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Title: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on September 23, 2012, 09:51:09 AM
Post here anything related to this show

 :)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on September 26, 2012, 08:50:40 PM
We hope that Marky49 is having a good time today!

Do we have anyone else in this gig?

Lets see what they play tonight.
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Pottel on September 26, 2012, 09:58:14 PM
Bia last song. Kingdom of gold played. Waiting for more....
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on September 26, 2012, 10:00:16 PM
Great news... KIngdom of gold...

I really expected that BIA will be played :)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Pottel on September 26, 2012, 10:32:33 PM
Wii
Cleaning
Hill farmer
Privateering
Redbud
I used to could
Liston S
Knox
Kingdom
Haul
Marble
Bia
Credits go to markywes!
Interesting SETLIST!!!
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on September 26, 2012, 10:36:50 PM
I miss Yon two crows here  :(

Thanks Marky49. I hope she had the chance to record the show  ;)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Love Expresso on September 26, 2012, 10:38:08 PM
Wow! I'd love to hear I Used To Could live! One of my favourites.  . Kingdom of Gold is boring on the album, and the only interesting thing about it are the cool backing vocals. I wonder if Guy is doing them all alone...

And I wonder if Mark changed or extended the Strat Solo on Redbud Tree!

Please, Markywes, report! Pleeeeez!

LE
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on September 26, 2012, 10:42:36 PM
And please Dennis and Marijn, report from yesterday as well!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like Yon two crows is not strong enough in the setlist, I hope they were just trying things.
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on September 26, 2012, 10:59:00 PM
Small comparation between both shows

yesterday                          today

What it is                   What it is
Corned beef city        Cleaning my gun
Yon two Crows           Hill farmer blues
Privateering               Privateering
Redbud tree               Redbud tree
I used to could           I used to could
Sonny liston               Sonny Liston
Marbletown               Knoxville
Knoxville                    Kingdom of gold
Haul away                  Haul away
Hill farmers                Marbletown
Miss you blues           Brothers in arms
So far away

I think yesterday set was more interesting...
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Marikablue on September 26, 2012, 11:00:00 PM
Wii
Cleaning
Hill farmer
Privateering
Redbud
I used to could
Liston S
Knox
Kingdom
Haul
Marble
Bia
Credits go to markywes!
Interesting SETLIST!!!


Hi,

Not a bad set list at all, but I prefer the set played yesterday. Three new on the list......

I think that " Corned Beef " and " Yon Two Crows " should be there instead of " Cleaning " and " Kingdom ". I don't miss " Miss You Blues ", and I'm glad to see " BIA " on the list tonight  :)

Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Marikablue on September 26, 2012, 11:23:15 PM
Three songs played both nights that I could live without  ::)

1) What It Is ( maybe best MK song ever, but never really good played live )
2) Song For Sonny Liston
3) Daddy's Gone To Knoxville
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: knopguitar on September 26, 2012, 11:31:30 PM
Hi all,

Any record from yesterday And today?

Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on September 26, 2012, 11:35:05 PM
Hi all,

Any record from yesterday And today?

Nice first post, welcome to the forum  ;)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: shooting_star_night on September 27, 2012, 12:59:48 AM
Thank you for the setlists :) was just after these :)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Rail King on September 27, 2012, 08:55:40 AM
Wow! I'd love to hear I Used To Could live! One of my favourites.  . Kingdom of Gold is boring on the album, and the only interesting thing about it are the cool backing vocals. I wonder if Guy is doing them all alone...

And I wonder if Mark changed or extended the Strat Solo on Redbud Tree!

Please, Markywes, report! Pleeeeez!

LE

Thanks for the setlist
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Love Expresso on September 27, 2012, 11:19:29 AM
I tend to be contradictory about Privteering for some weeks now. Some day I like this, some day I hate the other. Seems to proof that it is really a strong album!  :lol  What I know for sure is that Corned Beef City is not at the right place and really spoils the flow of music on the first album, and that I still cannot love Blood And Water. The rest ...changes. Even After The Beanstalk made some impression on me last night. Mark sings it rather good I thought.

Kingdom of Gold, yes, it is not bad. But not a good opener for the second CD. But who cares, I have all 24 tracks in a row on my stick..

Just thought about this:
At the 2007 KTGC promotion shows, he played True Love, Secondary Waltz, Let It All Go (and fuzzy remember The Fizzy?)  and later on tour The Fish And the Bird... that are 4 (5)  songs from the complete album...  With Get Lucky, he promoted 5 songs over all. So we have more new songs now already after the first two BD rehearsals. I think we are in for a treat next year!  :D

LE
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: superval99 on September 27, 2012, 11:29:41 AM
I tend to be contradictory about Privteering for some weeks now. Some day I like this, some day I hate the other. Seems to proof that it is really a strong album!  :lol  What I know for sure is that Corned Beef City is not at the right place and really spoils the flow of music on the first album, and that I still cannot love Blood And Water. The rest ...changes. Even After The Beanstalk made some impression on me last night. Mark sings it rather good I thought.

Kingdom of Gold, yes, it is not bad. But not a good opener for the second CD. But who cares, I have all 24 tracks in a row on my stick..
LE

I have it on shuffle, including all the bonus tracks, so the sequence of the tracks doesn't matter to me.  That way, I have a surprise every time!   :)

I didn't like "Blood & Water" at first, but it has grown on me and I love the final solo very much. 
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Love Expresso on September 27, 2012, 11:37:03 AM
That shuffle thing might be a good idea. I guess this album has more a "collection" character than a concrete playing-list sort of style. So I think I will try that, too!

LE
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on September 27, 2012, 11:45:13 AM
I think that the sequence of the songs matters... I try to listen to the whole album in the correct order every time I can... although I skip some of the songs (redbud, hot or what, miss you blues, kingdom of gold, blood and water...)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Love Expresso on September 27, 2012, 11:51:55 AM
Btw:

Guy explained something about the special sound of Gator Blood - with drums, room, mic's, etc. I did not really understand it. Was MK standing next to the drums when they recorded them and sang through the drum mic's? Or what did Guy exactly mean with his explanation?   ???

LE
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: superval99 on September 27, 2012, 12:01:56 PM
"Gator Blood" is the only one I'm skipping at the moment - at least until the screechy guitar makes its entry!   It's a good song though, so maybe I should persevere until I'm beaten into submission!    ;)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: schmonka on September 27, 2012, 12:02:49 PM
Goodness - MK must really like Marbletown....its getting rolled out a lot on recent tours....not one of my personal favourites....but hey ho.... :P
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: dmg on September 27, 2012, 12:06:13 PM
I agree with LE about Kingdom only more so - it's a load of rubbish!  Also Schmonka about Marbletown.  I don't know how many time I can patiently sit through yet another one.  Never liked it the first time and I like it a lot less now.  Album version is best.

A shame they weren't treated to SFA last night.  Don't tell me they're bored of playing it!
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: superval99 on September 27, 2012, 12:23:16 PM
Marbletown is probably my favourite song on the RPD album, but I loved the 2010 live version too, probably moreso than 2011, but then I liked everything better in 2010!   

I thought Kingdom of Gold was a bit boring to begin with, but the outro is wonderful. 
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: superval99 on September 27, 2012, 12:38:09 PM
Some more pictures on Guy's diary page.   :)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: joanzimm on September 27, 2012, 12:47:26 PM
Some more pictures on Guy's diary page.   :)

Looks like MK got new boots :)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Pottel on September 27, 2012, 01:00:10 PM
really liked and still love marbletown, the whole going silent thing and then that crescendo, brilliant.
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Marikablue on September 27, 2012, 01:17:00 PM
Hi,

It's always interesting to read the opinions here. Very often really different view on Mark's work.  :)
I think that " Marbletown " is much better played live. The album version is a skipper for me. The song " Kingdom Of Gold " is maybe boring, but I don't think it's a weak song.

I like the guitar work on " Blood And Water ", in fact one of my faves right now. Songs that I hear every time is at this list.

1 ) Redbud Tree
2)  Haul Away
3)  Privateering
4)  Corned Beef City
5)  Go, Love
6)  Yon Two Crows

7)  Got To Have Something
8) Blue Bird
9)  Submariner ( Still the strongest track on the album for me )  ;D
10) Blood And Water
11) Today Is Okay

The last 9 tracks is played more rarely over the last week or two.  :-\

( I haven't placed the cool smiley at Bluebird and I can't remove it )
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Pottel on September 27, 2012, 01:29:14 PM
small (mini) vid from the inside from the german radio station NDR hat joined their winners to london. nothing from the show itself, still. inside!
i believe i see the back of marijn and dennis
http://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/knopflerlondon113.html
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on September 27, 2012, 01:30:31 PM
really liked and still love marbletown, the whole going silent thing and then that crescendo, brilliant.

Pottel, lets go to the point...

As our chairman...

Do you have located recordings of this shows?

 ;D

Come on man, we need them, you know it!!!

 :lol
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Eddie Fox on September 27, 2012, 01:35:33 PM
Btw:

Guy explained something about the special sound of Gator Blood - with drums, room, mic's, etc. I did not really understand it. Was MK standing next to the drums when they recorded them and sang through the drum mic's? Or what did Guy exactly mean with his explanation?   ???

LE

I might be mistaken but my understanding is that they tried and used several different approaches during the recordings. Some songs such as Dream of the Drowned Submariner and Kingdom of Gold seem to have had the instruments recorded separately. Others like Blood and Water and Haul Away sound live but in separate rooms. Gator Blood, if I got it right, was recorded with no isolation at all, the wolf pack playing together in the same room, each mic picking up a bit of everyone's outcome and so on. That's old school sort of recording, which I particulary dislike...
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Eddie Fox on September 27, 2012, 01:41:15 PM
Re the setlists, Sonny Liston, Knoxville and Marbletown make no sense to me anymore.
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: dmg on September 27, 2012, 02:09:29 PM
Re the setlists, Sonny Liston, Knoxville and Marbletown make no sense to me anymore.

Most interesting to me was that Knoxville made it into the set both nights.  Makes sense that it's the sort of song to be played once every three or four shows, but looks like it may be a staple on this tour.  I quite like it.
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Marikablue on September 27, 2012, 02:29:02 PM
I think that " Knoxville " is close to " Beanstalk " on the new album. Songs who haven't a big apeal to me  ::)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: dmg on September 27, 2012, 02:50:01 PM
I think that " Knoxville " is close to " Beanstalk " on the new album. Songs who haven't a big apeal to me  ::)

Yes, kind of bluegrass.  Beanstalk is okay I think but Knoxville is much better.
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: superval99 on September 27, 2012, 03:26:26 PM
Re the setlists, Sonny Liston, Knoxville and Marbletown make no sense to me anymore.

To my knowledge, "Daddy's Gone......"  has only been played live a couple of times - the first night in Amsterdam 2008 and, according to Mossguitar, in Oslo 2006, so it hasn't exactly been overplayed.   I like it!   :)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: dmg on September 27, 2012, 03:42:10 PM
Sonny Liston is played for Bob because it's supposed to be his favourite isn't it?

Marblebore is played to showcase the other band members (if the audience can stay awake long enough)!

Knoxville deserves another chance.
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: a visitor on September 27, 2012, 03:45:27 PM
Knoxville sounds very cabaret too me, almost parodical. Maybe it's the new Done With Bonaparte?

Come to think of it - Dylan has a few songs that are in the style of Knoxville, doesn't he?
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: marky49 on September 27, 2012, 03:59:10 PM
Hi,

Just a few words from me us I'm waiting for boarding...I shoot a car race at Nuerburgring tomorrow.
I met Paul outside the studio and had a quick chat. The complex is an old factory place, in a not so nice area. Guy, Mike and Richard said hello when we were brought in to the rehearsal room and I was standing right infront MK, little bit to the right. No photos allowed and we were watched tight!
The sound was bad at the beginning, MK's guitar very loud, his voice too low. It improved over time.
My favourite was 'kingdom' great playing of MK. Mike also played guitar and drums, Knoxville not my cup of tea.

Guy lost a lot of weight, nice haircut and shaved! :)


Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: dmg on September 27, 2012, 04:15:06 PM
I don't want to sound negative all the time but I'm not keen on too many multi-instumentalists;  jack of all trades, master of none springs to mind.  These guys can't be word class at playing everything, maybe they should just stick to what they specialise in or maybe Mark should just not use them in alien positions.  There is a great drummer and a pretty good guitarist in the band so why is Mike playing drums and guitar?

The factory site was, according to Guy the old Peek Freans biscuit factory!  Inventors of the Twiglet (yuk), garibaldi and the bourbon cream among others.  They don't trade under that name in the UK any more, I think it's United Biscuits.
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: NicoMK on September 27, 2012, 04:33:48 PM
I don't want to sound negative all the time but I'm not keen on too many multi-instumentalists;  jack of all trades, master of none springs to mind.  These guys can't be word class at playing everything, maybe they should just stick to what they specialise in or maybe Mark should just not use them in alien positions.  There is a great drummer and a pretty good guitarist in the band so why is Mike playing drums and guitar?

I wouldn't want to sound negative either but this drum thing sounds weird indeed. First Danny no more, then Mike playing drums on some songs apparently
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: a visitor on September 27, 2012, 04:35:59 PM
I'm sure Mike plays drums on only something really rudimentary. Plus, Mark wouldn't allow any half-assed playing, so they have to have a certain standard.
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: superval99 on September 27, 2012, 04:42:39 PM
I don't want to sound negative all the time but I'm not keen on too many multi-instumentalists;  jack of all trades, master of none springs to mind. 

Having heard John and Mike play outside of MK shows, I would never in a million years call them jack-of-all-trades!   They are very accomplished musicians and masters of the instruments they play!   
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: allen on September 27, 2012, 04:50:33 PM
Thank marky49 for your quick review.  Glad you got a very good position enjoying the gig.  It made me recheck the pics Guy posted.  :)

Wishes
Allen
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: dmg on September 27, 2012, 05:29:10 PM
I don't want to sound negative all the time but I'm not keen on too many multi-instumentalists;  jack of all trades, master of none springs to mind. 

Having heard John and Mike play outside of MK shows, I would never in a million years call them jack-of-all-trades!   They are very accomplished musicians and masters of the instruments they play!

I can fully understand where you're coming from and I've no problem with Mike playing whistles and pipes, John playing fiddle and cittern because they are in the same musical "locality."  However, drums require Mike to use his passport!  Just completely out of his comfort zone and not the style of musical instrument he is good at playing.  The same when John goes for a wee shot on the guitar.
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Pottel on September 27, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
i now believe the first show was not recorded , at least not by the people we hoped for, as security was simply too severe (once inside)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: superval99 on September 27, 2012, 05:32:53 PM
I don't want to sound negative all the time but I'm not keen on too many multi-instumentalists;  jack of all trades, master of none springs to mind. 

Having heard John and Mike play outside of MK shows, I would never in a million years call them jack-of-all-trades!   They are very accomplished musicians and masters of the instruments they play!

I can fully understand where you're coming from and I've no problem with Mike playing whistles and pipes, John playing fiddle and cittern because they are in the same musical "locality."  However, drums require Mike to use his passport!  Just completely out of his comfort zone and not the style of musical instrument he is good at playing.  The same when John goes for a wee shot on the guitar.

I'm pretty certain it would have been more of a fun thing rather than serious drumming - wasn't there a washboard somewhere too!   :)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: dmg on September 27, 2012, 05:36:09 PM
I don't want to sound negative all the time but I'm not keen on too many multi-instumentalists;  jack of all trades, master of none springs to mind. 

Having heard John and Mike play outside of MK shows, I would never in a million years call them jack-of-all-trades!   They are very accomplished musicians and masters of the instruments they play!

I can fully understand where you're coming from and I've no problem with Mike playing whistles and pipes, John playing fiddle and cittern because they are in the same musical "locality."  However, drums require Mike to use his passport!  Just completely out of his comfort zone and not the style of musical instrument he is good at playing.  The same when John goes for a wee shot on the guitar.

I'm pretty certain it would have been more of a fun thing rather than serious drumming - wasn't there a washboard somewhere too!   :)

Yeah, I read that somewhere too.  It must have been on Donegan's Gone! ;D
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: superval99 on September 27, 2012, 05:38:06 PM
I don't want to sound negative all the time but I'm not keen on too many multi-instumentalists;  jack of all trades, master of none springs to mind. 

Having heard John and Mike play outside of MK shows, I would never in a million years call them jack-of-all-trades!   They are very accomplished musicians and masters of the instruments they play!

I can fully understand where you're coming from and I've no problem with Mike playing whistles and pipes, John playing fiddle and cittern because they are in the same musical "locality."  However, drums require Mike to use his passport!  Just completely out of his comfort zone and not the style of musical instrument he is good at playing.  The same when John goes for a wee shot on the guitar.

I'm pretty certain it would have been more of a fun thing rather than serious drumming - wasn't there a washboard somewhere too!   :)

Yeah, I read that somewhere too.  It must have been on Donegan's Gone! ;D

Probably!   Ian was on washboard and Mike on drums.  Just a bit of lighthearted fun - nothing too serious!    ;D
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Pottel on September 27, 2012, 05:42:17 PM
knoxville was NOT played in Oslo 2006, it was actually never played in oslo...
amsterdam 2008 was a real joy to experience!! i was soooo surprised that night..
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: dmg on September 27, 2012, 05:45:24 PM
knoxville was NOT played in Oslo 2006, it was actually never played in oslo...
amsterdam 2008 was a real joy to experience!! i was soooo surprised that night..

I'd love to know what the arrangement was like...
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Pottel on September 27, 2012, 05:48:20 PM
listen to ze recording bruv...
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: superval99 on September 27, 2012, 06:02:10 PM
knoxville was NOT played in Oslo 2006, it was actually never played in oslo...
amsterdam 2008 was a real joy to experience!! i was soooo surprised that night..

I didn't think it was, pottel, but Mossguitar seemed to think so.   Was Amsterdam the only place it was played live then?   I was there too!   ;)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: dmg on September 27, 2012, 06:03:35 PM
knoxville was NOT played in Oslo 2006, it was actually never played in oslo...
amsterdam 2008 was a real joy to experience!! i was soooo surprised that night..

I didn't think it was, pottel, but Mossguitar seemed to think so.   Was Amsterdam the only place it was played live then?   I was there too!   ;)

Played in Toulouse 07.04.08 too.
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Pottel on September 27, 2012, 06:03:56 PM
nah, think the first 2 or 3 shows that tour or something...
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: dmg on September 27, 2012, 06:04:48 PM
nah, think the first 2 or 3 shows that tour or something...

Toulouse defo.
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Dutchessy on September 27, 2012, 06:05:24 PM
LE, he did only played fizzy and let it all go in the promos, not in the real tour..... Imagine if he does the same now... Ytc and myb already dropped ;)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Dutchessy on September 27, 2012, 06:10:46 PM
nah, think the first 2 or 3 shows that tour or something...

He played it also a (little) while after holland if i recall it correctly
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: dmg on September 27, 2012, 06:11:19 PM
Atarfe, Barcelona, Madrid, Strasbourg, Paris, Mannheim, Zurich and OSLO too!
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on September 27, 2012, 06:21:12 PM
i now believe the first show was not recorded , at least not by the people we hoped for, as security was simply too severe (once inside)

I dont get the point of forbid the recordings, specially when the MK management allows them, and the venue was just their rehearsal room, hired by themselfs...
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: dmg on September 27, 2012, 06:24:28 PM
i now believe the first show was not recorded , at least not by the people we hoped for, as security was simply too severe (once inside)

I dont get the point of forbid the recordings, specially when the MK management allows them, and the venue was just their rehearsal room, hired by themselfs...

Probably because there wasn't really a stage as such or any kind of proper barrier between the audience and the band and expensive gear.  You know how crazy MK fans are! ;)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on September 27, 2012, 06:30:45 PM
I can understand security when it comes to the musicians and gear, and the venue itself, but what I dont get is why forbid recordings or photos, if that was the case, specially in that intimate venue, because sometimes venues forbid recordings even the artists allow the fans to record, which I dont get at all...

I recall reading Guy telling that the management had take note of all the recordings they made during the past and suggested that something might be happening with them... Not only we still dont have any news about it but also we dont have any news about this two recent shows or the upcoming ones...

They had demonstrated that the unmixed and direct soundboard feed is good enough (the extra tracks from the 3 cd edition of Privateering sounds far better than the mixed Madrid 2010...), so they can do it pretty quickly and easily as they have a digital store etc etc etc etc

Nevermind...
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on September 27, 2012, 08:56:45 PM
I can understand that our amiters didnt recorded the show because of the security but...

What about some reviews? I read comments about a dashboard that I dont understand, and it would be great to read in which tracks Richard plays Pedal Steel Guitar...

Etc etc

Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Love Expresso on September 27, 2012, 09:12:29 PM
Marky49 also stated that she liked Mark's playing on Kingdom of Gold. Now I wonder, what exactly did he play on that? There is hardly no lead guitar on that track on the album, is it?

LE
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on September 27, 2012, 09:16:56 PM
I dont know how, I missed this Marky49 review...

Thanks Marky!

Hi,

Just a few words from me us I'm waiting for boarding...I shoot a car race at Nuerburgring tomorrow.
I met Paul outside the studio and had a quick chat. The complex is an old factory place, in a not so nice area. Guy, Mike and Richard said hello when we were brought in to the rehearsal room and I was standing right infront MK, little bit to the right. No photos allowed and we were watched tight!
The sound was bad at the beginning, MK's guitar very loud, his voice too low. It improved over time.
My favourite was 'kingdom' great playing of MK. Mike also played guitar and drums, Knoxville not my cup of tea.

Guy lost a lot of weight, nice haircut and shaved! :)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Vesper on September 27, 2012, 09:48:19 PM
http://www.ndr.de/radiomv/knopflerlondon103.html
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: tunnel85 on September 27, 2012, 09:53:15 PM
i now believe the first show was not recorded , at least not by the people we hoped for, as security was simply too severe (once inside)

I dont get the point of forbid the recordings, specially when the MK management allows them, and the venue was just their rehearsal room, hired by themselfs...
They don't want us to record, they don't want us to attend any of the warm up gig, either because we are not UK-resident or because there was no competition in our country. Not enough, they don't want to tour in our country next year.
What are they afraid of ?  Our presence ? Too bad, we've decided to have some fun next year.  ;)
 
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Vesper on September 27, 2012, 09:55:17 PM
The washboard can also be seen in Guy's diary!

On the right of this photo, is it Mike?
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on September 27, 2012, 10:01:46 PM
What a very low stage... If you were in the firsts rows it had to be great, but if you were in the middle or behind a tall person... No way to see anything during the whole concert...  :(
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: dmg on September 27, 2012, 10:03:14 PM
Marky49 also stated that she liked Mark's playing on Kingdom of Gold. Now I wonder, what exactly did he play on that? There is hardly no lead guitar on that track on the album, is it?

LE

I wondered about that myself. :-\
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: nababo on September 27, 2012, 10:09:52 PM
I think that " Knoxville " is close to " Beanstalk " on the new album. Songs who haven't a big apeal to me  ::)

I've been noticing this similarity too. Otherwise, I like both of them a lot
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: nababo on September 27, 2012, 10:22:09 PM
In both shows there were just two songs from the DS era. Is it possible that we are witnessing a new path here? Or these setlists don't represent at all a microworld of next year's tour?

About the songs themselves, I always thought that I was the only one who don't like the live versions do What it is, and now I read a post with the same opinion. Got a little "happier", I'm not alone. Actually, I've always considered the studio versions of What it is and Marbletown far better than the live recordings. Same with Boom like that.

And Kingdom of gold, forgive me the ones who like it, but it's almost all the time a skipper. Would'nt be on my setlist. Radio city serenade, that would be a thumbs up for me.
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: dmg on September 27, 2012, 10:23:54 PM
I find it hilarious that Guy has these shows on his site listed as "secret shows."  He then goes on to say they are situated in the Tower Bridge Business Complex and gives us the dates and pictures too!  Top secret! :lol
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on September 27, 2012, 10:26:31 PM
Mknews says that So far away was played both nights as well...
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Vesper on September 27, 2012, 10:54:42 PM
Can someone help me with finding that info on MKNews?
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on September 27, 2012, 10:55:31 PM
Can someone help me with finding that info on MKNews?

You have to go to the news site, and then scroll down a little...
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Vesper on September 27, 2012, 10:57:25 PM
Oh stupid :P Thanks!

But how is it possible that we know other setlists than MKNews?
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Love Expresso on September 27, 2012, 11:09:16 PM
Just scroll down a little bit - it is not in the exact time order over there... It is called London Showcases, in the news section.

LE
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Hoops McCann on September 29, 2012, 10:07:18 AM
Mknews says that So far away was played both nights as well...

Absolutely inevitable.  :P
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: man on a track on October 01, 2012, 07:21:12 AM
oh, how could I oversee this thread by now...?
Thanks for this! Gotta read before I comment...  ;)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: man on a track on October 01, 2012, 07:23:06 AM
Marbletown is probably my favourite song on the RPD album, but I loved the 2010 live version too, probably moreso than 2011, but then I liked everything better in 2010!   
Funny - I never quite liked it on the album...
But I love it live. Starting with Munich 2002  ;D
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Rkd on October 02, 2012, 09:27:10 AM
Mknews says that So far away was played both nights as well...

Absolutely inevitable.  :P

What is it about this song? It seems to be one of the most enduring hold-overs from the DS years, but I don't understand why. It never had the mass appeal that SOS, TOL or R&J had so I wonder why it's held on this long. And in MK's catalog of songs, an argument could be made that it is one of his weaker offerings. So, go figure! I'm just hoping that when MK and crew come across the pond to jam with BD, that he leaves SFA, so far away!
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Mossguitar on October 02, 2012, 09:56:18 AM
knoxville was NOT played in Oslo 2006, it was actually never played in oslo...
amsterdam 2008 was a real joy to experience!! i was soooo surprised that night..
YES, it was indeed played in Oslo! (I don't know why you say it wasn't. Were you there?) But it was in 2008, not 2006. I just hit the wrong key on the keyboard. Sorry.
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: MusicGirl1 on October 03, 2012, 11:41:35 AM
Mknews says that So far away was played both nights as well...

Absolutely inevitable.  :P

What is it about this song? It seems to be one of the most enduring hold-overs from the DS years, but I don't understand why. It never had the mass appeal that SOS, TOL or R&J had so I wonder why it's held on this long. And in MK's catalog of songs, an argument could be made that it is one of his weaker offerings. So, go figure! I'm just hoping that when MK and crew come across the pond to jam with BD, that he leaves SFA, so far away!

I will go to the Amsterdam show in may 2013. But..., about "So far way", I also wonder what it is about this song. An alright song in my book, but not one of Marks best.
I do however...., hope that Mark still plays "Romeo and Juliet" once in a while. That is still a great song and one of my personal favorites. The solo versions are even better than the Dire Straits versions from long ago (Well, I think so....)

Maaike 
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: vgonis on October 03, 2012, 02:15:39 PM
Tastes are quite different I suppose. I am really fed up with R&J. I have heard it over and over, and is not doing it for me anymore. On the other hand So far away has a more spare sound, an "american" production and a cathy guitar riff, that i keep enjoy listening to, no matter the simple lyrics. Grom all the BiA singles, it is the only one that I would intentionally listen, (maybe BiA too). But like I said tastes are different.
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Love Expresso on October 03, 2012, 02:49:08 PM
At the end of the show, when "ze running" took place and all the get-a-lifers stand right in front of the stage, right in front of HIM, as close to him as never before, and he sings YOU'RE SO FAR AWAY from me, that's... transcendental...  :o ;D

LE
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: nababo on October 03, 2012, 03:47:57 PM
Mknews says that So far away was played both nights as well...

Absolutely inevitable.  :P

What is it about this song? It seems to be one of the most enduring hold-overs from the DS years, but I don't understand why. It never had the mass appeal that SOS, TOL or R&J had so I wonder why it's held on this long. And in MK's catalog of songs, an argument could be made that it is one of his weaker offerings. So, go figure! I'm just hoping that when MK and crew come across the pond to jam with BD, that he leaves SFA, so far away!

If I am not mistaken, SFA was put back in the setlist from the shows MK did in Brazil on. It was in 2001. The crowd in S
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: superval99 on October 03, 2012, 03:49:59 PM
At the end of the show, when "ze running" took place and all the get-a-lifers stand right in front of the stage, right in front of HIM, as close to him as never before, and he sings YOU'RE SO FAR AWAY from me, that's... transcendental...  :o ;D

LE

Every time we discuss set-lists prior to a new tour and which songs we would like to be dropped, I always hope that SFA will be one of those and groan a little at the prospect of hearing it again, but when I am at the concert, in front of MK and we are all singing along and swaying, I think it is wonderful and a great encore song!   :D   I expect it will be there again in 2013 and probably on the BD/MK tour too.  ;) 
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: dmg on October 03, 2012, 05:09:21 PM
At the end of the show, when "ze running" took place and all the get-a-lifers stand right in front of the stage, right in front of HIM, as close to him as never before, and he sings YOU'RE SO FAR AWAY from me, that's... transcendental...  :o ;D

LE

Every time we discuss set-lists prior to a new tour and which songs we would like to be dropped, I always hope that SFA will be one of those and groan a little at the prospect of hearing it again, but when I am at the concert, in front of MK and we are all singing along and swaying, I think it is wonderful and a great encore song!   :D   I expect it will be there again in 2013 and probably on the BD/MK tour too.  ;)

I suppose you're right Val and we all enjoy it but there's so much more in the library if he'd only go and take a look.  It's all on microfiche! 8)
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Love Expresso on October 03, 2012, 05:37:27 PM
Naaa, they never would take such big gadgetry with them on tour... would they?  Mark MUST have another solution, magnetic tape or something...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-1987-0925-014%2C_Leipzig%2C_Deutsche_B%C3%BCcherei%2C_Mikrofiche-Leseger%C3%A4t.jpg)

 ;D

LE
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Rkd on October 03, 2012, 05:54:11 PM
 
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I suppose you're right Val and we all enjoy it but there's so much more in the library if he'd only go and take a look. 
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Agreed! I bet even MK can't believe that SFA is one of the songs that have stood the test of time!!
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: man on a track on October 03, 2012, 06:03:32 PM
I suppose you're right Val and we all enjoy it but there's so much more in the library if he'd only go and take a look.
Les Boys  ;D
pleeeeeease  :lol
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: binone on October 03, 2012, 06:14:14 PM
I suppose you're right Val and we all enjoy it but there's so much more in the library if he'd only go and take a look.
Les Boys  ;D
pleeeeeease  :lol


El Macho, Indeed
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: tunnel85 on October 03, 2012, 06:39:20 PM
 please be careful  :-X
It's really the kind of songs he'd be more than happy to dig up.    ???
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: jbaent on October 03, 2012, 09:22:35 PM
Count on me with Les Boys

Forget about El Macho...

I hope it doesnt says anything about me  :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: man on a track on October 03, 2012, 11:05:18 PM
Count on me with Les Boys

Forget about El Macho...

I hope it doesnt says anything about me  :lol :lol :lol
HAHAHAHAHA
I echo that. Both!  ;)  :lol
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: dmg on October 03, 2012, 11:09:23 PM
Count on me with Les Boys

Forget about El Macho...

I hope it doesnt says anything about me  :lol :lol :lol

I don't know - I love it when he shouts out EL MACHOOOOOOW! ;D
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Pottel on October 03, 2012, 11:30:46 PM
knoxville was NOT played in Oslo 2006, it was actually never played in oslo...
amsterdam 2008 was a real joy to experience!! i was soooo surprised that night..
YES, it was indeed played in Oslo! (I don't know why you say it wasn't. Were you there?) But it was in 2008, not 2006. I just hit the wrong key on the keyboard. Sorry.
coz i checked the on every bootleg site, and also looked at 2008. Must have overlooked
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: MusicGirl1 on October 07, 2012, 04:57:40 PM
Tastes are quite different I suppose. I am really fed up with R&J. I have heard it over and over, and is not doing it for me anymore. On the other hand So far away has a more spare sound, an "american" production and a cathy guitar riff, that i keep enjoy listening to, no matter the simple lyrics. Grom all the BiA singles, it is the only one that I would intentionally listen, (maybe BiA too). But like I said tastes are different.

That is quite alright.  ;)
"One man's coffee is another man's tea"

It's just that only recently I am re-discovering Mark and his music, so I didn't realize  he played R&J quite often during his last tours. I did see some solo versions on youtube and thought those versions were really better than the old DS versions. I will see Mark in Amsterdam in may 2013, it will be the first time I will see him live again in a long, long time.

Maaike
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: Love Expresso on October 07, 2012, 07:24:55 PM
Be alarmed: He is not wearing a headband anymore!  ;D

LE
Title: Re: September 26th, Second MK Warm Up Gig, Tower Bridge Bussiness Complex, London
Post by: MusicGirl1 on October 07, 2012, 07:47:27 PM
Be alarmed: He is not wearing a headband anymore!  ;D

LE

Ha ha  ;D The first time ever I saw Mark live was already way after the "headband" days.

Maaike