A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: dustyvalentino on December 16, 2008, 04:22:40 PM
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I thought it would be useful to have a thread to discuss MK related items you spot on ebay. So this could include:
Items you have won.
Items that may be of interest to others.
Items that have now sold, but may be of interest due to the fact that they are rare/unusual.
For me, somebody got a bragain with this one:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Stratocaster-signed-by-Mark-Knopfler_W0QQitemZ320322593006QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item320322593006&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A13%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
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i thought this would be about bootleg sellers on ebay.
can we have that on here too?
also saw a guy on the dutch version of ebay, "marktplaats.nl" offering tons of bootlegs, for a shitload of money, and they weren't even special.
could not find a "report" button...anyone knows??
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Sure, all ebay related topics here.
I haven't reported for a while, will need to see if I can remember how to do it.
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i thought this would be about bootleg sellers on ebay.
can we have that on here too?
also saw a guy on the dutch version of ebay, "marktplaats.nl" offering tons of bootlegs, for a shitload of money, and they weren't even special.
could not find a "report" button...anyone knows??
In the detail page of every single offer on marktplaats.nl you can press the line "in strijd met de regels" to report. But don't waste your time too much with that, marktplaats.nl is NOT like Ebay:
no registration of sellers (so after a removal due to your report the seller is back in a second)
no time limited offers
no legal obligations, the seller can refuse to sell even if you are the highest bidder, the bidder can withdraw anytime he wants
etc.etc.etc. it's a jungle....I used to buy there quite some items but only from known sellers
Best wishes,
Waldo
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There seems to be a "report" button at the bottom of this page:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/bootlegs.html
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Oops, thought you were talking about ebay.
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I can't believe that no-one snapped this one up. Looks like an MK version of GI Joe.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=290281528573
On second thoughts maybe it's not so surprising that it didn't sell.
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I can't believe that no-one snapped this one up. Looks like an MK version of GI Joe.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=290281528573
On second thoughts maybe it's not so surprising that it didn't sell.
Ha ha! Oh man, that looks weird. And only $500 to BIN, what a bargain!
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Look at the guy's seller rating: 97.2 Bad news.
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errr Sorry to say that I really don't like this GI joe, it is just horrible...
And the seller still beleive in santa claus to expect selling that thing, 500$
(and i don't play Barbie GI joe anymore lol...)
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Brewer's Droop poster, never seen one of these before:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BREWERS-DROOP-DIRE-STRAITS-KNOPFLER-RARE-1972-UK-POSTER_W0QQitemZ250359882377QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Music_Music_Memorabilia_LE?hash=item250359882377&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1297%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Also, a tour itinerary, these come up infrequently. Seems this has been printed from an electronic version so presumably they could make as many copies as they want.
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if anyone notices ticketscans on ebay (happens a lot) pls let me know, so i can add them to the database.
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For me, somebody got a bragain with this one:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Stratocaster-signed-by-Mark-Knopfler_W0QQitemZ320322593006QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item320322593006&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A13%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Well I said at the time that I thought this was a bargain, but I didn't realise just how much of a bargain, read the full story:
http://www.dousset.net/when_marc_met_mark.html
What a lucky guy, congrats Marc. :)
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Cool poster from our Swedish friends.
http://cgi.ebay.com/MARK-KNOPFLER-swedish-promo-poster-for-Kill-To-Get_W0QQitemZ160312869942QQihZ006QQcategoryZ108857QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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rare item, but.....expensive! :o
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120373081358&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=002
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Wasn't aware of this, seems like a goo cause.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Helicoast-08-with-Mark-Knopfler-music_W0QQitemZ270343599226QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CDsDVDs_DVDs_DVDs_GL?hash=item270343599226&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1687%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
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"Video playable on LD Player ONLY, I no longer have a LD player, so I cannot check the quality of the video, or if it still plays or not. "
Taken from the 599 pound Money for Nothing single. Was this a joke by the ebay poster? 599 pounds for a possible unplayable cd? I have some oceanfront property to sell in Arizona. . . . ;D
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Big difference between asking for
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MTV "Moonman" video music award
(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8048/85awardws3.jpg)
http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=250456148854
(http://i.ebayimg.com/22/!BVYVOMgCGk~$(KGrHgoH-EIEjlLlecF0BKSOhd5qsw~~_12.JPG)
not my auction (unfortunately ;D)
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Great photo of MK, though. Thanks.
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Somebody seling some cool pics of MK that I haven't seen before:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-PRESS-PHOTO-OF-dire-straits-mark-knopfler-NO-24_W0QQitemZ170440175804QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Collectables_Photographs_MJ?hash=item27af06b0bc
(http://i.ebayimg.com/17/!Bg(pBrQCGk~$(KGrHqQOKkQErzJ15PbrBLFBuHQehw~~_12.JPG)
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Somebody seling some cool pics of MK that I haven't seen before:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-PRESS-PHOTO-OF-dire-straits-mark-knopfler-NO-24_W0QQitemZ170440175804QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Collectables_Photographs_MJ?hash=item27af06b0bc
(http://i.ebayimg.com/17/!Bg(pBrQCGk~$(KGrHqQOKkQErzJ15PbrBLFBuHQehw~~_12.JPG)
Wow ! Mark looks even better than the motorcycle ! Are there rooms for some of the ladies in the back? Fieneke, where are you?????????
P.S. how much is it going for ? I meant the motorcycle ! ;D
Wonder if Mark owns any Harley Davidsons?
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Mmmmm, I love that picture! The bike's not bad either. ;D
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That was when he had more hair.... :-*
LE
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That was when he had more hair.... :-*
LE
He's just as gorgeous with even less hair! :P
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Don
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LE, It has to be a certain type of man with a certain shape of head and MK ticks all the boxes! ;)
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LE, It has to be a certain type of man with a certain shape of head and MK ticks all the boxes! ;)
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Don
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I want the motorbike !!!
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Some cool Knopfler items on UK ebay at the moment, the best of which has to be this:
Signed drumhead from the GL tour
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/signed-drumhead-donated-iconic-Mark-Knopfler-/220694656101?pt=UK_Music_Music_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item33626d3465
Also a few nice magazines and promo discs. :)
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Some cool Knopfler items on UK ebay at the moment, the best of which has to be this:
Signed drumhead from the GL tour
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/signed-drumhead-donated-iconic-Mark-Knopfler-/220694656101?pt=UK_Music_Music_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item33626d3465
Also a few nice magazines and promo discs. :)
It's for prince trust 2010? Mark is not participating at the concert, but he offered these things...
Hey could better play the concert, lol :P
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Well it is very nice seeing all these items:real objects of desire, but shouldn't there be a semi-official guide with the official releases (the other collectibles items - posters, badges, stickers-you know-are surely harder to track and record)around the globe, plus quantities in circulation, so that we know exactly if something worths the price asked?(asking for the unofficial is not out of the question but much harder i suppose)
Putting a price on something and letting desire raising this price has a separate logic that some sellers take advantage of. And yes, the final resistance to all these is NOT BUY from these sellers. But it has to be done collectively. It is too bad that outsiders- meaning no real fans of MK/DS take advantage of our desires. But discussing the sociology and psychology of the collector may be a topic for a new thread.
You probably know this site, but just in case:
http://www.btinternet.com/~john_bennett/index.htm
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Hey, take a look at that:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130459141736&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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Yes, very nice, but they wouldn't mean a thing to me, unless MK signed them personally, in front of me - sorry! It's the actual signing that matters. ;)
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I agree with you Superval, a signature is only worth something in my eyes if the one signing knew it was for me, even if they didn't know me, even if they will have forgotten within a minute, at the time they were signing it, they were thinking of me ;D
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I know you are both right. I just posted it to show you the price that they fetch, remembering an old Simpsons episode, where a young girl asks someone famous (McCartney maybe?) to dedicate -sign her copy "to ebay". (you can see the joke...)
Just wondering how he got all these CDs signed and since he got in to all this trouble, how come he sells them . (OK he might be in need of some cash, but still...)
On the other hand, it is weird but i wish i had the chance to meet the man to get an autograph but fat chance, since i live in Greece. And officially, on tour, he's been here only twice, 1985 and 2008. Would you rather have nothing or something even with the conditions you describe?
A friend of mine, 10 years ago brought me as a Christmas present, an ATP program signed by all members of Television. I have only seen Tom Verlain live, as a member of Patti Smith band, but i think he is great. So even though i was not there i treasure it very much.
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Hi VGONIS2002, When I was about 13 years old, I absolutely adored a certain comic actor and eventually he did a tour to various theatres around Britain and one of the venues was in my hometown. I would have done almost anything to have been there, but, unfortunately, the date clashed with the family summer holiday and I couldn't go, but my best friend went and took my autograph book with her to get his autograph. She waited at the stage-door and was lucky enough to meet him. He signed her autograph book, but refused to sign mine, saying "Tell your friend she has to come herself". Even when my friend told him that I was on holiday, he still refused. I was heartbroken and couldn't bear to even think of him, let alone watch him anymore, but now, more than 50 years later, I completely understand what he meant. An autograph is nothing, if it is not written for you, in person, because the memory will stay with you forever! I am still waiting for my MK autograph! :)
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Nice story Val!
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Would you rather have nothing or something even with the conditions you describe?
I'd choose nothing, because if it's not signed for me, it is just a piece of paper (and I have loads of paper at home already). Then again, I am not a collector of such things. They are nice to have if you have them but it's the music that turns me on.
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I never buy signed things on Ebay for two reasons:
1: I prefer as you ladies to have the item signed in front of me and just for me...(by the man)
2: they are SO many fakes...
btw i bought the Lithos.... but i know they 're signed by MK and they're Official Merchandising
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hey superval, who was the actor?
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Glad to have raised such a conversation, great story! Still an opinion is not wrong just because someone else has a different one. After all, asking from a friend to get you an autograph at your book, is totally understandable! As for desire, we excuse it at children but not for grown ups. It is unfair, somehow...and in order to keep face, we invented the term collector, that can't really describe the psychology of the person who desires a thing others consider unworthy.
But to return to my initial post, i do believe that there is something wrong in selling your autographed copies (fake comes in mind, as you said), but the price is what bothers me most. These signatures actually worth that kind of money for somebody (ended 300$).
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So many fakes, I just wouldn't buy an autograph. Although I bought a signed copy of Michael Caine's new book the other week from a reputable bookseller, no idea if he actually signed it or not.
I have MK's autograph 4 or 5 times over I think, but I watched him sign it each time. :)
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I haven't a 'real' autograph from MK. I'm not sure that I'd ask for one if I had the chance. Maybe if I had a programme in hand I would. What would be important would be the memory of his looking deeply into my eyes, and telling me that I am his most beloved fan.
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Ha, I remember when he said that to me!
On all the occassions I've got autographs from him he has been very charming and seemingly happy to do so. :)
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Your memory is confused. He told you about me and your twisted mind revised the story.
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He actually came to my dream and signed all my items, but he had done so with all his fans, and it came to the point where the unsigned ones were the rarest of all. I woke up and for a moment of pure confusion, i felt happy because all my items were clear of his signature, but then reality struck me as a 16 ton weight from Monty python's flying circus. Alone and forsaken...
By the way i was his greatest fan, i didn't track him down, he came looking for me!
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NEW ITEM
Someone is selling this... MK's gig in Paris 2010 (soundboard.... must be the simfy thing )
http://annonces.ebay.fr/viewad/MARK-KNOPFLER-LIVE-IN-PARIS-BERCY-9-JUIN-2010-2CDS-/5022897003
I know it's not leagal and it makes me angry... rrrrrr :(
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anyone complained?
"Cette petite annonce n'est plus disponible."
seems like it worked :-)
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Do you have 8000 Euro extra? Here is how to spend them :lol
http://cgi.ebay.de/dire-straits-On-Every-Street-Withdrawn-Sampler-/150579735521?pt=B%C3%BCcher_Unterhaltung_Music_CDs&hash=item230f406be1
This item is quite common and 10-15 euro would be even too much. Incredible! :disbelief
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Probably mistyped the price.
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lol...will buy it for 8 though...
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Probably mistyped the price.
possible not probable. If you read the description the seller thinks to own a rarity ???
I think the "problem" are the free listings on eBay: you don't have to pay anymore the insertion fees that were proportional to the asking price.
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Probably mistyped the price.
possible not probable. If you read the description the seller thinks to own a rarity ???
I think the "problem" are the free listings on eBay: you don't have to pay anymore the insertion fees that were proportional to the asking price.
This is not a 1966 1st state wrapped stereo Butcher either
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GOLDEN HEART TOUR PROGRAMME
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320677133374&ssPageName=ADME:B:BCA:GB:1123
I didnt see this one too often, a great collector item if you dont have it!
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I have the Golden Heart programme. It is definitely one
of the best from the solo tours. Some great pics!!!
Cheers. BBB
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I have the Golden Heart programme too, signed by Ed Bicknell, who stood next to me at the concert. :)
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Have it to a must to have ! I bought mine on Ebay a couple of years ago !
Think I got them all now...:)
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I bought mine back in 1996 at that rainy Hamburg show and had to protect it in my leather rucksack. I think it was the only thing on me that was NOT totally soaked when I came home after what has been the hottest day of the year :o 8) - ah, happy memories...
LE
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Mine was signed by MK and the whole band! :) Aberdeen 1996.
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Mine was signed by MK and the whole band! :) Aberdeen 1996.
Lucky you ;D
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Does anyone know what the documentary on disc 3 is on this set.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dire-Straits-Mark-Knopfler-3CD-PROMO-VERY-RARE-CD-SET-/130505536240?pt=UK_CDsDVDs_CDs_CDs_GL&hash=item1e62bc72f0
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Probably mistyped the price.
not a mistake. now he's asking 7000 Euro :disbelief
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Probably mistyped the price.
not a mistake. now he's asking 7000 Euro :disbelief
I emailed the guy to ask if he is for real. His wife or partner or whatever answered, and said, yeah, it's for real. Because it's "such a rare item, you see. Only a few were made, of which many have probably been lost, so you can just imagine how few there are in existence today." She might be right, but we're not exactly talking about the first print of Hamlet here ... 7000 euro for a promo CD. They must be nuts.
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Probably mistyped the price.
not a mistake. now he's asking 7000 Euro :disbelief
I emailed the guy to ask if he is for real. His wife or partner or whatever answered, and said, yeah, it's for real. Because it's "such a rare item, you see. Only a few were made, many have probably been lost, so you can just imagine how there are in existence today." She might be right, but we're not exactly talking about the first print of Hamlet here ... 7000 euro for a promo CD. They must be nuts.
They are not nuts, worse in that part of the job, they are ignorant.
Or should I assume that my BIA maxi single is worth
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Oh? Oh ? Oh? Well ! I've just found this out...
Who's gonna buy?
http://cgi.ebay.fr/MARK-KNOPFLER-ONE-TAKE-RADIO-SESSIONS-1-CD-METAL-BOX-71-100-NEW--/300617139386?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item45fe2d84ba
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Oh? Oh ? Oh? Well ! I've just found this out...
Who's gonna buy?
http://cgi.ebay.fr/MARK-KNOPFLER-ONE-TAKE-RADIO-SESSIONS-1-CD-METAL-BOX-71-100-NEW--/300617139386?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item45fe2d84ba
Pottel?
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NO he won't !! ( well I hope... that's a stupid fake packaging... for a EP we (almost) all already have)
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ok, I didn't realise it was a fake...
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I must be a sucker, I thought it looked real...
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I must be a sucker, I thought it looked real...
me too, I wouldn'y buy it though,even at a tenth of the price. I already have the songs... (paid about 5 euros for them)...
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Anyone check that crappy link at the end of the offering?
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lets check ! i'm affraid no one gonna bid....
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Its obvious that its not official, but its great...
In the own site of this people, they say they are just fans that like to do this, and well, its not official, but its a hard and nice work.
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Well, I checked it out, also has SL and from the DS years LoG and BiA. Jbaent says it is obvious that its not official but It looks authorized, even though I am not that certain. Anyway, it is a bit weird to go on and make these "sculptures" as they call it, with the option to customize, if they are not authorized. The photos and artwork they use is copyrighted and they can get in trouble. Anyway, I can melt my LoG quiex II edition and make a totally unique work of art, 1 copy only, that I would probably have to through away, except if I find somebody to sell it to.
Man, the end of the introductory text says it all. Goes something like:"Our job is aimed to passionate lovers of music and artworks. We create items that are built to last in time and increase in value."
Sounds like art stock market, and I hate stock market and go berserk when they put art in the same sentence. I guess if they really sold them in more reasonable prices, like 50 -100 Euros, they might have attracted more than wealthy fans, wealthy friends of the fans that are obligated to give expensive gifts to fans and the real vultures, the ones that buy whatever is or considered collectible, in order to sell it later to the real fans, raising the price taking advantage of the desire.
The snag is that they create the item upon request, so the only loss they have if they are authorized is the permit license fee they had to pay to the artist-record company.
But maybe I am way too hard, some of the items are fine looking, and these are hard times and people try to make a decent living.
Hey, how come AMIT, hasn't created such an item for AMIT members only? Maybe we can all chip in and with the help of Guy create such an artifact. I think an italian fan club had done this back in the 80ies, issued a Solid rock 7'' single from Alchemy. The collector in me is awake, don't mind him... ;)
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Hey, how come AMIT, hasn't created such an item for AMIT members only? Maybe we can all chip in and with the help of Guy create such an artifact. I think an italian fan club had done this back in the 80ies, issued a Solid rock 7'' single from Alchemy. The collector in me is awake, don't mind him... ;)
I have that single and its great, with all DS members signs on it!
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I too have it, just not in position to positively check if it was from the Italian fan club, a magazine free-be or a cooperation of the two. And yes it is nice to have all these signatures printed on them. :) A nice way to have reference signatures in order to check if the ones selling are genuine, and of course a nice prototype for the forgers! :o
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US collectors are allowed to bid for what could be the first release of BIA on CD in the USA, in its original longbox, still sealed. A nice piece of history (unfortunately the seller doesn't ship abroad :()
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290755461352?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/290755461352?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ORIGINAL-Dire-Straits-Brothers-in-Arms-CD-Manufactured-in-GERMANY-SEALED-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$T2eC16dHJIkE9qU3lQ8,BQHYwzh8sw~~60_12.JPG)
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Nice one! I am sitting here in "West" Germany (having not heard that term for a long time) and not being able to get it from the US - the world is not a "global village" yet...
:-[
LE
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US collectors are allowed to bid for what could be the first release of BIA on CD in the USA, in its original longbox, still sealed. A nice piece of history (unfortunately the seller doesn't ship abroad :()
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290755461352?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/290755461352?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ORIGINAL-Dire-Straits-Brothers-in-Arms-CD-Manufactured-in-GERMANY-SEALED-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$T2eC16dHJIkE9qU3lQ8,BQHYwzh8sw~~60_12.JPG)
Did you ask the seller?
Some only mention their contry assuming that international bidders wouldn't have interest for. So as long as it is not explicitely written that he won't ship for your country you get a chance. When I was active on Ebay every time I asked a seller for I got positive answer.
Of course I never placed my bid before getting the answer and shipping cost.
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ds1984 you are right on the spot! Same here with me.
But I was also thinking whether we can get some help from a fellow AMITier that lives on the USA and have it sent there. And we can return the favour!
Anyone interested?
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The price IS still low, come on, surely someone on here must be willing?
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Or what about this? Hours of fun for all the family!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180946458296?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1105
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And there is at least one novel with the title"Dire straits"
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Did you ask the seller?
Some only mention their contry assuming that international bidders wouldn't have interest for. So as long as it is not explicitely written that he won't ship for your country you get a chance. When I was active on Ebay every time I asked a seller for I got positive answer.
thanks for the advice but I have already asked :)
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I am willing to purchase this for one of you. First one to contact me, gets it if I do. Please let me know (in dollars) what your highest bid would be.
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I am willing to purchase this for one of you. First one to contact me, gets it if I do. Please let me know (in dollars) what your highest bid would be.
pm ;)
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that boardgame, awesome,.....anyone ever seen this before?
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It's already off target for me (I'd have to add shipping to Italy + Customs fees to the current price). Anyway I want to thank RKD for his precious willingness.
Next in line? :lol
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that boardgame, awesome,.....anyone ever seen this before?
yes, it appears here and there during my DS searches on ebay. It should be a sort of Monopoly
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Next in line? :lol
Let me know asap if anyone else has a burning desire to spend a lot of $$.
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Check this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dire-Straits-Brothers-In-Arms-Ultra-Rare-5-1-Surround-Sound-DVD-Audio-Nice-/400314555721?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item5d349b5d49
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Check this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dire-Straits-Brothers-In-Arms-Ultra-Rare-5-1-Surround-Sound-DVD-Audio-Nice-/400314555721?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item5d349b5d49
overpriced! it's out of print but it appears regurarly on ebay (60-80 USD).
Another BIA Longbox, highly overpriced (it's a later pressing, nothing to share with the W.Germany release):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-BROTHERS-in-ARMS-CD-LONGBOX-USA-PERFETTO-SIGILLATO-RARO-/310388611434?pt=CD&hash=item48449a596a (http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-BROTHERS-in-ARMS-CD-LONGBOX-USA-PERFETTO-SIGILLATO-RARO-/310388611434?pt=CD&hash=item48449a596a)
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/290755461352?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
it ended in quite reasonable price compared to the italian listing.
Maybe we should establish a more permanent contact with USA AMITers, so that we can bid without all this going around.
RKD, thank you for responding! (Even though I didn't have time to read your offer until after it was over. And anyway, it went too high for me.)
May I contact you with a PM to establish that contact for future situations?
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I've just managed to grab myself a BIA tour book for the grand sum of 99p and a "live in '85" enamel badge for
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Check this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dire-Straits-Brothers-In-Arms-Ultra-Rare-5-1-Surround-Sound-DVD-Audio-Nice-/400314555721?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item5d349b5d49
Maybe I'm missing something, but what exactly is the difference between the item in that ebay listing and the version
here (http://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Arms-20th-Anniversary-Edition/dp/B0009A21R6) that you can buy on amazon for $12? Aren't they both the same 20th anniversary edition two sided discs?
I remember I bought it when it came out in 2005 at a local record store and I thought the idea of a two sided disc was kind of neat but not exactly novel. Too bad the format flopped.
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Check this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dire-Straits-Brothers-In-Arms-Ultra-Rare-5-1-Surround-Sound-DVD-Audio-Nice-/400314555721?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item5d349b5d49
Maybe I'm missing something, but what exactly is the difference between the item in that ebay listing and the version
here (http://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Arms-20th-Anniversary-Edition/dp/B0009A21R6) that you can buy on amazon for $12? Aren't they both the same 20th anniversary edition two sided discs?
I remember I bought it when it came out in 2005 at a local record store and I thought the idea of a two sided disc was kind of neat but not exactly novel. Too bad the format flopped.
In 2005 there were SACD and 5.1 Surround double sided cd/dvd. Nothing special so the price for this (5.1 Surround) item is way overpriced!
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http://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Arms-Anniversary-Dire-Straits/dp/B0009WFF7M/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1345137207&sr=1-2&keywords=brothers+in+arms+%2820th
Dan there is a great difference. This is the dual disc, long deleted, and overpriced. The other is the most common edition SACD(with faux 5.1) that you find sometimes at used record stores. But the price is hardly 15$, it is 22! (Or since your link it has changed!!!!)
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one is SACD the other is DVD-A. But the biggest difference is that the SACD is still available everywhere, the DVD-A is out of print and this drives up the price
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Nice, thanks, I didn't know that the DVD-A was out of print. That's the version that I have. So now I can sell it on ebay for a huge profit...lol...just kidding. ;D
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Dan, I don't think that anyone buys these CDs/DVDs at such ridiculously high prices. I don't even know why they put them up for sale. Maybe some wealthy Russian or Arab, fan of MK will buy it!!! ;D It is a total rip off, even for them. If you wait long enough you will find everything at the affordable price you were willing to pay. Of course seeing the first edition of BiA longbox, was a thrill and I was willing to pay for it up to 50$. But it went over 100$!
My guess for the ones with the overpriced items (200-700 dollars) is that they are re-sellers, actually not having in their possession the object, but with better means to advertise it and sell it. When they get the sale(remember they are getting paid in advance), they find one such copy at lower price (or have already located it) or cancel the order if they can't find it. I don't know if ebay allows such tactics, but I have seen it happen at Alibris.com.
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DVD-A are sought-after items
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Which one of them was an official release?
Or were they both? Can't seem to remember... :o
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Which one of them was an official release?
Or were they both? Can't seem to remember... :o
All official, one for Europe, one for the USA.
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I've just received my "Live in 85" enamel badge through the post and I must say it looks great. A little tarnished on the back, as can only be expected but like new on the front. I'm so chuffed with it I'm wearing it now! I don't suppose these are very rare but I think they are good looking little badges and a nice size in that they aren't too obtrusive like the guitar badges are.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/140832186097?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Strange thing. All of the sudden these QuiexII promo Alchmy , are all over the place fetching high prices! I got one a couple of days ago for 12 Euros! And it was exactly the same, with all stickers and description. And I also found at least 2 more listings. But 125 $!!!
And then this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160869587179?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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For all of you MK fans, you can find ultra rare The Ragpicker's Dream vinyl on eBay. First one after year of searching by me, for only $99. I wish I can buy it, but I can't.
htpp://www.ebay.com/itm/MARK-KNOPFLER-THE-RAGPICKERS-DREAM-2LP-LIMITED-ED-VINYL-W-NO-DIRE-STRAITS-RARE-/150889900089?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2321bd2839
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For all of you MK fans, you can find ultra rare The Ragpicker's Dream vinyl on eBay. First one after year of searching by me, for only $99. I wish I can buy it, but I can't.
??? ::) ??? ::) ??? ::)
for only $99.
:disbelief :disbelief :'( :disbelief :disbelief
Methinks I haven't properly learned the meaning of the word "only"
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For all of you MK fans, you can find ultra rare The Ragpicker's Dream vinyl on eBay. First one after year of searching by me, for only $99. I wish I can buy it, but I can't.
??? ::) ??? ::) ??? ::)
for only $99.
:disbelief :disbelief :'( :disbelief :disbelief
Methinks I haven't properly learned the meaning of the word "only"
+1
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I guess "ultra" is important here...
LE
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???
Thing is really rare, what else I can say?
Previous auction ended up on over $200, so this is a chance as I think anyway.
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I guess for us that bought it on release, 99$ is a bit pricey. 200$ is way over our heads. It tempts me to sell mine. No!
Maybe it is a bit hard to find, since it is the first MK release in vinyl, numbered and must have been an experiment to see how it goes. It must have made it, and from then on we have vinyl releases. Too bad we don't have STP and GH. Foma you might be right, I usually don't check on ebay for things I have, unless I intend to sell.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/350591364715?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649
I tried for this one but it went too high for me. Any ideas if this recording can be found elsewhere?
Also saw this that I already have, go for a nice price!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120970614043?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649
Also this one went cheaply. I have a copy, that's why I didn't try it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/350588825959?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649
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FYI: interesting pic for sale on ebay @
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190733335523?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
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FY: interesting pic for sale on ebay @
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190733335523?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
Love this! Wonder what size it is; would love it on my wall...
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ADDITIONAL DETAILS: This is an original press photo. Photo measures 9.5 x 7inches. Photo is dated 11-11-1985.
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ADDITIONAL DETAILS: This is an original press photo. Photo measures 9.5 x 7inches. Photo is dated 11-11-1985.
Thanks. The additional details space came up completely blank on my computer!
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It came up blank on mine, too, but I see it now. I posted that it was probably 10" x 8" (not sure if it registered at AMIT - an occasional problem) but that will be the size of the photographic paper - about quarto size in the pre-decimal paper size system and still used in the United Sates. I think it is more or less the same proportions as a 35 mm photographic negative in landscape orientation.
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There was a lot of traffic with the answers, so when you pressed "Post" it probably came up with the warning"While you were typing someone else sent a reply, you might want to revise your post" or something of the sort. If you don't pay attention and close the page, the message is lost. It used to happen to me a lot but after losing some lengthy posts that I didn't have the courage to re write, I wait a bit before closing the tab.
I can never get used to this inches thing, but thank vinyl for giving me a rough guide (3'',5'',7'',10'',12'' ) The 35 format is 2 to 3 but this paper must be a 20x25 or something like that.
Another thread another time twm, but thank you for the Issermann piece with Dylan! Double thanks, since I found (haven't heard yet) some Cohen recordings as well!
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Is there a recording of this show?
The Johnny Metro Blues at TF1
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I'll try to watch out for that, vgonis. Thanks.
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I have other pics of this "show" from a french magazine, I didn't know what it was until this thread :)
what is a bit strange is that Chris White is on keyboards ???
sorry for the pics, but I made some collages when I was a teen, and only few ones survived ... ::)
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Anybody seen this show? Maybe it was playback? Shows like this should be the content of a special DVD. But there must be an archive if it was aired. From the TV channel that broadcasted it or a random VCR recording by a fan (or from accident, maybe someone had a time recording for another channel ) ;D
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Looks like a pretty cool photoshoot to me but the date doesn't add up. On the 11th of November they were in Linz, Austria playing the day before and after too. They didn't reach Paris until the 27th of November...
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if it was on TF1, sure it was playback ! ;D
can't remember any TV live show on TF1 during 80's...but maybe I'm wrong
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if it was on TF1, sure it was playback ! ;D
can't remember any TV live show on TF1 during 80's...but maybe I'm wrong
I don't imagine they actually performed there but it looks as though they are doing a promo photoshoot for the show in the depths of the Paris Metro. Where did they find the time if the show was broadcast on 11th November?
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There is a number on the back of the photo "291185". That might be the date of the photoshoot/TV recording session. The broadcast date is also givem -it was 6 December, as I recall, but I'd have to double-check.
How do those dates fit in with the itinerary.
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There is a number on the back of the photo "291185". That might be the date of the photoshoot/TV recording session. The broadcast date is also givem -it was 6 December, as I recall, but I'd have to double-check.
How do those dates fit in with the itinerary.
That would make sense as they were playing the Bercy from 27 - 30/11/85. Thanks twm.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380483317901&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
for those that don't have this book, here is a nice copy with cheap starting price. The only official biography of the group, by Michael Oldfield. Until the next one it is a good start for the first 6 years of the band.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/110961816632?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Here is another copy of Oldfield's book with a cheaper price but more expensive postage.
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Nike Knopfler? ;D
(http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/213/dcxao.jpg)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIKE-DUNK-HIGH-ID-DIRE-STRAITS-MARK-KNOPFLER-EDITION-SIZE-11-/221141756135?pt=US_Men_s_Shoes&hash=item337d1368e7 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIKE-DUNK-HIGH-ID-DIRE-STRAITS-MARK-KNOPFLER-EDITION-SIZE-11-/221141756135?pt=US_Men_s_Shoes&hash=item337d1368e7)
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Man, what else are they gonna come up with? :P
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What do you think my MK-signature-iPhone would on on e-bay? :lol
But that's a real original, signed by MK in Amsterdam 2010 :)
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Well, I remember back in the days boys and girls used to ask their idols to sign them on their skins and they tried not to wash the specific place for a long time.
I also remember a Roald Dahl story where a beggar had a tattoed painting on his chest, by a very famous and expensive painter. You should read it, I ain't going to spoil it for you, it is fantastic!
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Well, I remember back in the days boys and girls used to ask their idols to sign them on their skins and they tried not to wash the specific place for a long time.
I also remember a Roald Dahl story where a beggar had a tattoed painting on his chest, by a very famous and expensive painter. You should read it, I ain't going to spoil it for you, it is fantastic!
Couldn't put that on eBay though! ;D
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In that fictional story they actually did! And reality is stranger than fiction!
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In that fictional story they actually did! And reality is stranger than fiction!
Very true.
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In that fictional story they actually did! And reality is stranger than fiction!
There is also a french comic movie "le tatou
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Do they auction for him? And afterwards his skin ends up in a gallery? If yes, it might be inspired by the story!
Dahl is a genious. Not only his famous children books, but his strange short stories as well. In the movie "Four rooms" the final story with Tarantino comes from a Dahl short story.
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Do they auction for him? And afterwards his skin ends up in a gallery? If yes, it might be inspired by the story!
Dahl is a genious. Not only his famous children books, but his strange short stories as well. In the movie "Four rooms" the final story with Tarantino comes from a Dahl short story.
Tales of the Unexpected was great. Used to scare the life out of me when I was a kid. And that was just the music! :lol
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Do they auction for him? And afterwards his skin ends up in a gallery? If yes, it might be inspired by the story!
Dahl is a genious. Not only his famous children books, but his strange short stories as well. In the movie "Four rooms" the final story with Tarantino comes from a Dahl short story.
well I've never seen the movie enterely
it's just a comedy with De Fun
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Searched for the plot on imdb, but I could only find two reviews that say something about a tatoo (the title of the movie) but nothing more. From watching the trailer (thank you for the link) I guess there is some serious connection! And I love Funes. Some of my most memorable childhood Sunday afternoons, are going at my aunt's place and watching Funes movies on the TV. (We didn't have one at home)
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from Wikipedia :
"Une nouvelle de Roald Dahl, Peau, qui est apparue entre autres dans le recueil Bizarre ! Bizarre ! (1954), a un sujet similaire : un vieil homme, Drioli, a sur la peau du dos un portrait de sa femme tatou
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OK, so it is similar. But has it influenced the script writer as well? Who knows! I will certainly look for the movie, even though without English or Greek subtitles I will be completely helpless. Thanks JF!
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WOW :disbelief
Dire Straits Hot Wheels
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Wheels-DIRE-STRAITS-1967-Pontaic-GTO-music-custom-/170946422776?pt=Action_Figures_Diecast_US&hash=item27cd3367f8
This is the link for the car. Itis a custom made job. It is a good idea, even though I don't much like the particular item. To many different things on such a small surface. I would do for a single theme, like the BiA cover art, with the colours and clouds covering all the car and the guitar either on the roof or the hood.
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I think the car is quite cool. I might bid on it.
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Sweetsurrender, I read his listing, and since he custom makes these cars, you could actually get in touch with him and ask specificaly what you want!
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Sweetsurrender, I read his listing, and since he custom makes these cars, you could actually get in touch with him and ask specificaly what you want!
Thanks, I may do just that. I'll find time to reply to your PM.
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Clever idea, though.
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These custom made objects have an appeal if they are made with gusto. Zippo lighters, badges, picks, even headphones, stuffed animals, scarfs, marbles etc, that all have something on to remind of the band. When they are made with care they are very nice, even though they are un official-and if they don't pay rights-illegal. Well pulling ethics on such matters...
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Even though this is not about ebay, I thought I should let you know about discogs (for those that don't already know it, anyway). It has a very nice database with unofficial recordings (and many of them available, in logical prices). And their official database is pretty good, and you can find many things in better prices than ebay.
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Dire+Straits#t=Unofficial_All&q=&p=1
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Dire+Straits
I use it both to buy and sell, and it is all about music. You can complete your collection!
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Another 'The Ragpicker's Dream' LP has arrived:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mark-Knopfler-Ragpickers-Dream-Limited-2LP-Dire-Straits-SEALED-Mercury-/150966395125?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D4242655089637584012%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D150966395125%26
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Hey FOMA, this one kinds of proves your point! Do you have the LP or are you looking for it?
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vgonis, what do you mean by 'unofficial' recordings for sale?
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http://www.discogs.com/artist/Dire+Straits#t=Unofficial_All&q=&p=1
Bootlegs as a matter of fact! CDs and Vinyl. I Know that some AMITers do not like them to be sold,(I have rarely heard complaints about their existance though) but they are kind of fun for others and in the early, pre-napster days, they were the only way to get the music from a concert or the never released studio demos! Even now that it is obvious that they are done mainly for profit, some "companies" seem to put a great deal of love and care in the packaging and the aesthetics and some times the sound as well! Even though I can't afford most of them, I really treasure some of these unofficial releases very much and well, I must admit that I prefer them over the downloaded versions, because they have a physical presence, (sleeve, disc). And even though I know it is only a matter of perception, the fact that they are not readily available like torrents and that you have to pay (I hate the fact that they usually cost so much) gives me a sense of a treasure hunt and have been enhancing my fan-ship for a great length of time.
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That site must have been flying under the radar for all this time, then. Selling bootlegs is really really really frowned upon, and not justs by amit. That's the reason you can't find them on ebay any more. Yes, they exist in great numbers, but most have been traded. Before trackers like ours, traders den and dime (which are strictly legit) people traded one on one, exchanging recordings or for b&p. I started that way. There is an honor in the trading community not to sell them. I could be overstating to say they are illegal, but it is certainly considered unethical these days.
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The ethics of selling bootlegs is debatable yes, but realistically they (the bootleg sellers) are never going to be putting anyone out of business or doing any real harm in my opinion. Maybe quite the reverse - read on...
I can remember many years ago going to CD and record fairs and buying many bootlegs. Still have some. Also, there are a couple of second-hand record shops I know where I can buy bootlegs (I think one has shut down now). In these days it was virtually the only way I had of updating my collection because I had virtually nothing to trade and only just got the internet. Tomas Molin was teasing me with lists of tantalising bootlegs and I just had to have them - like NOW!!
So I have my collection today partly thanks to buying bootlegs in the early days and I will be forever grateful because they brought me a great deal of pleasure before the arrival of torrents many, many years later.
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I like this conversations! :) IrisRose, where do you stand on this? Do you share the view of the "trading community"? I mean if there is a set of ethics in this field, maybe there is something that I trully miss. We all know that these bootlegs are illegal, so you do not overstate in any way. But unethical? Why? If we accept the existence and trading of these bootlegs (mind you there is a physical object and not just the content) we actually on the same level with selling them. In the eyes of the law there is no difference if you make money or you receive other things in return (trading) Because trading accepts the meaning of value, simply doesn't accept money as a trading tool. But in order for them to be produced a certain amount of money have to be spend (I don't think that the ones that print the CDs and covers accept copies or other kind of compensation) and the number of copies and the way to distribute them usually demands a more flexible system than the "trading community". This simply means that the mass produced physical bootlegs, should not exist at all! But they do exist. I think we had this talk sometime back and we never reached a conclusion. It was a matter of opinion really. I really wish there weren't any, because these little devils have been the objects of my desire the last 23 years and they were pretty pricy too! (yes i have paid for the ones that I have...)
Last but not least I think that a bootleg recording is a recording that actually doesn't produce fees for the owners of rights and/or taxes for the state. Even though I don't wish to even produce a ripple in the tranquil waters of torrents, if there is ever a legal case against these free sharing files the whole arguement that MK allows these recordings, or has no objections, is as thin as the emperors new cloths!
I do get your point about money changing hands for such matters, but would it be OK if the amount was the price that it costs to produce? Ethics really deal with the actual act, but here money seems to be glued with it. It reminds me of the Argentinian movie "9 queens". Two men have this talk about the boundaries of ethics. Someone asks the other if he would ever consider sleeping with a man for money. The other says NO. Well how about 100$? NO 1000$ NO. How about a cool million, no questions asked? The other starts thinking about it. And before he says anything the other says "Everybody hides a male prostitute inside, just some of them are cheap and some of them expensive".
That said, I really appreciate the trading more than the sale.But both ebay and discogs have in their listings regularly such bootleg records. See www.popike.com and type any major group, dire straits as well. popike is a catalogue of the most expensive records sold via ebay, for about a decade. You will find that more than 50% of the records that fetch high prices are bootlegs, many of them very recent! So you do find them on ebay. It is a puzzler when it comes to ethics, isn't it? ;)
dmg you make a very nice point, from the beginners side, who has nothing to trade!
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twm shall be on soon to inform us all that the 1st. bootleg was in fact a Dylan one! ;)
"That first bootleg is now legendary, a collection of Bob Dylan recordings dating from 1961, plus miscellaneous studio out-takes, and seven tracks from the Basement tapes sessions, all under the name of
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dmg in a way you are right. I was reading this "LP Goodbye" book the other day and he was mentioning that from the early 50ies, the first "bootleg" recordings appeared, and they were jazz compilations, transfered from 78 records onto the new 33 format, by avid collectors. They had found a loop-hole in the legal system of US copyrights and they were doing this for the pleasure of it and in order to save these recordings from extinction. Of course a great deal of money had to be spent to buy all these machines and to produce the records and to cut them andd to print the (newly arrived) envelopes/sleeves we now take for granded and distribute them and so on. So in order to keep this up they had to sell them!!! There was a parody of a trial and the legal system fixed that hole one and for all. (The legal system in the US works with the results of previous similar cases. ) There were many albums after that, all bootleg, but Dylan's album must have been the first from a popular artist and the knowledge of breaking the law.
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When I first started, I was lucky enough to find three collectors/traders who were very generous with b&p. Then a couple of years later, Passalong came along but the downloads could be purchased only in the US. Downloaders who paid were allowed seven copies. I used those with European friends to increase my collection. I finally had something to trade. Before I knew it was illegal/unethical/frowned upon by the artists, I bought a very few on ebay. Very soon after that, artists convinced ebay not to list them. For a while, all you had to do was complain and the listing would be removed. So I am very surprised when you say that ebay still offers them.
Then the torrents came along. Most of the downloading sites, at least in the US have been shut down by the government, but those that keep their selections unofficial and without money involved stay open. Traders' Den, Dimeadozen, the Knopfler Tracker. There are other 'legal' ones. I know that there are also a bunch of illegal ones. Frankly I stay away from those. When the sites are eventually shut down, their patrons may be held accountable also.
Whether they are illegal or not is for legal teams to determine. I think that free trading of concert recordings, free radio and tv interviews and such is fine. But my feelings that people who make profit from these recordings that they got, probably free, are unethical. So I don't buy them. I don't think it is fair to the artist. Knopfler used to be very generous about fans recording his concerts, but no longer. And people did used to put money and effort into making 'silvers' and other quality bootlegs, but in my opinion as soon as money exchanges hands, they aren't bootlegs any more, but pirated. I realize that is strong, but it's how I feel.
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IrisRose, I really understand your point and we are on the same wavelength, just different pitches! ;)
I am not trying to convince you in any way, because I believe that since all bootlegs are illegal you are in for a dollar, in for a dime. Napster was shut down for providing music, official and unofficial. But they didn't shut it down because of the official content-this was the legal side of it. It was mainly because the companies didn't know how to profit from it, yet. They had the physical sales and they didn't believe that downloading would interest people! (itunes proved them wrong...) Napster execs had suggested a form of cooperation with the big companies, but they turn it down. If big companies and artists think that they can make more money from unofficial recordings, they will enforce this ban even to the "legal" trackers. They have every right, it is their right legally and ethically.
But here is another dimention of it. I rarely have the time to listen to the bulk of recordings that trackers provide, but I do download them in the hope that I will find some eventually. And I have stopped buying (and looking for that matter, in order to avoid temptation) any recordings, because I can not afford them. But I really believe that both us fans and in a certain degree the general public, would have lost a great deal of fantastic music (sometimes better than the one officially released) if there weren't any bootlegs (physical or downloads). Grateful dead used to say that we prefer our fans to record our shows, than buying them from some money making bootleger. I really appreciate this statement and attitude. Pearl Jam more than 10 years ago have tried to deal with it by issuing a vast number of live recordings from the some tour, OFFICIALLY! Of course only few people could follow the whole project since the CDs were quite pricy as a bulk.
You mention somewhere that "Knopfler used to be...but no longer". Is that a fact? I don't mean to offend you(I don't believe in the statement myself) but just making a logical statement: Maybe we should stop listening to the bootlegs, since he doesn't approve of them. Because this is the definition of unethical. We should be able to set the limits ourselves, disregarding any personal gain, like the pleasure of listening to this music.
I believe that this is only a fan talk, meaning that we are very small in numbers and the vast MK buying public doesn't really care for them and this is the reason we are allowed to have unofficial recordings, or the reason these recordings don't get an official release.
And you are right about ethics and law. Two completely different things! And this is a logical paradox.
Thank you for your replies! A real pleasure!
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We should also bear in mind when discussing ethics that when we purchase an official recording only a tiny percentage actually goes to the artist actually making the music. Instead we are fattening the already fat wallets of the record companies. Mark spoke out about this in the early 90s referring to portions of a pie which were "dubious to say the least" or something like that. This maybe explains the Grateful Dead statement regarding fans recordings and I suggest most artists will probably agree because they get screwed by their record companies at every turn. Is Privateering available in the USA yet? ::)
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I will not get into the legalities, ethics or efficacy of bootlegs, nor the definitional aspects (that is, what is a "bootleg" and how it differs from "counterfeit" and so on).
"Great White Wonder", which appeared in the late summer of 1969 in the USA, is reckoned to be the first ROCK bootleg album but it was not the first example of bootlegging recorded music.
Over 100 years ago, a guy called Mapleson, who had been given a recorder by Edison and was the librarian at the Metropolitan Opera Hose in New York, would record brief snatches of performances in the venue. The Mapleson Cylinders, albeit individually brief in content and poor in sound quality, are now regarded as of historical importance. In the years after WW2 and into the 1950s, commercial bootlegging began to grow - classical music, operas, jazz, blues - taken from radio broadcasts, live performances, old 78s not available on LP, "original soundtracks" from films that were not available officially, and so on.
Many of the early private recordings of Dylan were not made with a future commercial value in mind. Individuals simply made recordings for their own use, for playing to friends or for copying for friends. Dubs of studio recordings were made for similar reasons. Sometimes, acetates of those recordings were passed around to encourage other singers to record the songs. Copies of copies of all of these were passed around between fans, anxious to hear "everything" (or as much as possible) recorded by their favourite artist. In more recent years, it appears that concerts are recorded by bootleggers, on top-notch equipment, with a view, from the outset, of making and selling bootleg CDs.
Finally (and I hope I haven't said this before), it is not unknown for big record companies to bootleg competitors' output - not as a whole but in part, at least. I can't find my note on the subject but, as I recall, Columbia Records discovered, after the event, that they had failed to record the whole of one orchestral piece. These recordings, when made in the studio, are done in sections and then the various sections are joined together to make the final record - and they found they had a gap! Since it would have been almost impossible to bring everyone together again to record the missing section (and, doubtless, disproportionately expensive, too), their solution was to "borrow" (for which read, "steal", "misappropriate", "nick" etc) the missing part from a recording made by someone else for another record company. Not aprevalent practice, I'm sure, but if it happened once, it may well have happened on other occasions.
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twm, I would really love to read your point of view for the aspects you avoid to get into. It is not a poll, but a valued opinion from a man that has been around all this time and can have an insight the rest of us fail to see. What I can gather from your post is that regardless of the legality or morality of the bootlegs, the outcome (Mapleston cylinders) tends to justify the means.
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There are literally 100s of Dylan bootleg albums and I don't "collect" them as such. That does not mean that I haven't purchased a few over the years. I have, maybe, 15-20 bootleg LPs (including the "grey area" ones that came out of Italy and were sold in regular record shops). I have a great number of cassettes (live and in-studio) that I've swapped with friends over the years, so many that I've lost count. I have more bootleg CDs than LPs but mainly for the convenience - in order to have reference copies for my article writing. This latter category included two series of double-album sets that document Dylan's earlier output - in studio and and live stuff, respectively. I also have a fair number of CDs that people have made for me, on request, mainly in return for past favours or out of friendship.
In Europe, the "50 year rule" applies. This means that, as of 1 January 2013, anything recorded (?) or released (?)by Dylan up to the end of 1962 can be legally released by other companies. I'm not quite sure how this rule applies to material recorded in 1961 and 1962 but not officially released until years later. However, I note that the companies involved have omitted this "released later" material from their compilations, so either they're not sure and don't want to take a chance or they are sure and keep well away from those tracks.
I take no moral high ground in all this at all. If I happen to have some bootleg recording of something that Dylan subsequently issues officially, I don't think I've ever failed to buy the official release. I suppose that I could say that, therefore, I'm not depriving him of income but I'm not saying that.
I have never derived an income from bootleg material or releases and I have been very selective in what I've bought. Again, no defence if it came to court but I feel comfortable with that.
I don't get worked up about the subject at all.
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Thank you twm!
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The document reproduced below is worth reading. Because it exceeds the maximum number of characters, I have split it into several parts (4 parts in fact).
I don't have much truck with the Republican Party views in the USA but this was posted on-line just under a month ago by The Republican Study Committe by Rep. Jim Jordan, Chairman of this committee (and under the name of Paul Teller, its Executive Director). The telephone number given is 202 226 971 and the e-mail address (?) as rsc.jordan.house.gov.
The RSC Staff Contact is: Derek.S.Khanna e-mail: Derek.Khanna@mail.house.gov tel: 202 226 0718
The document was apparently withdrawn from its original website not long after it was posted but somebody has now posted it here:
http://marylandpirates.com/wp-content/uploads/rsc_policy_brief_--_three_myths_about_copyright_law_and_where_to_start_to_fix_it_--_november_16_2012.pdf
In case this happens again, I reproduce the document in whole here, as near as possible to its original formatting, but without any indication or confirmation from me that it is genuine and true. I just thought it might be worth a read in the light of the foregoing posts in this thread:
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RSC Policy Brief:
Three Myths about Copyright Law and Where to Start to Fix it:
November 16, 2012
RSC Staff Contact: Derek S. Khanna, Derek.Khanna@mail.house.gov, (202) 226-0718
This paper will analyze current US Copyright Law by examining three myths on copyright law and possible reforms to copyright law that will lead to more economic development for the private sector and to a copyright law that is more firmly based upon constitutional principles.
1. The purpose of copyright is to compensate the creator of the content:
It
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Can we ever have too much copyright protection?:
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Yes. The Federal government has gotten way too big, and our copyright law is a symptom of the expansion in the size and scope of the federal government.
Today
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actually infringing. The court has said that their needs to be
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It's a lot of reading, guys, and I apologise for that - but I, for one, found it interesting in the light of some of the recent posts in this thread.
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Very interesting twm! Thank you! Before the last segment with his proposal of 46 years, I was thinking that the author had a bunch of google stocks! But his suggestion is fair, it is more or less what we used to have in Greece until 1995. After that the 50 year limit after the death of the author (which was too much, but the logic was that the time spent in writing his work was time his children were deprived...) was raised (for written/literature works) to 70 years after the death of the author! In music the law is a bit more logical, giving only 50 years (I think it still stands) from the original day of recording but I think there might be a bit of legal technicality here, so it might also be the day of release. People should be able to live with their earnings from their work and there is some logic in compensating the children, but there are other aspects of all these "businesses" that are as unfair. The way they distribute the profits from the radio and TV broadcasts. The new contracts for artists, that completely tie them down. The way the internet is used, etc. And once again, dare I say that knowledge alone does not make you a human being. And this proposal although focuses on the loss of incentive and money and productivity and fails to analyse other factors. In a free society, the word is not productivity but offering. And even though this would be a nice start for reducing the corporate mega profits and their evergrowing influence in politics and everyday life, we should also take into consideration that with this proposal the economic system stays intact, and it is just a matter of time to create new leeches.
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Also the link in the text contains a very intresting paper about the internet copyrights. A few days ago we had this discussion on another thread. Facebook is a gigantic corporation that its size and popularity has allowed it to do unethical things and break the law! By doing this, and because of its size, it sets a new set of rules, ethics and if it goes unnoticed and without protest, a new set of laws :
" I have recently removed all my photos from facebook (I had more than my flickr account) as a protest against the rules that were brought to my attention after the buy out of instagram.
After the sale of Instagram, I checked again the terms of facebook use. I found out that the photos, personal data, preferences etc. of the members can be SOLD without their concent and without any compensation!
The user agreement states,
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In respect of Reply # 168, I believe the law will change in Europe later this year, so that the "50 year rule" will become a "70 year rule".
Sony have just released 100 copies (reputedly 100 copies across the whole of Europe, I understand) of a 4 CD set of Dylan out-takes and alternate takes (plus some live material) from 1962. That's 86 tracks in all, none of them previously released officially. Most of them have been available to collectors before (though I don't know if the quality is better on this new "release") but over 20 are not currently circulating. Though I've not seen a set, I'm told that they are in fact CD-Rs (though professionally produced) and they come with a typewritten list of tracks with recording dates and matrix numbers. Already copies are appearing on eBay at a large mark-up. Most likely, these will end up being bootlegged (and possibly "counterfeited" - that's, made to resemble exactly one of the original 100 copies). They are also avaialble in some countries as a download. "Why?", you might ask, "Are they doing it all? And why are they producing these physical copies as well as the download?" Rumour has it that the few shops that have sold this CD set have been required to provide photocopies of the sales receipts. Again, you might ask, "Why?"
Look again at what I wrote in #168. I said that, amongst those manufacturers that have taken advantage of the "50 year rule" in Europe to produce Bob Dylan CDs of material from 1961, there has been a reluctance to include recordings from that year that were not actually released until much later in time. This 4-CD set appears to be a legal move by Sony: by releasing this material now, just ahead of the 1 January 2013 deadline, Sony are setting out to prevent these European manufacturers from issuing "new" Dylan material from 1962.
As I said, it isn't clear to me whether the "50-year rule" applies to this later-released material (that is, material not released at the time but released more recently) or not. Sony have taken the view that, by issuing this officially unreleased material now, albeit in small quantities, it will now be covered by the "50 year rule" starting now. They are building their case for any legal battle that might take place.
Interestingly, Sony has made a decison that it is in their interests to prevent the legal release of this material through regular record shops and on-line sources (quite likely in quite large quantities) and that they are prepared to accept that the recordings will get circulated on bootleg CDs to the more ardent and active Dylan fans (but underground and in much smaller quantities).
I stress that I am no copyright lawyer (indeed, not a lawyer of any kind) but this is the way I see it.
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If I remember correctly the 50 year law in music has to do with the day of the original recording, regardless of the day of the release. This is why the Beatles tried to tackle the situation by throwing in the market remastered and (to some extend) remixed versions. Their strategic move has also included an advertising plan of selling the records mainly as boxsets rather than individual records, although there were issued seperately as well. I guess they had to be certain that one way or another they could win the case or bypass the law.
The Sony incident you present is very intresting and in the same vein, but of course a lot cheaper to execute. I wonder if Dylan has an opinion on this. I mean if he is allowed to have a saying, or the recordings are owned by Sony exclusively.
The big issue is this: if the law is clear on this the only reason for doing all these acts would only be to force them to change the law (as the US congress has already done twice! since 1976-the latter being the "Sonny Bono" act that expanded the rights from 90 years to 100 years!!!! No new free public domain music until 1923 then!) .
If their sales have dropped considerably the last 13 years, these practices won't bring them back up. I guess Dylan has steady sales but not that big to be used as an example. They probably use him only because of his status. I surely hope they don't change the law. 70 years means that we will again lose Miles Davis, Billy Holiday (later work), Charlie Parker, Gerry Mullighan, and many many more from that great era. And all that because of Elvis.The original issue was raised by RCA, since Elvis is the best selling artist of all time and his 1955 recordings were to become public domain.
twm is there a counter-movement? Is there something we can do ? This two standard thing gives me the creeps. I am beginning to thing that if there is public outcry, they will pass the law regardless, but at least in return fight the corporate terms of agreement like the ones from facebook. Of course this would only be a well orchestrated corporate movement to make these changes seem logical, so I guess the only way to fightit is not buying any new music anymore.
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interesting post by someone over on ER:
I think Sony know exactly what they are doing. This was not released in order to have new "product" in the stores, this was released so that Dylan's people/Columbia/Sony have legal leverage to go after and stop out-of-copyright/public domain releases of this material that are legal in Europe (like FREEWHEELIN' RECORDING SESSIONS 1962 due for release in February from BDA). This was a very clever move and I wonder why other artists/record companies have not thought of this before.
This Sony release is more against Bob Dylan as artist than against eventual third parties. According to current EU Directive, if the recording company doesn't use the recordings for 50 years, the artist can legally regain the unusued masters from the label. Practically Bob Dylan could legally get hold of the unusued tapes in the Sony vaults and resell in the UE market. Substantially Dylan could sell the Freewheelin' albums, using the alternate takes.For example, Bob could grant the use of an alternate take of Blowin In The Wind in a movie or a compilation. In this case, Sony Records couldn't have anymore the right to get his share. With this release, Sony records can try to keep his rights on the recordings for other 70 years against claims by Dylan and his eventual heirs. But within the european jurisdiction of the single states, I doubt that a so limited and instrumental release can legally block eventual claims or actions of Bob Dylan and his family.
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Thank you for this new perspective Pottel! Too bad cases like the one of Dylan are few, because artists are not that famous or are long dead. If the artists were more thay would probab;y join forces with their audience...
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In 1973, Clive Davis, head of Columbia Records, reached a deal with Dylan for two albums plus a film soundtrack. One feature of this deal was that Dylan could get the rights to his back catalogue after 5 years, one album at a time, as each new album was released. Thus, an album released in 1963 would revert to him in 1978, five years after the 1973 deal was struck.
Then Davis was fired and Columbia backed away from the deal. Columbia did agree to release the film soundtrack album, as it was so imminent, but Dylan went to sign for Asylum Records. Columbia then released the album entitled DYLAN which was made up of what Dylan called "warm up material" (or some such). Some time later, Dylan re-signed with Columbia and I have often wondered whether the reversion of the old masters element was ever included in subsequent contracts.
What I can say is that, in my opinion, nothing that Sony Columbia now releases in Dylan's name is done without the agreement of Dylan or his agents
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..in your opinion, which, in Bob's case, is not necesarrily worth anything?
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Well, Pottel, I believe that twm explains this very well. Dylan and his agents might have agreed on a release, and Sony might have tricked them by rush releasing this limited edition of 100 and download as well. Sony can later justify it by saying that they no longer believe in physical releases, or that they had to try it first in a semi promo format, before the printed expensive editions. Of course in a corporate world, this would seem rather weird, but we can only speculate without inside info.
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i mean no disrespect to twm, at all. i just doubt anyone really knows what's going on on planet dylan, xcept maybe for people like Knopfler and Barron.
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I said that it is my "opinion" - no more and no less - and I put it no higher than that. It is, however, based on many years (decades, in fact) observing and writing about Dylan and building up and maintaining many contacts. Some of those were directly employed in the music business and others were closely involved if not actually employed.
To be more precise, though, past experience does suggest that Dylan's people have less "control" over what is released outside of the USA. This may or may not be contractually-based but, irrespective of that aspect, the principals involved (that is, in Dylan's office and in Sony) will likely have social as well as business dealings, not to mention social occasions that derive from the business activities - something that happens in many business sectors. In short, the principals know one another personally. These relationships, built up over months and years, will make it difficult for the record company to release something against the wishes of the artist and his representatives. My point is that, as far as Dylan and Sony are concerned, such relationships will be strongest in the USA.
The other thing to bear in mind is that, these days, Dylan does not record in Sony-owned studios and hasn't done so for years. This means that Dylan and his people will have greater control over the masters and the basic tracks.
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i mean no disrespect to twm, at all. i just doubt anyone really knows what's going on on planet dylan, xcept maybe for people like Knopfler and Barron.
:lol
I'm sure it's just a coincidence he signed for Asylum Records! ;D Sorry if that's a bit black for your taste. :o
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It's Elektra/Asylum for you dmg! ;D Soon to be sold for a high profit from the free man in Paris!
Anyway, I was reading a nice biography by Barry Miles, about Frank Zappa and I saw the Dylan's first choice for producing Infidels was Zappa! But his cut has dimmed too high and Dylan then tried Elvis Costello! And when Costello refused due to other obligations, he turned to David Bowie! And only after Bowie's inability to put it in his schedule, did he turn to MK!!! And then MK had to leave for a tour! I only wonder what this album would have sounded with each one of them! And I guess if MK was around for the final selection the album would have been in Dylan's top ten! Now it is top 20, but the position is not fixed yet!
(Blonde on blonde, John Wesley Harding, Oh Mercy, Blood on the tracks, The Freewheelin', Highway 61 revisited, Slow train coming, Desire, Street legal, Bringing it all back home, The Basement tapes, Time out of mind, INFIDELS...)
And a nicely peculiar Dylan site! http://howtolistentodylan.com/square-one.html
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A headline at the time, as I recall, referred to Dylan seeking Asylum but it was as in the sense of "refuge" rather than the meaning to which you allude, dmg.
I was recently reading a biography of David Geffen, who founded Asylum Records, and it has a section on how Geffen wooed Dylan to his label, partly through Robbie Robertson. And, of course, he cosied up to Robertson first, one of the ploys being an all-expenses paid holiday in Paris for Robertson, Robertson's wife, himself and Joni Mitchell, who composed "Free Man In Paris" (for/about Geffen) during this trip.
The genesis of INFIDELS was what I was covering in those extracts from a newsletter I once wrote.
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I didnt know that this "Guitar Stories" promo dvd
http://www.ebay.es/itm/261148673939?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1426.l2649
I wonder if its a dvd-r copy or is it really a promo thing...
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I didnt know that this "Guitar Stories" promo dvd
http://www.ebay.es/itm/261148673939?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1426.l2649
I wonder if its a dvd-r copy or is it really a promo thing...
From memory that's the Sky Arts official logo on it, but they could have downloaded that of course.
Six bidders so far! :o
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The question raised is whether this Sky Arts DVD is genuine. The short answer is that I don't know but the longer answer would be more nuanced.
I have been "involved" in two television programmes to do with Dylan and, in both cases, I was provided with a copy on DVD and neither was a commercial product but a limited edition copy made for those involved in the programme. In both cases, my understanding was that it wasn't a one-off production, just because I'd asked, either but a short production run for others as well as me. Thus, I would not be at all surprised if DVD copies of the programme were made by Sky Arts and, to a limited extent, circulated.
Television companies sometimes make DVDs for other purposes as well, such as trying to sell the programme to other broadcasters or showing prospective subjects of later episodes what the programmes in a series "look like".
This item is described on eBay as a "promo" but this does not mean that it must be, for example, the trailer for the programme. As indicated, it is more likely to be the whole programme. If anyone is interested in bidding, a question to the seller should be able to confirm this.
Talking of the seller, jbaent has it taken off the Spanish eBay site. I assume it's listed on the UK site, too.
I'm no expert and, on balance, it seems to me to be a genuine item.
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Apart from ebay and discogs there are other sites as well, but fixed prices only, like this one!
http://www.cdandlp.com/item/2/0-1105-0-1-0/115520183/dire-straits-advance-cd-dire-straits-sultans-of-swing-16-titres.html
or this one
http://www.gemm.com/c/search.pl?field=ARTIST+OR+TITLE&wild=dire+straits
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Anyone could help and report this item?? ("Signaler l'objet" in French )
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/2dvd-Mark-Knopfler-live-zenith-Lille-5-juin-2005-/200896879010?pt=FR_SK_DVDetCinema_dvd&hash=item2ec66319a2
It's was made by POUPYSTAR ! It's A free DVD and musn't be sold ! PLEASE HELP ELIAN !!!
Thanks For him !
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Thought this might be of interest to (especially) the techie folk around here:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1985-DIRE-STRAITS-MARK-KNOPFLER-STAGE-SET-UP-DIAGRAM-INFORMATION-ARTICLE-/321175093383?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item4ac7870087
and sheet music for Alchemy?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dire-Straits-Alchemy-Live-sheet-music-book-Songbook-Rare-mark-knopfler-guitar-/190868697376?pt=UK_Music_SheetMusic_RL&hash=item2c70a93120
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The first one is a clipping from a magazine. It is interesting but hardly worth the sum. The second is a quite common book with notations. I have it and it is OK.
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The first one is a clipping from a magazine. It is interesting but hardly worth the sum. The second is a quite common book with notations. I have it and it is OK.
I had never heard of the Alchemy one before, but then I'm not really interested in chord books not being a player.
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I have also have or seen LOG, OES, BiA and MFN notation books. MK solo work exists in such books also.
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I have all DS sheet music :
love over gold, Alchemy, Brothers in arms and Money for nothing.
it was when I played piano.
I must admit I bought them also for extra pictures ;)
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This one's pretty unique, given the fact that it is indeed the real deal and not a copy:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTV-VIDEO-MUSIC-AWARD-MOONMAN-DIRE-STRAITS-VMAS-GENUINE-1986-ORIGINAL-BEST-GROUP-/261388952908?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdbfee54c (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTV-VIDEO-MUSIC-AWARD-MOONMAN-DIRE-STRAITS-VMAS-GENUINE-1986-ORIGINAL-BEST-GROUP-/261388952908?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdbfee54c)
The MTV moonman award for the MFN video.
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This one's pretty unique, given the fact that it is indeed the real deal and not a copy:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTV-VIDEO-MUSIC-AWARD-MOONMAN-DIRE-STRAITS-VMAS-GENUINE-1986-ORIGINAL-BEST-GROUP-/261388952908?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdbfee54c (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTV-VIDEO-MUSIC-AWARD-MOONMAN-DIRE-STRAITS-VMAS-GENUINE-1986-ORIGINAL-BEST-GROUP-/261388952908?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdbfee54c)
The MTV moonman award for the MFN video.
Wow! Great find. I wonder how the seller came upon it... :think
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Wow! Great find. I wonder how the seller came upon it... :think
Well I know now how Mark got his Les Pauls, I think this award was one of the investments :D
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It doesn't mean it will sell that high!
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I was always under the impression that at most award ceremonies the recipients took away copies of the awards and the originals were kept by the awarding company (in this case MTV). So if this is the original then it must have been "let go" by MTV. :think
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This one's pretty unique, given the fact that it is indeed the real deal and not a copy:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTV-VIDEO-MUSIC-AWARD-MOONMAN-DIRE-STRAITS-VMAS-GENUINE-1986-ORIGINAL-BEST-GROUP-/261388952908?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdbfee54c (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTV-VIDEO-MUSIC-AWARD-MOONMAN-DIRE-STRAITS-VMAS-GENUINE-1986-ORIGINAL-BEST-GROUP-/261388952908?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdbfee54c)
The MTV moonman award for the MFN video.
Wow! Great find. I wonder how the seller came upon it... :think
wow ! almost $10,000 ? I'll be curious if it will sell. I wonder also how the seller came upon it.???????????
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Well, at least the shipping's free... :)
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Watching the images it makes me wonder what's been stricken from the plaque :think
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Well, at least the shipping's free... :)
"Was for Money for Nothing and it ships for free."
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;D :thumbsup
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Hilarious! :lol
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Wow, have a look at this:
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-ON-EVERY-STREET-Box-Philips-Press-Tour-Edition-N-07-100-PROMO-/321343510897?pt=Vintage_Elettronica_di_consumo&hash=item4ad190d971&_uhb=1
I have seen a lot of items, but this one really is new to me and looks amazing! Amazing price too...
Jeroen
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Also this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Japan-The-Guitars-Of-Mark-Knopfler-Dire-Straits-Gibson-ES-Fender-Gretsch-Gibson-/201047869038?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ecf63066e
This is a japan guitar mag with great photos of MK's guitars, thanks Jeroen for puttin' this up for us by the way!
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I know about that magazine. I scanned the pictures of each guitar and included them to the guitar section of my site. Just one example of the Les Paul Standard from 1958;
http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/MK_guitars_lespaul58c.jpg
Great magazine!
Jeroen
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2900 Euros! An bets if it is going to sell at that price? ;D I wish i had a couple to sell (for 2900 a piece) to get me through the year...
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Wow, have a look at this:
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-ON-EVERY-STREET-Box-Philips-Press-Tour-Edition-N-07-100-PROMO-/321343510897?pt=Vintage_Elettronica_di_consumo&hash=item4ad190d971&_uhb=1
I have seen a lot of items, but this one really is new to me and looks amazing! Amazing price too...
Jeroen
not sure it's an original item: there are at least a couple of details that raise doubts
(and reading what is written in the description, rather ridiculous moreover, I am not the only one to have doubts)
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What kind of details do you mean? To me, the back of the item looks a bit self made with the tourbook and pass on it. There are more Italian items on Ebay that are no official promo items but for which they ask a fortune. Most of them limited to just 100 copies, maybe this OES belongs to the same category, who knows.
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What kind of details do you mean? To me, the back of the item looks a bit self made with the tourbook and pass on it. There are more Italian items on Ebay that are no official promo items but for which they ask a fortune. Most of them limited to just 100 copies, maybe this OES belongs to the same category, who knows.
you have a pm :wave
(for rather obvious reasons I prefer not to disclose these details publicly)
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Hey Rudiger, just for the story can you tell me as well?
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Vassilis, I can't say a definitive word, but I'm glad to share my thoughts
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it does look a bit amateurish indeed....rudi, send me a pm too pls?? grazie mille :-)
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Thanks Rudiger! Changing the subject now, I bet that with the appropriate amount of money we can create something official for AMIT. Can we get in touch with MK management and ask for their permission and make something official and limited just for the members.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-Live-In-Wembley-Arena73-LIVE-in-the-80s-Tiratuta-500-e-100-MINT-/321217666771?pt=Vintage_Elettronica_di_consumo&hash=item4aca109ed3
From the same seller! Wooping price for bootleg recordings! For MK's sake!
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-ON-EVERY-STREET-CD-LONGBOX-USA-PERFETTO-SIGILLATO-RARO-/310422991639?pt=Vintage_Elettronica_di_consumo&hash=item4846a6f317
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-1985-86-Fully-Hand-Signed-Brothers-In-Arms-Tour-Programme-RARE-/141049504391?pt=UK_Music_Music_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item20d734a287
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dire-Straits-Money-for-Nothing-promotional-leather-jacket-/221397077078?pt=AU_MusicMemorabilia&hash=item338c4b4c56
A nice curio:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PROMO-ONLY-DIRE-STRAITS-COMMUNIQUE-SNP-87-/380843062097?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item58ac03f351
And could this be true:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-Love-Over-Gold-Long-Box-Longbox-CD-Brand-New-Sealed-/191092962406?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item2c7e073466
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-ON-EVERY-STREET-CD-LONGBOX-USA-PERFETTO-SIGILLATO-RARO-/310422991639?pt=Vintage_Elettronica_di_consumo&hash=item4846a6f317
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-1985-86-Fully-Hand-Signed-Brothers-In-Arms-Tour-Programme-RARE-/141049504391?pt=UK_Music_Music_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item20d734a287
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dire-Straits-Money-for-Nothing-promotional-leather-jacket-/221397077078?pt=AU_MusicMemorabilia&hash=item338c4b4c56
A nice curio:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PROMO-ONLY-DIRE-STRAITS-COMMUNIQUE-SNP-87-/380843062097?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item58ac03f351
And could this be true:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-Love-Over-Gold-Long-Box-Longbox-CD-Brand-New-Sealed-/191092962406?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item2c7e073466
The OES longbox is not something special: it was released in the late days of longboxes, with just a plain cardboard and a sticker. Not much appetible. The selling price is out of this world: a couple of years ago I've bought my sealed copy for less than 20 USD.
The signed BIA programme is worth what you're willing to pay for signatures.
The leather jacket is out of my field (and my interest): I have no idea about its value
The Japan Communique vinyl is genuine. I know it's quite rare but it seems way overpriced
The LOG longbox is genuine too. A nice piece of the old times, but, even if sealed, it's overpriced. It's not even a first edition and I'm not sure if inside there is the early edition "Made in West Germany" or (more likely) the late "Made in USA" edition. It is worth what a collector is willing to pay, but its intrinsic value should not exceed 70-80 USD
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Thanks for the info rudiger! It is a big world out there for collectors! And as you mention these prices is out of this world! I am just a bit skeptical about the authenticity of some, due to their showing up in Asia, (Korea, Hong Kong etc.) I guess we (when I say we, I mean DS/MK fans as a whole) are responsible for some of the prices, because we sometimes buy things we believe that are harder to find than they actually are.
By the way, do the longboxes fold in and make a regular CD (digi or jewel case) or are they always like this? I have an INXS longbox, but it gives instructions how to fold it and make it a digipac.
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By the way, do the longboxes fold in and make a regular CD (digi or jewel case) or are they always like this? I have an INXS longbox, but it gives instructions how to fold it and make it a digipac.
The longboxes (usually) remain as they are. They have inside a standard jewelcase that houses the CD.
Yours is supposed to be a special eco pack, designed to reduce the environmental impact
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Thanks rudiger. I suppose you keep yours intact and sealed. I would as well!
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Wow, have a look at this:
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-ON-EVERY-STREET-Box-Philips-Press-Tour-Edition-N-07-100-PROMO-/321343510897?pt=Vintage_Elettronica_di_consumo&hash=item4ad190d971&_uhb=1
I have seen a lot of items, but this one really is new to me and looks amazing! Amazing price too...
Jeroen
another one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-PHILIPS-PRESENTS-PRESS-TOUR-BOXSET-PROMO-ONLY-NOT-FOR-SALE-/291109828824?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item43c77f78d8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-PHILIPS-PRESENTS-PRESS-TOUR-BOXSET-PROMO-ONLY-NOT-FOR-SALE-/291109828824?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item43c77f78d8)
and now....................let's wait for the other 98 copies :lol
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Regardless of the points made, this must have a great cost to create. But 2500$ is overpriced, anyway...
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Regardless of the points made, this must have a great cost to create. But 2500$ is overpriced, anyway...
30-40 euro the content, 20 euro for the box..... :thumbsdown
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OK about the content, but if it is leather, custom made boxes and design, hot stamp for embossing leather etc, for 100 copies, it might be a bit more expensive, like 50-60 Euros.
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OK about the content, but if it is leather, custom made boxes and design, hot stamp for embossing leather etc, for 100 copies, it might be a bit more expensive, like 50-60 Euros.
ok, let's say 100 euro in total. How can you justify a price of 2900 euro (the first) and 2500 USD? What you buy is a bunch of cheap promos and a box of dubious taste and zero collecting value.
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Yes, and Gilbert and George can their crap and sell them to people. As long as there are people buying they will keep putting them in cans. ;D
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Like french humorist "Coluche" said : "quand on pense qu'il suffirait que les gens arr
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Some interesting comments.
Back in the day, I vaguely recall that several record companies' PR departments seemed to think that producing large but limited edition promo box sets would impress journalists and thereby help sell their artists' output. As for collectability, such box sets do offer very little to a fan in terms of content but, nevertheless, are desirable to some - and it only takes one person to buy. if two people desire it and have deep pockets, the price could go up and up.
I agree about Gilbert and George. I have never understood the attraction of their works but it is all a matter of taste. I would love to own something from the 1960s by Bridget Riley but could never afford it, while I couldn't pay enough to persuade others to stick one of her works on the wall. Ditto Roy Lichtenstein.
As for Colouche's humour, it is lost on me, I'm afraid. It seems more a statement of the obvious but I guess I'm missing the point.
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Have you noticed that the front cover of this second found box is different from the first one? It does not have that little window through which you can see the pin inside the box. I would presume that if you make a limited set of something, each set is identical, except for the special numbering of course. Dubious!
Jeroen
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Some interesting comments.
Back in the day, I vaguely recall that several record companies' PR departments seemed to think that producing large but limited edition promo box sets would impress journalists and thereby help sell their artists' output. As for collectability, such box sets do offer very little to a fan in terms of content but, nevertheless, are desirable to some - and it only takes one person to buy. if two people desire it and have deep pockets, the price could go up and up.
I agree about Gilbert and George. I have never understood the attraction of their works but it is all a matter of taste. I would love to own something from the 1960s by Bridget Riley but could never afford it, while I couldn't pay enough to persuade others to stick one of her works on the wall. Ditto Roy Lichtenstein.
As for Colouche's humour, it is lost on me, I'm afraid. It seems more a statement of the obvious but I guess I'm missing the point.
I want to point out that when I wrote "zero collecting value" I was referring to the fact that I consider this promo box a fake, not officially released by any record company but home made to attract inexperienced collectors. Of course it's my personal opinion and everyone is free to think differently
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Have you noticed that the front cover of this second found box is different from the first one? It does not have that little window through which you can see the pin inside the box. I would presume that if you make a limited set of something, each set is identical, except for the special numbering of course. Dubious!
Jeroen
yes, but the second box has one more sticker ;D
seriously, you already know my thoughts and I don't need for further confirmation.
Changing the subject, this is genuine. The price though ....Not sooo rare
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dire-Straits-On-The-Night-ULTRARARE-Promobox-In-PR-VHS-CD-Tourprog-/291103946071?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMESINDXX%3AIT&nma=true&si=OZUVzb54mkc%252BJ1OWyxShL2zvJZU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dire-Straits-On-The-Night-ULTRARARE-Promobox-In-PR-VHS-CD-Tourprog-/291103946071?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMESINDXX%3AIT&nma=true&si=OZUVzb54mkc%252BJ1OWyxShL2zvJZU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)
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I know that one, I have it myself;
http://oneverybootleg.nl/officially_owned_otnpromobox.htm
The one with the small astronomer looks the greatest though...
Jeroen
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I know that one, I have it myself;
http://oneverybootleg.nl/officially_owned_otnpromobox.htm
The one with the small astronomer looks the greatest though...
Jeroen
my copy is like yours (and like the one on ebay). The small telescope is a little jewel :)
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As for Colouche's humour, it is lost on me, I'm afraid. It seems more a statement of the obvious but I guess I'm missing the point.
Out of context this is not funny at all, but in Coluche's mouth it definitively was.
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As for Colouche's humour, it is lost on me, I'm afraid. It seems more a statement of the obvious but I guess I'm missing the point.
Out of context this is not funny at all, but in Coluche's mouth it definitively was.
Yes of course it's not funny out of context, and it wasn't pertinent to post it here, but i couldn't resist :smack
this sentence is from the sketch "Mis
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Don't underestimate the British humour, JF! After all many such obvious statements were made funny by Monty Pythons and Fry & Laurie, amongst others!
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I never have the intention to underestimate the British humour,
I am found of the monty pythons :)
life of Brian is one of my fav movies, and I remember watching flying circus every day in early 90ies when it was re-broadcatsed on the Arte TV channel
in another genre, I also love woody allen's humour
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I like french humour.
Inspector Clouseau is hilarious.
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I like french humour.
Inspector Clouseau is hilarious.
;D ;D Scottish humour!
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indeed.
a french inspector...... but played by THE british actor :D
I find Sellers far more hilarious in The party, one of my other fav movies :thumbsup
his indian accent makes me laughing every time
an every time I heard Ravi Shankar's introduction at the concert for Bangladesh, I immediately think at Peter Sellers in The party :
"if you like the tunning so much, I think you will appreciate the playing more" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
the greatest misunderstanding from the crowd in rock history :lol :lol :lol
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Humor is english.
Spirit is french.
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I like french humour.
Inspector Clouseau is hilarious.
;D ;D Scottish humour!
Like that one Dusty. :thumbsup
Being serious, I do love the original Blake Edwards Pink Panther films with Peter Sellars and Herbert Lom. Indeed Lom is one of my favourite actors. So underrated.
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:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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I do, of course, accept the many points made here - context is important to find something funny, the problems of translation, cultural differences and so on. Thank you, jf, for providing a bit of background. My French is pretty basic, I'm afraid. I once bought "Jacques Brel - Une Vie" by Olivier Todd and it has been struggle, as I can only manage it in fits and starts.
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Another nice item on Ebay;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTV-VIDEO-MUSIC-AWARD-MOONMAN-DIRE-STRAITS-VMAS-GENUINE-1986-ORIGINAL-BEST-GROUP-/261435843099?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdeca621b
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indeed.
a french inspector...... but played by THE british actor :D
I find Sellers far more hilarious in The party, one of my other fav movies :thumbsup
his indian accent makes me laughing every time
an every time I heard Ravi Shankar's introduction at the concert for Bangladesh, I immediately think at Peter Sellers in The party :
"if you like the tunning so much, I think you will appreciate the playing more" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
the greatest misunderstanding from the crowd in rock history :lol :lol :lol
the party...a legendary movie.....aaahhh the memories...
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Another nice item on Ebay;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTV-VIDEO-MUSIC-AWARD-MOONMAN-DIRE-STRAITS-VMAS-GENUINE-1986-ORIGINAL-BEST-GROUP-/261435843099?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdeca621b
Well this time he actually forgot to put black rectangle on award owner's name, so we can acknowledge it's Ed Bicknell's figurine.
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So it is the same?
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yes, it's the same. This time he asks almost 2000 USD less
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I don't want to sound persecutory, but how can you sell 2 times the same object? Unless there are many copies numbered 007/100 :lol
Seriously, I guess that he has opened two auctions for the same item (which says a lot about the reliability of the seller)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-ON-EVERY-STREET-Box-Philips-Press-Tour-Edition-N-07-100-PROMO-/321343510897?pt=Vintage_Elettronica_di_consumo&hash=item4ad190d971 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-ON-EVERY-STREET-Box-Philips-Press-Tour-Edition-N-07-100-PROMO-/321343510897?pt=Vintage_Elettronica_di_consumo&hash=item4ad190d971)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/M-KNOPFLER-DIRE-STRAITS-ON-EVERY-STREET-Box-Philips-Press-Tour-Ed-N-07-PROMO-/310912872458?pt=Vintage_Elettronica_di_consumo&hash=item4863d9f00a (http://www.ebay.com/itm/M-KNOPFLER-DIRE-STRAITS-ON-EVERY-STREET-Box-Philips-Press-Tour-Ed-N-07-PROMO-/310912872458?pt=Vintage_Elettronica_di_consumo&hash=item4863d9f00a)
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ebay scolds for cases less serious... Anyway, doesn't worth it going down that road. Even if I had the money and it was 100% genuine, it would be the last thing to buy. But the statue is a thing of beauty, unfortunately with the asking money I pay a year of rent for my house ...
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I just came across this: http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/cd-s-en-dvd-s/vinyl-singles/m793445279-dire-straits-mark-knopfler-money-for-nothing.html?c=8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b&previousPage=lr
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Relatively easy to find, one of my first steps of collecting DS on vinyl!
One of the two picture discs in the DS catalog, I guess the easier of the two.
It used to go for 1/3 of the price 10-15 years ago. I don't know if it has become so scarce or the inflation has grown so big.
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Relatively easy to find, one of my first steps of collecting DS on vinyl!
One of the two picture discs in the DS catalog, I guess the easier of the two.
you've forgotten one BIA :)
(http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/official_single_biapicture_c.jpg) (http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/official_single_biapicture2disc_c.jpg)
It used to go for 1/3 of the price 10-15 years ago. I don't know if it has become so scarce or the inflation has grown so big.
it depends .....on the circumstances
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-MONEY-FOR-NOTHING-7-SHAPED-PICTURE-DISC-WITH-PLINTH-1983-/371032524455?pt=UK_Records&hash=item56634306a7 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-MONEY-FOR-NOTHING-7-SHAPED-PICTURE-DISC-WITH-PLINTH-1983-/371032524455?pt=UK_Records&hash=item56634306a7)
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Stand corrected! Thanks rudiger! Have all three, but forgotten about the round one! Maybe because I got it last, when some of my enthusiasm has evaporated. ;) And there are also a couple of interview discs from baktabak (or something like that) that are picture discs as well, but not official.
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Some of them can be found even now, but the prices are out of here...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dire-Straits-Money-For-Nothing-Shaped-Picture-Disc-Unplayed-With-RARE-Plinth-/301136579825?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item461d238cf1
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dire-Straits-Money-For-Nothing-Collectors-Picture-Disc-UK-Import-45-RPM-/380811644562?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item58aa248e92
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-SHAPED-PICTURE-DISC-/360703066641?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item53fb940211
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dire-Straits-Brothers-in-arms-NEW-MINT-LTD-PICTURE-DISC-7-inch-vinyl-single-/371029079978?pt=UK_Records&hash=item56630e77aa
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dire-Straits-RARE-Interview-Picture-Disc-EX-/141233716583?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item20e22f7d67
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www.ebay.com/itm/371032524455?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
started low, ended very high! 50 Euros including shipping!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-Stratocaster-Mark-Knopfler-USA-/331173107927?pt=Guitar&hash=item4d1b7498d7
for USA fans, this guitar, in low starting price!
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prosit! ;D
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAwMFg3NTA=/z/vA4AAOxyUgtTLsnV/$_57.JPG)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mark-Knopfler-Dire-Straits-Get-Lucky-Flachmann-Pocket-Flask-Neu-Original-/191111719736?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEDWX%3AIT&nma=true&si=OZUVzb54mkc%252BJ1OWyxShL2zvJZU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mark-Knopfler-Dire-Straits-Get-Lucky-Flachmann-Pocket-Flask-Neu-Original-/191111719736?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEDWX%3AIT&nma=true&si=OZUVzb54mkc%252BJ1OWyxShL2zvJZU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)
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Did you know about these playing cards?
http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=601395
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yes. when shangri-la was released they appeared quite often on ebay.
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They went under my radar. I guess 2004 was one of these years! :lol
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There's one of these things up for sale and it looks quite interesting, especially if the indicated track lengths are correct. Does anyone know anything about this e.g. are they the same versions but not faded out (this can't apply to WII which is longer but not faded out on the album anyway and is even longer than the Mexican promo)? Or are they alternate versions? Or, most likely of all, are the indicated track lengths incorrect?
http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=166604
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Actually I can't trust to CD with
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apart from Silvertown blues which is 5:30, all other tracks are longer on my UK CD.... :hmm
so I guess it's just silvertown blues that is incorrect :think
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Actually I can't trust to CD with
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apart from Silvertown blues which is 5:30, all other tracks are longer on my UK CD.... :hmm
so I guess it's just silvertown blues that is incorrect :think
An extra 30s on Silvertown sounds very nice indeed though! :P
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Some fan got it. Probably an AMITer? Let's ask!
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A late reply, but I just received this promo CD this week and can tell you that Silvertown Blues is unfortunately (!!) NOT 6 minutes long as the back cover indicates:
http://oneverybootleg.nl/officially_owned_stp15.htm
Kind regards,
Jeroen
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Jeroen, is there a way to tell if such a disc is official? Especially with the "acetates".
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A late reply, but I just received this promo CD this week and can tell you that Silvertown Blues is unfortunately (!!) NOT 6 minutes long as the back cover indicates:
http://oneverybootleg.nl/officially_owned_stp15.htm
Kind regards,
Jeroen
Thanks for the confirmation Jeroen. I think we all had our doubts!
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I heard that a very very rare cd acetate exists that has not only the STP songs we know but "What it is" has the extra verse that was available in a Mexican cdsingle, a different version of "Speedway" and "Red Staggerwing" and "Donkeytown", that originally were planned to be released in STP, but in the end were shelved until the release of "All the Roadrunning" cd with Emmylou Harris.
I never saw it by myself but it would be a great jewel to find!
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I heard that a very very rare cd acetate exists that has not only the STP songs we know but "What it is" has the extra verse that was available in a Mexican cdsingle, a different version of "Speedway" and "Red Staggerwing" and "Donkeytown", that originally were planned to be released in STP, but in the end were shelved until the release of "All the Roadrunning" cd with Emmylou Harris.
I never saw it by myself but it would be a great jewel to find!
That would be interesting. Good info!
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" is there a way to tell if such a disc is official? Especially with the "acetates". "
The STP promo I listed is no acetate but a silver pressed CD, but I get your point. To be honest, I have no idea how to say if a promo is originally released by the record company. On the other hand, I think it would be strange to release fake promos as I doubt that there would be really a market for that. When someone releases a fake promo, the only obvious reason for me would be to make money out of it. And since the STP promo I listed is very hard to find, I can only assume it is an official promo released in small quantaties. If it was released to make money out of it, I would expect that we could find it very easily on Ebay for example. When it comes to acetates promos, it is a different case I think as everybody can burn a CD-R and make a print on the CD with a printer. I would not know how to identify a CDR promo as official or fake. Nowadays, it seems more and more acetates are made, way cheaper compared to the silver pressed ones which are made with injection moulding and requires a relative expensive mould to start with.
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Thank you Jeroen! I think that some MK acetates had a special inaudible serial number, which could be retrieved from the company in case of a leak, that pointed exactly to the original recipient. I guess if someone wanted to make acetates it would be easy as you mention. I miss the special made vinyl promo releases (there are DS singles with mono versions of songs, something rarely mentioned here!)
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What would be the reason to release a mono version as a promo? To make it less atractive compared to stereo so people who own the promo also buy the official release?
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In the late 70ies and early 80ies, radio was still very strong. And despite the use of hi-fi systems or the "modern stereo boom boxes, most households had old fashion mono radios. As such a mono version that usually has more "punch" was more suitable! The singles had both stereo and mono versions, so the Djs, knowing their target groups better, could decide which one to play. Of course most groups went with stereo anyway, so DS are one of the last examples to issue mono versions, but they did!
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Interesting to know, thanks!
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http://www.45cat.com/artist/dire-straits/us
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Just a thought. Sometimes I find many nice things from MK/DS and if by any chance I have spare money I bid. I probably bid against some of the AMITers. Which is a shame because have I known that there is someone else from here that wishes to have the same thing, I wouldn't bid against. It is a shame to raise the price and usually bow out in the end but not before I make them pay good money, when with a bit of collaboration and patience all people can get what they want at a cheaper price. Of course there are many DS/MK fans that are not here in AMIT and in some cases there are those that buy in order to resell in much higher prices. But is there a formula to make it work?
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post here, asap. not sure what else can be done...
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I am not sure either Pottel. A few years back, with some of my friends (now all gone abroad) I used to know their wish lists and they knew mine. I had my eyes open for all and they had theirs as well. I guess there would be some tension in case of a rare item, or of a strong desire to have at once. But for more common items that pop up more often it would be nice to have a common understanding.
OK, let's see if it can work.
There is a seller from the USA that has many items, some hard to find some common. Follow this link and check his items!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171607923760?_trksid=p2060778.m1431.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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strange collection of things....
only the vcd's would possibly interest me. what do you want from his list?
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From the VCDs I only miss Alchemy. I have the rest as they are and a different edition of the SOS VCD but I don't mind that much. But I miss most of the radio programs and some of the bootlegs. Here is a screen shot of what I am bidding on, which is pretty much what I am going after. Already outbid on some. It is still early on and the hard to find will probably fetch twice, three or more times the current bid, so out of my reach. Nevertheless, I have already contacted the seller and he offers combined shipping for larger parcels with many CDs, for 26$.
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Although there are interesting items, for contingent reasons, I'm not going to make offers. Anyway, it's easy to predict that some radio show will reach quite substantial figures.
You may like to know that the Encores CD single is the Australian edition and that, despite the sticker on the jewelcase, the Going Home CD is not the promo version (it lacks of the relative writing on the disc label)
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Hello Rudiger! Thank you for the information. Interesting and informative as always! :wave
Yes, it is the first time I see some of these radio shows and 2 of them I never knew existed, or at least in CD format. I wonder how rare can they be, in actual numbers.
A couple of them I have seen go in the past for over 50 Euros, but maybe the demand is not so great anymore. Or is it? ;)
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I'm afraid that the Timothy White and some other live show are still in demand.
By the way, if someone (here) were to win one of the radio-shows with "custom" cover, it would be interesting to know if (as I guess) the cover is homemade.
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Now that you mention it, I wondered about the RAH one which I have come by it without covers.
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i thought the title of biggest collector is split between an italian and a spanish amigo? :-)
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i thought the title of biggest collector is split between an italian and a spanish amigo? :-)
that would be really good for the spanish guy :)
keep talking...
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http://www.ebay.com/sch/ds_luxury_eyewear/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
Seems that people with many fine DS/MK things on their possession sell right now. Don't know why, now, maybe because of the new release? Anyway. This seller has many fine things. He had the Communique tour book as well (my ebay alert) but sold right away, before I even blink...
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As I understand it from friends who know something about these things, Italy is also the home of one the major counterfeiters (of "Mr Bob" items, anyway).
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As I understand it from friends who know something about these things, Italy is also the home of one the major counterfeiters (of "Mr Bob" items, anyway).
:think The sky is blue
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I put in ebay two rare items in vinyl, just in case any of you are searching for them.
I paid quite a lot for them in the past so I hope the bids end covering that.
- Dire Straits first lp missprint, first Spanish edition with 1972 date instead 1978
http://www.ebay.es/itm/121879092812?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (http://www.ebay.es/itm/121879092812?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)
- Dire Straits Sultans/Southbound single, Belgium release with the Warner bros vinyl, quite rare, specially by the cover, which is a draw of the band members
http://www.ebay.es/itm/121879105176?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (http://www.ebay.es/itm/121879105176?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-Live-In-Wembley-Arena73-LIVE-in-the-80s-Tiratuta-500-e-100-MINT-/281493238015?hash=item418a4df0ff:g:9j0AAOSw1XdUYN1H
Now how about that! Selling two CDs for 1500 Euros! No matter how rare they may be...
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-Live-In-Wembley-Arena73-LIVE-in-the-80s-Tiratuta-500-e-100-MINT-/281493238015?hash=item418a4df0ff:g:9j0AAOSw1XdUYN1H
Now how about that! Selling two CDs for 1500 Euros! No matter how rare they may be...
yes indeed live in wembley Arena 1973 , that is very rare ! :smack :lol :lol :lol :lol
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-Live-In-Wembley-Arena73-LIVE-in-the-80s-Tiratuta-500-e-100-MINT-/281493238015?hash=item418a4df0ff:g:9j0AAOSw1XdUYN1H
Now how about that! Selling two CDs for 1500 Euros! No matter how rare they may be...
yes indeed live in wembley Arena 1973 , that is very rare ! :smack :lol :lol :lol :lol
not so rare
there were plenty in Italy, that's where they were created
Limited edition of only 100.
Seems like it's the ubiquitous Boston '79 bootleg, I would guess.
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Wembley 10/7/85 plus Alchemy songs
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I have a 1996 Golden Heart leather jacket that I found about 15 years ago. In 2008, Guy saw it and asked about it. He told us then that Mark gave these at the end of the tour to the band and roadies. He said he had one, himself. The inside sewn in label says "Golden Heart" It's a very precious possession for me.
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Done. :)
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Mark Knopfler Replica Puppet KIT Calling Elvis Video Studio Scale
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dire-Straits-Mark-Knopfler-Replica-Puppet-KIT-Calling-Elvis-Video-Studio-Scale-/262405494061?hash=item3d1896152d:g:w4QAAOSwT5tWJ85G
PS. what about making this thread sticky ?
Good value kit. There's even an option to make an up-to-date Mark (shown in picture 3). :lol
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Hello, Cant work out how to post again. so clicked modify I got o Todd Cambio fraulini facebook page and asked him, his reply is below. got here, but here goes. A few years ago i bought a guitar that was on ebay. The chap brought it up from London to Derbyshire. After i bought it he told me that it was Mark Knoflers and Mark had a new one brought over from USA by the Luthier Todd Cambio. I never thought twice about it i was so pleased with it, till a friend a couple of weeks ago said that to a collector of guitars it might pay worth a lot more money than i paid for it. The Fraulini 12 string leadbelly guitar was, according to "Doug Moe" website played by Mark at Madison "BoB dylan tour. David Atkinson who sold me the guitar and can be seen and heard playing the guitar on youtube if you search for David Atkinson pony blues.
This is some guitar. So i reckon there are bargains on ebay, depends Fraulini Guitar Co. Hi Geoff,
"David's guitar did belong to Knopfler, but now he has a different one. I don't know of any Fraulinis for sale in the UK. If I find out about one, I can put you in touch with the seller"
best wishes
geoff
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Hello,
Am not computerised, so not sure how i got here, but here goes. A few years ago i bought a guitar that was on ebay. The chap brought it up from London to Derbyshire. After i bought it he told me that it was Mark Knoflers and Mark had a new one brought over from USA by the Luthier Todd Cambio. I never thought twice about it i was so pleased with it, till a friend a couple of weeks ago said that to a collector of guitars it might pay worth a lot more money than i paid for it. The Fraulini 12 string leadbelly guitar was, according to "Doug Moe" website played by Mark at Madison "BoB dylan tour. David Atkinson who sold me the guitar and can be seen and heard playing the guitar on youtube if you search for David Atkinson pony blues.
This is some guitar. So i reckon there are bargains on ebay, depends who you are dealing with, think i was lucky!
best wishes
geoff
Never known Mark to play this guitar before but it doesn't mean he never has. Sometimes he will play someones else's guitar like, for example the Chet Atkins show in '87.
Blind Willie McTell used a 12 string in the '20s and MK and BD collaborated on a song called Blind Willie McTell so some confusion there possibly.
Anyone else have any ideas?
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Googled and it says MK bought one, can't see anything else. :)
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Hello,
"The Knopfler connection came when the former Dire Straits musician’s guitar technician discovered one of Cambio’s Leadbelly 12-string reproductions for sale at a high-end Boston music store. Knopfler was not completely happy with the tuning pegs. Cambio delivered a new guitar to England, and while he never did meet Knopfler, he heard from numerous sources that Knopfler played the instrument on stage in Madison last year during his tour with Bob Dylan." David Atkinson, a London based musician, bought the first 12 string Francesca from Todd Cambio and later had a LR bags pickup installed. I had always wanted this kind of guitar so got in touch with David Atkinson who travelled up to Chesterfield with it. David told me that was going country and was going to get a very expensive country pedal guitar setup "forgot what they call em" . I loved the very different sound this guitar makes, David didn't tell me the story till after I'd bought it, don't know what the issue was about the tuning pegs they are brill and in keeping with the historic effect.
Just for info ,
Todd Cambio is a luthier based in Madison, WI who specializes in recreating some of the classic, and often mythical, early 20th century guitars from makers such as Lyon & Healy, Larsen Bros., Regal, and the like. The Francesca twelve-string reproduces the tone and feel of one of the most sought after twelve-strings of all time. It is an auditorium-sized instrument, based on the classic ladder-braced Oscar Schmidt designs of the early 20th century. With it's long baritone scale, it is tuned down 2 or 2-1/2 steps, to as low as B in the bass!! The combination of body size, tuning and ladder-bracing creates a huge, brawny sound that bowls over player and listener alike. A great accompaniment to vocals, Both Leadbelly and Blind Willie McTell used 12-string guitars of this design during their careers.
In fact, Cambio custom-built this particular Francesca to be an authentic recreation of Leadbelly's famous Stella 12-string. The purfling is an exact replica of what was used on the fanciest Stella guitars, including of course, Leadbelly's. The tailpiece is handmade by Todd Cambio as well, and is a replica of the old style 12-string tailpieces that accepted both ball and loop-end strings. The tuners are handmade in Italy, and are without question the finest 6-on-a-side in existence.
Upgraded German Spruce top and braces
Mahogany back and sides
Custom $500 Italian tuners
Reply from Tod Cambio, confirms the story and that MK has a different one?
geoff
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Here's the set list.
http://bobdylan.com/date/2012-11-05-alliant-energy-center/
My recollection was that MK played his Les Paul on all the guest slots except the last one where he played a modified MK Strat on Forever Young but I could be wrong. :)
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http://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/index.php/2012dylan/5th_Nov_2012_-_Madison_WI
GF picture from the gig with LP. Again, doesn't mean he didn't play the 12 string. :)
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Hello,
I am really impressed, It's the first time i've been on websites, forums, and facebooks etc, all the info that that can be found, the pics you put up, great!
Best wishes,
geoff
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If you think all stuff about guitars on the internet is good, just wait till you see the pornography.
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Hello,
When we first got a computer, a friend who makes fancy walking sticks came to try to get us going on it, so he typed in walking sticks...We got a load of porn?, dont know why, we both rushed round trying to find our glasses, but then the wife came in room so had to press the switch off button, quick.
Best wishes
geoff
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Hello,
When we first got a computer, a friend who makes fancy walking sticks came to try to get us going on it, so he typed in walking sticks...We got a load of porn?, dont know why, we both rushed round trying to find our glasses, but then the wife came in room so had to press the switch off button, quick.
Best wishes
geoff
:smack
Walking sticks...what search engine were you using there? Just so I know to avoid it.
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It's only between records and/or tours we see this kind of epic posting. ;D
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hello,
I reckon it must have been a typing error.
Neither of us has great eyesight,
best wishes
geoff
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hello,
I reckon it must have been a typing error.
Neither of us has great eyesight,
best wishes
geoff
Ha! I've been accused of being a bit of a walker at times. ;)
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hello,
I reckon it must have been a typing error.
Neither of us has great eyesight,
best wishes
geoff
Ha! I've been accused of being a bit of a walker at times. ;)
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:lol
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And all this out of a thread about a guitar.
Maybe the search went like this.
Walking sticks - bad knees - Cure for bad knees - Cure - Pornography
That should explain a lot of things
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hello,
I reckon it must have been a typing error.
Neither of us has great eyesight,
best wishes
geoff
Ha! I've been accused of being a bit of a walker at times. ;)
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:lol
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Hello, its me again, Last night i put the Fraulini Francesca guitar, x mark Knopler's on a free to advertise "preloved" site and selected "Make Me an offer" it was too complicated on ebay and they want a percentage. on preloved its pick up only ...i think ,, I reckon if a collector wants it, i could afford a new one, and maybe get a resonator to mess with.
Best wishes
geoff
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Put the link up here Geoff. :)
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http://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/115357225/guitar.html?link=%2Fsearch%3Fkeyword%3Dknopfler
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Hello,
Thanks for putting in that link, i was stumped!. I am well out of my depth, so please forgive if I'm doing something against the natural order of forum rules. My Mk knowledge is limited, I saw dire straits on old grey whistle test years ago, talking point of all friends for a week, bought the L.P. played it incessantly.
You will know that Steve Philips and band plays at The Grovesner Hotel at Robin Hood's bay every Tuesday. When MK is up this way he has called in for jam.
Question, anyone know, does this still happen?
geoff
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Early ticket stub from Newcastle Poly 1978:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191960799708?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
80p to see DS in those days!!!
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Nice. It comes to mind how great a reprint of such an early Ticket would have been for the Deluxe Box instead of a fake one from 1996.
(Watched many special items from Queen the last couple of days on YouTube. One wants to send Paul Crockford a list of links and items to show him what's possible and what deserves the word "Deluxe")
LE
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By the way, couple of weeks ago I didn't win an auction: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MARK-KNOPFLER-DIRE-STRAITS-5-Guitar-Tablature-Edition-/182247832366?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEDWX%3AIT&nma=true&si=ofSvx0j%252Bzju95ZVyh78s9EJ%252FPzA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Five Tab Books (Golden Heart, Sailing To Philadelphia, The Ragpicker's Dream, Screenplaying + Jam With DS) went off for rediculous 177€.
If any of you have one of these (especially GH, STP or RPD), please let me know because I would buy it.
Not because I really need it, but I just love music being printed on the paper. Thanks!
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Maybe you know that I work in a bookstore.. I am pretty sure I have seen them in the catalogue last week or so and they are still available "officially". Will check tomorrow as I have a day off today. ;-)
LE
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Maybe you know that I work in a bookstore.. I am pretty sure I have seen them in the catalogue last week or so and they are still available "officially". Will check tomorrow as I have a day off today. ;-)
LE
Wow! It would be so great, you know I'll appreciate this a lot. I seen Golden Heart floating on eBay, but never The Ragpicker's Dream.
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It seems that the Ragpicker's dream is quite hard to find. I used to buy some tab music, but they are quite expensive even at list price, so I gave them up. They usually have some nice unique photos, even for those that do not buy them for the music.
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It seems that the Ragpicker's dream is quite hard to find. I used to buy some tab music, but they are quite expensive even at list price, so I gave them up. They usually have some nice unique photos, even for those that do not buy them for the music.
Yeah, I really don't know why I want it so much, but my last bid was around $160. Even though I witnessed just ONE page from "The Ragpicker's Dream Tab Book " and it was full of mistakes. No capo in a particular song (It was "Marbletown"), wrong chords, etc.
So wrong, so expensive, but I still want it... just like many people get exited about the new iPhone I suppose ;D
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I have the STP one, you can have it if you want it. :)
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Ok I checked and it seems I was promising too much ..
Still available according to our book catalogue are the tab books of
-Neck and Neck (19 €)
-Get Lucky (22 €)
-Kill To Get Crimson (21 €)
All need three to four weeks shipping. No Ragpicker I'm afraid!
LE
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At least you can have it in Kindle version:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MARK-KNOPFLER-RAGPICKERS-DREAM-TAB/dp/0711997802
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MK Stratocaster on Ebay!! $1400 US and Buy it Now. Only 4 pics, but looks to be in nice condition. Hope someone can grab it!!
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MK Stratocaster on Ebay!! $1400 US and Buy it Now. Only 4 pics, but looks to be in nice condition. Hope someone can grab it!!
It's gone but MAN! People are strange. One sells MK Strat with too much of a price, another sells in with photos taken by Nokia 3310.
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I have the STP one, you can have it if you want it. :)
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WOW, actually I want STP even more than RPD! If we can negotiate it, of course I would buy it.
Maybe you need something I happen to have? :hmm
Ok I checked and it seems I was promising too much ..
Still available according to our book catalogue are the tab books of
-Neck and Neck (19 €)
-Get Lucky (22 €)
-Kill To Get Crimson (21 €)
All need three to four weeks shipping. No Ragpicker I'm afraid!
LE
Thank you LE! Yes, I knew Ragpicker is discontinued, so this eBay auction was basically all about this book I suppose.
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You are welcome to just have it or pay postage or whatever. Or if you have something to swap then great. :) I bought it in Liverpool in 2002 after seeing Paul Simon but before seeing MK at Shepherds Bush but I don't think I have ever looked at it.
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You are welcome to just have it or pay postage or whatever. Or if you have something to swap then great. :) I bought it in Liverpool in 2002 after seeing Paul Simon but before seeing MK at Shepherds Bush but I don't think I have ever looked at it.
Great idea, I'll search for something to swap, although I wouldn't consider myself a diehard type of fan or collector, I don't have too much stuff at all. Well, I have STP recording with Mark's signature on it, some box sets and vinyls... and tickets of course. Tracker tour book also.
I'll PM you when I would come up with something.
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Cool, if you have some vinyl that I don't have that's great but honestly you can just have it, I haven't looked at it in 14 years. :)
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Hi quizzaciously, I am interested in the Tracker tour book, if Dustyvalentino doens't want it :)
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Hi quizzaciously, I am interested in the Tracker tour book, if Dustyvalentino doens't want it :)
Time to open the "Can't sell it, won't throw it" section :lol
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Take it you don't want to sell it then
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I. Must. Win. This.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mark-Knopfler-Guitar-Styles-Two-Part-Book-Set-Official-Guitar-Tablature-/152239114171?hash=item23722887bb:g:aEUAAOSwFV9X1r3y&autorefresh=true
Take it you don't want to sell it then
No, I didn't say I don't want to sell it, we can negotiate how to get all this done, I still need to contact dustyvalentino, too. All in good time :)
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Just pm me your address and I'll post the book. :)
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I just won 2 books by the title "Mark Knopfler Guitar Styles", two volumes, brand new, for 3 (three) pounds. Am I lucky or what?
And there's Golden Heart tab book on eBay for sale, I'm gonna win it as well. I'll collect all the MK tab books possible! *evil laughter*.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfUM5xHUY4M
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Spery, I haven't posted STP yet but I will. :)
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TEENAGE CANCER TRUST 2003 CONCERT PROGRAMME, COLDPLAY ERIC CLAPTON MARK KNOPFLER
(http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/NQgAAOSw4shX6S7-/s-l225.jpg)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TEENAGE-CANCER-TRUST-2003-CONCERT-PROGRAMME-COLDPLAY-ERIC-CLAPTON-MARK-KNOPFLER-/222262129446?hash=item33bfdaf326:g:NQgAAOSw4shX6S7-
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TEENAGE CANCER TRUST 2003 CONCERT PROGRAMME, COLDPLAY ERIC CLAPTON MARK KNOPFLER
(http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/NQgAAOSw4shX6S7-/s-l225.jpg)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TEENAGE-CANCER-TRUST-2003-CONCERT-PROGRAMME-COLDPLAY-ERIC-CLAPTON-MARK-KNOPFLER-/222262129446?hash=item33bfdaf326:g:NQgAAOSw4shX6S7-
I was looking forward to this concert so much, EC and MK together again! Then the sad news came around :-[
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Me too. Nigel Kennedy was the worst thing I have ever seen, including amateurs. Clapton disappointing as well, did a set of pub covers.
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Me too. Nigel Kennedy was the worst thing I have ever seen, including amateurs. Clapton disappointing as well, did a set of pub covers.
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http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/eric-clapton/2003/royal-albert-hall-london-england-53c44f7d.html
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Yeah. Great to hear Gary Brooker song Whiter Shade of Pale but you see Clapton at the RAH and his only hits are Layla and Cocaine?
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Yeah. Great to hear Gary Brooker song Whiter Shade of Pale but you see Clapton at the RAH and his only hits are Layla and Cocaine?
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Well, it was a kind of special concert, that should had been more special if it wasn't by that Ecuadorian woman...
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A very interesting bid competition in ebay this week!!
http://www.ebay.es/itm/272440326700?_trksid=p2055359.m1431.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
An two more acetates:
http://www.ebay.es/itm/232135484626?_trksid=p2055359.m1431.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.es/itm/351898679481?_trksid=p2055359.m1431.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Yes, very interesting indeed! And although I would love to have one of those, I expect them to fetch way over 300 British Pounds. What I find strange though is the fact that the buyer wouldn't mention if they contain a different version of the songs, so they might as well contain the well known versions, so actually you go for the unique medium, the artifact. If they go to someone from AMIT, I would love to know the answer to this!
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Yes, very interesting indeed! And although I would love to have one of those, I expect them to fetch way over 300 British Pounds. What I find strange though is the fact that the buyer wouldn't mention if they contain a different version of the songs, so they might as well contain the well known versions, so actually you go for the unique medium, the artifact. If they go to someone from AMIT, I would love to know the answer to this!
MFN is already at 460 GBP! Pointless really if they contain the same versions.
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Yes, I just noticed dmg! BiA was recorded in Montserrat and it was in no way a live recording. So acetates were made in London either as proofs to see if the mix and levels were good before cutting them, or as very special advanced promos for esteemed radio producers. In the first case there is a slight possibility they contain a different mix, in the second no. So far away has a regular label anyway! And MFN, as an edit, shows that they've already had an original version to cut down from. So it is all about Going home, or for the more optimistic for the extra few seconds that might be contained! :hmm
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The MFN acetate contains (if we “believe” these notes and the length of this version 4.05) a similar length of the promo single edit version (4.06) ….. Not length in So far away …and the length of going home (3:53) is similar with going home 7” version (3:57)
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Well, the acetates may contains the same versions but... just remeber that these ones has only one side recorded and different labels (except sfa) that edit and promo versions... so are rare and limited items to collect!
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Mimmo sent me this photo of the very same acetates, he has in his collection (well not the ones for sale but his own acetates). He confirms that the versions are the regular ones, so it is the artifact that is being sold. Thank you so much Mimmo!
And yes, I completely understand the feeling of owing one of a kind items, (I have a BiA one sided test pressing, among other DS TPs) despite the fact that acetates tend to crackle up, sometimes even when preserved at the best conditions, due to the very lacquer the grooves are cut on. I have several acetates (not DS unfortunately) and some of the oldest ones (some 70-80 years old) have cracked up.
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Are they actually acetates or are they vinyl test pressings?
I thought that an actual acetate (a metal disc, usually aluminium, forming the base and that base covered with a thin black lacquer, usually nitrocellulose) was most commonly either 10" in diameter (for a single) or 14" in diameter (for an LP). I'm no expert on this and there may well be exceptions, but I thought those were the common sizes. The lacquer was often so thin that the needle could wear through the grooves quite quickly, sometimes making the disc all but unplayable.
Anyone know or sure?
Also, in Dylan World, it has not been uncommon for people to "manufacture" a rare acetate, sometimes with seemingly authentic documentation or similar to back upo the claim of rarity, to fool people into buying what purports to be a genuine "rare" acetate that isn't.
I am NOT suggesting that here - not at all. Indeed, the fact that there are discs by a range of artists, some of whom would not be described as collectable, suggest otherwise.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mark-Knopfler-The-ragpickrs-Dream-guitar-tab-music-book-rock-tablature-rare/192016768301?_trksid=p2050601.c100574.m4253&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D37338%26meid%3D8880462ec28f47e2bb2762ef11e3ce59%26pid%3D100574%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D152272098108
A great and rare example of "The Ragpicker's Dream" tab book. It's a little bit too much for a tab book, otherwise I'd grab it.
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I have mixed feelings with this thread... it´s interesting because you see items that maybe you loose when searching ebay, but when you are watching an item on ebay and someone post it here, attracts more attention that it makes more difficult to bid over certain items, when you are "quietly" thinking in bid for someone that apparently nobody else, por a very few are watching, then it appears here and there are more people watching and bidding... I abandoned some bids because they went too high after someone posted them here and attracted more attention...
But when you are the one selling, that´s ok, of course.
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If anyone's interested these are what the acetate's finally sold for:
SFA: £292
GH: £375
MFN: £580
:o
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If anyone's interested these are what the acetate's finally sold for:
SFA: £292
GH: £375
MFN: £580
:o
The more I live the more I tend to realise how crazy some collectors actually are. But guitar collector is one of the worst examples of collectors.
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If anyone's interested these are what the acetate's finally sold for:
SFA: £292
GH: £375
MFN: £580
:o
The more I live the more I tend to realise how crazy some collectors actually are. But guitar collector is one of the worst examples of collectors.
I've deleted them now but if I recall there was 31 bids for at least one of them. I just hope a true fan won and not some wealthy casual collector. Or maybe even someone on here. Perhaps some AMITers were bidding against each other!
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I won the MFN one. As a collector I truly want to have one acetates like this, that is a big jewel.
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I won the MFN one. As a collector I truly want to have one acetates like this, that is a big jewel.
Well done! You'll need to let us know what it's like. :clap
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Nice early piece of memorabilia (8/11/78)
http://www.ebay.es/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-Rare-1978-Concert-Gig-POSTER-Keele-University-England-Mark-Knopfler-/162279012544?hash=item25c89538c0:g:QxEAAOSwXyVYKFBb
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Nice early piece of memorabilia (8/11/78)
http://www.ebay.es/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-Rare-1978-Concert-Gig-POSTER-Keele-University-England-Mark-Knopfler-/162279012544?hash=item25c89538c0:g:QxEAAOSwXyVYKFBb
Wanted to post it as well. Looking great! Who would have thought that just in next few years Mark will be in that millionaire's plane!
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For those missing the first DS tourbook: http://www.ebay.com/itm/182364015148?ul_noapp=true
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Again and again I'm going to lose in an auction for "The Ragpicker's Dream" LP #999:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252665180480?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l5997&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI252665180480.N34.S2.R1.TR2
I think I already lost around 10 auctions for this one. Every time it got sold for ~200€ which is insane amount of money for an LP. Sad.
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It was a very limited edition...
Same goes with All the road running and Shangrila vinyls.
That would be solved with reissues
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It was a very limited edition...
Same goes with All the road running and Shangrila vinyls.
That would be solved with reissues
Pfff, in that case wealthy people would moan that their precious X would lose its value as with rare guitars, books, etc.
I can't get why it was necessary to make it in SUCH a limited editions :'(
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I guess in 2002 not many people cared for vinyl editions. Officially.
LE
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A reissue is not the same than a limited edition.
The Les Paul reissue that MK had in the 80's doesn't worth the same that the original one (let's say "limited edition")
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It's gone. For 280 euros :o
Oh.
My.
GOD.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mark-Knopfler-Dire-Straits-Signature-Hand-carving-Stainless-Steel-Guitar-Pick-/302171933542?hash=item465ad9cb66:g:0vQAAOSwA3dYWU9g
Wow, now that's beautiful...
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Fancy owning a watch previously owned by MK?
6 watches, 2 of which were Mark's personal property are being auctioned on eBay for the Brave Hearts charity - just search Knopfler watches.
Hope these are all serious bids as it's for such a great cause which is dear to Mark's heart.
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Fancy owning a watch previously owned by MK?
6 watches, 2 of which were Mark's personal property are being auctioned on eBay for the Brave Hearts charity - just search Knopfler watches.
Hope these are all serious bids as it's for such a great cause which is dear to Mark's heart.
As the owner of a vintage watch myself I think these are all so cool. I hope an enthusiast gets one because Mark obviously has a keen interest in horology. The IWC is the one to get obviously; it must be worth tens of thousands.
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Fancy owning a watch previously owned by MK?
6 watches, 2 of which were Mark's personal property are being auctioned on eBay for the Brave Hearts charity - just search Knopfler watches.
Hope these are all serious bids as it's for such a great cause which is dear to Mark's heart.
As the owner of a vintage watch myself I think these are all so cool. I hope an enthusiast gets one because Mark obviously has a keen interest in horology. The IWC is the one to get obviously; it must be worth tens of thousands.
Tens of thousands? Really? Wow!!
Someone might get a bargain then. Sadly not me. A great looking watch, but a bit out of my price range even at 2 grand.
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Fancy owning a watch previously owned by MK?
6 watches, 2 of which were Mark's personal property are being auctioned on eBay for the Brave Hearts charity - just search Knopfler watches.
Hope these are all serious bids as it's for such a great cause which is dear to Mark's heart.
As the owner of a vintage watch myself I think these are all so cool. I hope an enthusiast gets one because Mark obviously has a keen interest in horology. The IWC is the one to get obviously; it must be worth tens of thousands.
Tens of thousands? Really? Wow!!
Someone might get a bargain then. Sadly not me. A great looking watch, but a bit out of my price range even at 2 grand.
Brand new an IWC can cost over £10k so with the history and rarity of this one it could well be a "bargain," yes.
I'd just love any of them but finances dictate!
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2006 Martin 000-40S Mark Knopfler "The Ragpicker's Dream" Signature Acoustic Guitar #23 of 155
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2006-Martin-000-40S-Mark-Knopfler-Ragpickers-Dream-Signature-Acoustic-Guitar-/272613158522?hash=item3f7902ae7a:g:N4sAAOSwDmBY3rH3
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MARK KNOPFLER DIRE STRAITS SIGNED LITHOGRAPH LIMITED AND NUMBERED EDITION 500
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARK-KNOPFLER-DIRE-STRAITS-SIGNED-LITHOGRAPH-LIMITED-AND-NUMBERED-EDITION-500-/262922307835?hash=item3d376408fb:g:EY8AAOSwsW9Y3~2x
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Something for Alan Clark to frame and hang on his wall, although I think it is a little overpriced:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dire-straits-Alan-Clarke-1984-magazine-advert-/110638997050?hash=item19c2991e3a:m:mP7PRlHGsybZX6rCfmuasmg
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:lol
LE
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-Gibson-Mark-Knopfler-VOS-Les-Paul-Custom-Shop-Historic-58-R8-Lightweight-/192185410161
I believe that I'll can afford this instrument in the next 30 years or something only, but I can't stop drooling over it! ;D
As they said it in the Guitarist magazine, a perfect Les Paul. Mark nailed it again.
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Seems like Mark's famous "Germany tours" are so huge even merchandise exists for it, it's kinda funny:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARK-KNOPFLER-GERMANY-2010-TOUR-ORIGINAL-ADIDAS-TRACKSUIT-BOTTOMS-/272740039511?hash=item3f8092bb57:g:o4cAAOSwMvtZR-uM
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/wycAAOSwTf9ZR-uU/s-l800.jpg)
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Made in China! :lol
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What's up with this price?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MARK-KNOPFLER-GOLDEN-HEART-BRAND-NEW/182962918035?epid=47026104&hash=item2a99709293:g:Yz0AAOSwZW5aMkgi
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Wow... Pensa 3/30: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mark-Knopfler-Pensa-Mk90-limited-edition-3-30/263402475512?hash=item3d5402cff8:g:61IAAOSwDkVaNt18
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A number of silver pressed bootlegs have appeared on ebay. Just search "Dire Straits bootlegs." Also Mark Knopfler bootlegs. A few very rare ones if collecting these is your thing. Some far out prices; might sell some of mine if they fetch that sort of dosh.
One I noticed is from Milan 1992 (seller has 1982). I wonder if it's the same recording already circulated as I haven't seen a pressed bootleg of this show before... :think
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dire-Straits-Live-Milano-1982-2cd-Live-Bootlegs-Rare-Collector/323032333132?hash=item4b363a3b4c:g:U~sAAOSwI~taa7Rc
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How do you know they are silver? There are many CDR that can be printed in colour by one side... We don't see here the silver surface.
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A number of silver pressed bootlegs have appeared on ebay. Just search "Dire Straits bootlegs." Also Mark Knopfler bootlegs. A few very rare ones if collecting these is your thing. Some far out prices; might sell some of mine if they fetch that sort of dosh.
One I noticed is from Milan 1992 (seller has 1982). I wonder if it's the same recording already circulated as I haven't seen a pressed bootleg of this show before... :think
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dire-Straits-Live-Milano-1982-2cd-Live-Bootlegs-Rare-Collector/323032333132?hash=item4b363a3b4c:g:U~sAAOSwI~taa7Rc
it seems a clear CDR to me
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I also think it is cdr.
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I'm sure it's CDR.
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Someone in Italy is trying to sell at 30K euros :o an R custom made by Suhr in 1985
(https://img.mercatinomusicale.com/p_z/96/11/5561196_1518359692.jpg)
(https://img.mercatinomusicale.com/p_z/96/11/5561196_1518359690.jpg)
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Oh dear. Suhrly not! ;D
It is probably one of the first guitars he made but it's neither pretty nor necessarily that good. Just maybe collectable but don't know why it would be worth that much. It was all a bit hit or miss at that time he says. Some came out very good and others not so much. He didnt know why at the time but he knows now.
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:o :o Dire Straits-NEWS 10" 45 Acetate of Warner Bros WBS-49082 9/4/79 with three seconds less than on the official disk
Wonderful item! what will be the final offer?
https://www.ebay.es/itm/222973523427?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true
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Someone in Italy is trying to sell at 30K euros :o an R custom made by Suhr in 1985
(https://img.mercatinomusicale.com/p_z/96/11/5561196_1518359692.jpg)
(https://img.mercatinomusicale.com/p_z/96/11/5561196_1518359690.jpg)
now it's 'only' 3K, it lost a zero, seller must be a strange guy :lol
According to the seller it was played by James Ralston in Tina Turner's 1988 world tour.
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:o :o Dire Straits-NEWS 10" 45 Acetate of Warner Bros WBS-49082 9/4/79 with three seconds less than on the official disk
Wonderful item! what will be the final offer?
https://www.ebay.es/itm/222973523427?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true
Final bid: 623,59 € . :o :o
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It's an acetate from 1979... Very rare, I was expecting a high price, maybe not that high, but...
These acetates are a beautiful item to collect.
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It's an acetate from 1979... Very rare, I was expecting a high price, maybe not that high, but...
These acetates are a beautiful item to collect.
Does they sound any different from the studio recording though?
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It's an acetate from 1979... Very rare, I was expecting a high price, maybe not that high, but...
These acetates are a beautiful item to collect.
Does they sound any different from the studio recording though?
Most of them are the same version, used to check levels of sound before release it or as radio previews. Some of them are really rare as include early versions pressed to listen to them at home or the hotel during recording process. Sometimes they even are unreleased songs. Obviously these last are VERY expensive and rare.
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Amy Bulloch is a young teenager who comes from the north-east of England. Not long ago she was diagnosed with a rare form of bone cancer resulting in her undergoing specialist treatment in the USA followed by weeks of chemo therapy. Amy comes from an ordinary family and is receiving super support from them and others. As part of on-going fund-raising efforts a number of MK items are being offered on Ebay. So take a look and you just might see a cool Xmas pressie for you or someone you love.
Take a look at the items: https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/bsneez/m.html?item=173640762309&ul_noapp=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
Amy’s crowd funding site: https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rob-barthram
Source: MKNews
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Just decided to search Knopfler on eBay and laughed so hard at these, the results of people shouting "MAK" before every performance is here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-MARK-KNOPFLER-Down-The-Road-Wherever-CD-Dire-Straits-NICE/273589488448?hash=item3fb3344b40:g:YKEAAOSw0rdcAvXs
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mark-Knopfler-Signed-Down-The-Road-Wherever-CD/323579981229?hash=item4b56deadad:g:hQ4AAOSwEVlcBIJH
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mark-Knopfler-Down-The-Road-Wherever-Autographed-CD-w-COA-2018-Dire-Straits/153287199483?hash=item23b0a10afb:g:TSoAAOSwOIlcBBc5
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mark-Knopfler-Autographed-Down-The-Road-Wherever-Deluxe-Edition-CD/192745276726?hash=item2ce0838536:g:KTQAAOSw~VBcBDnG
Teach me your ways!
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Just decided to search Knopfler on eBay and laughed so hard at these, the results of people shouting "MAK" before every performance is here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-MARK-KNOPFLER-Down-The-Road-Wherever-CD-Dire-Straits-NICE/273589488448?hash=item3fb3344b40:g:YKEAAOSw0rdcAvXs
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mark-Knopfler-Signed-Down-The-Road-Wherever-CD/323579981229?hash=item4b56deadad:g:hQ4AAOSwEVlcBIJH
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mark-Knopfler-Down-The-Road-Wherever-Autographed-CD-w-COA-2018-Dire-Straits/153287199483?hash=item23b0a10afb:g:TSoAAOSwOIlcBBc5
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mark-Knopfler-Autographed-Down-The-Road-Wherever-Deluxe-Edition-CD/192745276726?hash=item2ce0838536:g:KTQAAOSw~VBcBDnG
Teach me your ways!
This stuff makes me so angry. Some people like that even post YouTube clips to verify the autograph. I've seen some videos where they bring a stack of CDs or LPs for the artist to sign. Like no shame at all. In that video with Mark, you could just see that a lot of them were not real fans. Ugh.
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Weird that they are in America? Maybe fake? SIG looks real but easily fakes I guess.
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Weird that they are in America? Maybe fake? SIG looks real but easily fakes I guess.
Yes, quite weird...
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Amy Bulloch is a young teenager who comes from the north-east of England. Not long ago she was diagnosed with a rare form of bone cancer resulting in her undergoing specialist treatment in the USA followed by weeks of chemo therapy. Amy comes from an ordinary family and is receiving super support from them and others. As part of on-going fund-raising efforts a number of MK items are being offered on Ebay. So take a look and you just might see a cool Xmas pressie for you or someone you love.
Take a look at the items: https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/bsneez/m.html?item=173640762309&ul_noapp=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
Amy’s crowd funding site: https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rob-barthram
Source: MKNews
Thanks Allen, I managed to bag myself the 'Remembrance Day' promo cd so I'm a happy bunny!!!
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Thought this sealed 2-LP copy of Get Lucky (2009) might be of interest to some members. Thanks.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/124521933234 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/124521933234)
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Thought this sealed 2-LP copy of Get Lucky (2009) might be of interest to some members. Thanks.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/124521933234 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/124521933234)
Very nice but too rich for my blood!
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https://www.shpock.com/en-gb/i/X8UHiol8SF0pSeiq/mark-knopfler-souvenir
No affiliation to the seller but I saw this for sale.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mark-Knopfler-signed-poster-2001-rare-Dire-Straits/274707751485?hash=item3ff5dba23d:g:07sAAOSwJBBgQbhQ
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
With all seriousness, 2K dollars for a sheet of paper with a signature is a bit over the top...
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I have always been struck by the fascination of many fans for vinyl concerts, their limited editions, the fact that they have unofficial material in their collections (regardless of their quality) and their high prices. I am one of them, with my limitations, but I am.
In this case for the DS concert at wembley in 1991. It's the first time I have seen it at auction since I was able to get my "freshly-baked copy" at a record fair in October 1991 in Barcelona. 5 days to close the auction and the price already seems amazing to me. Out of curiosity, how many people at AMIT have a copy of this bootleg?
https://www.ebay.es/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-LP-WEMBLEY-ARENA-16-9-91-very-rare-album-100-copies-only/402756540967?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
The best website on the internet about DS bootlegs on vinyl. I think they are all ...
http://www.dsboots.com/
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I have always been struck by the fascination of many fans for vinyl concerts, their limited editions, the fact that they have unofficial material in their collections (regardless of their quality) and their high prices. I am one of them, with my limitations, but I am.
In this case for the DS concert at wembley in 1991. It's the first time I have seen it at auction since I was able to get my "freshly-baked copy" at a record fair in October 1991 in Barcelona. 5 days to close the auction and the price already seems amazing to me. Out of curiosity, how many people at AMIT have a copy?
https://www.ebay.es/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-LP-WEMBLEY-ARENA-16-9-91-very-rare-album-100-copies-only/402756540967?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
The best website on the internet about DS bootlegs on vinyl. I think they are all ...
http://www.dsboots.com/
Wow, incredible! I have the Calling Wembley bootleg which is the same one with a different cover. I've actually a number of vinyl bootlegs from the old record fayre days doing nothing. If I knew I'd get that for them they'd be on eBay!
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I have always been struck by the fascination of many fans for vinyl concerts, their limited editions, the fact that they have unofficial material in their collections (regardless of their quality) and their high prices. I am one of them, with my limitations, but I am.
In this case for the DS concert at wembley in 1991. It's the first time I have seen it at auction since I was able to get my "freshly-baked copy" at a record fair in October 1991 in Barcelona. 5 days to close the auction and the price already seems amazing to me. Out of curiosity, how many people at AMIT have a copy?
https://www.ebay.es/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-LP-WEMBLEY-ARENA-16-9-91-very-rare-album-100-copies-only/402756540967?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
The best website on the internet about DS bootlegs on vinyl. I think they are all ...
http://www.dsboots.com/
Wow, incredible! I have the Calling Wembley bootleg which is the same one with a different cover. I've actually a number of vinyl bootlegs from the old record fayre days doing nothing. If I knew I'd get that for them they'd be on eBay!
The same happens to me. Maybe I'll put up for sale some of the more limited ones I have ...
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I have always been struck by the fascination of many fans for vinyl concerts, their limited editions, the fact that they have unofficial material in their collections (regardless of their quality) and their high prices. I am one of them, with my limitations, but I am.
In this case for the DS concert at wembley in 1991. It's the first time I have seen it at auction since I was able to get my "freshly-baked copy" at a record fair in October 1991 in Barcelona. 5 days to close the auction and the price already seems amazing to me. Out of curiosity, how many people at AMIT have a copy?
https://www.ebay.es/itm/DIRE-STRAITS-LP-WEMBLEY-ARENA-16-9-91-very-rare-album-100-copies-only/402756540967?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
The best website on the internet about DS bootlegs on vinyl. I think they are all ...
http://www.dsboots.com/
Wow, incredible! I have the Calling Wembley bootleg which is the same one with a different cover. I've actually a number of vinyl bootlegs from the old record fayre days doing nothing. If I knew I'd get that for them they'd be on eBay!
The same happens to me. Maybe I'll put up for sale some of the more limited ones I have ...
Really? 515,00 EUR?
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It's very rare. Never seen a copy on sale of that one never.
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It's very rare. Never seen a copy on sale of that one never.
Neither do I, Julio. But I have seen cheaper copies of "irish reagge botleeg" (350-500 eur) and it is more limited in copies than this one (20 copies). Amazing. Just curious and I will ask again: has any amiter a copy of this bootleg?
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https://www.ebay.es/itm/284492462554?hash=item423d1279da:g:tkIAAOSwQhRhbEkP
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Now that's actually rather good!!!
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The price as well! IMO
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Yes, indeed. On ebay you can always find some really interesting DS and MK-items, but according to my experiences in the last month, most of the regular DS and MK stuff, escpecially some vinyl-albums by an UK-trader are totally overpriced. BIA or OES on regular vinyls for more than 50 Euro. Ridiculous. Unserious. Nothing special. I cann accept such price-suggestions if the vinyls are really rare, exotic, limited, special-pressings, testpressings, or scarce promo-copies. Than i can agree with some higher price-suggestions, but for the regular mass-produced stuff, it makes no sense, and nobody with knowledge will buy it.
Yes, another big topic with those autograph-grabbers. It is really insane, with that behavior in relation with the artist. But to me it is clear, that are paid grabbers from the big autograph-traders, except the real and loyal DS and MK-Fans. That is the autograph-mafia in my mind. In Germany there is also a big autograph trader, i think from Berlin or so with crazy prices and the stars are still alive.
The COAs are not worth the paper, wich are very common used by those US-autograph-traders. :think
The little plastic-Mark bobble-head is funny to see, but it is not really important for my collection. 8)
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Yes, indeed. On ebay you can always find some really interesting DS and MK-items, but according to my experiences in the last month, most of the regular DS and MK stuff, escpecially some vinyl-albums by an UK-trader are totally overpriced. BIA or OES on regular vinyls for more than 50 Euro. Ridiculous. Unserious. Nothing special. I cann accept such price-suggestions if the vinyls are really rare, exotic, limited, special-pressings, testpressings, or scarce promo-copies. Than i can agree with some higher price-suggestions, but for the regular mass-produced stuff, it makes no sense, and nobody with knowledge will buy it.
Yes, another big topic with those autograph-grabbers. It is really insane, with that behavior in relation with the artist. But to me it is clear, that are paid grabbers from the big autograph-traders, except the real and loyal DS and MK-Fans. That is the autograph-mafia in my mind. In Germany there is also a big autograph trader, i think from Berlin or so with crazy prices and the stars are still alive.
The COAs are not worth the paper, wich are very common used by those US-autograph-traders. :think
The little plastic-Mark bobble-head is funny to see, but it is not really important for my collection. 8)
Is this asking price or selling price?
I can't see anyone paying 50 euros for an original BiA. Here in the UK you can regularly buy it for £1 in a charity shop, they literally made millions of them.
OES is more rare as most were buying CDs by 1991.
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Dear dustyvalentino.
Just look at this picture with an current ebay-offer of the BIA-LP-Album from UK. Can you explain that "funny" price-offer to me ??? On the other hand i´getting blind, or i have overlooked something. That is a regular UK-issue, nothing special.
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Here are two other "remarkable" examples for price-madness. So, what is the reason to value those regular records with that price-levels. ???? Can anybody explain it.?? So, i know it sounds very unbelievable, but it is the truth. On the other hand i can try to sell my old Citroen Xsara for 100.000 Dollars. ;D ;D ;D
To be honest, what do you think about ?? This question is specially for all DS and MK record-collectionists.
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People can ask a crazy price and they might find a sucker to buy, but I don’t think these would be the usual selling price.
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My newest example for ebay price-madness.
Just look at that offer. A cassette-tape of Dire Straits for an insane price.
So, what´s that about ? To me personally that does not make a sense, because no one will buy that, at least no one with collecting skills.
What advantage does the seller have at such prices ?? I don´t know. ??? ??? ??? ???
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My newest example for ebay price-madness.
Just look at that offer. A cassette-tape of Dire Straits for an insane price.
So, what´s that about ? To me personally that does not make a sense, because no one will buy that, at least no one with collecting skills.
What advantage does the seller have at such prices ?? I don´t know. ??? ??? ??? ???
It's a Mark Knopfler Signature cassette :lol
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Only need one sucker to buy…
Apparently cassettes go for good money these days, shame I binned mine.
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No one will buy that. You see some far out prices for all things on eBay these days for some reason. Perhaps the seller isn't really too bothered about selling but doesn't use the item and just waits for that one "sucker", as Dusty says.
If it does sell for that price my BIA cassette is right on eBay!
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Ha Ha Ha. Yes we also could be Tape-billionaires. ;D ;D
By the way, i also own my old mixtapes on the legendary MAXELL XL-II tapes for a lot of parties in my youth. And i also have my first car-stereo-system, a now vintage ALPINE Car-stereo-system from 1993. 8)
To Pavel: No there is no Mark signature on that crazy tape. :'(
To dusty: Yes you are right. Some vintage tapedecks have a renaissance today to some vintage hi-fi-collectionists. Brands like: Nakamichi, AKAI, Piioneer, Studer-Revox and so on are interesting in our days. 8)
But back to Tape-topic: Nobody will buy that. Never ever, and not in 100 years. And what about the sound-quality by those near 40 years old tapes ?? :think
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Martin 000-40s Mark Knopfler signature for sale: https://reverb.com/item/53445754-martin-000-40s-mark-knopfler-signature
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/155012296693?hash=item241773eff5:g:6WYAAOSwE1JikMaX
Gibson Custom Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul VOS for GBP 12,000.00 + best offer
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Beaten-up MK Strat also known as "collector's item" serial number SE00711 for sale in Japan for $3K:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275348744588?hash=item401c10698c:g:LAcAAOSwP0pip~oL
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Beaten-up MK Strat also known as "collector's item" serial number SE00711 for sale in Japan for $3K:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275348744588?hash=item401c10698c:g:LAcAAOSwP0pip~oL
be careful, the seller has terrible feedback
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Beaten-up MK Strat also known as "collector's item" serial number SE00711 for sale in Japan for $3K:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275348744588?hash=item401c10698c:g:LAcAAOSwP0pip~oL
be careful, the seller has terrible feedback
Oh, you're right, I never noticed that. The seller has a peculiar history of both positive, and negative interaction, that's strange. Probably because he's from Japan? Who in his right mind will buy a guitar in this bad shape for this amount of money anyway... If he's willing to do that, he will surely handle any situation you can encounter in this world with dignity, including a little scam.
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Main complaint seems to be that he doesn't actually own the guitars then cancels the order, odd.
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Main complaint seems to be that he doesn't actually own the guitars then cancels the order, odd.
Not that odd. Sometimes sellers have items on different sites and sell them through one of them and forget (or neglect) to delete the item. It happened to me with records that were being sold at ebay and discogs at the same time quite often.
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All The Roadrunning LP for $599: https://www.ebay.com/itm/125449611465?hash=item1d356128c9:g:DvIAAOSwML9i7Sdc (https://www.ebay.com/itm/125449611465?hash=item1d356128c9:g:DvIAAOSwML9i7Sdc)
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Average sold price of £290 on Discogs.
https://www.discogs.com/release/2798397-Mark-Knopfler-And-Emmylou-Harris-All-The-Roadrunning
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Average sold price of £290 on Discogs.
https://www.discogs.com/release/2798397-Mark-Knopfler-And-Emmylou-Harris-All-The-Roadrunning
Didn't noticed it was half speed!
Mine cost me around 150 euros if I'm right. A beautiful record to have!
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David Knopfler's Ovation for sale: https://www.ebay.com/itm/295189649361?hash=item44baac97d1:g:qjYAAOSwIyRjDQxu&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoF%2F7yq2mA5KfBXN62KvrZ5h5OUWULMoFUd9BD%2BAVyltma5mbxjICmcu0swLABVj10oastowP9CUcazKM5ApOa7x3Tmv3OinUsI9SSrLhkDYDb%2FAxYzrdCIOMtlj%2Bg2xD6F1fTbzWkD8rX3GdsrFl%2FoijRx3cC%2BmPsuTC9L%2Ffw797PtGGRiISV7YpOaZXavJe3nF%2BQ8b0dsoZU1CFQLDLo9w%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9Ct9PzhYA
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Now that's a beautiful guitar: https://www.ebay.com/itm/266183996105?hash=item3df9cd72c9:g:UC4AAOSwtQFkGwEG&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwPBQUhk1DxHeyPTH6fB6PBRYUzGXmSVnRejoE%2B%2Fe%2FmMGs3cM4bBgnB8evHuJp0uFtI21sXjzevAWayXBcldE8ql02%2BfqnFtR28oKS3qPC49lVESYHH7z8ClQuNt1%2Bg6vJ6KqvtQ0UmdVqVEVxojbfMQYBnfTyPgmlI1nH9gcVEGUL8IwIuFgyW8Qayzjc%2Bnv66uhiLj17bRNhzcscl5uocu5rVT3crhKnDs6M2JO3ksOE9WYUteO8r4uCXOv4YrSFA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_LciIjiYQ (https://www.ebay.com/itm/266183996105?hash=item3df9cd72c9:g:UC4AAOSwtQFkGwEG&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwPBQUhk1DxHeyPTH6fB6PBRYUzGXmSVnRejoE%2B%2Fe%2FmMGs3cM4bBgnB8evHuJp0uFtI21sXjzevAWayXBcldE8ql02%2BfqnFtR28oKS3qPC49lVESYHH7z8ClQuNt1%2Bg6vJ6KqvtQ0UmdVqVEVxojbfMQYBnfTyPgmlI1nH9gcVEGUL8IwIuFgyW8Qayzjc%2Bnv66uhiLj17bRNhzcscl5uocu5rVT3crhKnDs6M2JO3ksOE9WYUteO8r4uCXOv4YrSFA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_LciIjiYQ)
Martin HD 40 Mark Knopfler Signature for "just" $7,000. Now the guitar that's REALLY rare and it's only a bit more expensive than the MK Strat. Go figure...
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Now that's a beautiful guitar: https://www.ebay.com/itm/266183996105?hash=item3df9cd72c9:g:UC4AAOSwtQFkGwEG&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwPBQUhk1DxHeyPTH6fB6PBRYUzGXmSVnRejoE%2B%2Fe%2FmMGs3cM4bBgnB8evHuJp0uFtI21sXjzevAWayXBcldE8ql02%2BfqnFtR28oKS3qPC49lVESYHH7z8ClQuNt1%2Bg6vJ6KqvtQ0UmdVqVEVxojbfMQYBnfTyPgmlI1nH9gcVEGUL8IwIuFgyW8Qayzjc%2Bnv66uhiLj17bRNhzcscl5uocu5rVT3crhKnDs6M2JO3ksOE9WYUteO8r4uCXOv4YrSFA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_LciIjiYQ (https://www.ebay.com/itm/266183996105?hash=item3df9cd72c9:g:UC4AAOSwtQFkGwEG&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwPBQUhk1DxHeyPTH6fB6PBRYUzGXmSVnRejoE%2B%2Fe%2FmMGs3cM4bBgnB8evHuJp0uFtI21sXjzevAWayXBcldE8ql02%2BfqnFtR28oKS3qPC49lVESYHH7z8ClQuNt1%2Bg6vJ6KqvtQ0UmdVqVEVxojbfMQYBnfTyPgmlI1nH9gcVEGUL8IwIuFgyW8Qayzjc%2Bnv66uhiLj17bRNhzcscl5uocu5rVT3crhKnDs6M2JO3ksOE9WYUteO8r4uCXOv4YrSFA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_LciIjiYQ)
Martin HD 40 Mark Knopfler Signature for "just" $7,000. Now the guitar that's REALLY rare and it's only a bit more expensive than the MK Strat. Go figure...
The price has dropped to $6,000.
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Remember that most asked prices are not the actuel sold price.
And some vendors asking for stratospherical price are not in need to sell it fast but are just gamgling.
An experienced guitar owner pointed out that the guitar market was saturated by offers.
Choice is everywhere and at all prices.
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https://www.vintageandrare.com/product/Gibson-Custom-Shop-Mark-Knopfler-58-Les-Paul-Standard-2016-Sunburst-100225
And yet another MK Les Paul for sale... Are they that rare, after all? Almost always you have one or two for sale.
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Here’s an interesting thing. If it could be proved it would be cool thing to have.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115766702379?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=-ERqBGS8T66&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=t9YYdT2PT06&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
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Here’s an interesting thing. If it could be proved it would be cool thing to have.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115766702379?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=-ERqBGS8T66&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=t9YYdT2PT06&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Interesting indeed. I'd say you can't make something like this up, it has to be true.