Guy is really cool,
whereas this Bobness-coolness goes onto my nerves...
He really should be friendly to the people of the other band, at least when someone smiles to him...
LE
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wait until you HFB from the same night Jarle...
Have you heard a recording of HFB from Manchester Pottel? Yes, it was amazing, I would like to hear that and anything else from that M/C concert, if possible! :)
I got a copy from my friend last night, he got the full thing, not too bad, definitely listenable. a few whoops here and there and a bit of crowd noise but overall not bad for something he took on his phone/dictaphone app. there are noticeably a couple of moments where they turned the volume up where there is a little distortion on the tracks but this is very minimal. I'm a total computer nonce but if anyone on here would like me to send them a copy of the cd they can make it available to evryone else online or whatever/however you do it. 8)
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You can't make your mind on just one experience.
You don't know what Bob has in mind at the precise moment and he may not notice that somebody relatively still unknown from him did give him a smile or try to catch his attention.
I mean if this would be repeated everyday with everybody you could deduce that Bob is in constant ombragous mood.
But on a single time, this is just a fact and has to be taken as it, no more no less.
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You can't make your mind on just one experience.
You don't know what Bob has in mind at the precise moment and he may not notice that somebody relatively still unknown from him did give him a smile or try to catch his attention.
I mean if this would be repeated everyday with everybody you could deduce that Bob is in constant ombragous mood.
But on a single time, this is just a fact and has to be taken as it, no more no less.
But the fact is, according to Guy, that Bob is just like that and it isn't the first time! There are NO excuses for his ill-manners! It is called ignorance. He should recognise Mark's band by now, for goodness sake! >:(
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Wether he recognized him or not is irrelevant, when somebody-anybody- smiles at you, you smile back, simple as that.
but like you rightly point out DS, we don't know what was going on in his head at that moment, so we can't judge on that only....
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I think this reply today on Guy's forum, speaks volumes about Dylan's personality:
....how approachable is mr zimmerman?
Guy: Re. Bob, I smiled at him today, wasn't returned.
A smile in return, doesn't cost a penny - he is just ignorant, that's all! He didn't even have to say anything - just smile! ::)
Well, a legend is a legend, and many of them have a "diva" style, Bob looks like one of that kind...
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Well, a legend is a legend, and many of them have a "diva" style, Bob looks like one of that kind...
True, but I have problems with that.
I have often wondered, if MK (or others artists I like) was a "diva", would I still enjoy listening to his music? Would I want to see him live every time he tours?
Does the fact that he seems to be an humble man adds to my appreciation of his work?
Discuss.... ;D
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In reply to my post to Guy re Bob's attitude:
I can't agree...Bob is Bob. He's a living legend and we are all grateful for this opportunity. If he doesn't want to smile at me, cool, he may have seen my camera strap and looked away, can't blame for that, he doesn't even know me. He may never know me....but hey, what the fuck do I know? I'll tell you what I know...I love my job and I'm having a ball.
That's OK then! ::)
Personally, I'm getting a bit tired of hearing this tag "living legend"! What the heck is a legend anyway? :)
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some of you guys really need to get over Dylan. Why does what he does matter atall? He personally invited Mark and his band to open for him, thats a hell of an honour for a guy who doesnt have previous for doing this.
Why is he a legend? thats a question too stupid to even merit a response!
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Just to add. Bobs obviously a weird guy. Joan Baez said hes one of the most complex people shes ever met and he has strange mood changes.
Hes also very reclusive and stand offish, rarely gives any interviews either. So it doesnt surprise me.
It seems very bad mannered, but not much that can be done about it. I certainly wont let that affect my appreciation for his music.
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some of you guys really need to get over Dylan. Why does what he does matter atall? He personally invited Mark and his band to open for him, thats a hell of an honour for a guy who doesnt have previous for doing this.
Why is he a legend? thats a question too stupid to even merit a response!
I didn't say WHY is he a legend. I said WHAT is a legend! IMO it seems to be an excuse to be aloof and stand-offish and, yes, rude! It is a highly overused word these days!
Of course Dylan has invited others to open for him before! What about Leon Russell, earlier in the tour and a whole host of others, Neil Simon, Van Morrison, etc, etc! But I know MK felt it to be a great honour, so I am pleased for him to open for his hero, even though that said hero doesn't seem to want to play with him! ::)
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Just to add. Bobs obviously a weird guy. Joan Baez said hes one of the most complex people shes ever met and he has strange mood changes.
Hes also very reclusive and stand offish, rarely gives any interviews either. So it doesnt surprise me.
It seems very bad mannered, but not much that can be done about it. I certainly wont let that affect my appreciation for his music.
Does anyone so ill mannered deserve such success though when there are so many nice people struggling?
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He personally invited Mark and his band to open for him, thats a hell of an honour for a guy who doesnt have previous for doing this.
Sure it is an honour but could we speculate that this invate was partly to ensure that auditoriums are full...
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If he doesn't want to smile at me, cool, he may have seen my camera strap and looked away, can't blame for that, he doesn't even know me. He may never know me....but hey, what the fuck do I know? I'll tell you what I know...I love my job and I'm having a ball.
Damn ! if even Guy is victim of the recording policy... :o :o :P ::) :disbelief
A bit surrealistic if BD doesn't know who he is.
They are touring together and Guy has been MK's right-hand man since ages.
He must know him. ???
He's not the roadie just hired the day before. ;)
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I'm reading alot of stuff that doesnt quite make sense.
I know hes had support acts, but not many, not in recent years either.
Secondly, to fill auditoriums? err, Dylans been comfortably selling out before now. If you look at the crowds its seems to be attracting a considerably larger number of Dylan fans.
I dont get the bit about having success and being ill mannered when nice people struggle. You get what you work for, hes spent his whole life writing fantastic songs, hes reaped the rewards, thats just how it goes.
Remember nice guys finish last :lol
Apologies Superval, i misread your post.
Like i said, Bobs a weird guy. Hes also old, maybe he didnt see him? :lol
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Secondly, to fill auditoriums? err, Dylans been comfortably selling out before now. If you look at the crowds its seems to be attracting a considerably larger number of Dylan fans.
Like i said, Bobs a weird guy. Hes also old, maybe he didnt see him? :lol
Ok, sorry Spooge. I just remember to read in previous European tours (?) Bob has had difficulties to fill auditoriums. But if it isn
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Secondly, to fill auditoriums? err, Dylans been comfortably selling out before now. If you look at the crowds its seems to be attracting a considerably larger number of Dylan fans.
Like i said, Bobs a weird guy. Hes also old, maybe he didnt see him? :lol
Ok, sorry Spooge. I just remember to read in previous European tours (?) Bob has had difficulties to fill auditoriums. But if it isn
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If Guy did attend Bob part, Bob did not attend MK part so until now we can speculate that Guy remains nearly unknown from Bob.
(who could easily not remember who was that young key player he shared the stage with on one evening of 1986 for a bunch of song)
If Mark was able to meet Bob in private, obviously Guy did not.
Even in closed circle you get some more restricted circle into the circle.
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Apologies Superval, i misread your post.
Apology accepted! :)
BTW If Dylan doesn't know the members of MK's band yet, then he darned well ought to make it his business to get to know them, after all they will be on the road together for 7 weeks! Legend or not! ::)
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Secondly, to fill auditoriums? err, Dylans been comfortably selling out before now. If you look at the crowds its seems to be attracting a considerably larger number of Dylan fans.
Like i said, Bobs a weird guy. Hes also old, maybe he didnt see him? :lol
Ok, sorry Spooge. I just remember to read in previous European tours (?) Bob has had difficulties to fill auditoriums. But if it isn
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he does not "need" to do anything. also what was not entirely clear in Guy's story was whether or not Bob actually "realised" he was being smiled at. we all know this feeling that you say hi to someone on the street, as in, straight in the face sort of, and the other person does not react at all and continues his journey, and when asked about it later it becomes clear that he/she had not noticed the "smile" at all (nor the person smiling),...know what i mean?
We do know Mark and Bob have met already, we also know they HAVE met in between 1986 and this tour, but that counts for Mark only, not his band.
do not forget, it was alan and Pick joining Mark on those 2 bob albums (wel Alan on the second only and Pick on the first)
so he may truly not know Guy.
i think it makes Guy's diary even more interesting.
Now what i AM convinced of, is that Bob knows Richard, as Richard has been on sooooooo many records with soooooo many artists, and we all know that Bob has an extensive record collection and knowledge.
so i wonder if he will ever mention this topic??
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I haven't seen so much concern for who said hi to who, who knows who and who did or didn't smile at me since the last time I was visiting my son's primary school. You people are funny. :lol :lol :lol
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I haven't seen so much concern for who said hi to who, who knows who and who did or didn't smile at me since the last time I was visiting my son's primary school. You people are funny. :lol :lol :lol
Well, as Knopfler fans, we are very used to see how humans MK and all the band members are, in many circunstancies. We are not used to that kind of "stars" like Dylan and his strange behaviours...
;D ;D
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I haven't seen so much concern for who said hi to who, who knows who and who did or didn't smile at me since the last time I was visiting my son's primary school. You people are funny. :lol :lol :lol
now now, this quote by guy did stirr some funny posts over at ER as well right A.?
:-)
i mean, it is as funny as mentioning the position bob is in for every single song during the live setlist, wtf? :-)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMCu4rroV90
thats the difference between mark and bob's personalities. it isn't too hard is it? but different persons and different choices of course.
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Well, as Knopfler fans, we are very used to see how humans MK and all the band members are, in many circunstancies. We are not used to that kind of "stars" like Dylan and his strange behaviours...
;D ;D
Guy is a very polite person. I once met him in the street, he didn't recognize me :o ;) but he answered.
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did he smile back T85? 8)
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did he smile back T85? 8)
I can't say ;)
If I say no or use Guy style answer it would ruin his complain against Bob.
Indeed he did smile back. :)
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Well, as Knopfler fans, we are very used to see how humans MK and all the band members are, in many circunstancies. We are not used to that kind of "stars" like Dylan and his strange behaviours...
;D ;D
That's probably the real issue. As Dylan fans we know he is an odd ecentric old guy and we find it amusing when that freaks other people out.
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One thing to take into consideration about Dylan is he's been in the public eye since his early 20's and he has always been someone who provokes strong reactions.
I have read a lot about him and there are some scary stories about obsessive 'fans' who follow him around(one woman apparently managed to book rooms in hotels he was staying at during one tour using a credit card from his record company), then there was an interviewer who mentioned to Dylan that he met a woman claiming to be Bob's wife in the bar of the hotel he(the journalist) was staying at.
When you read about some of the scary things he has had to deal with it's no surprise if he is very wary (remember also that Mark Chapman also apparently had an obsession with Dylan).
I just think he is a very complicated man-during his US tour earlier this year, a youngster brought a harmonica to the shows, got to the front of the stage and handed it to Bob who signed it and was apparently extremely charming. There are other stories about fans who have met him by chance and were delighted to find him friendly and very shy.
I wouldn't read anything at all into him not returning Guy's smile, as has been said he may not have noticed Guy smiling towards him because Dylan apparently has had bad eyesight for years but refuses to wear contract lenses. One of the most revealing comments I read about Dylan came from Chuck Plotkin who co-produced the Shot Of Love album with Bob. Chuck said that Dylan was someone you could sit and have a beer with and watch sport on the TV and he was concerned with issues that most other people care about but that he was by no means an 'ordinary guy'.
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what did he mean with that last phrase, "no ordinary guy"? did he elaborate on that?
oh then there's also Mark's own comments from back when i was playing on the slow train coming album, about the religious weird stuff and shit...
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what did he mean with that last phrase, "no ordinary guy"? did he elaborate on that?
oh then there's also Mark's own comments from back when i was playing on the slow train coming album, about the religious weird stuff and shit...
I think Plotkin was saying that Dylan's extraordinary talent meant he was not an 'ordinary' person-he gave an example of Bob getting lost driving to the studio even though he had been to the place numerous times before. He also implied some of the musicians were irritated by Bob's eccentric ways(not sure about that though because just about everyone playing on that record had worked with Dylan before and must have known what to expect.)
Knopfler was apparently shocked when he realised that Dylan had converted to Christianity and that all of the songs on the Slow Train Coming album were overtly religious. That would make sense because I don't believe many people realised Dylan had embraced Christianity until the album was released. Bob & Mark also had a disagreement about the final Infidels mix, Mark had to go on tour and wanted to finish the record when he returned but Bob completed it by himself and Knopfler was not happy. Any bad feeling between the two must not have lasted long because didn't Bob guest at a few DS shows a couple of years after Infidels came out.
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what did he mean with that last phrase, "no ordinary guy"? did he elaborate on that?
oh then there's also Mark's own comments from back when i was playing on the slow train coming album, about the religious weird stuff and shit...
I think Plotkin was saying that Dylan's extraordinary talent meant he was not an 'ordinary' person-he gave an example of Bob getting lost driving to the studio even though he had been to the place numerous times before. He also implied some of the musicians were irritated by Bob's eccentric ways(not sure about that though because just about everyone playing on that record had worked with Dylan before and must have known what to expect.)
Knopfler was apparently shocked when he realised that Dylan had converted to Christianity and that all of the songs on the Slow Train Coming album were overtly religious. That would make sense because I don't believe many people realised Dylan had embraced Christianity until the album was released. Bob & Mark also had a disagreement about the final Infidels mix, Mark had to go on tour and wanted to finish the record when he returned but Bob completed it by himself and Knopfler was not happy. Any bad feeling between the two must not have lasted long because didn't Bob guest at a few DS shows a couple of years after Infidels came out.
and they met in the 90ies.
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I haven't seen so much concern for who said hi to who, who knows who and who did or didn't smile at me since the last time I was visiting my son's primary school. You people are funny. :lol :lol :lol
True
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Any bad feeling between the two must not have lasted long because didn't Bob guest at a few DS shows a couple of years after Infidels came out.
Downunder, spring 1986. And Guy was also on stage.
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I found the quote from Chuck Plotkin, it's from a Dylan biography:
" Can you sit down and talk to him...have a beer and watch a football game? Sure. Does he give a damn about a lot of the same things that everyone else seems to give a damn about? From time to time, in certain ways, up to a certain point. Is he a regular guy? No. Why would you want him to be?"
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Any bad feeling between the two must not have lasted long because didn't Bob guest at a few DS shows a couple of years after Infidels came out.
Downunder, spring 1986. And Guy was also on stage.
twice, both bob visiting and performing on a straits show, and vice versa.
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I haven't seen so much concern for who said hi to who, who knows who and who did or didn't smile at me since the last time I was visiting my son's primary school. You people are funny. :lol :lol :lol
Haha Arabia, well it is good and healthy when people laugh, so that is why we not only have discussions and share our opinions, BUT also have a lot of fun here at AMIT! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Roflbig.gif)
Well, a legend is a legend, and many of them have a "diva" style, Bob looks like one of that kind...
True, but I have problems with that.
I have often wondered, if MK (or others artists I like) was a "diva", would I still enjoy listening to his music? Would I want to see him live every time he tours?
Does the fact that he seems to be an humble man adds to my appreciation of his work?
Discuss.... ;D
Rollergirl, that is a good question!.........I admire Mark for his music, for his songwriting, for producing and yeaahhh also because, despite being so famous and rich, Mark still looks like he can be my man next door! :P hhhmmm wouldn't be bad! ;D ......It is great to know that he has a big heart for charity and not everytime calls the newspapers to tell how wonderful he is!
If he would be a nasty man who would treat women like dirt, if he only would be in the news because of acting stupid or because he always would be drunk or using drugs, I sure wouldn't be the fan like I am now! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Grinsmiley.gif)
Btw, I told I admire Mark, but also Guy and the band members seems to me normal guys and I am proud to be a fan of them!
Fieneke
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I don't know who Mark really is in private and don't want to know. I just want to admire him as an artist, and as a personal drug, only his music count.
I like when the sound of his guitar make tilt my brain - like an orgasm!
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I don't know who Mark really is in private and don't want to know. I just want to admire him as an artist, and as a personal drug, only his music count.
you don't really know, that's true, me neither, but he appears to be nice chap. But OK, it wouldn't matter to you.
I am like Fieneke on this one, I don't think his music would have the same effect on me if he appeared (again we wouldn't know for sure) to be a bastard. I would still like it I think but it wouldn't be that intense.
It's probably a girly thing, what do you think?
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I do agree with that, one of the facts that makes I love MK
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I don't know who Mark really is in private and don't want to know. I just want to admire him as an artist, and as a personal drug, only his music count.
you don't really know, that's true, me neither, but he appears to be nice chap. But OK, it wouldn't matter to you.
I am like Fieneke on this one, I don't think his music would have the same effect on me if he appeared (again we wouldn't know for sure) to be a bastard. I would still like it I think but it wouldn't be that intense.
It's probably a girly thing, what do you think?
Not mandatory, I would say, I think I'm not a girly, but:
I had the same thoughts a while back - about if somebody who is a bastard could be able to speak so soft and mellow and write so great tunes and reach me so instantaneous - and I thought, no, he might be stubborn, headstrong and consequent, but no bastard. The same goes for David, but vice versa: I never liked him and thought of him as a somewhat crooked or selfish and wimpy guy who had nothing better to do than complain about the past the whole time and stressing out how great he finds it to be just a little low roller... And I don't like his voice and music, too, so I think there must be something that's true about it. Not that I am biased or anything! :lol
LE
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I do agree with that, one of the facts that makes I love MK
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OK, not a girly thing then! 8)
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I find the "grumpy Bob" thing a bit strange, because on his radio show he is hilarious, outgoing and articulate.
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I find the "grumpy Bob" thing a bit strange, because on his radio show he is hilarious, outgoing and articulate.
way too funny there...
though he also used to crack the most amazing silly jokes onstage, until not too long ago, mostly about his band..
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I find the "grumpy Bob" thing a bit strange, because on his radio show he is hilarious, outgoing and articulate.
Maybe he's got a face for radio :o :o
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:lol :lol :lol
Waterlineman, you made my day (a day that's nearly over...)
LE
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I find the "grumpy Bob" thing a bit strange, because on his radio show he is hilarious, outgoing and articulate.
way too funny there...
though he also used to crack the most amazing silly jokes onstage, until not too long ago, mostly about his band..
In my previous Dylan gig in 1999, he only said "Thank you" once, so no silly jokes at all, and neither in Glasgow, he only "talked" to the audience to introduce the band at the very end, and it was impossible to understand a thing he screamed...
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I find the "grumpy Bob" thing a bit strange, because on his radio show he is hilarious, outgoing and articulate.
But he wouldn't accept any callers! :lol
I don't know who Mark really is in private and don't want to know. I just want to admire him as an artist, and as a personal drug, only his music count.
you don't really know, that's true, me neither, but he appears to be nice chap. But OK, it wouldn't matter to you.
I am like Fieneke on this one, I don't think his music would have the same effect on me if he appeared (again we wouldn't know for sure) to be a bastard. I would still like it I think but it wouldn't be that intense.
It's probably a girly thing, what do you think?
Well, I don't know about girly things, but let me tell you my wife back in the early nineties used to like Guns 'n' roses. I still like a couple of their albums, even though I was always disapproved with their fake revolutionary act. Metallica were bad boys and I lost any respect for them when they sued Napster, but I still like some of their albums, as well. Rage against the machine was a different act altogether, somehow they stood up for their beliefs. But you know the image (either of a tough or glamorous or whatever guy) is very important for artists in order to sell more than the power of the recorded work. Dire straits never really relied on it, so their music must be damn good. ;) Phil Collins on the other hand, had his face on all covers, as if he was a super model. And Sting is going through this phase from time to time. Of course if the music contained was superb I wouldn't have any problem, like the John Lennon or Paul Simon cases. But I can tell you that Madonna did it in order to boost sales of her good album True blue, even Michael Jackson (Bad) or George Michael (freedom). Now there is the other side like Kylie or Jason Donovan. I remember an episode of Fry and Laurie, where Hue goes into a shop and asks with a loud voice for condoms and with a shy voice for the latest Jason Donovan CD. When Stephen Fry says out loud "The new Jason Donovan CD?" Hue says Hush and walks away in shame... :lol :lol :lol
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But he wouldn't accept any callers! :lol
He did! But they were all on line 2. :) The guy is Season 2 (Tim?) who calls to complain that Bob got a record label wrong is hilarious.
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I must have missed that. Maybe it was all staged after all, a comedian in the making :lol