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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: jbaent on September 23, 2014, 06:20:02 PM

Title: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: jbaent on September 23, 2014, 06:20:02 PM
http://exclaim.ca/News/bryan_ferry_gets_johnny_marr_flea_mark_knopfler_for_avonmore_lp_shares_new_single (http://exclaim.ca/News/bryan_ferry_gets_johnny_marr_flea_mark_knopfler_for_avonmore_lp_shares_new_single)

Would it be new or material from the Boys and Girls sessions? Guy Pratt (Pink Floyd bassist) tells in his book that Ferry had many many reels of tape with Knopfler and Gilmour playing unused from that sessions...
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: Dutchessy on September 23, 2014, 06:23:25 PM
http://exclaim.ca/News/bryan_ferry_gets_johnny_marr_flea_mark_knopfler_for_avonmore_lp_shares_new_single (http://exclaim.ca/News/bryan_ferry_gets_johnny_marr_flea_mark_knopfler_for_avonmore_lp_shares_new_single)

Would it be new or material from the Boys and Girls sessions? Guy Pratt (Pink Floyd bassist) tells in his book that Ferry had many many reels of tape with Knopfler and Gilmour playing unused from that sessions...

Maybe thats the one Guy Fletcher is mixing right now...
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: jbaent on September 23, 2014, 06:35:26 PM
Produced by Bryan Ferry and Rhett Davies and mixed by Craig Silvey, Avonmore will be released on Monday November 17th on Vinyl, CD and Digital editions.

From http://www.bryanferry.com/new-bryan-ferry-album-avonmore/ (http://www.bryanferry.com/new-bryan-ferry-album-avonmore/)
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: rudiger on September 23, 2014, 06:38:51 PM
snippets on Amazon uk

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=sr_nr_seeall_2?rh=k%3Abryan+ferry+avonmore%2Ci%3Adigital-music&keywords=bryan+ferry+avonmore&ie=UTF8&qid=1411309104 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=sr_nr_seeall_2?rh=k%3Abryan+ferry+avonmore%2Ci%3Adigital-music&keywords=bryan+ferry+avonmore&ie=UTF8&qid=1411309104)
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: jbaent on September 23, 2014, 07:02:25 PM
There is a guitar partin "Soldier of fortune" that could be MK, also in "Lost"...
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: Dutchessy on September 23, 2014, 07:05:22 PM
There is a guitar partin "Soldier of fortune" that could be MK, also in "Lost"...

Soldier of Fortune reminds me of 'inamorata'
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: JF on September 23, 2014, 07:10:43 PM
Guy Pratt (Pink Floyd bassist) tells in his book that Ferry had many many reels of tape with Knopfler and Gilmour playing unused from that sessions...

does it mean they could have played together during these sessions ?.... :P
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: jbaent on September 23, 2014, 07:17:26 PM
Guy Pratt (Pink Floyd bassist) tells in his book that Ferry had many many reels of tape with Knopfler and Gilmour playing unused from that sessions...

does it mean they could have played together during these sessions ?.... :P

Not exactly. Guy Pratt says in his book that Ferry gave him lots of tape parts to play bass over them and he says that they were literally pieces of tape pasted between them with several people playing and he had many pieces of Knopfler, many pieces of Gilmour, a nightmare...
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: foma on September 23, 2014, 07:31:05 PM
I always had a kind of feeling that Mark's liks were used in Don't Stop The Dance, but everybody, including Guy, tells it wasn't. How can they say it since it was a mess even back then? :lol
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: JF on September 26, 2014, 10:44:21 AM
MKnews updated today :

"BRYAN FERRY: Reports that Mark is to feature on a new Bryan Ferry album are incorrect. (26/09/14)"

http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/news.html (http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/news.html)
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: jbaent on September 26, 2014, 11:01:30 AM
MKnews updated today :

"BRYAN FERRY: Reports that Mark is to feature on a new Bryan Ferry album are incorrect. (26/09/14)"

http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/news.html (http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/news.html)

Quite interesting since Bryan Ferry
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: JF on September 26, 2014, 11:34:06 AM
hey jbaent I just noticed you got the same status as Pottel....
congratulations ! :clap

but how can we have several THE sultan of swing ? :hmm :lol
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: jbaent on September 26, 2014, 11:35:43 AM
hey jbaent I just noticed you got the same status as Pottel....
congratulations ! :clap

but how can we have several THE sultan of swing ? :hmm :lol

I knew that one day or another someone will notice that Pottel and I we are the same person

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: superval99 on September 26, 2014, 11:46:23 AM
There's only one solution - Pottel will have to change his status, but to what?    Suggestions, please!     :think
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: Dutchessy on September 26, 2014, 12:41:09 PM
There's only one solution - Pottel will have to change his status, but to what?    Suggestions, please!     :think

The Romeo Pisser
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: jbaent on September 26, 2014, 01:13:16 PM
There's only one solution - Pottel will have to change his status, but to what?    Suggestions, please!     :think

The Very Own Mark Knopfler
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: JF on September 26, 2014, 02:25:27 PM
There's only one solution - Pottel will have to change his status, but to what?    Suggestions, please!     :think

The Romeo Pisser

I like it  :thumbsup  :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: dmg on September 26, 2014, 07:15:15 PM
There's only one solution - Pottel will have to change his status, but to what?    Suggestions, please!     :think

The Very Own Mark Knopfler

The Bug.  After his avatar and the song.
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: LoveExpresso on September 26, 2014, 08:05:49 PM
Mark.

LE
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: superval99 on September 27, 2014, 09:09:58 AM
"He's the man"     :)
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: Pottel on September 28, 2014, 12:58:39 PM
you was sayin'??
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: rudiger on November 19, 2014, 12:58:24 PM
Here you can listen to the whole album

http://www.npr.org/2014/11/09/361384563/first-listen-bryan-ferry-avonmore (http://www.npr.org/2014/11/09/361384563/first-listen-bryan-ferry-avonmore)
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: foma on November 19, 2014, 01:59:18 PM
Yeah, also here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk2KHlEbcpg

Song 'With Mark' is from 24:35, what do you think? Sounds like some 80s Boys And Girls samples maybe.
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: yontwocrows on November 19, 2014, 07:11:10 PM
I listened to it three day ago, but honestly i don't get if there is anything by Mark. Officially the management said that there is no involvement of MK, still Bryan Ferry claimed that there are contributions, and we suppose that he uses old samples. That's too much confusion for me. Listened to it and can't find the tipical MK style...
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: border_reiver on November 20, 2014, 02:02:07 PM
At 1:27 and 1:31 on "Lost" there's that snapping Knopfleresque "spanish strike". And that would probably indicate much older stuff.

For Spotify users:

http://open.spotify.com/track/5XGIUeWA279xPm6vKrwo9I (http://open.spotify.com/track/5XGIUeWA279xPm6vKrwo9I)
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: LoveExpresso on November 22, 2014, 10:29:17 PM
From MKNews:

 Bryan has sampled Mark's nylon guitar work from an earlier album on the song Lost on his new album, Avonmore. (updated: 21/11/14)

LE
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: jbaent on November 23, 2014, 12:21:42 PM
From MKNews:

 Bryan has sampled Mark's nylon guitar work from an earlier album on the song Lost on his new album, Avonmore. (updated: 21/11/14)

LE

I knew it, as I mentioned in previous posts, In Guy Pratt's book he said he recorded back in 1985 bass and other arrangements in tapes by Bryan Ferry full of guitars by Mark Knopfler and David Gilmour and ither people, I suspect that this new record might contain some of that old Mk guitar parts as Mknew said there was no involvement by MK in the recird, and I was right  ;D
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: yontwocrows on November 23, 2014, 01:26:07 PM
Gratulations, jbaent. Thanks for information, LE and Border Reiver. Yes, you're right. Hm, kind of weird that a 30 year old track appears again within a different context.
I'm not sure if i like that. Sure, there are a lot of good samples out there, and the process of forming a complete new piece of music of sound material is creative, interesting and exciting. Still i love the old school approach of musicians playing together. Thats also the reason why i love live recordings. It's a conservation of singularity, a try to grab unforgetable moments that cannot be reproduced...
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: jbaent on November 23, 2014, 06:28:14 PM
Funny thing is that the song is not 30 years old, it's Knopfler's guitar parts what is 30 years old, who knows when Bryan Ferry wrote the song, but it's nice that he rescued MK guitars from so many years ago.
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: jbaent on November 24, 2014, 10:10:36 AM
The song LOST with Mark Knopfler
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: peterromer on December 08, 2014, 03:17:17 PM
Thanks for tips regarding the Avalon, the track Loop De Li is great as well, even though MK is not there.  ;)
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 01, 2022, 12:17:10 PM
This passed me by at the time.

MK was big into the nylon string guitar the time.
Title: Re: MK on new Bryan Ferry cd
Post by: jbaent on March 01, 2022, 12:30:05 PM
This passed me by at the time.

MK was big into the nylon string guitar the time.

In the Guy Pratt book, he says he did a kind of audition for Bryan Ferry, consisting on play along many parts of not used guitar parts from MK and David Gilmour from the "Boys and Girls" sessions.

That song from Bryan Ferry is for sure from one of that parts Pratt mentioned.