A Mark In Time
Previous Tours => 2011 Mark Knopfler & Bob Dylan Tour => Topic started by: arabia on October 16, 2011, 06:49:25 PM
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How is it that Mark shows such utter disregard to the many who see more than one show this tour?
Folks pay 70 - 80 pounds per show on top of their travel and lodging fees to follow Mark, why is it that he chooses to ignore their presence and play the same show almost every night?
Why does he disregard his fans who collect live recordings by giving them the same show nightly?
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How is it that Mark shows such utter disregard to the many who see more than one show this tour?
Folks pay 70 - 80 pounds per show on top of their travel and lodging fees to follow Mark, why is it that he chooses to ignore their presence and play the same show almost every night?
Why does he disregard his fans who collect live recordings by giving them the same show nightly?
OK, firstly he isn't considering the less than 1 percent of an audience who may be attending multiple shows, he's catering for the thousands who will only see one.
Nobody forces people to see multiple shows, he's been doing the same thing for 30 years so anybody going is likely to know what to expect.
I'm quite certain he doesn't give a fuck about people who collect bootlegs, although he has always had a liberal policy on taping, at least audio.
And quite frankly I'm disgusted by Dylan treating his fans with contempt by playing the same two encores every night, just who does he think he is? ;)
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How is it that Mark shows such utter disregard to the many who see more than one show this tour?
Folks pay 70 - 80 pounds per show on top of their travel and lodging fees to follow Mark, why is it that he chooses to ignore their presence and play the same show almost every night?
Why does he disregard his fans who collect live recordings by giving them the same show nightly?
OK, firstly he isn't considering the less than 1 percent of an audience who may be attending multiple shows, he's catering for the thousands who will only see one.
Nobody forces people to see multiple shows, he's been doing the same thing for 30 years so anybody going is likely to know what to expect.
I'm quite certain he doesn't give a fuck about people who collect bootlegs, although he has always had a liberal policy on taping, at least audio.
And quite frankly I'm disgusted by Dylan treating his fans with contempt by playing the same two encores every night, just who does he think he is? ;)
Dusty has said it all
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I've never paid more than
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It's obviously a set they have found that works, so why change it?
Also, playing the same songs night after night will enable the band to find something in the songs and change and perfect them.
Mark never plays anything he doesn't want to just to please the crowds because he feels he has lost the incentive to play them now.
He's only on stage for a little over an hour and does change his set sometimes:
Bonaparte/A Night In Summer
Why Aye Man/What It Is
Speedway/So Far Away (lol)
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So you believe he 'isn't considering' a segment of his fan base who see multiple shows, and he 'doesn't give a fuck' about those who collect live recordings of his show?
And you are OK with that?
"Mark never plays anything he doesn't want to just to please the crowds because he feels he has lost the incentive to play them now"
So he doesn't play for the pleasure of his fans but does what he wants ie: Mark being Mark?
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So you believe he 'isn't considering' a segment of his fan base who see multiple shows, and he 'doesn't give a fuck' about those who collect live recordings of his show?
And you are OK with that?
I am. He can't please every one so he chooses to please himself, which pleases most people. I am pleased ;D
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So you believe he 'isn't considering' a segment of his fan base who see multiple shows, and he 'doesn't give a fuck' about those who collect live recordings of his show?
And you are OK with that?
I am. He can't please every one so he chooses to please himself, which pleases most people. I am pleased ;D
We can also recognise the songs he is singing at a reasonable volume that doesn't destroy our hearing! ;)
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If Mark is playing songs that he doesn't want to play then he'll get grumpy and stop touring. There is nothing worse for an artist to play something you don't want, and I respect that. His playing and singing is better than in years so why should I complain?
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It's obviously a set they have found that works, so why change it?
Also, playing the same songs night after night will enable the band to find something in the songs and change and perfect them.
Mark never plays anything he doesn't want to just to please the crowds because he feels he has lost the incentive to play them now.
He's only on stage for a little over an hour and does change his set sometimes:
Bonaparte/A Night In Summer
Why Aye Man/What It Is
Speedway/So Far Away (lol)
Add "Haul Away" to the list of songs he is 'not' moving in and out of the setlist
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OK I was just having some fun with you. It is obvious that 'Bob being Bob' in regards to fanatically guarding his privacy and space was a bother to some, so I was just wanting to point out that 'Mark being Mark' was also an ongoing phenomena and that it appears to be accepted by most here. ;D ;D ;D
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OK I was just having some fun with you. It is obvious that 'Bob being Bob' in regards to fanatically guarding his privacy and space was a bother to some, so I was just wanting to point out that 'Mark being Mark' was also an ongoing phenomena and that it appears to be accepted by most here. ;D ;D ;D
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but it was an interesting question, as many here (and on GF forum :-\ )do moan about the setlists being what they are.
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OK I was just having some fun with you. It is obvious that 'Bob being Bob' in regards to fanatically guarding his privacy and space was a bother to some, so I was just wanting to point out that 'Mark being Mark' was also an ongoing phenomena and that it appears to be accepted by most here. ;D ;D ;D
Cheers arabia! ;D ;)
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I'm ok with him not changing the set lists night to night, I'd be more critical that his last 2 tours and this mini one have consisted of the a lot of the same songs. Still that's better than nothing at all.
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I'm ok with him not changing the set lists night to night, I'd be more critical that his last 2 tours and this mini one have consisted of the a lot of the same songs. Still that's better than nothing at all.
It does make collecting bootlegs easier. It didn't take me long to figure out that I only needed one or at most two shows from his previous tours to have a complete collection.
I still remain mystified that an artist with a healthy back catalog of songs would prefer to not play them. :-\
I like what he is playing now, although I would prefer Speedway over So Far Away From Me, and I am only seeing one show so my grumbling is restricted to my interest in collecting recordings of shows.
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He really is a perfectionist, to the point of playing basically identical solos every night. Static sets help that process. Downside is its not as exciting for us hardcore fans. Upside is that he doesn't have "off nights", like someone else we could mention... ;)
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OK I was just having some fun with you. It is obvious that 'Bob being Bob' in regards to fanatically guarding his privacy and space was a bother to some, so I was just wanting to point out that 'Mark being Mark' was also an ongoing phenomena and that it appears to be accepted by most here. ;D ;D ;D
Mmmm, "Mark being Mark" is very, very, VERY positive to the fans because despite the grumpy man he could be in his private life or jelous about his privacy, we know about it and we respect that. Because of that, MK shows himself as a very humble human being when you have the chance to say hello to him, and thats really great for us. The two times I have Mark in front of me, I was the happier man of the world, not only because of "Mark in front of me" but also because the kind and lovely man he was.
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As a sidenote to this..I don't think that anyone here could have possibly predicted that Mark would omit both SOS and R&J off of the setlists. As guy said on his forum..Mark wanted to change things up a bit.
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Hey Arabia long time no see! ;D
LE
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As a sidenote to this..I don't think that anyone here could have possibly predicted that Mark would omit both SOS and R&J off of the setlists. As guy said on his forum..Mark wanted to change things up a bit.
I agree. I think this is the first time since R & J was first performed that it hasn't been played in concert, except for NHB concerts, of course. I felt sure both of these would be played.
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I am encouraging myself by thinking about the fuller MK shows that I can hopefully catch in 2012. :D
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Admit it, arabia, you just can't get enough of us lovely people! ;D
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Admit it, arabia, you just can't get enough of us lovely people! ;D
And you haven
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Didn't someone on this forum present some statistics from the last MK tour that show that he change things around quite a lot more than we tend to think? And that he changed more than 20 % of the songs from the K2GC tour to the GL tour? I remember I was pleased by that the facts were posted here, because I was a bit tired of what I considered as boring and a bit unfair moaning.
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He really is a perfectionist, to the point of playing basically identical solos every night. Static sets help that process. Downside is its not as exciting for us hardcore fans. Upside is that he doesn't have "off nights", like someone else we could mention... ;)
Very true. It is a very valuable attribute of any MK show that it fulfills very high performance standards night after night. The worst MK shows I attended were still great musical experiences, objectively spoken. We are very spoiled with Mark's perfectionism and work ethic.
LE
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OK I was just having some fun with you. It is obvious that 'Bob being Bob' in regards to fanatically guarding his privacy and space was a bother to some, so I was just wanting to point out that 'Mark being Mark' was also an ongoing phenomena and that it appears to be accepted by most here. ;D ;D ;D
ROFL Arabia! ;D ;D ;D
Yup, Bob is Bob and that is why I am not a fan of Bob! ;)
Mark is Mark and that is why I am a fan and admire him for his music and the person he is! ;D
Fieneke
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Admit it, arabia, you just can't get enough of us lovely people! ;D
ROFL Superval! .............. That is funny too! ;D
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As a sidenote to this..I don't think that anyone here could have possibly predicted that Mark would omit both SOS and R&J off of the setlists. As guy said on his forum..Mark wanted to change things up a bit.
Yeah, I really thought the set would be DS heavy. To have no DS at all in Dublin was pretty incredible.
As someone on ER pointed out, pretty funny that people over there expected MK to be playing the hits and Bob to be playing rare stuff, but the opposite happened. :)
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As a sidenote to this..I don't think that anyone here could have possibly predicted that Mark would omit both SOS and R&J off of the setlists. As guy said on his forum..Mark wanted to change things up a bit.
Yeah, I really thought the set would be DS heavy. To have no DS at all in Dublin was pretty incredible.
As someone on ER pointed out, pretty funny that people over there expected MK to be playing the hits and Bob to be playing rare stuff, but the opposite happened. :)
Then... Bob is Mark and Mark is Bob?
:lol :lol :lol
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I don't post very often but read this forum everyday and felt that I needed to comment on this thread. I attended the Nottingham concert this week and have seen Mark on every tour he has done since 1990 (Nhb's). I don't care what he plays as I consider it a privilege to hear him play. We should be grateful that he is continually making new music and touring with a superb band giving us the opportunity to see one of the greatest guitarist and lyricists that ever lived. Please remember that it is impossible to please everyone all of the time but in my opinion he is giving it a good try.
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I don't post very often but read this forum everyday and felt that I needed to comment on this thread. I attended the Nottingham concert this week and have seen Mark on every tour he has done since 1990 (Nhb's). I don't care what he plays as I consider it a privilege to hear him play. We should be grateful that he is continually making new music and touring with a superb band giving us the opportunity to see one of the greatest guitarist and lyricists that ever lived. Please remember that it is impossible to please everyone all of the time but in my opinion he is giving it a good try.
Hi Andy! It took me the last tour to finally understand this! The show I attended was so great that I left the venue and I knew that even when he would do a tour ever again (and that was not too certain a little while after the tour, remember Guy's moving words at the last night) I would be totally satisfied if MK would play the same set again in 2012/2013, as long as he would play it so well and with such a capable band. Since then, my "fandom" got into a new dimension: I am totally happy and aware about the fact that it is a bless for us still to be able to follow him. Now that he has put out such a great tune as Privateering, I am in heaven! So to make a long story short, I agree totally with every single word of your nice post! ;)
LE
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I used to complain about MK only playing two songs from the new album in the two latest tours... I went to a Clapton show last year and he only played one song from his last album, so I guess two is not so bad ;D
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i do not like mark playing safe mode.
there i said it.
then again, on wednesday, i will be in antwerp, and he will play friggin sonny liston, i will wield my arms and sing along. coz i'm a get-a-lifer, innit?
he may well fart over the phone and record it on a dictaphone, and i would still be paying to go watch the maxell CR cassette of that being played (no sound)
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...and send the link to Guy! :lol
LE
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i do not like mark playing safe mode.
there i said it.
then again, on wednesday, i will be in antwerp, and he will play friggin sonny liston, i will wield my arms and sing along. coz i'm a get-a-lifer, innit?
he may well fart over the phone and record it on a dictaphone, and i would still be paying to go watch the maxell CR cassette of that being played (no sound)
Someone close the door, there is a troll knocking!!!!
;D ;D ;D
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I don't post very often but read this forum everyday and felt that I needed to comment on this thread. I attended the Nottingham concert this week and have seen Mark on every tour he has done since 1990 (Nhb's). I don't care what he plays as I consider it a privilege to hear him play. We should be grateful that he is continually making new music and touring with a superb band giving us the opportunity to see one of the greatest guitarist and lyricists that ever lived. Please remember that it is impossible to please everyone all of the time but in my opinion he is giving it a good try.
+1
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It has nothing to do with playing safe or being "in a safe mode", Pottel. You keep saying that all the time, but that doesn't make it more true. Music isn't like that. MK doesn't need to play safe. He does what he does because he choose to. It's like an ideology. And if you watch him closely, you can see that he is consentrating extremely hard when he is performing, so it's not that he makes it easy for himself.
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It has nothing to do with playing safe or being "in a safe mode", Pottel. You keep saying that all the time, but that doesn't make it more true. Music isn't like that. MK doesn't need to play safe. He does what he does because he choose to. It's like an ideology. And if you watch him closely, you can see that he is consentrating extremely hard when he is performing, so it's not that he makes it easy for himself.
agree, partially, but come on, he is MK, he can play in his sleep (his own words) and still outplay 99,5% of all players worldwide (David G. is that 0,5%, with some others like Leo Kottke, Richard Thompson, Ry Cooder etc..)
i am convinced that it is down to his perfectionist nature, nothing else,...isn't there some EC quote about mark rehearsing like a maniac? compared ot EC who apparently doesn't?
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I think that has changed in the last years. Phil Palmer said something similar, but that was back in the OES days. The 1996 tour sounded indeed like MK
rehearsing "like a maniac", but since then I am sure he has scaled that level down a little bit. Two weeks rehearsal to get in a complete live set seems not too much?
LE
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I'm principally a Dylan fan, having attended several dozens of his shows over the last 40+ years, but I have also attended very many DS, NHB and MK concerts, over the last 20+ years. I have also attended three concerts by The Straits this year. To make my perspective clearer, I preferred the NHB and MK concerts to the DS concerts.
When I go to an MK concert, I know that I will get pretty much the same set list night after night, with possibly the odd variation. Over the years, I have got used to this and accept that this is What It Is. Whilst my personal preference would be for more variation in song selection, it's the performer's choice and should always be the performer's choice. The question of bootleggers is irrelevant in this regard because they will record whatever the performer chooses to play, whether the songs be common, uncommon, one-offs, with or without guest musicians or whatever. If MK chooses to keep pretty much to a pre-set set list, so be it. I do find the repetition of the same between-song comments and jokey words somewhat irritating but I don't really attend shows for those anyway.
Dylan also genrally works to a pattern on a tour, albeit a pattern that is less set than Mark's and with a much wider song selection during the course of the tour, pulling in songs from the past almost at random, on occasions. There are, though, two factors to bear in mind when making a comparison between these two artists. First - Dylan tours each and every year and plays more shows in a year than Mark does, so he needs to vary things a bit, almost for his own sanity. Second - Dylan has a much wider choice of self-composed songs on which to draw than Mark has. In addition, Dylan has been known to play a lot of songs he has not himself written, though less frequently in recent times. [There is, incidentally, a book devoted solely to the subject of the songs Dylan has sung but not written - and it runs to a few hundred pages!]
I might add that Dylan does not always play and sing the same song the same way on successive nights, whereas Mark largely does. Neither approach is more valid or invalid than the other; it's just different and we should respect the artist's preference.
The result of this difference of approach to concerts, as I have written elsewhere in this forum, is that MK is consistent but largely predictable, whereas BD is less so.
Though I have only attended one show on this tour so far (with three more to come), I have seen a number of reports from other shows and it is clear that, by and large, Dylan fans consider that Dylan has been more consistent in his performance, from one show to the next, on this tour than some of his previous tours - even with the greater degree of song variation. Generally, if you go to a BD concert, it can be pot luck (terrific one night but disappointing the next) whereas attendance at a MK concert will invariably reveal a well rehearsed, perhaps a touch too slick, concert.
Finally, I'm less sure that MK has the same degree of "work ethic" as BD but maybe that discussion is for another day.
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thnx tem, always like the way you analyse things. now about that last sentence, i am not sure in what direction you wanna take that one? :-)
anyways, did you happen to see the bournemouth show? or did you stay up north for the Glasgow show(s)?
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Personally I would pay whatever to listen to whatever he has to play and think the majority on here agree with me.
Answer this: How can a true fan ever get bored of anything Mark plays? after all he can't play the same lick quite the same as the other night!
I certainly don't get bored having seen numerous shows on his tours night after night.
Perhaps its only the bootleggers that are p*****d off with this arrangement?
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Yup, Bob is Bob and that is why I am not a fan of Bob! ;)
Mark is Mark and that is why I am a fan and admire him for his music and the person he is! ;D
Fieneke
...Music to my ears. ;D
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Consistent, well-rehearsed, slick - sounds fine to me! :)
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May I ask, "Superval", what you would do if MK suddenly started to adopt what I might term "the Dylan approach"? Continue to attend his concerts? Or not bother? I would suggest that you would take the former course of action. This is really the view that Fieneke expressed - that is, go along and try to enjoy whatever MK chooses to do.
To answer your question, Pottel, we did not go to Glasgow shows or any other UK shows so far. Very recently, we moved house to the south of England, after more than 25 years on the border with Scotland, so Bournemouth was very convenient for us. Had the move not taken place, we would have stayed with relatives in the area. However, we couldn't use the tickets for The Straits at City Hall in Newcastle and they were sold on.
As for the work rate of these two artists, I would much rather leave that to another day. I think the answer to that question would be very one-sided anyway. I could provide endless examples of Dylan's prodigious workrate and, even my better half, the real MK fan in this household, thinks MK is basically pretty lazy.
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So you believe he 'isn't considering' a segment of his fan base who see multiple shows, and he 'doesn't give a fuck' about those who collect live recordings of his show?
And you are OK with that?
Speaking for myself definitively yes.
First recorded his shows is only a privilege he grants us and for that we can only be nothing else than 110% thankfull.
Collecting live recordings is our matter not his.
His matter is playing for the plublic in the house and deliver from his point of view the best show he is able to do and the bottom line regarding the setlist choice is "take it or leave it".
If I am bored to death about the lack of change [and actualy I am] I can express my concerns and discuss about it on forums like this one but I know that in the end that this will not change MK minds and wether I accept his choices - wether I won't attend more than one show or even no show at all.
"Mark never plays anything he doesn't want to just to please the crowds because he feels he has lost the incentive to play them now"
So he doesn't play for the pleasure of his fans but does what he wants ie: Mark being Mark?
Yes because then he may not play the mandatory ones with full of passion and thus we may ends with sub-standard versions and think Oh sh!t look how he is tired to play that one.
And Mark is talented enough to think that what he will choose too play will please the crowd he is playing for. Even if it is not the "easiest way".
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May I ask, "Superval", what you would do if MK suddenly started to adopt what I might term "the Dylan approach"? Continue to attend his concerts? Or not bother? I would suggest that you would take the former course of action. This is really the view that Fieneke expressed - that is, go along and try to enjoy whatever MK chooses to do.
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If MK adopted "the Dylan approach" I would still attend his concerts, of course! Why wouldn't I - I love MK's music far too much! We would have more varied concerts, which would be fine, but I don't think the quality would suffer, Mark being Mark! ;) It is hypothetical, anyway! Whatever MK chooses to do is OK with me! :) Btw "slick" is not necessary! ;D
May I ask you the same question, twm! If Bob's concerts became more predictable but consistent in quality, would you still attend, or abandon 40+ years of following Bob? ;)
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May I ask you the same question, twm! If Bob's concerts became more predictable but consistent in quality, would you still attend, or abandon 40+ years of following Bob? ;)
For myself the answer would be I go to one show per year and enjoy it greatly. I'd prefer to continue seeing several a year and enjoy some more than others.
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Earlier, I expressed the view that the performer should perform the songs he or she wants to perform and, to add to my previous opinion, to perform then how he or she wishes to perform them.
In fact, there have been Dylan tours with virtually identical songlists night after night. The first of his concerts I ever attended, way back when, had the same songs every show. I wish I had attended more shows on the tour but to do that was rare then (not to mention the expense for a student). The following year, which I did not attend, the set list was the same each night. Again, not only do I wish I had attended a show (I was headed elsewhere at the time) but wish I had gone to more than one. More than a decade later, he did a tour with an almost identical set of songs each night. That was in the States and I didn't go but I would like to have been there.
My overall point, though, is not that one approach is superior to the other but that artists like Dylan and Knopfler evolve and develop. That's how they stay relevant. And that's how they keep interested in what they're doing. And that's why we stay involved in their music and their (for want of a better word) careers.
That's the long answer. The short answer is "Yes".
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Yup, Bob is Bob and that is why I am not a fan of Bob! ;)
Mark is Mark and that is why I am a fan and admire him for his music and the person he is! ;D
Fieneke
...Music to my ears. ;D
ROFL Geordieboy thank you! ;D
Twm, I wasn
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What a beautiful story Fieneke!
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What a beautiful story Fieneke!
Yes, don't you just love her? :D
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As a sidenote to this..I don't think that anyone here could have possibly predicted that Mark would omit both SOS and R&J off of the setlists. As guy said on his forum..Mark wanted to change things up a bit.
True; I was expecting to see R&J, but he has omitted this song. Possibly a duet later on in the tour :)
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As a sidenote to this..I don't think that anyone here could have possibly predicted that Mark would omit both SOS and R&J off of the setlists. As guy said on his forum..Mark wanted to change things up a bit.
True; I was expecting to see R&J, but he has omitted this song. Possibly a duet later on in the tour :)
NO, PLEASE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
:o :o :o
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As a sidenote to this..I don't think that anyone here could have possibly predicted that Mark would omit both SOS and R&J off of the setlists. As guy said on his forum..Mark wanted to change things up a bit.
True; I was expecting to see R&J, but he has omitted this song. Possibly a duet later on in the tour :)
NO, PLEASE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
:o :o :o
Yeeeaahh...ummm..definitely a resounding NO on that one..having a difficult time coping with the image of Mark leering in Bob's direction as he sings.."you and me babe..how bout it?" eew eew eew :-X
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But Mark loves Bob ;D
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That must be the most interesting topic, after the new album spring - surprise. I see several patterns of thought, but I can't understand why nobody stated the obvious: attending a concert is a full experience. You participate in it body and soul. Recordings are somehow a lesser experience, a predictable experience that comes from actually remembering the music, after a couple of spins. The live act offers excitement because it is unique, one of a kind, that even great video and exceptional recordings can not replace. In a way, the first time you see a video it is close to the original experience of being at a concert. You don't know what to expect. Of course that could be said for the times before the Internet, where you can see over 200 versions of each MK composition and if they come from the same tour, most likely they will share great similarities. (I think that he even wears the same shirt over and over again :lol ) I enjoyed Alchemy very much for that reason. On the night was not that sweet. I have already heard a live from Basel over the radio, 3 years before the official release and have found several bootlegs.
Christopher Small, used to say that the recorded music is not really a music experience between the artist and the listener, since you learn the music by heart, scribbled in your mind and when you play the record again, it is more of an aid, you actually "play" the record in your mind. Todd Rundgren said in a very interesting interview that musicians should not complain about the profits lost from illegal downloading, instead go out on the road and make money by playing live, because that is what musicians are about.
About the repetitiveness, I can not complain, because even though I collect bootlegs, I have given up listening carefully to notice differences, in an attempt to enjoy the music as a unique live experience. I do not cross the line of asking "why play the same list over and over" because I have to wonder then how sane I am. And the answer for a fan is bitter. In order to be a fan, you have to lose sanity. I mean who would waste so much time talking for MK's set-list, when the world is falling apart? Who would collect 2000 bootleg CDs (not me) when the time he has is so little to even listen to them once each? I was lucky to see him once, and I guess if the comes again I would go to see him again. But to expect from him to play what I want, is a peculiar thought that can only cross a fans mind, because his/her attachment with the artist, the long hours spent for the loved musician affects the mind, that thinks it has rights upon the artist.
As for dear old Bob, hats off, for still playing big venues all over the world, and more to his musicians that have to put up with different set lists every night. Nobody gets bored and they can claim to have a genuine feeling as street musicians, enjoying the unexpected just like their audience. (Yes they do rehearsals, but most likely they rehears patterns and not songs).
As for the fans and bootleggers, we are a crazy gang. The more time spend on MK the less we have for other things. If that fulfill us it is OK, if not maybe we should try listening to Mozart. He is not around to bother us with tours and bootlegs.
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But to expect from him to play what I want, is a peculiar thought that can only cross a fans mind, because his/her attachment with the artist, the long hours spent for the loved musician affects the mind, that thinks it has rights upon the artist.
Thank you for posting this..I for one feel that I don't have the right to say what Mark should play...after all..it is his art..not mine. I'm just along for the ride.
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But to expect from him to play what I want, is a peculiar thought that can only cross a fans mind, because his/her attachment with the artist, the long hours spent for the loved musician affects the mind, that thinks it has rights upon the artist.
Thank you for posting this..I for one feel that I don't have the right to say what Mark should play...after all..it is his art..not mine. I'm just along for the ride.
Thank you for your kind post. Funny you should chose this very sentence to quote me. :)
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set lists are like babies
When you have 3 boys, are pregnant with your 4th baby, you are hoping for a girl this time, for a change. You go for a scan and they tell you it's another boy. You feel depressed, OMG a boy AGAIN! This is so unfair.
And then the baby is born and it turns out you love him just as much, and a 4th boy is great, you wouldn't want it any other way.
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set lists are like babies
When you have 3 boys, are pregnant with your 4th baby, you are hoping for a girl this time, for a change. You go for a scan and they tell you it's another boy. You feel depressed, OMG a boy AGAIN! This is so unfair.
And then the baby is born and it turns out you love him just as much, and a 4th boy is great, you wouldn't want it any other way.
Nice one Rollergirl. A true story? Do they know you have a grunge with boys? ;D I know a similar one with girls ;D
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probably a true story, but not mine
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My neighbor has 4 boys - no girl.
I didn't know she was a huge MK fan.
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My wife and I had three boys, the next time she was preganant we REALLY wanted a girl, and we got one!! See a set change! We were so happy, no wonder I'm a Dylan fan. :lol :lol
(encore was 4th boy) ;)
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Mark's trying to build a football team! :lol
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Mark's trying to build a football team! :lol
I'm very pleased he doesn't like golf ;D
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What a beautiful story Fieneke!
Yes, don't you just love her? :D
LOL Thank you Lars and Mossguitar! ;D
Thank you for your story VGONIS2002! ;)
set lists are like babies
When you have 3 boys, are pregnant with your 4th baby, you are hoping for a girl this time, for a change. You go for a scan and they tell you it's another boy. You feel depressed, OMG a boy AGAIN! This is so unfair. And then the baby is born and it turns out you love him just as much, and a 4th boy is great, you wouldn't want it any other way.
Hey Rollergirl you made me laugh with your crazy message, BUT.....you hit the nail on the head! ;D This is what it is about, sometimes people like to hear other songs, BUT when the concert is finished, almost all of them tells it was wonderful and they are satisfied! :P
Fieneke
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Fieneke, thank you for your kind words. I must say that you must be one of the very few people :'( that take the time to both write long posts and read the long posts sent from others. I love longer posts, so that I can understand deeper meanings and feelings and in a way meet the otherwise unknown fellow - fan- friend. And it is way more important than sharing names. That only deserves an extra thank you. :)
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I'm having such a great time on this forum. Everybody is so kind and everybody loves MK and the band in what they do, making great music and creating milestones in peoples lives. It makes me so happy! Everytime I come home from school in the afternoon the first site I check is this, reading all those beautiful stories from people who feel the same as I do. (I think). I just love to read stories for instance, like Fieneke's story in this topic. This is such a nice place to share your thoughts and feelings about music and MK because everybody respects each other. If your english is not so good? Why would we care:D If your story is nice e.g than it's allright. I'm very glad that I'm a member of this forum and I will reccomend this forum to every MK fan in the world!
Thank you all.
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Very nice and moving post, Lars! You are absolutely right, and it's the same here, apart from the fact that it is more than 20 years ago that I came home from any school... :lol
LE
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I'm having such a great time on this forum. Everybody is so kind and everybody loves MK and the band in what they do, making great music and creating milestones in peoples lives. It makes me so happy! Everytime I come home from school in the afternoon the first site I check is this, reading all those beautiful stories from people who feel the same as I do. (I think). I just love to read stories for instance, like Fieneke's story in this topic. This is such a nice place to share your thoughts and feelings about music and MK because everybody respects each other. If your english is not so good? Why would we care:D If your story is nice e.g than it's allright. I'm very glad that I'm a member of this forum and I will reccomend this forum to every MK fan in the world!
Thank you all.
Thank you Lars for your sensitive emotional post. It is true that personal relations are hard to get nowadays and AMIT is a good imitator, but enjoy life out of it as well. Out there is the truth. Here you only see signs of truth. But in a moderate manner it is an OK way to socialize. And if you wonder about me, I am coming back from school every day, along with my older daughter. ;) But actually I feel younger than I am, and I am not half as old as dear old Bob, even though I hope to stay forever young.
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Thank you VGONIS2002 and Lars for your kind words! ;D
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Go Mrs. Fineke. ;D
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We all feel the same about it I can say after reading these posts!:) And school... You get you used to it haha ;D
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We all feel the same about it I can say after reading these posts!:) And school... You get you used to it haha
Now its time to attend some shows Lars! Next tour you MUST come along with us!
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Next tour I will be there. The only reason that i'm not coming is that you hear that a plane has driven over me! ;D I hope that is not going to happen so i'll be there!