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Title: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on November 08, 2011, 10:01:37 PM
Mark has recorded the song Restless Farewell which will be featured on the forth-coming Amnesty International tribute album Chimes of Freedom: Songs of Bob Dylan Honoring 50 Years of Amnesty International. The album will be released on the 24th of January 2012 in North America and the rest of the world on the 30th of January.

Cheers. BBB
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: arabia on November 09, 2011, 07:49:31 AM
I bet Mark could do a great job with it.A wonderful song, which Dylan has only done twice live as far as I know. Once for this 80th birthday TV show for Frank Sinatra and then again in LA at a Dylan concert the night after Sinatra died.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p2HOU82KxM&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p2HOU82KxM&feature=related)
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Pottel on November 09, 2011, 02:08:35 PM
did he say "happy birthday mr. Frank"? at the end? and did Frank hardly flinch? bet the Bob fans were upset back in the days, coz of the lack of respect from the old man :-)
all so recognisable....
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: twm on November 10, 2011, 01:38:56 AM
I don't know whether you count this as "live" but Dylan did on a Canadian TV show back in early 1964. It is also believed that he sang the song at his first London concert in May 1964, which I did not attend, saving my money in my poorer student days to see Muddy Waters top a multi-artist bill that included Sister Rosetta Tharpe amongst others.

Anyway, Dylan may have sung "Restless Farewell" in that period at other concerts for which we lack the details but we are pretty certain that he never did it again from 1965 until the Sinatra tribute, when he performed it apparently at Sinatra's request.  In a way, I was more surprised that Sinatra knew the song at all than anything else, even Bob referring to him (affectionately not disrespectfully) as "Mr Frank". Some have speculated that it is final verse of the song that attracted Mr "My Way" Frank to Mr Bob's song:-

Oh a false clock tries to tick out my time
To disgrace, distract, and bother me
And the dirt of gossip blows into my face
And the dust of rumors covers me
But if the arrow is straight
And the point is slick
It can pierce through dust no matter how thick
So I
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: vgonis on November 10, 2011, 07:29:18 AM
What a nice song! Bob's stock has gone up, for Amnesty to decide to dedicate an album. Good for everybody! But where do you get all these info?
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Love Expresso on November 10, 2011, 07:50:06 AM
  It is also believed that he sang the song at his first London concert in May 1964, which I did not attend, saving my money in my poorer student days to see Muddy Waters top a multi-artist bill that included Sister Rosetta Tharpe amongst others.


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Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: twm on November 10, 2011, 10:16:04 AM
To add to my previous post, the author of a recent Bob Dylan biography attended a December 1963 concert in Washington DC, made fairly detailed notes and says Dylan sang "Restless Farewell" at this concert.

Just to move things aside slightly, I have one newspaper review of this Washington concert. It does not mention many song titles and "Restless Farewell" is not mentioned. However, this review does contain the following section:

Dylan's singing voice is hoarse and nasal. His guitar technique is elementary. His respiratory harmonica style .... , while distinctive, is hardly entrancing.

I mention this in the light of comments about Dylan's current voice elsewhere on this site and my response that I have been hearing this criticism for what seems like all my life.
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: vgonis on November 10, 2011, 05:55:34 PM
To add to my previous post, the author of a recent Bob Dylan biography attended a December 1963 concert in Washington DC, made fairly detailed notes and says Dylan sang "Restless Farewell" at this concert.

Just to move things aside slightly, I have one newspaper review of this Washington concert. It does not mention many song titles and "Restless Farewell" is not mentioned. However, this review does contain the following section:

Dylan's singing voice is hoarse and nasal. His guitar technique is elementary. His respiratory harmonica style .... , while distinctive, is hardly entrancing.

I mention this in the light of comments about Dylan's current voice elsewhere on this site and my response that I have been hearing this criticism for what seems like all my life.

Convincing the unbelievers (half heartedly I admit being one of them, even though I can still bare his voice) is very hard, especially when you produce such "evidence". OK so he always had a nasty voice.  ;D  Thanks for giving weapons to the opposition!
But it was not so gravely back then, and maybe the youth enthusiasm in it, gave it the necessary quality to be at least acceptable, after all he was considered as the voice of his generation- a title he denounced - some biographers claim for fear of his life. Anyway there are too many changes in his voice now - proof I loved his voice back then I can hardly take it now- and since I have already admitted that Bob's voice is the most fitting for his songs, there, I have covered all bases.   
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: twm on November 11, 2011, 02:31:16 AM
The May 1964 concert I mentioned was The American Folk Blues & Gospel Caravan. The following sentence comes from the Wikipedia entry on British rhythm 'n' blues : In 1964 the American Folk Blues and Gospel Caravan arrived in the UK for a 11-date tour, including in its line-up Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Blind Gary Davis, Sonny Terry, Muddy Waters and Otis Spann. The original dates sold out rapidly and six more had to be added..

The bill also included Willie Dixon and Cousin Joe Pleasant. The whole thing generated a TV programme made at Chorlton railway station just outside Manchester. There are a few clips here:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Granada+Blues+Train&aq=f

I saw this concert in what was then called the Hammersmith Odeon and is the very same venue, now renamed, that Bob and Mark will play in London later in November.

Incidentally, the tour manager for the blues and gospel caravan shows was Joe Boyd, who went on to become a record producer, working with Nick Drake, Fairport Convention, the Incredible String Band and even Pink Floyd (on their Arnold Layne single). Prior even to his coming to Britain on that blues and gospel tour, Joe Boyd was around the Boston folk scene and, among other things, ran a record importing business. He was the person who imported the London-recorded album "Dick Farina and Eric von Schmidt" to the States, an album on which Mr Bob (in the guise of Blind Boy Grunt) makes a brief appearance.


Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: twm on November 11, 2011, 11:56:41 AM
Entirely by coincidence, this popped up on my computer this morning:

http://macarthur-chronicle-camden.whereilive.com.au/lifestyle/story/joe-boyd-and-robyn-hitchcock-concert-review/

Now, you're going to tell me this is all made up but the following is entirely true. Almost two weeks ago, we had a P J Harvey weekend. We went to her Royal Albert Hall concert on the Sunday and, on the Monday, we went to see a preview of Michael Sheen in "Hamlet", for which P J Harvey provided some of the music. Anyway, on the way back to our hotel from the play by tube, we sat discussing the performance and rose to get off. As I did so, I noticed someone a couple of seats away and turned to him and asked, "Excuse me, you are Robyn Hitchcock, aren't you?". And it was indeed "he".
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Pottel on November 11, 2011, 06:51:53 PM
i believe Joe Boyd was even Floyd's manager in the beginning, but i could be wrong of course.
TWM at a PJ show, impressive!
by the way, when you write:
"even Bob referring to him (affectionately not disrespectfully) as "Mr Frank". "
do you refer to my earlier post? if so then i am being misunderstood...
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: twm on November 11, 2011, 10:01:01 PM
PJ Harvey: why does that surprise you? Admittedly, we've never seen her perfom live before but we were invited and we could have turned down the invitation. As it happens, we enjoyed it and ourselves immensely. The style of her presentation bore similarities to a concert by "Mr Bob": stage in darkness between songs; no words for the audience between songs; a simple "Thank you" and band introductions at the end. Mostly, it was built around LET ENGLAND SHAKE but she also performed some older songs (such as "Down By the Water", which I always call "the blue-eyed girl" song, and "The Desperate Kingdom of Love").

I have not really followed her career closely but I was passed a couple of her CDs by a friend in the music business in continental Europe. I must get them out and play them again some time. I was first aware of her about 20 years ago when she did a Bob Dylan cover ("Highway 61 Revisited") and, as a result of that, became friendly with someone who does follow her career closely.

The temporal proximity of Michael Sheen's "Hamlet" performance was a coincidence. We had planned to attend that anyway. In fact, as it was a preview performance (regular performances started this week, I think), we had to book tickets long ago. Previews are also a bit cheaper than the regular shows, so it is worth the effort and the wait..

Sinatra: the bit in parentheses about "Mr Frank" was merely to avoid misunderstanding on anyone's part.

Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: vgonis on November 12, 2011, 11:26:36 AM
P.J. Harvey is a blues singer under cover. Maybe the adaptation of contemporary music forms , hide the pathos she expresses when she sings (plus the core of her lyrics) that is soaked in similar to the great blues men pain. The closer she got to this form in her recorded work, was the record "to bring you my love".Even though I am somehow disappointed in her, due to an extra small performance in Athens (less than 45 minutes!) actually playing only the , then, new record Huh-huh,
I do recommend most of her records. She surely has a better voice than dear old Bob.
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Maxx on November 12, 2011, 11:32:18 AM
Not everyday we'll have Mark Knopfler on an album with Miley Cyrus and Kesha.
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: vgonis on November 12, 2011, 11:56:20 AM
So the record is already out for sale? Where did you get the info?

Not everyday we'll have Mark Knopfler on an album with Miley Cyrus and Kesha.
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Pottel on November 12, 2011, 12:42:38 PM
saw her live at the werchter festival (or Pukkelpop Festival) in belgium some years ago, always liked her work.
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Maxx on November 12, 2011, 01:22:18 PM

Not everyday we'll have Mark Knopfler on an album with Miley Cyrus and Kesha.

So the record is already out for sale? Where did you get the info?


Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimes_of_Freedom:_Songs_of_Bob_Dylan_Honoring_50_Years_of_Amnesty_International)
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: vgonis on November 12, 2011, 01:30:23 PM

Not everyday we'll have Mark Knopfler on an album with Miley Cyrus and Kesha.

So the record is already out for sale? Where did you get the info?


Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimes_of_Freedom:_Songs_of_Bob_Dylan_Honoring_50_Years_of_Amnesty_International)


Thank you for the link, it actually gives me no more info from what is already on AMIT. MAybe release date or site to order? Thank you anyway!
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Maxx on November 12, 2011, 01:50:10 PM
Thank you for the link, it actually gives me no more info from what is already on AMIT. MAybe release date or site to order? Thank you anyway!

 I think I read somewhere that the release date is set to 24th of January in the US, and 30th in Europe.
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: vgonis on November 12, 2011, 02:07:34 PM
Sweet of you to tell me! Thank you!
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: allen on November 12, 2011, 03:32:37 PM
http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/news.html  MKNews:

DYLAN AMNESTY TRIBUTE: Mark has recorded the song Restless Farewell which will be featured on the forth-coming Amnesty International tribute album, Chimes of Freedom: Songs of Bob Dylan Honoring 50 Years of Amnesty International. The album will be released on the 24th of January, 2012, in North America and the rest of the world on the 30th. (08/11/11)

Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: vgonis on November 12, 2011, 09:41:52 PM
Thank you too Allen!
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Maxx on November 22, 2011, 11:54:52 AM
An unconfirmed list:

    Adele,"To Make You Feel My Love"
    Bad Religion, unknown, possibly "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue".
    Rosanne Cash with Larry Campbell
    Darren Criss with the Freelance Whales
    Miley Cyrus
    Sussan Deyhim, "All I Really Want to Do"
    Bob Dylan, "Chimes Of Freedom"
    Jack's Mannequin, "Mr. Tambourine Man"
    Ke$ha,"Don't Think Twice, It's All Right"
    Mark Knopfler, "Restless Farewell"
    Diana Krall
    Alison Krauss
    Lenny Kravitz
    Ziggy Marley, "Blowin' In The Wind"
    Maroon 5, "I Shall Be Released"
    Blake Mills
    My Chemical Romance
    My Morning Jacket,
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: twm on November 24, 2011, 10:55:36 AM
This is said to be the track list:-

Chimes of Freedom: The Songs of Bob Dylan Honoring 50 Years of Amnesty International Tracklist:
Disc 1
01. Raphael Saadiq
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Pottel on November 24, 2011, 08:29:01 PM
This is said to be the track list:-

Chimes of Freedom: The Songs of Bob Dylan Honoring 50 Years of Amnesty International Tracklist:
Disc 1
01. Raphael Saadiq
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: twm on November 24, 2011, 09:37:47 PM
Yes, indeed. There are names I don't know, names I do know but only their names, names I know well but generally avoid, names I know well and some of their music, and names I'm really looking forward hearing having a bash at a Bob song.  It's a real cross-section, in a way, though I'd like to have seen The White Stripes and PJ Harvey on the list, for example but, then, we can all play that game and it gets us nowhere.

I guess that Amnesty International were looking to generate the widest possible sales for their coffers.

Even for me, 5 hours or so of Bob music, much of it by bands I don't know and some by bands/people I don't much care for, will be challenging, perhaps lifted by the fact that I know the songs so well. There aren't many contemporary performing artists who could engender such a roster or be chosen for such a cause.
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Pottel on November 24, 2011, 09:48:37 PM
Exactly! I for One am Engels Asiatinnen this Release!
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Love Expresso on November 24, 2011, 10:01:37 PM
?

Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Pottel on November 25, 2011, 07:42:49 AM
Exactly! I for One am Engels Asiatinnen this Release!
effing ipad autocorrect!
i do not even know what i wanted to say there.
i think it was something like " i for one am very excited about this release" or something alike...
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Jarle on December 10, 2011, 05:49:57 PM
I wrote this in a new thread under general discussions, but here it is again:

I am listening to Mark's version of Restless Farewell from Dylan's upcoming Amnesty album at the moment. For those of you who have Facebook, you can listen to all the songs through the Facebook page of Amnesty International USA now. I don't see any other opportunity at the moment...

Lovely song... It's like a mix of Haul Away and Piper To the End. In a way... Whistles, violin and accordion. Mark's great voice...  :)

Some info: http://music.amnestyusa.org/

Jarle
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Pottel on December 10, 2011, 11:38:23 PM
yep, also like the Queens of the stone age.
and Johnny Cash of course, always...
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: naif on December 16, 2011, 06:05:34 PM
Thanks to uploader;

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fKszPYmj7s&feature=g-u&context=G29b7b77FUAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: superval99 on December 16, 2011, 08:00:13 PM
Thank you Naif and my thanks to the uploader also.   After a few listens, I really like this song very much.  :)
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Post by: gokay on December 16, 2011, 09:24:42 PM
Thanks for the upload . Mark's singing is great in this song.
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: naif on December 16, 2011, 10:04:42 PM
Thank you Naif and my thanks to the uploader also.   After a few listens, I really like this song very much.  :)
You're welcome Val. It's kinda strange actually because not so melodic song like we used to hear from mark but perfect lyrics. Probably one of the best farewell songs. And Mark's vocal keeps going better and better :P
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on December 16, 2011, 10:23:13 PM
Thanks. Sounds great.
Here is the original if anyone is interested. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOswluhZ_sE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Enjoy.

Cheers. BBB
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Fletch on December 16, 2011, 11:03:54 PM
Can't say I enjoy Marks shaky voice in this. :(
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: twm on December 16, 2011, 11:12:17 PM
Here's Dylan's version on a birthday tribute to Frank Sinatra - not the best recording.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT2WxkPNERM

Nevertheless, note the very end, where Dylan says, "Happy birthday, Mister Frank", just as Mark referred to Dylan as "Mister Bob" on the recent tour. Given that this is the same song as on the "Amensty" tribute album, do you think Mark saw this around the time he was recording the song?

Perhaps someone sent him the video when he offered to do the song. Perhaps someone suggested that it would suit Mark and sent him the video to help persuade him.

Does anyone know the circumstances in which Mark came to record the song or, for that matter, the date that Mark made the recording?
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Dutchessy on December 17, 2011, 11:49:18 AM
Great song & singing!!

Melody sounds like Piper to the End :)
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: dmg on December 17, 2011, 01:18:23 PM
I listened to the Rotterdam '78 bootleg last night and have always loved his really expressive singing on stuff like Six Blade Knife etc.  I don't get this opinion that his voice is getting better and better personally and wish he'd put a bit more "oomph" into it these days!

I agree with Fletch about his vocal on this too especially at the start.  Just not his style at all.
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: Pottel on December 17, 2011, 05:44:49 PM
Here's Dylan's version on a birthday tribute to Frank Sinatra - not the best recording.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT2WxkPNERM

Nevertheless, note the very end, where Dylan says, "Happy birthday, Mister Frank", just as Mark referred to Dylan as "Mister Bob" on the recent tour. Given that this is the same song as on the "Amensty" tribute album, do you think Mark saw this around the time he was recording the song?

Perhaps someone sent him the video when he offered to do the song. Perhaps someone suggested that it would suit Mark and sent him the video to help persuade him.

Does anyone know the circumstances in which Mark came to record the song or, for that matter, the date that Mark made the recording?
Guy answered on his forum that is was recorded in June.
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: twm on December 17, 2011, 05:50:13 PM
"Restless Farewell" has an interesting back story.

Dylan wrote this song very quickly as a response (nay, a reaction, really) to a story in NEWSWEEK. The tune is based on an Irish song called "The Parting Glass", a song for singing at the end of an evening's drinking. Some say it, in turn, is based on a Scottish song collected and then revised by Robert Burns.

On 20 October 1963, the DULUTH NEWS TRIBUNE printed a story about Dylan as remembered by those who knew him in Duluth, where he was born, and in Hibbing, where he grew up. In essence, the Dylan described was very different from his public image. I cannot say for sure that Dylan read this story but NEWSWEEK had apparently been seeking an interview with him for some time and it was a few days after this report that Dylan was interviewed by a NEWSWEEK reporter. In the event, the story she posted was even worse, from Dylan's point of view, than the one published in Duluth - and NEWSWEEK got national (even international) circulation. It even repeated the rumour that Dylan had not written "Blowin' In The Wind", which had been a major hit for Peter, Paul & Mary earlier in the year.

The NEWSWEEK issue had a cover date of 4 November 1963 but was actually available on newsstands several days earlier than this. I have a photocopy of a telegram sent to NEWSWEEK (not by Dylan but someone else in the New York folk music scene) complaining about the article and the telegram is dated 29 October. It seems likely, therefore, that Dylan saw the NEWSWEEK on or about 29 October 1963. He recorded "Restless Farewell" on 31 October 1963 and the "dust of rumours" phrase in the final verse is a comment on his treatment by the press.

"Restless Farewell" is the last song on THE TIMES THEY ARE A-CHANGIN' album and, in the liner notes, Dylan makes further comment on this treatment. After this, he became more wary of the press. He also fell out with his record company press relations guy, who had been very much a supporter in the early days. Dylan himself disappeared from New York for a short while afterwards, going off to California.

With its Scottish/Irish forebears, "Restless Farewell" is much fitted to Mark Knopfler's current band line-up. It is also a sound that I quite like.  If I were to criticise his vocal (and it is more a comment than a criticism), I always hear the last few lines of the last verse as a defiant statement. Mark sings them more with a tone of regret than defiance. There is nothing inherently wrong with this. It is not the way the lyric strikes me but it is a perfectly valid approach that produces a quite affecting rendering of the song, in my opinion. Quiet, slightly understated and, in consequence, rather effective.

For those who don't know them, here are the lyrics, which Mark follows closely:

Restless Farewell

Oh all the money that in my whole life I did spend
Be it mine right or wrongfully
I let it slip gladly past the hands of my friends
To tie up the time most forcefully
But the bottles are done
We
Title: Re: Mark on Dylan Amnesty tribute album.
Post by: knopflerized on December 19, 2011, 07:39:27 PM
Gosh!I missed that post !!!
But a good friend forwarded me the link !
Great voice ! Nice Melody
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