A Mark In Time
Previous Tours => 2013 Privateering World Tour => Topic started by: GennT on April 23, 2013, 11:05:16 PM
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Please note that Mark Knopfler has no objection to fans bringing into the show cameras and personal recording equipment to record the show, providing such photographs/recordings are for private use only and these activities do not interfere with the enjoyment of other fans.
i) Cameras - Fans can take photos of the show on personal cameras, including digital cameras, provided it is for personal use and non-professional purposes. Cameras with removable lenses are not permitted.
ii) Audio recording - This is permitted. Fans with walkmans, cassette recorders and small personal recording devices are permitted to tape the show, providing it is for their own personal use and non-commercial purposes.
iii) Video cameras - ARE NOT allowed under any circumstances.
The use of video cameras and mobile phones during the performance has become a major irritation for fans and a distraction for Mark and the band. We don't want to restrict your enjoyment at the shows but please respect Mark's request and resist the temptation to use these devices during the show.
PCM, 23rd April 2013
Just got this on my feed. Does this mean I can't take my Sony NEX with me? It's a tiny tiny tiny camera but it has a removable lens.
Btw, Isaac just confirmed on his Facebook that he's attending the complete tour!
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Is the recording policy being less strict this year? Or whas photos always ok?
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I think this is a very fair and well written policy. I was not really aware if recording is allowed or not, the same with digital cameras. So recording IS allowed, taking fotographs IS allowed as long as with a little camera. It is reasonable and understandable now that he just doesn't want to see all those smartphones, displays, cameras etc. put right into his face. That's fair enough.
Only thing I have reservations is if the damned security gonzos are able to understand this security and make us use what we are allowed to.
Great news about Isaac! Comes a a little surprise, two days before tour start. And Jeroen will escort him! :wave
LE
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Very enlightened policy from the management, especially as the concerts are being recorded and sold officially. Weren't the Simfy recordings the reason for the banning of recordings during the 2010 tour?
Wonder if the Spanish Tracker will now relax their stance of not allowing any audio recordings (apart from the RAH) to be shared on the Tracker?
Just a word of caution, In most cases the policy of the venue trumps that of the artist, so if the venue does not allow recording or photography, you could still fall foul of over zealous security. I'm surprised that the statement from PCM does not mention this as they have always done in the past.
So stay safe and good luck with your recordings!!
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I think the Spanish Tracker now can allow these recordings, because they are officially allowed (only for personal use) but I suppose you can read that in terms that it's not allowed to sell them. Or maybe the tracker can allow them say 6 months after the tour so it won't affect selling of the official recordings. We will see, maybe they can get in touch with management to have it clear.
Yes, now it's official, Jeroen and Isaac join the whole tour together. I knew it, but wasn't allow to tell and I understand.
There will be a blog again so we can follow the tour. I like it very much.
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Please note that Mark Knopfler has no objection to fans bringing into the show cameras and personal recording equipment to record the show, providing such photographs/recordings are for private use only and these activities do not interfere with the enjoyment of other fans.
i) Cameras - Fans can take photos of the show on personal cameras, including digital cameras, provided it is for personal use and non-professional purposes. Cameras with removable lenses are not permitted.
ii) Audio recording - This is permitted. Fans with walkmans, cassette recorders and small personal recording devices are permitted to tape the show, providing it is for their own personal use and non-commercial purposes.
iii) Video cameras - ARE NOT allowed under any circumstances.
The use of video cameras and mobile phones during the performance has become a major irritation for fans and a distraction for Mark and the band. We don't want to restrict your enjoyment at the shows but please respect Mark's request and resist the temptation to use these devices during the show.
PCM, 23rd April 2013
Just got this on my feed. Does this mean I can't take my Sony NEX with me? It's a tiny tiny tiny camera but it has a removable lens.
Btw, Isaac just confirmed on his Facebook that he's attending the complete tour!
I think your NEX falls between the two GlennT; it does have removable lenses, but it isn't a big, heavy, clumsy digital SLR which is the kind they are trying to deter, I believe. As long as you take only one lens then I think it would be fine.
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Very enlightened policy from the management, especially as the concerts are being recorded and sold officially. Weren't the Simfy recordings the reason for the banning of recordings during the 2010 tour?
Audio recording for MK solo tours has NEVER been banned even in 2010.
The only times it happened was :
- when Mark opened for Bob Dylan in 2011 and 2012 because it was Bob's policy that prevailed
- because of the stronger venue policy
- security that did not understood correctly the policy at the pre show meeting, or absence of that meeting. This is why it is recommended to print a copy of the policy and take it with you to check with them when possible.
But as it is sometimes the case on grey sharing sites such as the Spanish Tracker, when an official recording is put out on sale, audience source may not be permitted to be shared.
May I ask an "extra" : disable the electronic "tchic thac" sound on your camera - how many of you keep it whitout knowing that it can be switched off? - that way you will be able to take your pictures with more discretion and not disturbing your neighborhood.
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May I ask an "extra" : disable the electronic "tchic thac" sound on your camera - how many of you keep it whitout knowing that it can be switched off? - that way you will be able to take your pictures with more discretion and not disturbing your neighborhood.
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Agree!
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May I ask an "extra" : disable the electronic "tchic thac" sound on your camera - how many of you keep it whitout knowing that it can be switched off? - that way you will be able to take your pictures with more discretion and not disturbing your neighborhood.
And turn the flash-option off. It's also irritating and , and has no use at all! A couple of weeks ago I was at a concert by a Dutch band called Blof. At their concerts it's also allowed to record everything. They encouraged it even! But they asked the audience to turn off the flash of their camera's.
Lars B.
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I think the Spanish Tracker now can allow these recordings, because they are officially allowed (only for personal use) but I suppose you can read that in terms that it's not allowed to sell them. Or maybe the tracker can allow them say 6 months after the tour so it won't affect selling of the official recordings. We will see, maybe they can get in touch with management to have it clear.
Yes, now it's official, Jeroen and Isaac join the whole tour together. I knew it, but wasn't allow to tell and I understand.
There will be a blog again so we can follow the tour. I like it very much.
We would be happy allowing recordings in the tracker. It's our leifmotiv to do it! But we're afraid with all the anti-piracy campaigns, so we don't want to stand out or be confused with sites that share official stuff.
Of course, I'm not afraid of MK or PCM, as we know they're share-friendly. My fears are about not so friendly big companies as Universal (or Bleecker Street as seller of the USB sticks). Not to mention "evil" organizations as RIAA (or SGAE in Spain).
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I would have preferred a take pictures for first few songs policy rather than the whole show or they could upload a few professional photos onto the stick.
Will i be allowed to put my phone on the stage to record the show i am going to at the RAH :lol.
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I think your NEX falls between the two GlennT; it does have removable lenses, but it isn't a big, heavy, clumsy digital SLR which is the kind they are trying to deter, I believe. As long as you take only one lens then I think it would be fine.
Thanks dmg, I really appreciate your thoughts on this. It's a shame not to use this mini-beast. :D
I'll be taking the camera with me to take photos in Istanbul since it's my first time visiting it, hopefully I won't have any problems at the venue though. I'm going to take just a few pics and keep it in my backpack because I know it's very annoying to take pictures while people are enjoying the concert. I'm going there for the music and I respect Mark's decision.
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As mentioned earlier, I will tape all my shows. I think even dime would now allow these recordings. I think...
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As mentioned earlier, I will tape all my shows. I think even dime would now allow these recordings. I think...
I don
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Will the recordings be shared and how?
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Will the recordings be shared and how?
There are plenty of trackers out there, if anyone records the shows from the audience, I guess he/she would find how to do it.
Dime won
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I asked Guy in his forum if they (PCM) will inform the venues and their staff about it so they let us record or take pictures without being bothered by any stewart during the show... bothering all the rest around us, specially at the RAH
I think that it will worth that we repeat the question from time to time, specially before the RAH shows, and during.
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I used to take my (film & later digital) SLR cameras when it was allowed, but I've respected the recent photo policy and used a small digital compact for the Get Lucky tour - despite the quality suffering :smack. I fully support the requests to turn off the flash & camera beeps and clicks - most cameras have an option to do this if you can find it in the menu! AND- if you are thinking of buying a camera to take to a show - try and find one with an old fashioned viewfinder. - Having to hold your camera up at arms length to see the screen on the back is almost as distracting for the people around you as having a flash go off.