A Mark In Time
Previous Tours => 2012 Mark Knopfler & Bob Dylan Tour => Topic started by: jbaent on November 20, 2012, 01:50:27 PM
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#33:2012.11.21 Brooklyn, NY, Barclays Center, USA
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http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=179 (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=179)
http://expectingrain.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=73116 (http://expectingrain.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=73116)
AMIT attendees:
Setlist
Different from previous show in RED
Mark Knopfler
What It Is
Corned Beef City
Privateering
Kingdom of Gold
I Used to Could
Song for Sonny Liston
Done With Bonaparte
Hill Farmer's Blues
Marbletown
Encore:
So Far Away
Bob Dylan
1. You Ain't Going Nowhere
2. Don't Think Twice (Mark Knopfler on guitar)
3. Things Have Changed (Mark Knopfler on guitar)
4. Tangled Up In Blue (Mark Knopfler on guitar)
5. Early Roman Kings
6. Chimes of Freedom
7. The Levee's Gonna Break
8. Visions of Johanna
9. Highway 61 Revisited
10. Soon After Midnight
11. Thunder On The Mountain
12. Forgetful Heart
13. Ballad Of A Thin Man
14. Like A Rolling Stone
15. All Along The Watchtower
(encore)?
16. Blowin' In The Wind
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Perhaps they will sing one song together again like they did last year :clap
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Perhaps they will sing one song together again like they did last year :clap
You can "bank" on it! ;D
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Perhaps they will sing one song together again like they did last year :clap
You can "bank" on it! ;D
O my!!!!
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Perhaps they will sing one song together again like they did last year :clap
You can "bank" on it! ;D
O my!!!!
I thought it was a noteworthy comment! ;D
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Thats 2k! Now I'm a Juliet! :hmm
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I hope they do something really special together this evening. Don't know if anything can surpass Forever Young at Hammersmith Appollo though. That was truly a joy to behold.
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Maybe Mark could suggest this little number from another friend. I think Krusty could do a job on it ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gq8o4aWDNA .
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Just back from the show. Set list-no surprises, no songs together. But let me tell you, both MK & Bob were on fire tonight! Belive me, Bob was VERY good ( compared to other times I saw him), full of energy, dancing, smiling. His was more of a "sing along" set- familiar songs, but with different arangements. Pretty good sound as well (as pretty as could be in a basketball arena). MK-great, but a bit subdued, I think he didn't want to "bring down the house" with songs like Speedway or Brothers, being only the oppening number. These boys are very itense, very high level of concentration on stage, but relaxed & having fun at the same time. I' m glad I saw this, as I think MK "pushed" Bob to new hights in performance, and the show was great from both ends!
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Maybe someone forgot to mention Krusty that it was the last show :hmm
;D ;D ;D
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Did they play together?
The setlist above says, the review doesn't!? :hmm
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They played together, according to Bob links. :)
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Yes, they played together 3 songs. I was also hopingfor something special, like a duet, or "all along the wachtower", but not this time. Still, it' s the last concert they will ever do together (sad), but next time MK will do a full show (happy!!!) MK adds a lot to Bob's songs with his guitar, very tasteful.
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I was there last night with my wife. MK was amazing as usual... Seeing him live in concert over the years has been some of the happiest moments in my life. Don't get me wrong....I am usually happy; but MK just touches something in my soul that I can not describe. That being said, this was a mostly Bob crowd...plent of former hippies and some that have never left the '60s it seems. The crowd was very respectful to Mark, but aside from myself (center stage, 16th row from front) and a few fans on the right side who were up and grooving to the music, everyone else seemed to be sitting and waiting for Bob. Mark's solos on WII, KOG,SL,HFB were the hilights for me. The crowd did appreciate Marbletown and SFA though, but it was strange for me that even during SFA, very few people were standing up. Bob's music literally gave my wife a headache and she abandoned our very valuable seats after 4 songs. I stayed a bit longer, but after MK finished playing with Bob on songs 2-4, the rest really was anti-climatic for me. Couldn't make out the lyrics and his voice sucked. The crowd for the most part lapped it up though. My wife told me afterwards that many people had left during Bob's set. So maybe there were more MK only fans than I thought. :D
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5th row centre sounds great but, with some kind of mirror contraption on stage in front of the piano, the sightline to Bob was not great. His performance, on the other hand, was pretty good - lively and engaged, with commentss occasionally interjected in the "standard" lyrics and entertaining if eccentric piano playing - but there was less light and shade compared with the Boston concert.
There was a mix-up with the start time of the Brooklyn show. Some tickets said the start time was 8.00, not 7.30. In consequence, there was a delayed start, with Mark coming on at 7.45 and people still arriving in their seats. Bob did know it was the last show on the tour, adding a 16th song to his set. Sadly, Mark did not join him at the end of the concert, as he had at the final Hammersmith show last year. As has been said elsewhere, Mark's presence on-stage and his contribution to Dylan's set do give the show a lift. Bob tends to raise his game a notch and there is some visual interaction between the two.
Mark's set and performance were of the usual high standard but I doubt I could distinguish this show from the Boston one we'd caught a few days before. A good show but "So Far Away" got the biggest reaction, I thought, perhaps because it was the one song with which many of the audience were familiar.
We were talking with some folk on the subway back to Manhattan and one asked about Mark's new album and proceeded to write down the title as I spelled it out. I explained that it wasn't actually released in the States but he said he'd search on-line. It was clear he had little pre-knowledge of Mark's songs but was impressed enough to search the album out.
Based on what we had been told about some of the shows earlier in the tour, security was relatively low key - a quick visual check of bags (nothing too close) and a run-over with some security scanner but pretty perfunctory. I saw nobody actually caught with anything and it was all very freindly. The staff were extremely polite and pleasant.
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missed opportunity imho.
still, nice to hear the positive reviews.
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Short set! Did MK skip the song between HFB and Marbletown?
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5th row centre sounds great but, with some kind of mirror contraption on stage in front of the piano, the sightline to Bob was not great. His performance, on the other hand, was pretty good - lively and engaged, with commentss occasionally interjected in the "standard" lyrics and entertaining if eccentric piano playing - but there was less light and shade compared with the Boston concert.
There was a mix-up with the start time of the Brooklyn show. Some tickets said the start time was 8.00, not 7.30. In consequence, there was a delayed start, with Mark coming on at 7.45 and people still arriving in their seats. Bob did know it was the last show on the tour, adding a 16th song to his set. Sadly, Mark did not join him at the end of the concert, as he had at the final Hammersmith show last year. As has been said elsewhere, Mark's presence on-stage and his contribution to Dylan's set do give the show a lift. Bob tends to raise his game a notch and there is some visual interaction between the two.
Mark's set and performance were of the usual high standard but I doubt I could distinguish this show from the Boston one we'd caught a few days before. A good show but "So Far Away" got the biggest reaction, I thought, perhaps because it was the one song with which many of the audience were familiar.
We were talking with some folk on the subway back to Manhattan and one asked about Mark's new album and proceeded to write down the title as I spelled it out. I explained that it wasn't actually released in the States but he said he'd search on-line. It was clear he had little pre-knowledge of Mark's songs but was impressed enough to search the album out.
Based on what we had been told about some of the shows earlier in the tour, security was relatively low key - a quick visual check of bags (nothing too close) and a run-over with some security scanner but pretty perfunctory. I saw nobody actually caught with anything and it was all very freindly. The staff were extremely polite and pleasant.
Nice review. How did Mrs. twm enjoy Marks set?
PS Hope you had a nice trip.
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Tangled Up In Blue - Brooklyn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn3CpIjNZWA
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Attended the final show of the tour at the Barcalays. I am as big a MK fan as the next and was ambivalent about seeing Dylan. I was there to see my favorite, MK. Here's my take on the concert. First, tickets said 8pm, Barclays website said 7pm then got an email around noon that day saying 7:30pm. Mark took the stage at 7:45 while people were still coming in. By 8:15, they were still streaming in. Annoying. Having followed Guy's site throughout and reading many reviews of each concert, I expected to be blown away by MK and more than likely leave early once Dylan got started. That wasn't the case. I would say 10% of the audience was there to see MK and he did very little to win over the remaining 90%. The playlist was not lively enough, bordering on downer. Too heavy on the Celtic, Geordie vibe. He lost the attention of most of the audience who were texting and disengaged all around us. Quite frankly, the entire band seemed low energy. Going through the motions after having played the same 15 songs in 33 cities night after night. They are all fabulous musicians but they could play these songs with their eyes closed by now, right? There was no interest in giving the audience a little something...when in NY, sing Radio City Serenade..when in Phillie, sing Sailing To Philadelphia. Marks voice was beautiful and strong but why sing the same songs night after night during this tour when MK has a catalog of lively music that is begging to be played. This isn't Riverdance, it's a rock concert. Also, the entire band looked like they just rolled out of bed, they need a new wardrobe!!! They left the stage to polite applause when it could have been different if livelier music had been played. When Dylan and his amazing band took the stage, what a different vibe! High energy from Bob nonstop, he was awesome! He rocked the house. For all his critics, Bob sang different songs everynight, not the same songs nite after nite. And yes, Bob is on his own trip, you either get on board and play name that tune as he amazes with new arrangements or you don't. He knows what he's doing and he ended his tour with a great show, croaky voice and all. I left feeling BD and his band gave the audience 100% and MK did not. Bob was high energy, MK was going through the motions. It was still a great concert but Bob blew MK away, just the opposite of what I expected.
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Tangled Up In Blue - Brooklyn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn3CpIjNZWA
So Far from same show, not much of a closer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW2w5ylcdCA&feature=relmfu (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW2w5ylcdCA&feature=relmfu)
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Mrs twm enjoyed both shows and thought MK gave a good performance both nights. We were fortunate to be close to the stage at both Boston and Brooklyn, so perhaps gained a better impression of what he and the band put into the show. The Brooklyn venue had some sections both high up and far back and I'm not sure that the "nuances" of MK's and the band's performance would have penetrated that far. I think the earlier comment about Mark and the band being able to produce this performance with, as they say, their eyes closed, is probably true. They are well rehearsed and generally stick to the script. Dylan's tendency is to tear up the script. Sometimes this works and sometimes it "just don't". What I can say is that Dylan really did try to engage with the songs and with the audience. Mrs twm was not impressed by some of his piano playing, which can be wayward at times. He ended with the same three songs both nights and romped through them, which was much appreciated by the crowd, though this was not always suited to their lyrical content. But he does try fresh ways to present his material. Mark, in this sense, is more conventional and, for some, less exciting. At one point in his Brooklyn set, someone joined the guy on my left and they started talking during the song. Fortunately, I knew the late arrival from way back, though I haven't seen him for a long while. At the end of the song, I leaned over and asked them kindly to be quiet, as mrs twm had come a long way to enjoy MK. They did so and, soon after, moved elsewhere, presumably to continue their conversation.
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Tangled Up In Blue - Brooklyn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn3CpIjNZWA
Thanks, that riff never sounded better. Go Mark!
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Things Have Changed - Brooklyn. Sound problems on this one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgBxtxfiM4M&feature=related
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Attended the final show of the tour at the Barcalays. I am as big a MK fan as the next and was ambivalent about seeing Dylan. I was there to see my favorite, MK. Here's my take on the concert. First, tickets said 8pm, Barclays website said 7pm then got an email around noon that day saying 7:30pm. Mark took the stage at 7:45 while people were still coming in. By 8:15, they were still streaming in. Annoying. Having followed Guy's site throughout and reading many reviews of each concert, I expected to be blown away by MK and more than likely leave early once Dylan got started. That wasn't the case. I would say 10% of the audience was there to see MK and he did very little to win over the remaining 90%. The playlist was not lively enough, bordering on downer. Too heavy on the Celtic, Geordie vibe. He lost the attention of most of the audience who were texting and disengaged all around us. Quite frankly, the entire band seemed low energy. Going through the motions after having played the same 15 songs in 33 cities night after night. They are all fabulous musicians but they could play these songs with their eyes closed by now, right? There was no interest in giving the audience a little something...when in NY, sing Radio City Serenade..when in Phillie, sing Sailing To Philadelphia. Marks voice was beautiful and strong but why sing the same songs night after night during this tour when MK has a catalog of lively music that is begging to be played. This isn't Riverdance, it's a rock concert. Also, the entire band looked like they just rolled out of bed, they need a new wardrobe!!! They left the stage to polite applause when it could have been different if livelier music had been played. When Dylan and his amazing band took the stage, what a different vibe! High energy from Bob nonstop, he was awesome! He rocked the house. For all his critics, Bob sang different songs everynight, not the same songs nite after nite. And yes, Bob is on his own trip, you either get on board and play name that tune as he amazes with new arrangements or you don't. He knows what he's doing and he ended his tour with a great show, croaky voice and all. I left feeling BD and his band gave the audience 100% and MK did not. Bob was high energy, MK was going through the motions. It was still a great concert but Bob blew MK away, just the opposite of what I expected.
Sounds like the Jersey girl did not enjoy the Geordie boy as much as she thought she would.
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http://ultimateclassicrock.com/bob-dylan-and-mark-knopfler-rock-the-barclays-center-in-brooklyn/
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picture from that review is from 2005
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picture from that review is from 2005
I've always wondered why he felt he needed glasses to play in 2005 but hasn't needed them since! :hmm
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Is MK's set list (above) certain? I think it's wrong.
I collected my tickets for Brooklyn on the day of the show and they came in a "GEICO Atrium Barclays Center" envelope which had an "American Express" logo on the reverse and the words "Official Card of Barclays Center". This is what I used to jot MK's songs down. I say this because the list is clearly not the one I wrote in Boston.
I wrote the Brooklyn list in two parts and this is exactly what I wrote:
WII
CBC
P'g
KoG
IUtoC
S.Liston
Then I turned the envelope round and wrote the rest of the songs over the previous part but pretty clearly:
Bonaparte
HFB
H Away
I didn't write Marbletown or So Far Away down but they were played. "Marbletown" just about brought the audience to quietness (the odd whistle and the like, as I recall) and SFA was the encore song (of course?) and brought the loudest cheers of the evening for Mark and the boys..
It is "Haul Away" that is additional to the list at the start of this thread.
Was I mistaken?
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Is MK's set list (above) certain? I think it's wrong.
I collected my tickets for Brooklyn on the day of the show and they came in a "GEICO Atrium Barclays Center" envelope which had an "American Express" logo on the reverse and the words "Official Card of Barclays Center". This is what I used to jot MK's songs down. I say this because the list is clearly not the one I wrote in Boston.
I wrote the Brooklyn list in two parts and this is exactly what I wrote:
WII
CBC
P'g
KoG
IUtoC
S.Liston
Then I turned the envelope round and wrote the rest of the songs over the previous part but pretty clearly:
Bonaparte
HFB
H Away
I didn't write Marbletown or So Far Away down but they were played. "Marbletown" just about brought the audience to quietness (the odd whistle and the like, as I recall) and SFA was the encore song (of course?) and brought the loudest cheers of the evening for Mark and the boys..
It is "Haul Away" that is additional to the list at the start of this thread.
Was I mistaken?
No, you weren't mistaken twm, Haul Away was played. It is on the bootleg of the show.
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Thanks, dmg. I thought so but, not being so close to this material as you and others, I was beginning to get worried. "Haul Away" is a fine song and Mark clearly thinks so, too, judging by the number of times he's played it.
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Thanks, dmg. I thought so but, not being so close to this material as you and others, I was beginning to get worried. "Haul Away" is a fine song and Mark clearly thinks so, too, judging by the number of times he's played it.
Yes, it's a song that has grown on me. Now I like it a lot, but I'm a little unsure of it's appeal in a huge arena in concert. How did it come across live in a big arena like Barclays Centre? I'm thinking perhaps smaller venues would lend themselves better to being a good setting for the song. ??? :think
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2012-11-21 New York - Kingdom of Gold (Celtic outro cut short)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVWbFltTZ4g
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Where I was sitting, I would say that a greater proportion of the audience were Dylan fans and, for the average concert-goer, much of Mark's set would have been unfamiliar. There was a small amount of "people-shuffling-around" but, by and large, the audience members were respectful and listened to all the songs. I sensed that the musicianship was appreciated and there was a generally positive response but no one individual song in the main set seemed to stand out in terms of audience reaction. The encore, being a DS song I guess, did receive a great welcome almost from the beginning.
In short, "Haul Away" got no bigger or lesser reaction than most of the songs in the set.
I think I've said before that Mark was both brave and absoutely right to keep to his newer songs. As I also think I've said before (maybe not), people not familar with his recent/latest albums/album would have taken note and, in some cases, have one and sought out the relevant albums after the concert. I didn't look too closely but I don't recall seeing anything about PRIVATEERING around the two venues I went to. I am happy to be disabused of this contention but, if I'm right, this was a real pity.
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Privatering wan
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You folk may have heard this. Soon After Midnight:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vAioheSIoM&feature=plcp
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picture from that review is from 2005
I've always wondered why he felt he needed glasses to play in 2005 but hasn't needed them since! :hmm
You can often see the indents on his head from wearing glasses, so my guess is that he wears contact lenses on stage.
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picture from that review is from 2005
I've always wondered why he felt he needed glasses to play in 2005 but hasn't needed them since! :hmm
You can often see the indents on his head from wearing glasses, so my guess is that he wears contact lenses on stage.
Yes, I've noticed the indents too! ;D Never really considered contact lenses though. Wouldn't they be liable to come out with the amount of bending down he has to do during a gig? :think
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picture from that review is from 2005
I've always wondered why he felt he needed glasses to play in 2005 but hasn't needed them since! :hmm
Actually...from one who has worn both...contacts would not be prone to 'pop out' that easily anymore...whereas glasses could slide down the bridge of the nose..and if he wears bifocals...the ability for contacts to cover those prescriptions has drastically improved..so he can look down without an occasional squint. Besides...there is no reflection from the stage lighting with contacts. 8)
You can often see the indents on his head from wearing glasses, so my guess is that he wears contact lenses on stage.
Yes, I've noticed the indents too! ;D Never really considered contact lenses though. Wouldn't they be liable to come out with the amount of bending down he has to do during a gig? :think
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Why he doesn't get artificial lenses implanted is beyond me. I had I done and it is brilliant!
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KOG (one of the best quality videos from the tour):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok0M7WYOzSI
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Thanks dmg for this awesome video. I was once again enthralled by it. I remembered when Mark played it for the first time in San francisco, I was in tears right in front of the stage. Are there other good quality ones ?
BTW : what's the guitar he used for this song?
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The guitar is his new blue Pensa with P90 pickups. You can see it on one of the Privateering promo pics.
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The guitar is his new blue Pensa with P90 pickups. You can see it on one of the Privateering promo pics.
And in the GUITAR STORIES documentary!
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I wonder if Rudy was there to see it played like that...magnificent! :clap
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The guitar is his new blue Pensa with P90 pickups. You can see it on one of the Privateering promo pics.
And in the GUITAR STORIES documentary!
Thank you Holger_Mk and jbaent for the info. When I saw the guitar I thought it was very beautiful, and do not recognize it from anywhere. Does Mark use that guitar to play in any other songs ? Thanks,
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Until now the blue Pensa has only been played on Kingdom of Gold. I hope we will see and hear it also on the european tour this year. :thumbsup
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA7d96rC_1o
Another one!