A Mark In Time
Previous Tours => 2013 Privateering World Tour => Topic started by: Best Brown Baggies on May 17, 2013, 07:47:29 AM
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BBC Four Sessions: Mark Knopfler
BBC Four | 23 May
BBC Four Sessions celebrates classic musicians and their body of work.
In this special show being filmed at Maidstone Studios in Kent, legendary British singer songwriter and guitarist Mark Knopfler and his band perform songs from his extensive catalogue of solo work plus one or two from the Dire Straits library.
All information is correct at time of publication.
Date
23 May
Time
7.30pm
Venue
Maidstone Studios
Programme details
No extra details available.
Minimum age: 18
Maximum tickets per request: 2
Apply now
http://www.bbc.co.uk/showsandtours/shows/shows/bbcfoursessions_23may13
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Have I missed something here, or is this breaking news?
He is in Cardiff 22nd, Birmingham 24th, so 23rd is free
for this!
You can apply for free audience tickets!
I can't go :-\ but there maybe some of you that can attend? :D
Cheers BBB
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Thank you BBB for this information. I would have loved to be there, but I don't think I could squeeze it in, unfortunately! Something to look forward to on television, though! :wave
PS - Applied, so hoping for some good news! 8)
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This is great news!
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So this is for be broadcasted?
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So this is for be broadcasted?
Yes! :)
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Is this the source of the possible DVD release ?
It seems to be a shortened show: "one or two from DS", this probably means no TR... :(
And if this is just one show to be filmed, very unlikely to get both KOG and YTC on the DVD...
I thought the plan was to film all the RAH shows, with a great variety of songs, to release them all on video ?
Any more info ?
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According to Guy on his forum, the RAH isn't being filmed, but he did imply that something else would happen and this is obviously it!
I am very happy about it - it is better than nothing at all and the BBC4 Sessions are usually very well done and are an hour long - usually! I expect it will be something like "A Night in London". Let's hope SOS is included this time! ;)
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I don't think Hitch will be part of the band at this thing so the set will probably be a "standard" one without things like Speedway, TR and that other 13 min. one (can't bring myself to...
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Actually, from a 2 hours set, if you take out TR, you have 1 hour and 45 minutes...
I saw some others Live Shows from the BBc4 and I think they are about one hour, at least in the broadcast. Isnt it?
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I don't think Hitch will be part of the band at this thing so the set will probably be a "standard" one without things like Speedway, TR and that other 13 min. one (can't bring myself to...
Why not Speedway? It's not very long and I regard it as pretty standard now. I doubt we get TR or Marbletown, unfortunately, as they will eat up most of the programme, but I hope for SOS! :)
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I don't think Hitch will be part of the band at this thing so the set will probably be a "standard" one without things like Speedway, TR and that other 13 min. one (can't bring myself to...
Why not Speedway? It's not very long and I regard it as pretty standard now. I doubt we get TR or Marbletown, unfortunately, as they will eat up most of the programme, but I hope for SOS! :)
Speedway doesn't really lend itself to a studio setting with it's loud thunderous finale I don't think. Perhaps I'm wrong.
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I don't think Hitch will be part of the band at this thing so the set will probably be a "standard" one without things like Speedway, TR and that other 13 min. one (can't bring myself to...
Why not Speedway? It's not very long and I regard it as pretty standard now. I doubt we get TR or Marbletown, unfortunately, as they will eat up most of the programme, but I hope for SOS! :)
Speedway doesn't really lend itself to a studio setting with it's loud thunderous finale I don't think. Perhaps I'm wrong.
Are we condemned to have only one version of video for TR (Alchemy) and Speedway (RLRR) ?
As great as they are, I would like alternate ones !
As for MT, I want it on video ! :p
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Nobody from the UK is answering about the lenght of the broadcasted show?
I hope that they do as with the Jools Holland show in 1996, they broadcast a small part but release it full on dvd.
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I don't think Hitch will be part of the band at this thing so the set will probably be a "standard" one without things like Speedway, TR and that other 13 min. one (can't bring myself to...
Why not Speedway? It's not very long and I regard it as pretty standard now. I doubt we get TR or Marbletown, unfortunately, as they will eat up most of the programme, but I hope for SOS! :)
Speedway doesn't really lend itself to a studio setting with it's loud thunderous finale I don't think. Perhaps I'm wrong.
Are we condemned to have only one version of video for TR (Alchemy) and Speedway (RLRR) ?
As great as they are, I would like alternate ones !
As for MT, I want it on video ! :p
You want MT on video, look at the musicians: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transatlantic-Sessions-DVD-Aly-Bain/dp/B0065GQW32/ref=sr_1_3?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1368786538&sr=1-3&keywords=celtic+connections
That is even better probably! ::)
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Yes, I have that video! Very nice, but not remotely like Marbletown! ;D
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Nobody from the UK is answering about the lenght of the broadcasted show?
I hope that they do as with the Jools Holland show in 1996, they broadcast a small part but release it full on dvd.
well it was full on VHS, but not on DVD ;)
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Nobody from the UK is answering about the lenght of the broadcasted show?
I hope that they do as with the Jools Holland show in 1996, they broadcast a small part but release it full on dvd.
well it was full on VHS, but not on DVD ;)
I still wonder if even for the VHS there was some leftover. That said, the VHS was 112 minute long when at that time regurlar MK show were near the 150.
And actualy the first mexican run of the DVD was the 18 tracks - 112 minute version : A NIGHT IN LONDON (http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/officially_owned_dvd_anil3.htm)
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Marijn was there, he can tell us
Marijn?
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Is it Jools? Is it Mariella? I'm going for Jools.
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These are usually one hour shows with no host.
They are usually broadcast within a fortnight of recording.
The BBC4 schedule is published up to 26.05 and MK isn't listed.
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From guy's forum!
about the filming
Borja Garcia
A coru
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Meaning: yes, there is a possibility! ::)
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This explains why Guy's response to questions about a possible RAH recording was always 'no'..but why would there be a gap in the sticks for RAH? Now apparently a stick will be available for the 27th :think. Seems to me that some plans were altered.
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This show with the BBC will have been arranged many months ago.
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Any of you Privateers "Get Lucky" with scoring tickets?
I just heard that I didn't.
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I didn't either! :(
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Any of you got tickets for this?
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Mikel has
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According to MK News, the competition was open until Monday, 20th May at midnight and the winners would be announced today, Tuesday 21st May, which is strange because I heard yesterday from the BBC that I was unsuccessful!
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It's pity Val! Hoped you were in ???
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Mikel has
I mean, ANY OF US
Its supposed that you have to be a UK resident, if I was informed correctly about it.
:lol :lol :lol
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Yes it was supposed to be UK residents only! There seems to have been two competitions for this show - one for BBC4 and the other on MK News. I heard from another source that someone knew they had won on Saturday! Something is not quite right about this! :think
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Yes it was supposed to be UK residents only! There seems to have been two competitions for this show - one for BBC4 and the other on MK News. I heard from another source that someone knew they had won on Saturday! Something is not quite right about this! :think
Well, we all know that they are some wires to plug in, for some people ;D
I can
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It was there last night, but was removed because the competition ended at midnight last night! Now there is only the mention of the BBC4 show!
I entered again on the MK News competition - the winners should be announced today!
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Finally any of you got lucky?
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Or better said, did any of you, fellows amiters, applied?
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Or better said, did any of you, fellows amiters, applied?
Yes, I applied, but obviously wasn't a winner! :(
Jbaent - Were you at the Liverpool gig - I was hoping to meet you at last?
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Or better said, did any of you, fellows amiters, applied?
Yes, I applied, but obviously wasn't a winner! :(
Jbaent - Were you at the Liverpool gig - I was hoping to meet you at last?
Yes I was, but arrived quite late, around 19.15 ans had my seat directly. I spent the morning in Manchester and then arrived to Liverpool, took a nap in the hotel and went directly to dinner close to the venue, and then to the show, everything on time but without free time to meet people.
The day before I met Ingrid in Newcastle ;D
Maybe in London? I
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Or better said, did any of you, fellows amiters, applied?
Yes, I applied, but obviously wasn't a winner! :(
Jbaent - Were you at the Liverpool gig - I was hoping to meet you at last?
Yes I was, but arrived quite late, around 19.15 ans had my seat directly. I spent the morning in Manchester and then arrived to Liverpool, took a nap in the hotel and went directly to dinner close to the venue, and then to the show, everything on time but without free time to meet people.
The day before I met Ingrid in Newcastle ;D
Maybe in London? I
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I entered the competition but haven't heard anything so assume I wasn't lucky enough to win. According to John McCusker's Twitter page it's Later with Jools Holland they are recording.
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I entered the competition but haven't heard anything so assume I wasn't lucky enough to win. According to John McCusker's Twitter page it's Later with Jools Holland they are recording.
That's interesting news - now we know what to look for in the listings.
It's been a while since he's been on that show! I wonder when it'll be broadcast... :think
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I entered the competition but haven't heard anything so assume I wasn't lucky enough to win. According to John McCusker's Twitter page it's Later with Jools Holland they are recording.
That's interesting news - now we know what to look for in the listings.
It's been a while since he's been on that show! I wonder when it'll be broadcast... :think
I hope it's like "A Night in London" and not just a couple of songs on the regular "Later" show! I would guess the former, because I don't see MK doing just one or two songs. Also strange that the competition was advertised as BBC4 Sessions, which is entirely different. "Later" is BBC2! :think
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I entered the competition but haven't heard anything so assume I wasn't lucky enough to win. According to John McCusker's Twitter page it's Later with Jools Holland they are recording.
That's interesting news - now we know what to look for in the listings.
It's been a while since he's been on that show! I wonder when it'll be broadcast... :think
I hope it's like "A Night in London" and not just a couple of songs on the regular "Later" show! I would guess the former, because I don't see MK doing just one or two songs. Also strange that the competition was advertised as BBC4 Sessions, which is entirely different. "Later" is BBC2! :think
Maybe just using different studios since it's a special. ;) I've got a feeling it'll be something like ANIL.
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Maybe is McCusker who mixed things and its not Jools but BBC4 sessions...
They are two very different programmes...
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Maybe is McCusker who mixed things and its not Jools but BBC4 sessions...
They are two very different programmes...
Remember MK and Jools are friends...
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Maybe is McCusker who mixed things and its not Jools but BBC4 sessions...
They are two very different programmes...
Remember MK and Jools are friends...
Yes but these are two very different programmes...
If they are shooting "Late with Jools" they are not shooting "BBC FOUR SESSIONS"
Unless they are doing both in one day, maybe two or three songs during the morning or afternoon for Jools show, and then the BBC4 sessions...
The "contest" was for the BBC4 sessions... nor for Late with Jools.
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Maybe is McCusker who mixed things and its not Jools but BBC4 sessions...
They are two very different programmes...
Remember MK and Jools are friends...
Yes but these are two very different programmes...
If they are shooting "Late with Jools" they are not shooting "BBC FOUR SESSIONS"
Unless they are doing both in one day, maybe two or three songs during the morning or afternoon for Jools show, and then the BBC4 sessions...
The "contest" was for the BBC4 sessions... nor for Late with Jools.
I don't think John would get mixed up - either Jools is there or he isn't!
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Yes, but maybe its just that Jools are with them, or they are doing both, or...
or they told us it was BBC 4 sessions but its not.
??? ??? ???
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Later with Jools is normally shown live on a Tuesday night at 10 for 1/2 an hour and then repeated Friday night but with extra content so i can't see it being a regular 2/3 song appearance on the normal show. More likely to be a special similar to ANIL if indeed it is with Jools. :)
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Later with Jools is normally shown live on a Tuesday night at 10 for 1/2 an hour and then repeated Friday night but with extra content so i can't see it being a regular 2/3 song appearance on the normal show. More likely to be a special similar to ANIL if indeed it is with Jools. :)
The little thing I know about "Later with Jools" is that he does two type of programmes, special ones with only one artist, and the usual one with several artists, in different stages at the same place. I saw some videos of him introducing the programme where he introduce several different artists or bands, all in diferent stages at the same place, and some of them were very famous, like Mike Oldfield.
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From the Guy
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From the Guy
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Will any forum member be there? Would be nice to hear a review and the setlist.
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Will any forum member be there? Would be nice to hear a review and the setlist.
Also, I wonder what the other song(s) was/were they rehearsed for this programme... :think
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Will there be any AMITer here tonight to give us the set-list, eihter real time or after the show ?
Am I wrong or this set list could be the content of the DVD/BD to be released ?
Is it confirmed 7.30pm like any other MK show ?
Thanks for any info, I'm getting confused over that one...
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Someone more news? Guy is today perhaps also with an update!
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If the op had put free tickets in the subject title i might have had a chance to go to this one.
:lol
only read the thread today :(
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jbaent or binone, are you in touch with mikel? going to try via facebook.
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Yes, Mikel sent a photo outside the studios. Far from London.
I
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Its a pity that we dont have anybody inside. Unless there is someone that didnt tell us before...
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Maybe move this to Privateering tour section?
It's part of the tour
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Intersting tweet from technical about recording show https://twitter.com/tudorsound/status/337622739332509696
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Any news ?
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Mikel says:
2 hours show
What it is, corned, privateering, father, hillfarmer, tupelo, kingdom, Romeo, sonny, I use to could, haul away, marble, Telegraph, speedway, going home
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don't think they will broadcast two hours. :(
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Great set list! Hopefully it will be released in full! (Probably not...) But Kingdom of Gold is in it, therefore I could live without Sultans anytime!
This will probably not released in complete, or what do you think?
LE
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BBC 4 sessions are usually an hour... best we can hope for is that we get a few extra tracks on the "red button", that's what happened with Paul Simon.
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Mikel says:
2 hours show
What it is, corned, privateering, father, hillfarmer, tupelo, kingdom, Romeo, sonny, I use to could, haul away, marble, Telegraph, speedway, going home
Thank you so much !!
So the good news for a DVD is:
-full show !
- at last another version of TR than Alchemy on video !
- KOG !!
And now the bad news:
- No YTC, I wanted it so much on video :(
- No postcards, would have been great on video instead of :&:@;@;-"- Sonny
- No Sultans (but it would have paled in comparison to Alchemy anyway)
- No Piper (but I prefer the studio version to live ones)
Still, the setlist reflects a will of diversity: Sultans Borthers and SFA are already available in great versions
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Great set list! Hopefully it will be released in full! (Probably not...) But Kingdom of Gold is in it, therefore I could live without Sultans anytime!
This will probably not released in complete, or what do you think?
LE
Don't care about the broadcast but they better release the DVD/BD in full, no excuse !!
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Maybe Mikel forgot to mention some songs, I dont know...
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Great set list! Hopefully it will be released in full! (Probably not...) But Kingdom of Gold is in it, therefore I could live without Sultans anytime!
This will probably not released in complete, or what do you think?
LE
Don't care about the broadcast but they better release the DVD/BD in full, no excuse !!
No BBC 4 sessions show has ever been released as far I am aware, but you never know.
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Maybe Mikel forgot to mention some songs, I dont know...
This is one song shorter than usual... I hope he forgot Postcards and not SFA.
If only he forgot YTC... And for once both KOG and YTC have been played for video release... Bit I'm in dreamer mode again :(
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TR & Speedway inverted?? :think
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Great set list! Hopefully it will be released in full! (Probably not...) But Kingdom of Gold is in it, therefore I could live without Sultans anytime!
This will probably not released in complete, or what do you think?
LE
Don't care about the broadcast but they better release the DVD/BD in full, no excuse !!
No BBC 4 sessions show has ever been released as far I am aware, but you never know.
Wasn' it the plan this year ??? ANIL 2 ??
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gator blood was also played. mikel just posted.
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and NO jools!
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gator blood was also played. mikel just posted.
Don't care much about this one, leaves me as cold as with IUTC :( why no postcards instead ? :(
And no song from the great GL album... Don't care much about CMG but Piper would have been lovely instead of a 3rd version of GH. Was Nigel there at least ?
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Great set list! Hopefully it will be released in full! (Probably not...) But Kingdom of Gold is in it, therefore I could live without Sultans anytime!
This will probably not released in complete, or what do you think?
LE
If they again cut TR out of the release (if there is one), I'm going to strangle the guilty one with my bare hands
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Wasn' it the plan this year ??? ANIL 2 ??
yes seems ANIL 2 really
don't forget that the dvd will NOT contain 2 songs that were actually played
Can I chose them ? Sony and IUTC ? :)
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Wasn' it the plan this year ??? ANIL 2 ??
yes seems ANIL 2 really
don't forget that the dvd will NOT contain 2 songs that were actually played
I think the guy from the setlist knew this and that's why Sultans isn't mentioned ;)
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btw just type 'live at the royal albert hall' at Amazon
you get a ton of artists DVDs there
but Guy Fletcher says it's too expensive...
I'd guess that it depends on the expected sale figures. A "Recent chartstormer artist live at RAH" DVD is going to sell in huge numbers. I assume that another reason lies in the overhead MK has to pay due to his very high quality standard and touring lifestyle.
But I'm sure that a recording of the BBC4 sessions (e.g. in the shape of a bonus disc) will see the light of the day when in late 2014 a new album is about to released. (Disclaimer: This is just my own forecast, there are no rumours or indications of that.)
In another scenario the management may send a download link to the BBC Sessions for free to all members of AMIT as a gift for their everlasting allegiance. ::)
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btw just type 'live at the royal albert hall' at Amazon
you get a ton of artists DVDs there
but Guy Fletcher says it's too expensive...
I'd guess that it depends on the expected sale figures. A "Recent chartstormer artist live at RAH" DVD is going to sell in huge numbers. I assume that another reason lies in the overhead MK has to pay due to his very high quality standard and touring lifestyle.
But I'm sure that a recording of the BBC4 sessions (e.g. in the shape of a bonus disc) will see the light of the day when in late 2014 a new album is about to released. (Disclaimer: This is just my own forecast, there are no rumours or indications of that.)
In another scenario the management may send a download link to the BBC Sessions for free to all members of AMIT as a gift for their everlasting allegiance. ::)
When you say "recording", "bonus disc", do you mean audio or video ?
Audio would be of litle interest given the sticks, and late 2014 is very late...
I hope they simply do what they did in 2006 for RLRR: Summer, tour - November, DVD !!
It is said that RLRR sales figures were terrible and that's the reason why we haven't got a DVD/BD since.
But as great as it was, RLRR was advertised as a MK/Emmy concert, with very few tunes known to the public - only Speedway as a "rocking" song with some celebrity.
It could be different for a pure MK concert, with more rocking tunes (WII especially is known). If they include TR (they better do, or I kill them), that's one great and famous song that may trigger some sales. Of course, not playing Sultans (and therefore of course not including it on the DVD) will not help !
Since RLRR they have released the great and famous Alchemy concert in BD. Does anybody know the sales figures for that one ? it is probably the reference number, i.e. the maximum sales that such a product could get.
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When you say "recording", "bonus disc", do you mean audio or video ?
Audio would be of litle interest given the sticks, and late 2014 is very late...
I'd place my bet on a video release.
I hope they simply do what they did in 2006 for RLRR: Summer, tour - November, DVD !!
It is said that RLRR sales figures were terrible and that's the reason why we haven't got a DVD/BD since.
But as great as it was, RLRR was advertised as a MK/Emmy concert, with very few tunes known to the public - only Speedway as a "rocking" song with some celebrity.
It could be different for a pure MK concert, with more rocking tunes (WII especially is known). If they include TR (they better do, or I kill them), that's one great and famous song that may trigger some sales. Of course, not playing Sultans (and therefore of course not including it on the DVD) will not help !
Since RLRR they have released the great and famous Alchemy concert in BD. Does anybody know the sales figures for that one ? it is probably the reference number, i.e. the maximum sales that such a product could get.
For the approximate sales figures of Alchemy Blue Ray (Release 2010) I'd like you to have a look at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemy:_Dire_Straits_Live#Video (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemy:_Dire_Straits_Live#Video)
Sales figures of Adele live at the RAH 2011:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_the_Royal_Albert_Hall_%28Adele_video%29#Charts_and_certifications (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_the_Royal_Albert_Hall_%28Adele_video%29#Charts_and_certifications)
If I compare the numbers correctly (my head is slightly aching today, so please have a look for yourself), Adele has been selling more than two times better and it's on the market since 2011.
Regarding RLRR I'm about to make a confession, but please don't tell anyone: I absolutely cannot stand the voice of EH. I didn't manage yet to watch RLRR in one piece, as I have to fast forward all the time. The same happens with ATRR, which is a shame as there are some heart-meltingly beautiful songs on it. Some songs I do even assess as a pinnacle in the category of storytelling/observation songs about "common" people.
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Was that thing with ANIL 2? Was this really officially announced that way by someone? Or was it just fannish amit-talk?
LE
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When you say "recording", "bonus disc", do you mean audio or video ?
Audio would be of litle interest given the sticks, and late 2014 is very late...
I'd place my bet on a video release.
I hope they simply do what they did in 2006 for RLRR: Summer, tour - November, DVD !!
It is said that RLRR sales figures were terrible and that's the reason why we haven't got a DVD/BD since.
But as great as it was, RLRR was advertised as a MK/Emmy concert, with very few tunes known to the public - only Speedway as a "rocking" song with some celebrity.
It could be different for a pure MK concert, with more rocking tunes (WII especially is known). If they include TR (they better do, or I kill them), that's one great and famous song that may trigger some sales. Of course, not playing Sultans (and therefore of course not including it on the DVD) will not help !
Since RLRR they have released the great and famous Alchemy concert in BD. Does anybody know the sales figures for that one ? it is probably the reference number, i.e. the maximum sales that such a product could get.
For the approximate sales figures of Alchemy Blue Ray (Release 2010) I'd like you to have a look at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemy:_Dire_Straits_Live#Video (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemy:_Dire_Straits_Live#Video)
Sales figures of Adele live at the RAH 2011:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_the_Royal_Albert_Hall_%28Adele_video%29#Charts_and_certifications (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_the_Royal_Albert_Hall_%28Adele_video%29#Charts_and_certifications)
If I compare the numbers correctly (my head is slightly aching today, so please have a look for yourself), Adele has been selling more than two times better and it's on the market since 2011.
Regarding RLRR I'm about to make a confession, but please don't tell anyone: I absolutely cannot stand the voice of EH. I didn't manage yet to watch RLRR in one piece, as I have to fast forward all the time. The same happens with ATRR, which is a shame as there are some heart-meltingly beautiful songs on it. Some songs I do even assess as a pinnacle in the category of storytelling/observation songs about "common" people.
Thanks !
Not too sure on how to compare these figures though - are we talking about the VHS ? the laserdisc ? the recent DVD/BD ?
As for EH, you are puzzling me, I am absolutely fond of the blend of MK/EH voices, but I guess every taste is in nature :) IDUAP from Amsterdam 2013 is nice, but I prefer the 2006 RRLR version with EH and the "battle of guitars" way better.
Agree with you on the album though - it is a full MK album for me, and it is often underrated here. IDUAP, Rolling On, the title track... real wonders !
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If they had planned to release this on DVD/BD, then surely playing Sultans is a must because it would be the deciding factor for many in whether they actually purchase it or not. Not playing Sultans is either a massive mistake by MK or they don't plan on releasing a DVD/BD anyway.
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Was that thing with ANIL 2? Was this really officially announced that way by someone? Or was it just fannish amit-talk?
LE
Good question.
I think it all started because Guy answered in a little-less-than-usual evasive way when asked if there will be a DVD/BR this time.
At first it was believed that the RAH shows would be filmed, with different songs every night, so that an exhaustive video compilation could be released.
Obvisouly we were dreaming, and when it was announced by Guy that the shows in RAH would not be filmed, all hopes converged to this BBC4 thing. So far Guy refused to confirm or infirm anything about it. Reading between the lines of this forum it seems that there *might* be a DVD project still going on, since he did not say it will not happen, even after confirmed that RAH shows would not be filmed.
I would love to know more...
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If they had planned to release this on DVD/BD, then surely playing Sultans is a must because it would be the deciding factor for many in whether they actually purchase it or not. Not playing Sultans is either a massive mistake by MK or they don't plan on releasing a DVD/BD anyway.
I can see where you are coming from, maybe Sultans was the reason why RLRR did not sell well...
Still, a "modern" version of Sultans is not what I'm looking for on a DVD... we already have OGWT,Chorus, BBC arena, Alchemy and Live Aid as official releases, all that are better than anything modern IMHO. What i want is the long-awaited WII, HFB and Marbletown (yes, Marbletown, mind you :p) on DVD. Plus the Privateering songs. I would have loved also Border and Piper, too bad no song from GL was played yesterday ! and of course YTC. Oh well. I would be contented with what they played yesterday, but they have to release it !!!
But true, lack of SoS can prevent people from buying...
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If they had planned to release this on DVD/BD, then surely playing Sultans is a must because it would be the deciding factor for many in whether they actually purchase it or not. Not playing Sultans is either a massive mistake by MK or they don't plan on releasing a DVD/BD anyway.
I can see where you are coming from, maybe Sultans was the reason why RLRR did not sell well...
Still, a "modern" version of Sultans is not what I'm looking for on a DVD... we already have OGWT,Chorus, BBC arena, Alchemy and Live Aid as official releases, all that are better than anything modern IMHO. What i want is the long-awaited WII, HFB and Marbletown (yes, Marbletown, mind you :p) on DVD. Plus the Privateering songs. I would have loved also Border and Piper, too bad no song from GL was played yesterday ! and of course YTC. Oh well. I would be contented with what they played yesterday, but they have to release it !!!
But true, lack of SoS can prevent people from buying...
Please, Herlock, can you tell me what exactly is OGWT? :hmm
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If they had planned to release this on DVD/BD, then surely playing Sultans is a must because it would be the deciding factor for many in whether they actually purchase it or not. Not playing Sultans is either a massive mistake by MK or they don't plan on releasing a DVD/BD anyway.
I can see where you are coming from, maybe Sultans was the reason why RLRR did not sell well...
Still, a "modern" version of Sultans is not what I'm looking for on a DVD... we already have OGWT,Chorus, BBC arena, Alchemy and Live Aid as official releases, all that are better than anything modern IMHO. What i want is the long-awaited WII, HFB and Marbletown (yes, Marbletown, mind you :p) on DVD. Plus the Privateering songs. I would have loved also Border and Piper, too bad no song from GL was played yesterday ! and of course YTC. Oh well. I would be contented with what they played yesterday, but they have to release it !!!
But true, lack of SoS can prevent people from buying...
Please, Herlock, can you tell me what exactly is OGWT? :hmm
Old Grey Whistle Test.
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If they had planned to release this on DVD/BD, then surely playing Sultans is a must because it would be the deciding factor for many in whether they actually purchase it or not. Not playing Sultans is either a massive mistake by MK or they don't plan on releasing a DVD/BD anyway.
I can see where you are coming from, maybe Sultans was the reason why RLRR did not sell well...
Still, a "modern" version of Sultans is not what I'm looking for on a DVD... we already have OGWT,Chorus, BBC arena, Alchemy and Live Aid as official releases, all that are better than anything modern IMHO. What i want is the long-awaited WII, HFB and Marbletown (yes, Marbletown, mind you :p) on DVD. Plus the Privateering songs. I would have loved also Border and Piper, too bad no song from GL was played yesterday ! and of course YTC. Oh well. I would be contented with what they played yesterday, but they have to release it !!!
But true, lack of SoS can prevent people from buying...
Please, Herlock, can you tell me what exactly is OGWT? :hmm
Old Grey Whistle Test, a popular music show in the 70's. In 1978 this was DS's first TV appearance. They played Sultans and Lions. Sadly Lions seems to be lost, but Sultans is featured as a bonus track on the Alchemy DVD/BD, together with TOL in 1980. Both in amazing video/audio quality, you would believe your are there ! :)
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Do mean this kind of "lost"? ;D (ok, it's faded out...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfvH9cc9U0Y
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Thank you! I should have known better, of course! These acronyms drive me crazy! ;D
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Do mean this kind of "lost"? ;D (ok, it's faded out...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfvH9cc9U0Y
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Yeah, I knew about this video on youtube, but it is not official, probably a very old amateur recording. What I mean is that if they had it officially, sure they would have released it together with Sultans on the Alchemy DVD/BD ?
The Chorus version is similar but without the fade-out :)
BTW Lions is a wonderful little song, would fit very well today. I really love the Dormund'80 version with keyboards... a bit dated for the synth maybe, but so powerful and emotional, the Lions + News combination was wonderful to experiment with music, and show how little tunes could be turned into epic sagas, before the Alchemy days ! :)
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Yes, Mark once said that "maybe Lions" was the only one of the first albums that he still likes/thinks is relevant... I also think it would fit perfectly well with this 2013 band... Just imagine: Not playing Sultans, ok ok, BUT change it with "Lions"! Now THAT would have been a really great sensational surprise, don't you think? I liked a lot the longer outro that they used to do back in those days. Today, it would sound very similar to the album version, no doubt..
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Yes, Mark once said that "maybe Lions" was the only one of the first albums that he still likes/thinks is relevant... I also think it would fit perfectly well with this 2013 band... Just imagine: Not playing Sultans, ok ok, BUT change it with "Lions"! Now THAT would have been a really great sensational surprise, don't you think? I liked a lot the longer outro that they used to do back in those days. Today, it would sound very similar to the album version, no doubt..
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Do you mean that there is an modern interview from Mark commenting about the first DS albums ?? I'm not aware of it ! Do you have a link ?
But what saddens me is that he seem to think that ONLY Lions would be relevant ?? Is he seriously disowning such gems as Six Blad Knife, In the Gallery, Down to the Waterline, Where do you think you're going, Once Upon a Time in the West, News, Single Handed Sailor, or even Portobello Belle that he used to play not so long ago ('96) ???
All the more that his music today has kind of gone back to these early days. Gone are the epic long songs from the MM and LOG records, gone is the 'pop-like' music of the BIA days... His albums today echo a lot to self-title and Communiqu
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Oh, i have no idea where I read/saw/heard that - one of the bazillion interviews/tv-shows/press-kits/clips that come along when you are a fan for nearly 30 years... as I remember his face while saying it, it must have been a video, but I am not able to specify it, sorry. Only thing I am sure about is that I did not DREAM it...
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Love these early songs - the lyrics on the first album are fantastic and a lot better than his later ones. Take WWE for example, Southbound; great imagery. They're all fantastic with no bad ones or skippers and MK doing what he does best, utilising his main assets.
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Thanks !
Not too sure on how to compare these figures though - are we talking about the VHS ? the laserdisc ? the recent DVD/BD ?
As for EH, you are puzzling me, I am absolutely fond of the blend of MK/EH voices, but I guess every taste is in nature :) IDUAP from Amsterdam 2013 is nice, but I prefer the 2006 RRLR version with EH and the "battle of guitars" way better.
Agree with you on the album though - it is a full MK album for me, and it is often underrated here. IDUAP, Rolling On, the title track... real wonders !
The sales figures are for the recent DVD/BD (Dire Straits 2010/Adele 2011). Ok, the Dire Straits sales figures are still quite impressive given the fact that there has been little advertising/airplay for a recording of a long gone supergroup which dates back to 1984.
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So if the programme lasts about one hour, they will have to cut out loads of songs...
If this is the dvd, I have mixed feelings about it. I dont get why is so damm complicated to release a proper dvd concert. Except Real Live Roadrunning, the only one MK dvd was another special BBC programme.
Anybody releases a RAH dvd, but not MK... Is the money they ask for it really the issue? Even an Spanish artist has released a dvd live at the RAH, and even he has loads of money, he
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So if the programme lasts about one hour, they will have to cut out loads of songs...
If this is the dvd, I have mixed feelings about it. I dont get why is so damm complicated to release a proper dvd concert. Except Real Live Roadrunning, the only one MK dvd was another special BBC programme.
Anybody releases a RAH dvd, but not MK... Is the money they ask for it really the issue? Even an Spanish artist has released a dvd live at the RAH, and even he has loads of money, he
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we already have OGWT,Chorus, BBC arena, Alchemy and Live Aid as official releases
Chorus as official release ? which one ? I want it as Sultans is my fav version from early days
the Lions + News combination was wonderful to experiment with music
I agree that this era was great, but Lions wasn't combined with news.
Lions was combined with Down to the waterline.
David Gilmour is similar to MK in generation, status and popularity
I don't think so.
I think that Floyd 'music had a far big more impact in music history, and therefore Gilmour's popularity cn't be compared to Mark'sone.
And the other difference is that when people go to a Gilmour gig, they are sure to have the classic Floyd tunes, which is not the case with Mark/DS tunes
Portobello Belle that he used to play not so long ago ('96)
it was even part of the 2001 Munich soundcheck
Yes, Mark once said that "maybe Lions" was the only one of the first albums that he still likes/thinks is relevant
never heard about this.
I read thought, taht he could'nt listen to the first 2 albums anymore, but I tought it was in terms of production, not in terms of writing.
It's interesting his statement about Lions, because it's the only song not composed before the album recording.
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Chorus as official release ? which one ? I want it as Sultans is my fav version from early days
You actually have two of them:
- The Chorus 3 DVD pack released in France. On one disk you have some parts: Only Water Of Love, Lions, and Sultans. No interview, and no Eastbound train :( Beware of this release ! there is a bug in Sultans, the sound is ok but in the end the video is slowing down and does not match the sound anymore ! :(
- It is available (with the Interview and Eastbound train) on ina.fr. You can order it as a DVD, they will burn it and send to you. I did that, so that I consider it as an official release :)
I agree that this era was great, but Lions wasn't combined with news.
Lions was combined with Down to the waterline.
Agreed, but that was not my point. I talked about "combination" just to say that these songs were fantastic items on the set-list :)
I don't think so.
I think that Floyd 'music had a far big more impact in music history, and therefore Gilmour's popularity cn't be compared to Mark'sone.
And the other difference is that when people go to a Gilmour gig, they are sure to have the classic Floyd tunes, which is not the case with Mark/DS tunes
I beg to differ. No doubt PF had a huge impact, but this was the case of DS in their heyday. Just watch the sometimes silly, always crazy audience in Nimes and Rotterdam on the "On the Night" DVD :)
And Gilmour did not play everything from Floyd, just a few key milestones (Echoes, Shine On, Comfortably Numb, Wish you Were Here, Breathe, Time,...), just like Mark. A bit more than Mark, ok, granted, but still, half of the concert was made of tunes from the "On a Island", which had a very small impact, if at all, compared to Floyd albums.
it was even part of the 2001 Munich soundcheck
Didn't know that, thanks !
And Setting me Up was even reheased recently, I think...
So why disowning those wonderful albums ? Because it reminds him of the bad relationship with David ?
I read thought, taht he could'nt listen to the first 2 albums anymore, but I tought it was in terms of production, not in terms of writing.
It's interesting his statement about Lions, because it's the only song not composed before the album recording.
I did not hear him say that, but I remember him saying that he once heard TR from the LOG album in a caf
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Guy says the BBC show will be on air at the end of the year.
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Guy says the BBC show will be on air at the end of the year.
Where does he say that ? I couln't find anything on the forum or the diaries...
"On air" meaning ? broadcast ? DVD ?
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John McCusker also tweets about the tv airing later this year:
"Had a brilliant time filming the Later tv special yesterday - will be on the telly later in the year pic.twitter.com/aO1a4TJ1cI"
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John McCusker also tweets about the tv airing later this year:
"Had a brilliant time filming the Later tv special yesterday - will be on the telly later in the year pic.twitter.com/aO1a4TJ1cI"
Can't be bothered with broadcast, I don't even receive British TV ! ok that's better than nothing because then some friends here will certainly record it, but still, what we need is a blu-ray...
Any idea if those shows which are broadcaster end up in a DVD/BD: sometimes, often, rarely, never ?
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John McCusker also tweets about the tv airing later this year:
"Had a brilliant time filming the Later tv special yesterday - will be on the telly later in the year pic.twitter.com/aO1a4TJ1cI"
Can't be bothered with broadcast, I don't even receive British TV ! ok that's better than nothing because then some friends here will certainly record it, but still, what we need is a blu-ray...
Any idea if those shows which are broadcaster end up in a DVD/BD: sometimes, often, rarely, never ?
ANIL was! As I don't have Blu-ray, I would be quite content with a DVD, or if not I would be quite happy with just the broadcast and then I can record it myself - just so long as I can see it over and over......! ;)
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So if the programme lasts about one hour, they will have to cut out loads of songs...
If this is the dvd, I have mixed feelings about it. I dont get why is so damm complicated to release a proper dvd concert. Except Real Live Roadrunning, the only one MK dvd was another special BBC programme.
Anybody releases a RAH dvd, but not MK... Is the money they ask for it really the issue? Even an Spanish artist has released a dvd live at the RAH, and even he has loads of money, he
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But what about audience? Was there an audience last night? Isn't it a bit strange that if Mark finally, after all these years, releases a DVD or Blu-ray from his tour, he will take the show he played in a TV studio in front of 100 people who not necessarily are huge fans? I don't know the details about last night, but it do sound strange to me. Personally I hope they will film a "real" gig on the tour and release that one - with Sultans. I know that song is great on Alchemy, but I want a new version with perfect HD picture and sound :)
But of course, what I want most of all is some sort of DVD/Blu-ray release from this tour, so if that means I will get a recording from a TV studio, I'll happily take it :)
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You actually have two of them:
- The Chorus 3 DVD pack released in France. On one disk you have some parts: Only Water Of Love, Lions, and Sultans. No interview, and no Eastbound train :( Beware of this release ! there is a bug in Sultans, the sound is ok but in the end the video is slowing down and does not match the sound anymore ! :(
- It is available (with the Interview and Eastbound train) on ina.fr. You can order it as a DVD, they will burn it and send to you. I did that, so that I consider it as an official release :)
ah ok thanks for the info
I did not hear him say that, but I remember him saying that he once heard TR from the LOG album in a caf
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Yes he often quotes the LOG album as too cold, and "too much elaborated"
Too bad he thinks that the only moment he went into Pink Floyd's aera (progressive rock) with great success was "too much elaborated" !
As if he agreed with Antoine de Caunes, who only liked the 2 first albums, and who dared to say this horrible statement: "the worse was the pompeous Love Over Gold" ! :( this is THE uber-album for me !
or maybe is he not found with his first compositons anymore. and, as an amateur composer myself, I can understand this : the music you composed 30 or 40 years ago can seems a little bit weak to you, even if millions people thinks teh contrary !
Well, the songs from the first two albums are wonderful, by today's standards just as by yesterday's standards.... Can't understand this... oh well.
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For On the night they recorded 29 shows, so Planet was surely included
WHAT ?? 29 shows ??
I thought only 7, the 4 in Rotterdam and the 3 in Nimes ??
To my knowledge none of these 7 shows included Planet nor Iron Hand, which is really a pity.
But if they recorded 29 shows, not only I can't understand why SOS/TR/TOL were not released, but also it is unbelievable that Planet and Iron Hand were not ! even Fade To Black !!!
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Guy has updated his diary from this event now...
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we already have OGWT,Chorus, BBC arena, Alchemy and Live Aid as official releases
Chorus as official release ? which one ? I want it as Sultans is my fav version from early days
the Lions + News combination was wonderful to experiment with music
I agree that this era was great, but Lions wasn't combined with news.
Lions was combined with Down to the waterline.
David Gilmour is similar to MK in generation, status and popularity
I don't think so.
I think that Floyd 'music had a far big more impact in music history, and therefore Gilmour's popularity cn't be compared to Mark'sone.
And the other difference is that when people go to a Gilmour gig, they are sure to have the classic Floyd tunes, which is not the case with Mark/DS tunes
Portobello Belle that he used to play not so long ago ('96)
it was even part of the 2001 Munich soundcheck
Yes, Mark once said that "maybe Lions" was the only one of the first albums that he still likes/thinks is relevant
never heard about this.
I read thought, taht he could'nt listen to the first 2 albums anymore, but I tought it was in terms of production, not in terms of writing.
It's interesting his statement about Lions, because it's the only song not composed before the album recording.
the floyd may have had a lasting impact, and would they release a live dvd of either a wall, wish you were here or animals show, it would go through the roof. but gilmour solo is actually far less succesfull then knopfler.
both in tour success and records sold. not to confuse the two things.
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For On the night they recorded 29 shows, so Planet was surely included
WHAT ?? 29 shows ??
I thought only 7, the 4 in Rotterdam and the 3 in Nimes ??
To my knowledge none of these 7 shows included Planet nor Iron Hand, which is really a pity.
But if they recorded 29 shows, not only I can't understand why SOS/TR/TOL were not released, but also it is unbelievable that Planet and Iron Hand were not ! even Fade To Black !!!
The Paris shows were recorded too, but not used in the end so PONO would have been in there - at least 2 known versions!
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we'll see ;)
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For On the night they recorded 29 shows, so Planet was surely included
WHAT ?? 29 shows ??
I thought only 7, the 4 in Rotterdam and the 3 in Nimes ??
To my knowledge none of these 7 shows included Planet nor Iron Hand, which is really a pity.
But if they recorded 29 shows, not only I can't understand why SOS/TR/TOL were not released, but also it is unbelievable that Planet and Iron Hand were not ! even Fade To Black !!!
The Paris shows were recorded too, but not used in the end so PONO would have been in there - at least 2 known versions!
What a waste...
Mark wants us to believe than none of the 29 versions of SOS, of the 14/15 versions of TR and TOL, and of the few versions of PONO and IH, deserved to end on a CD/DVD ? they were all bad ??
Could there be any contractual agreement saying "don't compete with Alchemy" ? but Alchemy was already amortized after 9 years... unbelievable...
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I guess Mark wasn't that interested in releasing a live album, it was more of a contractual thing.
The good new is that Mercury has plently of material available in the safe.
The bad news is that I have not the key to unlock them :disbelief.
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Guy has updated his diary from this event now...
I can't see any audience. Is it a "live" recording without public, or was the pic taken during soundcheck ?
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Guy has updated his diary from this event now...
I can't see any audience. Is it a "live" recording without public, or was the pic taken during soundcheck ?
A live without public ?
I have found a name for the live album: "Live at Pompeii" :D
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Guy has updated his diary from this event now...
I can't see any audience. Is it a "live" recording without public, or was the pic taken during soundcheck ?
A live without public ?
I have found a name for the live album: "Live at Pompeii" :D
some chorus recording were without public
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Some 200 in the audience, according to mikel
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Guy has updated his diary from this event now...
I can't see any audience. Is it a "live" recording without public, or was the pic taken during soundcheck ?
Guy's pics are from the soundchecks. There were 200 people in the audience.
No info at all about date of broadcast or If its for a dvd or not...
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Guy has updated his diary from this event now...
I can't see any audience. Is it a "live" recording without public, or was the pic taken during soundcheck ?
Guy's pics are from the soundchecks. There were 200 people in the audience.
No info at all about date of broadcast or If its for a dvd or not...
Well, both Guy and John just said later in the year??? But maybe a DVD too like ANIL?
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From the diary of RB:
"Thursday the 23rd, technically a day off, was spent on the sound stage of BBC's television facility in Maidstone taping what will be an hour long concert performance by Mark & Co. in front of an audience of 600. TV... hurry up, wait, camera blocking, sound checking, start, stop, tea break, more blocking, etc. We spent most of the day doing just that and by the time the audience was in and we began I was knackered. Part of doing this for a living is simply soldiering on which we did and it was fine. We drove back to London and that was the day."
So the concert will be cut for the broadcast then. I think we all know the songs that'll be cut, don't we.
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From the diary of RB:
"Thursday the 23rd, technically a day off, was spent on the sound stage of BBC's television facility in Maidstone taping what will be an hour long concert performance by Mark & Co. in front of an audience of 600. TV... hurry up, wait, camera blocking, sound checking, start, stop, tea break, more blocking, etc. We spent most of the day doing just that and by the time the audience was in and we began I was knackered. Part of doing this for a living is simply soldiering on which we did and it was fine. We drove back to London and that was the day."
So the concert will be cut for the broadcast then. I think we all know the songs that'll be cut, don't we.
dmg, are you saying that I can go and f*** myself if I want another version than Alchemy of TR on video ? :(
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It was more or less clear that the broadcast would be one hour, if there is no a dvd of it, looks like the other hour will be lost...
I guess Marble, telegraph and speedway will be the sacrified, as they are the longest songs, and Going home will be the last one for sure.
Would they cut any of the shorts as well?
Is there any other broadcasts, later the premiere, with more songs? I saw in youtube some 75 minutes shows from that BBC four sessions.
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From the diary of RB:
"Thursday the 23rd, technically a day off, was spent on the sound stage of BBC's television facility in Maidstone taping what will be an hour long concert performance by Mark & Co. in front of an audience of 600. TV... hurry up, wait, camera blocking, sound checking, start, stop, tea break, more blocking, etc. We spent most of the day doing just that and by the time the audience was in and we began I was knackered. Part of doing this for a living is simply soldiering on which we did and it was fine. We drove back to London and that was the day."
So the concert will be cut for the broadcast then. I think we all know the songs that'll be cut, don't we.
dmg, are you saying that I can go and f*** myself if I want another version than Alchemy of TR on video ? :(
I think anything with the remotest hint of a guitar in it will be cut! :'(
The bonus is they will probably cut Marbletown too.
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From the diary of RB:
"Thursday the 23rd, technically a day off, was spent on the sound stage of BBC's television facility in Maidstone taping what will be an hour long concert performance by Mark & Co. in front of an audience of 600. TV... hurry up, wait, camera blocking, sound checking, start, stop, tea break, more blocking, etc. We spent most of the day doing just that and by the time the audience was in and we began I was knackered. Part of doing this for a living is simply soldiering on which we did and it was fine. We drove back to London and that was the day."
So the concert will be cut for the broadcast then. I think we all know the songs that'll be cut, don't we.
dmg, are you saying that I can go and f*** myself if I want another version than Alchemy of TR on video ? :(
I think anything with the remotest hint of a guitar in it will be cut! :'(
The bonus is they will probably cut Marbletown too.
Maybe not on the DVD, if such a thing is planned ? ANIL is way longer than 1 hour after all, even without SOS and MFN ?
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From the diary of RB:
"Thursday the 23rd, technically a day off, was spent on the sound stage of BBC's television facility in Maidstone taping what will be an hour long concert performance by Mark & Co. in front of an audience of 600. TV... hurry up, wait, camera blocking, sound checking, start, stop, tea break, more blocking, etc. We spent most of the day doing just that and by the time the audience was in and we began I was knackered. Part of doing this for a living is simply soldiering on which we did and it was fine. We drove back to London and that was the day."
So the concert will be cut for the broadcast then. I think we all know the songs that'll be cut, don't we.
dmg, are you saying that I can go and f*** myself if I want another version than Alchemy of TR on video ? :(
I think anything with the remotest hint of a guitar in it will be cut! :'(
The bonus is they will probably cut Marbletown too.
Maybe not on the DVD, if such a thing is planned ? ANIL is way longer than 1 hour after all, even without SOS and MFN ?
What are the chances of the whole concert being performed without any mistakes though? I mean a literally perfect one that they would want to be released for all eternity... :think
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From the diary of RB:
"Thursday the 23rd, technically a day off, was spent on the sound stage of BBC's television facility in Maidstone taping what will be an hour long concert performance by Mark & Co. in front of an audience of 600. TV... hurry up, wait, camera blocking, sound checking, start, stop, tea break, more blocking, etc. We spent most of the day doing just that and by the time the audience was in and we began I was knackered. Part of doing this for a living is simply soldiering on which we did and it was fine. We drove back to London and that was the day."
So the concert will be cut for the broadcast then. I think we all know the songs that'll be cut, don't we.
dmg, are you saying that I can go and f*** myself if I want another version than Alchemy of TR on video ? :(
I think anything with the remotest hint of a guitar in it will be cut! :'(
The bonus is they will probably cut Marbletown too.
Maybe not on the DVD, if such a thing is planned ? ANIL is way longer than 1 hour after all, even without SOS and MFN ?
What are the chances of the whole concert being performed without any mistakes though? I mean a literally perfect one that they would want to be released for all eternity... :think
Quote from Guy's diary page:
Some interesting tuning issues meant that we stopped a couple of tunes midway, something that a) we would never normally do during a concert and b) has never happened before. Pre-recorded TV allows this luxury and Mark decided to use this. This of course meant there was more chit-chat than usual, in fact, there was loads. All in all it was a fun, relaxed show
Seems they made it as perfect as possible !
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anyone knows full set list? ???
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anyone knows full set list? ???
Yes please ???!
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anyone knows full set list? ???
1. What it is
2. Corned Beef City
3. Privateering
4. Father & Son
5. Hillfarmer's Blues
6. Back to Tupelo
7. Kingdom of Gold
8. Romeo & Juliet
9. Song for Sonny Liston
10. I used to Could
11. Gator Blood
12. Haul Away
13. Marbletown
14. Telegraph Road
15. Speedway at Nazareth
16. Going Home
Source: page 5 and 6 of this topic ;)
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Now that the tour has ended, and looking how the setlists went until the last show, I have to say that this is a truly great setlist, if we are lucky to have this show fully broadcasted.
Its still not clear if its for the BBC4 sessions or Late at Jools but, any of our British pals kno when the schedule for both programmes are announced? I was searching the bbc sites and looks like the season for such programmes starts between september or october, but I
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Indeed a great setlist! Hope for a full broadcast or DVD...
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Nice set but hard to see it being broadcast in full. Still, with the BBC not having any ad breaks and the concert being 2 hours long, maybe a "special" would be feasible. :think
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That shows have any usual schedule? I mean, they have normal seasons starting in this or that date?
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Usually pretty random, will probably be a Mark Knopfler night on a Friday with the new concert, life in songs and the hour long interview... and the concert will probably be an hour. :(
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Usually pretty random, will probably be a Mark Knopfler night on a Friday with the new concert, life in songs and the hour long interview... and the concert will probably be an hour. :(
Is BBC4 in HD?
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Usually pretty random, will probably be a Mark Knopfler night on a Friday with the new concert, life in songs and the hour long interview... and the concert will probably be an hour. :(
Is BBC4 in HD?
I think it is, but I doubt its really HD because it shares a digital multiplex with kids channel cbbabies (or something like that), the kids channel use the multiplex until 19.00 and after 19.00 its BBC Four
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Four (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Four)
There is a nice software called "FilmOn" that has app for Windows, IOS, Android and Iphone that allows you to watch most of the British Tv channels no matter where you are, but in SD quality unless you pay a subscription, then you go for HD. Its very good, I watched the last MK interview with it, and last sunday I watched the Community Shield too.
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Usually pretty random, will probably be a Mark Knopfler night on a Friday with the new concert, life in songs and the hour long interview... and the concert will probably be an hour. :(
Is BBC4 in HD?
Remarkably I don't think it is available in HD. It's only BBC1 and 2 that are available in HD.
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Correct.
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Later with Jools new season has started, and thanks to the wonderful "filmon" app I watched the two firsts episodes. I doubt very much that Mark Knopfler will appear at least in a standard programme.
Sting was featured on the two firsts episodes, I dont know yet if he would be on a third. The stage is quite the same than the one in MK pictures but there is a difference, there are at least 5 different stages at the same time, and there are one group in which one. While one group or singer is playing, the other ones are on his stage waiting, while Kings of Leon were playing, for instance, you can see Sting watching them from his own stage. Jools is introducing one band, and then the next etc etc. Looks like they record some bands in a row and then they do separate programmes.
If MK is gonna be on Jools, it has to be a special programme, unless Jools do the trick and goes from one band to MK recording and its so well edited that nobody notices it.
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Later with Jools new season has started, and thanks to the wonderful "filmon" app I watched the two firsts episodes. I doubt very much that Mark Knopfler will appear at least in a standard programme.
Sting was featured on the two firsts episodes, I dont know yet if he would be on a third. The stage is quite the same than the one in MK pictures but there is a difference, there are at least 5 different stages at the same time, and there are one group in which one. While one group or singer is playing, the other ones are on his stage waiting, while Kings of Leon were playing, for instance, you can see Sting watching them from his own stage. Jools is introducing one band, and then the next etc etc. Looks like they record some bands in a row and then they do separate programmes.
If MK is gonna be on Jools, it has to be a special programme, unless Jools do the trick and goes from one band to MK recording and its so well edited that nobody notices it.
The latest "Later with Jools Holland" is the usual/normal setup for the programme and has been broadcast in the same way since the programme began. I don't think for one minute that this will be the programme that MK will appear on. It is much more likely to be the normal BBC4 Sessions setup, concentrating on one artist eg Richard Thompson recently. The "A Night in London" programme was a Jools Holland Special.
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Can only see a 'special' being aired - hopefully sometime soon!!!
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It will be one of these
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006tt53/episodes/guide
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waiting this great concert, I think about jools holland, a great piano player, that in his programme had the possibility to entertain all the best musician of the world, an example: jools on the stage with bbking & dave gilmour.....a very lucky man
straitsway75
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If I remember well MK&Co played a whole set, I dont think they did that to have only 2 or 3 songs broadcasted in the end...
This also is a cheap and easy way (for MK and GF) to produce a DVD from this tour with Christmas around the corner....
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I cannot say I am very keen on this BBC4 stuff. Being recorded in a studio (without audience?) interrupted several times and fumbled together is not what I expect from a live DVD, especially not with such a furious tour in mind at such lovely venues... would have been hard to choose which of all those beautiful venues (including the coming US ones!!!) would give the best possible setting for a Live Blu-ray.. instead of that - nothing!
I never liked "A Night In London" because of Mark being so tired/weary/stoned/whatever, and just listen to the last few shows let it be St. Julien, Padova etc. to hear would COULD have been possible - great audience reactions included.
Another opportunity missed.
LE
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I cannot say I am very keen on this BBC4 stuff. Being recorded in a studio (without audience?) interrupted several times and fumbled together is not what I expect from a live DVD, especially not with such a furious tour in mind at such lovely venues... would have been hard to choose which of all those beautiful venues (including the coming US ones!!!) would give the best possible setting for a Live Blu-ray.. instead of that - nothing!
I never liked "A Night In London" because of Mark being so tired/weary/stoned/whatever, and just listen to the last few shows let it be St. Julien, Padova etc. to hear would COULD have been possible - great audience reactions included.
Another opportunity missed.
LE
Totally agree with you here. The Night in London DVD isn't great and the audience is very small and bored looking. Audience interaction, I think is very important; part of the reason the shows in southern Europe are always so good!
There was an audience for this show though. In fact, I'm sure an AMITer was there!
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I cannot say I am very keen on this BBC4 stuff. Being recorded in a studio (without audience?) interrupted several times and fumbled together is not what I expect from a live DVD, especially not with such a furious tour in mind at such lovely venues... would have been hard to choose which of all those beautiful venues (including the coming US ones!!!) would give the best possible setting for a Live Blu-ray.. instead of that - nothing!
I never liked "A Night In London" because of Mark being so tired/weary/stoned/whatever, and just listen to the last few shows let it be St. Julien, Padova etc. to hear would COULD have been possible - great audience reactions included.
Another opportunity missed.
LE
Yes, there was an audience - about 250 I think, but I agree that with all of the amazing shows on the tour, it was a missed opportunity! Also I always find MK a bit nervous in small venues with TV cameras around him - he always plays much better and is more relaxed on tour, in front of a few thousand fans! :)
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ok, thanks I missed that. But I also cannot imagine an audience being excited and loud, when they always stop playing as Guy mentioned... at the end, there was one of those TV-people giving them signs when to clap!!
LE
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at the end, there was one of those TV-people giving them signs when to clap!!
LE
Yes, I remember that happening at Hay-on-Sky! Nothing is spontaneous at these televised shows!
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at the end, there was one of those TV-people giving them signs when to clap!!
LE
Yes, I remember that happening at Hay-on-Sky! Nothing is spontaneous at these televised shows!
:lol
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Anyone knows what happened to these session? Did they ever get showed or has anybody asked Guy about it??
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Anyone knows what happened to these session? Did they ever get showed or has anybody asked Guy about it??
Probably sitting beside the Madrid 2001 DVD tapes.
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That meaning that it was nixed by MK I guess? Kind of amazing considering this was probably a BBC produced (and taped) recording and that it was publically known that it went down.
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Anyone knows what happened to these session? Did they ever get showed or has anybody asked Guy about it??
Guy has been asked about it a few times. His last reply was: "No. As I mentioned on this forum a few weeks ago, it will not be broadcast...neither will it be released on DVD."
I guess we will never know why not.
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Presumably filmed at cost to the British tv license payer (ie me).
And yet MK lets every show be released on mp3, complete with mistakes, and sub-par promo shows with part time musicians? Utterly bizarre.
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It COULD be successful - and therefore it could work against his plan to stay LOOOW profile... ::)
LE
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It COULD be successful - and therefore it could work against his plan to stay LOOOW profile... ::)
LE
Doubt it. All the famous "crowd pullers" would be missing as they weren't part of the standard set.
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Anyone knows what happened to these session? Did they ever get showed or has anybody asked Guy about it??
Guy has been asked about it a few times. His last reply was: "No. As I mentioned on this forum a few weeks ago, it will not be broadcast...neither will it be released on DVD."
I guess we will never know why not.
I actually got in touch with the BBC in early November this year to enquire as to when this would be aired. The response I got was:
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Thanks for getting in touch about the 2013 recording of a Mark Knopfler session.
We
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Very interesting, I hope it get aired anytime...