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Previous Albums => Privateering (2012) => Topic started by: Rail King on December 22, 2012, 12:30:33 PM

Title: Gator Blood
Post by: Rail King on December 22, 2012, 12:30:33 PM
Any ideas what this song is about? Who's the main character?
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: Fieneke2 on January 06, 2013, 09:54:49 PM

I don't have an answer Rail King! Of many songs I need to find out the meaning, but I didn't have time yet to search for it!
Meanwhile I continue listening every day to the beautiful songs!  ;D

Fieneke
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: jbaent on January 07, 2013, 10:13:53 AM
I always thought that it was about that tv shows where people hunt crocodiles in Florida... There are some tv programmes about it, so I always thught he saw it (or a tv advert of it) and caught his attention
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: dmg on January 07, 2013, 11:34:44 AM
Well it sounds American to me in it's use of language such as "film-flam man" etc.  It seems to me to be about the excess of eating and a "greedy man" preparing a huge amount of greasy food.  Just my idea.

The first thing I think of though is the scene in Live and Let Die when Sir Rog jumps over the crocodiles at the crocodile farm.  Brilliant! ;D
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: Rail King on January 07, 2013, 06:00:52 PM
Thanks, I see. And what about the dancing chicken? Hot plate? Is he a cook or what?
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: dmg on January 08, 2013, 01:53:56 PM
Thanks, I see. And what about the dancing chicken? Hot plate? Is he a cook or what?

Well a "skillet" is a kind of frying pan so he seems to be preparing some sort of unhealthy foodstuffs.

As I said, it's my take but I could be way off!  Maybe someone else has another take on the song.
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: DCAce on March 15, 2013, 10:08:29 PM
Definitely American -- in old time side shows and carnivals, you often saw "dancing chickens".....there was a hot plate under the "stage" to make the chickens "dance.
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: Al on March 20, 2013, 08:56:27 PM
The song is about Coronel Tom Parker, manager of Elvis Prestley. Coronel was a semi-legal immigrant, almost a con-man, working in side shows. Then he met Elvis-"a country boy, a bird who sings", and reportedly made him (actually his parents) sign a horrendous contract. It practically put Elvis in complete dependence, while Tom got most of the money. Comparrison to a gator means that when the coronel got a hold of you, he won't let you go. Pretty much what he did to his most famous client.
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: dmg on March 20, 2013, 09:12:09 PM
 :think

http://www.gatorblood.com

Yet another Elvis-related song then. ::)
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: Tally on March 22, 2013, 06:31:07 PM
The song is about Coronel Tom Parker, manager of Elvis Prestley. Coronel was a semi-legal immigrant, almost a con-man, working in side shows. Then he met Elvis-"a country boy, a bird who sings", and reportedly made him (actually his parents) sign a horrendous contract. It practically put Elvis in complete dependence, while Tom got most of the money. Comparrison to a gator means that when the coronel got a hold of you, he won't let you go. Pretty much what he did to his most famous client.

Very interesting post!
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: DCAce on March 26, 2013, 07:19:54 AM
The song is about Coronel Tom Parker, manager of Elvis Prestley. Coronel was a semi-legal immigrant, almost a con-man, working in side shows. Then he met Elvis-"a country boy, a bird who sings", and reportedly made him (actually his parents) sign a horrendous contract. It practically put Elvis in complete dependence, while Tom got most of the money. Comparrison to a gator means that when the coronel got a hold of you, he won't let you go. Pretty much what he did to his most famous client.

You're too kind -- Parker wasn't semi, he was an illegal immigrant, and since he couldn't get a passport, Elvis only traveled when he was in the army because Parker couldn't take the chance of Elvis making friends or listening to professional advice from anyone. (Parker made him turn down all the offers, including a request from Queen Elizabeth for a Command Performance.  He also vetoed any film that would have required Elvis to go out of the country on location.)  Elvis was of age and signed a contract that gave half of everything to Parker.  His mother was against it, she disliked and distrusted Parker (smart lady).  Parker chose everything, from songs, to films scripts to Vegas only with money in mind.  What a waste of a talented young man's life......
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: Love Expresso on May 09, 2013, 11:09:23 PM
From Isaac Shabtay's Tour Diary from the show in Lodz, May, 8th:

Gator Blood was played again, this time with a short introduction by Mark mentioning that this is a song about a music manager.

LE
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: Mona Dee on May 10, 2013, 08:01:11 PM
I NEVER would have understood the lyrics without this forum. Thank You !
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: FenderBender on May 28, 2013, 09:11:56 AM
Thanks, I see. And what about the dancing chicken? Hot plate? Is he a cook or what?

In Cardiff, Mark specifically mentioned that Gator Blood and Back to Tupelo were about Colonel Tom Parker.
As for the dancing chicken, when introducing Gator Blood Mark said that at one time Parker had a show where he would put live chickens on a hot plate so that they would appear to be dancing as they tried to keep their feet from burning. Sounds like he was a really pleasant chap!
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: rosco on May 29, 2013, 12:25:52 AM
The Col as previously stated was illegal in the US and THE reason Elvis never toured out of the USA.  The book Mk has read about the Col will have been Alanna Nashs book from a few years ago. In it,  she tells all these stories and also claims the Colonel fled the Netherlands after murdering someone. An excellent book.
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: Rail King on July 05, 2013, 10:06:09 AM
The song is about Coronel Tom Parker, manager of Elvis Prestley. Coronel was a semi-legal immigrant, almost a con-man, working in side shows. Then he met Elvis-"a country boy, a bird who sings", and reportedly made him (actually his parents) sign a horrendous contract. It practically put Elvis in complete dependence, while Tom got most of the money. Comparrison to a gator means that when the coronel got a hold of you, he won't let you go. Pretty much what he did to his most famous client.

Hey Al
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: stormbreaker on August 07, 2013, 12:03:17 PM
What a shame for a Dutch citizen to go illegal to the U.S and behave like this. He should have been arrested and deported.
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: joanzimm on August 07, 2013, 12:15:29 PM
Don't you wonder what goes on in MK's brain?  You just never know what he's going to come up with next.  He is truly unique.  :o
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: ingridswing on August 07, 2013, 12:29:23 PM
He is reading a lot and the stories change into songs  :)
I like it
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: Knopflerfan on August 07, 2013, 01:38:52 PM
MK - A truly talented chap!! ;)

From Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel_Tom_Parker
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: ds1984 on August 07, 2013, 02:55:05 PM
(Music) Business and ethic are words that doesn't get well together.

Artists are not accountant and often turn(ed) to be ripped by the ones in charge of their interest. What happened to Elvis was not isolated and countless ripping histories exists. Among them, the Rolling Stones have lived on both side. After a costly bad experience in choosing Alein Klein to represent them that ended by loosing the control on their Decca (London is the US) catalog, they did learn well about it and from RS Records put a financial organization controlled by them and devoted to them. You can't be an isolated dolphin when swimming in the sea of  sharks.

Dire Straits on that point seemed to got a lucky star on them.
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: JF on August 07, 2013, 04:31:04 PM
(Music) Business and ethic are words that doesn't get well together.

Artists are not accountant and often turn(ed) to be ripped by the ones in charge of their interest. What happened to Elvis was not isolated and countless ripping histories exists. Among them, the Rolling Stones have lived on both side. After a costly bad experience in choosing Alein Klein to represent them that ended by loosing the control on their Decca (London is the US) catalog, they did learn well about it and from RS Records put a financial organization controlled by them and devoted to them. You can't be an isolated dolphin when swimming in the sea of  sharks.

Dire Straits on that point seemed to got a lucky star on them.

it's explained in the Oldfield book that from the beginning, John Illsley has always been the band member who was checking accounts.

In early days, it was him (and also Mark) who was "searching" for contracts, and after signing with Polygram, he always had an eye on the financial side.

That's why the band was in confidence with the record company, beacuse they knew that one of them looked at accounts, and sort of "accountant" of the band.

And of course, the relationship between Ed and the band, especially Mark, was based on friendship....until 1999-2000


Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: rosco on August 27, 2013, 09:23:59 PM
The link below is the book that MK read on the Colonel(Andreas Cornelis ("Dries") van Kuijk).

Amazingly nobody knew in the Elvis camp that the wily old Dutchman was Dutch never mind an illegal alien until well after Elvis died in 1977.

In the Nash book, she suggests the reason the Colonel left the Netherlands late 20's early 30's was because he had killed a woman in Breda.

The guy screwed Elvis big time financially as well as artistically - even wangling it to take 50% of Elvis's total earnings

A great book by the way.  In my opinion the Colonel is one of the reasons resulting in Elvis dying so young.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Colonel-Extraordinary-Parker-Presley/dp/1845130251/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1377630750&sr=8-3&keywords=alanna+nash
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: Ale on February 18, 2014, 06:38:37 PM
The song is about Coronel Tom Parker, manager of Elvis Prestley. Coronel was a semi-legal immigrant, almost a con-man, working in side shows. Then he met Elvis-"a country boy, a bird who sings", and reportedly made him (actually his parents) sign a horrendous contract. It practically put Elvis in complete dependence, while Tom got most of the money. Comparrison to a gator means that when the coronel got a hold of you, he won't let you go. Pretty much what he did to his most famous client.

You're too kind -- Parker wasn't semi, he was an illegal immigrant, and since he couldn't get a passport, Elvis only traveled when he was in the army because Parker couldn't take the chance of Elvis making friends or listening to professional advice from anyone. (Parker made him turn down all the offers, including a request from Queen Elizabeth for a Command Performance.  He also vetoed any film that would have required Elvis to go out of the country on location.)  Elvis was of age and signed a contract that gave half of everything to Parker.  His mother was against it, she disliked and distrusted Parker (smart lady).  Parker chose everything, from songs, to films scripts to Vegas only with money in mind.  What a waste of a talented young man's life......

well i must agree with most of the things you said...but Parker , together with RCA and the film producer ONLY chose the movies songs....Elvis always chose the non movie stuff....that means more than 400 songs
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: Stanko on January 27, 2015, 03:14:44 PM
I NEVER would have understood the lyrics without this forum. Thank You !

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Gator Blood
Post by: Stanko on April 02, 2015, 09:24:08 PM
In my opinion butter paddle refers to Elvis wearing style - I mean the shape of his trousers/pants
So great lol ;D