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Title: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: shangri la 1 on February 22, 2015, 01:37:42 AM
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Skydiver(Mark Knopfler)


LYRICS
   I’ve been banned from every racecourse in the country
There’s something about the unsure thing
Like scoring with a beauty of the county
It always makes the old bell ring

I like to go for broke and I’ll be randy
It’s got to be the unsure thing
In the Bentley Continental with the brandy
It always makes the old bell ring

And when it’s gone, all gone
I’ll stand on a hilltop and sing
I go where I want, I do what I want
And I don’t give a damn about a thing

Skydiver

Today I lost a packet at Wincanton
Dive Bomber in the 2.15
All on the nose and no-one counting
Nothing wishy-washy in between

Back when I made the pivotal decision
To take a winding road that I could see
It was just like being given an incredible permission
The rules don’t apply to me

And when it’s gone, all gone
I’ll stand on a hilltop and sing
I go where I want, I do what I want
And I don’t give a damn about a thing

Skydiver

I’m not being brave, it’s my money, not my life
When I need to take a break from the brushes and the knife
And I always took a fancy to the ones
Heading straight into the teeth of the guns

Skydiver


Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: border_reiver on March 12, 2015, 10:52:25 AM
I'm hearing Small Potatoes infused with The Beatles  ;D
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Post by: jbaent on March 12, 2015, 11:27:27 AM
I'm hearing Small Potatoes infused with The Beatles  ;D

Yes, Thank You!

I was thinking, this song sounds to another one but can't get which one...

That's it!
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 12, 2015, 11:37:08 AM
I thought more of Let's See You.

This is the track on Tracker that I like least. Already a skipper for me.

LE
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: jbaent on March 12, 2015, 11:38:32 AM
I thought more of Let's See You.

This is the track on Tracker that I like least. Already a skipper for me.

LE

I thought the same in my first listen, but it grows... now it's one of my favourites!
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: foma on March 12, 2015, 12:55:34 PM
To me Skydiver have a lot more in common with 'Better Together' by Jack Johnson rather than with 'Penny Lane' by The Beatles.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfoqELZWcp8
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: dmg on March 12, 2015, 01:12:44 PM
One of my favourites.  Such a groovy song and Ruth's vocal, although small, adds significantly to the song I think.  How many times do they sing Skydiver at the end though?  ::)
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: yontwocrows on March 12, 2015, 01:19:45 PM
Skyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyydiver: It's like the free fall of a skydiver and the sudden loop upwards.  ;D
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: foma on March 12, 2015, 02:17:32 PM
Just learned open riff for the song, it's awesome! Thinking about recording a video for this riff.
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Post by: foma on March 12, 2015, 04:18:20 PM
Skydiver chords are now added in my Tracker Songbook: http://amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=4152.msg90543#msg90543

One of the strangest MK's song on my recollection. Clearly Beatles influence even with cues in the lyrics. Winding road, in between, etc.

Even the chords looking like a sky towards the end of the song! LOL! Mark is a genius.
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: dmg on March 12, 2015, 04:24:05 PM
Just learned open riff for the song, it's awesome! Thinking about recording a video for this riff.

Do it!  I'd love to hear a vocal on this one;  how long can you hold on!!!
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Dutchessy on March 12, 2015, 04:36:35 PM
Just learned open riff for the song, it's awesome! Thinking about recording a video for this riff.

Do it!  I'd love to hear a vocal on this one;  how long can you hold on!!!

 :lol :lol :clap
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on March 12, 2015, 04:53:35 PM
Cool song! Love the chords and harmonies!
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: jabbathehut on March 12, 2015, 07:11:37 PM
Fun song love the way they sing sky diver sort of floats in the air.Has Mark ever mentioned about being a Beatles fan previously.Clearly an ode to them.
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: dannr1 on March 12, 2015, 10:52:11 PM
Easy-listening feel good song! Makes me happy :)
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Post by: Knopflerfan on March 17, 2015, 07:16:28 AM
Great Lyrics too....
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Post by: superval99 on March 17, 2015, 09:56:35 AM
Thank you, recon!    The lyrics of the song certainly seem to fit Lucien Freud pretty well.    ;)
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Post by: dmg on March 17, 2015, 12:17:20 PM
An immensely enjoyable song.  Mark's slide has a kind of funky, groovy sound that gives the song a great uplifting mood to it and speaking of mood, I think Ruth's vocal adds something nice to it too.
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: foma on March 17, 2015, 12:21:15 PM
An immensely enjoyable song.  Mark's slide has a kind of funky, groovy sound that gives the song a great uplifting mood to it and speaking of mood, I think Ruth's vocal adds something nice to it too.

I'd even say this slide in the intro summs up whole sound of the album and Mark's current music in general. I'd use that in comercial :lol
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Nick14 on March 17, 2015, 12:37:01 PM
This one is a wee gem - quite a different song for Mark but one he does well - that light and bouncy Beatles/Kinks melody - terrific lyrics, great chorus - great song. 
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: dmg on March 17, 2015, 12:39:20 PM
This one is a wee gem - quite a different song for Mark but one he does well - that light and bouncy Beatles/Kinks melody - terrific lyrics, great chorus - great song.

More Kinks.  I recall Mark saying in an interview he was "more Kinks than Beatles."
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: surferboy on March 17, 2015, 05:18:23 PM
Thank you, recon!    The lyrics of the song certainly seem to fit Lucien Freud pretty well.    ;)

Yes, recon, thanks indeed for this very interesting information
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 17, 2015, 09:46:28 PM
Thank you recon.
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: goldenheart96 on March 22, 2015, 09:34:38 PM
I like this song - but I don't think it will make it onto the setlist. Can't imagine MK is able to sing the "Skyyyyyydiver" part live.
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: foma on March 22, 2015, 09:41:31 PM
I like this song - but I don't think it will make it onto the setlist. Can't imagine MK is able to sing the "Skyyyyyydiver" part live.

http://coub.com/view/5gi7o

I think with some harmonies that one could sound fantastic live and settle good mood in the hall. A bit like 'Daddy's Gone To Knoxville' does.
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Post by: dmg on March 22, 2015, 11:05:31 PM
I like this song - but I don't think it will make it onto the setlist. Can't imagine MK is able to sing the "Skyyyyyydiver" part live.

Lol.  He could leave this part to Guy! 
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: jbaent on March 23, 2015, 09:07:09 AM
I like this song - but I don't think it will make it onto the setlist. Can't imagine MK is able to sing the "Skyyyyyydiver" part live.

Oh yes they can, because it´s a trick, there are three persons singing the skydiver and everyone starts one second after the other something like:

skyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyydiver
            skyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyydiver
                          skyyyyyyyydiver

That means that the first one (MK) can stop and join the other two just for "diver"

Easy  ;D
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: dmg on March 23, 2015, 11:53:20 AM
I like this song - but I don't think it will make it onto the setlist. Can't imagine MK is able to sing the "Skyyyyyydiver" part live.

Oh yes they can, because it´s a trick, there are three persons singing the skydiver and everyone starts one second after the other something like:

skyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyydiver
            skyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyydiver
                          skyyyyyyyydiver

That means that the first one (MK) can stop and join the other two just for "diver"

Easy  ;D

Didn't Mark say he overdubbed his own vocal in one of the videos?
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: jbaent on March 23, 2015, 01:04:42 PM
There are at least three voices singing it, one is Ruth for sure, maybe the other two are MK, I thought they were MK, Guy and Ruth, but live, it could work with MK starting, then Guy and Jim joining, and the three at once for ....diver

 :think
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: ingridswing on March 23, 2015, 01:30:00 PM
I also thought to recognize Guy's voice, but not sure, mixing can do a lot
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Maxx on March 23, 2015, 01:34:17 PM
There are at least three voices singing it, one is Ruth for sure, maybe the other two are MK, I thought they were MK, Guy and Ruth, but live, it could work with MK starting, then Guy and Jim joining, and the three at once for ....diver

 :think

I think MK will bail out on that one if they're about to do it live and only do the the "-diver", wouldn't he?  :)
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: jbaent on March 23, 2015, 01:34:45 PM
Probably when the third voice comes in, MK doubled himself, probably even Guy and Ruth, so we are hearing not three but six voices...
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Lis on March 24, 2015, 02:35:20 AM
 ;D If Mark wants to let loose a little, this one would be SO much fun live!!!  Heck, they can all join in!!!!
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Post by: Lis on March 24, 2015, 04:50:04 AM
This song is a total party waiting to happen on stage. 
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Post by: surferboy on March 24, 2015, 09:05:00 AM
This song is a total party waiting to happen on stage.
Exactly my thoughts.
And I so much hope for Oklahoma, too.
These songs would add a new kind of feel good atmosphere to the MK concert experience.
I don't miss Walk of Life, but I would love one or two more lighthearted songs in the set.
Yes, I admit it, I never really grew up.
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Post by: jbaent on March 24, 2015, 09:16:15 AM
Oklahoma is a bonus track that it´s not in the deluxe version but in the limited edition box, so it´s very unlikely...
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Rail King on March 24, 2015, 09:23:43 AM
Thank you, recon!    The lyrics of the song certainly seem to fit Lucien Freud pretty well.    ;)

Is it about Lucian Freud? Do we know for sure? Interesting.
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: surferboy on March 24, 2015, 09:46:41 AM
Yeah, recon presented a wonderful post with really perfect material:
A selfportrait of Freud skydiving, the story of a friend jumping out of a Bentley while Freud was driving, his beeing banned from the courses, his gambling passion, a pic of MK and Kitty in front of one of his paintings, but above all Freud's individual lifestyle as the reason why MK got interested to write a song about him: a person who lived his own life, so different from a normal 8 to 5 job life.

Such great research work and such a pitty recon seems to have gone...
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Rail King on March 24, 2015, 10:35:21 AM
Yeah, recon presented a wonderful post with really perfect material:
A selfportrait of Freud skydiving, the story of a friend jumping out of a Bentley while Freud was driving, his beeing banned from the courses, his gambling passion, a pic of MK and Kitty in front of one of his paintings, but above all Freud's individual lifestyle as the reason why MK got interested to write a song about him: a person who lived his own life, so different from a normal 8 to 5 job life.

Such great research work and such a pitty recon seems to have gone...

Wow, fantastic, thanks! I'll see if I can still find it. Some great research being done, here, I'm impressed!
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: wespresso on March 25, 2015, 03:14:35 PM
Yeah, recon presented a wonderful post with really perfect material:
A selfportrait of Freud skydiving, the story of a friend jumping out of a Bentley while Freud was driving, his beeing banned from the courses, his gambling passion, a pic of MK and Kitty in front of one of his paintings, but above all Freud's individual lifestyle as the reason why MK got interested to write a song about him: a person who lived his own life, so different from a normal 8 to 5 job life.

Such great research work and such a pitty recon seems to have gone...
Is the post gone? Because I am really curious
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Lestroid on March 25, 2015, 04:50:01 PM
Yeah, recon presented a wonderful post with really perfect material:
A selfportrait of Freud skydiving, the story of a friend jumping out of a Bentley while Freud was driving, his beeing banned from the courses, his gambling passion, a pic of MK and Kitty in front of one of his paintings, but above all Freud's individual lifestyle as the reason why MK got interested to write a song about him: a person who lived his own life, so different from a normal 8 to 5 job life.

Such great research work and such a pitty recon seems to have gone...
Is the post gone? Because I am really curious

I too am sad to see that his post has disappeared, but I found a couple of things he mentioned.  Here is the photo of MK and Kitty at the Tate Museum for an exhibit of Lucian Freud's work: http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/dire-straits-lead-singer-mark-knopfler-and-his-partner-at-news-photo/3197365

The obituary of Lucian Freud from the Telegraph mentions some of his eccentric behavior that seems to be reflected in MK's song.

"The divide mirrored that which Freud maintained in his social life. He moved easily and steadily between the two worlds, perhaps breakfasting at a workmen's café before driving his Bentley rapidly (if erratically) to Soho for a day's drinking and betting with Jeffrey Bernard or the photographer John Deakin. Freud was a notorious and reckless gambler, and in 1983 was warned off the Turf after reneging on debts to bookmakers of some £20,000."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/8657706/Lucian-Freud-OM.html
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Post by: superval99 on March 25, 2015, 05:01:09 PM
Skydiving picture:

http://giorgioselfievasari.tumblr.com/post/90928917519/lucian-freud-when-he-experienced-skydiving
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: yontwocrows on March 25, 2015, 05:13:14 PM
The link to Lucian Freud is interesting, but to be honest i've the feeling that i don't understand the meaning of the song.
Guy answered in his forum: "No way! The song has nothing to do with actual skydiving" and wasn't it mentioned in an interview by Mark that it has more to do with a dive bomber pilot who can lead a normal life? So, i simply can't put together these informations with the song lyrics, nor does the link with Freud is helping me. I did a little research but nothing really interesting or convincing popped up. What do you all think about the lyrics?
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Post by: Lestroid on March 25, 2015, 05:24:39 PM
I seem to recall that MK said in the Tracker Track by Track interview that Skydiver was based on a composite of artists.  Will have to go back and look at that again.  In the booklet with the CD, the picture with the lyrics for Skydiver is a closeup of an oil painting. Since all of the other songs have a picture that illustrates the song, that choice leads me to believe it is about an artist.   I suspect it might be a closeup of the painting at British Grove that is the cover of KTGC, because it is not mentioned in the credits.  There is however a credit to Guy and Henrick Hensen for photos taken at BG. 

As far as Guy's comment about a dive bomber, I don't see any connection there to the lyrics of the song.  Guy has been known to yank the chain of people on his forum, so he is not always a reliable source of information...
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Post by: superval99 on March 25, 2015, 05:36:33 PM
Lots of things in the lyrics lead to Lucien Freud.    The fact that he was an artist, hence the oil painting behind the lyric in the booklet and the lyric mentions brushes and a knife.  He was addicted to gambling and was barred from many racecourses.  The lyrics mention that he lost a lot of money at Wincanton, on a horse called "Dive Bomber" - nothing to do with dive-bombing!    He drove a Bentley, also mentioned in the lyric.  Also he was a skydiver and did a self-portrait.    I feel sure it's about Lucien Freud. Everything in the lyric points to it being about him.  :)
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: wespresso on March 25, 2015, 05:41:57 PM
Thanks for the links guys, Mark definitely wrote this song with Freud in his mind. But I've read an interview with Mark where he said that he is trying to get into the head of other people that aren't ordinary and not living the ordinary life. It's not only about musicians or other artists but also about gamblers who don't abide to the rules. (According to the interview.) About the dive bomber he said: Someone that throws bombs down and doesn't know about the damage he has done is also living outside the normal live.

So pretty interesting lyrics in my opinion..
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: yontwocrows on March 25, 2015, 05:46:26 PM
Thanks Wespresso that was the quote i was refering to.
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Post by: Lestroid on March 25, 2015, 05:56:50 PM
Thanks Wespresso, that makes sense too.  Of course the phrase "dropping bombs" can have a double meaning too.  Someone who says something that will cause a disturbance can be said to have "dropped a bomb in the conversation".  We know how much MK likes to incorporate multiple meanings into his songs!
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Post by: Rail King on March 25, 2015, 05:58:25 PM
Thanks for the links guys, Mark definitely wrote this song with Freud in his mind. But I've read an interview with Mark where he said that he is trying to get into the head of other people that aren't ordinary and not living the ordinary life. It's not only about musicians or other artists but also about gamblers who don't abide to the rules. (According to the interview.) About the dive bomber he said: Someone that throws bombs down and doesn't know about the damage he has done is also living outside the normal live.

So pretty interesting lyrics in my opinion..

May I ask where that dive bomber quote was from? If the song is referring to that, to, it surely would add to it's complexity. (Not that there's any need for more complexity, though, haha).
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Post by: wespresso on March 25, 2015, 06:00:57 PM
Thanks for the links guys, Mark definitely wrote this song with Freud in his mind. But I've read an interview with Mark where he said that he is trying to get into the head of other people that aren't ordinary and not living the ordinary life. It's not only about musicians or other artists but also about gamblers who don't abide to the rules. (According to the interview.) About the dive bomber he said: Someone that throws bombs down and doesn't know about the damage he has done is also living outside the normal live.

So pretty interesting lyrics in my opinion..

May I ask where that dive bomber quote was from? If the song is referring to that, to, it surely would add to it's complexity. (Not that there's any need for more complexity, though, haha).
Sure! It's from the Dutch Soundz magazine
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Rail King on March 25, 2015, 06:06:47 PM
Thanks! And what's "the unsure thing", by the way? I'm no native speaker, so I was wondering if that's a set phrase.

Also, I don't understand "down in the 2.15" but that's probably just because I don't bet on horses. :-)
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Post by: superval99 on March 25, 2015, 06:13:00 PM
Thanks! And what's "the unsure thing", by the way? I'm no native speaker, so I was wondering if that's a set phrase.

Also, I don't understand "down in the 2.15" but that's probably just because I don't bet on horses. :-)

"The unsure thing" relates to the gambling, because nothing is certain in gambling - that's why it's a gamble!   ;D

"Today I lost a packet at Wincanton, Dive Bomber in the 2.15"     This is again related to gambling at the races.   He put a lot of money on Dive Bomber, which ran in the race at 2.15.   "All on the nose"  means he put all the money he had on betting the horse to win - not both ways - all or nothing!  :)

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Post by: Rail King on March 25, 2015, 06:24:04 PM
Thanks! And what's "the unsure thing", by the way? I'm no native speaker, so I was wondering if that's a set phrase.

Also, I don't understand "down in the 2.15" but that's probably just because I don't bet on horses. :-)

"The unsure thing" relates to the gambling, because nothing is certain in gambling - that's why it's a gamble!   ;D

"Today I lost a packet at Wincanton, Dive Bomber in the 2.15"     This is again related to gambling at the races.   He put a lot of money on Dive Bomber, which ran in the race at 2.15.   "All on the nose"  means he put all the money he had on betting the horse to win - not both ways - all or nothing!  :)

Thanks so much, Superval! So 2.15 would be the time the horse ran? (Sorry, I'm REALLY ignorant when it comes to horse racing). I just read that Dutch interview, and there he mentions that military dive bombers have to drop their bombs at 2.15 km. He really seems to pack a lot here ...  :hmm
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Post by: superval99 on March 25, 2015, 06:30:02 PM
"All on the nose and no-one counting.      He had put all of his money betting on the horse coming in 1st place.     
 Nothing wishy-washy in between"            Only first place would do - hence nothing wishy-washy in between - not 2nd or 3rd

I really don't see it as being about military dive bombers, especially as the horse is actually called Dive Bomber.   ;)   But knowing MK....  :think

Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: yontwocrows on March 25, 2015, 06:38:54 PM
Yes, this interview in soundz magazine was so confusing for me, and is still now, as if we don't see a certain layer. Here is the whole quote:

Quote
The album also goes about freedom of the individual. The song 'Skydiver' is a good example of that.

'As an artist, on a certain moment, you make the choice to live outside the society, not conforming to that what all other people do. I try to get into the heads of other characters. I love individuals who go completely there own way. And I'm really not only talking about musicians or artists. Someone who drops his bombs down and doesn't know what kind of damage occurs beneath him, lives also outside the normal life. 'Dive Bomber In The 2.15' I sing. A fighterplane has to drop his bombs at 2.15 km to be accurate. But the song also is about gamblers, who don't follow the rules'.
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Post by: Rail King on March 25, 2015, 06:44:36 PM
Yes, this interview in soundz magazine was so confusing for me, and is still now, as if we don't see a certain layer. Here is the whole quote:

Quote
The album also goes about freedom of the individual. The song 'Skydiver' is a good example of that.

'As an artist, on a certain moment, you make the choice to live outside the society, not conforming to that what all other people do. I try to get into the heads of other characters. I love individuals who go completely there own way. And I'm really not only talking about musicians or artists. Someone who drops his bombs down and doesn't know what kind of damage occurs beneath him, lives also outside the normal life. 'Dive Bomber In The 2.15' I sing. A fighterplane has to drop his bombs at 2.15 km to be accurate. But the song also is about gamblers, who don't follow the rules'.

Does "2.15" work in a racing context? What's the number referring to exactly?

(And remember, we already struggled with 5.15, and now this ...  ;))
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: wespresso on March 25, 2015, 06:46:50 PM
Yes, this interview in soundz magazine was so confusing for me, and is still now, as if we don't see a certain layer. Here is the whole quote:

Quote
The album also goes about freedom of the individual. The song 'Skydiver' is a good example of that.

'As an artist, on a certain moment, you make the choice to live outside the society, not conforming to that what all other people do. I try to get into the heads of other characters. I love individuals who go completely there own way. And I'm really not only talking about musicians or artists. Someone who drops his bombs down and doesn't know what kind of damage occurs beneath him, lives also outside the normal life. 'Dive Bomber In The 2.15' I sing. A fighterplane has to drop his bombs at 2.15 km to be accurate. But the song also is about gamblers, who don't follow the rules'.
Yeah that thing about the dive bomber is pretty interesting. Perhaps he is just not telling the thing about Freud and comes up with a different approach to it  :P
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: superval99 on March 25, 2015, 06:48:50 PM
So the military dive bomber was used as another example!   I agree it is confusing, but that's MK for you!   :)
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: superval99 on March 25, 2015, 06:51:11 PM
Yes, this interview in soundz magazine was so confusing for me, and is still now, as if we don't see a certain layer. Here is the whole quote:

Quote
The album also goes about freedom of the individual. The song 'Skydiver' is a good example of that.

'As an artist, on a certain moment, you make the choice to live outside the society, not conforming to that what all other people do. I try to get into the heads of other characters. I love individuals who go completely there own way. And I'm really not only talking about musicians or artists. Someone who drops his bombs down and doesn't know what kind of damage occurs beneath him, lives also outside the normal life. 'Dive Bomber In The 2.15' I sing. A fighterplane has to drop his bombs at 2.15 km to be accurate. But the song also is about gamblers, who don't follow the rules'.

Does "2.15" work in a racing context? What's the number referring to exactly?

(And remember, we already struggled with 5.15, and now this ...  ;))

Yes, of course 2.15 works in a racing context - the horse, Dive Bomber, ran at 2.15pm.
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Rail King on March 25, 2015, 07:33:13 PM
Yes, this interview in soundz magazine was so confusing for me, and is still now, as if we don't see a certain layer. Here is the whole quote:

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The album also goes about freedom of the individual. The song 'Skydiver' is a good example of that.

'As an artist, on a certain moment, you make the choice to live outside the society, not conforming to that what all other people do. I try to get into the heads of other characters. I love individuals who go completely there own way. And I'm really not only talking about musicians or artists. Someone who drops his bombs down and doesn't know what kind of damage occurs beneath him, lives also outside the normal life. 'Dive Bomber In The 2.15' I sing. A fighterplane has to drop his bombs at 2.15 km to be accurate. But the song also is about gamblers, who don't follow the rules'.

Does "2.15" work in a racing context? What's the number referring to exactly?

(And remember, we already struggled with 5.15, and now this ...  ;))

Yes, of course 2.15 works in a racing context - the horse, Dive Bomber, ran at 2.15pm.

I see. Was confused because the lyrics are "in the 2.15", not "at".
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Simon on March 27, 2015, 03:56:01 PM
Secondary Waltz?
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Dutchessy on March 27, 2015, 04:40:24 PM
Secondary Waltz?

No, Skydiver  ;)
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Simon on March 27, 2015, 04:41:24 PM
It just reminded me of SW which is a great song in itself.  :)
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Dutchessy on March 27, 2015, 04:42:10 PM
It just reminded me of SW which is a great song in itself.  :)

I was just joking  ;)
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Simon on March 27, 2015, 04:43:11 PM
I know. :D
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: dmg on March 27, 2015, 06:51:25 PM
Can't recall if this has been said but the drum intro is remarkably similar to Cannibals live from the GH tour.  I can visualise Ianto having fun with this on stage à la Corned Beef last tour.  This may replace it in the set in fact.
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Knopflerfan on March 27, 2015, 07:57:28 PM
Good points there dmg.... :clap
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Stanko on May 03, 2015, 06:54:07 PM
Hi, I just want to share a thought came into my mind while I reading this...
It makes me think it is possible the last verses contain double meaning and saying here about Mark as "skydiver" :lol

"When I need to take a break from the "brushes and the knife" (think of a guitar hidden here - "six blade knife")
"And I always took a fancy to the ones heading straight into the teeth of the guns"
("took a fancy to" as to Lucian Freud from this song or as to others from many of his songs).

Regards 
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Justme on May 03, 2015, 07:26:13 PM
Hi, I just want to share a thought came into my mind while I reading this...
It makes me think it is possible the last verses contain double meaning and saying here about Mark as "skydiver" :lol

"When I need to take a break from the "brushes and the knife" (think of a guitar hidden here - "six blade knife")
"And I always took a fancy to the ones heading straight into the teeth of the guns"
("took a fancy to" as to Lucian Freud from this song or as to others from many of his songs).

Regards

Good point. I didn't think of that before, but it makes sense to me.
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: foma on May 07, 2015, 10:06:17 PM
LOL this song reminds to me Skydiver refrain a bit:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eUtNCl8lGQ
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: Stanko on January 16, 2018, 08:15:04 PM
Probably when the third voice comes in, MK doubled himself, probably even Guy and Ruth, so we are hearing not three but six voices...
what about crowd?  ;D
i.e., check Sevilla show after 28:40
https://youtu.be/2ZXNSX3V2zs
and it's perfect!
Title: Re: (4) Skydiver (4:38)
Post by: jbaent on January 16, 2018, 09:36:11 PM
In that moment a friend of mine said:

Look at that, and old man with his mouth wide open, is he asking us to throw m&m's at him?

I couldn't stop laughing...