A Mark In Time
Previous Tours => 2012 Mark Knopfler & Bob Dylan Tour => Topic started by: jabbathehut on July 18, 2012, 06:20:06 PM
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Very interesting given that both artists have new albums coming out.
Don't really understand whats in it for Mark this time.He could do full shows as he has a new album.
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Just seen the info. He's a fan of BD for sure - hmmm. So he won't be doing promo on the new release until the New Year. :(
I don't wan't time to pass so quickly - but roll on 2013
Hope you guys over the pond enjoy it and keep us informed.
Sally
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it was discussed during last tour and mark agreed to bob's proposal (or the other way round) as the both admire each other, guess it is as simple as that..
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October 05 - Winnipeg, MN
MTS Centre July 20 at
10 am CDT
October 06 - Regina, SK
Brandt Centre July 20 at
10 am CST
October 08 - Saskatoon, SK
Credit Union Centre July 20 at
10 am CST
October 09 - Edmonton, AB
Rexall July 20 at
10 am MDT
October 10 - Calgary, AB
Scotiabank Saddledome July 20 at
10 am MDT
October 12 - Vancouver, BC
Rogers Arena July 20 at
10 am PDT
October 13 - Seattle, WA
Key Arena July 20 at
10 am PDT
October 15 - Portland, OR
Rose Garden Arena July 20 at
10 am PDT
October 17 - San Francisco, CA
Bill Graham Civic Auditorium July 20 at
10 am PDT
October 18 - San Francisco, CA
Bill Graham Civic Auditorium July 20 at
10 am PDT
October 19 - Berkeley, CA
Greek Theatre July 20 at
10 am PDT
October 20 - Sacramento, CA
Power Balance Pavilion July 20 at
10 am PDT
October 22 - Santa Barbara, CA
Santa Barbara County Bowl July 20 at
10 am PDT
October 24 - San Diego, CA
Valley View Casino Center July 27 at
10 am PDT
October 26 - Los Angeles, CA
Hollywood Bowl July 30 at
10 am PDT
October 29 - Broomfield, CO
1st Bank Center Presale TBD
October 30 - Broomfield, CO
1st Bank Center Presale TBD
November 1 - Grand Prairie, TX
Verizon Theatre Presale TBD
November 2 - Tulsa, OK
BOK Center Presale TBD
November 3 - Omaha, NE
CenturyLink Center Presale TBD
November 5 - Madison, WI
Alliant Energy Center Presale TBD
November 7 - St. Paul, MN
Xcel Energy Center Presale TBD
November 8 - Milwaukee, WI
BMO Harris Bradley Center Presale TBD
November 9 - Chicago, IL
United Center Presale TBD
November 12 - Grand Rapids, MI
Van Andel Arena Presale TBD
November 13 - Detroit, MI
Palace of Auburn Hills Presale TBD
November 14 - Toronto, ON
Air Canada Centre Presale TBD
November 16 - Montreal, QC
Bell Centre Presale TBD
November 18 - Boston, MA
TD Banknorth Garden Presale TBD
November 19 - Philadelphia, PA
Wells Fargo Center Presale TBD
November 20 - Washington, DC
Verizon Center Presale TBD
November 21 - Brooklyn, NY
Barclay's Center Presale TBD
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It's a 32-date tour over 8 weeks, which isn't too bad for senior citizens.
Based on the gaps in the tour, LA and Chicago look possible for a second show each.
With Thanksgiving being on 22 November this year (I think that's right), I doubt there'll be an extra show in the New York area after 21 November but you never know.
My guess is that it might go up towards a 34-date tour
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I'll be going to Philadelphia for sure. That's probably it for me. I hate paying twice the money to see MK for half the time, but I'm very excited to be seeing him this year at all, so I'm not complaining :)
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So we have the first AMIT'er at a show, joanzimm! ;) What about Isaac, maybe he will following this tour again, although the Bob part didn't make a big impression on him last time it seems...
LE
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So have the first AMIT'er at a show. What about Isaac, maybe he will following this tour again, although the Bob part didn't make a big impression on him last time it seems...
LE
We sat next to Isaac at Manchester and, no, he certainly wasn't impressed at all with Bob. ;)
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No immediate plams but we hope to catch at least one show on the tour.
I wonder if Dylan will continue to use the baby grand on stage.
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I'll be going to Philadelphia for sure. That's probably it for me. I hate paying twice the money to see MK for half the time, but I'm very excited to be seeing him this year at all, so I'm not complaining :)
A 75 minute show + 20 minutes playing with Bob, that's not so short. He is in great shape and happier than ever to play with Bob. :)
You will love it and it's worth the money ! ;D
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I'll be there in Calgary, Alberta. Excited already!
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It looks like a Dylan tour with MK in support, as in Europe last year. Does anyone know for sure? Maybe GF could tell us.
By the way, an official e-mail I got directing you to the "bd.com" webpage had an advert for the tour but it was a strange thing - it was for a Hollywood Bowl concert on 25th August (not 26th October)!
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Brooklyn!! Wow, I never thought MK would play in my birthplace! It sure will be a happy Thanksgiving for me, but I won't spring for my usual 1st row seats until we get MK alone in 2013!
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I never ever received news about MK concerts so calmed, relaxed, like nothing was happening... I guess thats what the distance has. NA is so far for me and as there is no chance to attend any of the shows, actually I didnt mind about it...
I guess that as the dates approache, I
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Shai, please me something about the Brooklyn venue. I know it's a brand new building and that the first concerts there will not be until September but I believe other concerts are set for there.
Someone told me that Leonard Cohen will be all seated but I've also heard that concerts will be general admission there. General Admission or all-seated or part-GA/part-seated?
I've also been told that tickets are commonly $300 each there. Is that true? Is it a regular price? If it's a 19000-capacity venue for concerts, what does $300 buy?
So what's the local information?
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What kind of venues are these ones? Big or small arenas? Theaters?
Edited: Just checked some of the sites (I didnt notice that the links were in mk.com presales web) and some of them looks like REAL big venues... I
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I was just checking the presales to see the prices and there is nothing yet...
The presales starts tomorrow and, as far as I remember, althought its not the presale day or the presale time, usually the prices of the different alternatives used to be there so you can think in advance what kind of tickets are you going to buy...
Am I wrong? How stange is that? It is tomorrow...
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Yes, the venues they selected for DC, Boston, Philly, and NY are huge arenas. It's very different as MK hasn't played in venues of this size in the US since the OES tour. I guess they expect demand for tickets for these shows to be high. Also, the Barclays center in Brooklyn is still under construction until September! Hopefully, they'll finish it in time...haha...
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Yes, the venues they selected for DC, Boston, Philly, and NY are huge arenas. It's very different as MK hasn't played in venues of this size in the US since the OES tour. I guess they expect demand for tickets for these shows to be high. Also, the Barclays center in Brooklyn is still under construction until September! Hopefully, they'll finish it in time...haha...
Thats funny, as in the website you can do a virtual visit of the arena!!!
Looks great, and big!!!!
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I'm actually surprising myself and getting excited now the dates are out. I was only relatively interested before but now - wow! Some of these venues I recognise from his '88 tour with EC so will be familiar and it's nice to see The Hollywood Bowl listed as it's quite iconic so he can add it to his list.
This size of venue and the fact Bob's will be the the main audience might introduce a new fanbase to MK's wonderful music and the timing is good with the new album, but it's important to get the set list right. Maybe kick off this time with Rosebud Tree instead of WII/WAM? ;)
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I'm actually surprising myself and getting excited now the dates are out. I was only relatively interested before but now - wow! Some of these venues I recognise from his '88 tour with EC so will be familiar and it's nice to see The Hollywood Bowl listed as it's quite iconic so he can add it to his list.
This size of venue and the fact Bob's will be the the main audience might introduce a new fanbase to MK's wonderful music and the timing is good with the new album, but it's important to get the set list right. Maybe kick off this time with Rosebud Tree instead of WII/WAM? ;)
I dont see Redbud Tree as an opener, actually I think What it is or Why aye man works very well as an opener. Probably Corned Beef City will work better as is a rocker one and its from the new record.
I hope they play more than the three songs he already played last autumm :)
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I'm actually surprising myself and getting excited now the dates are out. I was only relatively interested before but now - wow! Some of these venues I recognise from his '88 tour with EC so will be familiar and it's nice to see The Hollywood Bowl listed as it's quite iconic so he can add it to his list.
This size of venue and the fact Bob's will be the the main audience might introduce a new fanbase to MK's wonderful music and the timing is good with the new album, but it's important to get the set list right. Maybe kick off this time with Rosebud Tree instead of WII/WAM? ;)
I dont see Redbud Tree as an opener, actually I think What it is or Why aye man works very well as an opener. Probably Corned Beef City will work better as is a rocker one and its from the new record.
I hope they play more than the three songs he already played last autumm :)
I agree that WII?WAM work well as openers and to tell the truth I was torn between Redbud Tree and Corned Beef myself as opener but couldn't think of a joke for a song title that I just had for lunch! ;D
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I agree that WII?WAM work well as openers and to tell the truth I was torn between Redbud Tree and Corned Beef myself as opener but couldn't think of a joke for a song title that I just had for lunch! ;D
And as a second song... Baloney again
And the last one... Old pigweed
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old pigweed!!!!!!love it..
and then kingdom come, followed by If i had you, Camerado, Millionaire's blues, Long Highway, my claim to fame, small potatoes...
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What kind of venues are these ones? Big or small arenas? Theaters?
Edited: Just checked some of the sites (I didnt notice that the links were in mk.com presales web) and some of them looks like REAL big venues... I
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old pigweed!!!!!!love it..
and then kingdom come, followed by If i had you, Camerado, Millionaire's blues, Long Highway, my claim to fame, small potatoes...
If he plays Kingdom come and Camerado I'll find a way to cross the ocean.
If he plays If I had you, small potatoes or the long highway I'll be happy to stay home though very sad for our US and Canadian buddies.
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If that's the set I'll swim across the Atlantic, assuming he drops Long Highway of course! ;D
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One of the Dylan websites is already showing 10 November as a possible second show in Chicago if the first sells out. Nothing about an extra LA show if the Hollywood Bowl sells out, though.
The Hollywood Bowl might well sell out, even with its 17,000 capacity, but would they fill it a second time? Maybe. Mabe not. You can bet there'll be a few movie stars and the like there. I imagine the after-show party will be something.
As dmg said, the Hollwood Bowl is an iconic venue, one that Dylan first played 49 years ago! It was in October 1963 and he was an unbilled guest at a Joan Baez concert, though his appearance was reported in the local pres beforehand. He played it in his own right two years later, one of his early "electric" shows, a show for which a recording circulates.
Now, why on earth did Dylan's website show a poster for a show with Mark Knopfler at the Hollywood Bowl on 25 August 2012? Goodness only knows.
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I was soooo excited yesterday about the dates I could hardly sleep last night. I'm so fortunate to have the 4 venues so close to me. I'll be going to San Francisco perhaps both nights, Berkeley and maybe Sacramento.
I learned from the last presale how I screwed up. I'm ready to have all 3 of my laptops going the same time tomorrow. Does anybody know how the seats will be allocated to MK and BD fans? Would MK.com have some nice front seats for MK fans?
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I was soooo excited yesterday about the dates I could hardly sleep last night. I'm so fortunate to have the 4 venues so close to me. I'll be going to San Francisco perhaps both nights, Berkeley and maybe Sacramento.
I learned from the last presale how I screwed up. I'm ready to have all 3 of my laptops going the same time tomorrow. Does anybody know how the seats will be allocated to MK and BD fans? Would MK.com have some nice front seats for MK fans?
Its usually first comes firts serves basis, so good luck ;)
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That group of shows in mid-California is clearly a very attractive prospect for those who attend multiple shows. And the Bill Graham Civic Auditorium, with a 7000 capacity, makes it even more attractive.
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I was disappointed when I saw all the dates as it meant they'd be no Knopfler dates in the UK in 2012. I was hoping to see Mark by himself for the first time after catching a couple of the shows with Dylan last fall.
I wonder if after breaking through the 'duet barrier' on the last night at Hammersmith if Mark and Bob might share the mic or encore together once in a while on the US tour.
I hope for those at the early gigs that the two don't wait a few weeks before even sharing the stage as they did in the UK.
Looking forward to some new live recordings... ;D
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As the main part of the tour is known, with perhaps some extra shows, some other questions remain.
I'm not into MK that deep, but I understand he put a tour band together for the Europe 2011 tour. Will he have the same line-up for 2012?
Another point is what our two buddies learned from Europe. Will they start playing together from the beginning of the tour? Will Mark's part be adding guitar to some of the first tunes again or will there be more duetting?
And, as we have seen with the Bob Dylan/Paul Simon combination, will Bob at last join in with Mark as well?
Anyway, all the links to setlists and recordings will be provided at www.watchingtheriverflow.org (http://www.watchingtheriverflow.org) where you also find more updated info than on my blog http://thetwinwithin.blogspot.com/2011/10/sundown-on-euro-tour-til-greed-got-in.html (http://thetwinwithin.blogspot.com/2011/10/sundown-on-euro-tour-til-greed-got-in.html). In time the Dylan/Knopfler story will be continued on my blog.
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The band hasnt been announced, but we guess that the MK band will be the same.
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You raise a couple of interesting points tTW.
First of all I wish MK would join in with BD again but in a far more elaborate way as he did with EC in "the day." There is no point in doing an under rehearsed, half arsed job of it like last time where MK just stands there for decoration. He's too good for that and completely wasted.
The other point of BD joining MK on his set is interesting but I really can't think of any songs he could enhance. Perhaps So Far Away! ;D
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I hope they do this time the way is meant to be, rehearse a bunch of songs and play them well... Many of the songs from last tour sounded quite bad, with MK trying to fit in the songs instead of playing along with the band.
About BD, he can play with MK, but please, switch off his mic, his guitar and specially his harmonica and his organ. If he destroy his own songs, I cant imagine the damage he can make to MK
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Quite strange that being today the presale, there is NOTHING yet in mk.com site...
Good Old Canadians...
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http://www.ticketmaster.ca/Bob-Dylan-tickets/artist/734972?tm_link=edp_Artist_Name
The presales are there...
I dont know if MK.com will sale them too, their links points to a mk.com site where is nothing, Dylan site points to ticketmaster.
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Quite strange that being today the presale, there is NOTHING yet in mk.com site...
Good Old Canadians...
Remember sale starts 10:00 local time which is 5 hours behind GMT.
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Quite strange that being today the presale, there is NOTHING yet in mk.com site...
Good Old Canadians...
Remember sale starts 10:00 local time.
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Are they gonna put the details of the different type of tickets availables at the very same moment?
I saw that ticketmaster is offering the presales, maybe they (mk.com) forget that detail, maybe they are gonna do it at the same time, but MK.com has nothing yet, Ticketmaster does.
One of them are proffesionals, guess which one ;D
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Well, this good old Canadian got tickets through MK.com at precisely 10:00 MDT.
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Hi Daveyray70 and welcome, "Newbie" that you are, you know of course that we are eagerly awaiting any review from a fan's point of view!! ;D (I see from your posts that you are seem to be more into Mark than Dylan)
LE
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Thanks for the welcome! Yes, I'm certainly more of a MK fan than BD. Although, I do love a lot of BD's music; just a little concerned about the quality of his performances these days. It seems like his voice has been shot for over 25 years now! I will gladly post a review when the time comes. Cheers
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can only say i still love the recordings of his past 5 shows (BD that is) but that topic (Bob's performances) has been discussed to death last tour, let's not go down that road..
this new tour offers so effing many mindblowing possibilities....omg..
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The tickets for CA went on sale a little after 10 am this morning. I got my tickets for both nights in San Francisco pretty fast within the first few minutes I would say. However, it took almost 20 minutes before I could get 2 tickets for Berkeley. They weren't even the best seats I think. Because soon after the best seats were sold out. I wasn't too happy about that. The price for SF shows was $70 each , whereas the price for the show in Berkeley was a whopping $149 each. I think I probably wold enjoy SF more for the mere fact that the venue in SF is standing room only general admission and I got the floor tickets. It will suit me better.
Thought I'd like to share today's excitement with everyone. :)
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The tickets for CA went on sale a little after 10 am this morning. I got my tickets for both nights in San Francisco pretty fast within the first few minutes I would say. However, it took almost 20 minutes before I could get 2 tickets for Berkeley. They weren't even the best seats I think. Because soon after the best seats were sold out. I wasn't too happy about that. The price for SF shows was $70 each , whereas the price for the show in Berkeley was a whopping $149 each. I think I probably wold enjoy SF more for the mere fact that the venue in SF is standing room only general admission and I got the floor tickets. It will suit me better.
Thought I'd like to share today's excitement with everyone. :)
Last time I ordered seats for the MK show in Glasgow SECC 2010 I was poised on my computer at the very second they went on sale with the form all ready filled out, yet my seats were at the end of the front row. I don't think they necessarily start from the middle but from the end and work their way in. Or maybe it depends on how many one orders. I would rather have had seats 10 rows further back but in the middle.
For the show last year it was standing and I have our very own Dusty to thank for allowing me into the queue hence a front row position, for which I shall be forever grateful. ;)
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For the show last year it was standing and I have our very own Dusty to thank for allowing me into the queue hence a front row position, for which I shall be forever grateful. ;)
In that very same queue, some minutes before to met you and Dusty, I was talking with some spanish friend in the queue and during the 5 minutes we were talking, about 7 or 8 people pointed at us talking with security because we were trying to put ourselfs in the queue before them!!! It was absurd, specially because during the concert I had some of that idiots next to me or behind... And I was very very far in the queue...
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For the show last year it was standing and I have our very own Dusty to thank for allowing me into the queue hence a front row position, for which I shall be forever grateful. ;)
In that very same queue, some minutes before to met you and Dusty, I was talking with some spanish friend in the queue and during the 5 minutes we were talking, about 7 or 8 people pointed at us talking with security because we were trying to put ourselfs in the queue before them!!! It was absurd, specially because during the concert I had some of that idiots next to me or behind... And I was very very far in the queue...
I remember that. Soooo bad... Soooo bad... ;)
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They were drunk even before to enter the venue, and that was a commercial mall!!!! The most bizarre place I ever attended a concert.
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The tickets for CA went on sale a little after 10 am this morning. I got my tickets for both nights in San Francisco pretty fast within the first few minutes I would say. However, it took almost 20 minutes before I could get 2 tickets for Berkeley. They weren't even the best seats I think. Because soon after the best seats were sold out. I wasn't too happy about that. The price for SF shows was $70 each , whereas the price for the show in Berkeley was a whopping $149 each. I think I probably wold enjoy SF more for the mere fact that the venue in SF is standing room only general admission and I got the floor tickets. It will suit me better.
Thought I'd like to share today's excitement with everyone. :)
Hope you got decent seats! Will look forward to your report :P
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They were drunk even before to enter the venue, and that was a commercial mall!!!! The most bizarre place I ever attended a concert.
Bizarre is not the word! I hadn't been there and hadn't a clue where to go. I didn't begin to imagine it would be an ice rink at the end of a shopping centre! Worst venue ever. :disbelief
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I am new to this site and have been lurking for a bit. I've been very impressed with the thoughtful discussions that evolve on the various topics and am super excited that MK and BD will be touring in my neighborhood. Madison can use a little uplift after the year we've had! And speaking of tours, has anyone noticed that MK's site is promoting David Knopfler's tour? I'd say that is a step in the right direction, not?
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I am new to this site and have been lurking for a bit. I've been very impressed with the thoughtful discussions that evolve on the various topics and am super excited that MK and BD will be touring in my neighborhood. Madison can use a little uplift after the year we've had! And speaking of tours, has anyone noticed that MK's site is promoting David Knopfler's tour? I'd say that is a step in the right direction, not?
Welcome RKD to this great forum. The excitement in the forum has yet to begin, just wait til Oct-Nov. it will be on fire. I feel soooo fortunate and somewhat guilty that I can get to the venues in SF and Berkeley in no time at all. They are almost in my backyard. There are fans that have to arrange travels, etc.. So, big thank youuuuu for the best treat for 2012 for me.
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I am new to this site and have been lurking for a bit. I've been very impressed with the thoughtful discussions that evolve on the various topics and am super excited that MK and BD will be touring in my neighborhood. Madison can use a little uplift after the year we've had! And speaking of tours, has anyone noticed that MK's site is promoting David Knopfler's tour? I'd say that is a step in the right direction, not?
wow, it may be a small step for the non-believers, but a giant step for mankind!
nah, seriously, it is indeed VERY surprising!!
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One of my contacts was checking ticket prices and found the 8th row at the Santa Barbara Bowl being shown as $280. He wasn't clear but I wondered if this was one of those "golden tickets" that offer a few (fairly minor) extras. Does anyone know if the people getting the front seats have to be on those packages?
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Oh, wow. An MK/BD tour in the U.S. is exciting. I do hope, like some people have already mentioned, that there is a lot of well-rehearsed collaboration this time around. MK really could add a whole lot to Bob's songs if done properly.
The gig in Grand Prairie, TX will be closest to me... but even then, it'll be like a 4 hour or more drive. I was still surprised, though, 'cuz it's a whole lot closer than any show in the Get Lucky Tour.
I do want to go, as I've never attended an MK show in person before... but at the same time, November is a bad time for me, being in the middle of the fall semester when I'll have tons of homework in my classes.
Whether or not I go will probably depend on the setlist and the amount of time both Mark and Bob are onstage together!
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dude, once in a lifetime, get out there!! :o
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dude, once in a lifetime, get out there!! :o
Pottel is so right ! :)
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Whether or not I go will probably depend on the setlist and the amount of time both Mark and Bob are onstage together!
No! Mark has to be seen live, the setlist has nothing to do with it. He could play the same stuff as 2010 or 2011, I still would go... but the pond is between us, so I have to wait until next year. This band of Mark's is so tight, you really should attend one show at least! So, "Go, Love"!! ;D
LE
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LE is completely right. Who cares about a setlist.
In the European leg last year it was 1 hour Mark, 1 1/4 hour Bob with Mark playing 3 to 4 songs in Bob's set.
And you may know: MK doesn't need rehearsal for this, hisplaying with Bob was great.
Whether or not I go will probably depend on the setlist and the amount of time both Mark and Bob are onstage together!
No! Mark has to be seen live, the setlist has nothing to do with it. He could play the same stuff as 2010 or 2011, I still would go... but the pond is between us, so I have to wait until next year. This band of Mark's is so tight, you really should attend one show at least! So, "Go, Love"!! ;D
LE
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Unfortunately at the show I saw last year (the first Glasgow show) Mark didn't play with Dylan at all, that only started a few nights later- but it was still well worth going! So if you've got the chance to go, take it!!
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Oh man, thanks for all the encouragement! I probably should do my best to go see it regardless of homework and prices. I'm trying to save my money, but... then again, what else should money be saved for but to see MK live?
I guess I should realize that even if it's the same setlist I've seen hundreds of times on Youtube, it'll still be a completely new experience seeing it in person.
And Ingrid, I agree that MK's playing on BD's songs last tour was great. I listen to the bootlegs of Bob's songs just to hear Mark's guitar. ;D
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He won't do too many tours anymore, keep that in mind. I mean at long sight. He's 62 now and (usually) needs two between the tours. Although he has toured 2010, 2011, now 2012 and for sure next year 2013, so my argument is maybe a little weak... ;D
LE
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2011 & 2012 doesn't count... Just two months tour ;D
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hi LE,
I agree with you in a way, he is not the youngest anymore ;), but maybe that will be the reason for doing more shows than before. Kind of "last minute panic" ;) ;)
Sorry if that sounds mean to you....it`s the heat, we are not uses to such a heat here in Nothern Germany ;)
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You're telling me!! :D 8) :P
LE
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You're telling me!! :D 8) :P
LE
That's two days sunshine in a row we've had here. Time to ditch the cashmere jumper I think! 8)
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Excited for this :D
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Just heard the "Early roman kings" from the new Bob Dylan
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I heard it a couple of days ago and I must say I was most unimpressed! It sounds like hundreds of other blues songs he and many other bluesmen have done - nothing original at all. I hope the rest of the album is better. MK's album is much more impressive imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHLsThejspo
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I heard it a couple of days ago and I must say I was most unimpressed! It sounds like hundreds of other blues songs he and many other bluesmen have done - nothing original at all. I hope the rest of the album is better. MK's album is much more impressive imo.
There is one 14 minutes song about the Titanic, apparently inspired by the movie...
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I heard it a couple of days ago and I must say I was most unimpressed! It sounds like hundreds of other blues songs he and many other bluesmen have done - nothing original at all. I hope the rest of the album is better. MK's album is much more impressive imo.
There is one 14 minutes song about the Titanic, apparently inspired by the movie...
With 45 verses!
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I heard it a couple of days ago and I must say I was most unimpressed! It sounds like hundreds of other blues songs he and many other bluesmen have done - nothing original at all. I hope the rest of the album is better. MK's album is much more impressive imo.
There is one 14 minutes song about the Titanic, apparently inspired by the movie...
With 45 verses!
and mentioning Leoooooooo, the king of the woooorllllddd
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A Night to Remember was a far better film - quite moving at times too - which was also at least historically accurate as well instead of focussing on the romance between the two leads.
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I like Early Roman Kings for what I was able to hear so far (there was this stupid movie trailer with very much shooting and talking noise... I think it is classic blues of course, yeah, but Bob still has it, and he mixes classic blues obviously with some Mexican accordion if I heard it correctly... I will give the album a try of course... He did long songs already, "Highlands" for example, and it is good fun to listen to all those lyrics...
LE
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Well, I have to say that I find the Early Roman Kings as a stupid song, I mean, its a standard blues, played by ANYBODY that has ever played a blues even without the faintest idea of how to play a blues, with new lyrics that are, at least to me, pretty boring and meaningless.
Even the lyrics has a meaning, it will be a very poor and standard song. Dylan could have released a box with 7 discs full of songs like this.
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... He did long songs already, "Highlands" for example, and it is good fun to listen to all those lyrics...
LE
A very good song for insomniacs! Better than a sleeping pill... zzzzzzzz :)
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What's wrong with your "stars" anyway? Pottel is a 8-stars-general Voldemort now...
::)
LE
Hey I am Titanium, too! Wtf...
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And Val just a master of puppets...
Pottel is missing his holydays!!!!
:lol :lol :lol
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Hehe! Just noticed the new titles! Lots of newborns, toddlers, etc! I presume mine is from Metallica's album? 8) Shouldn't I be Mistress of Puppets? ;D
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lol, as said, am open for suggestions
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There was a time in my life when I had a car journey of just under one hour, driving north through the wonderful Scottish border country in the morning and back in the evening. These were not the Scottish Highlands but the Southern Scottish Uplands. This coincided with the release of TIME OUT OF MIND, so I played it fairly constantly on that journey. Almost invariably my journey ended just as "Can't Wait" finished and just before "Highlands" began, so I tend to disconnect the song from the album.
No "Highlands" either in the car or outside.
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There was a time in my life when I had a car journey of just under one hour, driving north through the wonderful Scottish border country in the morning and back in the evening. These were not the Scottish Highlands but the Southern Scottish Uplands. This coincided with the release of TIME OUT OF MIND, so I played it fairly constantly on that journey. Almost invariably my journey ended just as "Can't Wait" finished and just before "Highlands" began, so I tend to disconnect the song from the album.
No "Highlands" either in the car or outside.
I do suppose that this had been a pretty picturesque journey every morning. But - as I know by myself - one tends to think of the office and tries to get there as quick as possible.
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Yes, indeed. Up the A7 road to the Border towns.
Here's a bit of trivia for you. Before motorways, all the main roads in England and Wales (A1, A2, A3, A4, A5 and A6 roads) started from London and all the main roads in Scotland (the A7, A8 and A9) started from Edinburgh. Other than those two cities, only one other city in Britain had more than one of those roads. That was Carlisle, where the A6 and the A7 both terminated.
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Highlands is a great song, and not just because it mentions Aberdeen. :)
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Time out of mind was the album that brought me "back" to bobby
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Well, I have to say that I find the Early Roman Kings as a stupid song, I mean, its a standard blues, played by ANYBODY that has ever played a blues even without the faintest idea of how to play a blues, with new lyrics that are, at least to me, pretty boring and meaningless.
Even the lyrics has a meaning, it will be a very poor and standard song. Dylan could have released a box with 7 discs full of songs like this.
The beat is Hoochie Coochie Man...
Not sure it's as bad as you're suggesting, just Bob doing his thing in surrealism. Nothing new, no surprise. :)
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Highlands is a great song, and not just because it mentions Aberdeen. :)
I like Highlands too, but it is a bit soporific. Not for listening to whilst at the wheel, especially towards the end of a long journey! ;)
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Nothing new, no surprise. :)
That's one of the main problems - it was expected that Bob was going to do something different with Tempest - we will know more when we hear the rest of the songs, of course. So far it just sounds like lots of other songs he has done.
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Highlands is a great song, and not just because it mentions Aberdeen. :)
But Aberdeen was never in the Highlands it was in Grampian - as you'll well know! :)
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Highlands is a great song, and not just because it mentions Aberdeen. :)
But Aberdeen was never in the Highlands it was in Grampian - as you'll well know! :)
Of course :lol
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Has anybody ever heard about a guy called Level Knopfler (not to be confused with Levon Helm)? Well, he's touring with Bob this autumn: http://music-blank.blogspot.ch/2012/06/bob-dylan-and-level-knopfler-trip.html
:lol
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Wtf? LoL
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Bros in Hands...
Google translate's your friend...
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Oh my gosh. This cracked me up big time! How do you turn Mark into "Level"????????????? LOL!!!
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Just heard the "Early roman kings" from the new Bob Dylan
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... He did long songs already, "Highlands" for example, and it is good fun to listen to all those lyrics...
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A very good song for insomniacs! Better than a sleeping pill... zzzzzzzz :)
Hmmm- Need to disagree here. The original studio version maybe didn't set the heather on fire (in a manner of speaking ;)) but the few live performances are rather fine I think. Try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91S_8c4Bu_A
He did the song at a concert in Glasgow in 2000 when, instead of "listening to Neil Young" he pleased the local audience by "listening to Annie Lennox". Haven't found that one on YouTube yet...
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Hmmm- Need to disagree here. The original studio version maybe didn't set the heather on fire (in a manner of speaking ;)) but the few live performances are rather fine I think. Try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91S_8c4Bu_A
He did the song at a concert in Glasgow in 2000 when, instead of "listening to Neil Young" he pleased the local audience by "listening to Annie Lennox". Haven't found that one on YouTube yet...
Hey, cool video. Never seen that. Liked it!
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... He did long songs already, "Highlands" for example, and it is good fun to listen to all those lyrics...
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A very good song for insomniacs! Better than a sleeping pill... zzzzzzzz :)
Hmmm- Need to disagree here. The original studio version maybe didn't set the heather on fire (in a manner of speaking ;)) but the few live performances are rather fine I think. Try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91S_8c4Bu_A
He did the song at a concert in Glasgow in 2000 when, instead of "listening to Neil Young" he pleased the local audience by "listening to Annie Lennox". Haven't found that one on YouTube yet...
Oh, I DO like it - I think I said so in the post following that one! It's just one of those songs that are kind of linear and long, with not much change in tempo, etc and easy to drift off to after a busy or stressful day! I like the video btw! :)
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The original Highlands is superb, though not something I would listen to every day. It's a pearl to keep hidden and bring forth into the light only when you really need it.
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... He did long songs already, "Highlands" for example, and it is good fun to listen to all those lyrics...
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A very good song for insomniacs! Better than a sleeping pill... zzzzzzzz :)
Hmmm- Need to disagree here. The original studio version maybe didn't set the heather on fire (in a manner of speaking ;)) but the few live performances are rather fine I think. Try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91S_8c4Bu_A
He did the song at a concert in Glasgow in 2000 when, instead of "listening to Neil Young" he pleased the local audience by "listening to Annie Lennox". Haven't found that one on YouTube yet...
Oh, I DO like it - I think I said so in the post following that one! It's just one of those songs that are kind of linear and long, with not much change in tempo, etc and easy to drift off to after a busy or stressful day! I like the video btw! :)
Fair comment actually- I don't think I'd like to listen to the original version on a long car journey either! :)
And after going back to my iPod playlists I've realised that the original version isn't in my "Dylan studio" playlist, but the Glasgow 2000 version is in my "Dylan Live" playlist- must say something...
PS- glad you like the video.
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am i the only one not using the playlist functionality in itunes? i either shuffle through my hundreds of gigs of stuff or i select a specific album ???
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Depends on the mood- I often select specific albums- today has been "Get Lucky" for example- but in some moods/circumstances I'll opt for a playlist. If I'm going on a long drive, longer than a single album, rather than fumble about changing albums I'll set a playlist going that I know will be long enough to see me through to the end. Or if we have friends round for an evening, a good mixture playlist can keep everyone happy through. I've also got a playlist of gentle stuff which I think of as my "morning after the night before", nothing too loud if you get my drift...
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fully get your drift bob :-)
i just like the uncertainty of the thousands of songs that can pop up next whilst using the shuffle functionality.
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RB has posted on Twitter that rehearsals start in London in 2 weeks time. I think that means that the Americans are unlikely to be playing at the Amazon promo gig at the end of September.
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This time he is going to play very big venues. I mean all the big NBA and Hokey arenas which have a capacity +15.000. So the setlist must be change this time. He shouldn't play the haul away, DWB, the fish and the bird, prairie wedding and so on...
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This time he is going to play very big venues. I mean all the big NBA and Hokey arenas which have a capacity +15.000. So the setlist must be change this time. He shouldn't play the haul away, DWB, the fish and the bird, prairie wedding and so on...
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Do you wanna bet?
;D ;D
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This time he is going to play very big venues. I mean all the big NBA and Hokey arenas which have a capacity +15.000. So the setlist must be change this time. He shouldn't play the haul away, DWB, the fish and the bird, prairie wedding and so on...
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Do you wanna bet?
;D ;D
:lol Well i know it sounds like a dream, naive dream but the man shocking us recenly so i wanna believe this. And we have the fact, if he play haul away or any other more celtic stuff(slow ones) whole arena can sleep with peace rest of the concert.
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Don't get me wrong i like very much Haul Away and his celtic stuff but i'd be happy if he play early DS songs this time. Setting me up, wild west end, private investigations, news, portobello belle, love over gold... Ohh man tons of perfect song!! :P
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Don't get me wrong i like very much Haul Away and his celtic stuff but i'd be happy if he play early DS songs this time. Setting me up, wild west end, private investigations, news, portobello belle, love over gold... Ohh man tons of perfect song!! :P
Then i am afraid you better save your money and go to
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Don't get me wrong i like very much Haul Away and his celtic stuff but i'd be happy if he play early DS songs this time. Setting me up, wild west end, private investigations, news, portobello belle, love over gold... Ohh man tons of perfect song!! :P
Then i am afraid you better save your money and go to
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In a MK solo tour, I
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I think it was one of the coolest thing MK has done in years and I really was proud for him when he started the Dylan tour last year and played nearly no Dire Straits stuff at all at the first shows...
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I think it was one of the coolest thing MK has done in years and I really was proud for him when he started the Dylan tour last year and played nearly no Dire Straits stuff at all at the first shows...
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Before the MK/BD tour began, I was reading ER to see their comments about MK and they were saying things about him playing the hit-parade stuff etc so I was so pleased that he did hardly any of those. apart from BIA and So Far Away! I think it was a very courageous thing for him to have done!
Personally, I would like to hear more of the songs from his new album and other solo songs I haven't heard before!
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In a MK solo tour, I
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Personally, I would like to hear more of the songs from his new album and other solo songs I haven't heard before!
Exactly! Me, too. Fare Thee Well Northumberland..., 5.15 am, ;), and really most of the new stuff seems to be able to sound good live!
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Dont get me wrong, I always rather see a MK concert full of his solo stuff, but I consider that when playing for an audience of Dylan fans that probably only know your hits, he should play the hits...
But I admire him because he didnt that last autumm, and also could be a nice way to introduce Dylan fans into his solo catalogue... I dont know it that will work with the North American Dylan fans... In Glasgow several of the Dylan fans went to the bar when they realised they didnt know the songs...
And better for me, plenty of space to move, and breathe :lol
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In Glasgow several of the Dylan fans went to the bar when they realised they didnt know the songs...
Nope. Let me tell you the story about that bar : they went to the bar when they realised the bar the bar would close early. ;D
In Braehead, don't expect a drink after the show. You must supply yourself before, obviously during Mark's set.
I've seen strange things in my life, I've seen many venues and I have to say Braehead Arena remains a mystery to me.
The second night, I decided to get out in the middle of Bob's set. :-[
No offense to Bob, I was very sorry to leave, the show was so great, but you know, I won't tell you how it's easy to catch taxi up there....
So I left after BWMT and I went to the bar to get a beer.
"Sorry Sir, we are closed..." It's 10:45PM , 7'000 potential thirsty clients ready to rush out and you close your bar. Unbelievable. :disbelief
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What would you expect from a venue that its inside a commercial mall and you have to queue around loads of people that are having dinner and looking at you kinda "What a bunch of freaks"...
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I'm ok to go back again. I know exactly what to do and how to do it. ;D
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I'm ok to go back again. I know exactly what to do and how to do it. ;D
I´m not saying I wont be back there. I´d rather go to the SECC, although I´d never been there, looks more like a venue that the Braehead...
It was a really bizarre experience to enter a commercial mall, and follow the signals to the venue. I´m used to enter directly to the venues from the street ;D
Not to mention the taxi´s waiting... If I´ll go back there, I´ll bring some taxi phone numbers with me, and I will call them from the outside ;D
By the way... Those NA venues are really big ones... Does DB fan base fit them?
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The SECC isn't a great venue either IMO, at least for acoustics. The Clyde Auditorium where he played in 2001 was very nice I thought.
Ray Davies is using The Royal Concert Hall in October which is situated right in the city centre. I've never been there but that might be a good venue for Mark in Glasgow, however I think The Edinburgh Playhouse is fantastic for his next visit to Scotland.
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Are not the SECC and the Clyde the same thing? I mean, the Armadilo thing...
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Are not the SECC and the Clyde the same thing? I mean, the Armadilo thing...
They're operated by the same people but two separate venues. The SECC has 4 halls and is used for exhibitions as well as concerts. The Armadilo has just a stage and seating. the SECC has been there since the mid/late 80s but the Armidilo is a far more recent building.
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Playhouse is great :D
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I love the Playhouse too. I hope it's one of the venues in 2013, if so I'll be there!
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Yes, the venues they selected for DC, Boston, Philly, and NY are huge arenas. It's very different as MK hasn't played in venues of this size in the US since the OES tour.
I don't understand the reasoning behind selecting these huge venues for the NA tour this fall. BD was in Rochester MN (Mayo Clinic's home) within the last month so lots of his fans must have gone to that concert at a much smaller venue than is being offered just up the road in St. Paul/November when BD and MK tour together. I can't see that these places will fill. Nothing more lonely than attending a concert that is sparsely attended (or seemingly so because of the inappropriateness of the size of the venue).
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Does anyone think Mark will be given an extended slot this time? Last time it was just over 70 mins but since he isn't touring NA this time in 2013 he might want to use this as a time to play new songs and some older ones too. Maybe a 90 min concert with Sultans and R&J this time. Just a thought, and it would make sense for Mark. I guess it's up to Mr Bob.
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"dmg" has got it right.
The SECC and Armadillo are right on the River Clyde and quite close to the city centre. Though not right in the centre, they are walkable - not the most scenic of walks, though the walk along the Clyde is not too bad. There is also a train station quite close to them - just one stop from Central Station, though you have to go down underneath the main station to get to the right platform.
If you can afford to stay at the Crowne Plaza Hotel on the site, there is a covered walkway right from the hotel to the SECC.
Also, from one of the lifts in the Crowne Plaza (the right hand one) you can look down on the Armadillo from above, which is an unusual viewpoint.
I was once in that lift and saw a seaplane approaching to land on the River Clyde (there is a tourist service to Loch Lomond and out to the west coast of Scotland). It is a very odd sensation to be in a building and to look down on a plane landing. Even odder than being in the World Trade Center (as was) and looking down on helicopters flying along the Hudson.
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I'm ok to go back again. I know exactly what to do and how to do it. ;D
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I think it was one of the coolest thing MK has done in years and I really was proud for him when he started the Dylan tour last year and played nearly no Dire Straits stuff at all at the first shows...
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I agree- and as a fan of both, I could enjoy both halves of the concert. Unfortunately, not all the Dylan fans agree, but then again I doubt if you would get agreement amongst Dylan fans on anything...
And it seems some American fans regard Mark and DS as the same thing- over on ER in the discussion section on Dylan's current solo tour there was a comment "Some guy behind us wanted to know where Dire Straits was at because they were supposed to be with Bob"...it seems as if Mark may have an uphill struggle if this is what people expect.
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The SECC and Armadillo are right on the River Clyde and quite close to the city centre. Though not right in the centre, they are walkable - not the most scenic of walks, though the walk along the Clyde is not too bad. There is also a train station quite close to them - just one stop from Central Station, though you have to go down underneath the main station to get to the right platform.
If you can afford to stay at the Crowne Plaza Hotel on the site, there is a covered walkway right from the hotel to the SECC.
Also, from one of the lifts in the Crowne Plaza (the right hand one) you can look down on the Armadillo from above, which is an unusual viewpoint.
I remember way back in ?1991/2 going to DS at SECC as we were on hols in Scotland, the concert was in small venue and I stood near the front. End of OES tour.
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The SECC and Armadillo are right on the River Clyde and quite close to the city centre. Though not right in the centre, they are walkable - not the most scenic of walks, though the walk along the Clyde is not too bad. There is also a train station quite close to them - just one stop from Central Station, though you have to go down underneath the main station to get to the right platform.
If you can afford to stay at the Crowne Plaza Hotel on the site, there is a covered walkway right from the hotel to the SECC.
Also, from one of the lifts in the Crowne Plaza (the right hand one) you can look down on the Armadillo from above, which is an unusual viewpoint.
I remember way back in ?1991/2 going to DS at SECC as we were on hols in Scotland, the concert was in small venue and I stood near the front. End of OES tour.
I was there on Friday 13th September! They played 4 nights. It was only the start of the tour, this was the next venue after the album was released (it being released during their run at Birmingham prior to Glasgow).
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Yes, right start of tour. Good to have a smaller venue. Only time I have stood at the front. I think Wembley had sold out, couldn't get tickets. :)
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I think it was one of the coolest thing MK has done in years and I really was proud for him when he started the Dylan tour last year and played nearly no Dire Straits stuff at all at the first shows...
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I agree- and as a fan of both, I could enjoy both halves of the concert. Unfortunately, not all the Dylan fans agree, but then again I doubt if you would get agreement amongst Dylan fans on anything...
And it seems some American fans regard Mark and DS as the same thing- over on ER in the discussion section on Dylan's current solo tour there was a comment "Some guy behind us wanted to know where Dire Straits was at because they were supposed to be with Bob"...it seems as if Mark may have an uphill struggle if this is what people expect.
agree! Not much agreement there
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Do you believe Mark will sing "ROMEO & JULIET" this Autumn in US?
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Nope...suspect that will be left for the solo Euro Tour in 2013......
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Do you believe Mark will sing "ROMEO & JULIET" this Autumn in US?
Do you know, I think he very well might. I think he will play a few well known numbers and perhaps even get more than 70 minutes this time too!
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Also as it is The States; different crowd.
Last year was Amazing & this year will be amazing as well :D
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Also as it is The States; different crowd.
Last year was Amazing & this year will be amazing as well :D
who da chicks on your avatar Shooting star?
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I've been listening to some of Bob's leaked songs and on "Scarlet Town" there is a very nice little solo and to me, it seems remarkably like MK, has anyone heard it? :)
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Also as it is The States; different crowd.
Last year was Amazing & this year will be amazing as well :D
who da chicks on your avatar Shooting star?
You asked that many times and never got answer...
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I've been listening to some of Bob's leaked songs and on "Scarlet Town" there is a very nice little solo and to me, it seems remarkably like MK, has anyone heard it? :)
I thought so as well but if so, that info hasn't come out in any of the advance blurb for "Tempest"- and there has been plenty of that. Maybe recorded at some point on last autumn's tour and overdubbed? We'll find out for sure in 8 days time!
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Just heard the "Early roman kings" from the new Bob Dylan
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Rehearsals started
From https://twitter.com/PCMmanagement
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A18LsoZCQAERxR9.jpg)
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what event are they talking about??
http://twitter.com/PCMmanagement/status/243699934346485760/photo/1
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that pic is from sept. 4th.
so been going on since monday, as guy mentioned.
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I've been away today and got home late but TEMPEST was awaiting me - too late to play now. Also, we have visitors arriving tomorrow for the weekend and will be out all day on Monday. Somehow, I have to fit TEMPEST in. I can only say that, amongst a group of Dylan fans who keep in contact with one another and who have been, for the most part, highly critical of his recent output, the general opinion is that this is one of his better albums - some say for at least a decade!
Also busy trying to make arrangements to catch a couple of Dylan/Knopfler shows in November. Not sure how to use the pre-sale on Monday when away from home - may have to depend on an internet cafe or something. It sounds a bit dodgy, though.
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On Sunday, John McCusker twittered that he left to go to London to start rehearsals for the MK/BD tour for next three weeks! Now I really wonder:
They did a two months tour last autumn and will probably play the same stuff more or less - don't you find it remarkable that they really need to rehearse for THREE weeks for this? Or should it be a hint for new stuff to be played - now that the album is out?
What do you think? They rehearsed not even two weeks for the Emmylou tour if I remember correctly, and I think that set seemed to be much more complicated because of Emmy's contributions...
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On Sunday, John McCusker twittered that he left to go to London to start rehearsals for the MK/BD tour for next three weeks! Now I really wonder:
They did a two months tour last autumn and will probably play the same stuff more or less - don't you find it remarkable that they really need to rehearse for THREE weeks for this? Or should it be a hint for new stuff to be played - now that the album is out?
What do you think? They rehearsed not even two weeks for the Emmylou tour if I remember correctly, and I think that set seemed to be much more complicated because of Emmy's contributions...
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That's a whole lot of tea drinking!
Back to your point and I'd say it's valid. Maybe some new ones, maybe some oldies too. I really think Mark may play more DS on this one and maybe even have a slightly bigger slot to make it more of a 50/50 show.
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Just listened to Bob Dylan "Tempest" and its quite nice, despite his voice, is very easy to listen and enjoyable.
I hope MK plays with him in any of those songs this next tour.
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Just listened to Bob Dylan "Tempest" and its quite nice, despite his voice, is very easy to listen and enjoyable.
I hope MK plays with him in any of those songs this next tour.
I have listened this afternoon for about the 4th time. I like "Duquesne Whistle", "Scarlet Town", "Narrow Way" and one or two others, but I found "Tempest", "Tin Angel" and "Roll On John" never-ending. Long doesn't necessarily mean better! J J Cale can tell a story in less than 3 minutes!
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I've been listening to some of Bob's leaked songs and on "Scarlet Town" there is a very nice little solo and to me, it seems remarkably like MK, has anyone heard it? :)
I thought so as well but if so, that info hasn't come out in any of the advance blurb for "Tempest"- and there has been plenty of that. Maybe recorded at some point on last autumn's tour and overdubbed? We'll find out for sure in 8 days time!
It seems it isn't- someone asked Guy this on his forum and it's a definite no. Pity.
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I've been listening to some of Bob's leaked songs and on "Scarlet Town" there is a very nice little solo and to me, it seems remarkably like MK, has anyone heard it? :)
I thought so as well but if so, that info hasn't come out in any of the advance blurb for "Tempest"- and there has been plenty of that. Maybe recorded at some point on last autumn's tour and overdubbed? We'll find out for sure in 8 days time!
It seems it isn't- someone asked Guy this on his forum and it's a definite no. Pity.
It was me! ;D
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Today John McCusler twitted a picture of Richard Bennett playing Pedal Steel Guitar...
Its looking very interesting :)
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Today John McCusler twitted a picture of Richard Bennett playing Pedal Steel Guitar...
Its looking very interesting :)
The picture:
(http://c0014484.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_e93be18)
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So they have a pedal steel guitar on their rehearsal set... which means it will probably be a slightly other set-up for the forthcoming tour(s)??
Guy has not revealed yet who's in the band by the way..
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So they have a pedal steel guitar on their rehearsal set... which means it will probably be a slightly other set-up for the forthcoming tour(s)??
Guy has not revealed yet who's in the band by the way..
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I assume it will be the same band, when there are changes he used to tell that the band will have some changes...
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So you would think that Richard indeed would play pedal steel? Don't you think that in that case a rhythm guitar part would be missing? Just thinkin...
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So you would think that Richard indeed would play pedal steel? Don't you think that in that case a rhythm guitar part would be missing? Just thinkin...
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McCuskeer and McGoldrick both can play rythmic guitar as well...
And if its needed, Guy himself.
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Ok,
I had a look at McCusker's twitter account, and he writes "Richard with HIS pedal steel guitar".. So you are probably right... Nice addition though.
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I have a sneaky feeling "the best pedal steel guitar player in the world...Mr Paaaaaaaul Franklin" will join them. Someone mentioned it on Guy's forum and he didn't deny it. A lot of the songs would benefit from it and some really would struggle without it.
Richard might just be filling in because PF is busy right now and can't make rehearsals at the moment, but I'm sure a world class musician like PF can pick up quickly. Now we know what they were doing on their laptops in that picture; they were setting up Skype so PF can interact with rehearsals from Nashville! :lol
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Really?
Do you really think that MK is gonna have three "Additional" musicians for touring?
I still can
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Really?
Do you really think that MK is gonna have three "Additional" musicians for touring?
I still can
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Re TEMPEST:
I agree that "long doesn't necessarily mean better" but perceived length can differ from actual length. As well as the quantitative element, I suspect you are applying a qualitative judgement, too. After all, "Roll On, John", which was not to your liking, is the same length, give or take a few seconds either way, as both "Narrow Way" and "Scarlet Town", which you favoured more [7.25; 7.28; and 7.17 respectively].
All three are about the same length as "Visions of Johanna" incidentally. "Desolation Row" and "Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands", from the same "classic" 1965-1966 period, both lasted over 11 minutes. "Highlands" (from TIME OUT OF MIND) lasted over 16 minutes and was much favoured by many but, for reasons I elaborated in another thread, I listened to this less than the rest of the album. "Brownsville Girl", on the pretty poor KNOCKED OUT LOADED album, also got favourable comment and it lasted 11 minutes.
"Scarlet Town" (and "Tin Angel" for that matter) updates, rewrites and transforms an old ballad - and some of those old ballads went on for-ever-and-ever (and ever and ever) without mercy.
Finaally, while I acknowledge the practicality, efficacy and ubiquity of the CD, its format has had an effect on recorded music. The CD offers more time to the performer and listeners feel deprived if that they don't get a pretty full album, not always to the benefit of the quality of the content. By way of contrast, an LP forced the listener to take a break, roughly half way through, in order to turn the LP over. This could be a bad thing (especially for classical music recordings) but so often I found that break to be beneficial. After 4 or 5 songs on a new album, it was a chance to take stock before pressing on. And it was a chance for the performer to structure the album, too.
Therefore, while I know it is not exactly the same thing, I somewhat admire Mark for making PRIVATEERING an album of 2 CDs, each roughly 45 minutes long (or LP length). He could have excluded one or two tracks from PRIVATEERING and produced one 80-minute CD. As it is clear from the bonus CD that he had more material, he could have made each CD a little longer, perhaps 55 to 60 minutes long. But no, he turned out two nicely balanced discs, with a chance to absorb the first before playing the second. Retro Mark. [Re-Mark-able? Mark-nificent?]
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A Mark interview, though the headline is not exactly accurate :
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/mark-knopfler-how-i-fit-bob-dylan-in-around-the-school-run-8142919.html
Mark mixes present and past tenses, so it isn't entirely clear when he is talking about the last tour with Dylan and when the next one. It looks, however, as though the coming tour will be much like the last one, possibly with more Mark in the Dylan set.
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Nice interview, thanks TWM
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On Sunday, John McCusker twittered that he left to go to London to start rehearsals for the MK/BD tour for next three weeks! Now I really wonder:
They did a two months tour last autumn and will probably play the same stuff more or less - don't you find it remarkable that they really need to rehearse for THREE weeks for this? Or should it be a hint for new stuff to be played - now that the album is out?
What do you think? They rehearsed not even two weeks for the Emmylou tour if I remember correctly, and I think that set seemed to be much more complicated because of Emmy's contributions...
LE
New songs, new 'old' songs in sets & Bob duets.
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On Sunday, John McCusker twittered that he left to go to London to start rehearsals for the MK/BD tour for next three weeks! Now I really wonder:
They did a two months tour last autumn and will probably play the same stuff more or less - don't you find it remarkable that they really need to rehearse for THREE weeks for this? Or should it be a hint for new stuff to be played - now that the album is out?
What do you think? They rehearsed not even two weeks for the Emmylou tour if I remember correctly, and I think that set seemed to be much more complicated because of Emmy's contributions...
LE
New songs, new 'old' songs in sets & Bob duets.
^hey shooting star,....who ARE those girls :-)
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"We're doing 75 minutes each, then I've got time to get back on and play with Bob for a few songs. We had fun in Europe, the bands get on great and the crews get on great."
75 each this time????
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We have finally committed to a holiday in the States in late November, with the aim of getting to two shows. I shall be bitterly disappointed if we don't get to hear new songs from both those old buffers, preferably a batch of new songs each.
In fact, I'd just love it it if the two of them played nothing but songs from their new albums. Both albums are about the right length. Straight through, in track order. Brilliant - brilliant - brilliant! Both artists making statements - "You may know us from our past achievements but we can still do it and do it really well and we're gonna prove it to you". Seventh heaven for me. Maybe limit the old stuff to the encores.
I would also love it if various members of the two bands joined one another on stage, not just Mark joining Dylan. That could be quite something.
POSTSCRIPT: Incidentally, if you haven't yet read the Dylan interview in the new issue of ROLLING STONE, then you're in for some fireworks - no gentle PR soft soap here but some really fierce broadsides berating fans and crtics alike. Plus some of the usual weirdness - only more so than ever! Read the interview and think about those same comments in the light of the new album. Incendiary stuff! Coruscating!
For example - ask why write a song about John Lennon (George Harrison was more of a friend)? And why now? Well, here's an idea. Dylan is really pissed off (please forgive my language) that fans have criticised him for plagiarism, a practice he defends strongly. He rails against fans in this ROLLING STONE interview. Then, years later and angry about fan reactions to his recent material, Dylan recalls that, in October 1979, Mark Chapman sought an autograph from him (there is a photo showing this) and, a little over a year later, Chapman does the same with Lennon, before shooting him. Fans turn on the artist. Fans cannot be trusted. Lenoon's death on his mind, he writes a song. It's what songwriters do. [And one of the earlier songs on TEMPEST quotes "Twist and shout"]
Just a thought!
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Thanks for the link.
Wow, I'm impressed Mark gets up to make breakfast for the kids ! I can relate with the routines of taking of kids, except I"m the one making breakfast and taking kids to school. :)
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wow, never knew bout the chapman angle...scary man...
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Yes with 75 M we have time for new songs and some Greatest Hits from each artist.
I feel "Romeo & Juliet" :)
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Did anyone heard that rumour about a second Chicago show in a smaller venue?
I received it in some mails from google news but there is not any update in any of the official sites...
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Did anyone heard that rumour about a second Chicago show in a smaller venue?
I received it in some mails from google news but there is not any update in any of the official sites...
It's been discussed on ER, but I don't think anything has been confirmed. I presume it is for Bob only!
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From time to time, Dylan does kick off a tour with a small venue gig, just to warm the band up.
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Interesting thought indeed that this band really should need to be warmed up... after all those years... ;)
LE
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From time to time, Dylan does kick off a tour with a small venue gig, just to warm the band up.
That second Chicago date would be during the NA tour with MK, so I wonder what they need to warm up a band that its already playing gigs
;D ;D
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and what about "production rehearsal" scheduled for today?
Guy said they will fly to Chicago .... so....
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According to John McCusker's tweets they are in Chicago already since Oct. 2. Production rehearsal will mean a complete run through the set with all light, sound, monitoring, guitar switches etc... This can only take place where the stage is, so to say, so not in a London rehearsal room but somewhere near the first gig probably.
LE
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They usually do that in London, at Bray Studios (where some old horror movies were made long ago) and sometimes they do that on the same venue of the first gig, as everything is there ready...
Their first show is in Winnipeg, so its about 15 hours drive from Chicago (according to Google Maps), strange.
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They usually do that in London, at Bray Studios (where some old horror movies were made long ago) and sometimes they do that on the same venue of the first gig, as everything is there ready...
Their first show is in Winnipeg, so its about 15 hours drive from Chicago (according to Google Maps), strange.
It was the famous Hammer Films that used these studios, famous for films with Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee and most especially their Dracula series.
Richard is from Chicago - do you think the decision had anything to do with that?
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I dont think that it has anything to do with Richard being from Chicago... Maybe they found a good spot to do the production rehearsals in the way to Winnipeg, who knows...
I guess Guy
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I dont think that it has anything to do with Richard being from Chicago... Maybe they found a good spot to do the production rehearsals in the way to Winnipeg, who knows...
I guess Guy