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Title: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on January 13, 2014, 12:48:14 PM
The usual "Coming soon" site:

http://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/index.php/diary/2014_MK_Recording (http://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/index.php/diary/2014_MK_Recording)

That old feeling that something good is coming  :)
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Post by: rudiger on January 13, 2014, 12:50:50 PM
Great news!  :clap
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Post by: jbaent on January 13, 2014, 01:03:23 PM
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Post by: superval99 on January 13, 2014, 01:16:46 PM
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Post by: jbaent on January 13, 2014, 01:18:52 PM
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Post by: Jarle on January 13, 2014, 05:04:40 PM
Finally! Everything starts all over - once again :)
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Post by: Justme on January 13, 2014, 05:18:36 PM
Yeaaah!  ;D ;D ;D

Thanks, Guy  :wave
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Post by: Silvertown on January 13, 2014, 05:19:25 PM
WE love the whole cycle: recording, rehearsing and touring :)

Let
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Post by: Justme on January 13, 2014, 05:27:03 PM
I suppose it won't happen in a million years, but I'd like some raw uncut soundclips.
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Post by: dmg on January 13, 2014, 05:30:30 PM
WE love the whole cycle: recording, rehearsing and touring :)

Let
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Post by: Knopflerfan on January 13, 2014, 05:37:14 PM
My word, reality is soon about to set in!! I like a lot of you am really looking forward to that first diary entry....... Tension is certainly mounting! :)
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Post by: jbaent on January 13, 2014, 05:55:43 PM
WE love the whole cycle: recording, rehearsing and touring :)

Let
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Post by: Knopflerfan on January 13, 2014, 06:02:48 PM
Het JB, I totally agree that London Pride is excellent.

Colin (The other half of 'Superval') will agree with me that 'London Pride' bought from the 'Stanhope Arms' before an MK 'RAH' Gig is even better! ;)
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Post by: superval99 on January 13, 2014, 06:06:30 PM
Het JB, I totally agree that London Pride is excellent.

Colin (The other half of 'Superval') will agree with me that 'London Pride' bought from the 'Stanhope Arms' before an MK 'RAH' Gig is even better! ;)

He agrees wholeheartedly!     :lol
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Post by: Knopflerfan on January 13, 2014, 06:10:02 PM
Het JB, I totally agree that London Pride is excellent.

Colin (The other half of 'Superval') will agree with me that 'London Pride' bought from the 'Stanhope Arms' before an MK 'RAH' Gig is even better! ;)

He agrees wholeheartedly!     :lol

Here's to 2015 when we can both resume at the Stanhope! Espeically as I will be 40 next January too!!!!
Hope you are both well? ;)
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Post by: superval99 on January 13, 2014, 06:14:29 PM
Het JB, I totally agree that London Pride is excellent.

Colin (The other half of 'Superval') will agree with me that 'London Pride' bought from the 'Stanhope Arms' before an MK 'RAH' Gig is even better! ;)

He agrees wholeheartedly!     :lol

Here's to 2015 when we can both resume at the Stanhope! Hope you are both well? ;)

Can't wait!   :)   btw We need a beer-drinking smilie on AMIT!    ;D
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Post by: Knopflerfan on January 13, 2014, 06:16:57 PM
And a Strat playing Smiley too!! ;D
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Post by: Silvertown on January 13, 2014, 06:56:52 PM
Something is happening on the Diary page...
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Post by: CarrionSpy on January 13, 2014, 07:05:49 PM
"Waiting content" is being removed! Maybe we will have the first pictures very soon!!!!
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Post by: Silvertown on January 13, 2014, 07:06:54 PM
"Waiting content" is being removed! Maybe we will have the first pictures very soon!!!!

Live set list? Anyone?
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Post by: CarrionSpy on January 13, 2014, 07:08:04 PM
"Waiting content" is being removed! Maybe we will have the first pictures very soon!!!!

Live set list? Anyone?

Live Picture List!  8)
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Post by: Justme on January 13, 2014, 07:16:36 PM
MKtexture.jpg

Great start!
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Post by: Dear Old Thing on January 13, 2014, 07:45:26 PM
Cool!

LE (hell why not)
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Post by: jbaent on January 13, 2014, 07:53:44 PM
MKtexture.jpg

Great start!

Looks like from the Privateering van, pretty nice!
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Post by: dmg on January 13, 2014, 08:22:59 PM
Just got an advance copy of the entry from Guy and he says that Mark has promised neither he nor the band shall frequent the local during the recording sessions.  During the last month he has had the plumbers in at BG and they have fixed the taps with a direct feed to the London Pride brewery! ;D
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Post by: dustyvalentino on January 13, 2014, 08:36:19 PM
Geez,  didn't realise the temperance society were on the case!

The Beatles, Hendrix, Floyd et al were making some of the greatest music ever while high on mind altering drugs,  but DMG objects to a few pints in the evening!  :)
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Post by: dmg on January 13, 2014, 10:06:54 PM
Geez,  didn't realise the temperance society were on the case!

The Beatles, Hendrix, Floyd et al were making some of the greatest music ever while high on mind altering drugs,  but DMG objects to a few pints in the evening!  :)

Maybe they should ditch LP for LSD then!  Geez, don't be a square! 8)
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Post by: Pottel on January 13, 2014, 10:16:33 PM
wrong dusty. xcept for Syd, the floyd were mostly sober.
shit man, i read that title of this thread, rushed over to the diary only to be hugely dissapointed...
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Post by: superval99 on January 14, 2014, 11:32:17 AM
Hurry up Guy, the natives are getting restless!    :)
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Post by: jbaent on January 14, 2014, 12:55:02 PM
Hurry up Guy, the natives are getting restless!    :)

 :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Post by: dmg on January 14, 2014, 01:21:32 PM
I wouldn't get too excited, the first entry is likely to look something like this:

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Post by: jbaent on January 14, 2014, 02:28:00 PM
I hope so, Chuck Ainlay
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Post by: LoveExpresso on January 14, 2014, 07:31:06 PM
Well if the result will be another album like the calibre of Get Lucky or Privateering, I grant them their daily draught!

LE
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Post by: JeroenvG on January 15, 2014, 01:28:19 PM
Still no entry in the diary.

* They must be very busy to complete the album before the february release followed by a tour starting in march. *dreaming mode off*
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Post by: Fletch on January 15, 2014, 01:45:47 PM
Still no entry in the diary.

* They must be very busy to complete the album before the february release followed by a tour starting in march. *dreaming mode off*

Nah, Mark has been promoting the vinyl re-issues, saying " I know there's no extra tracks on these albums, but I'm very excited to finally feel my old records weigh 180g"
:)
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Post by: jbaent on January 15, 2014, 01:46:37 PM
Still no entry in the diary.

* They must be very busy to complete the album before the february release followed by a tour starting in march. *dreaming mode off*

Nah, Mark has been promoting the vinyl re-issues, saying " I know there's no extra tracks on these albums, but I'm very excited to finally feel my old records weigh 180g"
:)

LOL
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Post by: jbaent on January 15, 2014, 01:51:17 PM
Still no entry in the diary.

* They must be very busy to complete the album before the february release followed by a tour starting in march. *dreaming mode off*

Actually I still have hopes based on that we know nothing, that the band is coming soon to complete the recordings. The very little we know is MK is working with Guy alone from last months of 2013, with a little break on november for the US dates, and Guy had been quite silent in his forum during that period, what suggest they were working very hard.

My guess (and wish) is that they were working very hard because they want to have the songs shaped to start recording with the band soon, and follow the usual MK schedule (recording january/february, releasing september, promoting the record and selling tickets october/november, touring from march/april next year until july/august)

Actually is more my wish than my guess LOL
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Post by: Silvertown on January 15, 2014, 01:59:20 PM
Still no entry in the diary.

* They must be very busy to complete the album before the february release followed by a tour starting in march. *dreaming mode off*

Actually I still have hopes based on that we know nothing, that the band is coming soon to complete the recordings. The very little we know is MK is working with Guy alone from last months of 2013, with a little break on november for the US dates, and Guy had been quite silent in his forum during that period, what suggest they were working very hard.

My guess (and wish) is that they were working very hard because they want to have the songs shaped to start recording with the band soon, and follow the usual MK schedule (recording january/february, releasing september, promoting the record and selling tickets october/november, touring from march/april next year until july/august)

Actually is more my wish than my guess LOL

That we truly wish! But sometimes it
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on January 15, 2014, 02:26:07 PM
Mk mentioned that he has around 50 songs in his laptop ready to work on them, I think it was in Bridport...
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Post by: dmg on January 15, 2014, 02:41:56 PM
Mk mentioned that he has around 50 songs in his laptop ready to work on them, I think it was in Bridport...

Doesn't mean any of them are any good!  To be serious, we don't know how many he usually writes before deciding to discard some of them for an album.  It probably won't be a number but rather an amount measured in quality instead. 

Sometimes I wish Privateering had been a single CD album as there are a lot of skippers for me and songs not up to his standards.  I'd rather the new album be a single CD of high quality songs and doubt very much it'll be a double again even with 50 songs.
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Post by: surferboy on January 15, 2014, 03:51:20 PM
dmg, one might get the idea you got of Privateering as just a single CD with just the highlights, but!!! What if he left out the good ones and not the skippers... and the good ones get lost in the vaults... Think of that. This is what drives me crazy when thinking of not releasing a double CD! He was in the "Blues Mood" for most of the recording sessions, so it could easily have been that he released a Blues CD. And for me most of the Blues tracks are among the weaker ones....

On another note: Did anyone else think that the long preparing time in the studio with just Mark and Guy and with no diary entry could mean that they work on a solo MK accoustic album? Or is this idea too far fetched?
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Post by: ingridswing on January 15, 2014, 05:22:02 PM
On another note: Did anyone else think that the long preparing time in the studio with just Mark and Guy and with no diary entry could mean that they work on a solo MK accoustic album? Or is this idea too far fetched?

Don't think so. It's just the way it works. This time it's separated in 3 parts: september, november and now. So I expect some musicians flying in within'a couple of months.
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Post by: holaknopfler on January 15, 2014, 05:44:30 PM
On another note: Did anyone else think that the long preparing time in the studio with just Mark and Guy and with no diary entry could mean that they work on a solo MK accoustic album? Or is this idea too far fetched?

Don't think so. It's just the way it works. This time it's separated in 3 parts: september, november and now. So I expect some musicians flying in within'a couple of months.

I think Guy said one time that MK was not very keen on making a acoustic solo album..
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Post by: tunnel85 on January 15, 2014, 09:17:56 PM
Well, it sounds good to me.  8)
8 months to wait then 7 months to make plans.
The next show is almost there  ;D
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Post by: Lis on January 16, 2014, 06:00:23 AM
No Skippers for me on Privateering.   :D  For me, it's beautiful -- I just wish he would have added the bonus songs, especially Follow the Ribbon...
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Post by: superval99 on January 16, 2014, 08:29:54 AM
No Skippers for me on Privateering.   :D  For me, it's beautiful -- I just wish he would have added the bonus songs, especially Follow the Ribbon...

Same for me.  I listen from beginning to end, including the bonus songs.    :)
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Post by: tunnel85 on January 16, 2014, 09:00:00 AM
No Skippers for me on Privateering.   :D  For me, it's beautiful -- I just wish he would have added the bonus songs, especially Follow the Ribbon...

Same for me.  I listen from beginning to end, including the bonus songs.    :)
NOT the same for me but I have to say the geat song/skipper ratio is good. ;)
Anyway, Mark please go ahead, whatever you do is great. We need the tour dates in september :wave
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Post by: jbaent on January 16, 2014, 10:31:49 AM
I would had splitted the record into the bluesy songs, and the rest, and it would had been perfect for me. Maybe the mix of songs is the problem.

The bonus songs are good to me too.
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Post by: ingridswing on January 16, 2014, 11:56:22 AM
No Skippers for me on Privateering.   :D  For me, it's beautiful -- I just wish he would have added the bonus songs, especially Follow the Ribbon...

Yes Lis! We are sisters now as well and the proof is the bonussong you picked ;-)
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Post by: dmg on January 16, 2014, 12:27:58 PM
Anyway, Mark please go ahead, whatever you do is great. We need the tour dates in september :wave

...and wouldn't it be good if they were all released at once for a change!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on January 16, 2014, 12:36:43 PM
Anyway, Mark please go ahead, whatever you do is great. We need the tour dates in september :wave

...and wouldn't it be good if they were all released at once for a change!

I think this is more and more unlikely, specially with the economical crisis in some of the European countries, more and more promoters wait to check how other countries sales are going, how many dates are being announced and some other promoters simply do their best to find financement, sometimes they do it sooner, sometimes later, sometimes some shows had to be cancelled or moved to other places...

The last Spanish tours had some dates that were moved from one city to another, and even in danger of being cancelled, but luckily the number of dates never changed thanks to a new promoter, that its doing his work really good.
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Post by: Knopflerfan on January 16, 2014, 12:57:17 PM
I have to add that I think Privateering is excellent and with this album Mark is really showing us what a songwriter he is as well as being a very special guitarist too. No skippers whatsoever on the album as all 20 + the additional tracks have all got their place. I actually thought Mark said he had around 80 songs on file so there is bound to be some beauties there!!

Please no, not an acoustic album -Admittedly Hank Marvin did an excellent Acoustic album (The Guitar Player) but it's certainly not my favourite.....

Must be some movement on Guy's page soon.....
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Post by: dmg on January 16, 2014, 01:53:06 PM
Anyway, Mark please go ahead, whatever you do is great. We need the tour dates in september :wave

...and wouldn't it be good if they were all released at once for a change!

I think this is more and more unlikely, specially with the economical crisis in some of the European countries, more and more promoters wait to check how other countries sales are going, how many dates are being announced and some other promoters simply do their best to find financement, sometimes they do it sooner, sometimes later, sometimes some shows had to be cancelled or moved to other places...

The last Spanish tours had some dates that were moved from one city to another, and even in danger of being cancelled, but luckily the number of dates never changed thanks to a new promoter, that its doing his work really good.

Alas, I think you are right but wouldn't it be good - especially for those planning lots of concerts.
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Post by: jbaent on January 16, 2014, 02:23:43 PM
Oh yes, it would be not good, perfect!

Last tour I wanted to attend the first show, but the first show was announced very after many batch of italian, british, german and other european dates were announced, so it was very difficul to know which one was the first date until all the dates were announced, and made the statment that that was all (that it wasnt, as another dutch and spanish date were announced later)
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Post by: Dutchessy on January 16, 2014, 03:21:06 PM
Oh, the tension ;)
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Post by: LoveExpresso on January 16, 2014, 03:21:51 PM
I bet there will be a pic with a lot of guitars!!!  ;D

LE
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Post by: nababo on January 16, 2014, 08:04:40 PM
The day I read this thread, I dreamt about the new album. In my dream, I listened to a song, and it was superb, a midtempo guitar-driven rock, like, let me see, "When it comes to you", not too country, though.

And I remembered, when I woke up, that I had a similar dream when I listened to "Calling Elvis" in advance of the album release, back in 1991. I even dreamt about the booklet artwork, which indeed was very similar to the final look. The font I dreamt about was courier new.

Nice to have the same feeling again, almost 23 years after.
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Post by: jbaent on January 16, 2014, 08:09:17 PM
The day I read this thread, I dreamt about the new album. In my dream, I listened to a song, and it was superb, a midtempo guitar-driven rock, like, let me see, "When it comes to you", not too country, though.

And I remembered, when I woke up, that I had a similar dream when I listened to "Calling Elvis" in advance of the album release, back in 1991. I even dreamt about the booklet artwork, which indeed was very similar to the final look. The font I dreamt about was courier new.

Nice to have the same feeling again, almost 23 years after.

From now on, tell us more about your dreams!!!!
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Post by: Pottel on January 17, 2014, 07:36:23 AM
true, the more songs, the merrier, i'd rather skip ten songs then having to miss out on a blind willie mctell like song that never made it to the record, coz the artist thinks differently from the way we think
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Post by: vgonis on January 17, 2014, 12:36:26 PM
And if no entries create such a ramble here, I can only imagine what would happen if he starts writing! Come on boys and girls. Behave, and go down to your local pub for a pint or two. Ask the DJ to play Kill to get Crimson album. It will sound new...
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Post by: dmg on January 17, 2014, 12:54:13 PM
true, the more songs, the merrier, i'd rather skip ten songs then having to miss out on a blind willie mctell like song that never made it to the record, coz the artist thinks differently from the way we think

Ah, but if you never knew it existed in the first place...  What you never had, you never miss.
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Post by: Pottel on January 17, 2014, 05:34:44 PM
problem is, guy always mentions them at some point
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Post by: dmg on January 17, 2014, 06:24:08 PM
problem is, guy always mentions them at some point

  :smack
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Post by: LoveExpresso on January 17, 2014, 08:02:06 PM
No idea how you all see it but I have the feeling that Guy seems somewhat annoyed that the recordings are progressing SO slow, at least I recall him making comments about that. Also it seems that first came his cook book, and the attempt to sell some more around christmas, then the Blues Club gig was more important... First diary entry was announced for November, don't forget...  ;D
Not that I really care that much about it, but I remember him being a little bit more enthusiastic about his recording diaries in the past...

LE
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Post by: dmg on January 17, 2014, 08:12:19 PM
No idea how you all see it but I have the feeling that Guy seems somewhat annoyed that the recordings are progressing SO slow, at least I recall him making comments about that. Also it seems that first came his cook book, and the attempt to sell some more around christmas, then the Blues Club gig was more important... First diary entry was announced for November, don't forget...  ;D
Not that I really care that much about it, but I remember him being a little bit more enthusiastic about his recording diaries in the past...

LE

You've given me a picture in my head now of Mark sitting down and playing his new tunes to Guy on an acoustic and Guy saying "nah, they're all rubbish" and Mark going off home in the huff!  Hence no recording diary! :lol
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Post by: jbaent on January 17, 2014, 09:16:27 PM
Dmg, you know Guy would never say something like that, but it was a nice picture to image  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Justme on January 17, 2014, 09:22:46 PM
No idea how you all see it but I have the feeling that Guy seems somewhat annoyed that the recordings are progressing SO slow, at least I recall him making comments about that. Also it seems that first came his cook book, and the attempt to sell some more around christmas, then the Blues Club gig was more important... First diary entry was announced for November, don't forget...  ;D
Not that I really care that much about it, but I remember him being a little bit more enthusiastic about his recording diaries in the past...

LE

You've given me a picture in my head now of Mark sitting down and playing his new tunes to Guy on an acoustic and Guy saying "nah, they're all rubbish" and Mark going off home in the huff!  Hence no recording diary! :lol


...so what more have you got? (MK quote)

 :D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on January 17, 2014, 09:24:34 PM
Dmg, you know Guy would never say something like that, but it was a nice picture to image  ;D ;D ;D

I think at this stage Guy is in between a rock and a hard place;  Mark wants an honest opinion but if Guy says they're rubbish he'll get his marching orders!  I suppose he'll have to give Mark a politicians "answer" to the ones he doesn't like! :lol
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on January 17, 2014, 10:03:28 PM
"that one was excellent. Let's see if it can get any better?" Something like that?  :)

LE
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Post by: Vesper on January 17, 2014, 10:06:00 PM
"that one was excellent. Let's see if it can get any better?" Something like that?  :)

LE

Haha! You got it! ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on January 17, 2014, 10:47:33 PM
"that one was excellent. Let's see if it can get any better?" Something like that?  :)

LE

Oh, spot on old bean! :thumbsup
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on January 17, 2014, 11:51:02 PM
Or maybe give the Greek politicians answer:" Only one more year of austerity" . I believe that we hardly know how they work now. MK probably brings demos (rhythm and lyrics)  and Guy tries some orchestration and if it works they patch up some licks left in the top shelf of the studio and some riffs left from sessions with others.  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on January 17, 2014, 11:55:49 PM
Or maybe give the Greek politicians answer:" Only one more year of austerity" . I believe that we hardly know how they work now. MK probably brings demos (rhythm and lyrics)  and Guy tries some orchestration and if it works they patch up some licks left in the top shelf of the studio and some riffs left from sessions with others.  ;D

With all this talk of austerity maybe it will be an acoustic album!
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Post by: Banjo99uk on January 18, 2014, 12:03:34 AM
Or maybe give the Greek politicians answer:" Only one more year of austerity" . I believe that we hardly know how they work now. MK probably brings demos (rhythm and lyrics)  and Guy tries some orchestration and if it works they patch up some licks left in the top shelf of the studio and some riffs left from sessions with others.  ;D

With all this talk of austerity maybe it will be an acoustic album!
with no drums
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on January 18, 2014, 12:05:40 AM
and no guitar!  Hey how about Richard Bennett producing? He did a great job with Steve Earle's Guitar town.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Lis on January 18, 2014, 05:56:48 AM
No Skippers for me on Privateering.   :D  For me, it's beautiful -- I just wish he would have added the bonus songs, especially Follow the Ribbon...

Yes Lis! We are sisters now as well and the proof is the bonussong you picked ;-)
:D  Agreed!!!
And I love Follow the Ribbon.  I believe perfection was once again achieved...  :clap
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: surferboy on January 18, 2014, 06:34:35 PM
John McC just tweeted his tour schedule with Mike McG. Till mid March this doesn't leave a stretch of two coherent weeks of possible recording time with MK. Somehow this troubles me a bit, because either the band recording starts very late compared to MK's ambitious start in the studio early last autumn or is it after all going into an acoustic direction? Is an autumn release date and therefore a 2015 tour in danger? What are your thoughts on this piece of news?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on January 18, 2014, 07:06:02 PM
Here's John's list:


http://www.johnmccusker.co.uk/

I am going to three of his dates, TS at Liverpool on 4th Feb then Bury on 8th and Saltaire on 7th March.

There is a gap in his schedule after 8th March until his tour with Heidi Talbot in April.


 
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on January 18, 2014, 07:15:50 PM
John McC just tweeted his tour schedule with Mike McG. Till mid March this doesn't leave a stretch of two coherent weeks of possible recording time with MK. Somehow this troubles me a bit, because either the band recording starts very late compared to MK's ambitious start in the studio early last autumn or is it after all going into an acoustic direction? Is an autumn release date and therefore a 2015 tour in danger? What are your thoughts on this piece of news?

Mark has recorded an album without John and Mike before.  Can't remember when but I'm sure he has at some point in the past!

Seriously, they could always record their little bit later and then mix it in.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on January 18, 2014, 07:20:42 PM
The next album may not be folky, so they may not be needed, but as dmg said, their parts could be mixed in later.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on January 18, 2014, 09:30:21 PM
Although, together with Phil Cunningham, they are such a splendid folk section that they are used as "live" as possible.. Border Reiver, Before Gas & TV, Kingdom Of Gold.. all pretty sure recorded at a full session, not overdubbed later I am pretty sure...

One or two folk tunes would be enough for me. I guess we never will get a "pure" MK album that offers only one style, one direction. His albums are always a summary of all his usual styles..

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: holaknopfler on January 18, 2014, 10:54:35 PM
Let's hope for a less folky album this time.. I like his folk stuff, but not too much of it:-)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on January 18, 2014, 11:19:08 PM
Let's hope for a less folky album this time.. I like his folk stuff, but not too much of it:-)

+1
Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Pottel on January 18, 2014, 11:27:15 PM
also means that, even if we would be allowed to dream, no tour could start this year before 29.04.2014, his last show with his wife.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on January 18, 2014, 11:48:39 PM
also means that, even if we would be allowed to dream, no tour could start this year before 29.04.2014, his last show with his wife.

what do you mean Pottel?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Banjo99uk on January 19, 2014, 12:05:42 AM
Let's hope for a less folky album this time.. I like his folk stuff, but not too much of it:-)

+1
Fingers crossed!
I also hope for a new direction without the folkies. He peaked on Get Lucky with that. Before Gas and Clyde are 2 of his most wonderful tunes for me, but enough is enough.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 19, 2014, 08:55:34 AM
Perhaps a mixed bag again would suffice - something for everyone! ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Silvertown on January 19, 2014, 09:34:19 AM
Although, together with Phil Cunningham, they are such a splendid folk section that they are used as "live" as possible.. Border Reiver, Before Gas & TV, Kingdom Of Gold.. all pretty sure recorded at a full session, not overdubbed later I am pretty sure...

One or two folk tunes would be enough for me. I guess we never will get a "pure" MK album that offers only one style, one direction. His albums are always a summary of all his usual styles..

LE

I bet that folky stuff is played live together but added to the band mix. I mean that there is already drums, bass, guitars and keyboards recorded and then the folk section adds their part.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on January 19, 2014, 10:15:11 AM
also means that, even if we would be allowed to dream, no tour could start this year before 29.04.2014, his last show with his wife.

what do you mean Pottel?

McCusker is touring with his wife and has no time for Mark's tour befor 29.04., Dutchessy.
I guess Pottel means that he secretly (same as me) dreams that the reason for the long silence on Guy's site is that the album is almost ready and will be released this spring (like ATRR) and could bring a tour already starting THIS April, not next year... but these are only dreams, because pre-sale should have started long since...  :D ;D

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: 3Strats on January 19, 2014, 10:34:09 AM
Let's hope for a less folky album this time.. I like his folk stuff, but not too much of it:-)

I'd rather have the folky stuff ( HFB /YTC etc) than another heavily blues flavoured album. Marks best "blues" tracks are things like One World or I think I Love You Too Much. I didn't enjoy the "rootsy" blues on Privateering so much.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Pottel on January 19, 2014, 10:55:43 AM
also means that, even if we would be allowed to dream, no tour could start this year before 29.04.2014, his last show with his wife.

what do you mean Pottel?

McCusker is touring with his wife and has no time for Mark's tour befor 29.04., Dutchessy.
I guess Pottel means that he secretly (same as me) dreams that the reason for the long silence on Guy's site is that the album is almost ready and will be released this spring (like ATRR) and could bring a tour already starting THIS April, not next year... but these are only dreams, because pre-sale should have started long since...  :D ;D

LE
yesssssssirrrrrreeeee
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: sak4 on January 19, 2014, 05:59:41 PM
Here's John's list:


http://www.johnmccusker.co.uk/

I am going to three of his dates, TS at Liverpool on 4th Feb then Bury on 8th and Saltaire on 7th March.

There is a gap in his schedule after 8th March until his tour with Heidi Talbot in April.

Thanks for the website Val, I took a look and saw the gig at Cambridge and booked tix.

Sally
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on January 19, 2014, 06:57:46 PM
I watched the new year show at Hogmanay and John and Mike were there with Phil and Aly too (of course ;D).  Then, later on I was surprised to see Heidi Talbot come on accompanied by the band!  Unfortunately, I didn't rate her voice at all and neither did anyone else who was watching/listening.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on January 19, 2014, 07:24:06 PM
I watched the new year show at Hogmanay and John and Mike were there with Phil and Aly too (of course ;D).  Then, later on I was surprised to see Heidi Talbot come on accompanied by the band!  Unfortunately, I didn't rate her voice at all and neither did anyone else who was watching/listening.

Her voice is much too high and piercing for my taste - sorry.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on January 19, 2014, 08:09:53 PM
I watched the new year show at Hogmanay and John and Mike were there with Phil and Aly too (of course ;D).  Then, later on I was surprised to see Heidi Talbot come on accompanied by the band!  Unfortunately, I didn't rate her voice at all and neither did anyone else who was watching/listening.

Her voice is much too high and piercing for my taste - sorry.

Indeed.  The band though were excellent, especially Phil and Aly who are Hogmanay staples!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on January 19, 2014, 09:41:37 PM
No news yet - It seems Guy has still one or two (hundred) cook books in stock...  ::)

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: CarrionSpy on January 20, 2014, 03:08:38 PM
Guy has just answered some questions in his forum. So no acoustic album as he mentioned Strats, Telecasters, Les Paul and other electric guitars as well as acoustics. He is talking also about a collaboration in BG studios  :hmm I wonder if this is for the new MK album or another project. I suppose he will soon upload the first diary page.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Silvertown on January 20, 2014, 04:24:32 PM
Guy has just answered some questions in his forum. So no acoustic album as he mentioned Strats, Telecasters, Les Paul and other electric guitars as well as acoustics. He is talking also about a collaboration in BG studios  :hmm I wonder if this is for the new MK album or another project. I suppose he will soon upload the first diary page.

Collaboration sounds like that MK is playing for someone else
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 20, 2014, 05:15:33 PM
How about a guest on MK's new album then?
Incidentally I know Joe Bonamassa is in a studio recording a new album right now... No that's me dreaming again!!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Silvertown on January 20, 2014, 05:18:40 PM
How about a guest on MK's new album then?
Incidentally I know Joe Bonamassa is in a studio recording a new album right now... No that's me dreaming again!!

I am not sure, but collaboration does not sound like guest appearance on MK
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: ingridswing on January 20, 2014, 06:19:51 PM
How about a guest on MK's new album then?
Incidentally I know Joe Bonamassa is in a studio recording a new album right now... No that's me dreaming again!!

I am not sure, but collaboration does not sound like guest appearance on MK
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Pottel on January 20, 2014, 08:57:08 PM
How about a guest on MK's new album then?
Incidentally I know Joe Bonamassa is in a studio recording a new album right now... No that's me dreaming again!!
dude, forget little bonamassa, GILMOUR IS RECORDING TOO!!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on January 20, 2014, 10:30:57 PM
How about a guest on MK's new album then?
Incidentally I know Joe Bonamassa is in a studio recording a new album right now... No that's me dreaming again!!
dude, forget little bonamassa, GILMOUR IS RECORDING TOO!!

And Gilmour recorded at British Grove before
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on January 20, 2014, 10:36:43 PM
Honestly? I would love to have a "proper" MK album, without another guitar giant.. Mark guesting on David's album on one or two tracks would be great though.

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 20, 2014, 11:19:26 PM
dudes,
'little Joe'?? v 'Old fart' Gilmour!!

Like it or not but Bonamassa is the new Gilmour!
I will admit that I was very reserved about Joe but after seeing him 'Live' last year and watched/listened in depth to his material I have to say I'm hooked (and Mandy too). Therefore dare I say it but my Gilmour collection is well.and truly collecting dust!

Dont knock quality mr Pottel ;)

Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on January 20, 2014, 11:23:09 PM
Honestly? I would love to have a "proper" MK album, without another guitar giant..

LE

+1

Remember on Privateering when Kim Wilson was invited to play we had an over indulgence of mouth organ on all the blues numbers taking over from any possibility of Knopfler guitar solos.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 20, 2014, 11:26:04 PM
How about a guest on MK's new album then?
Incidentally I know Joe Bonamassa is in a studio recording a new album right now... No that's me dreaming again!!
dude, forget little bonamassa, GILMOUR IS RECORDING TOO!!

'Little Bonamassa' - lol
Gilmour is recording! - and??
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on January 20, 2014, 11:37:10 PM
I have booked myself to my studio as well. Now make the connection if you dare!  :smack
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dustyvalentino on January 20, 2014, 11:59:00 PM
Joe is surely the new Clapton,  not the new Gilmour. :)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 21, 2014, 08:03:29 AM
Joe is surely the new Clapton,  not the new Gilmour. :)

Maybe so and partly agree, but if you listen to Joe's playing and certainly at times there are some phrases in his playing when I think you can hear a bit of Gilmour??

Go listen and tell me what you think.....
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dustyvalentino on January 21, 2014, 08:11:17 AM
I watched a gig from the Albert Hall recently and I was impressed,  which surprised me as normally I get bored with the repetitiveness of the hlues. But I didn't really see the Gilmour connection.

Joe himself seems like a cool guy and posts regularly over at the Les Paul forum.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 21, 2014, 11:48:00 AM
Oh well it must be us, only we can hear Gilmour through both Joe's sound and certain licks he plays!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on January 21, 2014, 12:03:10 PM
Honestly? I would love to have a "proper" MK album, without another guitar giant..

LE

+1

Remember on Privateering when Kim Wilson was invited to play we had an over indulgence of mouth organ on all the blues numbers taking over from any possibility of Knopfler guitar solos.

I loved Kim Wilson's harmonica on Privateering and if MK made another blues album I would like Kim to join the band on tour.  At the moment though I'm just looking forward to hearing something completely different on the new album.   :)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: ds1984 on January 21, 2014, 10:56:45 PM
Joe is surely the new Clapton,  not the new Gilmour. :)

There is no new Clapton - there's only one God!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on January 21, 2014, 11:06:33 PM
And who might that be? Cause Clapton has lost its deity status in the late 70ies...  :lol
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 21, 2014, 11:19:20 PM
Thank the lord there is no new Crapton - one's bad enough! Thank goodness we have Joe as a young, enthusiastic alternative who is already a guitar god at the age of only 36!!
Poor Crapton looked lost when he and Joe played 'Further on up the road' at the RAH (2009) I don't reckon he'd seen/heard a guitar played so fast!! ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on January 21, 2014, 11:26:46 PM
Old slowhand Clapton has given us at least half a dozen classic unsurpassed records (most of them within a band) and at least as many good solid solo ones to go down the rock ages. He is the ABC of rock, so even though I don't like his latest playing and records, he is to be treated with respect. Let's hope Joe makes as many classic records (his output is stunning as volume) although the vast competition and way of the music business is not very helpful anymore.   
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 21, 2014, 11:34:11 PM
Certainly a tough old world out there for a guitarist these days but if its any indication, Joe is like MK busy recording then he is getting ready for a world tour. Joe it seems never stops! and I guess thats how you have to be to get noticed.
Mind you judging from the platinum sales of 'tour de force' he is getting noticed alright!!

anyway the thread has sidetracked somewhat so shall we start another thread for some serious bonamassa talk! on the general discussion?
Title: Guy's 'MK' - Recording Diary 1st entry - 21st Jan 2014
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 21, 2014, 11:51:40 PM
As the original thread has been totally flooded with chat I wondered about keeping this particular 'new' thread for all the updates to go on as and when they appear and the other one for use for discussion about it?

Anyway the first entry is just about to be unveiled...... :clap :clap :clap :clap

http://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/index.php/diary/2014_MK_Recording

Pottel or someone with authority - could you sticky this please....
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on January 22, 2014, 12:03:44 AM
Before you open it, which of Joe's albums are great to start with? Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated, since I don't have any of his records, only song here and there and what I have seen in youtube.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 22, 2014, 12:13:19 AM
Before you open it, which of Joe's albums are great to start with? Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated, since I don't have any of his records, only song here and there and what I have seen in youtube.

Well for a start you can download 'Dislocated boy' Live for free from Joe's homepage.
Personally I started with the 'RAH' 2009 Live album and then subsequently purchased all the studio/Live albums and boy are they good!
Maybe start with the studio albums 'Dustbowl' & 'Driving towards the daylight' to get an idea of where Joe is at!
)
The other albums in Joe's catalogue are:

Solo studio albums
A New Day Yesterday (2000)
So, It's Like That (2002)
Blues Deluxe (2003)
Had to Cry Today (2004)
You & Me (2006)
Sloe Gin (2007)
The Ballad of John Henry (2009)
Black Rock (2010)
Dust Bowl (2011) - Ruddy excellent!
Driving Towards the Daylight (2012) - Superb!

Live Albums
A New Day Yesterday Live (2002)
Shepherds Bush Empire (2007)
Live from Nowhere in Particular (2008)
Live from the Royal Albert Hall (2009)
Beacon Theatre: Live from New York (2012)
An Acoustic Evening at The Vienna Opera House (2013)

Give Joe a fair go - you might just enjoy him. Mind you to see him Live is another matter!!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on January 22, 2014, 12:27:47 AM
Thank you so much for the detailed list! So his latest albums are the best? Wow, this is a rare case. Usually the raw, genuine, unique sound of each artist comes in his first albums. I will get back to you once I get them and listen to them. Thank you once again!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 22, 2014, 12:31:31 AM
Thank you so much for the detailed list! So his latest albums are the best? Wow, this is a rare case. Usually the raw, genuine, unique sound of each artist comes in his first albums. I will get back to you once I get them and listen to them. Thank you once again!

I have just found that the early albums are fine I was just thinking of introducing you to the material he is playing right now because it is mindblowing. By the way a JB thread has been started on 'General Discussion'

Try the Live album's as they are seriously good - check out the licks from the Gibson Bonamassa Gold top!
Title: Re: Guy's 'MK' - Recording Diary 1st entry - 21st Jan 2014
Post by: LoveExpresso on January 22, 2014, 08:10:40 AM
Or better clean up the Diary thread and put the Bonamassa posts together.. although commenting on every single diary entry also could be a solution..

There has always been chat more or less but it is obviously been captured by the Bonnamassa fraction heavily. ;D

Looking forward to a really great and BIG first entry after all those months waiting, Mr. Fletcher...

LE
Title: Re: Guy's 'MK' - Recording Diary 1st entry - 21st Jan 2014
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 22, 2014, 08:34:43 AM
Or better clean up the Diary thread and put the Bonamassa posts together.. although commenting on every single diary entry also could be a solution..

There has always been chat more or less but it is obviously been captured by the Bonnamassa fraction heavily. ;D

Looking forward to a really great and BIG first entry after all those months waiting, Mr. Fletcher...

LE

Nowt wrong with talking about JB - LE but of course in the right thread!! ;)
Title: Re: Guy's 'MK' - Recording Diary 1st entry - 21st Jan 2014
Post by: jbaent on January 22, 2014, 10:31:41 AM
I'd merge this with the other thread and expect that the Jb conversations remains in the Jb threads (there are two at least) but it never works, LOL  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on January 22, 2014, 11:20:48 AM
Please, May I ask you if you kindly move to the two Joe Bonamassa's thread to talk about him, and talk here about the 2014 diary?

A new thread about this topic was opened because this one has changed into JB, so now I am gonna merge both topics, so please, go to JB threads to talk about him, it doesn't matter to mention about him here, but lets try to focus.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 22, 2014, 11:29:57 AM
Please, May I ask you if you kindly move to the two Joe Bonamassa's thread to talk about him, and talk here about the 2014 diary?

A new thread about this topic was opened because this one has changed into JB, so now I am gonna merge both topics, so please, go to JB threads to talk about him, it doesn't matter to mention about him here, but lets try to focus.

Sorry Sir and actually totally agree!! Onto more important issues and the unveiling (soon) of the new MK Recording diaries!!!!! :wave
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on January 22, 2014, 11:43:17 AM
The fact that the first diary entry has the today date makes me feel even more nervous about it  ;D

The delay posting that first entry was always a good sign for me, as i thought it might be because they were working really hard, and now, knowing the big amount and variety of guitars used, and that some guestS were at British Grove as well, yet to know if for MK record or for anothers artists, makes it even more exciting.

Im gonna add new names for the colaborations. David Crosby and Graham Nash. MK recorded guitar for one of the new Crosby songs, and we know that Crosby and Nash are recording with Gilmour, so, my guess is the connection could be there. Crosby goes to MK studio to met him in person and thank him for his nice playing, and ended singing backing vocals for MK  ;D

Its another chance  ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on January 22, 2014, 11:48:33 AM
The fact that the first diary entry has the today date makes me feel even more nervous about it  ;D

The delay posting that first entry was always a good sign for me, as i thought it might be because they were working really hard, and now, knowing the big amount and variety of guitars used, and that some guestS were at British Grove as well, yet to know if for MK record or for anothers artists, makes it even more exciting.

Im gonna add new names for the colaborations. David Crosby and Graham Nash. MK recorded guitar for one of the new Crosby songs, and we know that Crosby and Nash are recording with Gilmour, so, my guess is the connection could be there. Crosby goes to MK studio to met him in person and thank him for his nice playing, and ended singing backing vocals for MK  ;D

Its another chance  ;)

Yeah, the Crosby/Nash thing could definitely be a goer IMO;  a favour in return for playing on mine.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 22, 2014, 11:53:34 AM
Yep I'll go with that too - Gilmour too I wonder?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on January 22, 2014, 12:54:53 PM
Yep I'll go with that too - Gilmour too I wonder?

I wish but, apparently Mark and David are already friends, as It was mentioned by someone that MK got to know some speakers in Gilmours studio and bought some for British Grove, and Gilmour recorded parts of "on an island" at MK's studio, but they never did anything on each others records...

I really wish Gilmour and Knopfler do something together on their records, so lets see what happens  ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on January 22, 2014, 01:01:32 PM
Also another thing comes to mind...

What if MK is doing another "crimson"... I mean, like in that record, doing all guitars by himself, craft the biggest part of the song just himself and Guy, and then call Ian and Glenn to finish the songs, and the Macs and other guests to add details here and there...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: cannibals on January 23, 2014, 12:45:10 PM
Also another thing comes to mind...

What if MK is doing another "crimson"... I mean, like in that record, doing all guitars by himself, craft the biggest part of the song just himself and Guy, and then call Ian and Glenn to finish the songs, and the Macs and other guests to add details here and there...

I hope not.. Not my favorite the KTGC album.......
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 23, 2014, 01:39:38 PM
I agree although there are some decent tracks on there but alas a few 'skippers', but I presume jbaent was meaning in the sense of how that particular album was put together...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on January 23, 2014, 01:51:13 PM
I agree although there are some decent tracks on there but alas a few 'skippers', but I presume jbaent was meaning in the sense of how that particular album was put together...

Yes, thats what I meant.

Anyway, I really love the Crimson record, its probably the one that I listen the most. In my humble opinion is very underrated, even by MK himself, many nice tracks there, being "Heart full of holes" one of my favourites.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: foma on January 23, 2014, 06:43:37 PM
I'd like to point out that I recently discover two cool facts about Kill To Get Crimson:
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on January 24, 2014, 07:34:58 PM
it takes toooo loooong, boooooooringggggggg :think
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on January 24, 2014, 07:40:26 PM
it takes toooo loooong, boooooooringggggggg :think

yes, but in the other hand... they are working hard, so, lets be positive  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on January 24, 2014, 07:42:39 PM
I somehow expect something ... unexpected  :lol  .. maybe the album is already near completion and will indeed be released earlier than usual..

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on January 24, 2014, 07:42:58 PM
it takes toooo loooong, boooooooringggggggg :think

yes, but in the other hand... they are working hard, so, lets be positive  ;D

 :D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on January 24, 2014, 07:44:09 PM
I somehow expect something ... unexpected  :lol  .. maybe the album is already near completion and will indeed be released earlier than usual..

LE

Guy said the progress was slow, or something similair... Sounds not very promising :-\
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on January 24, 2014, 07:50:54 PM
I somehow expect something ... unexpected  :lol  .. maybe the album is already near completion and will indeed be released earlier than usual..

LE

Guy said the progress was slow, or something similair... Sounds not very promising :-\

Yes, and as far as we know, its just Guy and MK right now...

I also expect, like LE, something unexpected, like Guy telling the band will be in London in one week to finish the record... I wish!  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Silvertown on January 24, 2014, 07:58:16 PM

Yes, and as far as we know, its just Guy and MK right now...

I also expect, like LE, something unexpected, like Guy telling the band will be in London in one week to finish the record... I wish!  ;D

Yes we can wish. But I think that this can take even months.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on January 24, 2014, 09:03:45 PM
I somehow expect something ... unexpected  :lol  .. maybe the album is already near completion and will indeed be released earlier than usual..

LE

Guy said the progress was slow, or something similair... Sounds not very promising :-\

I don't really see why;  maybe more songs are being rejected so we get the cream of the crop on the album this time.  Or perhaps they are trying harder to achieve perfection or more complicated arrangements.  Personally I think this sounds good - I wouldn't want a record rushed out in a week like the Twisting EP back in '83.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on January 24, 2014, 09:23:53 PM
Maybe we will get an album with 8 tracks - each 7 to 9 minutes long with extended guitar solo and storming build-up final a new diary entry this weekend...  :-X

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Justme on January 25, 2014, 12:37:01 PM
Maybe we will get an album with 8 tracks - each 7 to 9 minutes long with extended guitar solo and storming build-up final a new diary entry this weekend...  :-X

LE

Pigs can fly.  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: surferboy on January 25, 2014, 01:00:56 PM
The waiting is killing me
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Silvertown on January 25, 2014, 01:20:35 PM
And how great it is that we can get these studio diaries! We are so used to them that it would be cruel to wait an album to be released without previous diaries! Thanks Guy but hurry on :)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Pottel on January 25, 2014, 05:55:20 PM
I agree although there are some decent tracks on there but alas a few 'skippers', but I presume jbaent was meaning in the sense of how that particular album was put together...

Yes, thats what I meant.

Anyway, I really love the Crimson record, its probably the one that I listen the most. In my humble opinion is very underrated, even by MK himself, many nice tracks there, being "Heart full of holes" one of my favourites.
Qu
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on January 25, 2014, 06:31:10 PM
And how great it is that we can get these studio diaries! We are so used to them that it would be cruel to wait an album to be released without previous diaries! Thanks Guy but hurry on :)

I wonder, and I'm not sure about the response...

sometimes I think that it was great, 30 years, ago when you heard a record for the first time, without any info about it, only a discovering...
I remember the 1st time I heard the STP album. i had never heard any single before, a very few info about it, and.... WII, STP, Baloney.... wow !!!! I remember it very well ! I was blown away

after that, all albums had their recording diaries and discussions on the forum, so during the first listen, we already knew some infos about songs, had some clues about overall musical style, sometimes there were "wrong" clues....


Guy's diaries are fun, but sometimes it can gives you some hopes that never happens, and sometimes it spoils some surprises that could have been more fun at the first listen, if we didn't knew them IMHO

just my 2 cents
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on January 26, 2014, 06:19:14 PM
Oh who needs a new "Studio" diary anyway, now that we have, much more important, a new link to the "Native Roses (support us on kick starter)"

Seriously, could it be possible that Guy enjoys this thread and is trying to fool us?  :hmm

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on January 26, 2014, 07:41:03 PM
The entry - when it does eventually come - is now bound to be a big disappointment to all of us! ::) ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Pottel on January 26, 2014, 09:04:21 PM
as in, seriously, just take away that 2014 recording diary link. it is a constant let down.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on January 26, 2014, 10:00:48 PM
as in, seriously, just take away that 2014 recording diary link. it is a constant let down.

 :thumbsup :clap
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on January 27, 2014, 10:24:05 AM
Guy has changed the date of the entry to today, or is it something that changes automatically
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: holaknopfler on January 27, 2014, 10:25:33 AM
It changes automatically, I've been following it for a few days now
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on January 27, 2014, 10:48:05 AM
It changes automatically, I've been following it for a few days now

Naughty, naughty Guy  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Vesper on January 28, 2014, 12:53:08 PM
Just found this on the John Mayer forum (http://johnmayer.yuku.com/topic/13652/the-random-JMc-thread-part-IV?page=85#.UueYv7TvLIU):

 So, this singer shared this photo on her instagram, I think she is one of Eric Clapton's back up singers, she mentioned that she was in the studio singing for eric clapton, willie nelson, john mayer, mark knofler.

image

Great day in the studio singing for #ericclapton #willienelson #johnmayer #markknofler also hung out with #wba #footballer #jonasolsson all in a days work #blessed
http://ink361.com/app/photo/ig-635615010489327920_304697007

But, dissapointing, this link is down :(
The last picture does look like British Groove doesn't it?

Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: ingridswing on January 28, 2014, 12:58:20 PM
Great how we can comment 11 pages about a non-existing diary
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on January 28, 2014, 01:27:47 PM
Great how we can comment 11 pages about a non-existing diary

 :lol

Incredible! :disbelief
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on January 28, 2014, 02:21:07 PM
only 4 in my reader! But I had the exact same reaction some posts back Ingrid!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Silvertown on January 28, 2014, 02:29:26 PM
It has to be JJ Cale tribute album...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on January 28, 2014, 02:41:08 PM
It has to be JJ Cale tribute album...

That would be very nice indeed, but let's hope it's "as well as" not "instead of" the next MK album!    ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: CarrionSpy on January 28, 2014, 02:46:47 PM
It has to be JJ Cale tribute album...

That would be very nice indeed, but let's hope it's "as well as" not "instead of" the next MK album!    ;)

I really hope the same!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on January 28, 2014, 02:54:06 PM
So that would be the colaborations Guy was talking about?

Looks like all that artists recorded whatever it was at British Grove.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on January 28, 2014, 07:31:05 PM
Oh who needs a new "Studio" diary anyway, now that we have, much more important, a new link to the "Native Roses (support us on kick starter)"

Seriously, could it be possible that Guy enjoys this thread and is trying to fool us?  :hmm

LE

I suggest to send Guy mails telling "We are NOT supporting The Native Roses until you upload a satisfactory diary entry"

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Jarle on January 28, 2014, 07:58:27 PM
Just found this on the John Mayer forum (http://johnmayer.yuku.com/topic/13652/the-random-JMc-thread-part-IV?page=85#.UueYv7TvLIU):

 So, this singer shared this photo on her instagram, I think she is one of Eric Clapton's back up singers, she mentioned that she was in the studio singing for eric clapton, willie nelson, john mayer, mark knofler.

image

Great day in the studio singing for #ericclapton #willienelson #johnmayer #markknofler also hung out with #wba #footballer #jonasolsson all in a days work #blessed
http://ink361.com/app/photo/ig-635615010489327920_304697007

But, dissapointing, this link is down :(
The last picture does look like British Groove doesn't it?

Certainly the photos are from British Grove, at least the last one. So Clapton has probably been their newly...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on January 30, 2014, 09:33:49 PM
Forum update!

Still no diary:

The diary will appear when the content is up to my high standards and presently, it is not. I'm sure you'll agree it'll be worth the wait.


 :'( :-\
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Throttle on January 31, 2014, 12:24:54 AM
:'( :-\

Don't cry, Dutchessy, the above-mentioned person intends to stall for time until gets the go-ahead.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: yontwocrows on January 31, 2014, 08:41:37 PM
According to this short facebook-post: Chuck Ainlay was in the studio a few weeks ago and has already pre-worked with Mark.
https://www.facebook.com/soundmasterling/posts/10151936718474021?stream_ref=10 (https://www.facebook.com/soundmasterling/posts/10151936718474021?stream_ref=10)
- sorry for misinformation
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on January 31, 2014, 09:06:36 PM
According to this short facebook-post: Chuck Ainlay was in the studio a few weeks ago and has already pre-worked with Mark.
https://www.facebook.com/soundmasterling/posts/10151936718474021?stream_ref=10 (https://www.facebook.com/soundmasterling/posts/10151936718474021?stream_ref=10)

the original post is from april 2012... so privateering album sessions
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: yontwocrows on January 31, 2014, 11:02:32 PM
oh no, i'm so stupid! thought i checked it, but it was the date of the like. sorry for misinformation!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: yontwocrows on February 07, 2014, 01:19:25 PM
Got PN from Guy: the from you beloved high standards are allowing now a detailled preview - only for amitters - of the MK Recording Diary

Here it is:

2014 recording with Mark Knopfler

8th February 2014
9th February 2014
10th February 2014
11th February 2014
12th February 2014
...
27th February 2014
28th February 2014
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 07, 2014, 01:26:44 PM
I wonder what that dates means, as far as we know they are recording since fall 2013...

I
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: yontwocrows on February 07, 2014, 01:37:31 PM
Sorry, jbaent, i was only sarcastic. no pn from guy, had to share my diary reading experience for the last months in ironic manner. :-\
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 07, 2014, 02:30:32 PM
Sorry, jbaent, i was only sarcastic. no pn from guy, had to share my diary reading experience for the last months in ironic manner. :-\

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: cannibals on February 09, 2014, 10:01:10 PM
And still no diary. he is been talking about one since early december  :clap
I like what Guy is doing with his site/forum, don't get me wrong here but talking about a diary and than keep us waiting for more than 2 months.
what is the point of doing that?????
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on February 10, 2014, 12:04:26 AM
And still no diary. he is been talking about one since early december  :clap
I like what Guy is doing with his site/forum, don't get me wrong here but talking about a diary and than keep us waiting for more than 2 months.
what is the point of doing that?????

I think he's had a bet with Ianto that we can keep this thread going until March with daily comments about his diary without him updating it! :lol
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on February 10, 2014, 07:44:45 AM
Or maybe there is some serious trouble between them - maybe Mark and Guy are split up - or have some artistic disagreements. I hope not. But this is so unusual for Guy.... If he is not allowed to put the diary page online, he could have taken away the announcement, couldn't he?  :think

Plus he isn't updating his forum at all at the moment. I sent him a (provoking) question about a possible release date last week or so, still no answer, also no other questions were answered. I am sure there are many!

I don't want to get worked up but this is really strange indeed. A small line: "sorry folks, no diary this time, too much work to do!" would do it for us.

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on February 10, 2014, 08:50:38 AM
Maybe he is so busy that he doesn't have time even for this little post.
Or maybe it is sort of a marketing trick.
Or we are in for a big surprise.
Or, he has better things to do, like drinking coffee!  ;)

Yesterday I was listening to Miracle, the MK produced Willy De Ville album. One song in particular, was reminiscent of Industrial disease. Southern politician.
http://youtu.be/5AWa0qqRTo8
And there is one co-write with MK!

And yes I am trying to change the subject.   ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 10, 2014, 12:30:05 PM
Vgonis, dont change the subject, and open a new thread for Miracle record, you naughty  ;D

And what Guy drinks is Tea  :lol
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 10, 2014, 12:32:44 PM
And still no diary. he is been talking about one since early december  :clap
I like what Guy is doing with his site/forum, don't get me wrong here but talking about a diary and than keep us waiting for more than 2 months.
what is the point of doing that?????

I think he's had a bet with Ianto that we can keep this thread going until March with daily comments about his diary without him updating it! :lol

And if Ianto loses, he will have to play with one stick on both nose holes and with one hand tied on his back the whole concert...

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: cannibals on February 10, 2014, 04:58:53 PM
He has updated his forum today but i think we will not see a diary anytime soon....... ::)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: foma on February 10, 2014, 05:11:08 PM
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on February 10, 2014, 07:19:51 PM
Maybe they get extra enjoyment from our comments! Really, I think it is only fan to write here. I rarely read Guy's diary anyway. Who has so much time to follow all these after a certain age anyway. :'(
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Lis on February 12, 2014, 03:56:44 AM
Just found this on the John Mayer forum (http://johnmayer.yuku.com/topic/13652/the-random-JMc-thread-part-IV?page=85#.UueYv7TvLIU):

 So, this singer shared this photo on her instagram, I think she is one of Eric Clapton's back up singers, she mentioned that she was in the studio singing for eric clapton, willie nelson, john mayer, mark knofler.

image

Great day in the studio singing for #ericclapton #willienelson #johnmayer #markknofler also hung out with #wba #footballer #jonasolsson all in a days work #blessed
http://ink361.com/app/photo/ig-635615010489327920_304697007

But, dissapointing, this link is down :(
The last picture does look like British Groove doesn't it?

Bringing this post back to life...  any chance this is the collaboration Guy mentioned...  or was this already refuted? 
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Fletch on February 12, 2014, 08:48:33 AM
I really think Guy is an internet addict (opposite to Mark) who delights in teasing and playing the 'look what I did today' thing. The forum proves his addictive personality, I find it strange that him and Mark have such a close relationship.
I bet Guy reads every thread on AMIT !

But then again, I'm probably wrong about everything.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 12, 2014, 03:50:05 PM
Just found this on the John Mayer forum (http://johnmayer.yuku.com/topic/13652/the-random-JMc-thread-part-IV?page=85#.UueYv7TvLIU):

 So, this singer shared this photo on her instagram, I think she is one of Eric Clapton's back up singers, she mentioned that she was in the studio singing for eric clapton, willie nelson, john mayer, mark knofler.

image

Great day in the studio singing for #ericclapton #willienelson #johnmayer #markknofler also hung out with #wba #footballer #jonasolsson all in a days work #blessed
http://ink361.com/app/photo/ig-635615010489327920_304697007

But, dissapointing, this link is down :(
The last picture does look like British Groove doesn't it?

Bringing this post back to life...  any chance this is the collaboration Guy mentioned...  or was this already refuted?

Guy said that it wasn
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Throttle on February 12, 2014, 04:48:46 PM
Who dares to ask Guy?

:-P

Ps: I did   ;D

Yep, beware of him who has nothing to lose  8)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 12, 2014, 10:14:38 PM
I follow Willie Nelson on Facebook and he seems to have been touring North America non stop recently.

Is there a Clapton forum where they might know what he's been up to?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: shangri la 1 on February 12, 2014, 11:22:19 PM
Is there a Clapton forum where they might know what he's been up to?

http://www.whereseric.com/  ;)

He's heading back to Japan this month. He's done this trip fairly regularly over the years. Then a few dates though Asia, Middle East, USA, then back to your neck of the woods mid-year :-


18.Feb.14 Tokyo // JP Nippon Budokan
20.Feb.14 Tokyo // JP Nippon Budokan
21.Feb.14 Tokyo // JP Nippon Budokan
23.Feb.14 Yokohama // JP Yokohama Arena
25.Feb.14 Nagoya // JP Aichi Prefectural Gymnasium
26.Feb.14 Osaka // JP Osaka-Jo Hall
28.Feb.14 Tokyo // JP Nippon Budokan
2.Mar.14 Muang Thong Thani, Bangkok // TH Impact Arena
4.Mar.14 Singapore // SG Singapore Indoor Stadium
6.Mar.14 Dubai // AE Dubai Media City Amphitheatre
8.Mar.14 Muharraq // BH Arad Fort
27.Apr.14 New Orleans, Louisiana // US New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival
30.Apr.14 Memphis, Tennessee // US Mud Island Amphitheatre
21.Jun.14 Glasgow // GB The SSE Hydro
22.Jun.14 Leeds // GB First Direct Arena
24.Jun.14 Mannheim // DE SAP Arena
26.Jun.14 Vienna // AT Wiener Stadthalle
28.Jun.14 Oswiecim // PL MOSiR Stadium


Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: tunnel85 on February 13, 2014, 07:02:50 AM
Very disturbing to see how Clapton gets stuck to the same places again and again. 
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on February 13, 2014, 10:23:59 AM
Very disturbing to see how Clapton gets stuck to the same places again and again.
yes agree, why doesn't he come in lyon ? :'(
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 13, 2014, 11:04:33 AM
I follow Willie Nelson on Facebook and he seems to have been touring North America non stop recently.

Is there a Clapton forum where they might know what he's been up to?

The tweet from Clapton's singer is from January 19th.

Is it possible that Nelson has a son with same name that also plays?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: yontwocrows on February 15, 2014, 06:02:19 PM
There are similar gaps in the touring plans of EC (7 Mar - 27 Apr), John McCusker (9 Mar - 8 Apr), Willie Nelson (10 Mar - 27 Mar). Coincidence?  :think
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Pottel on February 15, 2014, 10:05:55 PM
now that would be an interesting combination?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: cannibals on February 15, 2014, 10:08:07 PM
Guy Always says tours are planned almost 1 year before they really take off......
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: surferboy on February 17, 2014, 09:32:15 AM
As I confess to beeing a real "MK-get-a-lifer" and as I can't wait for some substantial news from BG, here is my summary of the inbetween the lines info of Guy's answers:
About five months back from now on September 20th Guy confirmed being back in BG with Mark.
Never before has pre-production-work taken so extremly long, even if you take away the mini-US-tour, the Christmas break and the "distractions".
My first possible explanation of a MK solo accoustic recording with the help of Guy has become rather unlikely since Guy mentioned that Mark uses various electric guitars.
So why the long time with just the two of them? Maybe they prepare more than one project? A full MK recording and a film soundtrack or something similar (dream, dream little boy)?
As Guy said that the collaboration is more a guest appearance, the idea of another proper duet album like the one with Emily is also unlikely, but that would have been a good explanation for the long and killing secrecy on Guy's side which will last half a year in mid March!!!
Finally there are hints that their time in the studio will continue for quite some time: band members are touring in the spring, there has been only "a little discussion" about guest musicians and they "are not thinking that far ahead" as concerns an album release time frame. And if I am not mistaken, the recording of previous albums always had at least two seperate recording sessions with band members.

For me it all comes down to the nagging question: does this as of now already endanger a 2015 MK tour, given Marks traditional schedule of realease in September and tour in Spring or am I worrying tooooo much?

Your thoughts on this are highly appreciated!!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 17, 2014, 12:11:04 PM
If we think in the usual MK schedule, the band might be now or next month if we expect a release in September and tour next year, but that looks unlikely with the info Guy gave us...

Maybe touring next year could be still possible, it happened with Emmylou cd that they release the cd and went on tour in two months or so, but with MK solo releases things always went different.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on February 17, 2014, 12:19:48 PM
If we think in the usual MK schedule, the band might be now or next month if we expect a release in September and tour next year, but that looks unlikely with the info Guy gave us...

Maybe touring next year could be still possible, it happened with Emmylou cd that they release the cd and went on tour in two months or so, but with MK solo releases things always went different.

Golden Heart was released in Spring 1996 and toured soon afterwards.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 17, 2014, 12:35:12 PM
If we think in the usual MK schedule, the band might be now or next month if we expect a release in September and tour next year, but that looks unlikely with the info Guy gave us...

Maybe touring next year could be still possible, it happened with Emmylou cd that they release the cd and went on tour in two months or so, but with MK solo releases things always went different.

Golden Heart was released in Spring 1996 and toured soon afterwards.

Thats before the usual MK schedule, that started with STP, since then, with the only exception of the Emmylou records, the schedule was always

- release in september
- promo in autumm
- tour starting spring next year, until summer

However, I always thought that they took too much time after finishing recording and releasing. I know that when the recording is finished, they have to compile, add overdubs, mastering, designing the cover, booklet, work on distributions etc for the release date... but, would ut be possible that the band comes in spring this year and release the cd in september this year?

I dont really know how all those works take, but if they were releasing in septemer because its the time that it takes... I dont expect a release this year, at least in september...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on February 17, 2014, 03:03:07 PM
Mark was talking astonshingly open about his "60-song-book" with a lot of unreleased material. I was suprised about him mentioning that - together with his Privateering-interviews where he said that it was double just because of pure inspiration, we might expect a 3-CD-Box, or another double, and the long work in the studio might just be a result of MANY songs being recorded right now...  ::)

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 17, 2014, 03:34:05 PM
Maybe he is not recording a new cd... Maybe its just shaping into real songs some of that 60 songs from his laptop, for, lets say, the future  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Robson on February 17, 2014, 04:27:27 PM
GF: We are in Studio 2, 'experimenting' with Mark's songs whilst recording.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Pottel on February 17, 2014, 08:04:57 PM
dude, a 3cd? i would soooooooooooo buy it. this discussion went on elsewhere, and i stick to my opinion, the more the merrier. i'd rather have 10 bad songs more then miss out on one new Long Highway (did this on purpose, for my good friend dmg)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on February 17, 2014, 08:07:28 PM
GF: We are in Studio 2, 'experimenting' with Mark's songs whilst recording.

GF: I AM working on GF 3 this week and it's all sounding good after a long hiatus.

So thery are busy... but he has time to work on his solo projects also?  :hmm
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on February 20, 2014, 08:00:51 AM
I want a 4track release

telegraph tunnel planet sultans from on the night

I can pay any sum

everyone has his holy grail

mine would be the whole communique album in demo version (like WDYYG on MFN comp)

it does exist, as it's explained in the Oldfield book :
all songs, except Communique composed at Nassau, had been recorded as demos in London (I guess around octobre-november 78) and as they were very impressive, Beckett used to joke about them : "you already done the album in one take, we just have to do it again"
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on February 20, 2014, 12:39:13 PM
I want a 4track release

telegraph tunnel planet sultans from on the night

I can pay any sum

everyone has his holy grail

mine would be the whole communique album in demo version (like WDYYG on MFN comp)

it does exist, as it's explained in the Oldfield book :
all songs, except Communique composed at Nassau, had been recorded as demos in London (I guess around octobre-november 78) and as they were very impressive, Beckett used to joke about them : "you already done the album in one take, we just have to do it again"

Well, the band did play songs like SHS and OUATITW on tour in 1978 so they would probably sound something along the lines of these arrangements.  I think LW was played too, also slightly differently.  Oh, and FMH at a faster pace from one show (can't recall right now).  I reckon these demos would probably have these early arrangements.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on February 20, 2014, 02:03:36 PM
Well, the band did play songs like SHS and OUATITW on tour in 1978 so they would probably sound something along the lines of these arrangements.  I think LW was played too, also slightly differently.  Oh, and FMH at a faster pace from one show (can't recall right now).  I reckon these demos would probably have these early arrangements.

 FMH : Amsterdam Paradisio 23/10/1978

yes agree about arrangements.

we have all songs from the first album (except Lions) in demo version, so I find it would be great to have also the communique album (and well all albums... ;D)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 20, 2014, 04:42:23 PM
I want a 4track release

telegraph tunnel planet sultans from on the night

I can pay any sum

everyone has his holy grail

mine would be the whole communique album in demo version (like WDYYG on MFN comp)

it does exist, as it's explained in the Oldfield book :
all songs, except Communique composed at Nassau, had been recorded as demos in London (I guess around octobre-november 78) and as they were very impressive, Beckett used to joke about them : "you already done the album in one take, we just have to do it again"

Everything exist on demos, before they get to the studio to record the album, they have demos made before.

Mk and Guy are recording demos right now, when the band, or other musicians come to complete the songs, they are the record.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Tally on February 20, 2014, 05:38:00 PM
It would be interesting to hear demos of songs that got complex arrangements in the studio, like Ride across the river and such songs.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Banjo99uk on February 20, 2014, 06:34:17 PM
we know what Behind with the rent sounded like before the whole band came in and then it completely changed.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on February 20, 2014, 06:40:49 PM

Everything exist on demos, before they get to the studio to record the album, they have demos made before.

Mk and Guy are recording demos right now, when the band, or other musicians come to complete the songs, they are the record.

I think that in the case of Lions and Communique (the song), it's not sure that a demo recording exists

in both cases, the song was composed and written in the studio, during the album recording. So they rehearsed it, tried few things and then recorded it directly I believe.
It's a litlle bit different than demos completely recorded and "produced" almost like a released recording, like the case of 77 demos, or autumn 78 demos

of course now things are different, Guy and Mak can spent all the time they want in studio, so they can record and mix at many different stages during the album recording


Jimi Hendrix recorded tons of demos because he couldn't write his music, but I'm not sure it's the case for all artists all the time.

And it depends on what you call a "demo"

it can be rehearsal recorded, a jam recorded, a self-made recording in a hotel room, an alternate mix, only a different overdub, etc...

for example on "gloden demos", I make a difference between DWB or LOTW which are the final recording without lead guitar overdub, and no wonder he's confused or secondray waltz, which are works in progress, attemps, or whaterver you could call it, but all songs are under the name "demo"


here are "studio outtakes" from floyd' animals :

http://www.gilmourish.com/?p=4953 (http://www.gilmourish.com/?p=4953)

Someone could call them "demos", but it contains many final tracks from the final release, so it's not completely "demos" in the way I quoted the WDYTYG form the MFN comp which is a completely different recording from the Nassau sessions
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on February 20, 2014, 06:41:55 PM
Oh, to be a fly on the wall right now at BG - before Guy suggests to remove all the guitar solos to let the song "breathe" and then John and Mike come in and change them into a "Celtic Connections Take LSD" sound!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on February 20, 2014, 06:42:34 PM
It would be interesting to hear demos of songs that got complex arrangements in the studio, like Ride across the river and such songs.

yes, maybe it would like listen to the Waters acoustic demo of Money, compared to the final mindblowing version on the album... :D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: knopfling on February 20, 2014, 07:49:14 PM
I agree with 3Strats on the blues stuff. I was so hoping he'd do a blues album in the direction of "I Think I Love You Too Much," but "Don't Forget Your Hat" didn't do it for me.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on February 20, 2014, 09:15:50 PM
I agree with 3Strats on the blues stuff. I was so hoping he'd do a blues album in the direction of "I Think I Love You Too Much," but "Don't Forget Your Hat" didn't do it for me.

the best Mark's bluesy tone and playing is on bob's Change my way of thinking imho
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Tally on February 21, 2014, 01:20:41 PM
Sonny Liston (live) and Junkie Doll (live in particular but also on the album) sound very well. On Privateering, Bluebird is the the best blues song. Simple but haunting.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on February 21, 2014, 02:09:00 PM
On Privateering, Bluebird is the the best blues song. Simple but haunting.

in term of rhyhtm/groove/playing/sound/tone/arrangements, I prefer Blood and water
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Tally on February 21, 2014, 02:48:06 PM
I'm not very fond of Blood and Water. Except for the chorus part with the water sound. I feel I "should" like it, but it just seems that we've heard songs like this many times before.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: sweetsurrender on February 21, 2014, 03:05:49 PM
Sonny Liston (live) and Junkie Doll (live in particular but also on the album) sound very well. On Privateering, Bluebird is the the best blues song. Simple but haunting.

Yesssss !  Bluebird is the best blues song ever from MK !!!!!!!  I hope there will be more like it in the new album.   :thumbsup :thumbsup

Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on February 21, 2014, 03:42:03 PM
"Today is OK" for me!     :thumbsup
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Banjo99uk on February 21, 2014, 06:09:09 PM
"Today is OK" for me!     :thumbsup
+1
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 21, 2014, 06:16:22 PM
Great MK blues songs for me are You and Your Friend (Live) and Fade To Black (Live) plus Planet of New Orleans
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: xardas on February 21, 2014, 06:53:22 PM
Hello!

bluebird... just mind blowing!!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Pottel on February 21, 2014, 07:09:33 PM
Great MK blues songs for me are You and Your Friend (Live) and Fade To Black (Live) plus Planet of New Orleans
agree. and bluebird, and blood and water and the privateering bonus songs.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on February 21, 2014, 07:49:56 PM
I must confess that the first few months after its release, River Of Grog did not work for me, I did not like that song at all. But in the meantime, I really
LOVE it! His singing is great, the guitar sounds great, the melody is unusual, a little complicated and just creepy, great song!!!

I really thought if MK would ever do an album like this song, just the man and the guitar (and maybe sometimes an electric like on the Bonus-live-version of Baloney Again) it would be perfectly well for me!!

River of Grog.

Bluebird is a great blues track, also Today is Okay, but Got To Have Something is sometimes underrated. It is great, too, much better for to to listen to than the boring Kingdom of Gold... plus Jim is doing some great stuff there.

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: El Macho on February 21, 2014, 11:15:20 PM
Gator Blood played live (late in the tour) is wonderful. I love this swamp rocky blues sound (could be a Tony Joe White song).
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on February 22, 2014, 08:01:28 AM
Indeed it is. I love the live versions, too, (my favourite is Padova) and think that the studio version lacks a cool intro. It is quite disturbing for me how the song starts on the album. Hope that GB makes it onto the next set lists.

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 25, 2014, 12:03:38 PM
Guy answered me to one question in his forum regarding if the band has been called for sessions, and he says that there is no dates for that yet, or something like that as I dont recall the exact answer and cant check it now...

Maybe we can forget about a 2015 tour... When I got his answer I checked the previous recording diaries and there is always a more or less long period of Mk and Guy alone, then the band comes, sometimes in two different periods, one around the end of the year, and another one at the beguining of next year, which is the release year...

So, if the MK musicians, that are the most busy musicians as they are working in tons of recordings in Nashville, were not called to any date yet, maybe this is gonna be more slower than we thought...

Recordings with the band around fall/winter 2014
Final recordings during the beguining of 2015
Release in september 2015
Tour starting spring 2016

Check previous recording diaries and you will see that this fits better with MK routine, unfortunatly for us.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: yontwocrows on February 25, 2014, 12:15:53 PM
I'm not totally convinced that there are no dates fixed. Even if band comes in in fall/winter the dates must have been organised. I'm still hoping that the band meets around 10th march til first week of April. We will see...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on February 25, 2014, 12:24:51 PM
I'm not totally convinced that there are no dates fixed. Even if band comes in in fall/winter the dates must have been organised. I'm still hoping that the band meets around 10th march til first week of April. We will see...

Presuming that John & Mike are to be on board again, John's tour with Mike and John Doyle will be ending on 8th March and resuming on 9th April with Heidi Talbot, so that would fit OK, just so long as the rest of the band are free too! 
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 25, 2014, 01:35:56 PM
That implies that Guy lied to me with his answer, because if the band was called, he could say "yes, but I can
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: foma on February 25, 2014, 02:57:24 PM
Good point jbaent! That's why I tend to plan anythyng only when I know exactly when things will be. I know many people already planned the whole 2015 for MK tour without any trace of official information, so I think they are all crazy.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: ingridswing on February 25, 2014, 03:40:43 PM
Sure we are crazy. I don't plan anything for 2015 till I know what's going to happen with MK. Then everything will be scheduled around the tour (I think we still have a good chance it will take place).
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: ds1984 on February 25, 2014, 06:38:43 PM
dude, a 3cd? i would soooooooooooo buy it. this discussion went on elsewhere, and i stick to my opinion, the more the merrier. i'd rather have 10 bad songs more then miss out on one new Long Highway (did this on purpose, for my good friend dmg)

I want a 4track release

telegraph tunnel planet sultans from on the night

I can pay any sum


And you can add, Why Worry,Portobello Belle, Fade to Black, So far away &The Long Highway from 1991, I Think I Love You Too Much & Setting me Up from 1992 US Tour, Iron Hand from Paris 1992.

Then a bonus CD with alternate live version of R&J, Heavy Fuel, YourLatest Trick form the 1991 leg, full uncut version of MFN and WOL (although only for completist collection for the latter one) and new mixe of "OES" with a greater sound difference during the "middle quiet sequence".
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 25, 2014, 07:05:49 PM
Sure we are crazy. I don't plan anything for 2015 till I know what's going to happen with MK. Then everything will be scheduled around the tour (I think we still have a good chance it will take place).

I wish you are right, but if MK sticks to his routine, and release in september of this year, its needed that the musicians are booked already, as they are very busy musicians. Unless MK decided to go on improvisation, and call whatever the musician is available instead the ones he wants.

Other chance is that they are booked to come and play at the end of the year, and they release the cd in spring 2015 (like with GH and ATRR) and go on tour one or two months later, which seems unlikely to me.

Unless you have other information, in which case, contact me in private, please  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: ds1984 on February 25, 2014, 07:28:39 PM
Mark has extensively worked the last couple of years so let give him some time to breath. 2015 would have been logical but 2016 would not be that long (Gilmour fan have to wait way longer between solo tour  ;D)

Now that Mark is his own boss, nobody to tell him "call the band, take your favourite guitar, put your amp on and play and record your bloody songs like if your were performing them in a small sweaty London club. Do it five day a week for two weeks, then select the best takes, mix them in three days and put that fuckin' record out and go on the road with it".

Instead this is more of "which of my 200 Martins&Co will sounds best on that song for these next two chords? Guy come on we will have a long experimenting day today!"

Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Justme on February 25, 2014, 07:36:11 PM
Mark has extensively worked the last couple of years so let give him some time to breath. 2015 would have been logical but 2016 would not be that long (Gilmour fan have to wait way longer between solo tour  ;D)

Now that Mark is his own boss, nobody to tell him "call the band, take your favourite guitar, put your amp on and play and record your bloody songs like if your were performing them in a small sweaty London club. Do it five day a week for two weeks, then select the best takes, mix them in three days and put that fuckin' record out and go on the road with it".

Instead this is more of "which of my 200 Martins&Co will sounds best on that song for these next two chords? Guy come on we will have a long experimenting day today!"

Good summary of the situation.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 25, 2014, 08:22:44 PM
Of course, we are not pushing MK to hurry with this (but... better sooner than later, LOL), we are only expeculating with dates, with the little info we have. Of course the cd will be out when its out, and same with the tour, but, we should talk about something in the meantime  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on February 25, 2014, 10:55:09 PM
I don't really see why the tour dates always have to be the same every year.  It might be nice to have a change.  Also, why does he have to wait for the two Mc's to get themselves together?  Just do an album without them for a change or use other musicians.  Does he actually write songs with them in mind now or what!  I think getting his own studio has meant the recording process has become a much slower and more relaxed affair for Mark.  I get the impression it's like he gets the lads around, they have a wee play and sing-a-long, then go for a pint.  Doesn't sound very professional and even, dare I say it, like they're not taking it serious. 
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: foma on February 25, 2014, 11:10:57 PM
Doesn't sound very professional and even, dare I say it, like they're not taking it serious. 

Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on February 25, 2014, 11:14:51 PM
But still - I think he has a pretty heavy regime and a very tough worker's men mentality, when it comes to studio work. Nothing to say about a pint after a hard day's work (when you like it)

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: yontwocrows on February 26, 2014, 12:48:24 AM
That implies that Guy lied to me with his answer, because if the band was called, he could say "yes, but I can
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: ds1984 on February 26, 2014, 10:48:07 AM
Of course, we are not pushing MK to hurry with this (but... better sooner than later, LOL), we are only expeculating with dates, with the little info we have. Of course the cd will be out when its out, and same with the tour, but, we should talk about something in the meantime  ;D

Of course we are to discuss and share opinions.

I don't really see why the tour dates always have to be the same every year.  It might be nice to have a change.

The usual timing is typically Mark's wish.

This originate from the exhausting 85/86 tour and for OES Mark asked the management "to follow the sun". Of course doing a world tour panned over a 13 month period is not that easy to respect but from 1996 onward this has been established as a trademark, touring from spring to early summer then the important for him family summer holiday and not stay away from home for too long period.
You have to be Bob Dylan to make him accept to go on the road for a rainy fall tour by bus or be short record promotion run (and the more the years goes the less promotion for them Mark tend to do).

Mark at 70 being his own boss, has control over almost everything he can control and is in its comfort zone without record company or management interference about what he's recording or timing.
The main concern for him seem to keep on filling the venues where he plays. Europe is still pretty good but USA (at least some part of) seem to be more difficult.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on February 26, 2014, 11:04:34 AM
 ds1984  -  MK isn't 70 for a few more years yet!    ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on February 26, 2014, 11:36:41 AM
ds1984  -  MK isn't 70 for a few more years yet!    ;)

well, at (almost) 65, he "passed" the decade's middle (as we say in french : after the decade's middle, you're on the "downslope")...so 70 can seem soon.... ::)  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: ds1984 on February 26, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
ds1984  -  MK isn't 70 for a few more years yet!    ;)

well, at (almost) 65, he "passed" the decade's middle (as we say in french : after the decade's middle, you're on the "downslope")...so 70 can seem soon.... ::)  ;D

Well I actually mixed him with EC who will turn 69 soon (but sound still younger than Mark!)

Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on February 26, 2014, 11:54:15 AM
ds1984  -  MK isn't 70 for a few more years yet!    ;)

well, at (almost) 65, he "passed" the decade's middle (as we say in french : after the decade's middle, you're on the "downslope")...so 70 can seem soon.... ::)  ;D

Well I actually mixed him with EC who will turn 69 soon (but sound still younger than Mark!)

  I think EC sounds much older than Mark, certainly on his recent albums.   Privateering appealed to me much more than Old Sock.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: ds1984 on February 26, 2014, 11:57:52 AM
ds1984  -  MK isn't 70 for a few more years yet!    ;)

well, at (almost) 65, he "passed" the decade's middle (as we say in french : after the decade's middle, you're on the "downslope")...so 70 can seem soon.... ::)  ;D

Well I actually mixed him with EC who will turn 69 soon (but sound still younger than Mark!)

  I think EC sounds much older than Mark, certainly on his recent albums.   Privateering appealed to me much more than Old Sock.

Right, I should have mentioned "live" as I haven't listened to Eric's recent studio album.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on February 26, 2014, 12:45:53 PM
Yeah, Mark sounds about 90 live these days!  Bob seems about 20 years younger on the stage and yet is unbelievably older!!! :disbelief

Just been listening to versions of WII for the other thread lately and I can't believe how much energy has dissipated from his performances since then.  He can't even find enough breath to sing all the words these days!  :lol
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: yontwocrows on February 26, 2014, 02:08:43 PM
If Mark sounds like 90, i wanna be 90 as well!  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on February 26, 2014, 02:16:20 PM
If Mark sounds like 90, i wanna be 90 as well!  ;D

 :clap    :clap
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: crimmer on February 26, 2014, 04:24:55 PM
in 2013 saw mark play 6 times, also saw eric Clapton and chris rea at bluesfest

most enegery on stage was chris rea!, dancing and spinning around ,and amost tripping of  a guitar lead,and voice good as well

think claptons voice was the best out of the 3 and playing seems ok too,

 but overall think knopflers concerts were the best out of the three, just that knopfler sound and his voice has never been great but goes with the music , think 2013 had way more energy than the 2010 concerts may of been due to his back in 2010
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 27, 2014, 11:59:36 AM
Tiny change on diary status that i hope it means something...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on February 27, 2014, 12:07:33 PM
And again at 11am UK time this morning -
http://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/index.php/diary/2014_MK_Recording
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 27, 2014, 01:53:16 PM
Funny messages...

I hope it worths the wait  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: ds1984 on February 27, 2014, 02:25:49 PM
Would be better with sound : exclusive to the world, listen to Mark Knopfler's next album demoes!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on February 27, 2014, 03:20:19 PM
Yawn...why don't we start to write it ourselves! :think
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on February 27, 2014, 03:24:45 PM
Yawn...why don't we start to write it ourselves! :think

Good idea!    I know - let's start with a rack of guitars and err, maybe a mixing desk!    :think
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: border_reiver on February 27, 2014, 03:46:10 PM
I'm calling the responsibility for the usual "after studio"-pic from the local pub while having a Fuller's  :)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Banjo99uk on February 27, 2014, 04:38:38 PM
He has put a minor update saying studio content coming soon....I promise.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on February 27, 2014, 06:28:42 PM
And he changed the background ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Banjo99uk on February 27, 2014, 07:53:13 PM
nearly......
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: foma on February 27, 2014, 08:05:28 PM
Yeah! Something is going to happen to make your whole life better!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on February 27, 2014, 10:36:33 PM
Come on Guy, stop playing with us, we are ready  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on February 27, 2014, 10:40:41 PM
Come on Guy, stop playing with us, we are ready  ;D

I think he will wait one more day...

Tomorrow it is ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on February 28, 2014, 12:13:20 PM
I think Guy's taking so long because he's not sure how to word the bad news.  That is that Scotland is getting the referendum version of the new album with only John and Phil playing on it because all the other musicians are now based in England! ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on February 28, 2014, 12:17:00 PM
 ;D ;D ;D   dmg, I think that the rest will become honourary Scots, if they bring any revenue!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: naif on March 01, 2014, 01:52:57 PM
I was read the diary 5 minutes ago, but now it's gone. Technical problem probably. 10 guitars and one drum set with Ian thomas was the pictures.

Edit: The problem was solved!!

Here it is: http://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/index.php/2014mkrecording/2014StudioDiary1
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on March 01, 2014, 04:06:17 PM
I was read the diary 5 minutes ago, but now it's gone. Technical problem probably. 10 guitars and one drum set with Ian thomas was the pictures.

Edit: The problem was solved!!

Here it is: http://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/index.php/2014mkrecording/2014StudioDiary1

A nice read :)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 01, 2014, 05:26:49 PM
Yeah, nice MK pic. New glasses.

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on March 01, 2014, 05:37:16 PM
At last! - Very nice,  thanks Guy!    :)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Robson on March 01, 2014, 05:38:14 PM
http://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/images/cms/diaries/2014%20Recording/MarkBigGuitars.jpg

:)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: xxFordiexx on March 01, 2014, 08:12:35 PM
Man crush lol  ::)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on March 01, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
Wahay - worth the wait to see the excellent photo's and read the first update and I am pleased judging from the lineup it's not an acoustic album as some on here speculated!!
Perhaps a good old rock 'n' roll album instead?

Again I'm liking the guitars being used and also nice to see the abundance of amps getting an airing.

Looking forward to the next update...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on March 01, 2014, 08:52:30 PM
Yeah, nice MK pic. New glasses.

LE

Hi LE,
He was wearing those glasses at the Bridport show....
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 01, 2014, 08:58:45 PM
Yeah, nice MK pic. New glasses.

LE

Hi LE,
He was wearing those glasses at the Bridport show....
and when I saw him at JI's pub.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on March 01, 2014, 09:06:12 PM
...... also when Vicente Amigo presented him with a guitar in Malaga last year:

http://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/index.php/2013mkeuro/27th_July_2013_-_Malaga
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Justme on March 01, 2014, 09:55:57 PM
Are you guys sure? To me those glasses look like they are round.
Cannot believe we are talking about his glasses.  ;D

Did you see all these geeetarz?  :clap
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Throttle on March 01, 2014, 10:11:47 PM
Cannot believe we are talking about his glasses.  ;D

It's a matter of great importance.
I suppose I need those glasses, considering that for first time in the last years I can see him without his wedding ring  :hmm
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on March 01, 2014, 10:12:07 PM
Are you guys sure? To me those glasses look like they are round.
Cannot believe we are talking about his glasses.  ;D

Did you see all these geeetarz?  :clap

I thought they were round too.  Like those on Wally out of Where's Wally? :lol
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Justme on March 01, 2014, 10:23:51 PM
Cannot believe we are talking about his glasses.  ;D

It's a matter of great importance.
I suppose I need those glasses, considering that for first time in the last years I can see him without his wedding ring  :hmm

Ooops, you're right....
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Justme on March 01, 2014, 10:24:47 PM
Are you guys sure? To me those glasses look like they are round.
Cannot believe we are talking about his glasses.  ;D

Did you see all these geeetarz?  :clap

I thought they were round too.  Like those on Wally out of Where's Wally? :lol

Yes, but where is he?

 http://www.thedrum.com/uploads/drum_basic_article/97639/main_images/WheresWallyAtWembley_6.jpg (http://www.thedrum.com/uploads/drum_basic_article/97639/main_images/WheresWallyAtWembley_6.jpg)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 01, 2014, 10:28:06 PM
Ok then, old glasses ...  ;D

I just wanted to find something interesting in this ... entry, you know.

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Justme on March 01, 2014, 10:42:50 PM
Some time ago he said something like "you have to avoid to become a kid in the sweetshop".

I don't know if I should wish for a more simple approach: "Here's your Les Paul and a valve amp, that's all you got, your album should be done in a week! [manager walks away and closes the door to studio 2]
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Justme on March 01, 2014, 10:50:18 PM
Btw, did you notice that there isn't the National in any of those pics?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 01, 2014, 10:54:00 PM
and does anyone know the competition answer. I dont have a clue about the songs but can guess a few of the guitars
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Justme on March 01, 2014, 10:59:15 PM
It's a pity I cannot name all of those beauties.

But, hey - let's throw our knowledge together and we can share all those genuine MK picks amongst us.  ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on March 01, 2014, 11:10:20 PM
It would be unfair for the ones that know them. Ingo and JF surely know them all!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on March 01, 2014, 11:28:42 PM
well yes, I just sent my answer....
I won't share it now, you'll understand.... ::) ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on March 01, 2014, 11:32:47 PM
Good luck then! All this knowledge will eventually pay, apart from the joy you have been getting from knowing!  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on March 01, 2014, 11:38:12 PM
thanks
I'm not 100% sure, and even by zooming, we can't see exactly the guitars, so I could be wrong on some
wait and see...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 01, 2014, 11:45:35 PM
thanks
I'm not 100% sure, and even by zooming, we can't see exactly the guitars, so I could be wrong on some
wait and see...
im not entering the comp as I dont want to make a fool of myself, but is one of the guitars from Calling Elvis.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on March 01, 2014, 11:49:54 PM
is one of the guitars from Calling Elvis.

for studio version no (pensa-shur MK1), but for live 96 and 2001 yes
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on March 02, 2014, 12:07:32 AM
Btw, did you notice that there isn't the National in any of those pics?

yes, until now, two other albums does not feature the national (I mean Mark's one) :

the ragpicker's dream (although some steel slide by Richard on Old pigweed)
Get lucky

and for STP : not sure
maybe Junkie doll has the national played by Richard like on tour, but not sure, it could be a Richard's one
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on March 02, 2014, 12:16:38 AM
I suppose I need those glasses, considering that for first time in the last years I can see him without his wedding ring  :hmm

I'm not sure, you can't see the first phalanx of his ring finger, so you can't see if he has it or not
   
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Justme on March 02, 2014, 12:17:35 AM
Btw, did you notice that there isn't the National in any of those pics?

yes, until now, two other albums does not feature the national (I mean Mark's one) :

the ragpicker's dream (although some steel slide by Richard on Old pigweed)
Get lucky

and for STP : not sure
maybe Junkie doll has the national played by Richard like on tour, but not sure, it could be a Richard's one

Considering "Get Lucky", I thought Richard plays the National on "Pulling Down The Ride"?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Justme on March 02, 2014, 12:42:37 AM
"Wine Red Raspberry Ripple Rogers"

 :D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: foma on March 02, 2014, 09:58:39 AM
Name all guitars is a piece of cake, but songs is a tough one. Especially when it comes to distinguish between ES-335 with different pickups and 1959 and 1958 Les Paul.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on March 02, 2014, 10:01:16 AM
Considering "Get Lucky", I thought Richard plays the National on "Pulling Down The Ride"?

no, when Richard is playing slide (lap steel playing), like on pulling down the ride, he uses his own national triplate with a big square neck, the one he uses on :
- old pigweed
- in the heartland
- all that matters
...

Mark introduce this guitar saying "it has a really really big square neck, very hard to play" during 2005 tour for all that matters, and specially at Botthbay 2006


for stand up guy, it's not clear :
on the album booklet it's written Richard plays his "hawwaian national" on both ATM and SUG, and on MK news, Chuck ainlay provided infos saying that he plays Mark's national on SUG....
so difficult to say....
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on March 02, 2014, 10:01:59 AM
Name all guitars is a piece of cake, but songs is a tough one. Especially when it comes to distinguish between ES-335 with different pickups and 1959 and 1958 Les Paul.

yes agree, but clues exists.... ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 02, 2014, 10:05:30 AM
Can't really agree that it was worth the wait.

Nice pics but no real insights, no info on rumoured collaborations etc.

And the recording process appears to be following that of what is generally regarded to be his worst album ever...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Fletch on March 02, 2014, 10:36:44 AM
Someone recently has mentioned a parody that Mark & Guy spend days/weeks checking which Martin will sound best on "the next two chords". That kind of epitomises what I dislike about the modern millionaire ex-rock star vibe.
I guess it really is retirement, in a sense, there's no pressure to pump out an album every year and therefore the artist can get comfy in the armchair and not push themselves.
Who can blame them? After Marks whole career why should he 'have' to bring us the cutting edge of Communique or Love Over Gold. He has earned the right to do what he wants, and that IS success.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 02, 2014, 10:57:45 AM
SUG??  :hmm :hmm how I hate these abbreviations...

And Dusty, I agree. Although I do not fully understand what you mean by

And the recording process appears to be following that of what is generally regarded to be his worst album ever...


You mean his next one? Or do you think Privateering was his worst ever? Sorry for my daftness, it is just a grammatical thing, or maybe it's too early for me...
 ::)
LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on March 02, 2014, 11:15:05 AM
SUG is Stand up Guy
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on March 02, 2014, 11:33:43 AM
SUG??  :hmm :hmm how I hate these abbreviations...

And Dusty, I agree. Although I do not fully understand what you mean by

And the recording process appears to be following that of what is generally regarded to be his worst album ever...


You mean his next one? Or do you think Privateering was his worst ever? Sorry for my daftness, it is just a grammatical thing, or maybe it's too early for me...
 ::)
LE

Yes LE I agree about abreviations, and I try most of the time to not use them, but sometimes whan I have 2 longs song titles in the same sentence, I admit I succumb to the temptation... :-\

I don't understand dusty's comment either, if it's about Privateering I find it a little bit harsh, but of course it's all matter of taste  :)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 02, 2014, 11:42:20 AM
No problem, JF, I must admit that I used to use them myself, and of course it is Stand Up Guy, could have checked it, it was not so difficult after all...

after several cups of coffee it suddenly struck me that Dusty of course means Kill To Get Crimson, because the process of work is pretty much the same... working all alone with Guy in the studio, taking a long time to dive into the songs etc...

Right?  ;D

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Justme on March 02, 2014, 11:47:06 AM
Considering "Get Lucky", I thought Richard plays the National on "Pulling Down The Ride"?

no, when Richard is playing slide (lap steel playing), like on pulling down the ride, he uses his own national triplate with a big square neck, the one he uses on :
- old pigweed
- in the heartland
- all that matters
...

Mark introduce this guitar saying "it has a really really big square neck, very hard to play" during 2005 tour for all that matters, and specially at Botthbay 2006


for stand up guy, it's not clear :
on the album booklet it's written Richard plays his "hawwaian national" on both ATM and SUG, and on MK news, Chuck ainlay provided infos saying that he plays Mark's national on SUG....
so difficult to say....

Ah, thanks!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 02, 2014, 11:51:20 AM
About Guy's forum, I sent another question to him about 8 to 10 days ago.. (can't hardly remember what it was I asked  ;D, something about him losing his interest in keeping his site updated and something like that, but friendly-written and with the adequate praise for the upcoming GF3). It seems he doesn't answer questions not with the same consistency than he used to. There were times when really EVERY question was posted. Nowadays it seems he chooses what fits best and ignores the rest. First time I got knowledge of this was when the secret US gig took place last October. To be fair to Guy, I got a personal message from him that explained to me why he couldn't comment on it.

Somehow it seems there is some change in PR work. Maybe Mark has enough of the constant diary stuff following his work. And "just a lot of drinking of tea and chit chat punctuated with occasional flurries of activity" does not sound excactly like the big amount of work he was indicating in earlier comments, doesn't it?

I can live with it perfectly well as long as we have a great new album. All I want to say is why keeping the tension up with announcing something and not delivering it for three months and then coming up with stuff that could have come from recent diary entries just as well. guitars, desks, mics. Mics. guitars. Desks. Oh, and Mark!

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: foma on March 02, 2014, 12:45:46 PM
I sent an answer for competition, but seems like it's almost impossible to be 100% correct (even for MK lol), although for 50% of songs there is a clues everywhere.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on March 02, 2014, 01:19:47 PM
The diary entry says to me how naive were we thinking that the new cd will be out this year touring next...

It looks like they are in early stages yet, unless Guy provides with new (and valuable) information, my guess is cd out in 2015, tour on 2016.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 02, 2014, 01:32:21 PM
Yes guys, I meant KTGC. :)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: yontwocrows on March 02, 2014, 01:48:56 PM
The diary entry says to me how naive were we thinking that the new cd will be out this year touring next...

It looks like they are in early stages yet, unless Guy provides with new (and valuable) information, my guess is cd out in 2015, tour on 2016.

i fear you're right
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on March 02, 2014, 02:16:38 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrggghhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :smack :smack :smack

I saw only today the mail where to send the asnwer for the contest. I sent my answer yesterday bu to the forum mail

and...in haste......I reversed 2 guitars in my answer :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief :smack


I sent it again with the correction to the right mail today, but....

it seems it's over for me.... :'(

good luck to you guys  :wave
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Pottel on March 02, 2014, 09:34:30 PM
The diary entry says to me how naive were we thinking that the new cd will be out this year touring next...

It looks like they are in early stages yet, unless Guy provides with new (and valuable) information, my guess is cd out in 2015, tour on 2016.
huh? where is that written??
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Guitarman1972 on March 04, 2014, 09:13:22 PM
I still think we will see a new album this year. Somewhere in the fall. Probably October instead of the usual around September release. Remember Guy said something on his forum about some oppertunity comming in between they couldn't let pass by. Secondly he also states that they have locked themselves away.

Quote
"after another great stint on the road last summer, Mark and I resumed work in the studio a few months ago and started work on another album."

Besides that I think he keeps something secret from us for now about this recording. I think they have some very special guest(s) on it. Also this could be a very good sign it takes a bit longer. Usually first Mark and Guy work out and lay down the basic songs and later they add the band. Adding the band to the tracks doesn't take that much time. Mark works with very skilled musicians. It's often just a matter of a couple of weeks to add those tracks with the rest of the band. I have a feeling Mark wrote alot of material again from which they can work with.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Justme on March 04, 2014, 09:25:56 PM
I still think we will see a new album this year. Somewhere in the fall. Probably October instead of the usual around September release. Remember Guy said something on his forum about some oppertunity comming in between they couldn't let pass by. Secondly he also states that they have locked themselves away.

Quote
"after another great stint on the road last summer, Mark and I resumed work in the studio a few months ago and started work on another album."

Besides that I think he keeps something secret from us for now about this recording. I think they have some very special guest(s) on it. Also this could be a very good sign it takes a bit longer. Usually first Mark and Guy work out and lay down the basic songs and later they add the band. Adding the band to the tracks doesn't take that much time. Mark works with very skilled musicians. It's often just a matter of a couple of weeks to add those tracks with the rest of the band. I have a feeling Mark wrote alot of material again from which they can work with.

I do really hope, that you're right. But my impression is that we will have to wait until the autumn of 2015....
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Guitarman1972 on March 04, 2014, 10:44:11 PM
Why would you think the new album will be released in 2015? To me it doesn't make sense. He is now in the studio working on the album. If you look back since 2000 he released every two years a new album. Except for the last one, but we got a double album from Mark to make up for that. :-)

To me it doesn't look like his kinda normal routine 2 year scedule, if he would release it in 2015. Writing songs in the fall, recording winter/early spring, mixing/mastering in spring time, summer manufacturing etc of the cds.. around fall album release. Then fall and winter promotion on tv and in magazines and beginning of spring tour.

Also Mark understands he is aging and that at some point his body won't let him do what his mind wants to do. Knowing Mark there is still so much he wants to put out there into the world. That album will be here in the fall!  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on March 04, 2014, 11:12:47 PM
I agree with Guitarman.  There's plenty of time yet to record an album - we're only just into March and it doesn't take long to record an album really.  The EP back in '83 took only days to record!

There's also the possibility that they could go on the road as the album's being released.  Why do they have to wait until the year after release?  In '91 they were on the road before the OES album was even released!  Same for BIA I think.  What a load of panic merchants! ::)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 04, 2014, 11:20:07 PM
For an autumn 2014 release the album has to be mixed/comped/completed in May 2014. There are these inevitable months between completing the recording and its final release...  Now we have March and the band has not even been at BG...

So maybe it will be an semi-acoustic album, and the band has just some minor jobs to do.. a three week stint and everything is ready because Guy and Mark pre-worked so well... The schedule is tight nevertheless and I am also sceptical in matters of an autumn release this year...

Maybe Mark breaks the routine (once more) like he did with Emmylou or Golden Heart and plans a spring 2015 release. That again would mean no tour start in March/April 2015 but later... or it will be just a small tour...

Or mark really takes his time. Doing two, three, four, more band sessions, guest musicians etc. and really will release the album when it's ready - autumn 2015...

It is quite thrilling isn't it...

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on March 05, 2014, 11:52:09 AM
For an autumn 2014 release the album has to be mixed/comped/completed in May 2014. There are these inevitable months between completing the recording and its final release...  Now we have March and the band has not even been at BG...

May 2014 completion isn't impossible (probably) but why so long to release?  What about a summer release?

So maybe it will be an semi-acoustic album, and the band has just some minor jobs to do.. a three week stint and everything is ready because Guy and Mark pre-worked so well... The schedule is tight nevertheless and I am also sceptical in matters of an autumn release this year...

Maybe Mark breaks the routine (once more) like he did with Emmylou or Golden Heart and plans a spring 2015 release. That again would mean no tour start in March/April 2015 but later... or it will be just a small tour...

He might release in March/April 2015 and start the tour around this time too!

Or mark really takes his time. Doing two, three, four, more band sessions, guest musicians etc. and really will release the album when it's ready - autumn 2015...

It is quite thrilling isn't it...

Argh... ;D

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: tunnel85 on March 05, 2014, 02:04:00 PM
Don't panic   :disbelief
The man just moved to Universal.
That means Universal wants a record as soon as possible and I have no doubt MK wants to show his loyalty.
Moreover, Guy is obviously too busy to update his diary section. That's a very good sign: they are under pressure.  ;D 

Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Knopflerfan on March 05, 2014, 05:59:42 PM
Personally I reckon MK already has the songs/tunes as he stated at Bridport he already has a backlog of many songs. I am going very strongly for a summer/Autumn release with a tour next year!
That's what I'm hoping for as I want to do as many shows as possible for my 40th Birthday year!!!!!!!! ;) :wave
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Justme on March 05, 2014, 07:47:46 PM
Don't panic   :disbelief
The man just moved to Universal.
That means Universal wants a record as soon as possible and I have no doubt MK wants to show his loyalty.
Moreover, Guy is obviously too busy to update his diary section. That's a very good sign: they are under pressure.  ;D


Good point!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on March 06, 2014, 01:24:32 AM

Don't panic   :disbelief
The man just moved to Universal.
That means Universal wants a record as soon as possible and I have no doubt MK wants to show his loyalty.
Moreover, Guy is obviously too busy to update his diary section. That's a very good sign: they are under pressure.  ;D

That only applies for the US, he is with Universal since they "eat" Mercury, long ago.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on March 06, 2014, 02:01:18 PM
Guy is being misterious about when the band will come to record. After he said that next diarie entry will be when band comes to town, i asked him if there are any date for this, and he didnt answer at all.

I wonder why all that mistery about it...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: MusicGirl1 on March 07, 2014, 09:01:39 AM
Have been reading the most recent posts in this topic. Well....., it sure would be nice if Mark & band are planning on releasing a new album somewhere in the summer/fall, or maybe early 2015.

If all this mysterious stuff Guy is coming up with means they are working on something new, that would be very good news.  :)

Have a good friday all (it's almost weekend everyone  :)),

Maaike
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on March 07, 2014, 09:58:52 AM
quote author=MusicGirl1 link=topic=3501.msg79891#msg79891 date=1394179299]
Have been reading the most recent posts in this topic. Well....., it sure would be nice if Mark & band are planning on releasing a new album somewhere in the summer/fall, or maybe early 2015.

If all this mysterious stuff Guy is coming up with means they are working on something new, that would be very good news.  :)

Have a good friday all (it's almost weekend everyone  :)),

Maaike
[/quote]

Hello Maaike from the netherlands ;)

we are talking about this:

http://guyfletcher.co.uk/index.php/2014mkrecording/2014StudioDiary1

Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: El Macho on March 07, 2014, 11:26:13 AM
I've just read the answers of the guitars competition.
Guy mentions songs we don't know, probably left from previous albums.
Mark Knopfler Signature Stratocaster: When I'm on my own
Grosh Electrajet: Bonfire Night
Gibson ES330: When It's over
and one we alreday know, 1954 Fender Stratocaster : Two skinny kids
Now that Guy mentioned these songs, may we dare ask him from what recording sessions they are ?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: border_reiver on March 07, 2014, 11:26:39 AM
According to the competion list Glenn Saggers may have spilled some beans regarding upcoming titles! (Two skinny kids, finally, YAY!)

MK Recording Diary February 2014

COMPETITION IS NOW CLOSED

Thanks to all who entered this tricky competition. The winner was Jarle Larsen from Norway who gave the first correct answer. SO many of you were incredibly close which shows you really know your MK guitars. Personally, I thought it would be impossible.



Here is the official list from Glenn Saggers

1964 Fender Stratocaster: Sailing to Philadelphia

1954 Fender Stratocaster:Heart full of holes/Fish and the bird/Punish the monkey/Behind with the rent/Let it all go/We can get wild/Remembrance day/The car was the one/I used to could/A quality shoe/Two skinny kids/Everybody pays/Summer of love/Shangri-la.

Mark Knopfler Signature Stratocaster: When I'm on my own/Redbud tree/Occupation blues.

Pensa MK 'D': Not on anything released, only recorded live on Kingdom of Gold. (I accepted Kingdom of Gold as the correct answer)

Grosh Electrajet: Bonfire Night/Yon two crows/Piper to the end.

Gibson ES330: Madam Geneva's/Behind with the rent/When It's over. (the precise year of this guitar is unknown as it has no serial number)

1959 Gibson ES 335: Baloney again/One more matinee/Wag the Dog.

1959 Gibson Les Paul Standard: The scaffolders wife/Let's see you.

1958 Gibson Les Paul Standard: So far from the Clyde/Before gas and Tv/Cleaning my gun/You can't beat the house/Remembrance day/Dream of the drowned submariner/Yon two crows/Follow the ribbon/Today is OK/Hot or what/Why aye man/You don't know your born/Speedway at Nazareth/5:15am/Back to Tupelo/Whoop de do/The trawlerman's song.

Gretsch 6120: In the sky/Punish the Monkey/The fizzy and the still/Hard shoulder/Yon two crows/Seattle.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: border_reiver on March 07, 2014, 11:28:25 AM
And  :clap to Jarle, congrats!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 07, 2014, 11:32:01 AM
I am no gear-head at all so I was not interested that much in Guy's competition. But what I know is that those new song titles have the typical MK flair and that they give me goosebumps alone by reading them...  :D

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: border_reiver on March 07, 2014, 11:34:23 AM
It's somewhat obvious that 'Two Skinny Kids' may be up for the next solo album or perhaps a Everly brothers tribute since the passing of Phil  :think
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on March 07, 2014, 11:54:22 AM
http://youtu.be/E6PiUzZH6fo
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: border_reiver on March 07, 2014, 12:05:38 PM
Nashville 1998, it's known  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on March 07, 2014, 12:09:09 PM
Can't fool any of you here!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on March 07, 2014, 12:34:09 PM
http://youtu.be/E6PiUzZH6fo

Didn't know that one...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on March 07, 2014, 12:41:43 PM
http://youtu.be/E6PiUzZH6fo

Didn't know that one...

Can't fool any of you here!  ;D ;D ;D

See Vgonis, you fooled Durchessy here!!!!

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on March 07, 2014, 12:42:15 PM
I've just read the answers of the guitars competition.
Guy mentions songs we don't know, probably left from previous albums.
Mark Knopfler Signature Stratocaster: When I'm on my own
Grosh Electrajet: Bonfire Night
Gibson ES330: When It's over
and one we alreday know, 1954 Fender Stratocaster : Two skinny kids
Now that Guy mentioned these songs, may we dare ask him from what recording sessions they are ?

Very very interesting...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on March 07, 2014, 12:46:01 PM
Glad to be of help!  ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: border_reiver on March 07, 2014, 12:46:26 PM
http://youtu.be/E6PiUzZH6fo

Didn't know that one...

http://oneverybootleg.nl/masterses.htm (http://oneverybootleg.nl/masterses.htm)

Check it out. The old late Telegraph Road-mailing list went crazy when this thing got out.

I still miss the old times at TR  :'(
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on March 07, 2014, 02:53:02 PM
http://youtu.be/E6PiUzZH6fo

Didn't know that one...

http://oneverybootleg.nl/masterses.htm (http://oneverybootleg.nl/masterses.htm)

Check it out. The old late Telegraph Road-mailing list went crazy when this thing got out.

I still miss the old times at TR  :'(

Someone called Larry Elder saId that he recorded not only the master sessions but also the concert itself where MK played with many country artists, including a duet with John Anderson in "When it comes to you" and "Two skinny kids", but that recording of the concert never saw the light of day  :(
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Jarle on March 07, 2014, 03:55:27 PM
And  :clap to Jarle, congrats!

Thank you :) I'm a happy guy today...

-J
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Throttle on March 07, 2014, 04:43:51 PM
:) I'm a happy guy today...
Grattis med seieren   :clap
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on March 07, 2014, 05:18:07 PM

congrats to you Jarle  :thumbsup :clap



BTW, I suppose you used infos provided by Chuck Ainlay on Mknews ? :


GET LUCKY
http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/Get_Lucky.html (http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/Get_Lucky.html)

KILL TO GET CRIMSON
http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/guits_amps.html (http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/guits_amps.html)

SHANGRI-LA
http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/SLguits.html (http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/SLguits.html)



and maybe infos I compiled Ingo's site in the "Gear used on all songs for all albums" section   ::):
http://www.mk-guitar.com/gear-on-all-songs-for-all-albums-wiki/ (http://www.mk-guitar.com/gear-on-all-songs-for-all-albums-wiki/)

coincidentally, I just updated this section last week, (before Guy posted his diary page), by adding 4 albums :

NHBs, neck and neck, ATTR, and Privateering

I will add the MKnews links in the albums pages
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Justme on March 07, 2014, 06:33:53 PM
And  :clap to Jarle, congrats!

Thank you :) I'm a happy guy today...

-J

Congrats!  :clap
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 07, 2014, 07:53:47 PM
You all know these two little creatures that sometimes sit on your shoulder, that little angel on the right and the little black devil on the left, talking to you? I had the imagination of Guy Fletcher today, in both variations...
The bad Guy was arrogantly saying to Glen Saggers, ah, give them the list, I have this boring competition for the get-a-lifers and really don't feel for working it out, Glen was on the spot providing the list, and Guy posted it without even looking at it... you can probably imagine what will happen to Glen in THIS dark world...
On the other hand, we have the bright friendly world, and the Good Guy was thinking, those poor fans had to wait for three months now for this diary entry, I will give them something for compensation...
 ;D ;D

Really, I have no idea how this could happen.. Do you think Guy does not even care about which songs have been released (as bonus tracks) and which not..?

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 07, 2014, 08:04:56 PM
Now more seriously, I listened to Two Skinny Kids on YouTube first time since years, and it is really so touching. The idea that MK came back to this after the Phil Everly died has something sad and is so typical MK. It is obvious that now it was the time to do it once more, properly.

Do you think this song will be recorded with pedal steel, therefore with the magic Paul Franklin again? Would so love to hear him again on an MK album..

It will be interesting to hear it from the new album and compare it with the old version - remember Secondary Waltz, there was not much resemblance with the first "Golden Demo"... I would love to hear it the same style as on the YouTube version.. with undoubtedly better vocals of course...


And talking about Paul Franklin, the track name "Bonfire Night"  let's my imagination go off for a new On Every Street...

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: sailtekxo on March 07, 2014, 08:31:00 PM
Btw, Bonfire Night is now deleted from the list
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 07, 2014, 08:31:50 PM
yeah, wanted to post that in the same minute. Strange enough, the other three songs are still there, whatever that means..

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Guitarman1972 on March 07, 2014, 08:58:50 PM
Quote
I still miss the old times at TR  :'(

Don't you cry Border Reiver... most of the T-Roadies are here  ;)

Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: H97 on March 07, 2014, 09:31:22 PM
Aaaaah I did the first six guitars but stopped because I had no time.
And yes, these were all right  :smack :smack
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 07, 2014, 09:40:06 PM
I was astonished about some guitar infos Guy provided. I always thought the blue Pensa "D" really was used on Yon Two Crows. Also I never knew about the
Gretsch on In The Sky and Seattle..

LE 
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on March 07, 2014, 09:55:05 PM
I was astonished about some guitar infos Guy provided. I always thought the blue Pensa "D" really was used on Yon Two Crows. Also I never knew about the
Gretsch on In The Sky and Seattle..

LE

Me too!  It also made me think how Mark has managed to reduce the number of guitars he takes on the road with him.  The red Strat reissue takes centre stage now and covers many bases, replacing a lot of guitars including the '54 Sunburst he used to take on the road for OSL and SFA.  Most of the guitars he takes on the road now are pretty new (aforementioned Strat, Don Grosh and the Pensa's) except the Les Pauls.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on March 07, 2014, 09:56:03 PM
I wonder if that song titles are from new songs (or songs for the next record) or songs left out of previous records...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: ds1984 on March 07, 2014, 10:17:37 PM
Congrat Jarle
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: foma on March 07, 2014, 10:40:43 PM
Here's original post with songs:

(http://cs320116.vk.me/v320116999/75f4/M_2QHUeGafw.jpg)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 07, 2014, 10:46:14 PM
Yeah that's the web, nothing's ever forgotten..

maybe Bonfire Night was sacked because of the similarities with  the world number one hit Bonfire Heart by Mr. Blunt...  :lol

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on March 07, 2014, 11:59:02 PM
Jarle way to go man!  :clap
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Jarle on March 08, 2014, 08:27:34 AM
Thanks, everyone :wave
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Post by: superval99 on March 08, 2014, 11:21:02 AM
Sorry I'm late, Jarle, but WELL DONE!    :)
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Post by: Knopflerfan on March 08, 2014, 12:05:56 PM
Yes another late one but well done Jarle! :clap
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Post by: straitsway75 on March 08, 2014, 08:08:30 PM
 :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup Jarle
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on March 08, 2014, 09:37:19 PM
According to Guy, that songs are not new ones...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 08, 2014, 10:52:08 PM
Yeah, probably unreleased from earlier sessions. Remember Ianto told us in an interview that a much higher number of songs were recorded for Privateering for example than released, don't remember the exact number.

So much ado about nothing!  ;D

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on March 09, 2014, 11:13:34 AM
Yeah, probably unreleased from earlier sessions. Remember Ianto told us in an interview that a much higher number of songs were recorded for Privateering for example than released, don't remember the exact number.


These were probably the songs with all the guitar solos in them! ::)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on March 09, 2014, 12:31:29 PM
Yeah, probably unreleased from earlier sessions. Remember Ianto told us in an interview that a much higher number of songs were recorded for Privateering for example than released, don't remember the exact number.


These were probably the songs with all the guitar solos in them! ::)

Whenever a song sounds like a DS song would sound, its left out, too much fun.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: sailtekxo on March 09, 2014, 02:23:44 PM
I think the only reason why Bonfire Night would be deleted -- and the other three still remaining -- is that Bonfire Night indeed is a new song, contrary to the other three older ones.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: ds1984 on March 09, 2014, 03:31:43 PM
Yeah, probably unreleased from earlier sessions. Remember Ianto told us in an interview that a much higher number of songs were recorded for Privateering for example than released, don't remember the exact number.

So much ado about nothing!  ;D

LE

Get Lucky as well with the one recorded at full volume in the boot. Each album has left over, some are reused later some others never.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 09, 2014, 03:59:47 PM
Right! About re-use - let's hope so!

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on March 09, 2014, 05:17:46 PM
And some appear partially in other songs. Do you remember the "making movies" song that got split up and the riff became the Expresso love riff while some of the lyrics ended up (as inspiration only and completely changed) as part of Skateaway. And Ironhand that appeared almost 8 years after it was written. We can still hope for that elusive riff from the DS era that could have been Money for nothing no.2! (although I really like this as an example and not as a reality. After all how many songs about Money can MK record, It's money that matters, No money at all...)
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Post by: border_reiver on March 09, 2014, 06:12:28 PM
Yeah, probably unreleased from earlier sessions. Remember Ianto told us in an interview that a much higher number of songs were recorded for Privateering for example than released, don't remember the exact number.

So much ado about nothing!  ;D

LE

So they're basically on the same dark side as 'Batting for England' and some of the others mentioned here:

http://www.knopflertk.net/canciones/nograbadas.htm (http://www.knopflertk.net/canciones/nograbadas.htm)

Btw, I have the Golden Demos but haven't figured out which one's 'Batting for England'". Any help?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Jarle on March 09, 2014, 06:56:24 PM
 :wave
I think the only reason why Bonfire Night would be deleted -- and the other three still remaining -- is that Bonfire Night indeed is a new song, contrary to the other three older ones.

I really hope Bonfire Night is a new song. I can hear it already. It is beautiful :)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on March 09, 2014, 07:06:12 PM
:wave
I think the only reason why Bonfire Night would be deleted -- and the other three still remaining -- is that Bonfire Night indeed is a new song, contrary to the other three older ones.

I really hope Bonfire Night is a new song. I can hear it already. It is beautiful :)

If the album is released in September, it will be in time for Bonfire Night in November - like Remembrance Day!   :think
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on March 09, 2014, 07:54:29 PM
border reiver, was there a plagiarism issue with sacred love and elvis costello? I really don't understand spanish and the google translation has difficulties with some words and making sense...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on March 09, 2014, 09:36:44 PM
:wave
I think the only reason why Bonfire Night would be deleted -- and the other three still remaining -- is that Bonfire Night indeed is a new song, contrary to the other three older ones.

I really hope Bonfire Night is a new song. I can hear it already. It is beautiful :)

If the album is released in September, it will be in time for Bonfire Night in November - like Remembrance Day!   :think

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on March 09, 2014, 10:55:02 PM
Good question LE ;)

Hi again, would you say the production of the new MK album is still in its early stages? Or - the other way around - is an autmn 2014 release still possible?   

Guy: I'd say we are well into it now.   
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 10, 2014, 07:36:09 AM
Thanks, Dutchessy, I thought someone had to bring back the discussion to the really interesting part of it... so fed up with straits leg ends stuff...  ;)

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: border_reiver on March 10, 2014, 02:40:28 PM
All the mentioned songs are now gone from the list except TSK.

Someone must have messed up, but in a good get-a-lifer's way  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: ds1984 on March 10, 2014, 03:25:57 PM
Nobody to ask Guy about these afterthought?  ;D

Some should compile all these title and issue an album named "The songs of MK that never was"
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 16, 2014, 03:57:41 PM
Guy has announced a new diary entry "fairly soon" as a band session is planned. Just to let you know and keep this thread updated.

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on March 16, 2014, 04:35:08 PM
Band session... Mmmmm
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Post by: Dutchessy on March 16, 2014, 11:29:27 PM
Band session... Mmmmm

That's great news!!! Right? :D :D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: holaknopfler on March 16, 2014, 11:43:32 PM
Album release in September still possible..
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Robson on March 17, 2014, 03:13:11 PM
Or october and november:)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on March 17, 2014, 03:32:20 PM
Album release in September still possible..

If this band sessions is THE band sessions, Its likely, but id its a band sessions... It means, if more work from them is needed in the future...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: tunnel85 on March 17, 2014, 04:43:20 PM
Or october and november:)
And tour dates in september  ::)  :wave
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Robson on March 17, 2014, 06:28:11 PM
Yes:)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on March 17, 2014, 07:05:56 PM
Album release in September still possible..

If this band sessions is THE band sessions, Its likely, but id its a band sessions... It means, if more work from them is needed in the future...

Yes, let's hope they can finish it immediately in 1 session (couple of weeks maybe)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: cannibals on March 18, 2014, 09:54:19 PM
Or october and november:)
And tour dates in september  ::)  :wave

There was a question about a week ago where Guy was asked about the new MK tour next year.
Guy: im not at liberty to say..........
This probably means they are planning the tour for 2015.......
He was much more clear about a tour in 2014. That was a simple No since we are now in the studio working on the album........  :wave
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Justme on March 19, 2014, 07:58:07 PM
Another yes!

 :wave
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on March 21, 2014, 10:32:32 AM
Band session at the end of april
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on March 21, 2014, 11:53:02 AM
Band session at the end of april

Seems quite late, lets see what happens ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Shoaib on March 31, 2014, 11:13:17 AM
MK/Guy Status
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Post by: ingridswing on March 31, 2014, 11:53:01 AM
LOL  ;D :D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Jarle on April 20, 2014, 06:08:25 PM
John McCusker on Twitter today:

Off to London for a few days to record with Mark Knopfler - really looking forward to seeing the gang again.

https://twitter.com/johnmccusker/status/457909959427366912

Things are happening :)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on April 20, 2014, 06:24:32 PM
thanks jarle, cool!

 :thumbsup

Please keep up posting here what he says, I am not able to follow him at the moment (a lot of computer crashing the last couple of days...)

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on April 20, 2014, 08:37:21 PM
Great news!    :D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on April 25, 2014, 03:37:27 PM
From John McCusker on Twitter today:


"Brilliant few days recording with Mark Knopfler."
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: MusicGirl1 on May 16, 2014, 02:21:49 PM
John McCusker on Twitter today:

Off to London for a few days to record with Mark Knopfler - really looking forward to seeing the gang again.

https://twitter.com/johnmccusker/status/457909959427366912

Things are happening :)

Good news. A new album in the works........?

Maaike
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: wayaman on May 16, 2014, 04:16:40 PM
John McCusker on Twitter today:

Off to London for a few days to record with Mark Knopfler - really looking forward to seeing the gang again.

https://twitter.com/johnmccusker/status/457909959427366912

Things are happening :)

Good news. A new album in the works........?

Maaike

Check Guy Fletcher site ans you will find even a Diary entry  :-)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: orphandog on May 16, 2014, 09:42:30 PM
That was cruel.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Pottel on May 17, 2014, 12:04:39 PM
that dan guy is really getting  on my nerves. now he attacked Jbaent for some spelling mistake.
idiot.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: wayaman on May 17, 2014, 04:36:09 PM
That was cruel.

My intention was to be informative.

About Dan, I mentioned him in the Guy's Forum thread, about claiming himself "Guard of the Ds & Mk,legacy. What can you say about such a fan...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on May 17, 2014, 05:39:51 PM
News from Richard:

http://richard-bennett.com/notes-from-nashville/550-springs-sprung

No mention about MK... That means he wasn't at the recording session?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on May 17, 2014, 07:14:21 PM
try this: http://fansite.richard-bennett.com/p/for-newly-blue-interview.html
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: brana on May 17, 2014, 10:36:05 PM
Can't wait for him to tour!!! Last time he was around I missed the chance to see him, I hope I will get another one.
Is there any information about what this new album will be like as in genre? If Knopfler could do a blues album that would be terrific.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on May 18, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
try this: http://fansite.richard-bennett.com/p/for-newly-blue-interview.html

1 year old?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on May 18, 2014, 11:44:57 AM
that dan guy is really getting  on my nerves. now he attacked Jbaent for some spelling mistake.
idiot.

I really wonder why there is so much fight lately at Guy's forum. Compared to that, AMIT is a place of pure freedom and happiness! Maybe Guy should really install some rules. It is quite annoying to read all this stuff all the time when you are just waiting for some interesting news...

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: holaknopfler on May 18, 2014, 12:44:57 PM
I really agree with you LE. It is quite disrespectful against Guy also!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: wayaman on May 18, 2014, 01:56:36 PM
That Dan looks have a different opinion judging his answer to Jules.

I dont like that Dan, looks like he things he's someone, like a vip or something in Guy's forum.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on May 18, 2014, 01:58:44 PM
Quote from: Dutchess nett.com/p/for-newly-blue-interview.html
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1 year old?
thought you were refering to richard's latest CD.   :-[  Sorry.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: MusicGirl1 on May 19, 2014, 04:09:56 PM
That was cruel.

My intention was to be informative.

About Dan, I mentioned him in the Guy's Forum thread, about claiming himself "Guard of the Ds & Mk,legacy. What can you say about such a fan...

Hold on folks.., no worries. I don't see this as cruel. I'll try and check out Guy's forum from time to time (don't have a lot of time to do so, but I will check it from time to time).

Maaike
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: ds1984 on May 19, 2014, 06:14:22 PM
DS legacy...

The best thing to honour this legacy would be Mark accepting to dig out all these hidden treasures and provide the old and new fans with the best source.
There are tons of stuff in the closet.
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Post by: LoveExpresso on May 19, 2014, 08:02:58 PM
Probably in 13 years - in 2027 we will have the Dire Straits 50's Anniversary.. and Mark is 78 then - still touring with Guy and Richard and Glen...  ;D

LE
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Post by: dmg on May 19, 2014, 08:26:22 PM
Probably in 13 years - in 2027 we will have the Dire Straits 50's Anniversary.. and Mark is 78 then - still touring with Guy and Richard and Glen...  ;D

LE

LOL.  Can you imagine the pace Sultans would be played at!  :lol
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on May 19, 2014, 08:34:35 PM
double fast with beats and grooves.  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on May 29, 2014, 10:31:18 AM
almost there.....

awaiting content now...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on May 29, 2014, 11:12:06 AM
Yeah saw that, too! So within no time (which means 4 to 6 weeks) we will get a new entry!!!  ;D ;D  :thumbsup :thumbsup

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on May 29, 2014, 01:31:32 PM
Yeah saw that, too! So within no time (which means 4 to 6 weeks) we will get a new entry!!!  ;D ;D  :thumbsup :thumbsup

LE

Indeed, can take some weeks. :-\
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Shai on May 29, 2014, 06:08:23 PM
Guys, listen up!!

   I was listening to a NYC rock station on Tuesday night, and right after they played SOS and WOL, the deejay said that "Mark Knopfler IS RELEASING A NEW ALBUM AT THE END OF SUMMER: 1!!!

  " It was the last day of summer..."

     Saul ::))
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on May 29, 2014, 06:34:51 PM
Guys, listen up!!

   I was listening to a NYC rock station on Tuesday night, and right after they played SOS and WOL, the deejay said that "Mark Knopfler IS RELEASING A NEW ALBUM AT THE END OF SUMMER: 1!!!

  " It was the last day of summer..."

     Saul ::))

Hope it's true...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: H97 on May 29, 2014, 07:12:30 PM
Isn't that the Cale tribute album?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on May 29, 2014, 07:16:45 PM
Too early for MK personal album ! Probably Cale because today  I just received confirmation about the record being delivered in August!
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Post by: wayaman on May 29, 2014, 07:18:40 PM
Guys, listen up!!

   I was listening to a NYC rock station on Tuesday night, and right after they played SOS and WOL, the deejay said that "Mark Knopfler IS RELEASING A NEW ALBUM AT THE END OF SUMMER: 1!!!

  " It was the last day of summer..."

     Saul ::))

And no offcial announcement yet?.

Guy said they are in the studio yet, but who knows. I guess the dj got confused with the J.J.Cale cd.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Vesper on June 11, 2014, 05:58:04 PM
It's been a week now since the "today or tomorrow for sure" statement.
Still no new diary entry online :(
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: wayaman on June 11, 2014, 07:33:02 PM
It's been a week now since the "today or tomorrow for sure" statement.
Still no new diary entry online :(

Thats rare, never happened before...

 ;D ;D ;D ;D :lol :lol :lol :lol  :disbelief :disbelief
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on June 11, 2014, 08:02:35 PM
It's been a week now since the "today or tomorrow for sure" statement.
Still no new diary entry online :(

Thats rare, never happened before...

 ;D ;D ;D ;D :lol :lol :lol :lol  :disbelief :disbelief

 :lol
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Vesper on June 12, 2014, 01:41:50 PM
UPDATE!!

Awaiting content...apologies for the delay, just awaiting a few images. I'll post tomorrow....hopefully.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: wayaman on June 12, 2014, 02:01:00 PM
UPDATE!!

Awaiting content...apologies for the delay, just awaiting a few images. I'll post tomorrow....hopefully.

So, in a week, hopefully  :lol
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Vesper on June 12, 2014, 02:12:05 PM
UPDATE!!

Awaiting content...apologies for the delay, just awaiting a few images. I'll post tomorrow....hopefully.

So, in a week, hopefully  :lol

haha,, you're probably right  ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Pottel on June 12, 2014, 07:44:46 PM
guss reads this every now and then...;-)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: wayaman on June 12, 2014, 07:54:26 PM
Hello Gee, don't update your diary or you will ruin our fun!

 :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on June 13, 2014, 05:09:22 PM
He will update tomorrow ;) He can leave that sentence there everyday...  ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: wayaman on June 13, 2014, 05:30:01 PM
He will update tomorrow ;) He can leave that sentence there everyday...  ;)

Stay Tuned is nicer ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: El Macho on June 14, 2014, 11:35:15 AM
Diary updated.
Nothing very interesting : violin, flute, accordion... the celtic roots are still present !
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on June 14, 2014, 12:24:48 PM
Who is the guy with the acoustic guitar??
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Post by: Guitarman1972 on June 14, 2014, 12:43:14 PM
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Who is the guy with the acoustic guitar??

Wondering about the same thing. He plays the fiddle too.  ???
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Guitarman1972 on June 14, 2014, 12:47:36 PM
Could it be Bruce Molsky?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/celticconnections/2012/concerts/transatlantic_sessions/03/
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on June 14, 2014, 12:58:34 PM
Could it be Bruce Molsky?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/celticconnections/2012/concerts/transatlantic_sessions/03/

great find, looks like him yes
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Guitarman1972 on June 14, 2014, 01:22:21 PM
I think we can assume that the new album has also alot of celtic influences. I really hoped for a more American Heartland sounding album, with country and bluegrass influences. My two favourite albums are On Every Street and Sailing To "Philly".. Would be nice if Jerry Douglas appears as guest on the album again. I absolutely love the sound of his weissenborn lapsteel and dobro.

Anyway, i think I am gonna check out the Transatlantic Sessions DVDs.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Transatlantic%20Sessions

For the ones who are not familiar with Jerry Douglas check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gukFvG8VbK4

Alison Krauss & Union Station Live Louisville 2002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKgTra0QldE

I also hope Mark will do a music project with banjoplayer Bela Fleck one day. (Stuart Duncan has Bela's phone number):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij3SA4HUTDo


Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: wayaman on June 14, 2014, 02:04:35 PM
MK reads this for sure. Every name we would like him to play with goes to his black list and calls other people that have nothing to do with our desires...

Clapton: Marky, do you want me to play in your record?
Knopfler: Nah, thats what people wants, I will call Bruce Molsky
Clapton: Bruce who?
Knopfler: Exactly
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: stratocasteph on June 14, 2014, 02:08:21 PM
Diary updated.
Nothing very interesting : violin, flute, accordion... the celtic roots are still present !
Oh no...Another McCusker-McGoldrick feat. Mark Knopfler record...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on June 14, 2014, 03:09:01 PM
Molsky seems to be in American  folk style Music more, so it might have a certain American flavour for sure.

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Justme on June 14, 2014, 03:45:55 PM
MK reads this for sure. Every name we would like him to play with goes to his black list and calls other people that have nothing to do with our desires...

Clapton: Marky, do you want me to play in your record?
Knopfler: Nah, thats what people wants, I will call Bruce Molsky
Clapton: Bruce who?
Knopfler: Exactly

 ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Guitarman1972 on June 14, 2014, 03:55:21 PM
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MK reads this for sure. Every name we would like him to play with goes to his black list and calls other people that have nothing to do with our desires...

How are you so sure? Think Mark isn't that interested in scrolling through forums tom read what the fans of his music think or hear the latest news about himself. I assume he'd be rather racing his wonderful Maserati, spending time with his lovely wife and keeping his company running properly. I have a strong feeling that Mark as employer feels very responsible for the people around him. You can make that up from his interviews and songs. He understands that people are in some way depended on him to get by financially. That the people have to make ends meet every month. And that he rather have as much people being part in the making other people happy business (entertaining industry) then in the making other people miserable business (militairy industry).

Besides that, Mark has his music "idols/inspirators" too. Hank Marvin, Chet Atkins, etc. I am sure that if Mark would know about Bela Fleck that he probably would be pleased to work with him. Or atleast interested. Personally i think they would connect very well musically as well as persons. For a musician it would be crazy to have a blacklist based on what fans would like. As a musician you need the skills of others too to get your music to a higher level and a new dimension. Mark is surrounded by the best of the best throughout the years. So why not Bela? I'm sure his sound and his strong melodic qualities would be very pleasant addition and variation to Mark his arrangements/songs. Mark knows like no other how important it is to change instruments and musicians. Or else every songs would start to sound about the same.

Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Guitarman1972 on June 14, 2014, 04:08:36 PM
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Oh no...Another McCusker-McGoldrick feat. Mark Knopfler record...

Yep, a slide guitar album featuring Sonny Landreth, Jerry Douglas, Derek Trucks, Bela Fleck, Paul Franklin etc. would be nicer, but hey we can't have everything in life, hey? But we can surely dream about it!   :D

On the other hand nothing wrong with musicians like McGoldrick...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: H97 on June 14, 2014, 07:23:10 PM
Eh, why is someone who isn't MK or Richard holding a guitar there?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Throttle on June 14, 2014, 11:26:47 PM
Glenn became old...
Always is in the sidelines. Such a wise and good-natured person with radiant eyes. Love him.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Jarle on June 15, 2014, 12:53:00 PM
A new and more interesting update is out :)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on June 15, 2014, 01:14:50 PM
Ruth Moody again :)

And it seems they have quite a lot of songs ready now?

Still some questions... Will there be another band session for more songs? Or is it waiting for some overdubs, then mixing and releasing?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: wayaman on June 15, 2014, 01:24:00 PM
Nigel Hitchcock was there too...

I understand they are comping, recording overdubs and at the same time recording more songs, so I guess this is far for being ready to release.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on June 15, 2014, 01:28:31 PM
Nigel Hitchcock was there too...

I understand they are comping, recording overdubs and at the same time recording more songs, so I guess this is far for being ready to release.

Is there a difference between comping and mixing?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on June 15, 2014, 01:47:14 PM
I would say comping means choosing the best results from different and many recordings - takes - and taking the best ones. For example Mark can sing his vocal part several times and the final choice then is built, combined, - or comped - from these recordings... (I remember some discussion some years ago that you could clearly hear on the the track "The Ragpicker's Dream" where the different vocal parts were ... I listened a dozen times but was not able to make out where the differences were..  ;D) So different guitar parts, different drum parts and so on, listening to them in a row the whole day (which is what they did obviously on the famous Ragpicker diary picture on the London roof in the sun, you remember) - taking final decisions, discussing...

mixing then is purely a question of mixing the final tracks together, volume, fades, dynamics and stuff.

Any better explanations welcome!  :wave

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: singv on June 15, 2014, 02:41:21 PM
Anybody know about Mr Molsky's guitar work? I've never heard him, nor of him.  After so many years of the trusty Dick Bennett in the line up, I cannot picture a new face on Mark's left side. Ianto replacing DC didn't seem to bother me as much as this one does. Maybe we're just creatures of habit and got too used to seeing "one big family" on the stage...I sure hope Dick is back soon.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on June 15, 2014, 02:51:49 PM
Mr. Molsky playing on the album does not automatically mean him playing in the live band, too. Remember Richard was also not playing on Kill To Get Crimson but was in the band later nevertheless. Although I find it strange also not to see Richard in the band, after all those years...

Sometimes it could come from the Musician himself. We all think MK is the big Muso boss. But it is also quite exhausting to do these tours with him. Maybe Richard just said "leave me out the next time please, I need some time to refresh" The same with Danny, maybe he even recommended Ian as the best drummer of the UK...

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: yontwocrows on June 15, 2014, 03:37:43 PM
I hope that Richard will be part of the tour / or other recording sessions. And this answer on Guy's forum gives hope. Seems that Mark is doing the most guitar related stuff. It's not a replacement of Richard. I guess that Mr Molsky is more into fiddle and banjo.

Q: Richard Bennett is not in the pics, and his blogs writes about other recordings at the moment. Who is the new guitar player?    
A: A guy called Mark
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: wayaman on June 15, 2014, 03:47:38 PM
A Chris Whitten quote from other thread posted by Dusty comes to mind, when Whitten said Paul Franklin was very worried about all the recording sessions he was missing while touring with Dire Straits...

Obviously Mk tours are not so demanding, but its also several months of missing recording sessions for all the American musicians, specially Richard Bennett. Maybe he was just busy to take some time recording in London, maybe Mk decided to record all guitars by himself again (as with Ktgc), but I'd say Richard will be back on tour, as its planned such in advance that he can schedule all his Nashville sessions and not miss too much work.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: sailtekxo on June 15, 2014, 05:53:27 PM
It's also interesting that Jim isn't there -- so Guy must be playing all the keyboard parts by himself. Just another similarity to KTGC, isn't it?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: surferboy on June 15, 2014, 06:11:30 PM
Guy didn't give away any info on why there was only one band session of just one week given that they started work on the new album back in September. For me the absence of Jim is a far bigger question than the absence of Richard since Mark repeatedly praised Jim while one tour: "always new all the time". The whole new album project is still one big mystery to me and things have not been any clearer after the second diary entry.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: yontwocrows on June 15, 2014, 06:39:56 PM
That's right, we have only a few informations what's going on all the time.
But I'm now 100% convinced that it's not hard rock or metal, rap, hip hop and house  ;D

@wayaman: the '92 tour was something else, nowadays we're talking about a few months and Richard has already done it severall times. So i doubt that missing recording sessions is the reason... We'll see. Curious!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on June 15, 2014, 07:05:08 PM
Yes, I'm confined now that this album is going to be 100% celtic songs with zero guitar or vocals from our man.  Just "fiddle-dee-dee" celtic music.  Maybe the first Knopfler record I won't buy.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: yontwocrows on June 15, 2014, 07:36:22 PM
Maybe the first Knopfler record I won't buy.

dmg, do you take a bet on this?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: kaleo74 on June 15, 2014, 07:38:49 PM
I have the filling that it will be THE album... don't know why, maybe a STP 2 album, Bruce Molsky, Rooth, Sax trumpet, "more experimentations" good ingredients for a "gorgeous" album.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 15, 2014, 07:53:51 PM
Yes, I'm confined now that this album is going to be 100% celtic songs with zero guitar or vocals from our man.  Just "fiddle-dee-dee" celtic music.  Maybe the first Knopfler record I won't buy.

But then the blues songs on the last record were boring, so we can't have it both ways...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: straitsway75 on June 15, 2014, 08:04:50 PM
Hi folks,
just an info: have you problems into Guy site if you got a smartphone? because when I go into with it I see only the artwork of site and is impossible read anything.

Thanks
sTRAITSWAY75
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: ds1984 on June 15, 2014, 08:14:10 PM
Yes, I'm confined now that this album is going to be 100% celtic songs with zero guitar or vocals from our man.  Just "fiddle-dee-dee" celtic music.  Maybe the first Knopfler record I won't buy.

You Can't Judge a Book by the Cover.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lch0o4wwGyw
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on June 15, 2014, 08:17:07 PM
Ha ha, when seeing Mr. Molsky I immediately imagined a 5 minute longer version of Marbletown with another fiddle duel... and boom, there was the picture of dmg in my head, looking  :-X

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on June 15, 2014, 08:29:32 PM
Maybe the first Knopfler record I won't buy.

dmg, do you take a bet on this?

Hmm...no!  :lol
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on June 15, 2014, 08:32:15 PM
Ha ha, when seeing Mr. Molsky I immediately imagined a 5 minute longer version of Marbletown with another fiddle duel... and boom, there was the picture of dmg in my head, looking  :-X

LE

 :lol

Think I would have to make that my pee break then!  :smack
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on June 15, 2014, 10:15:29 PM
I would say comping means choosing the best results from different and many recordings - takes - and taking the best ones. For example Mark can sing his vocal part several times and the final choice then is built, combined, - or comped - from these recordings... (I remember some discussion some years ago that you could clearly hear on the the track "The Ragpicker's Dream" where the different vocal parts were ... I listened a dozen times but was not able to make out where the differences were..  ;D) So different guitar parts, different drum parts and so on, listening to them in a row the whole day (which is what they did obviously on the famous Ragpicker diary picture on the London roof in the sun, you remember) - taking final decisions, discussing...

mixing then is purely a question of mixing the final tracks together, volume, fades, dynamics and stuff.

Any better explanations welcome!  :wave

LE

yes that's it
coming is "compiling" different takes to make the final one. Of course you can't hear the edits, otherwise it would mean they had been in a bad way !

David Gilmour uses this technique for almost all his guitar solos : what you hear in the final mix is a "compilation" of different takes.
He records several takes, and then on the mixing desk, he switches from one to another, choosing the best part of each take
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 16, 2014, 12:35:09 AM
That video of the Thomas Dolby session demonstrated comping pretty well.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: CarrionSpy on June 16, 2014, 01:38:53 PM
Hello!

Do you know if this album will be the first without Chuck Ainlay after so many years?  :hmm I cannot find him in the diary and if you look to the old recording sessions he is always present on the band sessions.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: foma on June 16, 2014, 02:46:09 PM
@ CarrionSpy
It can't be. I think there is more chances for a solo album with MK and a guitar only rather than MK working without Chuck. He's The Boss!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Guitarman1972 on June 16, 2014, 05:54:01 PM
Quote
Do you know if this album will be the first without Chuck Ainlay after so many years?

Chuck might not be at the helmet doing the recording and co-producing at the moment, but I think at a certain point Mark will call in Chuck to do the final mix. After that it probably goes to Bob Ludwig again for the mastering. Though I wish this time the mastering engineer is conservative with the compression. The amount of compression these days on Mark's albums are horrible. I reallly wish one day the real dynamics come back. Sonically the early Dire Straits albums are such joy to listen too. Listening to overcompressed albums can be very tiring.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: foma on June 16, 2014, 09:48:58 PM
Actually Guy said right in the diary that it was him in the control room for this particular recording session.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: wayaman on June 16, 2014, 11:31:44 PM
I recall a video of a presentation of something at British Grove, and Chuck was there, at the same time that Mk was working on his songs.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dannr1 on June 17, 2014, 11:23:45 AM
I think MK has become more and more predictable.. It worked well with Ruth on a couple of songs previously, lets bring her in again, seemingly the same with Nigel, was the same with Mike Mc a few years back..Chances are we will then get much of the same sound we have been used to over the last couple of years and nothing that stands out as very new and exciting (regardless of Molsky which fits well into MKs current line-up and sound).
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on June 17, 2014, 10:16:52 PM
I recall a video of a presentation of something at British Grove, and Chuck was there, at the same time that Mk was working on his songs.

yes the one on bonus disc from the get lucky box set edition
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on June 17, 2014, 10:19:26 PM
I think MK has become more and more predictable..

so true, sadly true
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on June 17, 2014, 10:27:24 PM
I recall a video of a presentation of something at British Grove, and Chuck was there, at the same time that Mk was working on his songs.

yes the one on bonus disc from the get lucky box set edition

Not so sure, JF. I remember another, not-MK-related video on youtube some months ago where Chuck was at some presentation or something. We all thought hey, Chuck is there, it was later than October 2013, work on the new album had already begun then. Cannot find it.

 
EDIT: Found it! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guywOLCv_4M

Already hated that Wow WOW WWOOWWW line at the first time I heard it..  ;D

Talking about British Grove, there are some new videos (two months old) from Christina Ricci playing live at BG on the piano, obviously some tracks from her latest album.

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: wayaman on June 17, 2014, 10:41:54 PM
I recall a video of a presentation of something at British Grove, and Chuck was there, at the same time that Mk was working on his songs.

yes the one on bonus disc from the get lucky box set edition

No, during this recording sessions, this video is from February 2014

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guywOLCv_4M
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on June 17, 2014, 10:46:49 PM
Exactly!  ;D

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: cannibals on June 18, 2014, 04:38:23 PM
Reading the update in the diary from Guy there is no Richard Bennet there at BG to record the new album. I've asked Guy if Richard will be there the next time they go on tour. Guy has deleted my question and did also not posted my qustion on his forum, also no PM..
Makes me wonder if Richard is stil in MK's band  :think :think :think  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: CarrionSpy on June 18, 2014, 05:54:02 PM
Guy confirms that Chuck is not involved in this recording session
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Pottel on June 18, 2014, 09:11:43 PM
which does not mean he will not tour.
he is a well booked session man. may be too busy now.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: cannibals on June 18, 2014, 10:05:12 PM
which does not mean he will not tour.
he is a well booked session man. may be too busy now.

That i can understand but i wonder what is the reason why he will not post my question....
I get the impression there is something more going on......
A simple answer would have done it....
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Guitarman1972 on June 18, 2014, 10:46:42 PM
Cannibals, i think Guy just doesn't know. On his website he also mentioned that there are no plans for a tour at the moment. Besides that Richard has probably his own projects going right now and might have declined a request by Mark to take part in the recording of a new MK album. Anyway, does it really matter? Mark is always able to surround himself with top musicians. For me it is mainly about his songwriting, vocals, guitarstyle and sound. With Mark that will always be the same.

Personally, i actually like a change in the line up from time to time. New blood means often new/fresh ideas and sound. Have a big dream (wish) though. A MK slide guitar album, with guests like Sonny Landreth, Jerry Douglas, Derek Trucks, Bela Fleck, Ry Cooder, Chris Rea, Jeff Beck, Paul Franklin (box)... even though that will never happen.. the dream is still beautiful. :-)

By the way guys and gals ever heard of Nelly Niel (aka Andrew Niel):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PnIu1hd4q0
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Lestroid on June 19, 2014, 08:38:37 PM
I doubt that Bruce Molskey would replace Richard on tour.  It seems like Bruce's role is more like Tim O'Brien, a multi-instrumentalist who specializes in American folk music and plays strictly acoustic guitar, along with the other stringed things.  MK may be playing all electric guitars on the new album, especially if they are recording in separate tracks, rather than live, in which case Richard's participation is not necessary. But Richard, or someone with his playing ability, would be necessary when performing live.  Richard plays guitar in a way that is very complimentary to Mark's playing, in terms of tone and style.  I can't imagine that he would be replaced by an accoustic specialist.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on June 19, 2014, 08:50:29 PM
I guess you are right. What I find interesting, maybe strange and quite alarming is a second fiddle... only reason for this is Mike playing flute and John cittern... I mean there is a violin in the band with John McCusker...
I have a certain "Speedway Of Nazareth" expectation when I read about Molsky's roots in Americana..

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Lestroid on June 19, 2014, 09:53:51 PM
Regarding the release date - does anyone think that the delayed release of Privateering in the US will affect the release date of this new project?  The new label just released an MK double album in Sept '13 - will they want to wait more than a year to release a new title?

For what it's worth, I am quite certain that MK will never discuss in public any dispute with a record company.  But a couple of the songs on Privateeing seem to give some insight into his thoughts.  The lyrics to "Don't forget your hat" sound a lot like the expression from the American south "Don't let the door hit you on the way out" which is said when you are glad to be rid of someone you don't like.  The rest of the lyrics support that thought.  That sentiment could apply to a record company executive with whom you are having a dispute. Also the song Privateering, especially given that it is the title song, celebrates the idea of being your own boss or the captain of your little ship, as Mark has said before.
 
Anyway, sorry to get off topic.  But as much as I hope this new album is released in the fall, I wonder if the delayed US release of the last album could have an effect on this album's release, regardless of whether it is technically complete or not, simply for marketing reasons.  I guess it would depend on how big his US market is vs the rest of the world.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Pottel on June 20, 2014, 01:04:26 AM
guess ROW sales are more important to Mark then pure US sales. just guessing here though..
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: TJ on June 20, 2014, 05:09:28 PM
Does anyone remember the name of the "multi-instrumentalist" that was to tour with MK during the ill-fated Ragpicker's Dream tour?  He had a bio on MKNews for a while.  Kind of a flaky-looking character,IMO.  Can't remember his name though.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on June 20, 2014, 05:44:07 PM
Does anyone remember the name of the "multi-instrumentalist" that was to tour with MK during the ill-fated Ragpicker's Dream tour?  He had a bio on MKNews for a while.  Kind of a flaky-looking character,IMO.  Can't remember his name though.

Fats Kaplin.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on June 20, 2014, 07:47:41 PM
Next question.

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: rosco on June 21, 2014, 10:48:20 AM
I was assuming the new album wouldn't be out till next year but Guy answered - "could be" to the question posed of album coming out this year and tour next year..........  hopefully!!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: cannibals on June 22, 2014, 03:34:12 PM
If you read between the lines in some of Guy's answers you can for sure say there will be a new tour in 2015. I think the new album will come a little later than we are used to from MK. Perhaps somwhere at the end of of this year.... :wave
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on June 22, 2014, 05:33:54 PM
The album could come out next year and the tour immediately following it's release.  Similar to the old days (although BIA/OES tours started before the albums were released so audiences only knew the first single).

Or, I don't see the big delay in completion of the album in the studio and release date.  Isn't this just usually to arrange artwork and to wait for a suitable release time to get best sales?  If it's finished at the right time and they're already working on artwork anyway then just get it out there!  No reason for waiting months.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: wayaman on June 22, 2014, 06:43:31 PM
Guy suggested that they are still working, and summer holydays are around the corner, I dont think the work is completed before.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on June 22, 2014, 07:49:06 PM
Back in 2007 I asked Guy about this mysterious 5 to 6 months gap between mixing and releasing an album, he passed that question on to PC, and here is what he answered:

That's a very good question, one for Paul Crockford, Mark's manager. Here's his reply - In answer to your fan question the delay is in order to get the record out to long lead time press and the rest of the media with plenty of time for them to consider the record for reviews and TV and radio play. In addition the manufacturing and distribution for a worldwide simultaneous release takes some considerable length of time to co-ordinate in order to make sure that the record gets into every market on the day of release.

My guess is that we might have a spring 2015 release like with Golden Heart or All The Road Running - releasing in March maybe. The tour dates could be announced earlier nevertheless. I am not sure 100 % but we had the case of buying tickets without knowing the actual promoted record, hadn't we? I remember
RAH tickets to be announced VERY early last time, or was it 2010... So concert dates announcment Oct/Nov, release in March, presale starts March, too, tour starts end of April and Bob's your uncle...

I would prefer a Oct/Nov 2014 release however. It all goes off from our lifetime, you know..

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: wayaman on June 22, 2014, 09:04:28 PM
How it happened with "All the roadrunning"? I recall the cd came out in around march 2006 and the tour started late april, but can recall when the tour dates were announced.

Gh dates were announced before but it was in early internet times so most of us knew about them when buying the cd as the dates were in the jewel case, and the tour started very close to the release date too.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on July 18, 2014, 11:00:31 PM
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6PiUzZH6fo


As it is all so awfully quiet (and hot) these days, I thought why not listen to this again - with the view of maybe having a "proper" studio recording of it on the new album with much better vocals nowadays... I love this song, just listened to it three or four times in a row... although the sound quality is pretty bad (is there a better version available?).. but it was everything that reminds me so much of all my favourite MK ingredients.. those pedal steel, these drums... a little bit Long Highway flavour.. love it!

Hope Guy will come up with some news sooner or later...

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on July 18, 2014, 11:13:43 PM
According to McCusker's twitter, Guy and the Mcs are playing with Vicente Amigo these days...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on July 19, 2014, 08:51:06 PM
According to McCusker's twitter, Guy and the Mcs are playing with Vicente Amigo these days...

Is that a bad thing?   ;D

Seriously, I think it's perhaps due to the imminent Transatlantic Sessions.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: wayaman on July 21, 2014, 03:37:01 PM
It means that Guy is busy.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: surferboy on August 15, 2014, 03:17:28 PM
I'm searching for ideas what it could mean that it will soon be almost a year since Mark and Guy started work in the studio and that there have been relatively few band sessions (even only one?) accompanying that work. Guy just stated that he and Mark would finish up alone after returning to the sudio in September. Unless we have been left in the dark concerning more band visits to BG, can we expect a very stripped down almost accoustic sounding record? Could that also explain the absence of Richard and Chuck?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Pottel on August 15, 2014, 03:32:28 PM
i wouldn't mind a more acoustic album...as long as guitar is clearly on it.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: vgonis on August 18, 2014, 04:04:41 PM
And maybe a surprise guitar duel with EC?  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: wayaman on August 18, 2014, 06:21:51 PM
And maybe a surprise guitar duel with EC?  ;D

Of course it will be a surprise...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: JF on August 18, 2014, 07:38:06 PM
Guy said that EC did NOT play on Mark's songs
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Pottel on August 18, 2014, 07:52:32 PM
Guy said that EC did NOT play on Mark's songs
yep, like he has done so many times in the past, denying things that then DID happen anyways? it is more like he is not allowed to say anything...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on August 18, 2014, 08:56:08 PM

yep, like he has done so many times in the past, denying things that then DID happen anyways? 
[/quote]

Not too sure about it. Keeping quiet about details, yes, but denying things that DID happen, I cannot remember...

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: surferboy on October 08, 2014, 12:22:29 PM
Under the news section on his webside Guy states that the Tracker album is now finished!
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on October 08, 2014, 12:56:24 PM
Under the news section on his webside Guy states that the Tracker album is now finished!

Wohooooo!!!

I hope that they can soon tell us more details, tracklist, different editions etc...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: yontwocrows on October 08, 2014, 01:10:33 PM
Can't find it. Which new section are you talkin about?  ???
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on October 08, 2014, 01:39:19 PM
Guy
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: yontwocrows on October 08, 2014, 01:50:10 PM
Thanks, found it. Sounds good. You think there'll be a diary update?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Silvertown on October 08, 2014, 05:37:44 PM
And there is a text: "2015 TOUR DATES are now being announced". All of them? So no RAH?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: knopfling on October 09, 2014, 08:05:41 PM
Doesn't it say "just ABOUT finished?" That's not quite the same as finished.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: nababo on October 10, 2014, 05:17:25 PM
Under the news section on his webside Guy states that the Tracker album is now finished!

So, five more months until it's released?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on October 10, 2014, 05:21:44 PM
Where have you been. Release date is January 2015.

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: nababo on October 10, 2014, 05:57:25 PM
Where have you been. Release date is January 2015.

LE

Sorry, my bad.  :smack I was really out of the list for a while.  :wave But look the other way: you made your good action of the day telling me that there is indeed a release date!  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on October 10, 2014, 06:08:49 PM
I know where your question comes from nababo because there used to be this usual 5 to 6 months time gap between finishing the album and release date. In fact, it was only stated "early 2015" and some website said January 2015, but I would not be astonished if it turns out to be February, maybe end of February..
however, it is October now, so it all goes pretty quick! Album name released, tour dates released.. but no track list left because they are still mixing.
Unusual compared to earlier releases.

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: ds1984 on October 10, 2014, 08:33:02 PM
I know where your question comes from nababo because there used to be this usual 5 to 6 months time gap between finishing the album and release date. In fact, it was only stated "early 2015" and some website said January 2015, but I would not be astonished if it turns out to be February, maybe end of February..
however, it is October now, so it all goes pretty quick! Album name released, tour dates released.. but no track list left because they are still mixing.
Unusual compared to earlier releases.

LE

Internet time.

I can't imagine what would have happened in '95...
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on November 13, 2014, 11:12:59 PM
http://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/index.php/2014mkrecording/2014StudioDiary3
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Dutchessy on November 14, 2014, 12:41:17 AM
http://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/index.php/2014mkrecording/2014StudioDiary3

Hmm, not very interesting... nicest sounding album, he says that every album ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on November 14, 2014, 07:46:55 AM
True, Dutchessy.

And he makes it completely sound as a pure technical process. Fair enough, as he engineered it completely, but I guess 80 % of the diary readers are looking for something different when awaiting the latest content.

I wrote it earlier that, for my impression, Guy was extremely reluctant, low-key, very reserved when it came to speaking about the recording and album.

I wonder if I only was not allowed to or if he really and honestly utters what he feels like - just a another job to do, no surprises to expect, let's concentrate on the wonderland of British Grove when the material is the usual stuff...

I understand the "touching" sentence from Bob Ludwig as a judgement of the "recording work", not of the work itself.

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: superval99 on November 14, 2014, 10:33:40 AM
 Strangely, I can't find Tracker Studio Diary 3, except from the above link!    Have I missed something, somewhere?    :hmm     

EDIT:   Problem solved!     I changed 2 to 3 in the web address!   :thumbsup
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on November 14, 2014, 12:23:41 PM
Its not linked in the diary page yet so I assume is just a draft.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: olazabalrok on November 14, 2014, 07:58:14 PM
Guy has removed the content, anybody happened to copy whatever was on there?
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: foma on November 14, 2014, 08:28:26 PM
Lol you shouldn't be there! Guy's sense of humour is priceless.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on November 14, 2014, 08:49:53 PM
So greetings to the good Doc if he reads THIS!  :wave

LE
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: foma on November 14, 2014, 09:00:26 PM
Technically he could be told by Dan about anomal activity on unpublished diary page.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: dmg on November 14, 2014, 10:50:29 PM
Guy has removed the content, anybody happened to copy whatever was on there?

Something about "best sounding recording ever" then "best studio ever" followed by "best album ever."  ;)
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: jbaent on November 15, 2014, 01:13:59 PM
Basically it said that they sent the songs to Bob Ludwig to do the mastering and bob sent it back mastered with a note remarking how nice it sounded.

Also that it sounds so well because the clasp system that allow them to record on analogue tape and put it on a hard disk immediately and that he did the whole engineering of the new cd without Chuck help, assisted by the in house engineers of British grove to which he is very grateful.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: Fletch on December 05, 2014, 11:24:17 PM
I do love the pictures of the studio gear, especially those old 'Abbey Road' mixer faders :)
Nice pic of Mark & Glynn too.
Title: Re: 2014 MK RECORDING DIARY
Post by: LoveExpresso on December 06, 2014, 06:49:13 AM
Fletch, I thought the same and was thinking about the Privateering booklet - there the pictures were also shot by Guy. These new ones have the high quality to be put into the Tracker Booklet, too. Maybe we will see one or the other. Always hope for an inforamtive, nice and commented boolet. Loved the Shangri-La comments by Mark, same with Get Lucky. Relating to this, the Privateering one was, apart from the great pics, rather disappointing.

LE