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Previous Albums => Privateering (2012) => Topic started by: Love Expresso on July 07, 2012, 12:21:48 AM

Title: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: Love Expresso on July 07, 2012, 12:21:48 AM
My try: 

Hunted down I came upon
a place of ferns and grass
gathered to a Redbud Tree
and now their footsteps pass
where I crouch and dread discovery
my certain death early's reaching for my head
as i suspend my breath

Redbud Tree shelter me shelter me
Redbud Tree shelter me shelter me

(guitar solo) 

those days of fear are gone
yet i am pledged to her
as to my only one
my lovely protecteur
Redbud Tree shelter me shelter me
Redbud Tree shelter me shelter me


Red marks the lines where I am uncertain.


Seems to be set in the American civil war times. Maybe a slave has been protected by a Southern (french influenced) lady ("protecteur"). (Reminds me of Dylan's "come in she said I give you shelter from the storm") At least this is the first lyrical level to me. I am sure there are some more levels. Please correct me when you think this is totally wrong...

LE
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: Banjo99uk on July 07, 2012, 12:23:51 AM
Just posted this in the other post.

Hunted down I came upon
A place of ferns and grass
Gathered to a redbud tree
And now there footsteps pass
Where i crouch in dread
Discovery my certain death
Something? reaching for my hand
As i suspend my breath

Redbud tree shelter me shelter me etc

Those days of fear are gone
Yet i am pledged to her
As to my  only one
My lovely protector
Redbud tree shelter me etc
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: Love Expresso on July 07, 2012, 12:25:05 AM
 :lol

You forgot the guitar solo!  ;D

LE
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: border_reiver on July 07, 2012, 01:09:57 AM
And the footstomp in the intro

*thud thud thud thud*

 ;D
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: jerrymb on July 07, 2012, 01:11:33 AM
Hi new here! Can someone upload the new song to Youtube?
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: Love Expresso on July 07, 2012, 01:15:33 AM
I am pretty sure after several listenings (and I pretty much hope) that this is really an edited version - for me there is some lyrics missing after the first paragraph and before the guitar solo. I bet there is another verse before the solo, so that we maybe will be able to understand where the lady suddenly came from!  :D

Btw, I would also bet that these footstomps are a kicking bass drum?

Did I say already that I LOVE this song? It has a proper intro, lyrics with a deeper meaning, a phantastic guitar solo as only MK can deliver and a nice ending. Just imagine that the next song on the album then will be Haul Away. How much bliss can one man stand!

LE
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: Love Expresso on July 07, 2012, 01:16:09 AM
Hi new here! Can someone upload the new song to Youtube?

Hi!

Sorry, but certainly not!

LE
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: shangri la 1 on July 07, 2012, 01:19:17 AM
My 2nd try at the Lyrics

REDBUD TREE (Mark Knopfler)
Redbud Tree

Hunted down, I came upon
A place of ferns and grass
Gathered to a redbud tree
And now their footsteps pass
Where I crouch in dread
Discovery my certain death
Her leaves reaching for my head
As I suspend my breath

Redbud tree, shelter me, shelter me
Redbud tree, shelter me, shelter me

Those days of fear are gone
Yet I am pledged to her
As to my only one
My lovely protector

Redbud tree, shelter me, shelter me
Redbud tree, shelter me, shelter me
Redbud tree, shelter me, shelter me
Redbud tree, shelter me, shelter me
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: Banjo99uk on July 07, 2012, 01:22:01 AM
I am pretty sure after several listenings (and I pretty much hope) that this is really an edited version - for me there is some lyrics missing after the first paragraph and before the guitar solo. I bet there is another verse before the solo, so that we maybe will be able to understand where the lady suddenly came from!  :D

Btw, I would also bet that these footstomps are a kicking bass drum?

Did I say already that I LOVE this song? It has a proper intro, lyrics with a deeper meaning, a phantastic guitar solo as only MK can deliver and a nice ending. Just imagine that the next song on the album then will be Haul Away. How much bliss can one man stand!

LE
You are right, their must be a verse missing for the radio edit.
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: border_reiver on July 07, 2012, 01:26:03 AM
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Burr leaves  reaching for my head (hat)
j



Some googling suggests "bur leaves"...
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: koobaa on July 07, 2012, 01:38:21 AM
I am pretty sure after several listenings (and I pretty much hope) that this is really an edited version - for me there is some lyrics missing after the first paragraph and before the guitar solo. I bet there is another verse before the solo, so that we maybe will be able to understand where the lady suddenly came from!  :D

LE, I think you're right with the missing verse between the first one and the solo. I also like your track with the slave story. Not sure about the lady though. He may be referring "Her" to the tree itself, as the protector. Will be interesting to hear the full version.
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: shangri la 1 on July 07, 2012, 02:00:02 AM
Yes I like the Civil war idea. My guess is the 1st verse is during and the last one that we have is after the war?
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: jbaent on July 07, 2012, 07:55:27 AM
Maybe this will help with the understanding of the song (from Wikipedia):

Cercis canadensis L. (Eastern Redbud) is a large shrub or small tree native to eastern North America from Southern Ontario, Canada south to northern Florida, United States.
( )
A small tree with a sturdy upright trunk which divides into stout branches that usually spread to form a broad flat head. Found on rich bottom lands throughout the Mississippi River valley; will grow in the shade and often becomes a dense undergrowth in the forest. Very abundant in Arkansas, Oklahoma, and eastern Texas. Hardy far north; grows rapidly; is a satisfactory ornamental tree. Many trees are sterile and produce no fruit. It is also known as the Judas tree.
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In some parts of southern Appalachia, green twigs from the Eastern redbud are used as seasoning for wild game such as venison and opossum. Because of this, in these mountain areas the Eastern redbud is sometimes known as the spicewood tree.

In the wild, Eastern redbud is a frequent native understory tree in mixed forests and hedgerows. It is also much planted as a landscape ornamental plant. The leaves are eaten by the caterpillars of some Lepidoptera, for example the Io moth (Automeris io).

The redbud is the state tree of Oklahoma.
( )
Native Americans consumed redbud flowers raw or boiled, and ate roasted seeds. Analysis of nutritional components in edible parts of eastern redbud reported that:

the flower extract contains anthocyanins,
green developing seeds contained proanthocyanides, and
linolenic, alpha-linolenic, oleic and palmitic acids to be present in seeds.[3]
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: Love Expresso on July 07, 2012, 07:57:25 AM
So it is about ... drugs??  :lol

LE
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: jbaent on July 07, 2012, 07:58:58 AM
So it is about ... drugs??  :lol

LE

Maybe  ;D

However, I guess the tree itself may have a symbolism in the meaning of the song.
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: Dutchessy on July 07, 2012, 08:09:29 AM
Dont hear ruth moody singing?
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: jbaent on July 07, 2012, 08:45:19 AM
Dont hear ruth moody singing?

Not at all...

I hope that this is really a radio edit. Its too short and it ends suddenly...
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: qjamesfloyd on July 07, 2012, 09:35:11 AM
The Ruth Moody things is a bit strange, because if you go on her website, she doesn't mention recording with Mark at all, now you would think any artist recording with Mark, especially the first time would want to shout about it?
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: jbaent on July 07, 2012, 09:39:54 AM
In the MK
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: qjamesfloyd on July 07, 2012, 09:42:31 AM
Yes, you could be right, but if you turn the volume up, I think you can just hear her in the chorus too, deep in the mix, but I also get the feeling, this is an edited version, shorter for the radio release.
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: DIFFICULTTOBELIEVE on July 07, 2012, 04:29:24 PM
Hole 16 at Augusta National, where the Masters is played, is called Redbud, so I think the song may have a golfing theme. ;D
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: shangri la 1 on July 08, 2012, 09:46:48 AM
Found this link to the Civil war.

http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/virginia-wildlife/feature-spotlight/pdfs/redbud-run.pdf


Redbud Run, a rambling 5-mile-long stream of the Opequon watershed in the far northern reaches of our commonwealth,
is unique and its attributes, little known. Boasting beauty in every season, it is one of only three streams in the Shenandoah Valley that support a naturally-reproducing rainbow trout population. Its deeply incised banks of limestone and marl bordering cold, spring-fed waters, lush surrounding meadows, and healthy and productive woodlands are also hallowed ground.  Here, on September 19, 1864 in the bloodiest of all Civil War battles fought in the Shenandoah Valley, Lieutenant General Jubal Early
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: Guitarman1972 on July 08, 2012, 10:44:11 AM
I found this:


Why is the red bud tree called the Judas tree?

The story involves both the dogwood tree and the redbud tree, both of which bloom in Spring right around Easter.

The story goes like this:
The dogwood trees came to Jesus after the resurrection, and made a request - Since the wood that was used to crucify our Lord was from the dogwood, they requested that they no longer grow tall enough or strong enough to be used for timber for this purpose.

The Lord agreed, and since that time, the dogwood has grown short in stature, with small limbs, unsuitable to be used in major lumber projects.

Also, because of the request, the Lord also caused beautiful white crosses to bloom on the tree, with a reddish spot of blood in every bloom, and a tiny crown of thorns at the center of the blossom.

The redbud trees came and asked the Lord a favor as well. Since the great traitor Judas Iscariot had hung himself on this tree, they asked the Lord to ensure that never happened again.

The Lord agreed. Henceforth, all redbud trees have grown short in stature, with limbs thin and low to the ground, unsuitable for hangings.

Also, because of the request, the Lord also caused crimson blooms to burst out along the branches like rivulets of blood, to remind one of the blood Christ shed for the sins of the world, and the innocent blood betrayed by Judas. And the leaves henceforth would grow in the shape of hearts, to remind all who look of the endless and boundless love of God for our lost race.

source: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_the_red_bud_tree_called_the_Judas_tree
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: Love Expresso on July 08, 2012, 01:36:42 PM

If I remember correctly, we also had a cut single version of What It Is? And wasn't This Is Us also not complete when we first heard the radio cut? Wasn't the piano outro cut out? So it seems to be usual that MK's singles are sometimes cut and shortened to fill into the radio programm scheme?

Here's hope for some more seconds/minutes of this great song!  ;)

LE
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: Dutchessy on July 08, 2012, 02:21:12 PM
There is a short border reiver radio edit too, also a why aye man radio edit (on private investigations, 2005)
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: jbaent on July 08, 2012, 03:08:18 PM
There is a short border reiver radio edit too, also a why aye man radio edit (on private investigations, 2005)

I recall that What It Is had the guitar solo cut in the edit version...
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: rosco on July 08, 2012, 03:56:42 PM
Why Aye Man had a radio edit version as well .
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: jbaent on July 08, 2012, 05:00:29 PM
Why Aye Man had a radio edit version as well .

That ends suddenly, but very well edited.
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: dmg on July 08, 2012, 05:32:17 PM
...and let's not forget the Mexican promo version of What It Is that was actually longer than the final release! :o
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: twm on July 08, 2012, 05:41:31 PM
It may just be a coincidence but Connecting "Redbud Tree" to the American Civl War and, in particular, to battles in the Shenandoah Valley reminded me that "Oh Shenandoah" came up as part of the cross-posting on AMIT concerning the nautical themes on PRIVATEERING.
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: owieri on July 08, 2012, 07:18:57 PM
...and let's not forget the Mexican promo version of What It Is that was actually longer than the final release! :o
Good point! The album version might be and very probably will be shorter.  ;D
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: koobaa on July 08, 2012, 07:53:59 PM
If this song was supposed to be a duet (Ruth Moody's contribution) I don't understand why they would edit her out for the single and radio? Doesn't make sense to me. It's almost like cheating. Unless her contribution is not as obvious as we might think. I'm really curious to hear the full unedited version now.
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: owieri on July 08, 2012, 08:05:21 PM
It may just be a coincidence but Connecting "Redbud Tree" to the American Civl War and, in particular, to battles in the Shenandoah Valley reminded me that "Oh Shenandoah" came up as part of the cross-posting on AMIT concerning the nautical themes on PRIVATEERING.
It might be connected to American Civl War in terms of inspiration. But it doesn't have any direct connection.
Looks like just anti-war song. And this is very important topic these days.
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: jbaent on July 09, 2012, 11:58:58 AM
The Ruth Moody things is a bit strange, because if you go on her website, she doesn't mention recording with Mark at all, now you would think any artist recording with Mark, especially the first time would want to shout about it?

If you listen to the song with headphones, its pretty clear that there is a woman voice in the backing vocals...

A pitty if Ruth Moody was used just for that but hey, there are 19 more songs, so maybe she
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: superval99 on July 09, 2012, 12:09:52 PM
From Guy's forum a while ago:

Q   Hi Guy, Did Ruth and Mark sing a duet? or did she sing backing vocals?

Guy:  A bit of both actually, she was great.
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: jbaent on July 09, 2012, 12:11:07 PM
From Guy's forum a while ago:

Q   Hi Guy, Did Ruth and Mark sing a duet? or did she sing backing vocals?

Guy:  A bit of both actually, she was great.

Yes, thats why I say there are 19 songs more...

Maybe in Redbud Tree it was just backing vocals.
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: superval99 on July 09, 2012, 12:18:17 PM
I spoke to Ruth after the Transatlantic Sessions show in Gateshead and I mentioned to her that I had heard she was singing on Mark's album.   She said she was amazed that I knew about it.  She said it was a very beautiful album and that some of the songs had made her cry, because they were so beautiful.   She seemed a really nice person and I liked her voice a lot too!   :)
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: shangri la 1 on July 09, 2012, 11:03:42 PM
 :) Thanks. Nice insight superval99. That's what is so great with AMIT forum. We can get insider information from many different sources to build up pictures in our own minds as to how the new CD's will be.  :D
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: superval99 on July 13, 2012, 01:09:33 PM
From Guy's forum today, one person's explanation of the lyrics:

here is my humble interpretation of Redbud Tree.The tree has heart-shaped leaves and flowers that are pink in color.The character is a fugitive(for whatever reason)and seeks refuge under the tree fearing his death if he is found.He refers to to the tree as "her"(her leaves reaching for his hand)and it may be a metaphor for a female.The tree does not really offer much by way of a hiding place or shelter,yet he remains undetected.The latter part finds him no longer in fear."Yet I am pledged to her" may infer an obligation or debt of some sort,maybe. Then "As to my only one,My love may protect her" may or not denote a separation of sorts and that in his absence,she is protected,maybe.The chorus may mean that the character is asking for the same love and protection in return. Have I nailed it? I hardly think so, but something is always learned in my modest effort to try.You are right though,it is a very cool song.Sorry, but no applause or(ouch) forehead slapping will be forthcoming. Cheers :)

I agree in the main about this interpretation, particularly the phrase "her leaves reaching for my hand" which now seems to me much more fitting, as the tree is referred to as "her" throughout the song.  

I feel much happier with the lyric now and the song as a whole. :)      
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: Banjo99uk on July 13, 2012, 01:36:00 PM
Maybe its about that rubbish film Avatar.
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: jbaent on July 13, 2012, 05:42:47 PM
Maybe its about that rubbish film Avatar.

Maybe its about half Europe looking for a calm place to die while the other half (the one with the money) looks at them dying...
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: sak4 on July 18, 2012, 06:40:02 PM
 

That one rings bells Superval,   the Redbud Tree with heart -shaped leaves also refers to his wife so its a sweetly personal lovesong.


Also found this reference online - a bit heavy

"The Eastern Redbud is also known as
Title: Re: Redbud Tree Lyrics
Post by: happy to be here on November 29, 2019, 10:54:57 PM
Btw, I would also bet that these footstomps are a kicking bass drum?

Did I say already that I LOVE this song? It has a proper intro, lyrics with a deeper meaning, a phantastic guitar solo as only MK can deliver and a nice ending. Just imagine that the next song on the album then will be Haul Away. How much bliss can one man stand!

LE

Great song.  You hear footsteps.  I hear a loudly beating heart.  Beating so loud someone a pursuer might hear it.