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Title: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: holaknopfler on February 21, 2015, 01:51:11 PM
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Wherever I Go (Mark Knopfler)


LYRICS

Maybe I’m bound to wander
From one place to the next
Heaven knows why
But in the wild blue yonder
Your star is fixed in my sky

Just another bar at a crossroads
So far from home
But that’s alright
Whenever I’m going down a dark road
I don’t feel alone in the night

There’s a place in my heart
Though we’re far apart
May you always know
No matter how long since I saw you
I’ll keep a flame there for you
Wherever I go

They’re looking to close up in here
They’re pulling down the blinds
But they’ll let you stay awhile
They’re not going to mind

Now I’ve got to leave you, brother
So this round’s mine
Here’s looking at you, anyhow
You can go on and have another
They won’t call time
I’m going to say my goodbyes now

There’s a place in my heart
Though we’re far apart
May you always know
No matter how long since I saw you
I’ll keep a flame there for you
Wherever I go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8krQD7C1OM

Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: foma on February 21, 2015, 02:07:28 PM
To be on Marks' VEVO channel? Four grands prise? Selected by Mark? This is truly breaking! Oh, there is a song by the way!

 :o :o :o
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Post by: Vesper on February 21, 2015, 02:43:32 PM
Wow!
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Post by: foma on February 21, 2015, 03:06:31 PM
I posted the song on my VK fans community (it's in Russian, don't panic), you can listen the stream right there: vk.com/wall-1623526_11292 (http://vk.com/wall-1623526_11292)
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Post by: yontwocrows on February 21, 2015, 03:10:25 PM
WoW
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Post by: straitsway75 on February 21, 2015, 03:32:17 PM
 :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on February 21, 2015, 03:37:24 PM
Just another In The Sky/Are We In Trouble Now/If This Is Goodbye.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: holaknopfler on February 21, 2015, 03:39:19 PM
Oh there we go again..
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Post by: naif on February 21, 2015, 03:45:17 PM
Like the idea a lot, but unfortunately not the song.
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Post by: superval99 on February 21, 2015, 03:48:51 PM
I think I need to listen a few more times, but it doesn't jump out at me immediately as a great song - it's a bit too slow and disjointed, but these sort of songs are often the ones that have a longer life!    :think
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Post by: foma on February 21, 2015, 03:55:15 PM
Sadly I do not want so much to listen this song again, but maybe with video it would be another experience. Ending solos is great though, but overall...
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Post by: superval99 on February 21, 2015, 04:01:01 PM
..... however, having listened to it three times, I am definitely warming to it - it's a grower, which is good news, for me!   ;)   It's a beautiful melody and I love the solos!   :)
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Post by: foma on February 21, 2015, 04:05:26 PM
..... however, having listened to it three times, I am definitely warming to it - it's a grower, which is good news, for me!   ;)   

Yes indeed, I know somebody will write soon 'I will listen it on my turntable when album will out and in that way it will sound gorgeous' :)

It's of course genuine and great song, but let's take it honestly, when you listened 'In The Sky' for the last time? I did it around year ago.

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Post by: superval99 on February 21, 2015, 04:12:29 PM
..... however, having listened to it three times, I am definitely warming to it - it's a grower, which is good news, for me!   ;)   

Yes indeed, I know somebody will write soon 'I will listen it on my turntable when album will out and in that way it will sound gorgeous' :)

It's of course genuine and great song, but let's take it honestly, when you listened 'In The Sky' for the last time? I did it around year ago.

Well, actually, I have an extremely long playlist of all my favourite songs from MK, or which are MK connected and "In The Sky" comes round on a regular basis and I love it, especially the "La, la , la , la" bit!   ;D
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Post by: LoveExpresso on February 21, 2015, 04:13:14 PM
Never liked Ruth Moody and her voice sorry to say. Plus Sax I don't like either, it's so 80's. His singing is as "energetic" as on What A Wonderful World. The rest is just another In The Sky indeed.
So no I don't like it at all. But no problem, there is always one track or the other on every album that's not my cup of tea. Really nothing new here. Guitar vs. Sax same as on In The Sky..

I only wonder what that Review meant by calling this duet Celtic or what was he saying..

LE
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Post by: border_reiver on February 21, 2015, 04:13:59 PM
Good song if you wanna fall asleep :)

(http://www.djworx.com/skratchworx/images/Denon/dns1200/dns1200_next.jpg)
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Post by: naif on February 21, 2015, 04:14:38 PM
In The Sky one of my favorite songs in his solo career but don't like Wherever I Go. Good lyrics but musically, it can be much better!
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Post by: foma on February 21, 2015, 04:16:44 PM
Good song if you wanna fall asleep :)

Yes, I would call it 'moody'. This song is cool when you are only in a certain mood. So is this was a connection why it's a duet with Ruth Moody?
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Post by: LoveExpresso on February 21, 2015, 04:19:40 PM
Very good reMARK.
 ;D

LE
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Post by: Dutchessy on February 21, 2015, 04:22:02 PM
I like the song! I think it's quite amazing and i'm happy with it. I like the melody, the singing of both + the sax / Gibson duet.

Beautiful album outro for the normal edition.
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Post by: holaknopfler on February 21, 2015, 04:24:44 PM
I like the song! I think it's quite amazing and i'm happy with it. I like the melody, the singing of both + the sax / Gibson duet.

Beautiful album outro for the normal edition.

 :thumbsup
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Post by: Romanbern on February 21, 2015, 04:26:20 PM
great song, like it.
only the usual licks are boring - I think the song would be even better with only acoustic guitars in it
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Post by: LoveExpresso on February 21, 2015, 04:28:55 PM
I don't want to spoil it for anybody by saying what I think of it. I like it when you like it! :D
But compared to the excitement I felt with Beryl and the Taormina and Basil snippets, this is just.. yawn..
Good thing I don't have to like it because I feel for sure there will be plenty of new stuff I will like for sure.
Just realizing that  I am not even interested in the lyrics as I can't stand her voice so I guess this could be a skipper...

LE
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Post by: foma on February 21, 2015, 04:38:20 PM
I don't want to spoil it for anybody by saying what I think of it. I like it when you like it! :D
But compared to the excitement I felt with Beryl and the Taormina and Basil snippets, this is just.. yawn..
Good thing I don't have to like it because I feel for sure there will be plenty of new stuff I will like for sure.
Just realizing that  I am not even interested in the lyrics as I can't stand her voice so I guess this could be a skipper...

LE

You managed to read my mind or something like that. Yawn is right and I'm actually feel pleased for what I listened it now rather than throw it in snobby fashion away from listening it for the abstract 'good times'.
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Post by: rudiger on February 21, 2015, 04:42:15 PM
I love the melody, I love Mark's voice, I love Ruth's voice, I love the sax, I love the outro. Did I say that I love this song?  :lol :clap
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Post by: foma on February 21, 2015, 04:44:46 PM
I love the melody, I love Mark's voice, I love Ruth's voice, I love the sax, I love the outro. Did I say that I love this song?  :lol :clap

Okay, I love it, too. What about listen-for-100-times factor? Seem like next time I'll listen it when album will come out. Or, and for chords of course ;D
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Post by: Ar (aka Enlight) on February 21, 2015, 04:45:19 PM
Ok we all have the new track now , but are we, as the biggest MK fan community, going to make a video for Mark's new song???
We not really helping him discussing if the song is good or not (again) , i am sure he don't care a bit.
Maybe we can put all the reply's under the audiotrack and send it in?  :think ;D
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Post by: jerrymb on February 21, 2015, 04:53:35 PM
Guest vocalists always means a weak song that needed a gimmick to make it sound halfway decent. A strong solid song never needs any other vocalist other than the songwriter himself!
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Post by: Dutchessy on February 21, 2015, 05:01:44 PM
Guest vocalists always means a weak song that needed a gimmick to make it sound halfway decent. A strong solid song never needs any other vocalist other than the songwriter himself!

Thats rubbish... silvertown blues, sailing to philadelphia.. weak songs? No way!
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Post by: jerrymb on February 21, 2015, 05:07:17 PM
In the case of Wherever I Go yes. Beryl is very generic sounding and Wherever I Go is almost painful to listen to without falling asleep.I hope the other tracks are classic MK because these two tracks are as medicore as you can get.
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Post by: holaknopfler on February 21, 2015, 05:24:46 PM
In the case of Wherever I Go yes. Beryl is very generic sounding and Wherever I Go is almost painful to listen to without falling asleep.I hope the other tracks are classic MK because these two tracks are as medicore as you can get.

And if it isn't, then wat? I'm getting utterly fed up with people constantly bashing everything the man makes. Sometimes it seems everything is called boring,and  painful here. And what is "classic MK"? It makes no sense at all. He makes a lot of different music, so the closest you get to whatever I think is his classic sound is the song we've heard already. Beryl. You don't have to like everything put can people please consider he is 65 years old and he doesn't have to do it at all? Be happy. I'm away now, can't stand the negativism anymore, I'm very sorry.
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Post by: Jarle on February 21, 2015, 05:25:15 PM
Guest vocalists always means a weak song that needed a gimmick to make it sound halfway decent. A strong solid song never needs any other vocalist other than the songwriter himself!

I think Ruth is on "Wherever I Go" because of her wonderful voice, and because of the fact that this song works great as a duett. I really liked it from first listen. Wonderful melodi and lyrics. The lyrics seems more "generic" than many of Mark's songs, not based on a spesific story, but I think it is great with just a universal love song from Mark. A great album closer, way above the closer on "Privateering". Not to mention the great guitar lines. I am happy :)
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Post by: D44mu on February 21, 2015, 05:33:27 PM
In the case of Wherever I Go yes. Beryl is very generic sounding and Wherever I Go is almost painful to listen to without falling asleep.I hope the other tracks are classic MK because these two tracks are as medicore as you can get.
This is your opinion. But you wrote it as it were the only possible explantion after hearing these songs. And please explain what "classic MK" mean?
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Post by: superval99 on February 21, 2015, 05:39:27 PM
Guest vocalists always means a weak song that needed a gimmick to make it sound halfway decent. A strong solid song never needs any other vocalist other than the songwriter himself!

From 18 of your posts, 16 are negative ones - are you sure you're an MK fan?    I see that you didn't like Privateering either!   :think
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Post by: border_reiver on February 21, 2015, 05:42:44 PM
And still, everytime there is blues involved the "softy slow tune-KTGC loving-people" automatically has the right to say "oh yuck, another blues track" and shall never ever be questioned about their opinion  :)

Get over it, some people like this and others like that.

Once the career and touring is over, people would die to hear any kind of song again.
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Post by: LoveExpresso on February 21, 2015, 06:09:57 PM
I always see this as a big room full of people (like on a party) or a house with several rooms.. everyone shows up here and there occasionally, says something or not. I spend a lot of time of the day in this house and when there is something to say, I don't mind saying what I think - but that is not done with the idea of trying to convince or persuade the other people but just to .. utter an opinion.  ;D (Maybe on a Monday I've got something to say, and certainly when we got a complete new MK song so surprisingly.

I know the feeling when I love something and there are others not having the same feeling - sometimes it makes me automatically go into self defence or I start to defend the matter or the thing.. but today, I am SO pleased with everything I heard so far about Tracker, that it is just one song that fails to give me something. There is a new complete Knopfler song in the house and I don't care about it - in fact, I listened to it 5 or 6 times now, trying to find something beautiful in it, but there isn't. I stare at the timescale and think, wow, that have only been 3 minutes, and another 3 to go, feels waaaaay tooo long this song... that's the way it goes..
It shows how different we all are. For me, this song is just not original the slightest, it is exactly the kind of thing that he uses to give away when he contributes to other people's albums - the usual trademarks are there, but we know he can do better and probably will do so on his next own album.
Well, this time, FOR ME, this hope was not approved.
14 other great songs to look forward to! At least!

 :)

LE
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Post by: superval99 on February 21, 2015, 06:16:13 PM
I always see this as a big room full of people (like on a party) or a house with several rooms.. everyone shows up here and there occasionally, says something or not. I spend a lot of time of the day in this house and when there is something to say, I don't mind saying what I think - but that is not done with the idea of trying to convince or persuade the other people but just to .. utter an opinion.  ;D (Maybe on a Monday I've got something to say, and certainly when we got a complete new MK song so surprisingly.

I know the feeling when I love something and there are others not having the same feeling - sometimes it makes me automatically go into self defence or I start to defend the matter or the thing.. but today, I am SO pleased with everything I heard so far about Tracker, that it is just one song that fails to give me something. There is a new complete Knopfler song in the house and I don't care about it - in fact, I listened to it 5 or 6 times now, trying to find something beautiful in it, but there isn't. I stare at the timescale and think, wow, that have only been 3 minutes, and another 3 to go, feels waaaaay tooo long this song... that's the way it goes..
It shows how different we all are. For me, this song is just not original the slightest, it is exactly the kind of thing that he uses to give away when he contributes to other people's albums - the usual trademarks are there, but we know he can do better and probably will do so on his next own album.
Well, this time, FOR ME, this hope was not approved.
14 other great songs to look forward to! At least!

 :)

LE

Yes, I hear what you are saying, LE, but for some people on this forum, their cup is ALWAYS half-empty!    ::)
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Post by: LoveExpresso on February 21, 2015, 06:29:36 PM
It's easier to see it the other way around, makes life more comfortable. But these people have my sympathy, and I don't judge them, each to his own.
It is not the end of the world when a MK song is bad, as I said earlier, I could name at least two songs on every solo album that I could easily live without.
Or maybe almost, on STP and Get Lucky, there are none.

By the way, the song plays in the background, I just think their voices do not blend particularly well together, with Mark and Emmy, it was much better.
And I really hope, the Saxophone is not too much used on Tracker, I do not like it. Every new direction and attempt that replaces too much pipes and flutes is welcome, for example Kim Wilson was very great and fresh, but I already had trouble with Nigels contribution on the tour - worked perfectly well without him. Plus the Gibson solo sounds too familiar - heard at other occasions more than enough. It is the solo from the short film by the way, so we have sorted that out now definitely.

Looking forward to hear Long Cool Girl, River Towns, Laughs & Jokes, Basil complete, and... and... and..

LE
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Post by: olazabalrok on February 21, 2015, 06:31:40 PM
Beautiful  :)
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Post by: superval99 on February 21, 2015, 06:35:12 PM
It's easier to see it the other way around, makes life more comfortable. But these people have my sympathy, and I don't judge them, each to his own.
It is not the end of the world when a MK song is bad, as I said earlier, I could name at least two songs on every solo album that I could easily live without.
Or maybe almost, on STP and Get Lucky, there are none.

By the way, the song plays in the background, I just think their voices do not blend particularly well together, with Mark and Emmy, it was much better.
And I really hope, the Saxophone is not too much used on Tracker, I do not like it. Every new direction and attempt that replaces too much pipes and flutes is welcome, for example Kim Wilson was very great and fresh, but I already had trouble with Nigels contribution on the tour - worked perfectly well without him. Plus the Gibson solo sounds too familiar - heard at other occasions more than enough. It is the solo from the short film by the way, so we have sorted that out now definitely.

Looking forward to hear Long Cool Girl, River Towns, Laughs & Jokes, Basil complete, and... and... and..

LE

Yes, I noticed that the solo on the short film was from the Mark and Ruth song!   I like it very much, but it is familiar.   ;)
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Post by: ds1984 on February 21, 2015, 06:43:38 PM
Guest vocalists always means a weak song that needed a gimmick to make it sound halfway decent. A strong solid song never needs any other vocalist other than the songwriter himself!

What should we say about the whole ATRR album then?

And The Last Laugh is among my faves ones on STP.
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Post by: Dutchessy on February 21, 2015, 07:04:36 PM
Guest vocalists always means a weak song that needed a gimmick to make it sound halfway decent. A strong solid song never needs any other vocalist other than the songwriter himself!

What should we say about the whole ATRR album then?

And The Last Laugh is among my faves ones on STP.

Indeed, don't take him too serious. Strange remark
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Post by: K-alberto on February 21, 2015, 07:22:59 PM
Maybe this song will not ... "explode" in something like the live version of Kingdom of Gold (which for me is one of the masterpieces of all MK's carreer).... BUT I love Mark's and Ruth's voices, together and alone, this is a wonderful duet, a classic closing for an album that is promising A LOT!

Can't wait for MArch 16!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: richardmu on February 21, 2015, 07:51:37 PM
I listened to it a few times with an open mind. I believe I will never listen again. This song has nothing for me. imho it's extremely boring, almost knocked me out.
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Post by: jbaent on February 21, 2015, 07:58:16 PM
I listened to it once but I don't feel like listen to it again. I hope that it grows on me with more listenings, if I feel like listening to it again.

By the way, to make the video, understand the lyrics must be important. I like the idea.
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Post by: Camerado on February 21, 2015, 08:06:29 PM
DK has already started editing...  ;)
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Post by: Bluebird on February 21, 2015, 08:16:15 PM
First I have to say I would like the song BUT what bothers me is the clicking noise in the background. For me it's like a dripping faucet. It's too loud and I always here this noise that distracts me from the actual song.

Without this noise I would like to hear the song more often, but this noise makes me nervous.
It's a pity.

Is there anybody with similar feelings?

Bluebird
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Post by: LoveExpresso on February 21, 2015, 08:32:14 PM
I used fomas stream and there is no clicking noise whatsoever. I guess you don't mean the drums?

LE


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Post by: rosco on February 21, 2015, 08:43:31 PM
Of the 2 songs we've heard so far- IMO they are poor and I hope they aren't representative of Tracker!...These may be the weaker tunes on the album (I hope so). Tracker could be his best album to date....who knows.

I have been a fan since 1985 and have saw DS, NHB and MK numerous times. Solo, he has made some great records but more and more over the years he has moved towards slower, mediocre music like the above, By what I have heard so far he is just recycling some of his back catalogue!

He's capable of so much better. We'll just have to wait and see what Tracker contains.

Thanks for posting Hola.
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Post by: superval99 on February 21, 2015, 08:43:48 PM
@ Bluebird - Yes I hear it too.  It's the drum, but once you've heard it, it's hard to ignore and can be very distracting.   I'm listening to foma's stream too btw.   ;)
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Post by: holaknopfler on February 21, 2015, 08:46:41 PM
I do understand that there are people who don't like it. Maybe I responded a bit too harsh because I think it's a lovely song to sit down with a glass of nice wine and dream away from the reality.  :) The noise you hear is percussion, or drums. So many people, so many words..
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Post by: Jarle on February 21, 2015, 08:53:50 PM
I listened to it a few times with an open mind. I believe I will never listen again. This song has nothing for me. imho it's extremely boring, almost knocked me out.

Never listen again? Remember to get your local electronic dealer to modify your CD-player so that it stops before the last track on "Tracker". It should be possible, but it will cost you  ;)
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Post by: Dutchessy on February 21, 2015, 08:59:44 PM
DK has already started editing...  ;)

 :lol :lol
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Post by: richardmu on February 21, 2015, 09:08:03 PM
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Never listen again? Remember to get your local electronicw dealer to modify your CD-player so that it stops before the last track on "Tracker". It should be possible, but it will cost you  ;)

No need. Won't be going on my iPod just like all of KTGC.
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Post by: Bluebird on February 21, 2015, 09:13:37 PM
Hallo LE, yes I mean the drums
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Post by: jerrymb on February 21, 2015, 09:14:53 PM
Guest vocalists always means a weak song that needed a gimmick to make it sound halfway decent. A strong solid song never needs any other vocalist other than the songwriter himself!

From 18 of your posts, 16 are negative ones - are you sure you're an MK fan?    I see that you didn't like Privateering either!   :think

I'm a huge MK fan. I just think that mixed in with some great songs are an unusually high amount of very medicore songs.
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Post by: dustyvalentino on February 21, 2015, 09:19:21 PM
Hmm, I hate In the Sky so not holding out much hope for this but waiting for the album before I listen to anymore tracks.
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Post by: dmg on February 21, 2015, 09:45:35 PM
I don't know what to make of it!  Yes, it's slow paced but I don't understand the wide criticism it's received.  Reminds me more of Follow the Ribbon except the end doesn't go on forever without going anywhere.  So after one listen:  not bad.
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Post by: LoveExpresso on February 21, 2015, 09:56:41 PM
Don't you also think that there are too many similiarities with In The Sky or If This Is Goodbye? Plus the yuk Sax... but after the tenth listen I must admit I don't hate it anymore...  ;D  :think

LE

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Post by: dmg on February 21, 2015, 10:02:53 PM
Don't you also think that there are too many similiarities with In The Sky or If This Is Goodbye? Plus the yuk Sax... but after the tenth listen I must admit I don't hate it anymore...  ;D  :think

LE

Can't remember In the Sky as I haven't listened to it in years!  That's the truth.

Perhaps there's just not really much of a structure to the song if you know what I mean.  I think someone said they thought it was "disjointed" and I would probably agree with that point.
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Post by: LoveExpresso on February 21, 2015, 10:04:55 PM
Compare it with In The Sky and you will see what I mean. Have to Google "disjointed" as I am absolutely not into drugs..   ;D

LE
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Post by: Justme on February 21, 2015, 10:45:01 PM
DK has already started editing...  ;)

 :clap

That's a good one! Come on, people of AMIT, there is going to be something in the new record for all of us - I'm sure.
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Post by: straitsway75 on February 21, 2015, 11:06:25 PM
I like this song. I would have preferred to hear more guitar, for example the first solo sax, imagine the same notes, but played with the Les Paul  ::) ::) ::)
Mark always says he is interested in the idea of doing good records and this objectively has always done, but I was always with the idea of not fully liberate his skills as a guitarist  :hmm :hmm
bye
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: Dutchessy on February 21, 2015, 11:14:24 PM
I think the song is better then In the sky and If this is goodbye. The intro of the song is also a cool thing.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: LoveExpresso on February 21, 2015, 11:21:30 PM
I think the song is better then In the sky and If this is goodbye. The intro of the song is also a cool thing.

Meanwhile, I must agree.  :)

LE
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: holaknopfler on February 21, 2015, 11:40:36 PM
I think the song is better then In the sky and If this is goodbye. The intro of the song is also a cool thing.

Meanwhile, I must agree.  :)

LE

Good point.. Although I find it difficult. Must compare them. Meanwhile, I have some difficulties understanding the lyrics at some parts. Anyone who can write them down here? Would me really appreciated :-)
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: LoveExpresso on February 21, 2015, 11:58:23 PM
Came back here to say the same. Mrs. Moodys whispers are sometimes not easy to understand. Wild Blue Yonder and the star fixed in his sky are not mentioned coincidentally. Is it about a(nother) pilot? Or is the setting just an Airport and a couple in the same situation as in Go, Love? The background horns are he reason for the resemblance with In The Sky. It seems the lyrical theme has connections, too.

Please someone write it down.  :wave

LE



Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: jbaent on February 22, 2015, 12:06:46 AM
I had the same thought, Mk's parts are easy to understand but Moody's are quite difficult to understand as she doesn't sing but whisper...
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: El Macho on February 22, 2015, 12:41:25 AM
I've listened to the song "Nest" on Ruth Moody's album 'The Garden'.
The melody and the way she sings is very similar to Wherever I Go !
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: shangri la 1 on February 22, 2015, 01:17:11 AM
 :wave I like it more than In the sky. I like Ruth's voice and the duet parts are nice. Mark has a song for every setting, every occasion, and mine was in sync the first time I heard it.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: MisterYES on February 22, 2015, 01:55:30 AM
This tune is a cutie ;)
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: shangri la 1 on February 22, 2015, 02:34:36 AM
 :smack :think That Lick at 5:50... has been played on something else????? In the sky outro?
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: Mark Heritage on February 22, 2015, 02:37:28 AM
It is hard not to compare it to likes of Are We In Trouble Now, In The Sky and Piper to the End. I do prefer all these to it though..
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: superval99 on February 22, 2015, 09:37:38 AM
To me, it's reminiscent of Follow The Ribbon, but the sax also brings In The Sky to mind.   I have always liked Ruth's voice a lot, but I do wish she wouldn't whisper so much at the ends of her lines - the words just disappear into the air!     

I think it's a good song for ending the standard album.   :)

Thank you for the lyrics, SL1 - it helps a lot!    :thumbsup
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Dutchessy on February 22, 2015, 10:30:57 AM
Whenever I
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: holaknopfler on February 22, 2015, 10:48:10 AM
I just thought of this. If I'm in a very happy enthusiastic mood. Why would I play KTGC? If I have a free Sunday and I'm reading a book, I'd play it. Or for studying. Just thinking out loud. The puzzle pieces now fall in the right places.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: shangri la 1 on February 22, 2015, 10:49:21 AM
Whenever I
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: mschaap on February 22, 2015, 12:59:56 PM
Must say I like this song very much. It's got a nice melody, great singing by Mark als well as Ruth and multiple soli with this awesome Les Paul tone and a proper sax. Superb!

I think it's not realistic to expect every new MK tune to be the best thing you've ever heard. Just be carefull with expectations and enjoy MK still making wonderfull records. So thumbs up for this one again, thank you Mark and keep them coming!
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: holaknopfler on February 22, 2015, 01:01:54 PM
Guy just responded to my question that it is in the provisional setlist
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Dutchessy on February 22, 2015, 01:10:06 PM
Guy just responded to my question that it is in the provisional setlist

My guess it's only for the RAH dates with Nigel and Ruth.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: holaknopfler on February 22, 2015, 01:13:29 PM
Guy just responded to my question that it is in the provisional setlist

My guess it's only for the RAH dates with Nigel and Ruth.

Stimmt, that's what I think as well. I was planning to buy a stick from one of the RAH gigs, so it would be a nice addition, I hope.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: dmg on February 22, 2015, 01:16:42 PM
Guy just responded to my question that it is in the provisional setlist

My guess it's only for the RAH dates with Nigel and Ruth.

Was thinking that last night but then thought it may not be a very good "live song."  I'm surprised to hear it's on the provisional list.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: shangri la 1 on February 22, 2015, 01:16:58 PM
:smack :think That Lick at 5:50... has been played on something else????? In the sky outro?

Been thrashing this all day and I have finally cracked IT!

Clue:- It's not from "In the sky"
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Barzofarhyme on February 22, 2015, 01:20:51 PM
Guy just responded to my question that it is in the provisional setlist

My guess it's only for the RAH dates with Nigel and Ruth.

Stimmt, that's what I think as well. I was planning to buy a stick from one of the RAH gigs, so it would be a nice addition, I hope.


Are the RAH dates available from this tour? From memory i don't think they were last tour.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: LoveExpresso on February 22, 2015, 01:37:47 PM
:smack :think That Lick at 5:50... has been played on something else????? In the sky outro?

Been thrashing this all day and I have finally cracked IT!

Clue:- It's not from "In the sky"

I checked and I didn't hear any lick at 5:50?

LE
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on February 22, 2015, 07:38:27 PM
Have to say I've listened to it twice now. My 1st thoughts were of course it sounds very similar to 'In the sky' which for me isn't a bad thing, as I fell in love with that the 1st time I heard it on KTGC. Ruth's voice is beautiful, & reminds me of Cara Dillon, who has the voice of an angel. Also of Alison Krauss in places. I like the sax, but too similar to 'In the sky' imho. Les Paul is of course delicious, but I'd like Mark to experiment more with the licks & solos, as he does tend to stick to the same formula.
All in all I've heard two songs from Tracker so far, & I'm very pleased. My only fear from watching the 5 minute short film, is that there maybe a Sonny, Lonny slide guitar type of song, or a Bonaparte, which would not necessarily be my cup of tea. Time will tell.
Cheers.  BBB
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Justme on February 22, 2015, 07:57:37 PM
Les Paul is of course delicious, but I'd like Mark to experiment more with the licks & solos, as he does tend to stick to the same formula.

Very well put, BBB, although I don't like the sax.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Fieneke2 on February 22, 2015, 09:40:15 PM

I have been listening to the song a few times and .......I like it very much!  ;D

Thank you for posting the lyrics, it makes listening a bit easier! I agree with some people that the song is a little bit slow, BUT it isn't disturbing!

Would be great to hear this song life! :P

Fieneke
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: shangri la 1 on February 23, 2015, 01:03:09 AM
:smack :think That Lick at 5:50... has been played on something else????? In the sky outro?

Been thrashing this all day and I have finally cracked IT!

Clue:- It's not from "In the sky"
Sorry LE, I should have checked the YT video version. My audio version is at 5:50. The YT Vid has it at 5:43

I checked and I didn't hear any lick at 5:50?

LE
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: superval99 on February 23, 2015, 09:46:48 AM
I only wonder what that Review meant by calling this duet Celtic or what was he saying..

LE

Maybe he was comparing it to "Sons of Scotland" from "A Shot At Glory"?    That was what came into my mind when I heard it on the short film.   ;)
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on February 23, 2015, 12:03:33 PM
I listened about ten times to it now and I still find it too close to other songs. I love the intro! Some may hate Guy's pads/synths/atmospheric sounds, but I've been really missing them since TRD. I think they're part of MK's overall sound. The acoustic lick from 3:33-3:35 is used so many times, e.g. in Irish Boy from Cal. The Les Paul solo at 3:54 is a slower version of the first solo of Are We In Trouble Now. Besides these literal quotes, it just sounds too much the same for me.

Lately I've been thinking about MK's musical direction. Not about style directions (like country/celtic), but more about melody/harmony. Maybe he's running out of ideas and I can't blame him. He did some marvelous work harmonically, for example the verses of Seattle in C and it's chorus in F (that's pure brilliance), Sands of Nevada, Your Latest Trick, etc... but for the last couple of years he stays very close to one key and it's diatonic triads (a that itself is very celtic). And sound-wise, imagine Beryl played with the Les Paul and Wherever I Go with the Strat, that's much more drastic than choosing another microphone but he won't. These kinds of songs are bound to a specific guitar. It's not like having much more time at BG studio has resulted in drastic new sounds, technically the sound is better than ever.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: holaknopfler on February 23, 2015, 12:13:36 PM
I listened about ten times to it now and I still find it too close to other songs. I love the intro! Some may hate Guy's pads/synths/atmospheric sounds, but I've been really missing them since TRD. I think they're part of MK's overall sound. The acoustic lick from 3:33-3:35 is used so many times, e.g. in Irish Boy from Cal. The Les Paul solo at 3:54 is a slower version of the first solo of Are We In Trouble Now. Besides these literal quotes, it just sounds too much the same for me.

Lately I've been thinking about MK's musical direction. Not about style directions (like country/celtic), but more about melody/harmony. Maybe he's running out of ideas and I can't blame him. He did some marvelous work harmonically, for example the verses of Seattle in C and it's chorus in F (that's pure brilliance), Sands of Nevada, Your Latest Trick, etc... but for the last couple of years he stays very close to one key and it's diatonic triads (a that itself is very celtic). And sound-wise, imagine Beryl played with the Les Paul and Wherever I Go with the Strat, that's much more drastic than choosing another microphone but he won't. These kinds of songs are bound to a specific guitar. It's not like having much more time at BG studio has resulted in drastic new sounds, technically the sound is better than ever.

Interesting thoughts, TheTimeWasWrong. I happen to agree a bit. The riffs with the Les Pau are not so difficult to copy if you know where Mark would put his fingers on the fretboard, in these songs you can make a good guess if you know what I mean. Nevertheless I still think it is pure brilliance which sound he gets from the guitar on these songs. You really have to be gentle with the tips of your fingers (don't use nails), both left and right. Still he is a bit in safe modus with this song, musically speaking, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if we're going to hear this song more than one time played live. Both sides of the story, again ;D
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: superval99 on February 23, 2015, 01:39:50 PM
The old masters, Mozart, Bach, etc  had their own sound and the same notes, themes, etc can be heard in most of their compositions.  That is why they are instantly recognisable - the same as MK!  ;)
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: holaknopfler on February 23, 2015, 01:44:15 PM
The old masters, Mozart, Bach, etc  had their own sound and the same notes, themes, etc can be heard in most of their compositions.  That is why they are instantly recognisable - the same as MK!  ;)

Nice words superval, did you ever listen to Glenn Gould? One of the greatest pianists I've ever heard, beautiful playing of Bach! He also had his very own style, which made him such a great musician.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Neville Sherman on February 23, 2015, 03:08:23 PM
My two penneth for what it is worth. I think this is a great song! This is a guy who is a master of the craft of song writing. Think of the songs in a similar vein - Golden Heart / In the Sky / If This is Goodbye / Piper to the End - beautiful from start to finish. This new  one is in the same mould. Great stuff!
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: dmg on February 23, 2015, 03:27:18 PM
Follow the Ribbon meets Radio City Serenade.  Sax sounds very well played IMO (I'm no expert though) and Ruth's voice is so sweet.  Not as disjointed as I thought at first, perhaps my mind was wandering after the 1:00 mark as it's difficult to pay attention to a song so slow. You keep expecting it to burst into life but it never does.  On and on at the same monotonous slow pace until it fades out.  It is good but doesn't grab me and is completely forgettable.  I had it on repeat for over half an hour last night and still can't hum it or quote any lyrics. 

If he plays this live they'll need to sound the fire alarm at the venue to waken up the audience at the end!  Perhaps it could replace Marbletown in the set...  :think
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: LoveExpresso on February 23, 2015, 03:34:30 PM
   It is good but doesn't grab me and is completely forgettable.  I had it on repeat for over half an hour last night and still can't hum it or quote any lyrics. 
 

Yes, exactly.

LE
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: superval99 on February 23, 2015, 03:37:20 PM
To me it's "Follow The Ribbon"/ "Sons of Scotland" with lyrics!    Since I have been listening to the song rather a lot, it has become much less disjointed to me too, plus the tune is now stuck in my head, mixed with Basil!   I like it very much!   :)
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: sweetsurrender on February 23, 2015, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: Dutchessy link=topic=4059.msg89546#msg89546
date=1424607006
Guy just responded to my question that it is in the provisional setlist

My guess it's only for the RAH dates with Nigel and Ruth.

Was thinking that last night but then thought it may not be a very good "live song."  I'm surprised to hear it's on the provisional list.


agreed :thumbsup. The song is too slow for a live concert. I'm afraid it will put people who are not too familiar with Mark's songs to sleep.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: superval99 on February 23, 2015, 03:41:18 PM
Perfect for listening to at the end of the day with a glass of wine!    :)
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Jarle on February 23, 2015, 03:53:31 PM
Quote from: Dutchessy link=topic=4059.msg89546#msg89546
date=1424607006
Guy just responded to my question that it is in the provisional setlist

My guess it's only for the RAH dates with Nigel and Ruth.

Was thinking that last night but then thought it may not be a very good "live song."  I'm surprised to hear it's on the provisional list.


agreed :thumbsup. The song is too slow for a live concert. I'm afraid it will put people who are not too familiar with Mark's songs to sleep.

He did play "The Fish and the Bird" live, so I wouldn't say this one is to slow. I doubt however that he will play it live. I'm not sure why...
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: K-alberto on February 23, 2015, 03:54:54 PM
The old masters, Mozart, Bach, etc  had their own sound and the same notes, themes, etc can be heard in most of their compositions.  That is why they are instantly recognisable - the same as MK!  ;)

That's a really good point!!
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Jana on February 23, 2015, 04:00:44 PM
   It is good but doesn't grab me and is completely forgettable.  I had it on repeat for over half an hour last night and still can't hum it or quote any lyrics. 
 

Yes, exactly.

LE

+1

I listened it several times and can't remember it.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: superval99 on February 23, 2015, 04:19:00 PM
Although I like the song a lot, I feel it would be much better if the tempo was faster.   When I'm listening and singing along, I'm at the end of each line and ready for the next before it's sung!  It's quite tiring actually! ;D   
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Barzofarhyme on February 23, 2015, 04:29:50 PM
Although I like the song a lot, I feel it would be much better if the tempo was faster.   When I'm listening and singing along, I'm at the end of each line and ready for the next before it's sung!  It's quite tiring actually! ;D

Agreed :thumbsup

Ruth Moody has a fabulous voice and i like this song a lot. But like you,just wish it was a little more uptempo as well.Maybe we could buy the album on vinyl and play it at 45rpm instead off 33  ;D ;D
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: dmg on February 23, 2015, 04:31:38 PM
Although I like the song a lot, I feel it would be much better if the tempo was faster.   When I'm listening and singing along, I'm at the end of each line and ready for the next before it's sung!  It's quite tiring actually! ;D

Agreed :thumbsup

Ruth Moody has a fabulous voice and i like this song a lot. But like you,just wish it was a little more uptempo as well.Maybe we could buy the album on vinyl and play it at 45rpm instead off 33  ;D ;D

 :lol
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: ollyz on February 23, 2015, 04:43:02 PM
I like this song.
Its slow,yes, its nothing new nor sensationel, ok, but i like.

Whats more and more clear for me is that Mr. Knopfler does these day what he likes to do, nothing else.
The short video shows this in my opinion very clear.
He plays, writes and records music for his own, and in the end shares this with the "fans".
"Where i go" is a first class example.

Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: dmg on February 23, 2015, 04:48:46 PM
Further to what I said before, after another listen, I would add that perhaps the lyrics are just too clich
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: foma on February 23, 2015, 05:46:34 PM
Further to what I said before, after another listen, I would add that perhaps the lyrics are just too clich
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: LoveExpresso on February 23, 2015, 07:44:23 PM
Can't say I have completely understood the situation that the song describes. A couple seems to be forced to meet at little motels or hotels, because he is forced to wander from place to place... but that "brother" will not fit with this. It seems clear that a man and a woman speak the Mark and Ruth parts?

I was indeed thinking about personal song ideas yesterday. A deep love song with Ruth Moody singing the female part makes me think about .. well..
Kitty (don't laugh at me) and what she might think about it.  :o  So maybe it is not just about love, but more meant the way that "All The Roadrunning"
was meant or "This Is Us"?

A REAL personal song from my point of view is for example "Basil", because a young copy boy that meets Basil Bunting is so specific, so it has to be Mark himself. This is a song that has the young Mark as a protagonist, no doubt, there is no applicability in this song for other levels/persons/ideas as Mark wants to achieve in many of his other songs. I find that remarkable. Only knowing what he himself said about "Laugh & Jokes and Drinks & Smokes", it seems it is another song on this same personal level.

How many other songs have Mark K. himself as a protagonist? Can't remember too many..

LE
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: superval99 on February 23, 2015, 08:51:24 PM
2nd verse, last line is:       I don't feel alone in the night      ;)



Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: Shai on February 23, 2015, 08:54:32 PM
In the case of Wherever I Go yes. Beryl is very generic sounding and Wherever I Go is almost painful to listen to without falling asleep.I hope the other tracks are classic MK because these two tracks are as medicore as you can get.

Painful? Wow. This song is amazing....for you guys bored with it, at least its the last song on the official cd, so if you fall asleep, great!

"There's a place for us" reminds me of Romeo & Juliet. I also hear My Claim to Fame and a few others, but so what! The man has been putting out great music for 38 years now! A few are bound to remind us of other songs, but so what!

"LET'S SEE YOU DO BETTER, SHUT UP AND DEAL".

Saul
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: shangri la 1 on February 23, 2015, 09:41:14 PM
2nd verse, last line is:       I don't feel alone in the night      ;)
:thumbsup :clap Nice work Val!
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: LoveExpresso on February 23, 2015, 10:26:31 PM
And would the first line not be
Maybe I'm bound to wAnder?

LE
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: yontwocrows on February 23, 2015, 10:33:27 PM
Please, guys, don't post that much. I've had no internet connection for two days, and this thread alone is exploding  :smack
It's hard to stay informed  ;D
Just my 2 cents: I like the song, it's certainly not my favourite song, tempo is very slow (which is always a bit hard), and yes it depends therefore on the mood you're in. I agree with the comparison to in the sky. In contrast to other opinions i like the sax part (yes it's 80, sax is always '80). I love especially the fine playing of Nigel, the dynamic range and the soft beginning of the notes. I listened to the song at least 20 times, because I had time and had to wait and was too lazy to stop the loop. It's a good song for special moods and i like the singing of Ruth Moody very much. No complaints about that!
Thanks for the lyrics, waiting for the tabs (foma!). Very interesting what you all think about the song. Clearly a song that will only be played when Ruth Moody is guest!

I have the feeling that the album is a sort of concept album (at least more than his other albums.)  I think the song is a perfect closer! Looking forward to the album i think it's not so good to listen to the song as extracts, the songs are better embedded in context.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Millionaire Blues on February 24, 2015, 12:01:36 AM
Thank you mark for this incredible song... The  sentiment resonates with me so deeply!! The music is incredible and marks vocal is the best he had ever delivered!!! X
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: foma on February 24, 2015, 12:34:43 AM
Thanks for the lyrics, waiting for the tabs (foma!)

Wow, thanks for waiting! I have no any guitar at the moment, so I'm trying to make my way through chords without it. I think today or tomorrow I'll get the guitar at last and would finish it up. Funny, but this song, after million listenings, also reminded to me 'Get Lucky' because of the same key and some similar rhythm-guitar chops.

I think that slide lick and transition to sax on 05:23 is a kind of thing, what makes me listen to this song and keeps waiting for this moment. It's just gorgeous! Love that part from documentary already.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: yontwocrows on February 24, 2015, 01:18:34 AM
:smack :think That Lick at 5:50... has been played on something else????? In the sky outro?

Been thrashing this all day and I have finally cracked IT!

Clue:- It's not from "In the sky"
Please, another hint. I've the same problem, and i'm dying. I know this three notes pretty well, and i even know a few next notes that are not played here. I would guess it's an allusion to DS Times, not to MK solo, right? But I'm not sure.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: pete_w on February 24, 2015, 08:03:25 AM
Please, another hint. I've the same problem, and i'm dying. I know this three notes pretty well, and i even know a few next notes that are not played here. I would guess it's an allusion to DS Times, not to MK solo, right? But I'm not sure.

Back to toupee-lo
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Rail King on February 24, 2015, 08:15:50 AM
Interesting comments on a maybe not so interesting song!  ;)

I think it's just a little too mawkish overall, with the clich
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: yontwocrows on February 24, 2015, 09:20:52 AM
Please, another hint. I've the same problem, and i'm dying. I know this three notes pretty well, and i even know a few next notes that are not played here. I would guess it's an allusion to DS Times, not to MK solo, right? But I'm not sure.

Back to toupee-lo
Ah, yes similar. But in the meantime i fell more reminded of the intro of it never rains, although the tempo is faster.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: pete_w on February 24, 2015, 09:41:35 AM
... super-slow pace, Ruth's whispering voice, the 80's sax and, oh, that massage room synth intro courtesy of Guy.

... I'd feel quite anxious about Guy having produced the whole album ...

Considering the fact that Mark quite happily wears the elderly-gentleman-farmer label now, I think Guy's soft pop / easy listening sensibilities will suit Mark well. "... horses, sunsets / sweet nothings - the seaside with yachts" is also art. Some could call it bland, but there's no accounting for taste, I guess.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Rail King on February 24, 2015, 11:03:53 AM
... super-slow pace, Ruth's whispering voice, the 80's sax and, oh, that massage room synth intro courtesy of Guy.

... I'd feel quite anxious about Guy having produced the whole album ...

Considering the fact that Mark quite happily wears the elderly-gentleman-farmer label now, I think Guy's soft pop / easy listening sensibilities will suit Mark well. "... horses, sunsets / sweet nothings - the seaside with yachts" is also art. Some could call it bland, but there's no accounting for taste, I guess.

Nicely put. But then Mark used to make fun of those "sweet nothings", right? The painter in that song laments the fact that "seaside with yachts" is what people want from him. Anyway, it's certainly not what I want from Mark, and I'm glad he usually stays above that level of blandness. As for Guy's influence, I just think he may be a skilled technician, capable keyboard player and nice chap overall, but an awful style advisor, and it's Mark's biggest fault not to realize that.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: foma on February 24, 2015, 11:11:15 AM
... super-slow pace, Ruth's whispering voice, the 80's sax and, oh, that massage room synth intro courtesy of Guy.

... I'd feel quite anxious about Guy having produced the whole album ...

Considering the fact that Mark quite happily wears the elderly-gentleman-farmer label now, I think Guy's soft pop / easy listening sensibilities will suit Mark well. "... horses, sunsets / sweet nothings - the seaside with yachts" is also art. Some could call it bland, but there's no accounting for taste, I guess.

Nicely put. But then Mark used to make fun of those "sweet nothings", right? The painter in that song laments the fact that "seaside with yachts" is what people want from him. Anyway, it's certainly not what I want from Mark, and I'm glad he usually stays above that level of blandness. As for Guy's influence, I just think he may be a skilled technician, capable keyboard player and nice chap overall, but an awful style advisor, and it's Mark's biggest fault not to realize that.

Golden words, man. I can't listen 'Dream of Drowned Submariner' because of its pop-style delayed words in middle part. I 100% sure it was Guy influence.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: pete_w on February 24, 2015, 11:32:44 AM
Nicely put. But then Mark used to make fun of those "sweet nothings", right? The painter in that song laments the fact that "seaside with yachts" is what people want from him. Anyway, it's certainly not what I want from Mark, and I'm glad he usually stays above that level of blandness. As for Guy's influence, I just think he may be a skilled technician, capable keyboard player and nice chap overall, but an awful style advisor, and it's Mark's biggest fault not to realize that.

Oh, sure, Mark's never given a skilletful of crapola about what others want from him artistically, but as he approaches life's final stages, I don't think we can expect him to  put on leather pants and sing she tastes like a peach anymore (be a bit creepy in fact). Let's just hope Guy hasn't turned this completely into The Ultimate Spa Resort Soundtrack 11. He can keep that for his own solo records.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: border_reiver on February 24, 2015, 11:38:26 AM
... super-slow pace, Ruth's whispering voice, the 80's sax and, oh, that massage room synth intro courtesy of Guy.

... I'd feel quite anxious about Guy having produced the whole album ...

Considering the fact that Mark quite happily wears the elderly-gentleman-farmer label now, I think Guy's soft pop / easy listening sensibilities will suit Mark well. "... horses, sunsets / sweet nothings - the seaside with yachts" is also art. Some could call it bland, but there's no accounting for taste, I guess.

Nicely put. But then Mark used to make fun of those "sweet nothings", right? The painter in that song laments the fact that "seaside with yachts" is what people want from him. Anyway, it's certainly not what I want from Mark, and I'm glad he usually stays above that level of blandness. As for Guy's influence, I just think he may be a skilled technician, capable keyboard player and nice chap overall, but an awful style advisor, and it's Mark's biggest fault not to realize that.

Golden words, man. I can't listen 'Dream of Drowned Submariner' because of its pop-style delayed words in middle part. I 100% sure it was Guy influence.

But Guy has been a major sidekick for so long that his opinions and influences are weaved into MK's. And because of that Guy is a proper part of the "MK sound".

But when I feel like hearing the standalone MK sound without Guy I usually play the solo from Sonny Landreth's "Congo Square"  ;D

Oh yeah! This is MK for me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sloap5PUi40#t=187
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: border_reiver on February 24, 2015, 11:39:12 AM
Let's just hope Guy hasn't turned this completely into The Ultimate Spa Resort Soundtrack 11. He can keep that for his own solo records.

 :lol  :lol  :lol

A mere five posts into AMIT and already an awesome guy! ;D
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: superval99 on February 24, 2015, 12:05:43 PM
... super-slow pace, Ruth's whispering voice, the 80's sax and, oh, that massage room synth intro courtesy of Guy.

... I'd feel quite anxious about Guy having produced the whole album ...

Considering the fact that Mark quite happily wears the elderly-gentleman-farmer label now, I think Guy's soft pop / easy listening sensibilities will suit Mark well. "... horses, sunsets / sweet nothings - the seaside with yachts" is also art. Some could call it bland, but there's no accounting for taste, I guess.

Nicely put. But then Mark used to make fun of those "sweet nothings", right? The painter in that song laments the fact that "seaside with yachts" is what people want from him. Anyway, it's certainly not what I want from Mark, and I'm glad he usually stays above that level of blandness. As for Guy's influence, I just think he may be a skilled technician, capable keyboard player and nice chap overall, but an awful style advisor, and it's Mark's biggest fault not to realize that.

Golden words, man. I can't listen 'Dream of Drowned Submariner' because of its pop-style delayed words in middle part. I 100% sure it was Guy influence.

But Guy has been a major sidekick for so long that his opinions and influences are weaved into MK's. And because of that Guy is a proper part of the "MK sound".

But when I feel like hearing the standalone MK sound without Guy I usually play the solo from Sonny Landreth's "Congo Square"  ;D

Oh yeah! This is MK for me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sloap5PUi40#t=187

Thanks for that clip, BR!    I usually turn on "Blue Tarp Blues" for my fix!    ;D
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: border_reiver on February 24, 2015, 12:28:54 PM

Thanks for that clip, BR!    I usually turn on "Blue Tarp Blues" for my fix!    ;D

Just a tad off topic at the moment :)

But remember that the BTB parts were cut at British Grove with GF in the vicinity ;)

And the funny thing was that the recording of BTB almost went on like a tennis match. Sonny sent his material for MK to fill inn and when he got it back from Mark, well Sonny thought it was so good that he had to re-record his own parts.

So the great deal with Congo Square is that MK went over to Louisiana and Sonny Landreth and the moss laden tree-surroundings of Breaux Bridge. It's just pure MK grit coming from a gumbo of Louisiana culture and playing with musicians from those parts.

No tremolo twangs, soothing flutes, Vox Continentals or delayed song parts :)
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: LoveExpresso on February 24, 2015, 12:55:43 PM
In Opposition to some forumers I must say that I have indeed high Hopes that Guy gives BACK some of the tasteful synth elements that used to be trademarks of MK's work for so long. Speedway,  Wanderlust, Junkie Doll, Sands of Nevada, Private Investigations were all benefiting from it. The snippet of Basil is very promising in that department. Ans on Taormina he seems to play percussion as well. That's what I would call fresh and back to DS Sound if any.

LE
Title: Wherever I Go Chords
Post by: foma on February 24, 2015, 01:12:53 PM
http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/m/mark_knopfler/wherever_i_go_crd.htm

As it often happens with mainly piano songs, chord voicings are quite varied.
Some guitar chords are crucial, though, and played through the song identically.
Basically, you can always simplify fancy chords to first letter (e.g. Cadd9 to C).

If you want to see how bad piano songs could be for a guitar player, check out Sting's 'Practical Arrangement':
http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/s/sting/practical_arrangement_tab.htm

 :lol
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: jbaent on February 24, 2015, 01:12:58 PM
In Opposition to some forumers I must say that I have indeed high Hopes that Guy gives BACK some of the tasteful synth elements that used to be trademarks of MK's work for so long. Speedway,  Wanderlust, Junkie Doll, Sands of Nevada, Private Investigations were all benefiting from it. The snippet of Basil is very promising in that department. Ans on Taormina he seems to play percussion as well. That's what I would call fresh and back to DS Sound if any.

LE

Fully agree. And with Vicente Amigo record he demonstrated not only his skills as producer and engineer but also the feeling that it
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: pete_w on February 24, 2015, 02:27:57 PM
Tierra sounds very nice. No doubt that Guy knows his craft. But he's a mellow fellow. Nothing wrong with that, but his personality is reflected in his production. Also nothing wrong in that, but in combination with the quiet farmer gentleman of rock n roll things may get a little into elevator territory. Which might be what Mark desires.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Rail King on February 24, 2015, 02:46:04 PM
Let's just hope Guy hasn't turned this completely into The Ultimate Spa Resort Soundtrack 11. He can keep that for his own solo records.

 :lol  :lol  :lol

A mere five posts into AMIT and already an awesome guy! ;D

Hehehe, yes, fingers crossed!

But to be fair, and in response to jbaent's comment: Yes, there ARE songs where Guy's influence is strong, and that still do it for me. "Rolling on" would be an example, from the Emmy record. Or "Seattle". "Basil" might turn out to work like that, too - I surely hope so. However, stuff like "Congo Square" and a great many songs from his solo career prove that MK wouldn't need any synth make-up to make his sound complete. The songs are strong enough to stand on their own, and great musicians is all it takes to fill them with life. Speaking of which, how about adding some Paul Franklin and Jim Cox to "Wherever I Go"?
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Rail King on February 24, 2015, 02:51:29 PM
Tierra sounds very nice. No doubt that Guy knows his craft. But he's a mellow fellow. Nothing wrong with that, but his personality is reflected in his production. Also nothing wrong in that, but in combination with the quiet farmer gentleman of rock n roll things may get a little into elevator territory. Which might be what Mark desires.

That (getting into elevator territory) is the fear I have with every new album. However I just can't and refuse to believe that this is what Mark Knopfler wants.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: pete_w on February 24, 2015, 03:04:22 PM
Kind of like getting all worked up over a cuppa and a bickie, then saying to Guy: "Allright, let's hit it and make some really sappy, tepid slosh suitable for dentists' offices, shall we?"

I don't think so :)
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Rail King on February 24, 2015, 03:09:17 PM
Kind of like getting all worked up over a cuppa and a bickie, then saying to Guy: "Allright, let's hit it and make some really sappy, tepid slosh suitable for dentists' offices, shall we?"

I don't think so :)

 :) :) :) NO, that just CAN'T be, right?
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: pete_w on February 24, 2015, 03:17:43 PM
Hard to believe, yes :)

Time to shut up for me and wait for the release.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Knopflerfan on February 24, 2015, 04:10:11 PM
At last I've been able to sit down, and play this through the Bose....
Erm am I the only one who isn't too sure about this track??!!
Bit too slow for me personally, but maybe it will take time......
Title: Re: Wherever I Go Chords
Post by: Knopflerfan on February 24, 2015, 04:11:14 PM
Well done Foma, there is plenty of time with this song being 'slow' to get those Chord changes in!!!!!
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: cannibals on February 24, 2015, 04:29:27 PM
This song is in the provisional setlist...
Do you think reahearsels has already started or is it just on the list of songs MK has choosen to play during rehearseltime??
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: H97 on February 24, 2015, 05:19:16 PM
This song is in the provisional setlist...
Do you think reahearsels has already started or is it just on the list of songs MK has choosen to play during rehearseltime??

Where to find that list?
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: holaknopfler on February 24, 2015, 05:31:26 PM
This song is in the provisional setlist...
Do you think reahearsels has already started or is it just on the list of songs MK has choosen to play during rehearseltime??

Where to find that list?

Rehearsals start end april I believe
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: border_reiver on February 24, 2015, 06:23:27 PM
This song is in the provisional setlist...
Do you think reahearsels has already started or is it just on the list of songs MK has choosen to play during rehearseltime??

I have never ever taken a pee break but if this one is being played, I am seriously considering doing so  :)
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Knopflerfan on February 24, 2015, 06:47:57 PM
Two pee breaks then!! With Romeo and this new one... mind you may sound better live??
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: holaknopfler on February 24, 2015, 07:44:49 PM
Totally off topic.. But I just played Get Lucky, as a full album again and I've forgotten how good it is. I really like So Far From The Clyde again. A really strong song. More of this please!!
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: cannibals on February 24, 2015, 08:01:20 PM
This song is in the provisional setlist...
Do you think reahearsels has already started or is it just on the list of songs MK has choosen to play during rehearseltime??

Where to find that list?

Guy confirmed this  (only this song) on his forum. The list...... i wish i had that one.......  :lol
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: TJ on February 24, 2015, 09:24:16 PM

That (getting into elevator territory) is the fear I have with every new album. However I just can't and refuse to believe that this is what Mark Knopfler wants.

I think that the last three albums have sounded like that.  I have higher hopes for this one.

Getting back to the point of the thread, I like the song.  Not my favorite, by any means, but it's much better than Seattle, and not so similar to In the Sky or Are we in Trouble Now or If This is Goodbye that it bothers me.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: LoveExpresso on February 24, 2015, 10:15:07 PM
Interesting. Seattle is a whole other categorie and universe for me. That one is a real gem and a classic. I don't think I will ever really like Wherever I Go.
someone said it pretty nice: It is a mixture of too much well known stuff. Without any original new parts.

 :D ;)

LE
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: pete_w on February 24, 2015, 10:47:21 PM
Both this tune and Beryl are quite unoriginal. Maybe he's saved the originality for the remaining tracks? Maybe they form a rock opera? Accompanied by tin whistles and slide guitars?
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Rail King on February 25, 2015, 10:08:35 AM
Interesting. Seattle is a whole other categorie and universe for me. That one is a real gem and a classic. I don't think I will ever really like Wherever I Go.
someone said it pretty nice: It is a mixture of too much well known stuff. Without any original new parts.

 :D ;)

LE

Couldn't agree more. Seattle, IMHO, is one of the best songs he's ever written. Pure genius. Whereas Wherever I Go is a (quite beautiful, admittingly) re-hash of old ideas. I also fail to understand how you can compare it to Follow the Ribbon, another one of my all-time favs. Yes, it has a similar line in "wherever it flows", but that's about it. Follow the Ribbon and Seattle really deeply touch me, while this new one is just
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Knopflerfan on February 25, 2015, 02:29:29 PM
I have just listened through my headphones to this and now having heard it 'umpteen' times I am getting to like this... The words are so, very beautiful and so is the Guitar playing...
I'm thinking how MK's & Ruth's voices go so well together....

I really can't wait for the 16th March now..........
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: superval99 on February 25, 2015, 03:04:12 PM
I have just listened through my headphones to this and now having heard it 'umpteen' times I am getting to like this... The words are so, very beautiful and so is the Guitar playing...
I'm thinking how MK's & Ruth's voices go so well together....

I really can't wait for the 16th March now..........

It was bound to happen to you eventually, Knopflerfan!    When I'm unsure of a song, I usually listen to it when I'm doing something else and it almost always works.   I like songs that are growers more than the more immediate ones.   :)

PS:  I had a beautiful dream last night and this song ran through it!  I didn't want it to end!   ;)
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: D44mu on February 25, 2015, 05:19:56 PM
For me the song has it
Title: Re: Wherever I Go Chords
Post by: yontwocrows on February 25, 2015, 10:03:43 PM
Thanks foma!
Title: Re: Wherever I Go Chords
Post by: foma on February 25, 2015, 10:26:58 PM
You are welcome! By the way, very subtle music in terms of chord structure. Full of fancy chords! Beryl had fancy chords only in the intro.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: WHEREVER I GO ON TALENTHOUSE!
Post by: shangri la 1 on February 25, 2015, 11:34:15 PM
:smack :think That Lick at 5:50... has been played on something else????? In the sky outro?

Been thrashing this all day and I have finally cracked IT!

Clue:- It's not from "In the sky"
Please, another hint. I've the same problem, and i'm dying. I know this three notes pretty well, and i even know a few next notes that are not played here. I would guess it's an allusion to DS Times, not to MK solo, right? But I'm not sure.
Hint 2: It is not from an MK composition.
 ;)
Title: Re: Wherever I Go Chords
Post by: shangri la 1 on February 26, 2015, 12:08:49 AM
http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/m/mark_knopfler/wherever_i_go_crd.htm

As it often happens with mainly piano songs, chord voicings are quite varied.
Some guitar chords are crucial, though, and played through the song identically.
Basically, you can always simplify fancy chords to first letter (e.g. Cadd9 to C).

If you want to see how bad piano songs could be for a guitar player, check out Sting's 'Practical Arrangement':
http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/s/sting/practical_arrangement_tab.htm



 :lol
Nice work foma! Thanks for your time & efforts.  :clap
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: foma on February 26, 2015, 12:14:43 AM
Thank you very much! Buy you used non-monospaced font again, so it looks messy again :lol
Title: Re: Wherever I Go Chords
Post by: Ar (aka Enlight) on February 26, 2015, 01:07:48 AM
http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/m/mark_knopfler/wherever_i_go_crd.htm

As it often happens with mainly piano songs, chord voicings are quite varied.
Some guitar chords are crucial, though, and played through the song identically.
Basically, you can always simplify fancy chords to first letter (e.g. Cadd9 to C).

If you want to see how bad piano songs could be for a guitar player, check out Sting's 'Practical Arrangement':
http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/s/sting/practical_arrangement_tab.htm

 :lol

you r right about the chords variation guitar vs piano.

great job , like always.
thanks a lot!!
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Knopflerfan on February 26, 2015, 01:44:36 AM
Couldn't resist it so got my 2nd MK Strat out this afternoon for a real in depth blast at the many solo's playable on this beautiful song.....I also bashed out some licks with 'Beryl'.. (yes I know that sounds rude!!)
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: shangri la 1 on February 26, 2015, 06:34:19 AM
Thank you very much! Buy you used non-monospaced font again, so it looks messy again :lol
Yes sorry foma. I remembered after I posted it that you said to use the Courier font on the Beryl tabs.  :-[  ::)
Hope it is ok now  :thumbsup
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: foma on February 26, 2015, 09:26:23 AM
Looks nice. Very cool idea with separate songs, by the way, that's the way it meant to be! Wish to have that feature on all albums.
I remember year ago or so I started a topic on re-organisation of discussions with separate songs and finally, the result is gorgeous.

Sorry for off-topic.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: shangri la 1 on February 26, 2015, 12:14:27 PM
If you have already transcribed the tablature & or are able willing to do it for Marks previous albums we should (time permitting) be able to repeat the same format for each album.....?
A good starting point might be the two albums which are currently featured in the [Previous Albums] section, being, Privateering (2012) and Get Lucky (2010)?

 :thumbsup :clap
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Marijo58 on February 26, 2015, 03:43:45 PM
I have a question about this song,  just want to know if anybody knows who's the saxophonist playing? Thanks. Can it be Chris White? Anyway I find this duet very awesome, Ruth Moody's voice is matching nicely with MK's!!!!
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on February 26, 2015, 04:40:06 PM
I have a question about this song,  just want to know if anybody knows who's the saxophonist playing? Thanks. Can it be Chris White? Anyway I find this duet very awesome, Ruth Moody's voice is matching nicely with MK's!!!!
Nigel Hitchcock
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Marijo58 on February 26, 2015, 05:32:43 PM
I have a question about this song,  just want to know if anybody knows who's the saxophonist playing? Thanks. Can it be Chris White? Anyway I find this duet very awesome, Ruth Moody's voice is matching nicely with MK's!!!!
Nigel Hitchcock
Thanks for the info TheTimeWasWrong!! I should have guessed but didn't remember his name.:thumbsup :wave
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: nando_5994 on February 27, 2015, 12:12:13 PM
HI.
long time reading you guys and now also writing in here.

This is one of the best songs put together by MK. RM singing is great and the frinal result is fantastic.

Bet with you, this one, is going to turn one of the best songs for most of you.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: foma on February 27, 2015, 06:24:25 PM
If you have already transcribed the tablature & or are able willing to do it for Marks previous albums we should (time permitting) be able to repeat the same format for each album.....?
A good starting point might be the two albums which are currently featured in the [Previous Albums] section, being, Privateering (2012) and Get Lucky (2010)?

 :thumbsup :clap

I'm completely ready! Looking forward to revisit my old chords, because they are full of mistakes although still playable. Now my ears are much better :D
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: foma on March 07, 2015, 12:09:48 AM
By the way, Talenthouse posted [looking like official] lyrics for the song here:

https://res.cloudinary.com/talenthouse/image/upload/v1/invites/ehz3l5ehpyykkns4uu1k.pdf
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 07, 2015, 07:05:06 AM
They’re looking to close up in here
They’re pulling down the blinds
But they’ll let you stay awhile
They’re not going to mind
Now I’ve got to leave you, brother
So this round’s mine
Here’s looking at you, anyhow
You can go on and have another
They won’t call time
I’m going to say my goodbyes now


The key for understanding seems to be somewhere in these lines. Who are they? Where does the scenery take place? A bar? A Hotel?
And the word "brother" is strange to me in case it would be a story of love, or just about a couple?
Are the two narrators separated by miles and everyone sings to the other one so to say, or are they meeting in this place, a short meeting after long times of being separated and have to leave again soon? I first and until now strongest first impression is another variation of "Beyond My Wildest Dreams", a trucker, meeting his wife for one night at a crossroads?

LE
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: surferboy on March 07, 2015, 08:15:15 AM
Are the two narrators separated by miles and everyone sings to the other one

LE that's a wonderful idea to approach this song!
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: shangri la 1 on March 07, 2015, 10:58:48 AM
PM me if you wish  ;) to see another interpretation of this track.  :-\
 
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: pete_w on March 11, 2015, 11:23:49 AM
This tune reminds me quite a bit of Guy's Inamorata, especially Mark's playing:

 25p-jbeNDc8
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Dutchessy on March 11, 2015, 11:41:39 AM
This tune reminds me quite a bit of Guy's Inamorata, especially Mark's playing:

 25p-jbeNDc8

Yep, i said the same in an other topic before. So you are not the only one who thinks it's a bit equal  ;)
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: pete_w on March 11, 2015, 12:27:08 PM
That's right. I think Guy's mark on this album will be quite obvious.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: schmonka on March 14, 2015, 09:18:09 AM
This track ticks many many boxes.....gorgeous melody......yummy guitar and Ruth's voice - could you have a more contemplative song?  Im not totally sold on the sax at this stage....but its a solid 8.5/10..... :lol
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Post by: Marikablue on March 16, 2015, 08:39:00 PM
This track ticks many many boxes.....gorgeous melody......yummy guitar and Ruth's voice - could you have a more contemplative song?  Im not totally sold on the sax at this stage....but its a solid 8.5/10..... :lol
I'm in love with this song......best track on the album.......it's nearly at the same level as my all time MK-solo favorite " Are We In Trouble Now "  ;)
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Post by: dustyvalentino on March 16, 2015, 09:55:37 PM
Cheesy 80s sax spoils this for me sounds like smooth jazz or something.
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Post by: LoveExpresso on March 16, 2015, 09:56:57 PM
Exactly. Skipper for me. Never heard it since the album is out.

LE
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Post by: ingridswing on March 16, 2015, 11:21:24 PM
And for me it's endless on repeat  :) I love you all guys, we agree or disagree about songs, but we (almost) all fell in love with  this album
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Post by: richardmu on March 16, 2015, 11:24:30 PM
skipper for me. Its nice but the lyrics are only a tiny part, not much of them either. The sax sounds ridiculous. Someone mentioned guitar solo is as good as AWITN...... I can't hear it. AWITN is one of his greatest ever solos with a perfect start and finish. The solo in this song is not really anything, just thrown together.
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Post by: Marikablue on March 16, 2015, 11:31:50 PM
skipper for me. Its nice but the lyrics are only a tiny part, not much of them either. The sax sounds ridiculous. Someone mentioned guitar solo is as good as AWITN...... I can't hear it. AWITN is one of his greatest ever solos with a perfect start and finish. The solo in this song is not really anything, just thrown together.
No solo at all can beat the mournfully AWITN solo  :)
It's my dream to be able to hear AWITN played live someday.........
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Post by: Marikablue on March 16, 2015, 11:40:37 PM

And for me it's endless on repeat  :) I love you all guys, we agree or disagree about songs, but we (almost) all fell in love with  this album
Well said dear Ingrid  :clap
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Post by: dmg on March 17, 2015, 12:28:09 PM
skipper for me. Its nice but the lyrics are only a tiny part, not much of them either. The sax sounds ridiculous. Someone mentioned guitar solo is as good as AWITN...... I can't hear it. AWITN is one of his greatest ever solos with a perfect start and finish. The solo in this song is not really anything, just thrown together.

Totally agree.  Solo as good as AWITN!  There's a solo?
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Post by: nababo on March 24, 2015, 10:02:36 PM
First time I've listened to this song, I thought it was a littel too slow. I still think that it is indeed slow, but that's ok, is how it works.

As many of you, I also hear similarities with the songs some of you have mentioned. But for me it was especially funny and strange to see the mention to David Knopfler in this thread. It's because everytime Mark uses a sax on some song, I imediatelly think about his brother, and for me Wherever I Go could easily be a DK effort...
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Post by: foma on March 25, 2015, 09:29:32 PM
So you can check all the submissions now on Talenthouse website. Can't find anything worth 4000$ now, poor Mark.

https://www.talenthouse.com/i/create-a-music-video-for-mark-knopfler-and-virgin-emi/submissions/popular
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Post by: foma on March 25, 2015, 09:38:15 PM
I like that one: https://www.talenthouse.com/i/587/submission/152405/a0bc3163
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Post by: LoveExpresso on March 26, 2015, 10:03:05 AM
Last night I listened to this track (seldom enough) and it struck me what I don't like about it: The fact that it is a duet. The first lines by Mark are sung so great, I am sure I would love this song if Mark would sing it completely alone. Then the Sax is coming in too early... and who needs a sax solo anyway..
River Towns shows what great things are possible with this instrument, but this cheesy 80's solo - not for me, sorry.

LE
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Post by: superval99 on March 26, 2015, 10:09:27 AM
I really like this song, even though it's a bit slow, but the thing that spoils it for me is the overloud percussion in my ear!   There are one or two parts when it stops and then it's sheer heaven!  ::)
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Post by: ingridswing on March 26, 2015, 10:19:46 AM
And tastes are different, always nice, otherwise there's nothing to discuss. I like this song very much, I love the way their voices fit together. I am with Superval that the percussion is a little overdone
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Post by: dmg on March 26, 2015, 02:55:29 PM
Can't like this one at all.  The lyrics are a load of centemental, mushy, cliche-ridden tripe more worthy of a boy-band than Mark Knopfler.  His songs used to have so much depth to them and clever lyrics but this is just self indulgent rubbish.  Same goes for LCG.
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Post by: ingridswing on March 26, 2015, 03:30:07 PM
Love is part of his life DMG. That's not rubbish, that's why he is happy. And I think that's the main reason we still get beautiful songs/albums/tours.
If he wasn't happy he couldn't write like this. You are not romantic at all I understand, but I am happy that he is happy with Kitty. And I am happy he shares it with us through his songs and lyrics!
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Post by: Knopflerfan on March 26, 2015, 03:38:55 PM
I really can't believe anyone 'rubbishing' any of the new album to be honest..... :hmm
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Post by: superval99 on March 26, 2015, 03:50:01 PM
Can't like this one at all.  The lyrics are a load of centemental, mushy, cliche-ridden tripe more worthy of a boy-band than Mark Knopfler.  His songs used to have so much depth to them and clever lyrics but this is just self indulgent rubbish.  Same goes for LCG.

Of course it's sentimental, dmg.  MK is a very sentimental person and that's what I love about him these days!  Oh, and his songs still have a lot of depth as you can hear on this album!  :)   I love Long Cool Girl too, I just let it wash all over me!   ;)
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Post by: dmg on March 26, 2015, 06:57:52 PM
Love is part of his life DMG. That's not rubbish, that's why he is happy. And I think that's the main reason we still get beautiful songs/albums/tours.
If he wasn't happy he couldn't write like this. You are not romantic at all I understand, but I am happy that he is happy with Kitty. And I am happy he shares it with us through his songs and lyrics!

Well, it's very clear that his best songwriting was in the late 70s/early 80s.  A while before he met Kitty and settled down.  I'm not really interested in his private life, that is as it says - private.  For him to share it is a little self-indulgent I think.  Different with a song like Basil as it isn't so personal and has some sort of meaning/interest.  Difficult to believe The same person who wrote Basil also wrote this same mushy Mills and Boon reject.
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Post by: ingridswing on March 26, 2015, 07:27:15 PM
As said on Facebook you are achting very arrogant. you know what is best or what not, and pay no respect to others. It is not clear that late '70s early '80s is his best songwriting. YOU like it best, OTHERS think different. You have to respect that. You are not god, so you don't know what is best or not. You just have a certain taste of music, just like every other human being. Not more not less.
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Post by: Justme on March 26, 2015, 07:37:57 PM
To me it's a different era and style. I like both. He made projects that I didn't like, i.e. don't get me started on EH....But all in all he did evolve as an artist. Sometimes, I miss some serious guitar noodling as well, in these times he is inclined to say more with less notes - and that in an elegant and sophisticated way. There is no showing off, standing on hilltops with sparkling geetarz and striking a pose. As long as this music inspires and touches me in some way, I'm going to listen to his songs.
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Post by: ingridswing on March 26, 2015, 07:40:05 PM
To me it's a different era and style. I like both. He made projects that I didn't like, i.e. don't get me started on EH....But all in all he did evolve as an artist. Sometimes, I miss some serious guitar noodling as well, in these times he is inclined to say more with less notes - and that in an elegant and sophisticated way. There is no showing off, standing on hilltops with sparkling geetarz and striking a pose. As long as this music inspires and touches me in some way, I'm going to listen to his songs.
+1000
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Post by: superval99 on March 26, 2015, 07:47:17 PM
Love is part of his life DMG. That's not rubbish, that's why he is happy. And I think that's the main reason we still get beautiful songs/albums/tours.
If he wasn't happy he couldn't write like this. You are not romantic at all I understand, but I am happy that he is happy with Kitty. And I am happy he shares it with us through his songs and lyrics!
I'm not really interested in his private life, that is as it says - private.  For him to share it is a little self-indulgent I think. 

Not self-indulgent at all!   How do you think some of the best love songs in the world came about?  From real life experiences of the heart!  I'm glad he can express his personal feelings in a song.  It makes him much more human somehow. 
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Post by: Dutchessy on March 26, 2015, 08:19:38 PM
As said on Facebook you are achting very arrogant. you know what is best or what not, and pay no respect to others. It is not clear that late '70s early '80s is his best songwriting. YOU like it best, OTHERS think different. You have to respect that. You are not god, so you don't know what is best or not. You just have a certain taste of music, just like every other human being. Not more not less.

"Anyone else, sensing that there is a lot of love and warmness on AMIT at the moment. Has MK touched you more with this record than any of his previous gems?"

http://amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=4235.0 (http://amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=4235.0)


 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: ingridswing on March 26, 2015, 08:25:01 PM
I know Dutchessy, but this time I am sick of the negativity. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. But everyone has an opinion which is not the same as the truth. I am the most liberal person in the world as you know, but sometimes things have to be said.
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Post by: LoveExpresso on March 26, 2015, 08:32:27 PM
Obviously it is clear to everyone that this song is about Mark and Kitty, therefore private or "self-indulgent"? I can't see any personal key or touch in it, I mean personal touch from his very own life - it is just general valid stuff about missing the beloved one etc.. so it is a romantic thing. For example, in Silver Eagle and Taormina the Dylan thing is pretty obvious, whereas this could be any other couple. In fact, it could also be a gay male couple ("brother")  ;)

About the other thing cooking here, I wish we would not start to get angry about a love song. I don't know what happened on Facebook, but I witnessed a very tough emotional day following the news today and it is really not worth it fighting about Mark in times when he should be happy about a new album.

Especially as two of the very well-known, reputated and personal friends (of mine) start to get angry!

 :wave

LE
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Post by: Dutchessy on March 26, 2015, 08:35:49 PM
Obviously it is clear to everyone that this song is about Mark and Kitty, therefore private or "self-indulgent"? I can't see any personal key or touch in it, I mean personal touch from his very own life - it is just general valid stuff about missing the beloved one etc.. so it is a romantic thing. For example, in Silver Eagle and Taormina the Dylan thing is pretty obvious, whereas this could be any other couple. In fact, it could also be a gay male couple ("brother")  ;)

About the other thing cooking here, I wish we would not start to get angry about a love song. I don't know what happened on Facebook, but I witnessed a very tough emotional day following the news today and it is really not worth it fighting about Mark in times when he should be happy about a new album.

Especially as two of the very well-known, reputated and personal friends (of mine) start to get angry!

 :wave

LE

Thank you LE  :thumbsup Well said.  :clap
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Post by: ingridswing on March 26, 2015, 08:47:54 PM
I am not angry folks, just a bit tired of negativity and I want some more nuance in the Posts. Not this IS good or bad. It's all about opinions. Not more not less. I really hope DMG got the message like this and we will have a good beer in May together again. The news is negative and sad enough today indeed. Maybe that's why I can't have some more. I feel really shocked by the awful messages about the planecrash.
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Post by: Knopflerfan on March 26, 2015, 08:53:27 PM
I really can't believe people arguing over a love song, I mean come on get a grip espeically as there is other things more important going on in the world :hmm

dmg, surely it has to be each to their own with regards songs and genres etc but why do you feel the need to TELL everyone what is right and wrong? I'm seriously not following. :disbelief

As for the 'dire straits' years - yes, sure we all enjoyed them but hey - move on!

And to get angry with fellow AMITers who come on here in good faith to talk about 'the master' it seriously will not do...
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Post by: Knopflerfan on March 26, 2015, 08:56:13 PM
I am not angry folks, just a bit tired of negativity and I want some more nuance in the Posts. Not this IS good or bad. It's all about opinions. Not more not less. I really hope DMG got the message like this and we will have a good beer in May together again. The news is negative and sad enough today indeed. Maybe that's why I can't have some more. I feel really shocked by the awful messages about the planecrash.

What a shame 'negativity' get's bought onto this fantastic forum, sure we are gonna get it from time to time but you'd think we would be in some kind of unison when it come's to MK?
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Post by: Lis on March 27, 2015, 05:38:48 AM
This song is in the provisional setlist...
Do you think reahearsels has already started or is it just on the list of songs MK has choosen to play during rehearseltime??

Where to find that list?
Guy confirmed this  (only this song) on his forum. The list...... i wish i had that one.......  :lol
I didn't see the forum for his post, but as far as I know, Guy does not like to discuss setlists, right?  I am surprised that he would confirm any setlist - even a provisional one.  Did I miss something?  :hmm
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Post by: dustyvalentino on March 27, 2015, 07:27:30 AM
Why are people picking on DMG for expressing his opinion? He's not being arrogant IMO, he's just giving HIS views on MK's music, as he should be free to do on this site.
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Post by: shangri la 1 on March 27, 2015, 08:55:10 AM
Mark's musical progression and the inspiration behind his life's musical Journey are expressed in this Tracker record. IMHO it is the closest we have ever been with a bunch of songs to the heart and soul of the creator of them.

Emotions have been stirred; at all different levels here (which is what AMIT is all about) and parts of the record are still revealing themselves to many of us. We need to step back, to allow others to express their views on how this piece of art has impacted them. No one is right & no one is wrong. Just be happy that we have this gem of a place to visit and be gentle with each-others feelings. From what I have gleaned about the bloke who is the inspiration for this place it is probably the way that he’d want us to approach it.

SL1
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Post by: Knopflerfan on March 27, 2015, 08:57:53 AM
Why are people picking on DMG for expressing his opinion? He's not being arrogant IMO, he's just giving HIS views on MK's music, as he should be free to do on this site.

I'm not sure we are 'Picking' on dmg, Dusty in fact I would like to think far from it...

We are well aware of dmg's views on MK's music at the moment, but that's fine and I respect him for that - 'each to their own and all that'
But please just don't ruin it for those who are indeed enjoying this fantastic album by continually putting a damper on things!!!
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Post by: yontwocrows on March 27, 2015, 09:15:50 AM
I didn't see the forum for his post, but as far as I know, Guy does not like to discuss setlists, right?  I am surprised that he would confirm any setlist - even a provisional one.  Did I miss something?  :hmm
Guy did not only confirm that it is in the provisional setlist, he revealed deliberately - without the fans asking about it - in his forum that "Wherever I go" and "TOTT" are in the provisional setlist.
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Post by: surferboy on March 27, 2015, 09:39:07 AM
Obviously it is clear to everyone that this song is about Mark and Kitty

In the interview with "derwesten" from March 13th MK said it is about his best friend Nigel, whom he knew since he was nine years old.
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Post by: superval99 on March 27, 2015, 09:53:22 AM
Obviously it is clear to everyone that this song is about Mark and Kitty

In the interview with "derwesten" from March 13th MK said it is about his best friend Nigel, whom he knew since he was nine years old.

Yes.  In the 24 min video he said it was a song about friendships that can carry on where they left off, even if a lot of time had elapsed since the last contact.  I had a school friend like that too.  :)
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Post by: Lis on March 27, 2015, 03:47:57 PM
I didn't see the forum for his post, but as far as I know, Guy does not like to discuss setlists, right?  I am surprised that he would confirm any setlist - even a provisional one.  Did I miss something?  :hmm
Guy did not only confirm that it is in the provisional setlist, he revealed deliberately - without the fans asking about it - in his forum that "Wherever I go" and "TOTT" are in the provisional setlist.
Thanks for clarifying, yontwocrows!
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Post by: Simon on March 27, 2015, 04:01:53 PM
Piper to the End - similarities especially the outro.
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Post by: chris on April 04, 2015, 12:15:15 AM
Deeply impressed of that song.

For me this is a love song full of tenderness and magic as well as romanticism and yearning. Do you know the feeling when silk is softly touching your skin? To me it's the same with this song to my soul.

To compare it with „Are We In Trouble Now“ is not that wrong. MK created the same intimate atmosphere in „Wherever I Go“. IMO this one is simlpy a masterpiece. It has everything, a good song needs, it speaks to all your senses: You read the words (cognitive), you listen to the tunes (emotions)  and the dialog between the sax and the wonderful Gibson gives you the opportunity to let your fantasy find out, how this lovestory might go on... with laughter? tears? doubts? hope? -  sadness or happy end? It's all up to the listener, what she/he makes out of the song. MK gives you a pattern and you can spin the thread. That's great and once again a proof, that MK is a good psychologist.

And it's a gift: MK opens a small window and shows the world the colourful and deep emotions he has inside, with the risk that people call that song boring, mediocre and things like that. One must have a strong character not to fall in despair when people don't understand what you want to tell them.

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Post by: Marikablue on April 04, 2015, 12:52:25 AM
Deeply impressed of that song.

For me this is a love song full of tenderness and magic as well as romanticism and yearning :think Do you know the feeling when silk is softly touching your skin? To me it's the same with this song to my soul.

To compare it with „Are We In Trouble Now“ is not that wrong. MK created the same intimate atmosphere in „Wherever I Go“. IMO this one is simlpy a masterpiece. It has everything, a good song needs, it speaks to all your senses: You read the words (cognitive), you listen to the tunes (emotions)  and the dialog between the sax and the wonderful Gibson gives you the opportunity to let your fantasy find out, how this lovestory might go on... with laughter? tears? doubts? hope? -  sadness or happy end? It's all up to the listener, what she/he makes out of the song. MK gives you a pattern and you can spin the thread. That's great and once again a proof, that MK is a good psychologist.

And it's gift: MK opens a small window and shows the world the colourful and deep emotions he has inside, with the risk that people call that song boring, mediocre and things like that. One must have a strong character not to fall in despair when people don't understand what you want to tell them.
Fantastic review about this masterpiece. I'm completely agree all the way. As I said earlier, for me it's the best track on the album. Love all what you mentioned here. Are We In Trouble Now and If This Is Goodbye is among the best songs ever made by Mark. But this song is so beautiful too. Thanks for your words here  :wave
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Post by: Jarle on April 05, 2015, 06:50:42 PM
Obviously it is clear to everyone that this song is about Mark and Kitty, therefore private or "self-indulgent"? I can't see any personal key or touch in it, I mean personal touch from his very own life - it is just general valid stuff about missing the beloved one etc.. so it is a romantic thing. For example, in Silver Eagle and Taormina the Dylan thing is pretty obvious, whereas this could be any other couple. In fact, it could also be a gay male couple ("brother")  ;)

About the other thing cooking here, I wish we would not start to get angry about a love song. I don't know what happened on Facebook, but I witnessed a very tough emotional day following the news today and it is really not worth it fighting about Mark in times when he should be happy about a new album.

Especially as two of the very well-known, reputated and personal friends (of mine) start to get angry!

 :wave

LE

True. I don't think Wherever I Go is about Mark and Kitty. It is more generic. It is about friendship in general. Mark talks about it in the track-by-track...
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Post by: Shai on April 06, 2015, 04:38:01 AM
I am in total agreement with Marikblue! IMHO, this song needs to be the last song of the concerts, with Mark in the spotlight, by himself, and then another spotlight on the sax parts! I can't wait to see how MK adds guitar solos to this song, which I think can be the type of closer that Piper and Shangri-La were.....seeming to never end!!

And what's so bad with '80s saxophone? The music from the 2000's has been crap as far as I am concerned, while the '80s saw Making Movies, Love over Gold and of course BIA!
Don't you remember how awesome the sax intro to Your Latest Trick was? Chris White and MK at the Mandela Concert performing what I think is the GREATEST live performance of SOS! So to me the sax has a big part in Mark's past, so why not now?

I have decided since 1982 (although I loved DS from '77) to follow Mark's career and for him to take me along on this amazing journey, "Wherever I go" and he goes as well.

Saul
 
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Post by: dustyvalentino on April 06, 2015, 09:09:30 AM
The sax just sounds out of place. The rest of the track doesn't sound like an 80s throwback, so why should the sax?
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Post by: Marikablue on April 06, 2015, 11:52:39 AM
Sometimes I think that MK should use his electric guitars more on the studio versions. I missed that on songs like Border Reiver, Piper To The End, Yon Two Crows and Kingdom Of Gold. Tracks like these is much better played live because of more guitar sound

I can also mention songs were the use of flute instead of guitar on the live versions nearly destroyed them. Songs like that could be What It Is and Wye Aye Man. There is a lot of great guitar sound on Tracker. And yes. I would have been very happy if also the first instrumental break on Wherever I Go was a Gibson solo  8)

P.S : What It Is album version is my all time favorite in MK's solo career  ;)
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Post by: foma on April 08, 2015, 09:12:48 PM
The winning video was announced today. You can watch it here: https://www.talenthouse.com/i/587/submission/152472/77f0f4ac

Waiting it to appear on Mark's channel. No surprises — Mark selected an artist from Britain. What else you could expect?????????
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Post by: foma on April 08, 2015, 11:29:52 PM
As expected, the guy with best camera won a competition. When it comes to visual arts, the quality comes first.
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Post by: nababo on April 09, 2015, 12:20:06 AM
As expected, the guy with best camera won a competition. When it comes to visual arts, the quality comes first.

Yep, IMHO there were better alternatives, full of emotions and imagery. I wonder if MK took part on this decision or just let other to do the work. I guess, did he watch at least some of the videos?
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Post by: geordie_60 on April 09, 2015, 12:23:13 AM
As expected, the guy with best camera won a competition. When it comes to visual arts, the quality comes first.

No disrespect but the most important thing is the photographer not the camera. Anyone can buy a great camera or car etc but this doesnt mean they know how to get the best out of it. Regards.
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Post by: foma on April 09, 2015, 01:03:16 AM
I remember Guy's competition for ‘Inamorata’ solo and from all submissions the winner was just a guy who recorded it better than others.
It's funny because prize was a cheap Squier guitar with Mark's signature on it, and the winner used a very pricy mic and a Taylor guitar.

It makes me think that all competitions are basically is just a complete bull**** and genuine waste of time both for an artist and a ‘brand new’ artist.
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Post by: yontwocrows on April 09, 2015, 12:20:03 PM
I'm glad that i have not been a part of the jury. It was impossible for me to watch all the videos. I must be in a certain mood to like this special song, and now i'm certainly not in such a bluesy mood. So it's really hard to listen to the song over and over and to see so many mediocre videos. Who of you has seen all vids?
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: foma on April 09, 2015, 01:11:12 PM
I'm glad that i have not been a part of the jury. It was impossible for me to watch all the videos. I must be in a certain mood to like this special song, and now i'm certainly not in such a bluesy mood. So it's really hard to listen to the song over and over and to see so many mediocre videos. Who of you has seen all vids?

I did it, there was not so many videos with a good picture quality and story at the same time, but the winner didn't made something special.

He stated in the description 'Friday shot, saturday edit, sunday edit, monday upload'.

Great Mark, next time give us not a great Tracker CD, just make something in couple of days from the top of your head and that's it!
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: wespresso on April 09, 2015, 01:35:33 PM
I just watched the winning video..and meh I've seen better video's
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: ingridswing on April 09, 2015, 03:24:10 PM
Where can I find the other video's?
Only saw the one from our own Shangri-La which caught the story of the song much better imo. Don't know if he sent it to this contest
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Throttle on April 09, 2015, 04:48:31 PM
Where can I find the other video's?

Here they are:  https://www.talenthouse.com/i/create-a-music-video-for-mark-knopfler-and-virgin-emi/submissions/popular
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: ingridswing on April 09, 2015, 04:51:54 PM
Thanks  :thumbsup
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: yontwocrows on April 09, 2015, 09:47:50 PM
I'm glad that i have not been a part of the jury. It was impossible for me to watch all the videos. I must be in a certain mood to like this special song, and now i'm certainly not in such a bluesy mood. So it's really hard to listen to the song over and over and to see so many mediocre videos. Who of you has seen all vids?

I did it, there was not so many videos with a good picture quality and story at the same time, but the winner didn't made something special.

He stated in the description 'Friday shot, saturday edit, sunday edit, monday upload'.

Great Mark, next time give us not a great Tracker CD, just make something in couple of days from the top of your head and that's it!
Me deepest respect, Mr foma. This was really a hard task. I've watched also the vid that was a favourite of yours, which i liked better than the winning vid, but i think it's not easy to make an interesting video to this slow title. Oklahoma Ponies would be easier  ;)
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: foma on April 09, 2015, 11:03:02 PM
Haha, yes, or Beryl. Best example of recent music video to me is Paul McCartney' new song 'New' from New album (just want to be able to say that).

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkbbP0ozyMs

It share some similarities with Beryl also. It's short, it's upbeat, it's catchy, it's in old style, it was played live in promo shows.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: foma on April 13, 2015, 10:48:11 AM
By the way, is that correct English grammar? Matthias's? :smack
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Rail King on April 14, 2015, 02:29:26 PM
The winning video was announced today. You can watch it here: https://www.talenthouse.com/i/587/submission/152472/77f0f4ac

Waiting it to appear on Mark's channel. No surprises — Mark selected an artist from Britain. What else you could expect?????????

This whole video competition just became much more interesting to me when I came upon what Mark had to say about videos in this 1992 interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DBN4_g4QCeY#t=310

MK: "I still can't get interested in videos. Any video by anybody for about anything."
Q: "You don't find them useful in any way?"
MK: "No."
Q: "Would you rather be without Dire Straits videos?"
MK: "Yep. I'd rather be in a world with no videos in it. Would be great!"
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: K-alberto on April 14, 2015, 09:45:45 PM
Anyway, even if I don't really like the winning video (I don't like any of the videos I've seen in competition), I think it is ... coherent, compatible, with many Mark Knopfler videos, for the mood, colors etc. Just think of Your Own Sweet Way, or Feel Like Going Home of the Hillbillies... I feel the same mood, so... it's just a pity we don't see Mark and Ruth playing!!  :-\
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: Throttle on April 15, 2015, 02:46:30 AM
As concerns the video.
Actually, the camerawork deserves the highest possible praise, seriously. I liked the visual imagery, gloomy and unsmooth.
In addition, the lack of any female characters also sets it apart from other video clips, most of which were drowned in a treacle of sentimentality.
I repent, I've watched not all but just a few videos, until I've reached my endurance limit.  :)
In general, I figure, there is something in what we could see.
That's not a masterpiece though, not even close.
And honestly, I wouldn't like to ponder the question what prompted them to announce such an awkward competition.
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: shangri la 1 on April 15, 2015, 08:23:30 AM
The AMIT video of this one is finished now. I went back and replaced the concert footage after I had completed the concept for the Silver Eagle video, that I'm working on.
So Beryl, TOTT, Long Cool Girl and this one are pretty much final cuts now.  :think
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: sweetsurrender on April 15, 2015, 03:21:31 PM
The AMIT video of this one is finished now. I went back and replaced the concert footage after I had completed the concept for the Silver Eagle video, that I'm working on.
So Beryl, TOTT, Long Cool Girl and this one are pretty much final cuts now.  :think

SL,  will you give us the link to the videos?


Thank youuuuu.

Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: shangri la 1 on April 15, 2015, 11:31:35 PM
 :thumbsup :clap
Hi Sweetsurrender. Check your PM ;)

Thanks again, for your videos which we put together with "Hide's" enhanced audio for our Knopfler's Kingdom DVD.
It is our most popular video on AMIT TV with 288,416 views!  :clap

Our aim on AMIT TV has gone from documenting the musical track of MK, to trying to promote his genius to the newer generations who have been raised during the "digital age" era.
It's a very competitive business, the music promotion business, and we will (whilst the record companies leave us alone) do all we can to spread the message to a wider audience.  :)

Cheers
SL1
Title: Re: (11) Wherever I Go (feat Ruth Moody) (6:24)
Post by: sweetsurrender on April 17, 2015, 06:50:26 AM
:thumbsup :clap
Hi Sweetsurrender. Check your PM ;)

Thanks again, for your videos which we put together with "Hide's" enhanced audio for our Knopfler's Kingdom DVD.
It is our most popular video on AMIT TV with 288,416 views!  :clap

Our aim on AMIT TV has gone from documenting the musical track of MK, to trying to promote his genius to the newer generations who have been raised during the "digital age" era.
It's a very competitive business, the music promotion business, and we will (whilst the record companies leave us alone) do all we can to spread the message to a wider audience.  :)

Cheers
SL1

You're welcome ! Glad that kingdom of gold video was a hit ! Too bad the quality of the recording was poor :(