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Title: (1) Laughs and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes (6:39)
Post by: shangri la 1 on February 22, 2015, 01:21:19 am
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Laughs and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes


LYRICS
Laughs and jokes
And drinks and smokes
And no lights on the stairs
We were young, so young
And always broke
Not that we ever cared
Not that we ever cared

Well, the holes in the walls
Were such a lot
Welcome to London town
But when you’re new to it all
And you think you’re hot
You’re not planning on hanging around
People would go on their different ways
I left to start a band
A note came through the letter box
In your childlike hand

Oh, laughs and jokes
And drinks and smokes
And no lights on the stairs
We were young, so young
And always broke
Not that we ever cared
Not that we ever cared

One day I rode to where you were
The doorbell jangled a note
They buzzed me in
I climbed the stairs
In my boots and leather coat
There’s an old brass
Standing there at the top
Without her witch’s broom
It almost seemed like a knocking shop
When the girls came out of their rooms

And they all stood around
And stared at me
Two brunettes and a blonde
Then the old brass shrugged and said
We don’t know where she’s gone
Later on I picked up the ball
And I took off down the line
I suppose by then I’d realised
You’d run into hard times

Oh, laughs and jokes
And drinks and smokes
And no lights on the stairs
We were young, so young
And always broke
Not that we ever cared
Not that we ever cared

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Post by: border_reiver on March 11, 2015, 11:22:42 pm
I hear a small part of "Lily of the west".
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Post by: LoveExpresso on March 11, 2015, 11:28:03 pm
Exactly!

LE
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Post by: Dutchessy on March 11, 2015, 11:31:48 pm
I hear a small part of "Lily of the west".

Yes, and Kingdom of Gold / Border Reiver parts
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Post by: dmg on March 12, 2015, 12:14:52 am
This is a great song.  Maybe my favourite, along with Basil.  Play-out is fantastic.  This will be very nice if done live.
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Post by: Ar (aka Enlight) on March 12, 2015, 01:59:06 am
It brought me a kind of " secondary waltz" feeling :think
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Post by: Dutchessy on March 12, 2015, 07:53:12 am
It brought me a kind of " secondary waltz" feeling :think

Much better than SW!
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Post by: jbaent on March 12, 2015, 09:16:43 am
Funny, because for me it has some of "Border Reiver" and neither of the songs you mentioned...

I think this would be a great opener if MK wants...

It´s genius, that jazz opening, and then when the folk part comes, the bass and drums keep playing the jazz, so it´s mixed all along the track, wow!!!!
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Post by: border_reiver on March 12, 2015, 10:34:39 am
Agreed! It should make a nice opener thanks to the intro where MK can come out lastly, as always.
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Post by: foma on March 12, 2015, 11:46:11 am
Laughs and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes just added in my Tracker Chord Songbook: http://amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=4152.0
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Post by: yontwocrows on March 12, 2015, 12:53:39 pm
Man, you're fast!
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Post by: dmg on March 12, 2015, 01:14:58 pm

It´s genius, that jazz opening, and then when the folk part comes, the bass and drums keep playing the jazz, so it´s mixed all along the track, wow!!!!

Yeah, it fools you into thinking you have a jazz number but then all of a sudden...  Like two for one!
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Post by: Nick14 on March 12, 2015, 01:26:48 pm
Really liked this on first listen - a bit different from Mark and blending jazz and folk - really worked. Good stuff.
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Post by: Lestroid on March 12, 2015, 02:32:54 pm
I like the blend of folk music with the jazzy drums and guitar.  The folk melody sounds very melancholy and wistful, in contrast to the drums and guitar which is very upbeat.  To me the folk melody represents Mark's life and friends in Newcastle while the drums represent his new life in London where he is focused on achieving his dreams.  The song starts off very upbeat, but then takes a sad turn when he learns that his friend (old lover?) has hit hard times.  But the jazzy beat keeps moving along, with the wistful folk melody in the background.  Kind of like his life must have been moving on at the time.  As with so many of MK's songs, you have to pay attention to the music to fully understand the lyrics.
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Post by: vgonis on March 12, 2015, 03:26:57 pm
The intro reminded me of a slowed down Water of love. Nice one.
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Post by: Ar (aka Enlight) on March 12, 2015, 03:29:53 pm
It brought me a kind of " secondary waltz" feeling :think

Much better than SW!


i agree , but the fist time i heard it let me hummm a part of Sec.Waltz and to be honest it still does , cant tell exactly why , if it is in the rhythm or Mark's melodically voice.
To be really honest i have it with more songs on this album that sounds a bit familiar to previous songs , and not in a " hey its Mark's sound" kind of way.
But lucky as i am , i don't bother :lol

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Post by: Ar (aka Enlight) on March 12, 2015, 03:37:48 pm
Funny, because for me it has some of "Border Reiver" and neither of the songs you mentioned...

I think this would be a great opener if MK wants...

It´s genius, that jazz opening, and then when the folk part comes, the bass and drums keep playing the jazz, so it´s mixed all along the track, wow!!!!

jbaent, about your first phrase,  i guess that's the way he world goes round so may people and so many different views , that's what makes us individuals so special.
But as it comes to a 3/4 count , its a waltz for me much to quick :smack

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Post by: Ar (aka Enlight) on March 12, 2015, 03:42:15 pm
The intro reminded me of a slowed down Water of love. Nice one.


you are not mistaken with the drum and the slide guitar during intro  "Lights of Taormina" ? :think

Do i have the right topic banners on my screen ??? :hmm
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Post by: surferboy on March 12, 2015, 03:52:06 pm
Does anybody have an idea about the meaning of the searching for the lost girl in this song?
Besides the "laughs and jokes" and being young aspect there seems to be another dimension with this girl throughout the whole song and in all the media reviews with regard to this song MK hasn't mentioned that aspect which makes me wonder even more.
Why is he combining the "not that we ever cared" verses with the search that shows caring?
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Post by: vgonis on March 12, 2015, 03:55:56 pm
The intro reminded me of a slowed down Water of love. Nice one.


you are not mistaken with the drum and the slide guitar during intro  "Lights of Taormina" ? :think

Do i have the right topic banners on my screen ??? :hmm


Absolutely right! Listening to wrong song!
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Post by: Ar (aka Enlight) on March 12, 2015, 04:03:20 pm
The intro reminded me of a slowed down Water of love. Nice one.


you are not mistaken with the drum and the slide guitar during intro  "Lights of Taormina" ? :think

Do i have the right topic banners on my screen ??? :hmm


Absolutely right! Listening to wrong song!

 It was obviously
LOL , :thumbsup
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Post by: Shai on March 12, 2015, 08:28:59 pm
Oh boy! I found the entire album on YT, but the speed was off, but I wasn't aware of it! I played LAJADAS twice thinking that Mark was half asleep and that this album was horrible.....but then I adjusted the speed and WOW!! Now that sounds more like it!
Can't wait till the Beacon x 2!!

Saul
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Post by: dmg on March 12, 2015, 08:47:10 pm
Oh boy! I found the entire album on YT, but the speed was off, but I wasn't aware of it! I played LAJADAS twice thinking that Mark was half asleep and that this album was horrible.....but then I adjusted the speed and WOW!! Now that sounds more like it!
Can't wait till the Beacon x 2!!

Saul

If you go to settings on YT you can adjust it to get it correct speed.
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Post by: holaknopfler on March 12, 2015, 08:56:36 pm
It's a one take guy says! Quite impressive if you count how many instruments you here
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Post by: Shai on March 13, 2015, 03:18:07 am

>If you go to settings on YT you can adjust it to get it correct speed.

I saw that dmg, but I wasn't sure what the correct speed is.

Also, Beryl and Wherever I go appear to be much slower than on the singles.

Saul



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Post by: Silvertown on March 13, 2015, 07:53:58 pm
I have listened the album two times now and I think that this is a great one! However, this album feels that you really have to listen to songs. Partly because of slow pace and pauses and not solid 4/4 drums :)
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Post by: Silvertown on March 14, 2015, 09:30:18 am
Don´t you like this one? I think that this could be an opener too.
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Post by: Knopflerfan on March 14, 2015, 01:29:22 pm
Beautiful track... A much more Rocky 'Secondary Waltz' to me..
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Post by: superval99 on March 14, 2015, 01:57:18 pm
This song is vaguely reminiscent of "All the Roadrunning" and I love the jazzy "Take Five" rhythm which runs through the song.   :)
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Post by: Knopflerfan on March 14, 2015, 04:55:10 pm
Makes me smile when the rest of the band join in the chorus in a very 'sea shanty' style!! Keep thinking of MK pressing the light switch and having seconds to get in his door!! (MK mentions this on the dvd!)
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Post by: border_reiver on March 17, 2015, 03:38:18 pm
This fantastic track makes me wanna sing along every time. I have have a hard time suppressing my urge to do so around the office  ;D
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Post by: Knopflerfan on March 20, 2015, 09:16:21 pm
This just has to be the Concert opener each night! :clap
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Post by: Lestroid on March 20, 2015, 11:16:56 pm
This fantastic track makes me wanna sing along every time. I have have a hard time suppressing my urge to do so around the office  ;D

Makes me smile when the rest of the band join in the chorus in a very 'sea shanty' style!!

Mark mentions in the video that the decision to have the band join in the chorus came about because they were in the studio when he recorded it. Makes me wonder if it was a spontaneous thing that he liked and decided to keep? :think

And yes, I really hope it is a concert opener.  I can imagine the crowd joining in by the end of the song!
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Post by: LoveExpresso on March 21, 2015, 07:44:31 am
And the playing out of the song (when Mike starts his wood flute solo) is perfect for band introduction with little showing off from everyone.. there is a very small part of organ "solo", the bass is already there.. would be great to introduce the band with the first song as he did with Calling Elvis once...
and then, after that, another refrain and then next to Walk Of... ermm.. the next song..  :wave

LE
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Post by: pigster on March 21, 2015, 09:51:32 am
It is a good song but slightly nervous that when played live it will get the Marbletown treatment! I'm sure Ianto could make his twiddly drumming at the end of the track pad out for at least half an hour, watched in great detail by every band member smiling intensely and the audience just waiting for a new track!
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Post by: LoveExpresso on March 21, 2015, 10:49:41 am
In that case it would be ok with me if Marbletown was replaced by Laughs And Jokes.

LE
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Post by: superval99 on March 21, 2015, 11:03:16 am
In that case it would be ok with me if Marbletown was replaced by Laughs And Jokes.

LE

Fine by me!    8)
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Post by: Dutchessy on March 21, 2015, 11:11:05 am
In that case it would be ok with me if Marbletown was replaced by Laughs And Jokes.

LE

Maybe you should put this suggestion to Guy's forum  :lol
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Post by: goldenheart96 on March 22, 2015, 09:31:29 pm
This song must be my favourite so far because it's so personal. The melody seems to be recycled from other tracks (as is the case on ALL tracker songs) but I still like it. I'd rather see this one for an encore than an opener.
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Post by: dmg on March 22, 2015, 11:08:58 pm
In that case it would be ok with me if Marbletown was replaced by Laughs And Jokes.

LE

Fine by me!    8)

Eh?  I had to read this three times!  You been drinking Val?  ;)
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Post by: superval99 on March 23, 2015, 08:36:49 am
In that case it would be ok with me if Marbletown was replaced by Laughs And Jokes.

LE

Fine by me!    8)

Eh?  I had to read this three times!  You been drinking Val?  ;)

Yes, I thought that would surprise you!   :lol     I'm ready to move on now, because I think Marbletown has been played enough and there are other songs on the new album that could fill that niche - "Drinks & Smokes..."   perhaps - or even "Laughs & Jokes" !    ;D
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Post by: Marikablue on March 23, 2015, 03:35:23 pm
I think this lovely song, among the best on the album, would be a Perfect first song at the gigs  8)
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Post by: Rail King on March 24, 2015, 09:27:10 am
Does anybody know what the "no lights on the stairs" thing is about? I mean, come on young Mark, just have David, John or Pick change that light bulb, right?  ;D ???
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Post by: superval99 on March 24, 2015, 09:31:56 am
Does anybody know what the "no lights on the stairs" thing is about? I mean, come on young Mark, just have David, John or Pick change that light bulb, right?  ;D ???

MK explains all in the 24 min interview.   It's because there was a time delay switch at the bottom of the stairs, which gave about 15 seconds to get up the stairs and open the door of the room before the light went out again!    ;D
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Post by: jbaent on March 24, 2015, 01:09:18 pm
Does anybody know what the "no lights on the stairs" thing is about? I mean, come on young Mark, just have David, John or Pick change that light bulb, right?  ;D ???

MK explains all in the 24 min interview.   It's because there was a time delay switch at the bottom of the stairs, which gave about 15 seconds to get up the stairs and open the door of the room before the light went out again!    ;D

A pity there are no subtitles in the dvd, I didnt catch this joke...
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Post by: foma on March 24, 2015, 01:25:44 pm
Does anybody know what the "no lights on the stairs" thing is about? I mean, come on young Mark, just have David, John or Pick change that light bulb, right?  ;D ???

MK explains all in the 24 min interview.   It's because there was a time delay switch at the bottom of the stairs, which gave about 15 seconds to get up the stairs and open the door of the room before the light went out again!    ;D

A pity there are no subtitles in the dvd, I didnt catch this joke...

It's a pity what subtitles can be made for YouTube quite easily in many languages. I wrote to MK.com with no answer, I just wanted to make Russian subtitles. And I can make English as well, it's a matter of just couple of hours. Isn't this a very handy thing to make for fans? When management need, they answer 'Never write to me again', but with really useful stuff... it's just silence. Huh.
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Post by: Nick14 on March 24, 2015, 03:28:05 pm
This song gets better and better with every listen - emerging as one of his best - and to get a sense of its appeal, my 14 year old step daughter loves it too!
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Post by: nababo on March 24, 2015, 06:26:55 pm
In the quest of previously released songs that sound like the new ones, or vice-versa, I found LaJaDaS very similar to Loui's favorite, from Local Hero, and The new laird, from A Shot at Glory, mainly at the folk parts, of course.
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Post by: Simon on March 27, 2015, 03:53:26 pm
Border Reiver springs to mind on the opening lines.
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Post by: LoveExpresso on March 27, 2015, 09:00:47 pm
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..............

LE
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Post by: Knopflerfan on March 27, 2015, 09:08:36 pm
hahahaha!! Congrats on becoming a fellow 'Romeo' :clap
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Post by: LoveExpresso on March 27, 2015, 09:10:28 pm
Oh thanks, haven't noticed.

You know, I have been one some time ago... should be around 5000 posts or so now in "real life" but I had a little "timeout" so I started again with  post number 1...

LE
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Post by: yontwocrows on March 29, 2015, 12:38:13 pm
Does anybody have an idea about the meaning of the searching for the lost girl in this song?
Besides the "laughs and jokes" and being young aspect there seems to be another dimension with this girl throughout the whole song and in all the media reviews with regard to this song MK hasn't mentioned that aspect which makes me wonder even more.
Why is he combining the "not that we ever cared" verses with the search that shows caring?

I want to refresh this question of surferboy as it is til now not answered. I have the same problem. To whom is he refering? The first verse and the chorus is quite clear, but verse 2 and 3 are at least misterious.
1.) Is it really a girl who is not there (i have the feeling: yes)
2.) Is it his first love in London?
3.) Who is the old brass? - the mother of the girl? And the other three girls are sisters?
4.) Is the letter of the first verse a love letter by a girl that he left to come to London? And is he trying to come back to her?
5.) Don't understand how the verses "Later on I picked up the ball / And i took off down the line / I suppose by then I'd realised / You'd run into hard times" is linked with the context. I don't have the feeling to get the proper meaning.

I feel "lost in association". What are you thinking about these lines?
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Post by: LoveExpresso on March 29, 2015, 01:14:39 pm
"People would go on their different ways" is the key line for me -
and my take is that it is a girl from earlier days. She heard that he is in London also now, and wrote him a letter. She is also young, same as him, and lives in some kind of HOSTEL (edited) (for women), and the brass is the land lady, keeping an eye over her girls.. I have my knowledge from Ian McEwan novels, i guess Val knows more (EDIT about English daily life in the 70's) and  about these things.

 ;)

LE
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Post by: superval99 on March 29, 2015, 01:23:18 pm
"People would go on their different ways" is the key line for me -
and my take is that it is a girl from earlier days. She heard that he is in London also now, and wrote him a letter. She is also young, same as him, and lives in some kind of residental home (for women), and the brass is the land lady, keeping an eye over her girls.. I have my knowledge from Ian McEwan novels, i guess Val knows more about these things.

 ;)

LE

 ???    No, I'm afraid not, sorry!    I don't know anything about residential homes for women.   :hmm
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Post by: LoveExpresso on March 29, 2015, 01:35:36 pm
Sorry Val, as I am ina  rush (we are open today, Sunday shopping) I was using the wrong word, I see it now - no offence was meant of course - I was referring to you because of the details of British life , and what I meant was HOSTEL (maybe for young women especially) I see that I used a word that is connected with older ones. How could I ever come to the conclusion to remember YOU in that context? Sorry for any disaccord..

I will edit my original post..

Now I hope the meaning of my post gets clearer..

LE
 
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Post by: superval99 on March 29, 2015, 01:44:32 pm
Sorry Val, as I am ina  rush (we are open today, Sunday shopping) I was using the wrong word, I see it now - no offence was meant of course - I was referring to you because of the details of British life , and what I meant was HOSTEL (maybe for young women especially) I see that I used a word that is connected with older ones. How could I ever come to the conclusion to remember YOU in that context? Sorry for any disaccord..

I will edit my original post..

Now I hope the meaning of my post gets clearer..

LE

No worries, LE, I'm not offended at all!  I understand now what you meant, but I still can't help in that respect, sorry!    :wave
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Post by: surferboy on March 29, 2015, 01:51:53 pm
Thanks yontwocrows for bringing it up again.
The lost girl seems to be a second and separate theme besides the "resilient optimists"-theme.
Both themes seem only connected by happening in the same early London time frame.
The searching for her takes up most of the song's verses and is actually a contrast to the laughs and jokes idea of the chorus.
And that makes it interesting. The song does not tell little episodes and stories that would fit in with the chorus.
MK deliberately combined both themes.
I don't think it is the denial theme of Whoop de doo.
Maybe his idea could be the insight that it is part of a young life of laughs and jokes not to realize in time and not yet to be sensitized for deeper things that lie on the way, maybe in form of a certain relationship.
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Post by: yontwocrows on March 29, 2015, 02:05:34 pm
Yes, LE, that's and interesting approach. I didn't think at all of a sort of girl's home, but that might perfectly be. And also the the girl might be from earlier days, so the verses are perfectly linked together.

@surferboy: Beautiful thought, except that i think that the line "not that we ever cared" relates only to the fact of beeing broke. - This attitude of young ones: We don't care that we don't have any money.
But this reading does not diminuish the interesting contrast you are talking about and that i feel too, when listening to the song. The decision to search for the girl, is certainly a moment of caring, maybe also a moment of hesitation and doubt to follow the path as a musician.
At the end it is also something he sacrificed for making career/or fulfilling his dreams.

What does he mean with "Later on i picked up the ball / and i took off down the line"?

Because of all that i like the line "I suppose by then I'd realised you'd run into hard times". It is this moment of clarity in a young live when you know you laugh but things are not that easy how you suppose them to be. But it's also the clarity you need to stick to your path. It'is a small moment of self-reflection, and this is so beautiful described here.
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Post by: superval99 on March 29, 2015, 02:11:56 pm
At the end it is also something he sacrificed for making career/or fulfilling his dreams.

What does he mean with "Later on i picked up the ball / and i took off down the line"?

I think that means that he carried on with his life as usual and gave up the search for the girl.   MK uses that phrase "picking up the ball and running" quite a lot, even in interviews.    :)
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Post by: yontwocrows on March 29, 2015, 02:26:31 pm
Thanks, Val, your comment makes it a lot clearer to me. Do you think "picking up the ball and .... " can not only refer to the career but also to (serious) relationships. In the sense of: Later on i tried it more seriously with relationships?
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Post by: dustyvalentino on March 29, 2015, 06:32:13 pm
I guess we'll never know but my guess is that it was a training school for nurses where men didn't stay.
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Post by: Shai on March 29, 2015, 07:01:18 pm
I thought that it referred to a brothel. The old lady being the madam and the "two brunetts and a blonde".

Saul
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Post by: yontwocrows on March 29, 2015, 07:05:39 pm
I don't think so, because it says "It almost seemed like a knocking shop", which means that it isn't one.
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Post by: LoveExpresso on March 29, 2015, 07:12:57 pm
No Shai, exactly that's the point and that is the fun - this house seemed almost like a "knocking shop", because of this moment when the landlady and the other girls came out of their rooms to see who was there (with his leathercoat on).. I think these lines must be one of the funniest ones he has ever written. I love them. Could be from a movie, really great picture!

I guess MK is not there and was "searching" here - I think he decided to say OK, she wrote me this letter, now let's be polite and see her...

I remember pretty well times when schoolmates of mine started studying all over Germany and were only at home in our hometown three times a year, and you had to keep track of where everyone was living now - and I was in Hamburg and one day I met a girl from my schooltimes at the subway coincidentally, it was funny to see her there, had not know about the stations her life had taken until she turned up there.. So I guess London as the Big City was of course a place where many other people from the past might appear - I only think about the "childlike hand" because I think that is pretty precise and decided.. it gives the only detail about the lady.. could be a reference to school times and old schoolmates, female ones..

LE
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Post by: LoveExpresso on April 02, 2015, 11:08:03 am
It's the Don Grosh isn't it?

LE
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Post by: Silvertown on April 02, 2015, 11:10:41 am
It's the Don Grosh isn't it?

LE

Could be.
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Post by: dmg on April 02, 2015, 10:08:07 pm
It's the Don Grosh isn't it?

LE

Yes

This means it's the last song in the set then!
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Post by: Knopflerfan on April 06, 2015, 09:02:06 am
Reading into a comment on Guy's forum it looks odds on favourite to start the show I reckon.... :clap
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Post by: Marikablue on April 06, 2015, 12:08:00 pm
Reading into a comment on Guy's forum it looks odds on favourite to start the show I reckon.... :clap
Could be a nice opener. This song make me happy.  :)
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Post by: steinei on April 06, 2015, 12:22:47 pm
Me too.

I was just before the release of Tracker 3 days in Edinburgh with some friends.
As soon as I heard the chorus it reminded me directly of the time there.
The flair, the castles,the bars and whiskys...
 ;D ;D ;D

Laughs and Jokes is the perfect opener and Oklahoma ponies really the perfect closer...
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Post by: Rail King on April 17, 2015, 10:56:22 am
It just occured to how beatifully "no lights on the stairs" works as a metaphor: They're young and eager, and there's a steep climb in front of them, but where exactly they're heading they can't tell, it's all in the dark, with just a couple of enlightened moments every now and then.

Mark surely is as good with words as he is with chords and guitars.
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Post by: Knopflerfan on April 17, 2015, 08:10:08 pm
It just occured to how beatifully "no lights on the stairs" works as a metaphor: They're young and eager, and there's a steep climb in front of them, but where exactly they're heading they can't tell, it's all in the dark, with just a couple of enlightened moments every now and then.

Mark surely is as good with words as he is with chords and guitars.

As per the dvd explanation from the man himself the lights were controlled by a 'timer' which they would press but they only had a limited time to get up the stairs and into their room!!
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Post by: Justme on April 17, 2015, 09:48:10 pm
But it works as a metaphor, too. At least for me.  :hmm
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Post by: vgonis on April 18, 2015, 12:05:58 am
Have I told you that the intro and rhythm backbone through out reminded me of Take Five? Nice lyrics, nice build up but a bit repetitive.
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Post by: Lis on April 21, 2015, 03:50:59 am
It just occured to how beatifully "no lights on the stairs" works as a metaphor: They're young and eager, and there's a steep climb in front of them, but where exactly they're heading they can't tell, it's all in the dark, with just a couple of enlightened moments every now and then.

Mark surely is as good with words as he is with chords and guitars.
Yes!  Thanks Rail King -- it is a beautiful metaphor (and thanks Justme, for the right word here!).  There is so much richness and so many layers in MK's writing, that I think a lot often passes me by!  :think

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Post by: Lis on April 21, 2015, 04:02:44 am
Just wondering about something...

I completely expected that the subject of MK's LaJaDaS would be of early band days!  I was certain that we'd hear about him and his bandmates hanging out, and was quite surprised that he is reminiscing about LaJaDaS with a girl.  Anybody else surprised by this?


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Post by: dmg on April 21, 2015, 02:08:59 pm
Just wondering about something...

I completely expected that the subject of MK's LaJaDaS would be of early band days!  I was certain that we'd hear about him and his bandmates hanging out, and was quite surprised that he is reminiscing about LaJaDaS with a girl.  Anybody else surprised by this?

I was a little too.  It's a bit of a throwback to his earlier songs (ToL immediately springs to mind). 

It certainly means that the lyrics of these early songs are no longer an excuse for not playing them though.
Title: Re: (1) Laughs and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes (6:39)
Post by: Love Expresso on January 26, 2017, 09:27:21 am
Mark is rhyming "Park" and "Dark" in this one again. Just sayin'  ;D

LE
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Post by: holaknopfler on September 24, 2018, 08:21:52 am
Just listening to LAJADAS and remembering the first time I heard it, in March 2015. Do you know the overwhelming feeling when listening to a song that you didn't listen for quite a while? The feeling that a lot of things have changed in the last 3 years, the music that travels with you.. The memories. MK really is right about these milestones.
 
Hola
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Post by: jbaent on September 24, 2018, 08:51:40 am
Just listening to LAJADAS and remembering the first time I heard it, in March 2015. Do you know the overwhelming feeling when listening to a song that you didn't listen for quite a while? The feeling that a lot of things have changed in the last 3 years, the music that travels with you.. The memories. MK really is right about these milestones.
 
Hola

Still my favourite from that record. I continously put Tracker just to listen to this track and still makes me smile.